I'm just wondering about you want relocating to LA for good reason or something. Please discussion there.

I would probally live in Long Beach.

what idiot wouldn't?

what's the difference between choices 2 and 3 blink?

I'd like to live in Los Angeles but I think there's too traffic and smog! :runaway:

Definately, I think it would be fun for a few years, somewhere in the South west :D

btw blink, whats the difference between options 2 and 3 :?

NEVER!

probably, maybe to visit...

but if I want to live there, I would live in LA's biggest suburb- San diego, ;)

LA is an out and out dump, so no.

NEVER!

Agree!!!! I would never live in USA

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Definitely. There are some really nice areas in Greater LA I'd surely live in. Santa Monica, Downtown LA, and more!

Just visit (I probably have second cousins there, like everywhere else but Europe), I'd rather live in San Fransisco though if I had to choose to live in CA.

I would like to visit but definetely wouldn't want to live there.

sure....LA is like another planet. I hate sprawl but I can tolerate LA's for some reason.

Why so many US haters? I just don't get it. I didn't vote for Bush. Be nice to us as we love your countries.

Why so many US haters? I just don't get it. I didn't vote for Bush. Be nice to us as we love your countries.



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But anyhoo.....I would live there....but I dont want to live there :D


And only in a Mansion.....but there are 100's of other cities on this planet where I would rather live.

Why so many US haters? I just don't get it. I didn't vote for Bush. Be nice to us as we love your countries.
They aren't making anti-American or anti-Bush comments, they are making anti-LA comments.

Anyway, I voted "Yeah, LA rocks" even though I haven't been there yet! lol

Visit maybe, but not live there. The climate would be too hot for me, I need a winter with snow and cold every year. I also don't find the place that interesting.

no LA sucks!

:yes:

LA is an out and out dump, so no.

A dump? Southern California has an amazing array of geographical features. LA in itself has some very beautiful areas, like Santa Monica, Malibu, Beverly Hills, and dozens of other wealthy areas. The city has improved a lot since the 1980's, including many areas. I am sure you can't afford to live in this rich dump.

i suppose if i was PAID to live in LA i would.

I would probally live in Long Beach.

i think that by LA he means like the greater LA area, not just the city

i think that by LA he means like the greater LA area, not just the city

Yea.... :okay:

why wouldn't you want to live here? this place has everything you could ever want and everything you need is at arms length

LA is an "out and out dump"?

I'd definately live in this "dump" before I'd live in London:

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L.A. Rocks!! I would definitely live there! But most of what is exciting about L.A. are the things and places associated with the entertainment industry. If it were not for Hollywood, it wouldn't be that interesting.

The anti-cheesehead, Don't worry so LA isn't dump though.

You guys are sad and pathetic. Los Angeles is an amazing city and you're complaining about sprawl, traffic, pollution.. take a look at where you're living before you judge Los Angeles! No shit it is polluted, it is bordered to the north and west with Beautiful mountains, it is in a very hot and dry location so it doesnt get much precip so that adds to the smog, and it is home to the USA's largest port. Sure there is traffic, but what city in the world doesnt have traffic? I mean come on, if you dont like traffic, dont by a car! But, living in LA it would be hard to get around without one, so that is why so many people own them. Its not there fault there is pollution, you cant really stop sprawl after it has already been developed, you try kicking middle age Mom's and Dad's out of little bungalow's with their son or daughter! Los Angeles is sprawling because its so big! You cant change something like LA, yes it does have its misperfections, but that is what makes it so unique and different from the rest, people in California arent worried about the pollution, the sprawl the what-not, we're more laid back, we dont need people like you telling us what is wrong with our cities and that our cities are dumps because they arent perfect like New York or Paris. Grow up. we like the way we live, respect that.

You guys are sad and pathetic. Los Angeles is an amazing city and you're complaining about sprawl, traffic, pollution.. take a look at where you're living before you judge Los Angeles! No shit it is polluted, it is bordered to the north and west with Beautiful mountains, it is in a very hot and dry location so it doesnt get much precip so that adds to the smog, and it is home to the USA's largest port. Sure there is traffic, but what city in the world doesnt have traffic? I mean come on, if you dont like traffic, dont by a car! But, living in LA it would be hard to get around without one, so that is why so many people own them. Its not there fault there is pollution, you cant really stop sprawl after it has already been developed, you try kicking middle age Mom's and Dad's out of little bungalow's with their son or daughter! Los Angeles is sprawling because its so big! You cant change something like LA, yes it does have its misperfections, but that is what makes it so unique and different from the rest, people in California arent worried about the pollution, the sprawl the what-not, we're more laid back, we dont need people like you telling us what is wrong with our cities and that our cities are dumps because they arent perfect like New York or Paris. Grow up. we like the way we live, respect that.

Agree. LA is growing into more LRT, subway and busway/metro rapid since 1990. Just take easy with bad traffic so you will be fine. LA don't have any policies to control on sprawl but LA can have sprawl if want too. Sprawl in LA is only 45 miles but sprawl in Atlanta is too far away than LA.

The anti-cheesehead, Don't worry so LA isn't dump though.

Oh, I'm not worried. I know LA isn't a dump. There is no way that someone could go to LA and honestly think it is a "dump". The guy from London is just jealous because Britain has nothing that is comparable to LA, or California for that matter.

Whether or not you realize it, you have been to LA at least through movies. Wherever I go in LA I get "deja vu". LA is "deja vu" city. Look, there's the high school from "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" and there is the mall from "Valley Girl". LA always seems strangely familiar for first time visitors as it is ultimately exploited through film. I love LA for being experimental and visual. LA has everything except for a real river. I could live there because it still has a frontier spirit.

You guys are sad and pathetic. Los Angeles is an amazing city and you're complaining about sprawl, traffic, pollution.. take a look at where you're living before you judge Los Angeles! No shit it is polluted, it is bordered to the north and west with Beautiful mountains, it is in a very hot and dry location so it doesnt get much precip so that adds to the smog, and it is home to the USA's largest port. Sure there is traffic, but what city in the world doesnt have traffic? I mean come on, if you dont like traffic, dont by a car! But, living in LA it would be hard to get around without one, so that is why so many people own them. Its not there fault there is pollution, you cant really stop sprawl after it has already been developed, you try kicking middle age Mom's and Dad's out of little bungalow's with their son or daughter! Los Angeles is sprawling because its so big! You cant change something like LA, yes it does have its misperfections, but that is what makes it so unique and different from the rest, people in California arent worried about the pollution, the sprawl the what-not, we're more laid back, we dont need people like you telling us what is wrong with our cities and that our cities are dumps because they arent perfect like New York or Paris. Grow up. we like the way we live, respect that.

Whoo! i couldn't have said it any better myself. :cheers1:

I would live in Southern California for sure, but probably not in LA proper. California is so beautiful, and has the kind of all-season lifestyle that I can appreciate, but for some reason Los Angeles makes me feel sad and lonely. It feels very quiet on the streets because nobody walks anywhere, and if you do walk through the nicer areas, armed private guards in cars stop you to see what you're doing. There are walls everywhere, and the freeways create barriers too. The girls are good-looking though...

It's not that all forumers are anti-American, just that sometimes it can feel as though Americans are oblivious to the fact that other cities around the world do some things much better than the US, like creating urban areas with a more lively sense of community and acceptance.

I would live in Southern California for sure, but probably not in LA proper. California is so beautiful, and has the kind of all-season lifestyle that I can appreciate, but for some reason Los Angeles makes me feel sad and lonely. It feels very quiet on the streets because nobody walks anywhere, and if you do walk through the nicer areas, armed private guards in cars stop you to see what you're doing. There are walls everywhere, and the freeways create barriers too. The girls are good-looking though...

It's not that all forumers are anti-American, just that sometimes it can feel as though Americans are oblivious to the fact that other cities around the world do some things much better than the US, like creating urban areas with a more lively sense of community and acceptance.

Why are you don't want live in LA (city proper)?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. I thought I explained why. Do you disagree with my definition of LA proper?

LA is a great city, but I'd rather visit than live there. I'm happy enough up here in SF.:D Besides, there are a lot more cities I'd like to live in before LA.

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. I thought I explained why. Do you disagree with my definition of LA proper?

Yeah, I disagree. LA city proper is pretty crowded, traffic and urban friendly.

LA is a great city, but I'd rather visit than live there. I'm happy enough up here in SF.:D Besides, there are a lot more cities I'd like to live in before LA.

reasons?

reasons?

I thought I stated my reasons. There are cities above LA on my "Rather Live" list.

I have visited LA a couple of times. the first time we got lost in our brand new rental car in Compton at about 11pm on a saturday night.We stayed in Hollywood Blvd (sorry but Hollywood Blvd is a shit hole).Appart from that we thought LA was quite nice.We liked walking around Beverley Hills and the Hollywood Hills too.But in our oponion we thought NY was heaps better.

when i first moved to los angeles i hated it. i don't think it is a great place for a teenager to get acquainted with the united states. but now as an adult having lived all over the world, i love it. i've lived in downtown los angeles since 1990 (with one short break) and i think that's what has made the difference for me. los angeles is comprised of many neighborhoods and finding one that works for you is critical.

i can contrast and compare to los angeles places such as manila, tokyo, honolulu, san francisco, new york, washington dc, paris, prague, bratislava, budapest, vienna, london and kiev to this city's downtown, suburbs, and neighborhoods (sherman oaks, venice beach, santa monica, manhattan beach, long beach, south pasadena, east los angeles, huntington beach, newport beach, laguna beach, etc.) and i love this city more knowing i go home to downtown los angeles.

downtown is the new "it" neighborhood in los angeles. i looked on craigslist for an informal poll and found the most expensive apartments/lofts to be in downtown los angeles. but i've been here for a good while and was here before it go so expensive, when it was a little too gritty for most people. i love that i can walk or take the DASH (http://www.ladottransit.com/) or metro (http://www.mta.net/riding_metro/riders_guide/planning_trip-02.htm) to most places i want/need to go. easily accessible by walking: 22 art galleries (http://www.downtownartwalk.com/), olvera street (http://www.cityofla.org/elp/olvera.htm), little tokyo (http://www.usc.edu/dept/geography/losangeles/lawalk/civic/), chinatown (http://www.chinatownla.com/), fashion district (http://fashiondistrict.org/), toy district (http://www.centralcityeast.org/toys/), free events at redcat (http://www.redcat.org/) and walt disney hall (http://wdch.laphil.com/home.cfm), the music center (http://www.musiccenter.org/), calplaza's watercourt stage (http://www.grandperformances.org), moca (http://www.moca.org/index.php), and the list goes on. i love that i'm centrally located to other parts of the city. while i hesitate to go west of la brea (unless it's to the beach, a hoity-toity event on rodeo (http://5thandspring.blogspot.com/2005/06/looking-at-los-angeles.html) or a film event (http://5thandspring.blogspot.com/2005/06/32nd-annual-student-academy-awards.html)), i like venturing eastward for culinary treats like japanese dessert land, $2 vietnamese sandwiches, argentinian churrascarias with 24 varieties of grilled meats, and countless boba and tea houses, usually open until 4am.

it's not a perfect city - i get tired of the traffic, parking, pollution, crime, poverty, insane sense of entitlement that many angelenos have, and general wackiness (http://5thandspring.blogspot.com/2005/06/animal-lovers-but-no-kooks.html), too. los angeles is only my third favorite city in the world, paris is #1 and prague is #2. but living here certainly gives one a sense of a city where the best still lies ahead instead of a city that waxes nostalgic for better days in the past.

If I can get anice house in a nice neighborhood Yes.

I'm rather to visiting but not to living there

its funny how hypocritical people are. They praise Cape Town, Rio, Hong Kong, Vancouver for their beautiful locations. They would at the drop of a hat move to these places because of it. What about L.A.? LA? Are you serious!? I would never move that sprawling, ghetto, sleazy shitho---

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.....uhhhhh.....ummmmm...uhhhh....Well..ahhh...Bush is your president.

I would love to live in Southern Orange County(east of Highway 55). I think that's the best part of LA Metro and US.

I would love to live in Southern Orange County(east of Highway 55). I think that's the best part of LA Metro and US.

agreed

its funny how hypocritical people are. They praise Cape Town, Rio, Hong Kong, Vancouver for their beautiful locations. They would at the drop of a hat move to these places because of it. What about L.A.? LA? Are you serious!? I would never move that sprawling, ghetto, sleazy shitho---

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.....uhhhhh.....ummmmm...uhhhh....Well..ahhh...Bush is your president.

Is that a real picture? I don't recall DT ever being so close to the beach.

The city is beautiful! I never knew it was that close to the mountains too though. To hell with all those people who are complaining cuz they are just jealous.

Is that a real picture? I don't recall DT ever being so close to the beach.

i think it is, its just a very clear day. it duz seem a little too close to the beach though

thats a real picture. DT looks closer than it really is cause you cant see some of the land inbetween.

looks like a view from Century City area and maybe it was cropped or something. But who knows. I wonder where the person took the picutre.

Thats a view from the Palos Verdes Penninsula, pretty close to where Trump is finishing up his new golf course and 20 million dollar track homes. I was there recently and i saw pretty much the same view. LA is a beautiful place, but of course there are some drawbacks. Things are looking up for the city of Angels for a couple fo reasons, namely the new rail that is being built throughout the city, the new planning direction that the city is taking (TOD's, Dense highrise living, and less sprawl, Tons of Infill Development) and the BOOM in DT LA, Hollywood, Long Beach, Pasadena, and tyhe Wilshire Corridor, all surprise surpirse, areas that are linked by rail. Oh and we have the best weather on earth and pretty much everything you can think of. :)

its funny how hypocritical people are. They praise Cape Town, Rio, Hong Kong, Vancouver for their beautiful locations. They would at the drop of a hat move to these places because of it. What about L.A.? LA? Are you serious!? I would never move that sprawling, ghetto, sleazy shitho---

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.....uhhhhh.....ummmmm...uhhhh....Well..ahhh...Bush is your president.
That has to be one of the greatest pictures of LA I've ever seen. Props to whoever took the shot.

its funny how hypocritical people are. They praise Cape Town, Rio, Hong Kong, Vancouver for their beautiful locations. They would at the drop of a hat move to these places because of it. What about L.A.? LA? Are you serious!? I would never move that sprawling, ghetto, sleazy shitho---

.....uhhhhh.....ummmmm...uhhhh....Well..ahhh...Bush is your president.

Nail on the head. LA is gorgeous and it is absolutely hilarious that someone from London calls LA an "out and out dump". If LA is a "dump", then London is worse than raw sewage.

No. Reason? The LAPD = KKKlansmen with a badge.

No. Reason? The LAPD = KKKlansmen with a badge.

That's BS!

Its so true!

Yes, I would live in Los Angeles. And I just might at some point.

I'd love living in Los Angeles. I love the clean and dirty parts of a city. That's what makes a real city in my opinion. Dirty and spectacular.

No. Reason? The LAPD = KKKlansmen with a badge.
lmao

We ain't in 90's now.

honestly, LA is not the kind of place I would like to live in. I've been to LA twice I am sure there are nice places, but what I have seen was not so appealing.

It is by far too big for my taste and I don't wanna use a car. Anyway, I was never really fond of beaches and palm trees, so it is not LA's fault ;)

i agree, all of the stereotypical LA gang and what not problems were in the early 90's, that time is over. LA is much, much more than just a shithole with graffity, smog and traffic. so many people underestimate LA and don't even really know it, a 7 day trip to LA is no where near enough to really get to know the area (not just the city)

i agree, all of the stereotypical LA gang and what not problems were in the early 90's, that time is over. LA is much, much more than just a shithole with graffity, smog and traffic. so many people underestimate LA and don't even really know it, a 7 day trip to LA is no where near enough to really get to know the area (not just the city)

Gangs has been decreased since late 1990's.

I dont think people think LA is a dump. It just doesnt suit their tastes because you have to drive EVERYWHERE.
LA is beautiful just not my type of place:)

Bus - Crazy People
Subway - Goes Nowhere.
Car - Good. But takes forever
Walking - Takes forever and a day
Bike - Only if you hate life
Taxi - Only if you're rich

Bus - Crazy People
Subway - Goes Nowhere.
Car - Good. But takes forever
Walking - Takes forever and a day
Bike - Only if you hate life
Taxi - Only if you're rich

lol, that is so true. the bus is always ful of freaks. the subway doesn't cover much. it takes forever to get around in a car, especially on the freeway. walking, well no one walks, it would take me approximately 2 years to walk to LA. about bikes, yea i dont c very many ppl w/ bikes, only ppl that bike for a hobby or hobos sumtimes. taxi's are very expensive and are just as bad as driving yourself

I'm not worried about the gangs. I'm worried about the LAPD.

if only they never got rid of the old red car rail system in LA...

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I wasn't sure whether to pick choice 2 or 3 as they seem to be the same, so I picked choice 2.

if only they never got rid of the old red car rail system in LA...

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they should build a new rail system over it. the space is still there, the old tracks are now just like sand belts running through the city, they should just build a track over it. it'd be cool if we got a decent rail system here

if LA weren't too expensive and less prone to earthquakes, i would consider it...cool city.

LA is expensive? I didn't know that

LA is fine but I prefer SanDiego!

I hate driving, so for that reason L.A wouldn't be a good choice. If I had to live anywhere on the west coast it would be San Francisco, seems much smaller and more managable than L.A, and alot friendlier.

LA is expensive? I didn't know that


it isn't expensive? you're there...how much does a one bedroom apt. go for ?

they should build a new rail system over it. the space is still there, the old tracks are now just like sand belts running through the city, they should just build a track over it. it'd be cool if we got a decent rail system here

Yeah but the problem is that since most of LA area is nothing but suburban sprawl, you still need a car to reach anywhere from those stops.

it isn't expensive? you're there...how much does a one bedroom apt. go for ?

It's about $700 for studio and $900 for one bedroom apt.

Just go check on Westside Rental, it's cheaper than apartment.com

Los Angeles is alright. It grows on you. Coming from San Francisco, I went to UCLA and lived in LA for five years. Initially, I felt it lacked culture and was too materialistic. Also, it didn't have the atmosphere of a truly exciting urban culture like SF has. However, LA has a lot to offer once you get to know where to look. Though the traffic and the geographic size of the city is a constant headache.

I would never live in U.S.A.
Sorry!
:(

Not my type of city. I doubt I'll ever leave Chicago anyways.

I would never live in U.S.A.
Sorry!
:(

y not?

it isn't expensive? you're there...how much does a one bedroom apt. go for ?

Where I live they go from about $900-$1500. In places like Newport beach a 1 bedroom can go for $3000 or more

LA's vegetation is an eyesore, but its a great place to live to escape the cold weather of the North and the humidity of the East. I wouldn't be surprised if LA one day surpassed NYC as the largest metropolitan area in the United States. LAs skyline needs to grow so that it can be compared with Chicago and NYC.

Leaving LA in 6 months, Moving to New York City. Sorry to say this LA SUCKS!!!!!!!!

LA is polluted like Beijing, perverted like Vegas and fake like Pamela... and too many cars out there...In California I prefer San Diego and San Francisco !

No thanks...

Yes LAWestsideStory, you've repeatedly expressed your distaste for Los Angeles. Enjoy life in NYC, I hear the weather there is just splendid. ;)

Now to address the question. Being a native Angeleno, obviously I love my city and would rather live here than anywhere else in the world though I'd consider other US cities such as San Francisco, New York City, Boston, Seattle, and Washington, DC.

Here's what I love about Los Angeles and why I would not want to live anywhere else.

-Quite possibly the best weather
-Located in the mighty State of California
-Largest city in California (by far)
-Largest metro in California (by far)
-One of the three most important/influential/global/hip/cultured US cities
-Most diverse geographic landscape (mountains, beaches, deserts, forests, palm trees)---(in no other city in the US can one go skiing in the mountains and later that day go to the beach and lay out in the sun in 75 degree weather)---so in that sense, I can have anything
-Easy access to other great destinations such as Las Vegas, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Arizona
-Sits on the Pacific Ocean and open to the rest of the world (Asia, Hawaii, Australia, French Polynesia) via ship
-Fastest growing region in the US
-US city with the most potential (already an Alpha world city yet it can become so much more)
-LA County and its status of having the highest concentration of millionaires (by far)
-Expanding rail
-Growing Downtown
-International hub of pop culture
-Major hub of film, tv, music, science, contemporary art, fashion, theater, trade, etc.
-Entertainment capital of the world
-Most important port in the US especially once you add Long Beach

So you resurrected a 6 month old thread just to say how much you dislike LA? Pretty troll-like behaviour if you ask me :sly: