The suburbs outside of Edmond have grown at a rather dull rate surprisingly. Norman is expected to be passed by Broken Arrow by about 2016 if rates keep up. But that is part of the reason why OKC and Tulsa are diverging so much. Tulsa's suburbs are getting a disproportionate share of the growth while in OKC, the city proper is garnering the growth (largely based on its size).

2016 huh? Interesting. One thing I wish is that Lawton would be larger than it is.

I've just been thinking that OKC seems to have slower suburb growth than it should...

good. born and raised in mustang, and i can tell you i'm very glad to have left suburbia behind.

good. born and raised in mustang, and i can tell you i'm very glad to have left suburbia behind.

Of course I don't show such a hatred for suburbia, I think it's blown out of proportion by most yuppy types and the younger generations. Let the suburbs do what they do and live where you want to live. The nature of people obviously show some sort of liking to suburbs since so many people live there. To say that it's good that suburb growth is slow or by your standards, non-existant, is narrow minded in my opinion.

Of course I like some density in the anchor city and especially in the downtown areas though, please, don't get me wrong.

but suburbs are not what's right. obviously the health of oklahoma city is more important to central oklahoma than the health of choctaw or moore or whatever burb. but moore is leaching health away from okc. suburbs are short-sightedly taking a paycheck today at the risk of a bigger price tomorrow, and they drag the main city along with them the entire time. it's not what's right.

furthermore, you say let suburbs be as if they're under fire. newsflash: suburbia is not under fire in oklahoma. the inner city is under fire, however.

Also, in terms of the overwhelming new trend of being evironmentally-friendly, suburbs are an incredibly unhealthy toll on local environments. The cumulative presence of relentless human sprawl is eating away and destroying our world. It just isn't a smart way for us to live with our world. More compact and urban, energy efficient, infrastructure-laden inner-cities are the new trend.

But I agree that people have the right to live where they want. Problem is, we're at a stage where we need to start changing our old habits and invest in smarter and greener technologies for the benefit of our world. Suburbia needs to adapt to this new trend as inner-cities and urban areas are.

How many workforce housing building/projects are in OKC? I know one of the main excuses for living in the suburbs are the cheaper prices compared to living in the cities. Workforce housing developments make it cheaper for families to live within city limits and some of the units I have seen are to par with more expensive condo and apartment units. I guess another argument is having a backyard to have all by your self, but I personally could live without a backyard to water, mow, and clean up every two or three weeks.

We have a apartment project under construction right now with units renting out for $385. In the city, walking distance to our High Speed Rail station, in a area where future developments will occur w/ the HSR station, walking distance to the U/C Encore project that will redevelop the park on the land, and the apartment project is also coming with a community center. For $385, seems pretty reasonable to me.

I think if OKC wants to control sprawl and work against it, you guys need to incorporate more workforce housing developments into the construction of other residential projects like condo projects with $300,000+ units and apartment projects where the cheapest unit cost $1200.

http://www.okc.gov/planning/coretoshore/images/redevconcept.jpg

I have just recently looked further into the Core 2 Shore design and have this question. Why isn't Central Park being built over the new I-40 to connect to the southern portion? Was cost an issue? Why isn't any cap being built to connect the Northern and Southern portions?

It seems to defeat the purpose of connecting the city with the river by leaving an exposed freeway canyon in the heart of it.

I have just recently looked further into the Core 2 Shore design and have this question. Why isn't Central Park being built over the new I-40 to connect to the southern portion? Was cost an issue? Why isn't any cap being built to connect the Northern and Southern portions?

It seems to defeat the purpose of connecting the city with the river by leaving an exposed freeway canyon in the heart of it.

The new I-40 is not being burrowed at a depth low enough that the parks on each side of the highway would be flush. Meaning it isn't possible to construct a park/deck extension over the new highway at the same elevation as the land on either side of it.

Would have been nice, though.

The new I-40 is not being burrowed at a depth low enough that the parks on each side of the highway would be flush. Meaning it isn't possible to construct a park/deck extension over the new highway at the same elevation as the land on either side of it.

Would have been nice, though.

Indeed! Could a raised deck with a slight incline in the park elevation in that section have been an option? I just hate the way it looks. Cinicnnati is finally talking about capping the freeway downtown to connect to the River developments. Columbus capped I-670 years ago and it did wonders. I was just a bit shocked that C2S didn't have this integrated in the design and wondered why. It's doesn't make C2S any less appealing but we all know how "shitty" exposed freeway canyons can be. :down:

The reason the highway isn't being deeper as it was supposed to be is due to a water table present. The Core2Shore land falls into historic flood plains from the Oklahoma River. They had to raise the height of the depressed highway to avoid the water table. The Devon tower also encountered the water table during initial constructrion stages.

Devon Tower Jan. 1 2011

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/radargeek/

All of the OKC posters seemed to have vanished. All of the Oklahoma posters in general have seemed to have vanished...

I miss SRG. :(

All of the OKC posters seemed to have vanished. All of the Oklahoma posters in general have seemed to have vanished...

I can hardly blame them for leaving. Everytime an OKC resident evinced pride in his city some miscreant, always hovering nearby, would swoop in to dispaarage the city and tamp down 'boosterism.'

The big update of the week would be Level Urban Apartments, 228 new units announced for Deep Deuce, with ground floor retail including a small grocery. It will be across the street (2nd) from the new Aloft Hotel/Retail development in Deep Deuce. The apartments are breaking ground this month and the hotel later this year.

We are also watching for major residential projects reported to be in the works at a vacant square block at 13th and Walker, an RFP by urban renewal was requested by an urban developer, and several vacant square blocks north of 10th and Broadway, which were cleared in the last two years to make way for a development.

Finally, the downtown Ford Dealership, which is part of a 6-square block property made mostly of surface lots, directly adjacent to our NBA arena, Convention Center, and Park, has been closed in anticipation of a major mixed-use development which may consist of two towers.

Downtown is not slowing down by any means.

LEVEL URBAN

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ALOFT

http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/980279/medium

I've gotten the impression that the streetcar is majorly bogged down though.

I've gotten the impression that the streetcar is majorly bogged down though.

There is one councilman saying the money would be better spent on buses, and it's making a big scene. The planning is still full steam ahead I would say there is 0% chance that a streetcar will not happen. Funding is in place and routes are being analyzed every day. The only impact the fuss might make is that the first streetcar phase may include a leg into at least one neighborhood outside of downtown, instead of just connecting downtown/Midtown- which isn't really such a bad thing at all.

There is one councilman saying the money would be better spent on buses, and it's making a big scene. The planning is still full steam ahead I would say there is 0% chance that a streetcar will not happen. Funding is in place and routes are being analyzed every day. The only impact the fuss might make is that the first streetcar phase may include a leg into at least one neighborhood outside of downtown, instead of just connecting downtown/Midtown- which isn't really such a bad thing at all.

Sounds good. Any guesses as to the timeline on this ?

That's good to hear that a grocery store is going in the Deep Deuce. They need a few more sprinkled more westward throughout downtown now. And do please keep an eye on the 6 blocks that Ford used to own, prime property and would seem ideal for mix use towers of some sort.

And regarding SRG, I just find it silly to ban one of the most senior members who contributed so much, not only for his own city and state but for all over the south in general. And I know I'm not the only one who believes so.

Construction rapidly underway at LEVEL apartments in Maywood. Casey Cornett's photo from flickr.

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And new renderings

http://www.ahmm.co.uk/resources/res.aspx?p=/FCF175F18A83EC9F832D303E3393C083C234259939195E30A250B1978A4EF8C1/THA2010_AHMM_MAYWOOD%20PARK_Retail%20View%20copy.jpg

http://www.ahmm.co.uk/resources/res.aspx?p=/FCF175F18A83EC9F832D303E3393C083C234259939195E306C6A9A2607C42BA8/THA2010_AHMM_MAYWOOD%20PARK_East%20View%20copy.jpg

They're going to build a tram in OKC? That's awesome. What kind of design are they looking at? One of my favorite modern designs is the Nottingham Tram.

They're going to build a tram in OKC? That's awesome. What kind of design are they looking at? One of my favorite modern designs is the Nottingham Tram.


The tram or downtown light rail is in it's earliest stages of planning so no one really knows what there looking at. But it would be great if it was some thing similar to the Nottingham Tram. But hey I'll post some news if I find out any thing about the new lrt. The only thing I could find is on this site.


http://www.letstalktransit.com/

The tram or downtown light rail is in it's earliest stages of planning so no one really knows what there looking at. But it would be great if it was some thing similar to the Nottingham Tram. But hey I'll post some news if I find out any thing about the new lrt.
This is great news hope all goes well.


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http://newsok.com/new-apartment-complex-proposed-for-oklahoma-citys-deep-deuce/article/3541208?custom_click=lead_story_title

Another 140 units planned for Deep Deuce, completing one more block in the neighborhood. It will have structured parking beneath the apartments, basically looking at a 4-5 story building built into a sloped hill. Developer is the same as this similar project two blocks south which was for-sale instead of rental, so it could look something like this:

Photo from Flickr, Michael.Daniel
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3532/4030607863_4d973ec41c.jpg

I also like this map, made by Pete at OKCTalk. It shows residential construction in Deep Deuce since 2000, with blue being completed and yellow under construction or proposed. Basically, land that was a bunch of parking lots and vacant urban prairies in 1999 is now the most populous and dense urban neighborhood in the city.

http://www.tnttri.com/OKCTalk/deepdeuce2.jpg

Good to see more infill for OKC... btw new renderings for the Aloft Hotel

http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/files/2011/02/aloft1.jpg

http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/files/2011/02/aloft2.jpg

http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2011/02/16/new-aloft-hotel-renderings/

Tulsa just finished an Aloft Hotel this past year or so, right off of 71st street. Pretty neat to look at, it's different from the typical cookie cutter hotel.

It looks like the one from the domain here in Austin.

The Aloft looks a lot like some other Aloft models, but it was done by a local architecture firm which is pretty interesting for a chain hotel.

The tram or downtown light rail is in it's earliest stages of planning so no one really knows what there looking at. But it would be great if it was some thing similar to the Nottingham Tram. But hey I'll post some news if I find out any thing about the new lrt. The only thing I could find is on this site.


http://www.letstalktransit.com/

it's a little further along than the earliest stages of planning. and "let's talk transit" is not really one of the good sources for information on the project. a clear distinction between this is that it's already funded. it's not a vision that would be nice if it came true, a lot of cities have that. this is a year out from breaking ground.

it's just right now nobody seems to know where the route will be, just because it's being hotly debated. they'll need to figure things out pretty quickly.

And regarding SRG, I just find it silly to ban one of the most senior members who contributed so much, not only for his own city and state but for all over the south in general. And I know I'm not the only one who believes so.

i guess he just replied to the wrong troll on here. i used to never really post on here because there was nothing but trolling going on anytime okc was the focus of a thread.

i guess he just replied to the wrong troll on here. i used to never really post on here because there was nothing but trolling going on anytime okc was the focus of a thread.

I myself took a hiatus for months when the economy tanked and people from Louisiana and Florida wouldn't stop bashing Oklahoma development. I've noticed that a lot of them are gone now, hopefully they don't come back. May sound harsh but they really contributed nothing and made the OK posters' lives a living Hell on here.

Hey, I'm a Florida guy and I was probably the biggest non-Okie booster around here. I left because the mods seemed indifferent to the mindless OKC-bashing that every new announcement seemed to illicit. Never seen anything like it on SSC.

I myself took a hiatus for months when the economy tanked and people from Louisiana and Florida wouldn't stop bashing Oklahoma development. I've noticed that a lot of them are gone now, hopefully they don't come back. May sound harsh but they really contributed nothing and made the OK posters' lives a living Hell on here.

well first of all, it isn't like i haven't disagreed with you before, or found you a little too dogmatic conservative at many times. i hope it didn't bother you as much as those users did. second of all, they were just trolls, man. srg trolled them back and got banned, so don't do that. don't fuel a personal vendetta against someone who could care less. just ignore them and let them move on to troll another board. people on the internet get too emotional.

well first of all, it isn't like i haven't disagreed with you before, or found you a little too dogmatic conservative at many times. i hope it didn't bother you as much as those users did. second of all, they were just trolls, man. srg trolled them back and got banned, so don't do that. don't fuel a personal vendetta against someone who could care less. just ignore them and let them move on to troll another board. people on the internet get too emotional.

SRG loved to stir up trouble and then play the victim role. He had very poor people skills. It was hard not to google a ridiculous or overly exaggerated statement just to prove someone wrong.

Believe it or not but the trolling against OKC had much more to due with SRG than OKC itself. I think one can easily see that now.

Hey, I'm a Florida guy and I was probably the biggest non-Okie booster around here. I left because the mods seemed indifferent to the mindless OKC-bashing that every new announcement seemed to illicit. Never seen anything like it on SSC.

Dale, Dale, Dale. Surely, at least I hope, you know that I wouldn't ever include you in such a list. I was a little broad by saying LA and FL posters (after all, there were so many more from different places), but you of all have been greatly productive and fairly unbiased. I think most of us have taken a hiatus at some point because the forum lost it's luster. Too much nonsense going on.

well first of all, it isn't like i haven't disagreed with you before, or found you a little too dogmatic conservative at many times. i hope it didn't bother you as much as those users did. second of all, they were just trolls, man. srg trolled them back and got banned, so don't do that. don't fuel a personal vendetta against someone who could care less. just ignore them and let them move on to troll another board. people on the internet get too emotional.

We certainly have had our disagreements and that is completely fine with me. I just hope that at the end of the day we can find something in common and respect each others' views. Our nation has become too polarized and people are forgetting that we are all American, whether you like it or not.

I suppose we could try to lobby to bring SRG back. Don't know how much good it will do.

Hey, I'm a Florida guy and I was probably the biggest non-Okie booster around here. I left because the mods seemed indifferent to the mindless OKC-bashing that every new announcement seemed to illicit. Never seen anything like it on SSC.

This mod has a very serious problem with OKC or any other kind of bashing. Just so y'all know. ;)

This mod has a very serious problem with OKC or any other kind of bashing. Just so y'all know. ;)

There's a new sheriff in town! :banana:

There's a new sheriff in town! :banana:

:bowtie:

SRG loved to stir up trouble and then play the victim role. He had very poor people skills. It was hard not to google a ridiculous or overly exaggerated statement just to prove someone wrong.

Believe it or not but the trolling against OKC had much more to due with SRG than OKC itself. I think one can easily see that now.

i think the only valid question is why you were not banned?

anyway let's get back on topic here.

This mod has a very serious problem with OKC or any other kind of bashing. Just so y'all know. ;)

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New I-40 construction pics at Western Avenue bridge, courtesy of earlywinegareth on OKCTALK:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/earlywinegareth/sets/72157626157368471/

Let's get some more discussion on here!

JOBS

- Continental Resources (CLR) announced the relocation of its corporate headquarters to downtown Oklahoma City yesterday. They will move 250 of its 500 employees in to the 19-story Mid-America tower (which they purchased from Devon) by 2012 and then triple in size (to 1,500 employees) by 2015.

- This is in addition to Boeing's move of 550 engineering jobs to Oklahoma City, for which they are building an additional 320,000 sf building on their campus near Tinker Air Force Base.

- Economic development officials have indicated they have not yet concluded all the negotiations they are in

Check out these recent boathouse district progress photos, with Devon Boathouse completed and the Chesapeake Finish Line Tower almost done! From the Boathouse Foundation blog.

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OKC is on a roll... that Boathouse is gorgeous:)

OKC is on a roll... that Boathouse is gorgeous:)

^^I know right!just fifteen years ago it looked like OKC had dropped off from The face of The Earth!

Absolutely gorgeous, nothing else can be said.

Great update, thanks Shane.

Chart is color coded. Each color repeats numbers over.
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Am I the only one who thinks the finish line tower looks terrible? I love the boathouse but the tower looks like something straight from sketchup. Also, I thought the Aloft in OKC was supposed to be original? At least the early renders made it seem like it was. Those final renders make it look like they still went with a more cookie cutter design. It definitely borrows the language of the original, and I think it looks good, but Im still dissapointed. Better looking than the Tulsa one atleast.

I personally much prefer the Aloft redesign.

Am I the only one who thinks the finish line tower looks terrible? I love the boathouse but the tower looks like something straight from sketchup. Also, I thought the Aloft in OKC was supposed to be original? At least the early renders made it seem like it was. Those final renders make it look like they still went with a more cookie cutter design. It definitely borrows the language of the original, and I think it looks good, but Im still dissapointed. Better looking than the Tulsa one atleast.

^^which boathouse do you like?There are two built and two more to go as well as a whitewater rafting course and grandstands/lighting!

^^which boathouse do you like?There are two built and two more to go as well as a whitewater rafting course and grandstands/lighting!

I thin he's talking about the "Finish Line" tower, which I have to agree is very "plain" looking. But still cool.

Although, let's keep in mind that this is a finish line tower, nothing else. Still better than nothing.

I thin he's talking about the "Finish Line" tower, which I have to agree is very "plain" looking. But still cool.

Although, let's keep in mind that this is a finish line tower, nothing else. Still better than nothing.

^^Going off his second sentence,Said he loved the boathouse and I asked which one.I agree about the finish line tower,it sure looks awesome at night though!

The Chesapeake boat house, the Devon one looks like a car dealership. Im hoping someday we'll get decent modern architecture in the state.

The Chesapeake boat house, the Devon one looks like a car dealership. Im hoping someday we'll get decent modern architecture in the state.

Oh, jeez.

Devon boathouse looks pretty modern to me

Wow. Devon Boathouse looks like a car dealership? Oklahoma doesn't have decent modern architecture? Some people are so funny. Anyways, here's a couple more graphic updates to go along with the development map.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6276/sandridgecommons.png

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1492/devontower.png

Haha, yeah I am hilarious because I'm stating the truth. Name some good modern architecture in the state. Pelli's BOK Center? Maybe. FLW's Price Tower? Hahaha. The Hadid expansion might count, but it will never be built. Oklahoma is full of just boring vernacular architecture. Just look at DT OKC. You can't honestly say that the concrete boxes are aesthetically pleasing. Yeah the Devon Tower looks great, but put it in Chicago and it would never stand out among towers like the Aqua or the new Trump. There's just not much great architecture here. I will concede that there is good architecture, but not great, world class architecture around. I mean the Bauhaus looks more modern than most of our buildings in the state. I really don't want to derail the thread though so Ill stop here.

So someone mentioned in the Devon HQ thread that there are already rumors that another tower is going to be built or at least announced soon? What's that about?

And is there anymore speculation that Devon Tower may be more than 850 feet after all?

Haha, yeah I am hilarious because I'm stating the truth. Name some good modern architecture in the state. Pelli's BOK Center? Maybe. FLW's Price Tower? Hahaha. The Hadid expansion might count, but it will never be built. Oklahoma is full of just boring vernacular architecture. Just look at DT OKC. You can't honestly say that the concrete boxes are aesthetically pleasing. Yeah the Devon Tower looks great, but put it in Chicago and it would never stand out among towers like the Aqua or the new Trump. There's just not much great architecture here. I will concede that there is good architecture, but not great, world class architecture around. I mean the Bauhaus looks more modern than most of our buildings in the state. I really don't want to derail the thread though so Ill stop here.

Devon Tower is better than Aqua, IMO. Have some damned Okie pride. :bash:

You're not telling the truth. You're just straining to be more-discriminating-than-thou.

Streetcar news, anyone ?

Devon Tower is better than Aqua, IMO. Have some damned Okie pride. :bash:

You're not telling the truth. You're just straining to be more-discriminating-than-thou.

Alright if Im lying then name all the great modern architecture works in the state. Name all the Hadid, Foster, Koolhaas, Morphosis, Piano, Rogers, Libeskind, Herzog & de Meuron, Kuma, Ito, Ingels, etc. Those are just few world renowned architects or firms that are doing some amazing stuff right now. Instead we'll be stuck with crap from HKS. The new pedestrian bridge over the I-40 will be pretty nice, and not to offend Butzer, but Dallas is getting a Calatrava bridge for their little creek. The closest thing we have like I said is the BOK Center, yet it is still highly criticized architecturally. Please, name all the famous works of modern architecture since you think Im lying.
As for okie pride? I love all the art deco stuff, some of the works by Bruce Goff are just amazing. Too bad some people are blind to the sever dearth of anything besides that.

As for the whole new tower in DT, apparently the rumor came from a construction worker on the Devon Tower, so take that as you will.

Alright if Im lying then name all the great modern architecture works in the state. Name all the Hadid, Foster, Koolhaas, Morphosis, Piano, Rogers, Libeskind, Herzog & de Meuron, Kuma, Ito, Ingels, etc. Those are just few world renowned architects or firms that are doing some amazing stuff right now. Instead we'll be stuck with crap from HKS. The new pedestrian bridge over the I-40 will be pretty nice, and not to offend Butzer, but Dallas is getting a Calatrava bridge for their little creek. The closest thing we have like I said is the BOK Center, yet it is still highly criticized architecturally. Please, name all the famous works of modern architecture since you think Im lying.
As for okie pride? I love all the art deco stuff, some of the works by Bruce Goff are just amazing. Too bad some people are blind to the sever dearth of anything besides that.

As for the whole new tower in DT, apparently the rumor came from a construction worker on the Devon Tower, so take that as you will.

Oh please. All that fabulous starchitecture you're squawking about? There's tons of it in Spain and they ran themselves broke building that crap. Chances are, they will be spending the next 400 years paying for that junk like they did the last time they blew everything they had on fancy castles!

Streetcar news, anyone ?


Modern streetcar/transit hub

Budget: $130 million

Construction: Procurement and construction of phase 1 from mid-2013 to early 2016; Construction of hub and phase 2 from mid-2016 to mid-2018



Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-council-hears-maps-3-timeline/article/3553618#ixzz1Prfaytco

Modern streetcar/transit hub

Budget: $130 million

Construction: Procurement and construction of phase 1 from mid-2013 to early 2016; Construction of hub and phase 2 from mid-2016 to mid-2018



Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-council-hears-maps-3-timeline/article/3553618#ixzz1Prfaytco

Okay, that's better than I thought. Initially I was hearing 2020 and beyond. :ohno:

Okay, that's better than I thought. Initially I was hearing 2020 and beyond. :ohno:

^^Well this article was from 3 months ago and this was only a proposed timeline,not concrete!Might be 2020?

^^Well this article was from 3 months ago and this was only a proposed timeline,not concrete!Might be 2020?

As far as I can recall, the 2020 was very early talk. I THINK (could be wrong) that the timeline you posted is more recent. At least I'm hoping that's the case.

250 new apartments and 8200 sf of retail for Midtown.

http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/1448398/gallery_large?recordView=0

250 new apartments and 8200 sf of retail for Midtown.

http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/1448398/gallery_large?recordView=0

^^What's your take on this project?I hope it doesnt turn into another Legacy type looking development!

Fellow Okie's unite to bring back SRG!http://www.skyscrapercity.com/group.php?groupid=1290

He's jivin' again. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=18268

Please refrain from discussing a forumer's status openly. Now back to the topic at hand...




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He's jivin' again. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=18268

Please refrain from discussing a forumer's status openly. Now back to the topic at hand...




:)

What are you talking about? We have no recollection of ever starting a public group to bring him back...

New photos from LevelOKC.com of their 4-story, 230-unit apartment building. Groundwork is ready to begin across the street from this project on an 8-story Aloft hotel.

http://www.levelokc.com/sites/default/files/LEVELpanorama.jpg

I thought the aLoft was six stories.

I thought the aLoft was six stories.

Split the difference, 7 floors?

http://www.taparchitecture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/aloft-for-website3.jpg

The Area under the roof is not a floor of the building, it's just the top of the building. :)

I'm really digging the redesign.

The Area under the roof is not a floor of the building, it's just the top of the building. :)

Your right!6 stories with open terrace!

Rumors floating around about Sandridge possibly building a 400ft tower!Weird there current tower is 393'ft tall?

Rumors floating around about Sandridge possibly building a 400ft tower!Weird there current tower is 393'ft tall?

Well, I was wondering about that. If they're in expansion mode, as it appears they are, why build a 20-story tower ? Why not just build a fricking new tower and use the other one for overflow ?

Well, I was wondering about that. If they're in expansion mode, as it appears they are, why build a 20-story tower ? Why not just build a fricking new tower and use the other one for overflow ?

Sandridge is playing difficult it seems.

I'm just wondering why in the H*** build a tower the same height as your current one?Why put workers in two towers,instead of consolidating into one tower and selling off your current one like Devon!

I'm just wondering why in the H*** build a tower the same height as your current one?Why put workers in two towers,instead of consolidating into one tower and selling off your current one like Devon!

Notice how Sandridge is leaving space with their big "park"? So it does seem that they are leaving themselves room for another building on top of the ones they are renovating and building.

I'm just wondering why in the H*** build a tower the same height as your current one?Why put workers in two towers,instead of consolidating into one tower and selling off your current one like Devon!

I take your point. And maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part, but remember that Devon started out at 37 stories and then got taller and taller.

Make that another 400 employees moving to the CBD from the suburbs.

http://newsok.com/enogex-moving-to-downtown-oklahoma-city/article/3582207?custom_click=lead_story_title

Here we go.

Make that another 400 employees moving to the CBD from the suburbs.

http://newsok.com/enogex-moving-to-downtown-oklahoma-city/article/3582207?custom_click=lead_story_title

^^Shane,you think with all these new workers coming to downtown(CR and Enogex)along with exsisting companies like Devon,Sandridge and others that there will be a near future need for a residential highrise?What's your take on the possible demolition of the Stage center?http://newsok.com/stage-center-may-close-its-curtains-shy-of-40th-anniversary/article/3582398

Went over to OKCTALK, and unless I'm missing something, the 20-story tower for Sandridge is the likely scenario and 400' was just someone's wishful thinking.

Still, sounds like they're going to get the tower finished in three years.

To preserve or to demolish The Stage Center?Prime real estate right next to Devon,Myriad Gardens,future dt school,future convention center and Hotel and close to the Cox cc and OKC Arena!I would like to see it undergo renovations and survive but this is some juicy property!http://newsok.com/stage-center-may-close-its-curtains-shy-of-40th-anniversary/article/3582398

Can the relocation of the Crosstown Expressway result in a slight extension of Oklahoma City's Central Business District?

Can the relocation of the Crosstown Expressway result in a slight extension of Oklahoma City's Central Business District?

^^Yes,The Master plan is called Core to Shore.The current I-40 will be torn down once the new I-40 is done in 2012 and will be replaced with a new grand boulevard,The MapsIII Central Park will be in the area and follow all the way down to the new Boathouse Row!All told this will expand OKC's cbd over 750 acres!http://www.okc.gov/planning/coretoshore/index.html

I'm just wondering why in the H*** build a tower the same height as your current one?Why put workers in two towers,instead of consolidating into one tower and selling off your current one like Devon!

To build back street level density.

To build back street level density.

... if for no other reason than to pacify OKC's annoying, reflexive critics.

To build back street level density.

^^I agree that bringing back the density is great but do you actually believe a Multi-Billion dollar company really cares about a cities density?

^^I agree that bringing back the density is great but do you actually believe a Multi-Billion dollar company really cares about a cities density?

After the flack that they took from the preservationists, perhaps. However, I think Sandridge really just believes that they will expand that much in the next five years to need the space.

By most accounts they will. Seems like despite all the whining and squawking they knew best all along.

There seem to be a couple of cooler heads on OKCTalk. Aside from that, there's a lot of rage and teeth-gnashing and fist-shaking.

Congrats OKC. My city is pretty dormant with no new towers anywhere on the horizon.

The new D tower is looking good, I wish we had a scraper going up like that one!

It does seem to overly dominate the rest of the skyline and looks a bit... out of place? Continued aggressive investment growth should fill in any gap(s) soon.

Congrats OKC. My city is pretty dormant with no new towers anywhere on the horizon.

The new D tower is looking good, I wish we had a scraper going up like that one!

It does seem to overly dominate the rest of the skyline and looks a bit... out of place? Continued aggressive investment growth should fill in any gap(s) soon.

Steve, where do you live ?

^ Kansas City Missouri

so what happened to the I-40 bridge? I saw its now trussed because of some ODOT nonsense. Are they keeping the Hans design or going with something else? I remembered it looked pretty sweet when he showed it off at a lecture.

so what happened to the I-40 bridge? I saw its now trussed because of some ODOT nonsense. Are they keeping the Hans design or going with something else? I remembered it looked pretty sweet when he showed it off at a lecture.

^^It will be a watered down version of the original,but I still think it looks nice!http://<object width="640" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WgFqIai2Yjg&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WgFqIai2Yjg&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></embed></object>

I try my best to stay away from OKCTalk. There are no shortage of people over there who will not be happy with anything.

Can one of the OKCers post a pic of the Ford Center renovations? I see the video board is being put up, what about the new entrance?

Dale I try my best to stay away from OKCTalk. There are no shortage of people over there who will not be happy with anything.

Lol.. try talking on city data, one disagrement from anyone ends in a city vs city showdown... I can understand people wanting to defend there city but there is a limit.

Where have all the OKCers gone?

Anyway, I was looking at some recent pics on OKC Talk and really looked and all downtown OKC needs now is something in the 600-750 range to help with the overall appearance.

This has been debated, blah, blah, blah, but really, this tower is so freakin' massive... I really think just another solid tower taller than the Chase will help with the overall appearance and really make downtown cluster.

The scuttlebutt on OKC today is that the new Sandridge tower will be 'more than 20 stories.' So, given today's floor-to-ceiling heights, as few as 25 stories could make it taller than the existing tower.

I'm still hoping they're low-balling and it'll wind up being 35-40 when all is said and done.

Well, heck, Devon low balled and look what was initially proposed: A 925 foot mammoth. Of course, they downsized, which was probably the smarter thing to do.

I honestly cannot see Sandridge needing that much space anytime soon. I can't remember if it's been discussed or not, but do they have they entire Kerr McGee building? And with their remodeling and building of a couple low and mid rise buildings, anything more than 20 stories would be crazy. They would know something the public obviously doesn't know.

And when is Sandridge planning to announced? The next few years?

The Ford Center has been renamed "The Chesapeake Energy Arena."

Don't know the specs. of the deal.

The Ford Center has been renamed "The Chesapeake Energy Arena."

Don't know the specs. of the deal.

12 year deal and will be 3 million a year plus a 3% increase each year after the first year!

12 year deal and will be 3 million a year plus a 3% increase each year after the first year!

Thanks.

Can one of the OKCers post a pic of the Ford Center renovations? I see the video board is being put up, what about the new entrance?

Ask, and ye shall receive. ......

from Thundercitizen (http://www.okctalk.com/member.php?u=8271), Chesapeake Energy Arena (a.k.a. Ford Center, Oklahoma City Arena)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6848/dsc0623xq.jpg
boarded hoarding in the original facade area

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pylons already in place

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floor scaffolding

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almost ready to pour the floor (hey, that rhymed).

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/8352/dsc0622au.jpg
dodge ram truck, in front of the 'former' Ford Center. ... lol

I know it is not a building but it is recent development, and the Myriad Botanical Gardens has been redeveloped into OKC's premier urban park.

It has been significantly redesigned and includes numerous programming elements including an 'interactive' LED and clear view panels on the Crystal Bridge Conservatory, band shell/great lawn, Children's Interactive Rain Shower attraction, revamped Centre Stage with Stadium Seating, and the lake has been redesigned a bit less 'natural' and more 'urban' yet will still have the rather large KOI (and other species of fish, that were thriving before) among many many other attractions.

See for yourself - I'm telling you, many visits to OKC will be necessary in the next coming years as all of these project finish up. ....

all pics courtesy of Thunder (http://www.okctalk.com/member.php?u=5733)
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Myriad Botanical Gardens is located right downtown. I hear that the LED Nightime Lighting Shows of the Crystal Bridge Conservatory can be coordinated with the LED Lighting of the very nearby Devon Tower.

Thank you, Hot Rod.

What is the timeline on the arena renovations? Will they have every phase completed by the end of this year?

Thank you, Hot Rod.

What is the timeline on the arena renovations? Will they have every phase completed by the end of this year?

^^Thats the plan to have everything done by the upcoming season if there is one!I'm a little skeptical,I think this will take a little longer than 2-3 more months!

^^Thats the plan to have everything done by the upcoming season if there is one!I'm a little skeptical,I think this will take a little longer than 2-3 more months!

They have a little bit of work ahead of them, that's for sure.

Energy job market heating up in Oklahoma City
The continued growth of energy companies in Oklahoma City — and the pending move of Continental Resources Inc. from Enid — are driving increased competition for industry professionals in the job market

BY JAY F. MARKS

...His Enid-based company is poised to move into downtown Oklahoma City next year as Continental continues to move toward its stated goal of tripling in size by 2014.
Hamm said Continental has something unique to offer to Oklahoma City.
“We chose Oklahoma City because while it is home to numerous successful natural gas companies, Continental brings diversity to that group because we are an oil company,” he wrote in an Aug. 2 post on his CEO Insights blog. “Our production and reserves are about 75 percent oil and we represent a new opportunity for industry professionals.”
The presence of another big energy company in Oklahoma City is expected to increase the number of industry professionals who choose to live here.
“It is fast becoming the place to be,” Continental President Jeff Hume said...


Link: http://newsok.com/energy-job-market-heating-up-in-oklahoma-city/article/3592382#ixzz1UMERSQ4i

12 year deal and will be 3 million a year plus a 3% increase each year after the first year!

Might the future plans of the NBA Thunder be to stop off in Oklahoma City for a few years before moving further south to make their permanent home in Fort Worth? I can see the move to Oklahoma City as a way of building a fan base who can commute down I-35 one day to watch them play in Fort Worth. According to many, the area of Dallas - Fort Worth is supposed to be larger than the metropolitan area of Chicago in population by the year 2030. If the Mavs choose to remain in central Dallas, that would leave a vacuum in the Fort Worth area which, by then, would be a much larger market than Oklahoma City. The reasoning being that people from the Fort Worth area would be less likely to drive the 120 miles to watch the Thunder play a game than vice versa. I could be wrong.
Has there been any talk of this potentially happening in the future from the Oklahoma City press?

Might the future plans of the NBA Thunder be to stop off in Oklahoma City for a few years before moving further south to make their permanent home in Fort Worth? I can see the move to Oklahoma City as a way of building a fan base who can commute down I-35 one day to watch them play in Fort Worth. According to many, the area of Dallas - Fort Worth is supposed to be larger than the metropolitan area of Chicago in population by the year 2030. If the Mavs choose to remain in central Dallas, that would leave a vacuum in the Fort Worth area which, by then, would be a much larger market than Oklahoma City. The reasoning being that people from the Fort Worth area would be less likely to drive the 120 miles to watch the Thunder play a game than vice versa. I could be wrong.
Has there been any talk of this potentially happening in the future from the Oklahoma City press?

Wow,this comments out of Left field and NO,I've never heard such crap!The ownership group is from Oklahoma City and they have invested to much into this team and the city has invested over a hundred million$ on this team!This team isnt going anywhere,Sorry Fort Worth not gonna happen!

Mister Niffty,Do you have a Link?or is this just your opinion or are you just trying to Troll a board?

Mister Niffty,Do you have a Link?or is this just your opinion or are you just trying to Troll a board?
Just his opinion. He/she isn't a troll, I just think they just want more things for their region. Since I'm guessing Nifty lives in the Dallas/Ft.Worth area.

About 140 more affordable rental units with underground parking at 4th and Oklahoma in Deep Deuce, breaking ground this fall. A second phase on the adjacent block will also begin planning when this project starts construction.

photo from NewsOK
http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/1483486/gallery_large

^^ Good photo.

Would look better with a nice and sleek 450-600 foot residential tower.

From A Downtown On The Range (http://downtownontherange.blogspot.com/2011/08/hideaway-opening.html): ;)

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I don't mean this as a put-down but i just have to say that i giggle a little bit every time someone refers to "Deep Duece" :)

I don't mean this as a put-down but i just have to say that i giggle a little bit every time someone refers to "Deep Duece" :)

:lol:
I think most people do.

Childish giggles be damned,this area of OKC is rapidly becoming the city's only true urban neighborhood with ton's of new development including a new dt grocery store,hundreds upon hundreds of residential units,new hotels,and a future streetcar route will run through this area.

Cool view from okctalk's Pete of construction projects in Deep Deuce, Level Apartments progressing rapidly and Aloft Hotel breaking ground across the street. Can also see the rooftop penthouse and pool being constructed on the historic building in the lower left.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/level81611a.jpg

Our river circa 1990s

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Believe it or not, this is the same geographic place. I'm not sure if it's still the same city.

Images from Boathouse District Development Blog (sorry about size)

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Fabulous.

Thanks for postin' that Shane!Yea,this area will only get better as there will be new grandstands,lighting,windscreens,two new boathouses,whitewater course and some small tram that carries traffic back and forth!The Boathouse row and Deep Duece are my two most favorite areas in OKC right now!

possible plans to extend the Bricktown canal South to the Oklahoma River(boathouse row)!http://okc.gov/AgendaPub/meet.aspx

I'm sure you know this already Dmoor, but, just to be technical for out of state folks, it would extend the river north to almost touch the Canal (elevation and water differences prohibiting an actual connection).

I'm sure you know this already Dmoor, but, just to be technical for out of state folks, it would extend the river north to almost touch the Canal (elevation and water differences prohibiting an actual connection).

^^Yes,your exactly right,the elevation grades are to different!I wasnt trying to say that they would feed into each other ofcourse!

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That cladding on the Devon Tower is just :drool:

Devon Tower would KILL in any other city! OKC hit a towering home run...literally! :cheers:

^^

It looks like it would fit perfectly in Dallas.

Now, this is OKC's tower, and it looks great in OKC. I'm just throwing that statement out there because it would match and blend so well in Dallas. Honest truth.

Level Urban Apartments construction courtesy of Casey Cornett:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWpgmLTfaE&feature=youtu.be

The moment has arrived:

Devon Tower Officially Tops Out As OKC's Tallest Building (I assume they mean Oklahoma's tallest, fire them editors!)
Over the past two years, the Devon Tower has grown from a concrete slab to the city's tallest building. On Wednesday the construction project reached a milestone with the traditional topping out ceremony.
The tree topping ceremony is one of the major events in the construction of a skyscraper. It dates back hundreds of years to an old Nordic tradition. The evergreen which sits atop the Devon Tower started out as a sapling here in Oklahoma a couple of years ago. Now it stands as a beacon, 850 feet in the air, on Oklahoma's tallest building.

More: http://www.newson6.com/story/15519863/devon-tower-tops-out-as-okcs-tallest-building

Couldn't resist posting on the Oklahoman today. There is a dour article about the state of public transit in OKC. Mayor Cornett laments that OKC is a product of its own success due to the efficiency of its highway system and lack of congestion and short commuting times.

Such a problem to have!

City to vote on new $50-million facilities

http://www.kfor.com/videobeta/7c5c35b2-d5fb-44a6-aa09-414b834b4f80/News/City-to-Vote-on-New-50-Million-Buildings (Video)

Jesse Wells Reporting

KFOR-TV

12:00 a.m. CDT, October 4, 2011
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Leaders in Oklahoma City face a multi-million dollar decision this week. A new study recommends building a brand new police headquarters downtown. The plans for a new police station and municipal court building, costing at least $50 million, is up for discussion at city council Tuesday.

The city council has three options to consider:

Renovate the current police headquarters and the municipal court building
Build two new buildings
Do a mix of the two
At this point, it's not a question of whether the changes will happen, but how.

Sagging ceiling tiles, antiquated electrical lines, Oklahoma City's police department is plagued with problems.

"Both police and courts have outgrown their facilities. The facilities are quite old," OKC Assistant City Manager MT Berry said.

The municipal courts building, built in 1951, shares many of the same problems.

The adjoining old city jail is even worse; some broken windows are simply boarded up.

"All the plumbing, mechanical and electrical in the current facilities are outdated," Berry said.

The leading replacement plan calls for building a new municipal courthouse on a parking lot to the north and constructing a new police department on the lot to the south.


http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-city-to-vote-on-new-50million-facilities-20111003,0,355191.story

^^Yeah it will cost more to renovate than to build new,so bet on this happening!

City to vote on new $50-million facilities

http://www.kfor.com/videobeta/7c5c35b2-d5fb-44a6-aa09-414b834b4f80/News/City-to-Vote-on-New-50-Million-Buildings (Video)



http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-city-to-vote-on-new-50million-facilities-20111003,0,355191.story

Cool! :cheers: Hope it passes

Manitopiaaa,

Is your avatar supposed to be Patrick in a Buu outfit?

^^
No, it's a self-portrait. What's a Buu? ;)

^^
No, it's a self-portrait. What's a Buu? ;)


http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/6759/789703-fatbuu_super.jpg

Self portrait, eh?

LEVEL apartments

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^^
Great shots! It's going to be amazing when OKC fully restores the urban fabric with denser development like this.

^^Agreed,and right across the street is an Aloft hotel U/C and there are tons of units going up all around Deep Deuce!

I took some pics of the Skydance bridge being built last month. sorry for the quality all I had was my phone.

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I also got to look through the construction drawings and its confirmed that it wont be smooth like the original plan. to be honest it was really impressive but I hope its not as ugly as the new renderings make it seem. Especially the weird feather nonsense. I went to a Butzer/Gardner lecture a couple of years back and he went into detail about the bridge and how much effort went into the engineering. The original concept and model were so much cleaner and overall better. It will still look pretty cool when driving under but I wish they would have allowed the original design.

Also, I tried to find another OK related development forum to post it but I found nothing. Are there any? because tulsanow is kinda slow and okctalk is borderline insane.

Awesome! Thanks for the photos.

The OKC Development thread hasn't been updated in a while but there certainly has been many developments taking place.

SkyDance Bridge -
Daily Oklahoman Pics
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from SSEiYah
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Wow that's cool!

Just to peruse OKCtalk it seems like MAPS3 is degenerating, that nothing other than the convention center is going to be built in present form.

Lol. That's not true in the least fortunately.

Lol. That's not true in the least fortunately.

Good to know. But there is a lot of pessimism on that site.

Oh hell yes there is Dale. It's very frustrating at times.

LEVEL apartments

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Absolutely beautiful! :banana:

how will the sky dance bridge look once finished?

how will the sky dance bridge look once finished?

The sculptural portion of the bridge was recently completed, including the color-changing LED flood lights. Portions of the new highway will open January 5.

day, by sseiyah, okctalk.com

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night, by okc1987, okctalk.com

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Thanks, Shane.

Does anyone honestly think the "feathers" look good? I personally think they make it look terrible, although when driving under it or just seeing it from far away it will probably blend in more and not look as tacky. Speaking of which the LED lights seriously need to be toned down. Its supposed to be a sculpture not a carnival ride. If the lights just did enough to tone the sculpture and not overwhelm it it would look so much better. Does anyone know why the feathers were added? I know why it couldnt be a suspension bridge, but there shouldnt be any reason for the feathers when it comes to structure. Oh well, it still looks pretty cool though.

Last year Boeing announced that 550 jobs were moving to OKC from Long Beach,CA.Today Boeing announced it will close it's Wichita,KS facility,OKC will gain 800 more jobs from that closure.The remaining jobs will be split between San Antonio and Seattle.http://www.kansas.com/2012/01/04/2162092/boeing-to-close-wichita-plant.html

wow - horrible news for Wichita but incredible news for Oklahoma City. 800 more jobs from Boeing (meaning many more from support companies). ... And it looks like OKC will get the highest paying jobs too (engineering and Program Management)

Actually, since OKC is so close to Wichita, there is a possibility that many ICT employees could keep their homes in Wichita but commute to work in OKC; at least temporarily until they decide to move to OKC or find a new job in ICT.

This will ONLY help increase the bond that OKC and Wichita has/is developing. I know Wichitans support the OKC Thunder and am glad they too will get an annual pre-season game. If only OKC could get another NBA D-League team and put it there, would be a HUGE boon for Wichita.

Wichita can have the Tulsa 66ers. They have basically zero support here. In fact, most people are unaware of their existence. But, I don't see that happening. I'm sure the Thunder want to keep a strong Tulsa tie with their developmental team.

Wichita can have the Tulsa 66ers. They have basically zero support here. In fact, most people are unaware of their existence. But, I don't see that happening. I'm sure the Thunder want to keep a strong Tulsa tie with their developmental team.

Actually, Tulsa probably has more 66ers fans than Thunder fans. Granted, neither have much loyalty in the city since Tulsa doesn't strike me as a sports mentality kind of city. The Thunder could maybe pick up a little support in Tulsa but they've completely dropped the ball on that. Maybe the first step could be crossing out the 'city' in Oklahoma City Thunder? :)

The Thunder will never drop the "city" in it's name!This is the States first team,but first and foremost this is OKLAHOMA CITY's team!When Tulsa eventually someday gets a pro team,no one here in OKC will give a crap if it's called Oklahoma or Tulsa whatevers!

The Thunder will never drop the "city" in it's name!This is the States first team,but first and foremost this is OKLAHOMA CITY's team!When Tulsa eventually someday gets a pro team,no one here in OKC will give a crap if it's called Oklahoma or Tulsa whatevers!

I agree. I don't think the Thunder should change the name to please Tulsa. I don't even think the Thunder should play in Tulsa. It's not our team and we're obviously not interested. The problem I have is with the attempt to market this team as 'Oklahoma's team' while at the same time practically ignoring Tulsa. I have the same problem with the "Oklahoman" newspaper. It tries to brand itself as the newspaper of Oklahoma but no one east of Pawnee even reads it. It's Oklahoma City's newspaper, not Oklahoma's. The Thunder is Oklahoma City's team, not Oklahoma's. Hell, even the State Government is Oklahoma City's government, not Oklahoma's. But that's getting into the same bitter rivalry as to why OKC gets everything from the state congresscritters while Tulsa has to beg for funding crumbs. /endrant :)

I fully support this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Sequoyah

simma down now...

why should tulsa get more than its fair share, when it's evident that investing in tulsa economic development doesn't pay the dividends right now that okc would?

tulsa lost population for the last decade. okc meanwhile added nearly 100,000 people. and while there is some small-scale infill occurring in downtown tulsa, there is just way more of that kind of infill in downtown okc. and then there's the dozen or so major projects that could hardly be called "infill" per se.

okc getting more funding for projects like the i-40 reconstruction is a perfect storm that combines a lot of factors, including the simple fact that okc is booming right now, tulsa is not booming right now, okc was long-overdue on some major projects (like i-40), investing in okc right now creates more economic bang, and because okc is simply getting to be a lot bigger than tulsa.

those are a lot of things that to me, justify getting a larger share of state appropriations, and there's just not a lot that tulsa can do about it, short of encouraging its residents to quickly generate 100,000 offspring (as tulsa won't be adding near that many new residents any other way) and then making sure they don't leave for okc...

simma down now...

why should tulsa get more than its fair share, when it's evident that investing in tulsa economic development doesn't pay the dividends right now that okc would?

tulsa lost population for the last decade. okc meanwhile added nearly 100,000 people. and while there is some small-scale infill occurring in downtown tulsa, there is just way more of that kind of infill in downtown okc. and then there's the dozen or so major projects that could hardly be called "infill" per se.

okc getting more funding for projects like the i-40 reconstruction is a perfect storm that combines a lot of factors, including the simple fact that okc is booming right now, tulsa is not booming right now, okc was long-overdue on some major projects (like i-40), investing in okc right now creates more economic bang, and because okc is simply getting to be a lot bigger than tulsa.

those are a lot of things that to me, justify getting a larger share of state appropriations, and there's just not a lot that tulsa can do about it, short of encouraging its residents to quickly generate 100,000 offspring (as tulsa won't be adding near that many new residents any other way) and then making sure they don't leave for okc...

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

it must be, especially if you're saying anything in my post wasn't 100% true. i think you're better comeback would be more along the lines of "some things are more important than numbers and raw data" or something like that, but if you want to argue the economic numbers, be my guest..

So, let's talk about this rumored 'skyscraper.' I assume its Sandridge. And Steve Lackmeyer says it's a done deal. But does anyone get the idea that it might be significantly taller than previously envisioned ?

So, let's talk about this rumored 'skyscraper.' I assume its Sandridge. And Steve Lackmeyer says it's a done deal. But does anyone get the idea that it might be significantly taller than previously envisioned ?

Steve also said that this "rumored skyscraper" is not Sandridge or the Convention Center Hotel. But an additional one to those 2. Should be exciting!

Steve also said that this "rumored skyscraper" is not Sandridge or the Convention Center Hotel. But an additional one to those 2. Should be exciting!

Okay, that's even better!

it must be, especially if you're saying anything in my post wasn't 100% true. i think you're better comeback would be more along the lines of "some things are more important than numbers and raw data" or something like that, but if you want to argue the economic numbers, be my guest..

Okay then, I'll accept your invitation. It is true that Tulsa lost population over the last decade, but that does not mean that the city is not currently experiencing growth. In the early 2000's, Tulsa lost 10-12,000 citizens by estimate, yet at the last census, the population showed a drop of little more than 1,000 citizens. That means that in less than 10 years, Tulsa grew by about 9-11,000 people. So no, it's not shrinking.

Tulsa is currently experiencing massive growth in the inner city. I don't see how OKC's is far superior. Tulsa has MUCH more than just a few small-scale infill projects underway as you seem to think. Take the 17 story tower currently being built, that will be mostly occupied by Cimarex Energy for example. Tell me how that is small scale. How about the streets lined for several blocks by solid construction in the Brady. How is that small scale?

You obviously have a chip on your shoulder regarding Tulsa. You should wipe it off. I personally like both cities. They are developing largely different personalities, and that's okay. In fact, it's good. You don't have to trash Tulsa in order to boost OKC. It really gets old.

I'm pretty sure this page gets derailed by off topic BS than any other page on this site!

Sorry....

Back to topic: I'm very curious to see what company would be building this skyscraper. I've seen Boeing thrown around but I highly doubt that.

Sorry....

Back to topic: I'm very curious to see what company would be building this skyscraper. I've seen Boeing thrown around but I highly doubt that.

Highly doubt it would be Boeing.... no inside knowledge on this at all but I think educated guesses are... American Fidelity, Continental Resources or Midfirst Bank.

My real hope is that it is either mixed use, a hotel or appartments!

I think Continental building a new tower is plausible.

Read below. Double post >:(

Okay then, I'll accept your invitation. It is true that Tulsa lost population over the last decade, but that does not mean that the city is not currently experiencing growth. In the early 2000's, Tulsa lost 10-12,000 citizens by estimate, yet at the last census, the population showed a drop of little more than 1,000 citizens. That means that in less than 10 years, Tulsa grew by about 9-11,000 people. So no, it's not shrinking.

Tulsa is currently experiencing massive growth in the inner city. I don't see how OKC's is far superior. Tulsa has MUCH more than just a few small-scale infill projects underway as you seem to think. Take the 17 story tower currently being built, that will be mostly occupied by Cimarex Energy for example. Tell me how that is small scale. How about the streets lined for several blocks by solid construction in the Brady. How is that small scale?

You obviously have a chip on your shoulder regarding Tulsa. You should wipe it off. I personally like both cities. They are developing largely different personalities, and that's okay. In fact, it's good. You don't have to trash Tulsa in order to boost OKC. It really gets old.

Not to mention comparing the surrounded-yet-compact Tulsa city proper with Oklahoma City's sprawling 670 miles is like apples to oranges :lol: But I digress, OKC isn't booming because there is more economic bang in developing the city, OKC is booming because it is actively tended to and given preference over Tulsa by the state government. I'm sure if Tulsa got the same attention we would be booming too. Oh wait, we are....and we're doing it on our own. State of Sequoyah 2012!!!

I actually don't mind OKC, I just dislike the feigned apathy given to Tulsa when OKC is treated like the second coming of Tokyo. Tulsa is a gem and as soon as Mary Fallin and the OKC Bureaucrats realize that, the better the state will be.

But yeah......back to the new skyscraper....

^^Bitter much?And your right it is like comparing Apples to Oranges,No doubt!

^^Bitter much?And your right it is like comparing Apples to Oranges,No doubt!

It depends on the day. Sometimes I love OKC and sometimes I loathe it with a passion. Tulsa and OKC have a sibling relationship so that's expected :lol:

OK back to the skyscrapers!I'll make some predictions,the cc hotel wil be 400ft' tall,the Sandridge tower will be 325ft' tall, and I predict the mystery tower will be 650ft' tall!Does all this sound plausible?

I knew about the sandrigde and maybe the hotel but where did the rumors for a new one begin? we haven't heard anything here and its kinda what we deal in.

I knew about the sandrigde and maybe the hotel but where did the rumors for a new one begin? we haven't heard anything here and its kinda what we deal in.

It started a couple of days ago over on OKCTalk,but remember the rumors about Devon back in 2007 and that came true,I'm not saying it will happen but its a possibility!

he was saying residential, though. or at least saying "not to rule it out" wink wink.

as for tulsa, i don't know what to say. i understand wanting to get a good mention on this thread, but to compare them to okc is more than a little off right now.

the current wave of development in okc right now alone will make us an awful lot like austin (easily) or charlotte. there are certain milestones, not to mention sheer volume of smaller infill, that make okc a remarkable city to watch for development, including an awesome new convention center, streetcar system, three amazing new downtown parks (myriad, central park, riverfront), not to mention 1 850 ft skyscraper and potentially 2-4 new skyscrapers.

the two cities just aren't in the same league. if okc really is in store for 2-4 new skyscrapers, that's just catch-up and then some on all these cities that passed us up during the 90s, such as austin and charlotte. i agree that there is this "second coming of tokyo" mentality that is odd, but within context and scale, it's not that far off really.

Oooooh for the Love of Tebow,can we all just get along?Back to topic!

to answer your question dmoore - YES!

Here is a pic from UnFrSaKn (http://www.okctalk.com/member.php?u=5570) that I would like to post showing OKC's amazing renaissance, ground level!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/SandRidge%20Commons/January%202012/IMG_3406.jpg

This pic just so happens to be the Braniff Building being expanded as part of the SandRidge Campus Common project. I just love the way the old building is transfixed with the modern skyscrapers behind. What an urban setting!!!!

So, what's the latest on a possible new tower?

So can the new convention centre for Oklahoma City complement the existing Myriad (Cox) Convention Centre or replace it altogether?

the plan is for the new convention centre to be located at a different area, and for most if not all of the Myriad to be reclaimed and the CBD expanded.

I knew about the sandrigde and maybe the hotel but where did the rumors for a new one begin? we haven't heard anything here and its kinda what we deal in.

Read here...

http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/08/the-skyline-will-grow/

Now I'm on pins and needles about this new tower in OKC!

Now I'm on pins and needles about this new tower in OKC!

The latest rumor is that it's going to be taller than Burj Dubai!

*runs away*

going to visit the skydance on friday. our professor talked to the architects and they said they'll try to get the city to turn on the LEDs but no promises were made. hopefully they do it. ill try to take pics.

The latest rumor is that it's going to be taller than Burj Dubai!

*runs away*

:rofl:

Clear up some confusion for me. I peruse OKCTalk and a couple of weeks ago some Big Will announces that a big company WILL build a tower in OKC.

Now, there is an article that OKC is in the running for a big corporate location.

The former implies accomplished fact. The latter just a possibility. Are we talking possibly TWO new towers here ?

Was Google Earthing around OKC and discovered this:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7356/picture1cwfi.png


What's going on here?

Was Google Earthing around OKC and discovered this:

What's going on here?

Chesapeake Energy's sprawling and ever-growing campus. There is a good deal of retail development around it that they are pushing. They own the buildings that Whole Foods and Anthropologie have recently opened up in, for example.

devon tower is open now. they have this awesome restaurant called nebu on the street level that is open to the public. naturally, nebu has become a big hit. i just came back from spring break and got an amazing chicken and salad for $6.

that was a pleasant surprise with the tower grand opening.

in other news, projects in mid-town are really progressing. i wonder if this is the effect of the pending light rail line.

a city of green rooftop decks? becoming that way:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wnenXovNutk/Tkg7wN4PIeI/AAAAAAAABBU/Tz046uNUuqE/s400/2011-07-28%2B12.27.13.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1201&d=1334078081