Between 2006 and 2007, the Huntsville metropolitan area experienced the 50th fastest rate of growth in the United States and the most rapid expansion out of all Alabama metros.

During that year the population here jumped from 378,054 to 386,632, a 2.3 percent increase, according to a report released Thursday by the U.S. Census Bureau.

The Census report compared population shifts in the 363 major metropolitan areas in the United States. Based on percentage increases, Palm Coast, Fla., was the fastest growing metro area in the nation and Columbus, Ga., the most rapidly declining.

During that one-year span, the population of Decatur's MSA, which includes Lawrence and Morgan counties, also increased slightly, growing from 148,035 to 149,279.

Maybe I should point this one out... This is the second $1 Billion-plus development announced for the area in a little over a month.

Huntsville Times article (http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/1209114939310530.xml&coll=1)
Madison mayor unveils massive development
Friday, April 25, 2008
By WENDY REEVES
Times Staff Writer

Project to offer shopping, dining, lodging and more

MADISON - Groundbreaking is set to begin this summer on a billion-dollar development that will add 4 million square feet of shopping, dining, entertainment, residential, hotel and office space to the city.

During Thursday night's annual State of the City address, Mayor Sandy Kirkindall announced the major development with Wann Springs Development Group. It will be on 450 acres at the intersection of County Line Road and Interstate 565.

Kirkindall said the project is designed to meet the shopping, dining, medical and residential needs of the Madison community.

"This project will represent a more than 15 percent increase of the entire metro area office market, and a more than 8 percent expansion of the metro retail market," Kirkindall said.

The new lodging amenities will include a four-star hotel with meeting space, and new limited-service or extended-stay lodging, he said.

Kirkindall said the development has been in the works for about 18 months.

Wann Springs is a newly formed partnership including former executives of several nationally recognized development companies.

Alex Hardy, a partner with Wann Springs, said the revenue projections for the development will be available soon. Master planning, design, and engineering for the project is being conducted by the nationally ranked firm of Post, Buckley, Schuh & Jernigan, Inc.

Infrastructure expansion may also create a more direct route from the interior of the city to Huntsville International Airport.

He said a large water feature of approximately 20 acres will be at the center of the project, fed by a natural spring.

In addition, Kirkindall said the project will be pedestrian friendly - bordered on the east by walking and biking paths adjacent to Bradford Creek winding through the greenway being developed by the city.

See renderings of the project here (http://blog.al.com/breaking/2008/04/new_madison_project_to_offer_s.html)

Woah, now that is Huge, oh, I hear that the City Council might lift the high restriction on Downtown Huntsville, this maybe a change, we may see skyscrapers in Huntsville within our lifetimes :D...or not...

Woah, now that is Huge, oh, I hear that the City Council might lift the high restriction on Downtown Huntsville, this maybe a change, we may see skyscrapers in Huntsville within our lifetimes :D...or not...
Remember that restriction is just a small area of the defined downtown.
Tall buildings are allowed in plenty of areas, it just hasn't been explained where very well.
But true what you say, I expect the stupid restriction to be modified after May 22. There are possible projects out there, but the rise in prices and soft economy may keep them on the drawing boards for the time being.

If we do get skyscrapers, they probably won't be too tall, maybe between 300 to 500 feet tall.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen: http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=8391967 Gotta love my avatar. :D

Seems heat is no problem

http://www.waaytv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8391084
Kyle said developers have had several other hotel companies show interest, but they were keeping the offer exclusive to Hammons' group.

"We're not letting up a bit," Kyle said. "The fact that one hotel company seems to be pulling out of the mix, that's just I think part of doing business that happens."


How many years now has that worm been dangling in front of Greenville?

One too many. My fish can't catch a break. :cry:

Apple ready to open

http://www.apple.com/retail/bridgestreet/

http://lh4.ggpht.com/dclhacker/SDeM3vxWyvI/AAAAAAAAAbE/aHPxAZCy7Wg/SANY3818.JPG?imgmax=912
photo Alphaman

If we do get skyscrapers, they probably won't be too tall, maybe between 300 to 500 feet tall.


That wouldn't be too terribly bad. I'm sure most of the residents there would accept that. Wish you guys luck either way.

:lol: ;) Our Apple Store opened earlier today:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=454080&page=4

anything new going on there.

Wow, this Forum has REALLY gone dead..... lol

Oh my :eek2: http://www.sweetwateralabama.com

An end to the summer lull, maybe... The first building of the Constellation at Downtown Huntsville mixed-use development, a 6-story, 130-room SpringHill Suites hotel, will have a ground breaking ceremony on Wednesday, August 20th. Soon after that, a Residence Inn with similar characteristics to the SpringHill and a 160-unit apartment (or condo) high-rise will begin construction; hopefully by then, we'll hear about some of the retail/restaurant tenants lined up for the project, which is expected to open in 2011.

http://www.al.com/business/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/business/1218878168262030.xml&coll=1
New hotel's.

http://www.al.com/business/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/business/1219310117313700.xml&coll=1
Biscuts, and Blue's shuting down, Greenville has felt that same thing before so dont feel bad about losing a simple restaruant. (when a new restaurant open's and close's)

This thread used to be so active, no one even comes here anymore, I guess 2008 hasn't seen much development for Huntsville.

Just to make you feel better, two highrises were announced for downtown Greenville on Thursday. :D :lol:

G-man that's messed up but so so good. GO GREENVILLE. :lol:

Just to make you feel better, two highrises were announced for downtown Greenville on Thursday. :D :lol:

So!? You guys can't even get a real Apple Store! Sad.... :ohno:

Please stop trying to one-up Huntsville. With at least 4 high-rises in the pipeline, 2 $billion-plus developments breaking ground before the end of the year, and an estimated 40,000-60,000 people coming in the next few years, you're not convincing anyone here that Greenville's a better city. Sorry. :lol: Besides, even if you guys can beat us in developments, you still can't beat our dominance in education, income, job growth, population growth, etc....

So!? You guys can't even get a real Apple Store! Sad.... :ohno:

Please stop trying to one-up Huntsville. With at least 4 high-rises in the pipeline, 2 $billion-plus developments breaking ground before the end of the year, and an estimated 40,000-60,000 people coming in the next few years, you're not convincing anyone here that Greenville's a better city. Sorry. :lol:

Woah. Let me show you some real facts. Real Apple Store? Think before you speak: http://www.magnoliapark.com/ Apple, Cheesecake Factory, REI, Trader Joes, Z Gallerie, Smith and Hawken, etc. $2 billion? That's all? Our Verdae project alone is $1.5 billion. Four high rises? How do you guys plan on getting those built with the height restriction in place? ;) Our downtown has at least eight highrises proposed. I can place four of them in two developments alone. One is the gateway site and the other is the woolworth site. And no Greenville is not any better than Huntsville. I can agree with you on that. :D

Okay, good hunsville, but we have more high-rises planned than you guy's sorry (2 at the gateway site, 2 at washington square, pinncale on main, and some other's), greenville county grew by 10,000 in a bad economy, we have over $3 billion dollar's of development in a small area, also sorry because apple is coming in 2010 or 2011 so our's will be more modern than your's so I don't care if you guy's get one first, we propose lot's of new jobs in a bad economy, those 2 billion dollar development's aren't breaking ground this year and you know it, our metropoltian kill's huntsville in everything almost, so don't attack my city unless you know the fact's buddy. :lol:

Well, Huntsville has NASA. NOT fair. :bash: :cry: :rant:

MPTC cost 1 billion wow, I asked you the cost the other day and you said um $1, and that message above is not for you. Can you believe he tried to play our city when its two of us and one of him. But I do have to admit that bridge street development or whatever it's called is nice. We both shouldn't be fighting each other but Raleigh, Charlotte, and DUBAI. Also is does anybody think the samething but, Birmingham, and Huntsville aren't in the same state, bham feel's dark, while huntsville seem's very bright?

MPTC cost 1 billion wow, I asked you the cost the other day and you said um $1, and that message above is not for you. Can you believe he tried to play our city when its two of us and one of him. But I do have to admit that bridge street development or whatever it's called is nice. We both shouldn't be fighting each other but Raleigh, Charlotte, and DUBAI. Also is does anybody think the samething but, Birmingham, and Huntsville aren't in the same state, bham feel's dark, while huntsville seem's very bright?

Magnolia Park costs $100 million not $1 billion. :ohno: :poke:

Well, Huntsville has NASA. NOT fair. :bash: :cry: :rant:

He know's the same thing, that's what made huntsville boom, but we have I-85 which create's job's too. He need's to go to greenvilleonline and see how much stuff we propose. It some period's of time in greenville we propsed something everyday (it happend for a week or so this year, and 2006 or 2007 was a boom year for greenville)

He know's the same thing, that's what made huntsville boom, but we have I-85 which create's job's too. He need's to go to greenvilleonline and see how much stuff we propose. It some period's of time in greenville we propsed something everyday (it happend for a week or so this year, and 2006 or 2007 was a boom year for greenville)

Yeah, but it's NASA. :master: :bow: Oh and my uncle works at NASA in Florida. :D

Oh, I had to reread your post I thought you said 2 billion that's why I said a billion, I was thinking WTF.

I ALREADY KNOW YOUR UNCLE WORK'S FOR NASA YOU SAID IT 2 TIMES ALREADY. :lol:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/james527/wann_springs.jpg
http://www.trinityrcf.com/images/Conceptual%20Rendered%20Master%20Plan.jpg
http://www.trinityrcf.com/project_flash/documents/Sheet_7.pdf
http://www.trinityrcf.com/project_flash/documents/Sheet_8.pdf
http://www.trinityrcf.com/project_flash/documents/summary.pdf
http://www.trinityrcf.com/project_flash/documents/Huntsville%20MSA%20Economic%20Growth%202008.pdf

The last include's pretty intersting number's. GO HUNTSVILLE.
The billion dollar development in Madison. Named Waterstone
Exactly 1.6 billion dollar's the point in greenville seemed like it would have been a billion dollar development, I can see a movie theater. WOW, 111,000 new resident's by 2011

residential units (probably apartments/condos)
A town center (similar to Providence) with a combined 520,000 sq. ft. of ground-floor retail and upper-level lofts.
2 million sq. ft. of office space
Another 1 million sq. ft. of medical office space
A 936,000 sq. ft. retail center (excluding the town center space)
A 150-200 room hotel
An 18-acre lake along with 50 acres of greenspace

Hold on the point and waterstone would have been the same size. This is 4.4 million sq ft and the point would have been the same.

Pretty much the same thing as Verdae in Greenville. Has it started construction yet? :dunno:

I have no clue. Verdae really will cost more though because it will be over a long period of time, but Millenium Campus may cost way over $2.5 billion because it's big as h**l, also this will be on 420 acer's while Verdae is on 1,110 so there's will have better density. (See Hunstville im trying to talk good about you guy's even though we have development's that will kill any development :lol: )

Okay, good hunsville, but we have more high-rises planned than you guy's sorry (2 at the gateway site, 2 at washington square, pinncale on main, and some other's), greenville county grew by 10,000 in a bad economy, we have over $3 billion dollar's of development in a small area, also sorry because apple is coming in 2010 or 2011 so our's will be more modern than your's so I don't care if you guy's get one first, we propose lot's of new jobs in a bad economy, those 2 billion dollar development's aren't breaking ground this year and you know it, our metropoltian kill's huntsville in everything almost, so don't attack my city unless you know the fact's buddy. :lol:

Like I said, even if we don't beat you guys in terms of developments, I doubt Greenville could ever beat Huntsville's population growth, job growth, or education. And you just proved my point on education-- you sound like an desperate, angry 10-year old who failed grammar. People like you are the reason why I don't post on this forum anymore-- spamming other cities' threads with juvenile posts about how great your own city is. If I want to hear about how "great" Greenville is, I'll go read about it in the Greenville thread. If you don't have anything constructive to say about Huntsville, please, just shut up.

And I do know the facts, "buddy." I think I've read more than I'll ever need to know about Greenville.

Like I said, even if we don't beat you guys in terms of developments, I doubt Greenville could ever beat Huntsville's population growth, job growth, or education. And you just proved my point on education-- you sound like an desperate, angry 10-year old who failed grammar. People like you are the reason why I don't post on this forum anymore-- spamming other cities' threads with juvenile posts about how great your own city is. If I want to hear about how "great" Greenville is, I'll go read about it in the Greenville thread. If you don't have anything constructive to say about Huntsville, please, just shut up.

And I do know the facts, "buddy." I think I've read more than I'll ever need to know about Greenville.

Do you have any proof of the bolded part? :poke:

He better calm his stupit ass down. Okay greenville is growing first of all, we (at the time) have thousand's of job's coming in one area that will give us a entirely new. skyline, (cu-icar 20,000 new jobs, millenium campus lot's of new jobs, verdae 15,000 new job's, carolina first center over time will have thousand's of job's, a new hospital, and lot's more). You guy's can build as much tower's you want to, but if you can remeber peanut brain there is height limit in hunstville. So while you guy's start building a skyline we will be working on our 2nd, and if midtown build's up maybe we can try to have a small mid-rise skyline there. With all those new job's coming you know we are going to see lot's of new resident's. You guy's can get all the people you want, but we can expect to have a large population, and high-rise boom soon (that will be on Raleigh's level or even higher). Don't insult my grammar because your one of those people that would go to google if you don't knoe how to spell a word copy and paste it and make it seem like your smart, so don't ever do that in your pathetic life AGAIN. G-man you need to tell him about millenium campus with all those high-rises planned out there. Plus you should fell dumb im only 16, plus you are like 70, plus I was just playing around when I said buddy, but you can't take a joke just because your city can't compete with mine, and if greenville can't beat huntsville than im sorry everybody because I was trying to stop postin this cities name all over here but BALTIMORE, will pistol whip Hunstville a**. We have more people than your entire metropolitan, your little 10 level tower's (that aren't tower's because they have to be atleast 12 level's to be considered a tower) aren't anything compared to my city. So if you want to have a city war than come on im ready. And guess what to offend you im still going to laugh at your ass because you think you made everbody laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (g-man im a trip right)

Oh yeah just to tell you I spell know wrong on purpose to show you how you would spell it, dumby. (On the low low I like huntsville, that's why is spent my time posting all that stuff on that waterstone development)

Do you have any proof of the bolded part? :poke:

Do you have any proof that I'm wrong?

@Infoman-- You have no idea what you're talking about. I doubt you've ever been to Huntsville, or at least not long enough to have an educated opinion about the city. Like I said, if you don't have anything CONSTRUCTIVE to say, please, SHUT UP. Go back to your little Greenville thread and bash Huntsville there all you want so I won't have to look at your unreadable bullshit.

Our skyline is bigger than yours. :nocrook:

congratulations Huntsville.

http://www.al.com/business/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/business/122112458267340.xml&coll=1



Huntsville No. 5 on Best-Performing Cities Index

Thursday, September 11, 2008
From staff reports
Huntsville Times

City rises 11 spots; 'in very, very good position for future'

Huntsville moved up 11 spots to No. 5 in an annual ranking of the nation's best-performing cities.

The rebounding technology sector boosted several newcomers to the top 10 cities that are creating and sustaining jobs, according to the Milken Institute/Greenstreet Real Estate Partners 2008 Best-Performing Cities Index. Cities that depend heavily on export-intensive industries also ranked high on this year's index.

Huntsville is "in a very, very good position for future growth," said Skip Rimer, Milken Institute's director of programs and communications.

Besides Huntsville, the top 10 metros in descending order were: Provo-Orem, Utah; Raleigh-Cary, N.C.; Salt Lake City; Austin-Round Rock, Texas; Wilmington, N.C.; McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, Texas; Tacoma, Wash.; Olympia, Wash.; and Charleston-North Charleston, S.C.

Accountant Don Nalley, vice chair for economic development at the Huntsville/Madison County Chamber of Commerce, said it's exciting to see Huntsville's continued economic growth recognized nationally.

"All in our community that work so hard to improve the economy and in general the lives of our citizens should be thrilled" with the index, Nalley said in a prepared statement.

The index's entry on Huntsville states that its economy is among the most dependent nationally on high-tech industries, ranking seventh overall. This area is more than twice as tied to the sector as the nation overall, according to the report.

The index ranks U.S. metros based on their ability to create and sustain jobs. It includes both long-term (five years) and short-term (one year) measurements of employment and salary growth.

Milken's survey also uses four measurements of tech output growth.

congratulations Huntsville.

http://www.al.com/business/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/business/122112458267340.xml&coll=1



Huntsville No. 5 on Best-Performing Cities Index

Thursday, September 11, 2008
From staff reports
Huntsville Times

City rises 11 spots; 'in very, very good position for future'

Huntsville moved up 11 spots to No. 5 in an annual ranking of the nation's best-performing cities.

The rebounding technology sector boosted several newcomers to the top 10 cities that are creating and sustaining jobs, according to the Milken Institute/Greenstreet Real Estate Partners 2008 Best-Performing Cities Index. Cities that depend heavily on export-intensive industries also ranked high on this year's index.

Huntsville is "in a very, very good position for future growth," said Skip Rimer, Milken Institute's director of programs and communications.

Milken's survey also uses four measurements of tech output growth.

oh boy another worthless survey or list, in the words of Chris Farley
whoopty-freakin-doo!
Seriously it's great and all, and it's good to be on them but it's hard to see it translating into good quality developments especially downtown.
Our road system sucks and is mired in the 1960's, downtown can't seem to
breakout, and sprawl continues full speed. But hey it sounds impressive:banana:

Man this forum went dead.... I guess the owner didn't pay attention to it anymore, lol

It wont be dead for long, Ive caught wind of a huge corporate relocation and a 40+ storey tower for Huntsville.

^^ Are we talking downtown... because there is a height limit downtown and some bluehair is going to throw one heck of a hissy if your mess with her historic district.

He has to be kidding me... :lol:

You must be thinking of Mobile or Birmingham, hell, we can't even get a 21 story building off the ground, and everyone here in Huntsville knows what building I am talking about, lol

Hey guys, lets be truthful here, I don't want this forum to be shut down because of cursing, I mean, look on page 27, you will know what I mean, lets try to stay on our own yards, alot of poeple are starting to get mad, or already getting mad, which is why Jman or HSVTiger won't post anything anymore, but hey, we are only human, lol

No Im talking about Huntsville, that metro area is about to explode. Wouldnt be surprised if it doubled in population by 2025 with all the news that is about to come out this year. Economy be damned.

Thats true, I think Huntsville is gonna end up like another Nashville.

If you think that you are a dumbass.

Yeah, thats not going to happen.

Well if that happens, then Greenville end up ATLANTA...

(which it is supposedly will look like in 2030, with 400k new homes [not residents] and 44 million sq ft of new commercial)...

If you think that you are a dumbass.

This is what I mean, that kind of immature crap needs to stop....

And to be honest, I have lost interest about this website, half the stuff said on here is not true and this website is here for INTELIGENT conversations about city development....

Yeah, a lot of people make stuff up on here. Some guy was on here one day talking about a 70 storey tower for Huntsville, what ever happened to him?

Huntsville's population stands around 176,000.

And? You want a cookie?

Of course. Wouldn't that be great? I added the population comment because it shows where Huntsville stands at now. Also, the thread was so dead for a city filled with life and growth. So anyone if you have any information on news and growth in Huntsville, please post. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

welcome to the forum a&m. the huntsville forum got pretty annoying for a while because a forumer, i think he called himself timanator, was basically making up proposals that were ridiculous, 40 story twin towers in huntsville, etc. But it seems like he's lost interest so hopefully it will get better

post all the news you can and hopefully some will join you. i carried the lexington thread by myself for several months but it grew slowly and steadily, now there are about 100 "views" per day.

Currently, there are no skyscrapers proposed for Huntsville. Huntsville is building several subdivisions, apartment complexes, and shopping centers. There are no skyscrapers proposed as of yet.

Okay, I admit... I was spreading lies about 40 storey building, but, who cares really, they are just structures, the real economy in huntsville is in Nasa and Restone, and a few high-tech industries that are based here... this city is growing, and besides, that 40 storey building proposal I made up was almost 3 years ago... Boy was I an arrogant fool then, but it is all in the past now, and I do apologize, it would be only fair of me to stay out of this city's affairs from now on...

Do you guys have any info on the following:

Waterstone
Sweetwater
The Peaks at Southchase
Constellation
Harris Hill

*IF SO, PLEASE POST SOME NEW INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I guess no one has any info, right?

Are those developments?

Yes, they are proposed mega shopping centers.

NOTE:

I've unstickied the few development threads that have been quiet for over a year. If you would like to update this thread regularly and see it re-stickied, please pm me! Thank you. :)

desertpunk