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Dubai-Lover
June 11th, 2005, 11:28 AM
Name: Trident Grand Residence
Floors: 45
Height: ?
Use: Residential

http://www.dubai-city.de/immobilien_realestate/marina_scape_4.jpg

Dubai-Lover
June 11th, 2005, 11:28 AM
Trident set to construct fourth tower at Marina


Parsons will support Trident in the project management of its waterfront developments at Dubai Marina.
UAE-based real estate developer Trident International Holdings is close to announcing plans for a fourth luxury residential tower at Dubai Marina.

The company this week also cemented its strategic alliance with consultant Parsons Brinckerhoff for project management services.

Sources close to the company said that plans had been developed for a fourth residential development that could soon be announced.

The company is already developing three luxury residential projects at Dubai Marina in the form of the Waterfront, Marinascape and the 22-storey Bayside residence — its latest project on the site, which sold out within days of its launch.

Now the developer has entered into a strategic alliance with Parsons Brinckerhoff to project manage all of the company’s waterfront developments at Dubai Marina.

Under the deal, Parsons Brinckerhoff will operate from Trident’s office and will support Trident in the project management of its waterfront developments at Dubai Marina.

Parsons Brinckerhoff country manager, Amer Khan, said: “It is something we have done before. When we get involved in project management assignments, it does allow greater interaction, especially when you have an integrated team.”
“Our association with the company will further diversify and add value to our consultancy portfolio in the region.”

Parsons will also lead Trident’s in-house project team.
Trident chief executive, Wazir Ali Daredia, said: “We are confident that Parsons Brinckerhoff’s rich global expertise in project planning and management, coupled with Trident’s innovative concepts, will help create a superior value offering for our clients.”

Located on the edge of the man-made marina, which serves as the nucleus of the Dubai Marina community, Trident’s developments will comprise of condominiums, penthouses and villa complexes.

Parsons Brinckerhoff is also currently involved in providing project management services to Nakheel on its Palm Jumeirah project in Dubai.

Dubai-Lover
June 11th, 2005, 11:29 AM
do you remember when i posted the render from post#1 in the marinascape thread a few weeks ago

well, today this article has been released and it can only be this tower

looks like another 200m+ :D

SA BOY
June 11th, 2005, 11:48 AM
good location and will have decent views as there is not much in front of it as JBR is to the side.There is however a DCP plant at its base, not an ideal neighbour

SA BOY
June 11th, 2005, 11:51 AM
I also read somewhere that its 45F

Dubai-Lover
June 11th, 2005, 12:02 PM
i think the plant will be removed some time in the future

45 floors seems ok, not more than 50

Citystyle
June 11th, 2005, 05:34 PM
do you remember when i posted the render from post#1 in the marinascape thread a few weeks ago

well, today this article has been released and it can only be this tower

looks like another 200m+ :D

Around 230m including spire. 45F in dubia with a spire usually equals 240 meters.

dubaiflo
June 11th, 2005, 06:00 PM
less than 230 i think.
but that is a good location indeed...!

Dubai-Lover
July 30th, 2005, 09:28 AM
it has been launched what we assumed to be marinascape 4 earlier

there is a giant ad in gulf news today and it's called trident grand residence

Dubai-Lover
July 30th, 2005, 09:31 AM
render
http://tinypic.com/9lgwb9.jpg

location
http://tinypic.com/9lgwg9.jpg

ad
http://tinypic.com/9lgwlv.jpg

Dubai-Lover
July 30th, 2005, 09:33 AM
and added to emporis

Dubai-Lover
July 30th, 2005, 09:42 AM
wow
website is already up
http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com

DUBAI
July 30th, 2005, 10:16 AM
There have been teaser ads in the gulf news every day last week.

aparently tiger [woods] is welcome, Maria [im guessing sharapova], as well as jew theives??? [some sort of thing about it being realy secure]

Dubai_Steve
July 30th, 2005, 05:53 PM
This one has a cigar lounge :)

dubaiflo
July 30th, 2005, 09:21 PM
we knew about it.
trident told me it is supposed to be launched end of july. very accurate guys ;)

once again this is one of the best developments in dubai marina, location , floor plans, everything is great.
trident is really a good developer ;)
proud owner of MS apts :D

Dubai-Lover
July 30th, 2005, 09:28 PM
no doubt
trident has convinced me

they have great architects, great interior designers, locations for 3 of 4 projects are awesome
floorplans are amazing

one of the best developer, if not the best!

Krazy
July 30th, 2005, 11:26 PM
huge add for this one on szr opposite chelsea tower.

AltinD
July 30th, 2005, 11:37 PM
From the website:

http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/UploadFiles/images/IMA00008_tgr%20bldg_M.jpg http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/UploadFiles/images/IMA00008_location_M.jpg

dubaiflo
July 30th, 2005, 11:42 PM
this one has awesome palm views.
there is the marinascape at the bottom :)

i like how they created green areas ;)

Dubai_Steve
July 31st, 2005, 12:11 AM
Great video on the website.

Very tempted to buy here. What view is best, sea or marina?

Dubai_Steve
July 31st, 2005, 12:14 AM
How does the smart home tech work. If I was to rent it out wouldnt the tennant worry that I can switch the lights on or off from a website. Some of the homes have video cams not sure that Id like to rent an apartment with a cam in it - the owner may be spying!

Dubai_Steve
July 31st, 2005, 12:16 AM
http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/UploadFiles/images/IMA00007_THE_SAN2_M.jpg

What room is this? nice interior !

AltinD
July 31st, 2005, 12:22 AM
Great video on the website.

Very tempted to buy here. What view is best, sea or marina?

Sea of course. At the back will be that 4 towers EMAAR project Park something.

malec
July 31st, 2005, 12:23 AM
Damn that looks expensive :eek:

Anyways, it looks like someone went crazy with the green paint in those renders, again!! (can't remember where I saw a render like that, it might have been najd tower or something)

AltinD
July 31st, 2005, 12:24 AM
^ Princess (Al Ameera) Tower.

dubaiflo
July 31st, 2005, 12:25 AM
sea of course. park island in the back.

the interior looks great in all trident towers.
smart home features : just look at www.marinascape.com

Trances
July 31st, 2005, 06:25 AM
NAME: Trident Grand Residence
PLOT: ??

AREA: DUBAI MARINA
HEIGHT: 45F, ??METERS
USE: Res, 253 condominiums and penthouses
START: 4th Q. 2005
END: early 2008

Details:
- Trident International Holdings 4th Tower
- Will have Gym with Yoga Alcove on the 40th floor. Also Cigar Lounge and serviced Sky Lounge.
- At Base tennis court, Outdoor pool, squash courts and indoor putting Golf.
- Full fledged business center and Banquet hall

Trances
July 31st, 2005, 06:27 AM
GUF NEWS
Trident International Holdings launches their latest super luxury living proposition 'Trident Grand Residence' at Dubai Marina

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/3/16603-tirdent.jpg

http://www.ameinfo.com/65073.html

Riding on the success of their first three projects, the leading Real Estate Development Company, Trident International Holdings (TIH) today launched their fourth freehold luxury residential project in Dubai, Trident Grand Residence, in the exclusive Dubai Marina.

Positioned as a signature of success or 'Signature de success', TGR sets yet another benchmark in luxurious residential development offering choicest of living features for the luxury sensitive communities. Residents of Trident Grand Residence will exclusively enjoy the pleasures and comforts of unique concepts being introduced for the first time in a residential project in the Dubai Marina. The sky gym, sky lounge, tennis courts besides a full fledged business center, banquet hall and 3G Transponder System are some of these exclusive features along with a whole load of luxurious offerings.

Announcing the launch, Mr. A. S. Jamal, Chairman, Trident International Holdings, said: 'Our earlier three projects were very successful and this attracted a lot of demand for a Trident home. Encouraged by this, we decided to create yet another landmark in luxury living. A hallmark of luxury by itself, the Trident Grand Residence (TGR) in true Trident tradition will offer the finest in luxury living targeted to people who want nothing but the best.'

Adding further, Mr. Wazir Ali Daredia, Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer, mentioned, 'The Dubai Real Estate market has seen rapid changes since we launched our first project. However in relation, Trident's commitment towards its ventures remains the same. We understand luxury living well and we are committed to solely focus our endeavors towards creating new benchmarks in luxury living. Each of our projects spells out new luxury features which others follow.'

Strategically located within walking distance from the oceanfront, this magnificent 45 story project comprising of 253 condominiums & luxury penthouses, will offer a breathtaking unobstructed view of the Palm Jumeirah and the Marina. Situated on the 40th floor, will be the exclusive sky gym complimented with an Aerobics studio. Residents will workout on the state-of-the-art cardio vascular machines or simple practice yoga at the Yoga Alcove. Also for company on the 40th floor will be Cigar Lounge and a well serviced Sky Lounge where business could simply meet leisure for guests and residents.

This property will also bear the stamp of distinguished architect Hazel Wong who designed one of the icons of Dubai's skyline, the 'Emirates Towers'. To TGR she brings with her the experience and expertise of her world class architectural firm RMJM, who have been entrusted to responsibility of shaping TGR to its pristine reality.

Guided by a clear focus and strong strategy, the key differentiator of Trident Grand Residence's value proposition will be the Group's reiteration of the 2L (Location, Luxury)' strategy on this project as well. While neighbors and immediate surroundings play a crucial role in making a house a home, so does an ideal location and the product pedigree which in Trident's case is a sound understanding of the needs of luxury sensitive communities, quality deliverance and an eye for detail. Further strengthening the proposition is luxury, the hallmark of any Trident property.

Like all Trident homes, TGR will be loaded with the smart home technology to control every nuance and mood. From light settings to virtual parenting that keeps a tab on kids' miles away from home. In addition all homes will enjoy the pleasures from a pre-installed home theatre system to indoor and outdoor pools to the majestic grand lobby. Add to this, the convenience of grand banqueting for all occasions with the first of its kind banquet hall and a fully equipped business center for uninterrupted business services to provide hassle free working in truly five star residential environment.

For activity enthusiasts, TGR offers for the first time in the Dubai, a tennis court situated by the Grand outdoor pool. If that's not enough, residents can sweat it out at the squash courts or just enhance their putting skills at the indoor Golf facility, another first in residential apartments. Fun and leisure guaranteed, TGR has one of the highest Private - Public space, generously proportioned to give all residents a home not just to live in but also to enjoy.

Reiterating Tridents commitment to the freehold Real Estate sector in the UAE, Mr. Wazir Daredia, Executive Director & CEO, TIH, added, 'We have carved a niche for ourselves in this market and are looking forward to strengthening the same. Today, the real estate investor is very sophisticated and demands more than just the standard features associated with any luxury development. With Trident Grand Residence we look at satisfying just that at the same time meeting the demand for Real Estate in this region.'

Full-scale construction of Trident Grand Residence will commence shortly, and the project is scheduled for completion by the early half of 2008.

Also partnering Trident on this prestigious project is world renowned interior design firm, Hirsch Bedner & Associates and U.S Headquartered, Parson Brinkerhoff, one of the oldest project management companies in the world. Present in the Middle East for the past 35years, Parson Brinkerhoff are the project managers for the 8th wonder of the world, The Palm Jumeirah. A testament to Dubai's dynamic real estate drive.

Trances
July 31st, 2005, 06:30 AM
Other towers by Trident to remind you
Bayside Residence
http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/13784-project-copy.jpg
Marinascape Towers
http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/7424-trident.jpg

Trances
July 31st, 2005, 06:40 AM
Just reading more about it today
every thing you expect from Trident

Trances
July 31st, 2005, 06:41 AM
sorry for some dumb reason i thought this was new tower
add this front of the current thread

dubaiflo
July 31st, 2005, 12:43 PM
we already knew of that one because of an old render.
you forgot the waterfront , another trident project.

Trances
July 31st, 2005, 02:16 PM
Sorry about that but with so many towers going up and annocehed in Dubai some times it is easy to lose track of a few

Chad
July 31st, 2005, 02:27 PM
From the website:

http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/UploadFiles/images/IMA00008_tgr%20bldg_M.jpg http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/UploadFiles/images/IMA00008_location_M.jpg


I really love the name of it!!!, I really like the design of it!!

and about those two pictures above, The first pic looks like Goldcoast!! and the second pic, whats that tower at the lower center?, Marina Scape?

Trances
July 31st, 2005, 03:39 PM
yes ! how nice of them to add it
And all the green around the rest !
Is there every going to be some thing in center of the round about ?

dubaiflo
July 31st, 2005, 03:51 PM
there is a plot with name 392-??? in the official emaar plot map.
but i doubt it will be used for a res-project.

btw location of the MS is totally wrong on that render above, it is far more right ;)

Dubai_Steve
July 31st, 2005, 04:16 PM
Who is currently selling this one?

and dubaiflo - are you going to be selling your marina scape now to move into the trident grand? :)

dubaiflo
July 31st, 2005, 04:24 PM
no i am fine.
i prefer the MS floor plan and even the location actually.

do you mean who is selling the TGR? just write email to trident.

DUBAI
July 31st, 2005, 07:21 PM
Hmm, their add in gulf news is....erm... the biggest pice of shit i have ever seen on a double page spread.

one whole page is taken up by a reversed image of the one on the other page, with some third world shanty boat station photoshopped in.

and they thin this is exclusive....IDIOTS!

DARKNIGHT
July 31st, 2005, 07:34 PM
Wow...great video...sigh i wish I had the money to buy a condo. I can't wait to finish university and start working full time.

Dubai_Steve
August 1st, 2005, 04:25 PM
Got this price list back from Trident for the Grand Residence

1 BDR - 1270 sq ft (AED 1.2- 1.5 million)
2 BDR - 1620 sq ft (AED 1.6- 1.7 million)
3 BDR - 2000 sq ft (AED 2.0- 2.4 million)

ps. Flo you may be interest to know that Marinascape is reselling at 20% premium

dubaiflo
August 1st, 2005, 06:54 PM
if it is 20% premium i would not earn much if i sell it ;)

though mine is 2300sqft , the price seems reasonable for TGR.

ChrisO
August 2nd, 2005, 10:46 AM
Interesting?!?

I just got those price ranges:

1 BDR- AED 1.2 to 1.4 million
2 BDR- AED 1.6 to 2.0 million
3 BDR- AED 2.4 to 2.8 million

smussuw
August 2nd, 2005, 10:48 AM
^ Why everything is over priced. You can build a huge house with 7 rooms in al barsha for example with this amount of money.

smussuw
August 2nd, 2005, 10:52 AM
Actually it would be 7 rooms for 1.2 million.

dubaiflo
August 2nd, 2005, 11:51 AM
but al barsha is not freehold i think..

John-Dory
August 2nd, 2005, 12:01 PM
Smussuw: Its all about location..location..location
Dubaiflo: Nowhere is freehold yet..he..he fingers crossed.

smussuw
August 2nd, 2005, 12:33 PM
I isnt really about location it is about whether its a freehold or not. Free holds are only in major projects built by Nakheel, Emaar and Dubai Holdings. UAE nationals can build 3 times bigger houses any where in Dubai with a cost of 1.2 million. Only in freehold projects they are overpriced.

If u dont mind buying overpriced houses that would be ur choice.

dubaiflo
August 2nd, 2005, 12:33 PM
i don't care abt that law.

al barsha has some nice locations as well btw.

smussuw
August 2nd, 2005, 12:38 PM
read post 48

dubaiflo
August 2nd, 2005, 01:55 PM
of course freehold is a reason , because that is the only possibilty a foreigner can buy, which increases demand which increases prices.

smussuw
August 2nd, 2005, 02:32 PM
^ which makes it overpriced :rofl:

Trances
August 2nd, 2005, 03:55 PM
rent is same across the board ?

Dubai_Steve
August 6th, 2005, 03:48 PM
Apparently all 1 bedroom apartments are now sold out.
2 bed 90% sold out.

No sign of a summer slowdown then so long as you offer good quality.

Dubai_Steve
August 7th, 2005, 12:25 AM
The service charge is AED 6.00 per sq. ft. for the first year.

DUBAI
August 7th, 2005, 07:48 PM
Question: what happens to all the people who own freehold apartments when it becomes time to knock the building down? it wont last forever.

smussuw
August 7th, 2005, 09:32 PM
^ That is why they said its a 99 ownership.

DUBAI
August 7th, 2005, 10:02 PM
only the originals [marina phase 1 were 99 year leasehold. the others are all freehold.

what happens to the villas could be realy interesting. can people knock the villas down and rebuild their own there in 100yrs time?

and what happens to all of them when emmar goes bust?

smussuw
August 7th, 2005, 10:56 PM
As far as I know there is nothing offcial called free hold.

They are still working in a fediral law.

Trances
August 7th, 2005, 11:11 PM
guess they cruble in to almost ruin then all residents are forced to pay an ammount for refusihment. Or are all bought out and its redeveloped but will intresting in a few decades when we dealwith towers from 20 floors up. Guess it going to be a problem around the world

Dubai_Steve
August 8th, 2005, 03:52 AM
Question: what happens to all the people who own freehold apartments when it becomes time to knock the building down? it wont last forever.

In 100 years time - Nanobots will rebuild the apartments for free or at a shared cost between the residents.

If your thinking that far ahead - better to buy a big plot of land in a good location now while there is some, and get some nanobots to build you a huge house of your own deisgn for free.

Dont think there will be money in 100 years time - but could be wrong.

Better to buy in a high floor - because when the floods come and the seas rise you can just jump out of your windows into your yatch. But then again, why not just live in floor 189 and jump into a virtual reality yatch instead - at least the air conditioning will keep you cool from the then 50-60 degrees heat.

Dubai_Steve
August 8th, 2005, 04:27 AM
Think the Trident is now nearly sold out ! in about 1 week - Amazing considering the price, 2 million AED for a 2 bed.

Just shows you what a good video production does for sales.

DUBAI
August 8th, 2005, 09:37 PM
as well as double page newspaper ads for 10 days, and a massive bilboard on SZR.

after all that they will be making their money back with service charges over the next decade!

dubaiflo
August 12th, 2005, 01:47 PM
6 Dhs / sqft is not much. compare.
though we will pay 4Dhs for MS apt.

Dubai-Lover
September 18th, 2005, 06:44 PM
http://tinypic.com/dr3z2h.jpg

dazz
September 18th, 2005, 07:00 PM
very nice rounded podium

AltinD
September 18th, 2005, 10:36 PM
Becouse the long podium is parallel with the sea shore and in front is only a 10 storey Hotel, three sides will have very good sea view.

dubaiflo
September 18th, 2005, 11:35 PM
yepp has a great location. only thing maybe is that it is a little bit away from the actual marina. but on the other hand it has jbr boulevard very close..

Chad
October 23rd, 2005, 04:44 PM
The pool.

http://www.dwl-consult.com/Dubai_Immobilien/DM_060/DM_TGR_Pool_big.jpg

AltinD
October 23rd, 2005, 11:41 PM
I have the DVD.

dubaiflo
October 24th, 2005, 12:12 AM
it's awesome, isn't it?
same for the MS and bayside.

AltinD
October 24th, 2005, 04:47 PM
^ They are all in one actually, including the Waterfront.

dubaiflo
October 24th, 2005, 05:47 PM
there are single ones for every development too.
or is there just a dvd with all the videos?
how long are they?

Dubai-Lover
October 29th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Trident to introduce futuristic keyless transponder based digital locking and organization system for the first time in the UAE

Leading Real Estate Development Company, Trident International Holdings (TIH), today announced its tie-up with global technology leader in access control and biometrics system, SimonsVoss technology, AG, for implementing transponder based keyless high security systems at Trident Grand Residence (TGR), the fourth freehold luxury residential project at Dubai Marina.

This is the first time that such a system is being implemented at a residential project in the UAE.

Announcing this development, Mr. Wazir Daredia, Director & CEO - TIH said,

'We at Trident have always believed in innovating and setting benchmarks in luxury real estate development. This tie-up will enable us to fully equip our latest up-scale residential offering with state-of-the-art transponder technology that will offer residents of Trident Grand Residence an extremely safe and secure living environment with the convenience of a single key all access.'


SimonsVoss Technologies will provide its Type 3060 radio controlled keyless transponder based locking system which will use an active transponder procedure as the identification medium. The transponder here is a digital key that will be programmed with the locking plan software which will work over radio transmission and no physical contact. All functions at TGR which include opening and closing doors, gates, lift controls etc will be carried out by just a press of one button.

Elaborating on the system, Mr. Wazir Daredia said, 'This technologically advanced system enables communication with the digital components of the transponder system which includes locking cylinders, smart relay and activation unit by sending and receiving constantly changing crypto codes which makes misuse virtually impossible. With the programmed software, this system also makes it possible to define tasks such as deactivation of certain locking after a fixed time or alarm intimation if specific doors open etc.'

Commenting on the partnership, Mr. Rainer Erdmann, Managing Director, SiminosVoss Middle East said, 'Our partnership with Trident marks a new beginning in access control and security solutions domain in the residential sector in UAE. We are indeed pleased to partner with Trident on this prestigious project and are confident that our superior technology will meet all the requirenments of the safety concious, luxury and convenience sensitive resident.'

Strategically located within walking distance from the oceanfront, Residents of Trident Grand Residence will also exclusively enjoy the pleasures and comforts of other unique concepts being introduced for the first time such as sky gym, sky lounge, cigar lounge, aerobics lounge, yoga alcove, indoor golf, tennis courts besides a full fledged business center and banquet hall among a whole load of other luxurious offerings.

Trident International Holdings is a part of a global group engaged in diversified corporate activities with presence in major cities world wide. TIH was incorporated with a committed focus on up market and super luxury living and has since revolutionized this concept of 'luxury living' in the Middle East. Trident has pioneered some bold concepts related to up market luxury living, most of which are benchmarks in the industry.

SimonsVoss Technologies AG is a dynamic high-tech company, headquartered in Unterföhring near Munich. Since the launch of 'digital Locking and Organization System 3060' in 1998, the company has continued to innovate the locking technology. SimonsVoss has in the meanwhile come to be viewed as the European market technology leader in the area of battery operated electronic locking and access control systems. The company has provided hi-tech security solutions to many prestigious projects across the world.

dubaifirst
October 29th, 2005, 09:09 PM
It looks like this is going to be one of the best towers in the marina, no wonder some one bedroom flats are advertised for 1.5million to 1.6 million D.

dubaiflo
October 29th, 2005, 09:14 PM
this along with MS is probably the best marina has to offer so far.
maybe even al fattan are in that range.

Dubai-Lover
October 29th, 2005, 09:54 PM
with this one and bayside residence trident has definitely convinced me

they're very innovative and the whole thing is perfect
renderings, websites, architecture, innovation, floor plans, locations (except the waterfront, but i'm sure the building itself is excellent)

my dream home in the marina would certainly be in one of their projects!

Krazy
October 30th, 2005, 02:31 AM
Trident to have latest access control system

Dubai

Trident International Holdings (TIH), a leading real estate development company, will introduce the futuristic keyless transponder based digital locking and organisation system in its Trident Grand Residence (TGR) in Dubai Marina.

Trident has announced a tie-up with global technology leader in access control and biometrics system, SimonsVoss Technology for implementing this system.

This is the first time that such a system is being implemented at a residential project in the UAE, said Wazir Daredia, director and CEO of TIH said.

"We at Trident have always believed in innovating and setting benchmarks in luxury real estate development. This tie-up will enable us to fully equip our latest up-scale residential offering with state-of-the-art transponder technology that will offer residents of Trident Grand Residence an extremely safe and secure living environment with the convenience of a single key all access."

SimonsVoss Technologies will provide its Type 3060 radio controlled keyless transponder based locking system which will use an active transponder procedure as the identification medium. The transponder here is a digital key that will be programmed with the locking plan software which will work over radio transmission and no physical contact. All functions at TGR which include opening and closing doors, gates, lift controls etc will be carried out by just a press of one button.

Elaborating on the system, Daredia said: "This technologically advanced system enables communication with the digital components of the transponder system which includes locking cylinders, smart relay and activation unit by sending and receiving constantly changing crypto codes which makes misuse virtually impossible. With the programmed software, this system also makes it possible to define tasks such as deactivation of certain locking after a fixed time or alarm intimation if specific doors open etc."

Commenting on the partnership, Rainer Erdmann, managing director, SiminosVoss Middle East said: "Our partnership with Trident marks a new beginning in access control and security solutions domain in the residential sector in UAE. We are indeed pleased to partner with Trident on this prestigious project and are confident that our superior technology will meet all the requirenments of the safety concious, luxury and convenience sensitive resident."

Polarbear
November 14th, 2005, 07:06 PM
I'm narrowing in on this building. Talked with oryx rep. She said that director bought in this building. The sales brochure for this thing is out of this world. Went up to the Grovesner house bar 44 to get an idea of the view from the top floors of this thing. Awesome. Expensive, but quality and location will hold up best.

dubaifirst
November 14th, 2005, 07:25 PM
I'm narrowing in on this building. Talked with oryx rep. She said that director bought in this building. The sales brochure for this thing is out of this world. Went up to the Grovesner house bar 44 to get an idea of the view from the top floors of this thing. Awesome. Expensive, but quality and location will hold up best.

Agree, I have done the same when I was in Dubai, although this is the most expensive tower in the MARINA, IT IS THE BEST.

malec
November 14th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Infinity tower's pretty good too.

dubaiflo
November 14th, 2005, 07:34 PM
but no prices so far am i wrong?

trident project are all top of the line no doubt.

Dubai_Steve
November 14th, 2005, 07:59 PM
I'm narrowing in on this building. Talked with oryx rep. She said that director bought in this building. The sales brochure for this thing is out of this world. Went up to the Grovesner house bar 44 to get an idea of the view from the top floors of this thing. Awesome. Expensive, but quality and location will hold up best.

I agree this is the tower to go for in the marina. However, I believe you can only buy on the 2nd hand market now at a premium, as all are sold out?

dubaiflo
November 14th, 2005, 08:08 PM
then go for infinity.
as far as i know there are still units available in TGR.
nevertheless these are as long as you want to live there and it is not all about investment reasonable even with a premium.

though i don't like the apt layouts as much as the MS's.
nevertheless the facilities are better, but so is the price more expensive ;)

DUBAI
November 16th, 2005, 05:03 PM
id still go for al fattan. but anyhow whats good now, may have been surpassed by the time its finished so its probably not fair to judge now.

anyhow, these keyless locking systems....

i wouldnt trust them. hacking in and opening all the doors sounds like a possibility!

id still trust a good old fashioned lock. why mess with things that dont need messing with!

th

Polarbear
November 16th, 2005, 08:30 PM
A few disjointed thoughts...

Agree, the keyless locking system is not worthy of a press release unless there is something I'm not understanding -- wouldn't be the first time.

Also, I agree with the comment that newer and better buildings will continue to be released with more features and grander lobbies. I need to think about that and what that means.

I think JBR devalues the entire Marina. What a POS. It doesn't makes sense. Dubai is building such great stuff and along comes these communist era apartment blocks.

You guys are much better at the geography, but if I buy TGR with a sea view, is there anyway that something could be built in front of or near to obscure the view? I mean of course there could, but is there anything in the master plan that looks suspicious?

You guys probably know this, but don't stay at the Oasis Beach hotel -- like I did -- or the Hilton Jumeirah, or Ritz Carlton for that matter. What a f'in mess. Seeing that -- terrible roads, huge trucks, noise, dust, etc., makes me a little uncertain. How much longer is this whole area going to be a construction site? A decade?

Terrorism is still a big risk to buying property in Dubai.

DUBAI
November 16th, 2005, 08:35 PM
YES somthing will have to be built between TGR and the sea!

and those commie blocks are where the poor people live...

...you know those minions who run around doing everything for you?????

malec
November 16th, 2005, 09:06 PM
I think JBR devalues the entire Marina. What a POS. It doesn't makes sense. Dubai is building such great stuff and along comes these communist era apartment blocks.

I agree 100% :cheers:

Terrorism is still a big risk to buying property in Dubai.

Not more than anywhere else in the world.

dubaifirst
November 16th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Polar bear. I agree with you about the risk of terrorism not just in Dubai but anywhere in the world. It is a high risk but also the rewards are high. I believe that people who take no risk, do nothing and have nothing. I have decided to invest in the TGR last year and have no regrets.Although this is one of the most expensive towers I believe it will stand out in the crowd very well when all the marina is complete and it will appeal to tenants for both
long term and holiday lets. Remember people will be very choosy in 3 years time when they have thousands of apartments to choose from. Unless you have something out of the ordinary you will struggle to attract tenants to your apartment.TGR is not just a another tower it is 5* luxury Hotel.
As far as it concerns the view I have been to the site which is opposite the Royal meridian which is not a very high building. If you go for a high floor 14 plus in the TGR I think the view is unobstructed and I can,t see any different unless someone decides to demolish the Royal Meridian and build more Towers!

dubaiflo
November 16th, 2005, 10:30 PM
i doubt the sea view of TGR will be destroyed in the near future, even if there will be a midrise hotel expansion etc , the whole view will never be gone.

dubaiflyer
November 16th, 2005, 10:44 PM
The Royal Meridien is owned by Sheik Ahmed al Maktoum, and run by an outstanding General Manager, Pam Wilby. It is one of the best hotels I have ever had the pleasure of experiencing, and, rightly, is almost always full. It also provides all the beach facilities for the Grosvenor House guests.

In the same way that the new hotel development alongside the Meridien Mina Seyahi is relatively low rise, (10 storeys) I would imagine that the beachfront properties will always respect the outlooks from those buildings immediately behind, and don't think anyone is taking too much of a chance in buying a TGR sea view apartment.

Having said that, you can never be absolutely sure.

dubaiflo
November 16th, 2005, 10:50 PM
agree

but i like this

I would imagine that the beachfront properties will always respect the outlooks from those buildings immediately behind

do you think tameer spent only one second to think about what happens to the owners of the tower on the plot behind( which is now the torch) when announcing princess tower, the world's tallest res and ... massive ;)

Nomad
November 16th, 2005, 10:55 PM
How far is it to the nearest public beach ?

dubaiflyer
November 16th, 2005, 11:07 PM
Flo, I dont believe that any of the developers on the other side of the road give a damn about taking views, daylight or sunlight away from another building...that's why Avant is so precious. The risk of losing your outlook should by now be apparent to anyone buying in a development that has the smallest piece of 'dirt' alongside, behind or in front.

However, the beachfront itself might well be where the line is drawn, otherwise why would the existing Jumeirah beachfront hotels, the Mina Seyahi and development alongside be relatively low rise?

A lot of local VIPs, sheiks etc presumably buy in, (as well as own) the buildings with direct sea views, and those are the people who control what happens!

dubaiflo
November 16th, 2005, 11:58 PM
How far is it to the nearest public beach ?

i would guess 200m? but not sure how far it is, altin might know better.


dubaiflyer , i agree with you, but all beach hotels are usually low rise even jebel ali beach resort and i guess not because there might be development behind it in the future ;)

DUBAI
November 17th, 2005, 02:39 AM
why would you want to live this nicely in the marina, when yu could live in burj dubai,

its a no brainer to me!

dubaiflo
November 17th, 2005, 07:48 AM
BD is damn much more expensive and no beach/sea ;)

Polarbear
November 17th, 2005, 09:29 AM
YES somthing will have to be built between TGR and the sea!

and those commie blocks are where the poor people live...

...you know those minions who run around doing everything for you?????

So here's the result of the poll about whether something is going to be built in front of TGR:

DUBAI: Yes, something has to be built
Dubaifirst: Think not
Dubaiflo: Doubt it
Dubaiflyer: Can't be absolutely sure, but think not

DUBAI, you're the holdout here. Can you elaborate?

DUBAI, you set me up as some elitist pig. That's true, but has nothing to do with my comment about communist era blocks. Doubt that many of the gentlemen building the marina will live in JBR, but hopefully a few of them will!

Polarbear
November 17th, 2005, 09:51 AM
The dollar is up 15% against the euro since the first of the year. Is this having any impact?

I mean, I could see someone that bought in December 2004, saying sh*t, I won't be able to make installment payments if this continues, I better sell now.

CPN
November 17th, 2005, 11:44 AM
It kinda looks like the Q1 tower

david
November 17th, 2005, 12:18 PM
The dollar is up 15% against the euro since the first of the year. Is this having any impact?

I mean, I could see someone that bought in December 2004, saying sh*t, I won't be able to make installment payments if this continues, I better sell now.
Suppose if you bought 12 months ago, 75% or so of your payments have already been made, maybe new buyers have missed the gravy train of 12 to 24 months ago mix of low prices and good exchange rates.

dubaifirst
January 11th, 2006, 08:05 AM
Does anyone knows when the ground work is due to commence on this tower? many thanks.

Imre
January 11th, 2006, 12:45 PM
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Payment Plan: Down Payment £15,000

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Completion £20,000

Completion Date: 2008

Units Offered: From 1 Bedroom to 3 bedroom

Project Features: Grand Lobby• Sky Lounge• Business Centre• Cigar Lounge• Sky Gym• Outdoor Pool• Indoor Pool• Jacuzzi• Tennis Court• Indoor Golf• Banquet Hall• International Gourmet & Culinary Facilities• Pool Bar & Pool Grill• Built-in 42” Plasma Home Theatre System• Keyless Transponder System• 3G Super Intelligent Home


Legal: The property is offered on a part ownership basis. The property is owned by an off shore company which will in turn be owned by 5 members of the syndicate. Each syndicate member will be a shareholder of the company and enjoy legal rights thereon.

Should a member wish to sell his share he will be a liberty to do so.

The property will be fully managed by Dubai Premier who will be responsible for bookings, maintenance and distribution of members funds.

For the first two years dubai Premier will manage the property on a short term let basis and pay the members a gauranteed return of 8% on their capital outlay.This return will become due once the property is completed and handed over by the developer.

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thedubailife
January 11th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Intresting concept....not sure it's value for money i.e if 5 people paying 55 k for one bed apartment does a one bed apartment really cost 275k in this development? or are you being charged more.

Sounds like timeshare, :dunno: what to make of this

dubaiflo
January 11th, 2006, 06:02 PM
this is interesting. but 55k sounds very expensive , true. depends on if there are 4 or 5 owners in total.
where did you get that?

thedubailife
January 11th, 2006, 06:42 PM
It's in the text mentions 5

'The property is owned by an off shore company which will in turn be owned by 5 members of the syndicate'

Altough on dubai premier website [http://www.amlaki-md.com/dubaipremier/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=58] it mentions 4 owners either way i doubt a one bed apartment costs above 200k in any bulding in the marina?

Although i would love to know if anyone actually knows the costs of apartments in this building. Maybe that is the actual price and these apartments are on high floors too.

Dubai_Steve
January 11th, 2006, 06:59 PM
In July 05, launch prices were as follows:

1 BDR - 1270 sq ft (AED 1.2- 1.5 million)
2 BDR - 1620 sq ft (AED 1.6- 1.7 million)
3 BDR - 2000 sq ft (AED 2.0- 2.4 million)

Dubai_Steve
January 11th, 2006, 07:05 PM
So I imagine 55k is a 5th share!

For the higher floors that means a 1 bed was almost £240k or AED 1181 per sq ft.
Must be more now with the premium.

dubaifirst
January 13th, 2006, 06:26 PM
Has the ground work started?

dubaiflo
January 13th, 2006, 06:34 PM
doubt it. maybe the site is boarded but i don't think any work has started.

Dubai-Lover
January 13th, 2006, 08:08 PM
next to habtoor grand is a huge plot, maybe 2 football pitches
i'm convinced several projects will go up here, one of them trident grand residence

anyway, the site is fenced in and there is stuff going on
lots of machinery but i have a feeling it doesn't have anything to do with the construction of towers on these plots

more like storage space for all the jbr machinery

dubaiflo
January 13th, 2006, 08:11 PM
noticed this as well there is another one of those storage plots on the other side.
be sure most of the area will be built up soon.

i am just curious if they are going to build a tower on the plot in the roundabout :rofl:

dubaifirst
February 11th, 2006, 10:24 AM
Any update on the groundwork?

AltinD
February 11th, 2006, 11:08 AM
No groundwork, it hasn't started yet.

Krazy
February 24th, 2006, 12:31 AM
^^ I think piling has started. Here's some from Property Week

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/cab60fd4.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/8c4107d3.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/d9349538.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/629ac1bf.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/efda15b7.jpg

malec
February 24th, 2006, 12:43 AM
Example of a good podium for Face81:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/sahmad1/8c4107d3.jpg

dubaiflo
February 24th, 2006, 01:23 AM
yeah, great podium, great design, great project :)

well it is designed by hazel wong afterall, so what do you expect :D:D

Citystyle
February 24th, 2006, 06:07 AM
This is the type of resi tower i would love in perth.

luv2bebrown
February 24th, 2006, 07:43 AM
stunner - perfect kind of tower for the marina

scorpion
February 24th, 2006, 08:26 AM
shall we SWIM or play TENNIS today??? :D


**another** beaute in the pipe!!

Krazy
April 17th, 2006, 01:49 PM
you guys give us updates for Areifi and no site updates for TGR? :ohno:

Piling may have started for this one by now...

dubaiflyer
April 17th, 2006, 05:02 PM
Krazy, This was taken 29 March - as you can see nothing was happening other than the site being used for storage. Hope this helps as an update though.
http://i3.tinypic.com/vq1kxf.jpg

dubaiflo
April 17th, 2006, 09:48 PM
the plot was being boarded. no update though. sorry.

Krazy
April 17th, 2006, 09:51 PM
The Park Island site looks so dead one could make a mini golf course there

Naz UK
April 17th, 2006, 10:22 PM
LOL do these developers rent their plots short term for storage just prior to piling works? It seems every developer has a long period of doing naff all before work begins in Dubai. Must be a reason for this..

dubaiflo
April 17th, 2006, 11:45 PM
park island is really annoying, i mean how angry must the investors be if they look at MP.

dubaifirst
April 26th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Any updates on the ground work?

dubaiflo
April 26th, 2006, 08:01 PM
doubt there is much happening.

probably not even enabling works.

dubaifirst
April 28th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Thanks dubaiflo. Its nearly 9 months since TGR was launched and I believe all the one and two beds have been sold, One would therefore expect the ground work to start any time now if the developer wants to complete in December 2008 as per contracts.

dubaifirst
May 6th, 2006, 11:55 AM
Received an e mail from the developer today advising that initial mobilisation to the site has started and ground work will soon commence.

dubaifirst
May 17th, 2006, 11:57 AM
It is now 9 months since TGR was launched, still no sign of any ground work.I am unable to get even an approximate dates for work commencement.

dubaifirst
May 21st, 2006, 04:48 PM
Anything happening on the ground?

Krazy
May 25th, 2006, 05:59 PM
My sister told me there was activitiy today on site... can someone verify this weekend?

dubaifirst
June 2nd, 2006, 12:56 PM
Thanks Krazy. I recieved an e mail from the developer advising that construction has already started.

Stephan23
June 2nd, 2006, 01:21 PM
Wou great :okay:

Krazy
June 2nd, 2006, 02:43 PM
I'd still ike confirmation from one of our forumers here before changing the status

Toofif
June 2nd, 2006, 10:56 PM
25/5/2006 from Grosvenor House. Ground clearing works nearly completed. Didn't see any other activity.

http://i2.tinypic.com/11hxc2g.jpg

dubaifirst
June 7th, 2006, 04:29 PM
Any activity on the ground?

AltinD
June 10th, 2006, 11:00 PM
As on 10/06/2006,

... ground clearing not yet compleated

http://i6.tinypic.com/13zwm6u.jpg

... but TRIDENT flags were waving all around the site and BAUER equipments have arrived:

http://i5.tinypic.com/13zwfgw.jpg

dubaifirst
July 8th, 2006, 01:03 PM
The piling contract for TGR has been awarded to Bauer GMBH of Germany.

dubaiflo
July 8th, 2006, 02:58 PM
^^ yepp and that goes along with the pictures and the rest of the Trident developments which had piling done by Bauer.

AltinD
July 8th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Bauer has mobilised their work force on the site, but nothing important has started yet.

worldsignia
July 21st, 2006, 11:08 AM
:? any updates ??

Trident is one of my favorite developers & would be nice to see how they getting on

Krazy
July 28th, 2006, 01:46 PM
Today by Imre

http://i7.tinypic.com/219yt84.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/219yt82.jpg

Nizey
July 28th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Thanks Krazy and Imre. The weather is real crap today.

thedubailife
July 28th, 2006, 02:04 PM
^^ Yeah the picture all represent that today. Still good to see machinery on site and work taking place.

Omaro
August 1st, 2006, 11:13 AM
Taking a while to start I guess... Great looking tower nevertheless :)

Stephan23
August 18th, 2006, 11:40 AM
18.08.2006 By Imre

http://i8.tinypic.com/24x2nmc.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/24x2nuc.jpg

http://i8.tinypic.com/24x2nvp.jpg

Stephan23
September 3rd, 2006, 01:01 PM
03.09.2006 By Imre

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2121/img3444xv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2972/img3445np2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Stephan23
September 25th, 2006, 11:57 AM
23.09.2006 By Imre

Board

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9808/img3976vr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Stephan23
October 27th, 2006, 11:24 AM
27.10.2006 By Imre

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8159/dsc0411sa2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5185/dsc0412rh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dubaiflo
October 27th, 2006, 12:28 PM
Massive site :eek:

but it has a huge basement, i love it with that pool and tennis court etc.. nice.

piling has started..

worldsignia
October 27th, 2006, 08:28 PM
not much changed there since i`ve been there a month ago

:poke:

dubaifirst
October 28th, 2006, 11:05 AM
Good progress, I paid 1120 UAD per sq foot 15 months ago, a friend of mine has been offered a one bed for 1300 UAD per sq foot. Is this now the average rate for good marina towers?

dubaifirst
November 25th, 2006, 06:26 PM
Can anyone in Dubai please give us update on TGR?

True Blue
November 25th, 2006, 07:01 PM
Good progress, I paid 1120 UAD per sq foot 15 months ago, a friend of mine has been offered a one bed for 1300 UAD per sq foot. Is this now the average rate for good marina towers?
:ohno:
IMO high for a building with around 3 years to go!

Dubai_Steve
November 25th, 2006, 07:23 PM
but TGR has very high quality facilities, I think this is about right.

Compare with Bay Central which is currently about AED 1157 per sq ft pre construction price.

True Blue
November 25th, 2006, 07:42 PM
OK right at this minute Better Homes has 6 no 1 bed apartments 1270 sqft

The average price is 1,454,363AED which results in 1145AED/sqft

This is asking price so possibly cheaper if seller willing to negotiate. And just as an aside Bay Central is over priced in my opinion again.

dubaiflo
November 25th, 2006, 08:35 PM
this is worth its price, no doubt.

dubaifirst
November 25th, 2006, 09:08 PM
OK right at this minute Better Homes has 6 no 1 bed apartments 1270 sqft

The average price is 1,454,363AED which results in 1145AED/sqft

This is asking price so possibly cheaper if seller willing to negotiate. And just as an aside Bay Central is over priced in my opinion again.

Please correct me if I am wrong.These prices may be correct for the A Type which is I believe a low floor, I think type B with unobstructed palm and sea view is more expensive than what you indicated.

True Blue
November 25th, 2006, 09:34 PM
^^
In your original post you made no mention of unobstructed palm views. You asked for an opinion on "THE AVERAGE RATE", you got one based on facts.
:wallbash:
If you want more info on the views of the 6 apartments I used to illustrate an AVERAGE representative price, you could always contact better homes yourself.
www.bhomes.com

dubaifirst
November 25th, 2006, 10:12 PM
Thank You True Blue.

Dubai_Steve
November 26th, 2006, 03:55 AM
Don't forget the quality of the facilities on this one, think this is the communal party room for hire

http://www.tridentgrandresidence.com/UploadFiles/images/IMA00007_THE_SAN2_M.jpg

Agree with flo, this is a great tower to own in. Would have bought here myself if I could get a mortgage, bought in TT instead because of the payment plan.

True Blue
November 26th, 2006, 12:41 PM
Trident's first development, The Waterfront, is a shining example of quality. As a benchmark they have stated that their future developments will be better, Wow!!! I definately would have bought here but I opted for another high spec luxury development (The Jewels) designed coincidently by the same architect.

The 42" plasma deal was a good marketing ploy as at the time they cost $3000. By the time they hand over they will probably cost $500.

Quite a few of the other developments completed so far have disappointed in terms of promising luxury and high spec and not delivering. Marina diamonds and Marina Residence to name a few. If Trident deliver what they promise then they will become highly sought after addresses, the values of which will only go in one direction ^^

dubaifirst
December 7th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Don,t forget the sky gym and Tennis courts, I don,t know of any other tower in the marina with similar specs. TGR is a sheer extravagance.

dubaiflyer
December 14th, 2006, 01:21 AM
12 December - the hole is progressing.
http://i16.tinypic.com/4hto65v.jpg

Chad
December 14th, 2006, 04:10 AM
Thanks a lot for the updates ! :)

Krazy
January 15th, 2007, 04:40 PM
From 17th floor of Habtoor Hotel

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/356342400_25dd2c4257_b.jpg

dubaiflo
January 15th, 2007, 05:51 PM
such a massive basement.. no wonder with all those facilities.

dubaifirst
January 16th, 2007, 09:59 AM
I presume this one story building in the front will be demolished.

dubaiflo
January 16th, 2007, 02:50 PM
I am not sure what of those is correct but these are the two things i have in mind:

1) it was a temporaty electricity/AC building for JBR while UC
2) it is a necessary building for services in the area and will not be demolished.

we hears sth about it but that was ages ago and i can't remember exactly, what i know that it is a DCP plant.

Krazy
January 16th, 2007, 02:54 PM
it will not be demolished

DUBAI
January 17th, 2007, 02:35 AM
These guys seem to very proud of the fact that they won a CNBC Arabian property award.

Good on them you may say, its a recognition of good quality.

But is it?

Should we view this award with more of a stigma, is it little more than a rosette purchased like an accessory to throw more glory on a firm and divert attention from undrlying problems?

I say this because of another busines which was recognised for its 'excellence' by the same award scheme. Our theiving friends at GOWEALTHY.com also conveniantly won an award, which they too are proud of for 'best property portal'.

just some food for thought.

dubaiflo
January 17th, 2007, 11:27 AM
^^ :lol:

well that award is certainly .. ok not crap but at least questionable..

however not every company winning it is a bad one ;)

dubaifirst
January 17th, 2007, 04:14 PM
Well done to the Trident International Holdings, the waterfront, Marinascape, bayside and TGR not just have the best marina locations but plans, facilites and the quality of finish will be one of the best.

dubaiflo
January 17th, 2007, 04:48 PM
The Waterfront does NOT have one of the best marina locations ;) rather average :D

But i understand your excitement.

DUBAI
January 18th, 2007, 01:45 PM
how can you say 'well done' to a building?

best locations?

no sea view, hard to access by car, and a significant walk to the metro.

dubaiflo
January 18th, 2007, 04:19 PM
^^ no sea view?

hard to access.. well ok.. questionable.

anyway he was saying well done to Trident company.

dubaifirst
January 18th, 2007, 04:39 PM
how can you say 'well done' to a building?

best locations?

no sea view, hard to access by car, and a significant walk to the metro.

Don,t critisie what you can,t understand!

DUBAI
January 20th, 2007, 11:21 PM
well, it has a sea view for now, but its only a matter of time untill they redevelop the royal meridian and other beachside hotels.

and theres a good building *affectionate pat*

dubaifirst
January 21st, 2007, 03:01 AM
What do you mean by redevelop the royal meridian? do you mean building more floors or demolishing it all and building three towers?

DUBAI
January 21st, 2007, 02:23 PM
I remeber seeing a proposal where the round concrete tower was replaced by a much taller glass fronted one in the same style of the one at the other end of the hotel. probably 35-40 odd floors.

dubaiflo
January 21st, 2007, 02:56 PM
^^ where did u see this?

DUBAI
January 21st, 2007, 03:31 PM
i cant really remember to be honest, it was on an a4 proposal sheet with a colour photo at the top and techinformation below it.must have been in about 2004 i think. it was one of the first things i used SSP and SSC to look for.

AltinD
January 21st, 2007, 05:38 PM
^^ I don't remember, but you have either mentioned that earlier or posted a picture of it.

dubaifirst
January 24th, 2007, 06:12 PM
Can someome explain please?

If you look at the floor plans of the 1 bed apartments(7A&7B), the total area is 1270 Sq. Ft and this is marketed and sold by the developer as one bed.However, looking at the plans closely, they have a second room described as"den",I think it has a small window, the size of this room is 119 Sq. Ft which can easliy be used as a second bedroom. My question is has the developer made a mistake by marketing what should have been a 2 bed apartment as one bed as I would have thought most developers would have done?

The plans are available on www.tridentgrandresidence.com.

Morrismarina
January 24th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Yes I noticed this a while ago. I reckon the "den" does not have any windows & hence could not really be called a bedroom in such a high quality development. Also it's very small but could of course be useful as a small bedroom for an occasional guest.

dubaiflo
January 24th, 2007, 09:46 PM
^^ i agree.

Trident would not want to offer such an apartment as two bed in this luxurious development.

the den is kinda majilis or office room...

dubaifirst
January 25th, 2007, 03:58 PM
An estaste agent in Dubai told me today that the devloper is now considering changing the plans by ensuring the provision of a window in the "Den" following recieving many requests by clients. By doing this the 1 bed will be 2 and the 2 bed will be 3 bed. Can anyone see this happening and if so will this affect the value of the apartments.

thedubailife
January 25th, 2007, 05:10 PM
^^ Sounds like the developers listening to it's customers. Without a doubt you'd think you would get a value increase as your 1 bed all of a suden becomes 1 bed with guest room at the very least or a 2 bed at the most.

But i'd never take the word of an estate agent on face value not unless i have had other reliable information of them. So i suppose contacting developer to verfiy information would be a better option.

DUBAI
January 26th, 2007, 08:27 AM
I doubt prices will change, these apts are already at the peak of the market, and if other places dont increace will soon be over valued.

Imre
January 26th, 2007, 03:22 PM
26/01/2007

Trident Grand Residence

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4819/photo114sx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2136/photo115uo4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Krazy
January 26th, 2007, 04:21 PM
what are the pillar like structures sticking out?

True Blue
January 26th, 2007, 09:13 PM
^^ Caissons. They form the piles and act as a sheild to support the hole bored by the auger rigg. They are drawn to the surface at the same time as the concrete is poured in to the pile.

dubaifirst
January 28th, 2007, 01:15 PM
i cant really remember to be honest, it was on an a4 proposal sheet with a colour photo at the top and techinformation below it.must have been in about 2004 i think. it was one of the first things i used SSP and SSC to look for.

I can,t imagine that this will ever happen.I have stayed in the Royal Meridian several times and I learnt from the manager that all the rooms have been refurbished in the last 3 years. It seems to be a waste to knock the central tower down to built a taller tower after all the extensive refurbishment, but who am I to know where the truth is. May be someone else on this forum has the proof.

Stephan23
February 16th, 2007, 02:35 PM
16.02.2007

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9660/photo133gf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5050/photo134ev3.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo134ev3.jpg)http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8205/photo135aa1.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo135aa1.jpg)http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9597/photo136yo8.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo136yo8.jpg)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6717/photo137vn2.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo137vn2.jpg)http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3917/photo138jy3.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo138jy3.jpg)
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5285/photo139sb2.th.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo139sb2.jpg)http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5785/photo140qn5.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo140qn5.jpg)

dubaifirst
February 16th, 2007, 02:52 PM
Thanks for the update Stephan. Does anyone know how long will it take on average till the basement slab level is reached? Many Thanks

Stephan23
February 16th, 2007, 03:05 PM
^^ Not my update. I only repost the pictures!
A great thank to Imre

Krazy
February 16th, 2007, 03:08 PM
At least one more year before we see the it rise above ground level imo..

dubaiflo
February 16th, 2007, 08:04 PM
first regular floors beginning 2008 earliest, i also think so.

True Blue
February 24th, 2007, 10:24 PM
Progress on piling at 10th Feb. Engineer in charge stated that 2 months work remaining on piles.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1723/imgp0472ti1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Pile being pumped full of concrete which displaces the bentonite (may just be dirty water)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3103/imgp0471yg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Vibrator clamped onto caisson after concrete filled to top.
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4263/imgp0474ja5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Vibrator set to extract and steel caisson draw out
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3559/imgp0475lm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

thedubailife
February 25th, 2007, 01:33 AM
Thanks True Blue, now us non engineers know how some of the intaial groundwork happens

THE DUBAI GUYS
March 16th, 2007, 04:43 PM
Hong Kong wins Trident
CONSTRUCTION UAE
16 Mar 2007
Hong Kong-based CSHK Dubai Contracting has been awarded the estimated AED 350 million ($95 million) main construction contract for the Trident Grand Residence tower in Dubai Marina. The 25-month contract involves the construction of a 45-storey residential building. UK-based RMJM is the consultant. US-based Hirsch Bedner & Associates is the interior designer. Parsons Brinckerhoff, also of the US, is the project manager.

R

Jafafwa
March 24th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Hello all,
This is my first post here. I have been reading on these forums for a week or so and you guys are the best source of information anyone could ask for.

We are moving to Dubai later on this year. I have been lookking at TGR as I really like the quality level this one will potentialy have compared to some of the other stuff already out there. We would be willing to wait for good quality if we have to.
We have been offered a 2 bed unit, type 1B on 21st floor. I do have one concern about the view. I know you have discussed this in previous posts but do you have any new insight on the likelyhood of something being built in front of TGR that would block a 21st floor view?

dubaifirst
March 25th, 2007, 03:12 PM
I bought in the TGR myself 18 months ago.You are not just buying an apartment but you are buying in a 5 stars hotel with all the luxurious facilities which come with it. What is in the front of the tower is the royal meridian, the height of the central tower in the royal meridian is approximatley 15 -18 floors, so if you buy anything in the 20th floor plus you should have clear seaviews, I am not sure about marina views though. if you don,t mind me asking , what are you paying per sq/ft?

Jafafwa
March 26th, 2007, 05:49 PM
^^ Thanks I agree this building should be one of the most desirable in the marina. Comes to about 1200d per sq/ft. Seems "reasonable" for this building, am I wrong?

Does anyone have a plan for the entire floors? One that shows the position of each type of unit in relation to the others and what direction they face.
I'm finding this stangely difficult to get.

kano
March 26th, 2007, 05:57 PM
^^^ thats a reasonable rate for tridant. It is going to be a good investment for you.

dubaifirst
March 27th, 2007, 04:17 PM
1200 UAD per sq/ft is a very good price for TGR, a friend of mine paid 1250 UAD in October last year, mind you this was for 1 bed flat.

AltinD
March 27th, 2007, 06:27 PM
^^ The abreviation for Dirham is either AED or DHS. ;)

ps500
April 1st, 2007, 09:06 PM
Good progress on piling ?

http://i12.tinypic.com/35lu5uu.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/4h1yexk.jpg

Josau
April 2nd, 2007, 07:28 AM
^^ Wow, compare this to True Blue's photos from february 10th, they were very fast in piling!

Imre
April 27th, 2007, 01:12 PM
27/04/2007

Trident Grand Residence

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7139/imresolt118ir4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9407/imresolt119tv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dubaiflo
April 27th, 2007, 02:28 PM
piling seems to be done :)

Gregorious
May 4th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Quite fast......good :D

dubaifirst
May 6th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Good progress. The prices have also appreciated by 20% since launch.

glover
May 22nd, 2007, 01:32 PM
Anyone knows if Trident owns this plot also! They have it fenced and their borad is on it.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1626/tridentkg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dubaiflo
May 22nd, 2007, 03:55 PM
would be new to me.

the plot on the left is DEWA facility... and the one above is TGR..

weird.. maybe they are just allowed to use it right now for storage etc

glover
May 22nd, 2007, 06:35 PM
they have offices there and their comany flags are all over the fence, in addition to a board of the project (with a picture of TGR). Doesn't look it's temporary, unless Emaar knows that the plot is going to be empty for a long while and was ok with TGR using it like that!

CRS
May 28th, 2007, 07:05 AM
Hi all,

I am new to this site. Thanks for all the very useful information. I am looking to buy a 3 bedroom in the TGR, hopefully above floor 20. One thing that concerns me is that if I pay a premium for a good sea view, is that it stays a sea view. Alos does anyone have any accurate information as to completion date of this project. The info in the above thread varies quite considerably.

Thanks for your help

CRS

Dubai_Steve
May 28th, 2007, 06:52 PM
What is the current realistic completion date for this ?

True Blue
May 28th, 2007, 07:01 PM
^^ 25 months after these guys hit site plus the usual 6 - 9 month delay.

Hong Kong wins Trident
CONSTRUCTION UAE
16 Mar 2007
Hong Kong-based CSHK Dubai Contracting has been awarded the estimated AED 350 million ($95 million) main construction contract for the Trident Grand Residence tower in Dubai Marina. The 25-month contract involves the construction of a 45-storey residential building. UK-based RMJM is the consultant. US-based Hirsch Bedner & Associates is the interior designer. Parsons Brinckerhoff, also of the US, is the project manager.

R

Imre
May 29th, 2007, 06:34 PM
Hi all,

I am new to this site. Thanks for all the very useful information. I am looking to buy a 3 bedroom in the TGR, hopefully above floor 20. One thing that concerns me is that if I pay a premium for a good sea view, is that it stays a sea view. Alos does anyone have any accurate information as to completion date of this project. The info in the above thread varies quite considerably.

Thanks for your help

CRS

I just found this in today Gulfnews:

http://i18.tinypic.com/62htht1.jpg

Julito-dubai
June 4th, 2007, 06:17 PM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4093/38200665buk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2467/38200658bty7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Interior shots of Trident Grand Residence

more pictures under:

http://www.immonet.de/expose.do;jsessionid=auyzdt04BmG5?pageid=2&object_id=6984229&objecttype=1&orderby=topobject&y=19&ordertype=desc&state=29&marketingtype=1&x=40

ezste
June 8th, 2007, 12:22 AM
For sea views - i think these are only going to be g'teed on the 5b's above floor 16 / 17.

4 & 6 will have them too - but 4 will be looking toward JBR quite a bit and 6 should be ok for most part - although there is a building obviously going up directly opposite 6 so the 'sea view' will be a little to the 'side' as it were....

sea view or not - it still looks like it will be one of the best 2 or 3 in the marina and that will hold it in good stead over the longer term

dubaifirst
June 8th, 2007, 10:20 AM
I also think 7b above floor 16th will have a clear palm and sea views.The basement slab is nearly completed and this tower should now rise fast.

ezste
June 8th, 2007, 03:20 PM
i think you are right about 7b - except i think there is a building going to be built (prob started already) alongside Habtoor Grand - kinda in line between the Grosvenor and the sea... that might obscure some views loooking that way - along with the building that is directly going next to the TGR....

still think this building will end up separating itself from the rest as much on quality more than views - although there is nothing going directly up against it as it has the road around it and the pool and courts give it natural guaranteed distance against its neighbour...

Trident reckon end 2008 but i cant see it being ready til Mid 2009? what do others think?

ezste
June 8th, 2007, 03:23 PM
sorry meant to say ... so the only real guaranteed direct views are from the 5b's on 16+..... over the Meridian main hotel...

but like most things here - i guess you have to watch this space - it is dubai after all so i guess anything can happen!

ezste
June 8th, 2007, 03:24 PM
TGR are apparently chasing the next installment for June 15th - saying the base slab is complete - is it actually complete yet? Does that mean a likely end date can be calculated?

Zio Fritz
June 8th, 2007, 05:18 PM
I think 5b from 12-13+ could be good, considering that the Meridien tower has approx 12-13 floors and that TGR will have a big podium (bigger than Meridien). But at the end who knows...

Regards.

Imre
June 9th, 2007, 03:28 PM
big day:)

09/June/2007

TGR

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5766/imresolt006ze8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1308/imresolt007rr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dubaiflo
June 9th, 2007, 09:23 PM
pouring the concrete.

so we are now ready to rise :) this might be over ground in 2-3 months..

Tate
June 19th, 2007, 04:16 AM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4093/38200665buk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2467/38200658bty7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Interior shots of Trident Grand Residence

more pictures under:

http://www.immonet.de/expose.do;jsessionid=auyzdt04BmG5?pageid=2&object_id=6984229&objecttype=1&orderby=topobject&y=19&ordertype=desc&state=29&marketingtype=1&x=40

WOW!!! Beautiful interiors and in my opinion these apartments are great value for money considering the location! One of the best developments in Dubai Marina without doubt! What an awesome view out over the water towards Palm Jumeirah....:)

Trident are just awesome, and probably one of the best developers in Dubai!

dubaifirst
June 19th, 2007, 02:03 PM
WOW!!! Beautiful interiors and in my opinion these apartments are great value for money considering the location! One of the best developments in Dubai Marina without doubt! What an awesome view out over the water towards Palm Jumeirah....:)

Trident are just awesome, and probably one of the best developers in Dubai!

Agree, the prices have already gone up by 20% to 30% since launch.

Imre
June 23rd, 2007, 06:47 PM
23/June/2007

TGR from JBR

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4549/imresolt001ql8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ezste
June 27th, 2007, 07:37 PM
oooo

ezste
June 27th, 2007, 07:51 PM
Any one know of a type 6b or 5b for sale on floor 23 or above?

Imre
August 3rd, 2007, 12:40 PM
03/Aug/2007

TRIDENT GRAND RESIDENCE

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6808/imresolt166ne6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5175/imresolt167vw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

AndyCleat
August 15th, 2007, 11:13 AM
I have a Type 6b available if anyone is wanting....

GoDubai!
August 15th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Those pictures (renders) at the link do look increadibly nice--almost as good as those for Pentominium, however, there is one that features a 19th century style classic European/American lobby, complete with central staircase. That style does not at all go with that shown in the other images which are generally rather modern or a post-modern art deco.

Imre
August 17th, 2007, 10:49 AM
17/Aug/2007

TRIDENT GRAND RESIDENCE

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/6369/imresolt136ni1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5333/imresolt137fo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dubaifirst
August 27th, 2007, 12:18 PM
Is completion by December 2008 realistic for TGR?

DubaiMarina
August 27th, 2007, 12:39 PM
No. :ohno:

joobn
August 27th, 2007, 09:30 PM
i must say that you should be glad that completion is late. As we all know fast=rushed, and poorer quality. I have no doubt that trident will be none other than one of the best developers in the marina, as their other completed developments have certaintly shown.

Krazy
August 27th, 2007, 09:55 PM
^^ which completed trident development's' are you talking about?

DubaiMarina
August 28th, 2007, 12:44 AM
i must say that you should be glad that completion is late. As we all know fast=rushed, and poorer quality.

Are you working for Trident? Do you really think that Emaar or Deyaar projects are poor quality because they are on time?

Customers deside what is good quality and what is not. If Trident projects are very late that is poor quality to me. To know what are you doing and keep promises are good quality.

wiki
August 28th, 2007, 12:53 AM
pretty refreshing from all those over the top towers in dubai.

Imre
August 28th, 2007, 08:55 AM
^^ which completed trident development's' are you talking about?

they have just the Waterfront, I was there last year but nothing special.

Imre
August 28th, 2007, 08:56 AM
Is completion by December 2008 realistic for TGR?

2010 is more realistic , main contractor is the CSHK and this is not a really fast company (e.g. Armada Towers-JLT)

ezste
September 3rd, 2007, 07:49 PM
I have a Type 6b available if anyone is wanting....
ANDY CLEAT - sorry about the delay - get in touch to let me know if still avail

cheers Steve

ezste
September 4th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Any one need (or want) to sell a 5b or 6b?