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SL Benfica

32x League (record):
1936, 1937, 1938, 1942, 1943,
1945, 1950, 1955, 1957, 1960,
1961, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967,
1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973,
1975, 1976, 1977, 1981, 1983,
1984, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1994,
2005, 2010

24x Cup (record):
1940, 1943, 1944, 1949, 1951,
1952, 1953, 1955, 1957, 1959,
1962, 1964, 1969, 1970, 1972,
1980, 1981, 1983, 1985, 1986,
1987, 1993, 1996, 2004

3x League Cup (record):
2009, 2010, 2011

4x Supercup:
1980, 1985, 1989, 2005

2x UEFA Champions League:
1961, 1962

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Est%C3%A1dio_da_Luz_2005_%283%29.jpg

It was long gone for a reason.

It was long gone for a reason.

Being.......................................??

This stadium has been talked about to death....and it is old news, as are all the EURO 2004 stadiums.

Awesome stadium , for a couple of awesome teams. I'll never get sick of these stadiums. One thing that I am sick of though is hearing(reading) " Greece 2004 European champions" , now THAT is old news. Now more than ever I am convinced it was all a fluke...now that all other countries are familiar with their style they can't even score a single goal. An embarrasing representative for Europe in the Confederations Cup. I know I'll be getting some flack for these comments but I don't really care.....Viva Italia and Forca Portugal!!

Awesome stadium , for a couple of awesome teams. I'll never get sick of these stadiums. One thing that I am sick of though is hearing(reading) " Greece 2004 European champions" , now THAT is old news. Now more than ever I am convinced it was all a fluke...now that all other countries are familiar with their style they can't even score a single goal. An embarrasing representative for Europe in the Confederations Cup. I know I'll be getting some flack for these comments but I don't really care.....Viva Italia and Forca Portugal!!

I agree with you totally. Thanks for being honest. As for getting flacked, what's vital is that our thoughts are said, even though they may not be understood by others.

The best one they built

I think Da Luz is still the best futbal stadium in Europe, and one of the best worldwide.

The new Wembley is looking pretty good as well but they will have to finish it before we can compare.

Nice stadium. I like the red with the greay :)

other pics or interesting graphic, plans ...?

This stadium has been talked about to death....and it is old news, as are all the EURO 2004 stadiums.

Funny you say that as the Emirates stadium has been talked about to death and will be even more so when it is finished for a very simple reason the design is truly brilliant every thing about both stadiums are great in design. When th Emirates stadium is opened every one will be talking about it like they will they were when Estadio da Luz was so complain all you but that stadium along with this one will be talked about for a very long time.

Brilliant Stadium One
http://www.slavia-tu.czechweb.cz/foto_euro_004_benfica.jpg

http://lisboa.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/11.jpg

Brilliant stadium Two
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/167/1811/640/arsenal%20emirates%20stadium.jpg

http://www.worldstadia.com/data/images/z/e/zeuc040712111654.jpg

Wonderful Stadium :yes:

Who doesn't?...it's BRILLIIIIIANT!

whats the height of the stadium

Great team, Great Stadium!

i've always thought that da luz looks slightly bigger than the emirates stadium, and (thank you google) so it is: 65,000 vs. 60,000.

I think Da Luz is still the best futbal stadium in Europe, and one of the best worldwide.

The new Wembley is looking pretty good as well but they will have to finish it before we can compare.

Do you honestly believe the da luz will be comparable to the new wembley? No offence but the new wembley is in a different world to da luz. It will be the largest (in terms of space), most advanced stadium in the world. Da luz is a very nice stadium and it looks excellent quality for the amount of money spent on it. However, these two stadiums were built with very different ideas in mind and the scale and quality of wembley befits it status by superceding anything currently in existence. I think once people see the new wembley up and running they will realise it will stand alone as the best in Europe, if not the world. - So it should for nearly £800m.

Whats the average attendance in Benficas home games?

Benfica 31221

Benfica 31221

Now that is poor.

Could someone give me an idea of where the away fans sit at benfica, ill be there for the united game and was hoping that we're not put in some top tier corner.

Could someone give me an idea of where the away fans sit at benfica, ill be there for the united game and was hoping that we're not put in some top tier corner.

I don't know really... but i'd say you're destined behind the goal.

I think Da Luz is still the best futbal stadium in Europe, and one of the best worldwide. :)

Da Luz is the best-designed Soccer stadium in the World!!

how is the Da Luz the best designed stadium in the world? Ya I admit it is nice and effective but it is not the best designed stadium. Firtstly the outside of the stadium is not very good looking, too much concrete. THe new emirates stadium which has a similar design to the Da Luz will look much better and modern from the outside.

According to the Firm that Design the stadium. It's one of the best in the World for its design and for the security of the inside Stadium. By the way,if you look closely the outside has alot of glass also....I believe the finished Wembley and Da Luz stadiums will be the best in their class in the world.

Beautiful,Beautiful stadium!!

Its definitely in the list of my top 5 stadiums in the world. I just love it.

Also I think that its amazing that it only cost 118.7 million euros :shocked:
That is unbelievably cheap for such a stadium.

Nevertheless here are some more pics:

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/euro_2004/estadio_da_luz/images/innen_01.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/euro_2004/estadio_da_luz/images/innen_04.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/euro_2004/estadio_da_luz/images/innen_25.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/euro_2004/estadio_da_luz/images/innen_28.jpg
as somebody else already stated, the red-grey colour combination looks indeed very cool
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/euro_2004/estadio_da_luz/images/aussen_02.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/euro_2004/estadio_da_luz/images/aussen_06.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/euro_2004/estadio_da_luz/images/sonstige_01.jpg

before an Euro 2004 game :)
http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~ahein/53.jpg
http://www.groundhopping.de/ec04vf1g6.jpg
http://tinaundthomas.de/lissabon011.jpg

i just love it..!! i whent there in a euro04 game and when it´s full it´s just so amazing.. only thing less good is stands should be more near of de pitch IMO

One of the best. Looks amazing in the sun.

http://galerias.escritacomluz.com/hugomanita/albums/album04/aac.sized.jpg

http://galerias.escritacomluz.com/hugomanita/albums/album04/aaa.sized.jpg

http://galerias.escritacomluz.com/bafragoso/albums/album16/aaf.sized.jpg

http://galerias.escritacomluz.com/bafragoso/albums/album16/aal.sized.jpg

The stadium of light looks as impressive now as it did 39 years ago on that sunny day in May 1967 when the big cup was brought back to these shores for the first time.

I must say that the interior of Benfica's stadium is very nice and well designed but the outside of the stadium looks like crap. I can see how they made the stadium so cheap, just look at the exterior it doesn't flow like the interior or the roof does. I would have liked to see something more like Wembley's exterior or the new Arsenal stadium.

^^ Join the group! That's the stadium's biggest flaw - the whole exterior yells "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" :sleepy:

Luckily most people would disagree for obvious reasons. Benfica's stadium is a model for many other projects. Why should it have been more expensive, to satisfy the architectural preferences of a few???

totaly agree... thats why probably we dont have so many financial problms like Sporting..

Luz is larger than 65.000 seats.
Why, the Emirates stadium has the same rows on the first tier and 31 rows on the upper tier, Luz has more than 45 rows on the upper tier.
Example:

1 row is more than 1.000 seats.
Luz has 14 rows more than emirates
14 X 1.000 = 14.000 seats
capacity Emirates Stadium 60.000 + 14.000 = 74.000 seats (Estadio da Luz)

I thought the capacity was 65,000?

MoreOrLess:
Its only mine opinion.
As you see pictures of both stadia, than can you not say that emirates stadium 5.000 seats smaller is than luz. Luz has more rows on the upper tier. Luz is more than 15.000 seats larger than arsenal stadium.

See the pictures:
Emirates Stadium: http://www.**************************/emirates/
Estadio da Luz: http://www.sl-benfica.com/galeria/index.php?&tipo=&cid=134

MoreOrLess:
See only the corner

Gosh! I wish North London had the same beautiful sunlight!!!
Its not fair!

Estadio da Luz and the emirates are very similar. If da Luz hadn't painted those huge trusses red and left them white, and Emirates didn't have the sloping roof then we would have the perfect stadium!

MoreOrLess:
Its only mine opinion.
As you see pictures of both stadia, than can you not say that emirates stadium 5.000 seats smaller is than luz. Luz has more rows on the upper tier. Luz is more than 15.000 seats larger than arsenal stadium.

So your saying one of the stadiums is lieing about their capacity? If your right about the upper tiers then I'd guess Emirates makes up the difference with larger lower and middle tiers.

Da Luz is 65647, and is obviously better than the Emirates Stadium. It just looks more eye-catching and is also bigger. I think it is the roof that does it. Any non-fanboy will tell you that they prefer Da Luz over The Emirates.

^^ How can you make that conclusion if the emirates not finished yet, Emirates might actually be better then da Luz, yet i agree that roof does let it down

On this site the fact & figures of Estadio da Luz and you can see that the stadium not 65.000 have, but 75.000 seats.
http://www.hoksve.com/sport/projects/4DEF9522-7DE9-4E08-920C-F2519D658885/Benfica_Stadium.htm?sort=Alpha

The roof of Da Luz is the one thing I like better than Emirates. The bowls are pretty much the same, and I like the very sharp exterior of Emirates. The English sloping roofs along the upper decks are just too much though.

On this site the fact & figures of Estadio da Luz and you can see that the stadium not 65.000 have, but 75.000 seats.
http://www.hoksve.com/sport/projects/4DEF9522-7DE9-4E08-920C-F2519D658885/Benfica_Stadium.htm?sort=Alpha

Most likely a mistake, I'v seen it quoted as 65,000 everywhere else.

The roof of Da Luz is the one thing I like better than Emirates. The bowls are pretty much the same, and I like the very sharp exterior of Emirates. The English sloping roofs along the upper decks are just too much though.

If we could see a rentidion of Da Luz and Ashburton Grove together they'd be almost identical.

Sloping roofs are a matter of tradition in England. The old Wembley had a surprisingly sloped roof. In fact so much so that in the furthest back seats the view was badly obstructed.

Best stadium in Portugal no doubt, althought the ancient was bigger.
Da Luz and Emirates are quite similar but i think first one is better in overall.

Luz = Catedral do futebol

Luz = Catedral do futebol

this may be so but it doesn't hold 75 000

Bottom tier:
Emirates; 29 rows
Luz: 27 rows

2nd (corporate) tier:
8 rows each

3rd (corporate) tier:
3 rows each

4th Tier corners:
Emirates; 16 rows
Luz; 24 rows

4th ier apex:
Emirates; 33 rows
Luz; 41 rows

don't think theres a 15 000 difference there, more like 5-7 000

2Zanzibar:
Luz have 29 rows on the bottom tier.

you're wrong 2zanzibar. The Luz stadium has 29 rows on the bottom tier.

this may be so but it doesn't hold 75 000



4th Tier corners:
Emirates; 16 rows
Luz; 24 rows

4th ier apex:
Emirates; 33 rows
Luz; 41 rows

don't think theres a 15 000 difference there, more like 5-7 000


Ahh. Thought it looked bigger. So the difference is in the upper tier.

I prefer the Da Luz, if I'm honest.

On this site the fact & figures of Estadio da Luz and you can see that the stadium not 65.000 have, but 75.000 seats.
http://www.hoksve.com/sport/projects/4DEF9522-7DE9-4E08-920C-F2519D658885/Benfica_Stadium.htm?sort=Alpha

Sorry, stadiumfuture, but you're wrong and MoreOrLess is right.

The capacity of Stadio Da Luz is 65,000. Check this link:

http://www.eurostadiums.com/stadiums/Portugal/Lisboa/304/

Or this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_by_capacity

The European Championship final between Portugal and Greece in the summer of 2004 attracted a crowd of 62,865. For proof, see this link to the BBC website. The attendance is listed below the match report:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/3860105.stm

I imagine that the slightly below 65,000 figure was because of the segregation required. If the Stadio Da Luz really held 75,000 seats, do you honestly think that 12,000 of them would have been empty for one of the most important matches in world football - especially when the home nation was in the final? And do you think that no one would have noticed all those empty seats?

Of course not.

Da Luz is 65,000, those who think it is 75,000 are deluded

Why are an architect company lieing about this facts. In the first option they have an plan to build an stadium for 75.000, but ernest walker (uefa) was against this plan. Only the 4 arches are reduced to 74 meter, and the total plan was the same structure.

The facts for 65.000 was an method to continue the construction proces. As they have say 'we build an stadium for 75.000', than was this the end of this beautiful project. Ernest Walker is an insitute in fooball real estate. He can say stop the construction now.

Please believe me

Why are an architect company lieing about this facts. In the first option they have an plan to build an stadium for 75.000, but ernest walker (uefa) was against this plan. Only the 4 arches are reduced to 74 meter, and the total plan was the same structure.

The facts for 65.000 was an method to continue the construction proces. As they have say 'we build an stadium for 75.000', than was this the end of this beautiful project. Ernest Walker is an insitute in fooball real estate. He can say stop the construction now.

Please believe me

Believe you? I'm sorry but I'm not sure that I totally understand what you're trying to say.

Are you still insisting that the Stadio Da Luz has a capacity of 75,000? If so, why - when just about every mention of the stadium that I've ever heard (or read in a newspaper, magazine or website; or seen on TV) says that the capacity is 65,000? And why was the attendance for the European Championship final between Portugal and Greece only 63,000? And why was the attendance for last December's crucial final Champions' League group game between Manchester United and and Benfica only 61,000?

Face it. You're wrong. The capacity of Stadio Da Luz is 65,000.

Apologies if I misunderstood your post and that you were, in fact, conceding that you were wrong!

JimB:
Listen to me,
Luz has overall 14 rows more than emirates stadium. +/- 1 row = 1.000 seats.
Or Emirates stadium is smaller or Luz is bigger.
Look only to the low corner and you see the result.

JimB:
Listen to me,
Luz has overall 14 rows more than emirates stadium. +/- 1 row = 1.000 seats.
Or Emirates stadium is smaller or Luz is bigger.
Look only to the low corner and you see the result.

Emirates is smaller. When finished, its capacity will be 60,000. That's 5,000 less than Da Luz.

But please stop trying to convince everyone that Da Luz has a capacity of 75,000. Every single other reliable source on this subject says that the capacity of Da Luz is 65,000.

Do you really think you are right and everyone else in the world is wrong?

You are all wrong. It's 65647!!

JimB:
Listen to me,
Luz has overall 14 rows more than emirates stadium. +/- 1 row = 1.000 seats.
Or Emirates stadium is smaller or Luz is bigger.
Look only to the low corner and you see the result.


14 rows more??

Listen, it was Sunday, I was bored, I counted the fuckers!! I whipped some images through the zoom button, and YES! I, 2zanzibar counted every fucking row in da Luz!! Fortunately I already had the stats on Emirates from the Emirates thread.
Unless you can post a copy of the official drawings (they must exist somewhere online) then I'm believing my eyes when I see 27 rows on the bottom tier
8 rows difference in the whole stadium not 14! get the photoshop out and have a go yourself (if you're really bored, but don't start using that copy n paste button)

is it true that in Portugal half the population are anti Benfica and the other half support them?

^^ portugal have alot more teams, its not only benfica, Lisbon have two teams.

Its alL Guud:
Here the first design of the HOK company, what holds 75.000 seats. The same construction now to see in the stadium.
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://www.panstadia.com/vol8/83-006b-sml.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.panstadia.com/vol8/83-006.htm&h=71&w=150&sz=3&tbnid=on-CABoHtjWPTM:&tbnh=42&tbnw=90&hl=nl&start=295&prev=/images%3Fq%3Destadio%2Bda%2Bluz%26start%3D280%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dnl%26hs%3DR1s%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:nl:official_s%26sa%3DN

Its alL Guud:
Here the first design of the HOK company, what holds 75.000 seats. The same construction now to see in the stadium.
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://www.panstadia.com/vol8/83-006b-sml.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.panstadia.com/vol8/83-006.htm&h=71&w=150&sz=3&tbnid=on-CABoHtjWPTM:&tbnh=42&tbnw=90&hl=nl&start=295&prev=/images%3Fq%3Destadio%2Bda%2Bluz%26start%3D280%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dnl%26hs%3DR1s%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:nl:official_s%26sa%3DN

That article states the capacity as 65,000.

is it true that in Portugal half the population are anti Benfica and the other half support them?

no, Benfica is not a city soccer club and is support by moust of the people, is a national soccer club, Porto and Sporting are more city soccer club's.

no, Benfica is not a city soccer club and is support by moust of the people, is a national soccer club, Porto and Sporting are more city soccer club's.

:hilarious Of course! Just because Benfica has much more supporters that makes all the others "city clubs"? :sly: That's why Porto have club-supporting houses spread out through the whole world :|

is it true that in Portugal half the population are anti Benfica and the other half support them?

You could say that, although the word anti-Benfica is too harsh a word. What happens is that many portuguese soccer fans support two teams, a national one like Benfica, Porto and Sporting and their city's soccer clubs, even though one of them will always surface as the one from the heart.

Hi,
is it true that one stand behind the goal is higher than that behind the other goal?
please answer me
I have a bet

Meister2004:
no, all stands in the stadium have the same hight.

Benfica's Stadium is one of the best in Europe great looking stadium. The Benfica crowd is also great.

oh yeh I'm supporting Benfica when they go against Liverpool again in the UEFA Champions League (come on Benfica make people happy and knock Liverpool out the champ league).

Benfica's Stadium is one of the best in Europe great looking stadium. The Benfica crowd is also great.

oh yeh I'm supporting Benfica when they go against Liverpool again in the UEFA Champions League (come on Benfica make people happy and knock Liverpool out the champ league).

The average crowd last season was still only around 35,000 though, I'd guess the stadiums used for most internations and cup finals though.

it makes yes :yes: you now very well that Benfica have more supporters in Porto than FCP have :bash:

And since when does THAT make another club a "city club"? :sly:

dont make but normaly the club's are more supported by local people :dunno:

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/1ca/1ca3be16f634bad76ac485296878c5e4.jpg

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/ece/ece1561c8e1df13add5a4f916175a22a.jpg

^^AMAZING!!!!:)

great stadium!:D

Man, that stadium looks unbelievable. I think it could be the best stadium in Europe, better than the stadiums being built in Germany. Maybe only one stadium in Germany is comparable to the bemfica.

Estadio da luz is incredible,but i like Ashburton grove better

Estadio da luz is incredible,but i like Ashburton grove better

.... here we go again...

Benifcas average attendace
2000 27.706
2001 27.206
2002 29.924
2003 22.541
2004 28.395
2005 35.053
2006 43.057
2007 36.186

it was better in the 70s and 80s

When the prices were way lower.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2056/2189883798_396920605d_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11151965@N06/2189883798/sizes/o/

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1035/1429743718_899067366a_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1312/1485504397_6ced2f7c0c_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ultra_e/1485504397/sizes/o/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/317015331_bbe5830fc4_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/106/254428561_2a7e033dbc_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lf_ribeiro/254428561/sizes/o/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/237889989_a788411ed6_b.jpg
bigger one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mobreporter/237889989/sizes/o/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/60/204347380_ced3cf07b2_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/28574063_92b0413717_b.jpg

Now that's what a football stadium should look like. If only Schalke had built one like that in blue.

Wonderful stadium, this is exactly how a soccer stadium should be. I I still wonder how they managed to keep the cost as low as 130 million euros. Does anyone know how?

IMO the stands could be closer to the pitch like at Allianz

I particularily like this "massive" feeling the Luz projects from these pictures. It certainly contributes a lot in creating a unique atmosphere both for the players and the spectators. It must feel like a venue bigger than its 60k capacity.

[QUOTE=Kampflamm;19552421]Now that's what a football stadium should look like.[QUOTE]

Well perhaps on the continent, those designed stadiums (though succesful in having high capacities) are generally seen as bad for atmosphere and are in the minority here in the U.K. with Arsenal's new one and I suppose the New Wembley to an extent being the only two examples.

But each to their own eh.

No question about it, the Benfica stadium is one of the best-looking stadiums in the world!!

IMO the stands could be closer to the pitch like at Allianz

Have to agree but isnt that to do with UEfA guidelines, same reason Arsenal have a big gap too and why at Old Trafford the first 6 rows or so have to be covered over?

FIFA:
endzones: +7,5m (Allianz is 7,5m Emirates ~10-12m. So maye also da Luz)
sides: +6m (Allianz, 6m and at the main stand 9m, Emirates is maybe 9-10m)
Old stadiums in England and Spain are closer. But if Englands gets 2018, they have ti cut the first 3-5 rows (or 6) at Old Traford. Like they did at Dortmund east stand.
new GS stadium and Emirates
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2598/asyemiratesep1iz2.jpg

:cheers:

I don't like the exterior but the interior is gorgeous.

Inside it is better imho then Emirates. The outside, the roof and the facilities of Emirates are nicer and better! Both very nice stadiums! :okay:

Naming sucks...

http://img.olhares.com/data/big/121/1218102.jpg

what happened? :)

It looks better without sponsorship.

Picture taked in the inauguration, enjoy!

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3758/infernoluz.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=infernoluz.jpg)

In the old days, the good days, we could say that this was the true "Inferno of Light" (Inferno da Luz)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9595/wallpaperdofabulososlbb.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallpaperdofabulososlbb.jpg)

I'm sorry for the wallpaper, it will be the last that i post in. In the future, only pictures.

Also during the inauguration

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7783/umverdadeiroinferno.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=umverdadeiroinferno.jpg)

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3686/fogovermelho.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fogovermelho.jpg)

At the right of the stadium it's a Media Markt, and 3 pavillions, one is the swimming poll, and the other 2 is for volley, futsal, basquet, handball and, hoquei.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5859/image001uzx.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image001uzx.jpg)

Benfica-Celtic Champions League match

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8618/slbceltic022.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slbceltic022.jpg)

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3005/slbceltic027.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slbceltic027.jpg)

Naming sucks...

http://img.olhares.com/data/big/121/1218102.jpg

So much better..

In memory of Miki Fehér, a Benfica Player that died during a match between Guimarães and Benfica

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3010/index1.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=index1.jpg)

Benfica Eagle flying before the start of the game
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/834/cn2004200517jornadabenf.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cn2004200517jornadabenf.jpg)

there she is
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4049/cn2004200517jornadabenfy.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cn2004200517jornadabenfy.jpg)

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Benfica 4-0 Boavista, 2004/05
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Benfica 1-0 Sporting, 2004/05

We just want Benfica champion
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The team
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are the fans happy with the new stadium?
too big?
distance to the picth
steepness
acoustic
etc

Wonderful stadium, i've been there during Euro 2004 :yes:

are the fans happy with the new stadium?
too big?
distance to the picth
steepness
acoustic
etc


Yes we are, it's a great stadium.

It's not to big, it's normal to consider that, acording to the attendance statistics. The problem is that in the past years, the team didn't won important titles, the last championship was in 2004/05, and before that was in 1993/94, too many years betwen that 2 titles... so, it's normal the divorce betwen the supporters and the team. If we can win important titles with some regularity, the attendance will rise.

The distance to the picht is very good, i can say this because i've been is several diferent rows all over the stadium, and the acoustic is magnificent, in big or small games, it's quite amazing.

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^^ I never realized it, but the new Luz must have been inspired by the old one judging by that pic

Benfica Eagle flying before the start of the game
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Sorry, don't mean to threadjack, but this ritual reminds me so much of Auburn University's pre-game "War Eagle" ceremony!

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The new Estadio da Luz is a nice stadium, but the old one should have been better and they should have renovated it if they had the chance (a roof should have been built for this stadium). The stadium's commission shouldn't have voted on building this new stadium. Why was this new stadium even built? I say that Lisbon has demolished an undemolishable stadium.

^^

It was built for the EURO2004.

In Lisbon, Sporting Clube of Portugal demolished his stadium also, but that decision was made before EURO2004 was atribuited to Portugal.

It's impossible Benfica and Sporting play in the same stadium, like Inter and AC Milan.

It's impossible Benfica and Sporting play in the same stadium, like Inter and AC Milan.

He never mentioned anything like that......

He never mentioned anything like that......

And i didn't say that he mentioned that, or did i? It was just a comentary.:)

Portugal are so lucky, so many amazing stadiums. This one is no exception.

Tomorrow, Benfica presentation to the supporters against Atletico Madrid (Spain).

There i go again!

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Looks amazing.

Crise benfiquista Pelha? :D

It´s a wonderful pic ;)

Crise benfiquista Pelha? :D

Sorry. I don't understand the question.

That picture is amazing

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It's like what the Emirates should have looked like. :D

Sorry. I don't understand the question.

Pois claro:lol:

It's like what the Emirates should have looked like. :D

Maybe they´ll have a new try with Spurs stadium.:lol:

Hope so!

Benfica Eagle flying before the start of the game

I love that ritual....

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Now Benfica's badge is complete :) !!!

^^

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Esta foto foi tirada por uma amiga minha :banana:

Esta foto foi tirada por uma amiga minha :banana:

Isabel is everyone's friend in serbenfiquista. :P

Cracking pano...

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Beautiful!!!

does anyone have section plans of this temple?

are the fans happy with the new stadium?
too big?
distance to the picth
steepness
acoustic
etc

All Benfica fans that I know, consider the stadium perfect. The only "remark" that they normally do, me included, is the unfinished aspect of the outside.

Some pictures from the outside of the stadium, taken today. The photos show the football stadium, 1 swimming pool of 25 meters, 2 pavilions (basket, handball, futsal, etc) and a retail space (Adidas store, Benfica store, restaurants, etc):


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High resolution Version (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1816/estadioluz.jpg)


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good to here.
i do not like the huge distance between stands and pitch
any pics of the suites, lounges and restaurents?

i do not like the huge distance between stands and pitch

Trust me, it's not huge.

as far as i know its 12,5m
6m at the sight and 7,5m is allowed. :)

It's still not huge. You should see it live. :tongue2:

ok, its a lot :D

i do not like the huge distance between stands and pitch

To be honest, it is the first time I saw someone saying that. I always consider the distance "perfect". But maybe is a cultural thing: the old Portuguese stadiums had a much larger distance.

thats true :)
BTW what was the record attendance in the new stadiums and how many season tickets are sold?

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This season (2009/2010) attendance in the Portuguese league (Liga Sagres) so far:

Benfica - Porto : 58.659
Benfica - Marítimo : 54.103
Benfica - Nacional : 47.011
Benfica - Leixões : 43.283
Benfica - Naval : 41.981
Benfica - Académica : 41.206
Benfica - V.Setúbal : 40.915

P.S: order from max to min attendance, not by the date of the game.

BTW what was the record attendance in the new stadiums and how many season tickets are sold?

Benfica has already sold out the stadium several times.. Against Manchester United, Barcelona, Liverpool, Porto, Sporting Lisbon, etc.

Normally Benfica sold about 20.000 to 30.000 season tickets each season.

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But at that pic it looks like attendance was ~60,000-65,000

This last two pics are way too old ;)

I´ve searched for the record attendance but I didn´t find an exact number...I believe it´s around 64500.
Season tickets...maybe 30000 or more this year ;)

Nice stadium

This year's numbers are quite impressive. Nice attendance on most home matches.

Maybe they´ll have a new try with Spurs stadium.:lol:

I believe the new Spurs stadium will resemble the Luz more so than the Emirates does. The main reasons being that the roof of Spurs stadium does not slope downwards so like the Luz the whole ground will be visible from the upper tier. Also Spurs new stadium will have a maximum of 39 rows in the upper tier (Luz 41, Emirates 32) Making it more top 'heavy' in appearance and more imposing as the Luz is. Add to that we will be 8.2 mtrs from pitchside and I predict a much more impressive looking stadium than our rivals.
Naturally we wont have any red seats to spoil the effect :baeh3:

This last two pics are way too old ;)

Actually, those pictures are from last Benfica-FC Porto match.

You can see a 360º version here: http://benficapanoramico.cabral.com.pt/content/benfica-x-porto


I believe you thought those two were from this game:
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I like the new da Luz stadium really. And I was surpised about the sloping stands above.

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S.L. Benfica

31x Champion:
1936, 1937, 1938, 1942, 1943, 1945, 1950, 1955, 1957, 1960, 1961, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1994, 2005

27x Cup Winner
1930, 1931, 1935, 1940, 1943, 1944, 1949, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1955, 1957, 1959, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1970, 1972, 1980, 1981, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1993, 1996, 2004

2x UEFA Champions League
1961, 1962

Opened: 2003
UEFA Elite Stadium

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Another Top 5 Stadium.

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Highest league anc cup attendances (TOP 5)

2009/2010:
Benfica - Porto: 58.659
Benfica - Marítimo: 54.103
Benfica - V.Guimarães: 52.616
Benfica - Nacional: 47.011

2008/2009:
Benfica - Sporting: 60.022
Benfica - Porto: 53.435
Benfica - V.Guimarães: 47.102
Benfica - Naval: 45.714
Benfica - E.Amadora: 36.529

2007/2008:
Benfica - Porto: 60.116
Benfica - V.Setúbal: 54.222
Benfica - V.Guimarães: 52.464
Benfica - Sporting: 48.222

http://www.lpfp.pt/futebol/pages/espectadores.aspx?epoca=20072008&clube=sl_benfica&info=Clube

Highest league anc cup attendances (TOP 5)

2009/2010:
Benfica - Porto: 58.659
Benfica - Marítimo: 54.103
Benfica - V.Guimarães: 52.616
Benfica - Nacional: 47.011

2008/2009:
Benfica - Sporting: 60.022
Benfica - Porto: 53.435
Benfica - V.Guimarães: 47.102
Benfica - Naval: 45.714
Benfica - E.Amadora: 36.529

2007/2008:
Benfica - Porto: 60.116
Benfica - V.Setúbal: 54.222
Benfica - V.Guimarães: 52.464
Benfica - Sporting: 48.222

http://www.lpfp.pt/futebol/pages/espectadores.aspx?epoca=20072008&clube=sl_benfica&info=Clube

2009/10 Average

Liga Sagres (League): 45.568,45(45) (11 home matches. It has already played against FC Porto)

Carlsberg Cup (League Cup): 17.684 (1 home match)

There's no statistics for the Taça de Portugal Millennium (Portuguese Cup), since it's an FPF competition.

Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica opening on DVD (avi, to be honest).

October 25, 2003.



Part 1


To watch online (keep pressing play until it starts, usually you just need two times): http://www.megavideo.com/?v=37O81O3A

To download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MT4C43QG



Part 2


To watch online (keep pressing play until it starts, usually you just need two times): http://www.megavideo.com/?v=UL8KFYIW

To download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M6FXMJAQ


SAUCE: http://chamagloriosa.blogspot.com/2010/03/dvd-inauguracao-estadio-da-luz.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChamaGloriosa+%28Chama+Gloriosa%29

UEFA Europa League home games results so far:

Benfica 4 - Vorskla Poltava 0
Benfica 2 - BATE Borisov 0
Benfica 5 - Everton 0
Benfica 2 - AEK Atenas 1
Benfica 4 - Hertha Berlin 0
Benfica 1 - Olympique Marseille 1
Benfica 2 - Liverpool 1

7 games, 6 victories, 1 draw. :cheers:

I´m not a big fan of the roof but the interior is amazing!

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Benfica 2-1 Liverpool

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The Stadium of Light has just exceeded the 1 million spectators in the 23 official games played on the stadium this season! There is still one game left to play in the stadium.

Yesterday, with more than 64 thousand fans in the stadium, Benfica won 2 -1 against Rio Ave and...

... Benfica wins the 32nd league title in it's history!!!

And the country stopped!

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Congratulations Benfica!!!

lindo!

Nice!

great

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I wish... :cry:

I like the stadium of Benfica it reminds me on TTA..of Galatasaray
Congrats great stadium..

How much is ticket's price in there ?

How much is ticket's price in there ?

Searched on their website and you can get a season ticket (without any kind of discount) from 65€. The most expensive is 175€.

Then there are discounts to ladies, elderly people and young people under 23 years old...those can get the cheapest tickets from 47,50€

Boxes: from 275€ to 2625€. Also depends of the "level" of your club membership.

I think this season tickets give you access to league matches and perhaps group stage of European competitions.

Searched on their website and you can get a season ticket (without any kind of discount) from 65€. The most expensive is 175€.

Then there are discounts to ladies, elderly people and young people under 23 years old...those can get the cheapest tickets from 47,50€

Boxes: from 275€ to 2625€. Also depends of the "level" of your club membership.

I think this season tickets give you access to league matches and perhaps group stage of European competitions.

For European games you pay more 5€ with season ticket

Com certeza Portugal teria toda condição de organizar uma copa do mundo! :) excelente estádio, abraço do Brasil.

Searched on their website and you can get a season ticket (without any kind of discount) from 65€. The most expensive is 175€.

Then there are discounts to ladies, elderly people and young people under 23 years old...those can get the cheapest tickets from 47,50€

Boxes: from 275€ to 2625€. Also depends of the "level" of your club membership.

I think this season tickets give you access to league matches and perhaps group stage of European competitions.

UNBELIEVABLE!

I have a season ticket on this stadium supporting Djurgårdens IF in stockholm and I pay 400€. The cheapest season ticket cost 120€ and those seats (or seats, they are benches) are 30 meters from the pitch.

Congrats!
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Hail.





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Impressive pics...looks like an hockey arena!
Funny that on the other stadium - Alvalade - about a 1km from there...they were practicing...and they continue to practice because the hail was way less intense than here :nuts:

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lol I did not knew that it snows in lisbon

Is not snow, it's hail.

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:cheers:

o mitico tunel foi pintado?

A "long" time ago.

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What happened?

A group of sporting fans started to set seats on fire and it spread quickly.They took the lost Hard.

What Dickheads.:bash::bash:

A group of sporting fans started to set seats on fire and it spread quickly.They took the lost Hard.

What Dickheads.:bash::bash:

Yeah, Sporting fans were treated like garbage yesterday. We had no bathrooms, or a single bar to buy some water. I only entered the stadium 15m before the halftime and then, i had to view the game in this conditions.. :bash:

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There were more than 4.000 fans in that area, and it was like 3 guys per seat..

So, let's start a fire!!!



Poor viewing? It's the same system used in stadiums like Bernabéu, Parc des Princes, Giuseppe Meazza...


4.000? There were 3.450 tickets, Sporting returned 46 - and they even asked for 10.000!!!

Three people for each chair? Were you counting?

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2011/11/27/torcida_sporting_benfica_estadio_da_luz_efe.jpg

Well, it's understandable when you have a huge fire in the middle.



There's always an excuse for everything. First, it was what they called a "cage", then it was the authorities, afterwards it was just an accident, by the end of the day they even blamed the firefighters!

Hey! I killed him! But don't blame me, blame society!

The truth is this: for months every Sporting fan was totally convinced that they would win by 3, 4 or even more. Reality check is a cruel thing.



Sercan, being Turkish, must be laughing with that "garbage treatment"...

Judging by what happened yesterday, probably a net wasn't enough...


P.S.: What if the stadium structure was affected?



http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/benfica/fogo-derby-benfica-sporting-video-bombeiros-tvi/1302973-1456.html




I'm done with this "off-topic", because I have nothing against Nikom and football makes people behave in a weird way.

I only entered the stadium 15m before the halftime


At least in this one you have the right to blame. But you know what? That's what happens in every match of this kind. How many times Benfica fans were in this situation at Dragão? But that's a PSP problem.

Just one last thought...



4.000 people, 3 for each seat, uh?


Well, as you can see by this picture, they occupied around half of that top tier behind the goal.

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4.000 people with 3 for each seat means 1.333 seats. You're telling me that in a stadium with 65.647 seats, half of a top tier behind the goal - in the stand with most seats - means... 1.333 seats? Right...

And when everybody was running away from the fire how did they even managed to find a place??? What, there were 10 people per seat then?

There is no justification for this..

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Hey Aka, Pelha, off course there is no justification for that, Sporting fans lost their reason doing such stupid thing.



4.000? There were 3.450 tickets, Sporting returned 46 - and they even asked for 10.000!!!

Three people for each chair? Were you counting?



Let me tell you something, Benfica released 3450 tickets to Sporting (and only 12 were returned, they were for the board members, who refused to stay in the VIP area). But many fans, bought their tickets at Estádio da Luz, using Benfica's membership cards and they enter with no problem in the area of the Sporting fans, simply because no one saw their tickets.

And belive me, there were more than 4.000 fans in that area, and like you see in the first pictures, fans are crammed.

And when everybody was running away from the fire how did they even managed to find a place??? What, there were 10 people per seat then?

C'mon, you can clearly see that a large number of fans were leaving the stadium.

However, what happened with the fire was shameful, and ruined what was a great game of football in an great environment.

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Judging by what happened yesterday, probably a net wasn't enough...


One last thing Aka, it was the first time there were problems inside the stadium. When the visitors area, was in sector 0, without nets, everything went fine..

By the way, the only time I saw someone break into the turf in Estádio da Luz, was a famous Benfica's fan who assaulted a referee, and today he keeps going to the stadium without problems.

(Well, it's just football, all of this is stupid)

Let me tell you something, Benfica released 3450 tickets to Sporting (and only 12 were returned, they were for the board members, who refused to stay in the VIP area).

No, there were 46.


But many fans, bought their tickets at Estádio da Luz, using Benfica's membership cards and they enter with no problem in the area of the Sporting fans, simply because no one saw their tickets.

Wait a minute... First you tell me that Sporting fans were treated like garbage because there were too much in that area and now you're telling me that there were Sporting fans there with tickets for other places of the stadium? Then who the hell should you be complaining to???!!!

And belive me, there were more than 4.000 fans in that area, and like you see in the first pictures, fans are crammed.

Nikom, if there were more than 4.000 fans there its your fault like you've just said.

And no, you weren't crammed! Man, look at the space around the fire:

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2011/11/27/torcida_sporting_benfica_estadio_da_luz_efe.jpg

If you were that crammed how was it possible for you to run away from it?!

Those pictures you posted were pictures from ultra fans. They don't sit, they jump, they push themselves, they stick together.

Look at this video. Do they look crammed to you? I only see them celebrating the fire when it started!

PEUbZouyWeM



However, what happened with the fire was shameful, and ruined what was a great game of football in an great environment.

By the way, about that... http://www.ojogo.pt/27-332/artigo958248.asp




People, I'm sorry if I'm writing in Portuguese now. This is for Nikom only, it's not that important.


Nikom, vamos esquecer os nossos clubes. O facto é que o Benfica decidiu colocar aquela rede. Essa rede é licenciada, foi aceite por polícia e tudo. É algo que é feito em estádios de vários países civilizados da Europa, inclusive para os adeptos da casa!

O que acontece é que o Sporting estava a passar por uma fase de euforia e colocou neste jogo expectativas demasiado elevadas. Os dirigentes do Sporting - que ganharam as eleições do modo que ganharam e estão a tentar fazer isso passar à história - procuraram incendiar os seus próprios adeptos ao longo da semana, insistindo e insistindo na história da "caixa", da "jaula", do raio que o parta. Eles sabem que é isso o que lhes vai dar votos; isso e pintar o estádio todo de verde. Epá, o Vieira faz a mesma merda.
Repara que eles foram todos de fatinho e gravatinha para essa zona, só para provocar ainda mais. Aliás, se estavam tão apertados será que esses dirigentes saíram amarrotados?

Os adeptos do Sporting, depois dos traumas que têm tido, andaram excitados. E só a ideia de irem ganhar ao Benfica na Luz, ultrapassando-os, deixou-os noutro mundo. A quantidade de vezes que eu ouvi "Se ganharmos na Luz somos campeões!", "Vamos fazer isto e aquilo às galinhas", bla bla bla...

Dentro desse contexto, os dirigentes tornaram a coisa em algo bélico. Os adeptos do Sporting já estavam mentalizados que iam ter algo mau naquele estádio, que aquilo ia ser uma vergonha, mais isto, mais aquilo. É como aquele gajo que vai ver um filme já com a crítica negativa pronta.

O que é que aconteceu? O Benfica ganhou. Admite, e esquece que sou benfiquista, foi um choque grande, não foi? Vocês não estavam mesmo à espera, estavam mesmo convencidos de que iriam ganhar. Entende, não estou a criticar.

Nesse momento, alguns perderam a cabeça e partiram para aquele acto idiota que poderia ter sido bem mais grave e até pode ter afectado a estrutura do estádio. Porra, foi um crime - sim, o very-light também foi um crime, mas esse ainda foi a tribunal - e a intenção estava lá.


Tu próprio admites que foi um acto estúpido, mas quando o rapaz de Perth o criticou começaste logo a dar a desculpa de que foram tratados assim e assado. Ou seja, mesmo que admitas que é estúpido, no fundo tentaste procurar defender quem o fez à primeira.

Depois a Liga multa em 2500 euros. O resultado disto vai ser mais incêndios, porque... compensa.


Eu senti uma vergonha do caralho quando os portugueses assobiaram o hino da Bósnia-Herzegovina, mesmo que tivessem toda a razão do mundo - claro que durante o jogo caguei de alto devido às atitudes deles. Por isso, não consigo admitir atitudes destas, nem do meu clube. Não gostei do very-light, não gostei do gajo que foi apertar a nuca ao fiscal-de-linha - vá, no fundo até... -, não gostei quando chamaram certas coisas ao Nuno Gomes quando ele ainda estava no clube; odiei quando apagaram as luzes, não que eles não merecessem, mas porque os dirigentes rebaixaram o clube; etc.



Vá, no hard feelings, OK?



P.S.: Se quiserem, até podem colocar os adeptos do Benfica todos apertados como sardinhas no próximo jogo em Alvalade; até podem meter a tal rede. É um jogo de futebol, não é a ópera. O que importa é apoiar. ;)

One last thing Aka, it was the first time there were problems inside the stadium. When the visitors area, was in sector 0, without nets, everything went fine..

By the way, the only time I saw someone break into the turf in Estádio da Luz, was a famous Benfica's fan who assaulted a referee, and today he keeps going to the stadium without problems.

(Well, it's just football, all of this is stupid)


I'm so going to beat you with this post. :P


The truth is... wasn't the space at sector 0 much smaller than the one you had Saturday? I mean, it was just a narrow corner. Now that would be crammed!

It's not the first time that there were away supporters at the upper tier. Remember 2007? The Super Dragões threw everything they could from up there. That's why there's a net now.

Every time Portugal plays at Luz the away supporters are there too.

And we're just talking about the Luz. Take a look around Europe and tell me what you see.



As for the "famous Benfica's fan who assaulted a referee"...

YJpDlJYP-8Y


;)

Bem, vou responder a algumas partes, porque não ando com tempo para estar aqui :nuts:

Sabes porque é que eu fui um dos muitos contra a rede neste jogo ? Porque sempre que as claques estiveram no piso zero, nunca houve qualquer problema dentro do estádio, tudo correu dentro da normalidade. As duas vezes que meteram claques do Porto e Sporting noutro sitio diferente deu porcaria.. da primeira vez sem rede, da segunda com, deu porcaria na mesma. E, os adeptos em Portugal, não estão habituados a tratamentos destes, e eu sei do que falo, porque costumo acompanhar o Sporting nos jogos fora, e esta foi a minha sexta (e pior) vez que estive na Luz. Além disso, em Madrid, no Santiago Bernabéu já não existe rede, e a que existe em Barcelona é simplesmente terrível, além de estarmos no topo do estádio onde não se vê nada, ainda levamos com uma trampa de rede (também já lá estive, quando o Sporting jogou para a champions). E foi por isso que eu fiz aquele ultimo post, em género de provocação, simplesmente acho que a rede não era necessária, e a desculpa de agora dizerem que por causa do fogo é preciso tomar ainda mais medidas, é estúpida, porque antes nunca houve problemas do género.

Quanto à questão dos bilhetes, diz-me lá se faz sentido terem sido devolvidos 40 bilhetes, quando em 4 horas esgotou tudo e o Sporting ainda pediu mais ? Os únicos devolvidos foram 12, como podes ler no comunicado, que estavam destinados aos membros da direcção que se recusaram a ficar na tribuna. Ridículo, é ouvir as declarações do presidente do Benfica a dizer que estavam à volta de 2500 adeptos do Sporting na Luz, eu fico a pensar, mas o gajo está bem ? :bash: Eu estive lá, estive amontoado, e vi em meu redor, e sem sombra de dúvida, mais de 4.000 adeptos, tenho noção das coisas. E quando o começou o fogo já estavam adeptos a sair, portanto essa imagem não mostra todos, novamente, eu estive na zona, sei do que falo, e não estou a puxar a razão para o meu lado, acredita :okay:

E quanto ao resultado, eu não estava à espera de nada, porque basicamente eu gosto de futebol, não sou nenhum viciando, nem nenhum "Anti". Vi e ouvi de ambas as partes que iam golear, que iam ser campeões se ganhassem este jogo, etc etc, isso é normal, são rivalidades, e provocações. Ou vais dizer que também não vistes adeptos do Benfica com a moral em alta? Foi normal, as equipas estavam a jogar bem, e o jogo foi o espelho disso, um dos melhores derbys dos últimos anos, e apesar da trampa toda que houve, não vim de lá revoltado nem nada disso :okay:

Além disso maus adeptos há em todo o lado, e no Sporting, como no Benfica, não são poucos quanto isso, e eu nunca na vida defenderia os actos que aconteceram no estádio da Luz, foi pura e simples estupidez de um bando de idiotas revoltados da vida, infelizmente há desses em todo o lado :ohno::ohno:

Mas olha ficamos por aqui, para não estragar o thread do Estádio, não nos vamos chatear por futebol, além disso tu tens em parte a tua razão :okay: ( e eu a minha :lol:)

Sorry for this, everything solved, end of off-topic :cheers:

Sorry for this, everything solved, end of off-topic :cheers:

Not quite. :P




Sabes porque é que eu fui um dos muitos contra a rede neste jogo ? Porque sempre que as claques estiveram no piso zero, nunca houve qualquer problema dentro do estádio, tudo correu dentro da normalidade. As duas vezes que meteram claques do Porto e Sporting noutro sitio diferente deu porcaria.. da primeira vez sem rede, da segunda com, deu porcaria na mesma. E, os adeptos em Portugal, não estão habituados a tratamentos destes, e eu sei do que falo, porque costumo acompanhar o Sporting nos jogos fora, e esta foi a minha sexta (e pior) vez que estive na Luz. Além disso, em Madrid, no Santiago Bernabéu já não existe rede, e a que existe em Barcelona é simplesmente terrível, além de estarmos no topo do estádio onde não se vê nada, ainda levamos com uma trampa de rede (também já lá estive, quando o Sporting jogou para a champions). E foi por isso que eu fiz aquele ultimo post, em género de provocação, simplesmente acho que a rede não era necessária, e a desculpa de agora dizerem que por causa do fogo é preciso tomar ainda mais medidas, é estúpida, porque antes nunca houve problemas do género.

I wasn't there, but from what I see here the viewing doesn't seem that bad:

http://videos.sapo.pt/7kenfmZheIhdmlD84D83

C'mon! I've seen far worse streams. :lol:

It's better than behind those nets for handball, hockey, etc.



Quanto à questão dos bilhetes, diz-me lá se faz sentido terem sido devolvidos 40 bilhetes, quando em 4 horas esgotou tudo e o Sporting ainda pediu mais ? Os únicos devolvidos foram 12, como podes ler no comunicado, que estavam destinados aos membros da direcção que se recusaram a ficar na tribuna. Ridículo, é ouvir as declarações do presidente do Benfica a dizer que estavam à volta de 2500 adeptos do Sporting na Luz, eu fico a pensar, mas o gajo está bem ? :bash: Eu estive lá, estive amontoado, e vi em meu redor, e sem sombra de dúvida, mais de 4.000 adeptos, tenho noção das coisas. E quando o começou o fogo já estavam adeptos a sair, portanto essa imagem não mostra todos, novamente, eu estive na zona, sei do que falo, e não estou a puxar a razão para o meu lado, acredita :okay:

http://aovivo.slbenfica.pt/noticias/detalhedenoticia/tabid/790/articleid/20074/language/pt-pt/a-boa-e-a-ma-informacao.aspx

http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/dr/drfaxe.jpg

:)



E quanto ao resultado, eu não estava à espera de nada, porque basicamente eu gosto de futebol, não sou nenhum viciando, nem nenhum "Anti". Vi e ouvi de ambas as partes que iam golear, que iam ser campeões se ganhassem este jogo, etc etc, isso é normal, são rivalidades, e provocações. Ou vais dizer que também não vistes adeptos do Benfica com a moral em alta? Foi normal, as equipas estavam a jogar bem, e o jogo foi o espelho disso, um dos melhores derbys dos últimos anos, e apesar da trampa toda que houve, não vim de lá revoltado nem nada disso :okay:


Eu digo-te o que aconteceu do nosso lado. Estávamos calmíssimos, a pensar nos nossos jogos. De repente, cerca de um mês antes do jogo, começamos a ver adeptos do Sporting a dizer que se ganhassem o jogo seriam campeões, que iam ganhar por não sei quantos, quase a compararem-se ao Barcelona e, para terminar, esta história toda da "jaula". Reacção: "Mas estes gajos estão parvos? Ganham uns jogos e já pensam que são o Barcelona? Ainda falta um mês e já só pensam neste jogo? Deixa estar que dia 26 isso resolve-se."

Sinceramente, com um jogo em Old Trafford quatro dias antes havia mais em que pensar. ;)



Além disso maus adeptos há em todo o lado, e no Sporting, como no Benfica, não são poucos quanto isso, e eu nunca na vida defenderia os actos que aconteceram no estádio da Luz, foi pura e simples estupidez de um bando de idiotas revoltados da vida, infelizmente há desses em todo o lado :ohno::ohno:

Not in Naval.

Geez...really?...

So to clarify people who come here...Benfica won 1-0 against Sporting. Meh :(

Tambem vou meter o meu bedelho. O Benfica ganhou e ganhou bem, parabens. O vandalismo nunca é justificavel e é sempre condenavel. Mas todo este jogo esteve repleto de falhas de segurança.
1º A revista foi qq coisa ridicula em nenhum jogo eu vi 3500 adeptos(nao vou entrar em guerras de nº) ter que esperar que grupos de 20/30 adeptos da casa passassem com insultos em ritmo de passeio, para poderem entrar.
2º 5 pessoas para revistarem toda esta gente, claro que foi visto como uma provocação, não cabe na cabeça de ninguem, tinha muito mais logica entrar pela garagem como ja cheguei a entrar noutros anos.
3ºA estreia da rede neste jogo, mais uma atitude que nao se percebe, tinham exprimentado contra a bosnia e ja nao teria sido uma provocação tao clara
4ºAquele vidro ali a meio não tem logica nenhuma nestes jogos (percebo que seja para fazer um sector visitante mais pequeno), mas a verdade é que quem fica junto a esse acrilico nao consegue ver uma parte do campo pois apanha a rede em "bico" (nas pontas do sector nada a dizer da rede, até acho saudavel)
5ºA maneira como os adeptos da casa sairam do estadio, não cabe na cabeça de ninguem sairem mesmo junto ao sector visitante a psp devia ter encaminhado apra a outra saida a seguir, para além disso elementos provocadores com caxecois dos NN ficaram varios minutos com provocações sem que a policia os mandasse sair ou os detivesse, ora toda a gente sabe que nesta coisa das claques tanto de um lado como do outro à gente que ferve em pouca àgua. e foi uma questao de tempo até partirem o vidro, só aí é que decidiram intervir.

Para além disso não sei para que tanto barulho se ainda há bem pouco tempo foram os adeptos do benfica que incendiaram as bancadas de alvalade.
Bem Haja a todos

This Stadium is such a Beauty, but because of where it is and who plays in it, it doesn't get as much attention as others.

Para além disso não sei para que tanto barulho se ainda há bem pouco tempo foram os adeptos do benfica que incendiaram as bancadas de alvalade.
Bem Haja a todos

That's one of those lies that when repeated a lot of times becomes true.


You mean this, right?

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/392819_10150428616282460_310592237459_8473844_1570252075_n.jpg


This is not a fire. It's only torches. Unless Benfica fans are suicidal...

Is this also fire?
ebBAQLf8nDU



Talking about cages...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NBNBNdeAPFY/Tt4Ds_xcHSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/yAK0-fTSoZw/s1600/wc.jpg

Talking about cages...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NBNBNdeAPFY/Tt4Ds_xcHSI/AAAAAAAAAAM/yAK0-fTSoZw/s1600/wc.jpg

1º - This is not Estádio José de Alvalade thread.
2º - I can see that you never been at José de Alvadade our had a clear view of away's area their.
3º - I thought that this issue was overtaken

But let's talk about that cage, just to show you how wrong you are:

The fence at the left, it's to protect the cameraman, it was added about two years ago, when three Braga's fans fell off and injured the guy, it was on the news :okay:
This little pic shows that there was no fence there.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZnYWmg5KIpU/TT7V6w_2EII/AAAAAAAAA88/Xazi2MiikuI/s320/IMG_9464.JPG

Nowadays it has, but it's just to protect the cameraman

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8669/rede1.jpg

The wall on the right is there to ease the work of security forces, and to avoid seats to be unused to create a security zone. And because it's on a corner, it does not create any visual obstruction to the pitch. I've never heard about problems, no one ever complained, what's the deal know ? Now, do you think that is a cage ?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0n03evgohrY/TPLfd6Raa5I/AAAAAAAAESk/HQ3SO9V3NSc/s1600/051%2B-%2B27110.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C2Xc4g3b-_g/TWcmqIF3xQI/AAAAAAAAEp8/jI_lNa_w17Q/s1600/LS%252520scpxslb%2525201011%2525200066.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-G1UhRjjwBA0/TWcmqTsp_II/AAAAAAAAEqE/SQBEBfqF2sw/s1600/LS%252520scpxslb%2525201011%2525200964.jpg

Those walls, existe to avoid this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5x_cmw1JUjQ/Sr6iXTm5X1I/AAAAAAAADV8/l84XJyBwRAI/s400/35326099.jpg

A large number of polices, and venue assistants, and unused seats. See ? It's simple, and it's not a cage :)
Just to finish, Benfica's fans already started a fire in old José de Alvalade, back in 1986.. at their own flags, shirts.. :nuts:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4499/rede4.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3879/rede3.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/268/rede2.jpg

I'm off, i'm tired of this off-toppic.

Structural repair..

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407504_10151210392155716_212504785715_22907984_1137874117_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/427065_10151210392680716_212504785715_22907988_2087379495_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/400440_10151210393215716_212504785715_22907992_1765633656_n.jpg

Benfica Facebook

Just to finish, Benfica's fans already started a fire in old José de Alvalade, back in 1986.. at their own flags, shirts.. :nuts:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4499/rede4.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3879/rede3.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/268/rede2.jpg


Like you said, "flags, shirts", whatever. It wasn't on the structure of stadium, on the stands; it didn't burn the stadium. If a car is burning inside a car-park it doesn't mean that the car-park is burning, right?


The wall on the right is there to ease the work of security forces, and to avoid seats to be unused to create a security zone. And because it's on a corner, it does not create any visual obstruction to the pitch. I've never heard about problems, no one ever complained, what's the deal know ? Now, do you think that is a cage ?

...

Isn't that the reason why the Luz has it now?

In what way is this different?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407504_10151210392155716_212504785715_22907984_1137874117_n.jpg

How does this creates any kind of visual obstruction?

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/400440_10151210393215716_212504785715_22907992_1765633656_n.jpg



Juventus Stadium

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3820/juvepk.jpg

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6899/juve01.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6171/6144884377_a9b7e08c26_b.jpg


Pepsi Arena

http://legionisci.com/photos11w/11wisla2_f44.jpg


PGE Arena Gdańsk

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6123426215_eb5c988226_b.jpg


Coface Arena

http://www.rheinhessen-on-tour.de/_/stadionbau/12072011/images/_MG_3901.jpg


Donbass Arena

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5580410184_55e933d9a9_b.jpg

http://s49.radikal.ru/i123/1102/8c/70b9f990fc6b.jpg

Wait! What is this? Could it be... a net??!!

http://i060.radikal.ru/1010/28/ab9c57f071d0.jpg


I could go on and on and on and on and on...


So, what's the best solution? Returning to what it was before when nobody complained?

http://aperadosapinto.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/wpid-2010-09-19-19-48-10.jpg?w=600

http://luminescencias.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/slbscp0405-700174.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e7CpntVfpoc/TJ5yvi3XdZI/AAAAAAAABKQ/05u0Q2GldTQ/s1600/perfilscplamps2%5B1%5D.jpg


But, isn't that...

Those walls, existe to avoid this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5x_cmw1JUjQ/Sr6iXTm5X1I/AAAAAAAADV8/l84XJyBwRAI/s400/35326099.jpg


Let me check Estádio da Luz again...

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407504_10151210392155716_212504785715_22907984_1137874117_n.jpg

Sorry, I'm a bit confused now.




C'mon! :|

Instead of thanking Benfica for giving an amount of space (not in a small corner) for aways fans that most clubs don't, I only see complaints.

Oh yeah! I forgot. Benfica is the source of all eeeeevil in Portugal!!! :lol:

I thought this was forgotten :lol: Go on, let's have a drink :cheers: