Taken from Tridents brochure:

Luxurious 2-Bedroom condominiums boast a Built-in Home Theater System with a 42inch Plasma screen , 3G super-wired Smart Home, Digital Keyless Transponder System for additional convenience and security, a large Living/Dining area with a spacious Terrace that offers an impressive view of the Marina, en-suite Bath and Built-in closet in both Bedrooms plus a Terrace access from the Master’s Bedroom, a designer Kitchen with Granite counter-top and a Breakfast Bar fitted with a Fridge, Cooking range, Hood and Microwave, a Separate powder room for guests, an assigned 75 sq. ft. basement storage [included] and Covered private parking.
Look at the floor plan. The second bedroom has a double bed and an office.

Now look at the photo of the 2nd bedroom and tell me its not misleading.

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Also 2nd bedroom has no wardrobes as per floor plan.

The second bedroom looks more like the maids room. Honestly don't mean to wind any owner up in TGR but the actual tiles and some of the fixtures and fittings look good in comparison to a lot of other developments. The main problem looks to be the way they have been implemented/used and a severe lack of judgement with spaces. I'd be very happy with the tiles you have in comparison to what's been used in some of the Select developments and branded luxury

Amazing view from that window though....... ....and with a room that size you're never far from the window.

See, every cloud has a silver lining. :cheers:

Strange layout, 1 bedroom + study + maids rooms. Would be better to have 2 real bedrooms.

Even select managed to deliver 2 proper bedrooms with wardrobes etc.

Reminder of original 2005 prices for Trident Grand Residence.

1 BDR - 1270 sq ft (AED 1.2- 1.5 million)
2 BDR - 1620 sq ft (AED 1.6- 1.7 million)
3 BDR - 2000 sq ft (AED 2.0- 2.4 million)

The things is that we had a similar problem with our floor plan varying, in that the room was much smaller. However, the developers had also added an extra room somewhere else, and so we were more than happy with their 'idea' or 'mistake'. In addition we had an extra balcony that we weren't expecting.

I'm no expert but I guess there are winners and losers in every building. I mentioned in my earlier post that the bathrooms were definitely pretty poor. They do seem to have functional problems like you can see if the photos (thanks for those Paul).

The likelihood of THI doing much about such problems is probably quite remote. Personally I'm not a fan of bidets, and so I'll probably just whip mine out as they more often than not end up as dumps for magazines etc! :-)

I can't see where the 1600ft2 comes from looking at that layout. My Dorrabay 2 bed has much bigger rooms and is only 1382ft2. Possibly the TGR apartment has more balcony space. The main bedroom in Dorrabay is 8m x 3.4m increasing to 4m in the bay window. Bedroom 2 is 3m x 4.2m with built in wardrobes. Here are a couple of pics which lets you see the size of bed 2 for comparison. Note that the marble floor also does not come into the bedroom but I only paid less than 700/ft so not complaining:)

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257 sq ft. It's only 6 feet wide, therefore it's obviously 43 feet long, which you can't see from the photo taken right at the far end. What's the problem? :lol:

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257 sq ft. It's only 6 feet wide, therefore it's obviously 43 feet long, which you can't see from the photo taken right at the far end. What's the problem? :lol:

What's the problem?!! The problem here is miss representation by Trident. The actual drawing has shown enough width in the bedroom to put a double bed in.. With only 6 ft wide this is impossible.. 257 sq/ft might be sufficient area for second bedroom but like toliets and everything else in TGR it is diabolical design..

If you havent seen it already, have a look the original website promoting TGR..telling lieas, etc... http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/home.htm

TIH guys are crooks and all the owners should get together and hire the best lawyers in town and take legal action..

Amazing view from that window though....... ....and with a room that size you're never far from the window.

See, every cloud has a silver lining. :cheers:

You sound like TIH employee!!!!

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This example of the small bedroom is a real nightmare. I'm taking GEP to court at the moment as they made an apartment I bought 10% bigger and there is a precedent that anything over 3% can't be charged for, something like this anyway.

The above example is going to be a difficult one to prove because you are talking about a specific room and missing wardrobe, and I just can't see that dealing with this in court is going to be that easy, especially given that the courts are busy enough as it is. This could take a few years to get sorted this way.

You are right though, the bedroom is completely unacceptable really. If there are enough units with the similar problem you could probably put on enough collective pressure to get a final payment discount. Just an idea?

This example of the small bedroom is a real nightmare. I'm taking GEP to court at the moment as they made an apartment I bought 10% bigger and there is a precedent that anything over 3% can't be charged for, something like this anyway.

The above example is going to be a difficult one to prove because you are talking about a specific room and missing wardrobe, and I just can't see that dealing with this in court is going to be that easy, especially given that the courts are busy enough as it is. This could take a few years to get sorted this way.

You are right though, the bedroom is completely unacceptable really. If there are enough units with the similar problem you could probably put on enough collective pressure to get a final payment discount. Just an idea?

Can anything be done about the shit quality? They did sell this as luxurious condos, surely this is misrepresentaion.

This example of the small bedroom is a real nightmare. I'm taking GEP to court at the moment as they made an apartment I bought 10% bigger and there is a precedent that anything over 3% can't be charged for, something like this anyway.

This is a ridiculous situation Paul I do feel sorry for you. You couldn't make it up !! How can you sign a contract then the developer some years later try and increase the purchase price, only in Dubai could this happen ?? It's a disgrace, any sense of business ethics just do not exist in the minds of some developers. :ohno:

What's the problem?!! The problem here is miss representation by Trident. The actual drawing has shown enough width in the bedroom to put a double bed in.. With only 6 ft wide this is impossible.. 257 sq/ft might be sufficient area for second bedroom but like toliets and everything else in TGR it is diabolical design..

If you havent seen it already, have a look the original website promoting TGR..telling lieas, etc... http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/home.htm

TIH guys are crooks and all the owners should get together and hire the best lawyers in town and take legal action..

Phew I was lucky to get my money back! The world has changed so much:ohno:

We received an email from TGR a few weeks ago, which said they were just waiting for the completion certificate and handover should be before the end of August. This unfortunately hasn't happened again!!
Just wondering if anybody has any more information. Would really appreciate any photos as well.

Date: September 9th, 2010.

Trident called to inform me that they have recieved the "Letter of Habitation" from the Government and that after this Eid weekend they will show all buyers this letter/certificate for handover.

They say handover should be in the 2nd/3rd week of September. End of Sept early Oct is more likely.

As an owner I have been in the development twice, more recently in July 2010
Update is as follows:
- The outside pool and bar area was almost finished, I didnt look at the squash courts. Decent view of the sea
- At that time the reception area was unfinished but work was ongoing and it certianly looked like it would be finished in 2 months.
- One lift was operational at the time, we did not see the Gym areas etc. Communal areas outside the lifts and apartment were finished and covered with plastic
- I snagged the apartment in April this year. The white goods in the kitchen are decent (Bosch if I remember correctly) and all installed. Aircon systems were installed and touchscreen and plasma were not, but the cables were there for them. There were problems such as hairline cracks in sinks, marks etc. I went back in July and nothing had been done as far as correcting the snagging list (Which was quite extensive). As far as I can see the contractors have stopped work, however from the outside the development does look finished, aside from cleaning. Whether the gyms, skylounge, indoor/outdoor pool, squash courts and other items will be fixed remains to be seen.

I know we are all bitter about a number of issues from:
- Just over 2 year delay
- Refusal to pay interest on our capital as they claimed "Forse Majeure"
- Trident trying to get us to pay upwards of 50,000AED on average for DEWA connection fees
- Other concerns with Plasma screens, sizes of bathrooms not to plan etc..

However, lets all stay calm and get together, strenght in numbers and all that. Trident need money, lets all meet up, discuss and agree a strategy, then contact Trident to make them a "Handover offer" which makes all parties happy and means all us owners can either live in or rent our apartments and start making our investment work for us!

We have a significant advantage here, we all have the remaining 30% on our apartments to pay and Trident need this cash. However no one will understandably pay till the snagging is done, but we are in a catch 22, so lets use it to our advantage.

Perhaps we could offer the final payment in return for them dropping the DEWA connection charges? And/Or perhaps in them agreeing for our "Association" to manage the property directly after handover. Either way, lets stop slagging each other off and get organised. This is the only way if we all want to get our apartments whilst also getting even in some way with a developer who has no idea about Investor Relations.

SO..........ALL OWNERS SEND AN EMAIL TO:

tgr.owners@gmail.com and tgr.residents@gmail.com

Lets form ONE association together and ALL meet in the next few weeks BEFORE handover to discuss concerns. Clear your calendars....we all know it will be worth it.

Thanks

TGR Owner

So what's the word on the street? I haven't heard anything from Trident for months and months, since March when they tried to get the final 30% plus this ridiculous connection charge, when the building was clearing not ready. Silence since then. Are the rumours true that there is no indoor pool after all?
Would appreciate to hear any news.
Thanks

So what's the word on the street? I haven't heard anything from Trident for months and months, since March when they tried to get the final 30% plus this ridiculous connection charge, when the building was clearing not ready. Silence since then. Are the rumours true that there is no indoor pool after all?
Would appreciate to hear any news.
Thanks

They told me that there will be an indoor pool but it will be operated by another company so we will be charged to use it!

Finally received confirmation of handover.Any advice on the Services Connection Charges ?

Also i received handover notice from Trident.
They inform that they got Occupation Certificate from Municipality and building ready for posession.

But big question about Connection Fees - it's 55000+ Dh. They didn't send RERA aprooval for connection fees. Last time i spoke in RERA about it in june and Mr. Khaled told me that they will not aproove so big connection fee. He said that we shouldn't pay it, that it must be expense of developer.
Let's unite and find solutions.

Regarding this connection charge, does anyone know who we should speak to at RERA? If they are the regulatory authority, surely they can tell us straight away whether or not they have approved this charge. They must be able to inform us whether we have to pay it or not. If it is as irregular as everyone seems to suggest, and hasn't been approved then no one should pay.

Here we need owner association to clear this points.
As i remember association exist and they had meeting in RERA in april.
So please, owner association activists - show up! We need you!

Dear all,

An OWNERS COMMITTEE has been formed for TRIDENT GRAND RESIDENCE Owners.

If you want updates on the impending Handover and information on what action has been taken regarding the Connection Charge, Handover Documentation, Snagging complaints, Communal Areas and Final 30% instalment then you MUST join the OWNERS COMMITTEE. We will NOT post information on a public forum.

Please send the following details:

FULL NAME:
APARTMENT NUMBER:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:
TEL: (Optional)
ANY COMMENTS/CONCERNS: (If Applicable)

To tgr.residents@gmail.com

You have to send your info to be on the OWNERS COMITTEE e-mail updates and to be informed on any discussions and advice.

For your information there is also an Owners Association for Marinascape and we will be working in conjunction with them after handover of TGR. We are sending out mails in the coming days regarding the TGR Handover and potential issues. So get involved and join the OWNERS COMMITTEE. (This is run by TGR Apartment Owners ). There are around 20 owners registered to date and we are making headway.

Thanks

ok

Has anybody completed the handover process as yet?
We would appreciate confirmation (independant of Trident!) - that the building is ready for handover. Also could anybody recommend a company to carry out snagging on our behalf.

I use these guys for all the work on my apartments when I am away from Dubai. They have done a good job for me so far:

PROTENANCE

Rabih El Kurdi
Operation Manager

Tel: 04 2848860
Fax: 04 2848870
P.O.Box 94990 Dubai UAE
Mob: 971 55 2883882
info@protenance.com

Has anybody completed the handover process as yet?
We would appreciate confirmation (independant of Trident!) - that the building is ready for handover. Also could anybody recommend a company to carry out snagging on our behalf.

Has anyone done the handover yet ? Any pictures ?
Any info on the snagging lists ?

Can anyone point me in the right direction,i need some images of the touristy stuff in Dubai , they have to be the best quality im willing to pay the right price for the right pictures, needs pictures of burg al arab, burg khalifa, the malls, water parks, sand dunes with the buggys , ski dubai etc etc, thanks in advance,........

You have a sign! :applause:

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DONE.

You have a sign! :applause:

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Its a shame that the only thing grand about it is the name...

We will NOT post information on a public forum.

Erm... Why?

Anyone have any feedback on handover ?

DONE!

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Erm... Why?

some of luxury promises has been suddenly disappeared !

for example this one

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Anyone got any pics of the inside ?

Anyone got any pics of the inside ?

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MODS PLEASE MOVE TO COMPLETED THREAD

Hi All,

Looking for a full sea view 3 bed apartment here direct from the landlord for rent. Please Private message me to discuss.

Thanks,

Thats an amazing penthouse , maybe the best in Dubai what I have ever seen!

8000 sqft, 3 levels, pool, inside lift etc...

04/February/2011

From my friend penthouse, Trident Grand Residence

what a view:)

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04/February/2011

Penthouse, Trident Grand Residence

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I will post the link of the album tonight.

Trident Grand Residence penthouse interior photos and the view

Dubai Marina

04/February/2011

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Link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157625850953189/

Trident Grand Residence

Palm Jumeirah and Marina view from the penthouse

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....materials are nothing special, considering the original sales price ......but views are good, of course, from the 40th floor.

Expected much better (check the initial promos) in terms of quality, but using chinese constructors with 2nd quality materials..........

Tks Imre and welcome back.

Nowhere near the original glossy promotional video from Trident... This is all crap and Trident is nothing less than a bunch of crooks... God help people who allready put hundreds of thousands into Pentaminium....

Bathroom is truly awful, wouldn't look out of place at DG!

Imre,
firstly welcome back

and secondly just for information how much for the awesome flat you updated on flickr?

Imre,
firstly welcome back

and secondly just for information how much for the awesome flat you updated on flickr?

Thanks:)

Starting price is 13.5 million dhs, negotiable ,the owner is waiting for the offers.

Let him wait...

OMG, thats truly awful.....

Just look at that kitchen with the white washing machine that does'nt fit. It looks as if they ran out of cherry wood then fitted the rest with the left over pine wood. Trident you should be prosecuted for this, you are the masters of misrepresentation....where does the word luxury come into this...:bash:

^^OMG, thats truly awful.....

Just look at that kitchen with the white washing machine that does'nt fit. It looks as if they ran out of cherry wood then fitted the rest with the left over pine wood. Trident you should be prosecuted for this, you are the masters of misrepresentation....where does the word luxury come into this...:bash:

:ohno:incredible.....what they are allowed to do here in Dubai.....want to see the Pentonimum, if ever they will finish it, remember the Ferretti yachts available for the owners? Probably will find some 3ft fisher boat...

exactly :D

OMG, thats truly awful.....

Just look at that kitchen with the white washing machine that does'nt fit. It looks as if they ran out of cherry wood then fitted the rest with the left over pine wood. Trident you should be prosecuted for this, you are the masters of misrepresentation....where does the word luxury come into this...:bash:

I have to agree, for the money that was paid for this apartment it is poor. First thing i noticed was the washing machine was the same model fitted in my 795k 1 bed unit then I though, where have you ever seen a washing machine on display in a multi £million apartment? For the space that is available, there should be a seperate maids quarters with the washer and seperate dryer located there. We call them utility rooms in the UK. Kitchen should be at least 2 grades up with gadgets galore.

Sanitryware looks low grade with overbath shower, I bet it isn't even a soft close seat. Powdercoated steel handrail on the stairs, real imagination:ohno: Oh dear!

OMG, thats truly awful.....

Just look at that kitchen with the white washing machine that does'nt fit. It looks as if they ran out of cherry wood then fitted the rest with the left over pine wood. Trident you should be prosecuted for this, you are the masters of misrepresentation....where does the word luxury come into this...:bash:

If the owner keeps this apartment , everything will be changed there, already has a plan of the new interior design, it would be amazing..

View from the TGR

19/February/2011

Dubai Marina

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I have a family member living in the building and would like to sublet for a short term an apt the Trident Grand. anyone interested in subletting in the building? Many thanks. Please send me private message. Best regards.

was in TGR a week ago - wanted to buy 06 unit (according to my info shall be the best one from 2BR units) - was badly surprised by the layout - extremely small BRs, very few build -in wardrobes, so very nice building but the apartment itself is not for living. Such a shame as the building itself is absolutely great and location - superb. Maybe there are better units there?

So you did'nt like this one.

hi to all,
somebody rent 1 bedroom???

TGR was my favorite tower in Dubai, the location and what i believed will be a high quality finish, I am glad that I sold my unit last year, but good luck for the rest of you who invested here.

Hi, I couldn't get whether its sarcasm or regret, do you or don't you still favor this tower? Considering in investing and you got me confused.

BR

Trident Grand Residence penthouse video,TGR,Dubai Marina

Dubai, United Arab Emirates

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What's the situation with title deeds? Has anyone gone ahead and paid for them? Has anyone got the deeds in their hand?

Unfulfilled promises is just one among many violations alleged by residents of Trident Grand Residence against the developer

By Sharmila Dhal, Senior Reporter | Published: 00:00 February 23, 2012

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Image Credit: © XPRESS / Zarina Fernandes

Dubai Homeowners of an upscale 45-storey residential tower in Dubai Marina are planning legal action against the developer, alleging a series of violations, including unfulfilled promises, mis-sale, misappropriation of funds and non-payment of bills to multiple service providers.

From the first-ever indoor golf simulator, indoor pool and spa facilities to keyless security and smart home systems, developer Trident International Holdings (TIH) had promised ‘untamed luxury' to residents of the premium Trident Grand Residence which has 255 one-, two-, three- and four-bedroom apartments, besides penthouses. But homeowners allege many of these facilities have not seen the light of day.


http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/general/homeowners-of-45-storey-tower-to-move-court-1.985010

I cant see the point of taking them to Court, theres no money honey, end of story.

Al.

The court action could be taken by owners who refused to take handover of their apartments due to the miss selling, undersizing and illegal utility connection charges. If a court finds in their favour, they could offset the award aginst any money due to Trident. Basically they would be arresting their own payment and awarding it to themselves as compensation.

Are Trident still present in Dubai or have they shut up shop?

Well who knows, according to the one person who still seems to be representing them, the are re-structuring, and RERA Believes her, and that they will return one day, not much hope of that, apart from the fact that they owe everyone, Banks, Builders, Investors, Contractors, the list is endless from Waterfront to the Pandmonium, and I mean everyone, know one owes them, it was always a one Way Street, going there way.

I cant broadcast on a public forum, of Overseas Accounts, and well connected people.


Al.