The vil...err tow...err cit...err CAPITAL!
CHISINAU
MOLDOVA

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Ah the megapolis of Chisinau :) interesting pictures. I like the Triumphal Arch.

A beautiful capital for such a troubled country...

Whats the deal with Moldova? WHy is it a troubled country?:?

Great pics, Mila...when were you in Kishinev?

You know what they say about Moldova.. it's Ukraine's tampon

Nice pictures, but where are the commies? :( :D

^ Me? In Chisinau? Doubtful. I'd rather take a holiday in Karadhoyansk.

Commieblocks, commieblocks, commieblocks! :D

You know what they say about Moldova.. it's Ukraine's tampon

uhm... What!?! :dunno:

It's a joke. It sounds funny in Russian.

Whats the deal with Moldova? WHy is it a troubled country?:?



Isn't it not in control of its entire territory?

Yes, there is a very poor, separatistic region "pridnestrovye" that is occupied by russian military.

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And mostly Ukrainian populated;)

Part of its territory is foreign occupied...sounds troubled to me... :)

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And mostly Ukrainian populated;)

See how russians follow us around the globe? :)

They protect you...like the big brothers they are;)

:rofl: they protect the locals there by keeping them in a large military regime controlled camp

Oh, did you ask them maybe?;)

Yes, there is a very poor, separatistic region "pridnestrovye" that is occupied by russian military.

don't talk bullshit like that, Moldova is not occupied ! and as you know half of moldovian population is russian.

Whats the deal with Moldova? WHy is it a troubled country?:?

Great pics, Mila...when were you in Kishinev?

Moldova is the poorset country in Europe !

Oh, did you ask them maybe?;)

I have a friend from Pridnestrovye and I've read quite a bunch of articles about the region. It's the poorest and most dangerous, crime filled region in Europe.

don't talk bullshit like that, Moldova is not occupied ! and as you know half of moldovian population is russian.

1.) Pridnestrovye, an eastern region of Moldova is currently occupied by Russian military.
- Few days ago, President Yuschenko submitted a plan for resolution of the conflict which includes withdrawal of Russian forces from the region and Moldovan parliament accepted it.

2.) Half of Moldovan population is not Russian.

don't talk bullshit like that, Moldova is not occupied ! and as you know half of moldovian population is russian.

From CIA World Factbook, 1989 est:

Moldovan/Romanian 64.5%, Ukrainian 13.8%, Russian 13%

I knew a girl from Moldova once , she was russian.

1.) Pridnestrovye, an eastern region of Moldova is currently occupied by Russian military.
- Few days ago, President Yuschenko submitted a plan for resolution of the conflict which includes withdrawal of Russian forces from the region and Moldovan parliament accepted it.

2.) Half of Moldovan population is not Russian.
i know that there are russian military in Moldova and that Moldova wants to withdrawal military from there just like Georgia did but it doesn't mean that it's occupied. The russian forces are there since Moldova was in the sovjet union and stayed there because Moldova didn't really had an army anymore after 1991. So this is not occupation !

Whatever is happening, Chisinau doesn't seem like a happy city. It seems rigidly controlled.

i know that there are russian military in Moldova and that Moldova wants to withdrawal military from there just like Georgia did but it doesn't mean that it's occupied. The russian forces are there since Moldova was in the sovjet union and stayed there because Moldova didn't really had an army anymore after 1991. So this is not occupation !

The Russian forces are not in actual Moldova. They are OCCUPYING eastern part of it called "Pridnestrovye" they even have a puppet regime there, with a president SMIRNOFF. They print their own "roubles" too.

And don't say bullshit about not having them an army anymore after 1991. Because there was a large soviet military base in the south of Moldova. Actually for a country so tiny, they had too much military.

Perhaps your ignorance goes further and you are not aware of a war that was going on there in early 90's either. It was the separatism of the russian military controlled Pridnestrovye from Moldova.

Россия не хочет выводить войска из Молдовы
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12 Июня 2005, 13:45

Москва серьезно обеспокоена склонностью молдавских парламентариев к принудительным мерам в разрешении приднестровского конфликта, заявил официальный представитель МИД РФ Александр Яковенко.

"Склонность молдавских парламентариев к принудительным мерам решения этого регионального конфликта без учета мнения самих приднестровцев и вне рамок цивилизованного диалога сторон вызывает серьезное беспокойство", - говорится в заявлении Яковенко, распространенном в Москве.

10 июня парламент Молдовы принял обращение, в котором заявил о необходимости вывода Россией войск и вооружения из Приднестровья до конца года. Комментируя принятие парламентом Молдовы декларации и обращений, посвященных перспективам приднестровского урегулирования, Яковенко подчеркнул, что они "на практике означают вариант силового принуждения жителей Приднестровья к безоговорочному вхождению в конституционное поле унитарной Молдавии, что вызывает глубокое разочарование".

"Единственный способ приднестровского урегулирования - выработка за столом политических переговоров надежно гарантированного особого статуса Приднестровья при сохранении территориальной целостности Республики Молдова", - подчеркнул официальный представитель МИД России.

Также и Тирасполь возражает против вывода российской группы войск с территории Приднестровья.

Пресс-атташе министерства госбезопасности непризнанной республики Дмитрий Остапчук заявил: "Наша позиция остается неизменной - российская армия, которая пришла в Приднестровье в 1791 году в ходе русско-турецкой войны, должна оставаться здесь до тех пор, пока это будет отвечать официальным интересам России. Эта позиция подтверждена результатами референдума марта 1995 года, представляет собой выражение интересов всего населения Приднестровья".

Молдова призывает Россию уйти

Парламент Молдовы одобрил план урегулирования конфликта вокруг Приднестровья, в котором самопровозглашенной республике предлагается широкая автономия, а российским войскам рекомендуется покинуть регион до конца 2005 года.

Кроме того, молдавские депутаты единогласно поддержали план приднестровского урегулирования, предложенный Президентом Украины Виктором Ющенко.

Украинские инициативы предполагают, что до середины 2005 года Молдавия должна разработать концепцию закона о статусе Приднестровья и не позднее осени провести под международным контролем выборы в Верховный совет региона.

На втором этапе плана приднестровский парламент должен делегировать представителей для окончательной разработки закона о правовом статусе региона, а на третьем этапе Приднестровье получает широкие права автономии в составе Молдовы. Гарантами сохранения ее привилегий должны стать Россия, Украина и ОБСЕ.

Однако в плане Ющенко ничего не сказано о серьезных разногласиях Кишинева и Тирасполя о демилитаризации региона и политическом устройстве Приднестровья.

Поддержав предложения украинского президента, молдавские депутаты дополнили их собственными требованиями, в том числе - о выводе из Приднестровья российских войск и оружия. В настоящее время Россия держит в регионе около 1,2 тыс. военных, которые охраняют оружейные склады и участвуют в миротворческой операции.

"План Ющенко"

Целью предложенного Киевом плана, включающего три этапа, каждый из которых не превышает шести месяцев, называется "реинтеграция Молдовы на основе единства территории и государственной власти, демократического политического устройства".

На первом этапе Украина предлагает парламенту Молдовы принять не позднее июля 2005 года закон об основных положениях статуса Приднестровья и провести не позднее октября-ноября под международным контролем выборы в Верховный совет Приднестровья.

Единственным субъектом международного права должна оставаться Молдова, а Приднестровье должно стать республикой в ее составе со своей Конституцией, символикой, тремя официальными языками - молдавским, украинским и русским, - правом устанавливать внешние контакты в экономической и гуманитарной сфере.

На втором этапе новоизбранный Верховный совет Приднестровья делегирует своих представителей в комиссию парламента Молдовы, которая должна разработать закон об особом правовом статусе Приднестровья.

Третий этап предполагает полное урегулирование приднестровской проблемы, правовое обеспечение особого статуса Приднестровья в составе Молдовы. На этом этапе разрабатывается договор между Молдовой, Украиной, РФ и ОБСЕ о гарантиях этого статуса. Договор утверждается парламентом Молдовы, после чего вступает в силу закон об особом статусе Приднестровья, и Верховный совет региона принимает собственную конституцию.

В 1999 году на саммите НАТО в Стамбуле было решено, что Россия выведет свои войска из Приднестровья до конца 2002 года.

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The Russian forces are not in actual Moldova. They are OCCUPYING eastern part of it called "Pridnestrovye" they even have a puppet regime there, with a president SMIRNOFF. They print their own "roubles" too.

And don't say bullshit about not having them an army anymore after 1991. Because there was a large soviet military base in the south of Moldova. Actually for a country so tiny, they had too much military.

Perhaps your ignorance goes further and you are not aware of a war that was going on there in early 90's either. It was the separatism of the russian military controlled Pridnestrovye from Moldova.
yeah and those bases where from the sovjet times.
as you said the russian forces and not occupying Moldova but only the eastern part (most russians live there) because it's russian ground.

I won't reply as to hold myself back from insulting you.

I won't reply as to hold myself back from insulting you.
listen my uncel is from Moldova and he told me enough about it.
you are always trying to bash russians or russia while your ukraine isn't a damn thing better and you should show some respect to your eastern brothers :cheers:

First of all, Moldova is generally to the west from central Ukraine :) it's not an eastern neighbour for us.

I just posted an article in Russian which described the situation pretty well. I assume you can read Russian. Though your last comment made no sense at all.

Because:
No part of Moldova is Russian territory. This is not even claimed by Russian president. Only by your Uncle.

I can summarize it for you once again, if you are interested and worried about the subject.

- Moldova became independent in 1991.
- About in 1992 the eastern part of it, called "Pridnestrovye" with capital of Tiraspil' was occupied by Russian forces, with the head of General Lebed'.
- There was a war between Moldova and "Pridnestrovye" for a few years.
- Moldova is the poorest country in Europe, yet Pridnestrovye is even poorer than "centrist" Moldova.
- Pridnestrovye is not recognized by any government in the world, not even by Russian government. It is kept in pseudo-military stance for over 10 years now.
- President of Ukraine has just proposed a plan which will involve foreign peacekeeping forces there and will help reintegrate Pridnestrovye into all of Moldova, on federal basis. The plan is three stages of 6 months. It involves withdrawal of Russian military from there.
- Russia declined today.

First of all, Moldova is generally to the west from central Ukraine :) it's not an eastern neighbour for us.

i mean Russia not Moldova :) they are your eastern friends.

- Moldova became independent in 1991.
- About in 1992 the eastern part of it, called "Pridnestrovye" with capital of Tiraspil' was occupied by Russian forces, with the head of General Lebed'.
- There was a war between Moldova and "Pridnestrovye" for a few years.

it was an civil war yes, my uncel is also from Tiraspil.

What is going ON here?

Moldova is the poorset country in Europe !

no wonder. Russian occupation only brings corruption and poverty...

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And about the city...is nice to see photos about it because is very unknown place...
But it looks nice and weird hehe, i love that russian church/cathedral.
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Can someone post some information about it?

Great site on Chisinau's old architecture!

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NOW and THEN

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Wow! This site is gorgerous! There are architectural plans of the buildings and such! :drool:
Seeing this web, you can see the real attractive of Chishinau. :yes: multsumesc! :okay:

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cu placere!