Larger image of 3 Hardman Street. On site August 06 it says.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/254_3%20Hardman%20Street.jpg


Sheppard Robson on behalf of Allied London has received planning permission for 3 Hardman Street a 37,000m2 (400,000ft2) landmark office and retail building in Manchester, a key part of the 9ha regeneration of Spinningfields. “One of the challenges in dealing with such a large building - the floor plates range from 35,000ft2 to 10,000 ft2 at the top of the building - was to make it responsive to its wider and local context. Our brief from Allied London was also to ensure liquidity and flexibility within the design”, said Tim Evans creative director at Sheppard Robson. “To address this, the building is broken down by four stepped elements the highest point defining the corner of Hardman Square.” It is due to start on site in August 2005 for completion in early 2008

Interesting shot looking down Hardman Street and into Hardman Square there. Sort of confirms my fears about there perhaps being too much glass cladding being used at Spinningfields.

Larger image of 3 Hardman Street. On site August 06 it says.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/254_3%20Hardman%20Street.jpg




Interesting shot looking down Hardman Street and into Hardman Square there. Sort of confirms my fears about there perhaps being too much glass cladding being used at Spinningfields.

I don't know Sleepy I quite like all that glass, it will be different on each building and it should make the whole area feel very modern

I don't know Sleepy I quite like all that glass, it will be different on each building and it should make the whole area feel very modern

I agree Roly. It will be great to have an ultra modern 'Glass Quarter'. I was going to say 'Glazed Quarter', but didn't want it to be confused with Old Trafford LOL :jk: :jk: :jk: :runaway:

It will look fantastic!

There's a bit about 3 Hardman Street in the MEN today. Work starting in Spring with proper construction in August of 2006.

ANOTHER 150,000 sq ft of speculative office space is to be built at Deansgate's Spinningfields office scheme.

Developers Allied London says it will press ahead with the new block speculatively, whether or not it signs up occupiers before the building is completed.

Work on site will begin this spring.

The announcement comes as Allied London wins planning permission for its 400,000 sq ft, 3 Hardman Street office building at the 20-acre Spinningfields site in Manchester.

The building is expected to become home to Barclaycard, which is understood to have agreed to more than 100,000 sq ft in the building last October.

The striking building, designed by Manchester architects Sheppard Robson, includes four tiers of office space, each smaller than the last. Floorplates range from 10,000 sq ft to 35,000 sq ft.

Mike Ingall,chief executive at Allied London, said: "The next building, at 150,000 sq ft, is small enough to risk speculative development, although I'm confident that we will find pre-let tenants for it before the building work is complete."

"This will be the last office development in this part of the Spinningfields site."

"I'm told by everyone in the Manchester office market that top rents of around £28 a sq ft are achievable in the city today, and I'm sure we'll eventually hit £30 a sq ft, but really we're less interested in getting the best rent than we are in finding the right tenants to create and sustain the kind of high-quality business environment we're trying to create."

Demand

In the last 12 months Spinningfields has mopped up most of the demand from professionals for new office space in central Manchester.

Sheppard Robson advised Allied London on the design of the latest city centre office blocks.

Tim Evans creative director at Sheppard Robson, said: "One of the challenges in dealing with such a large building - the floor plates range from 35,000sq ft to 10,000 sq ft at the top of the building - was to make it responsive to its wider and local context.

"Our brief from Allied London was also to ensure liquidity and flexibility within the design."

It is due to start on site in August 2006 for completion in early 2008.

That article confuses me. 3 Hadman Street is a 400,000 sq ft block of which 100,000 sq ft has been let to Barclaycard.

When they say

"ANOTHER 150,000 sq ft of speculative office space is to be built at Deansgate's Spinningfields office scheme."

and

"Mike Ingall,chief executive at Allied London, said: "The next building, at 150,000 sq ft, is small enough to risk speculative development, although I'm confident that we will find pre-let tenants for it before the building work is complete."

... although there is a significant amount of spec space left within 3 Hardman Square it sounds like they are considering a speculative start on a further, 150,000 sq ft block.

This must mean a speculative start on 3/4 Hardman Boulevard at the same time, surely?

ANOTHER 150,000 sq ft of speculative office space is to be built at Deansgate's Spinningfields office scheme.

Developers Allied London says it will press ahead with the new block speculatively, whether or not it signs up occupiers before the building is completed.

Work on site will begin this spring.

The announcement comes as Allied London wins planning permission for its 400,000 sq ft, 3 Hardman Street office building at the 20-acre Spinningfields site in Manchester.

The building is expected to become home to Barclaycard, which is understood to have agreed to more than 100,000 sq ft in the building last October.

The striking building, designed by Manchester architects Sheppard Robson, includes four tiers of office space, each smaller than the last. Floorplates range from 10,000 sq ft to 35,000 sq ft.

Mike Ingall,chief executive at Allied London, said: "The next building, at 150,000 sq ft, is small enough to risk speculative development, although I'm confident that we will find pre-let tenants for it before the building work is complete."

"This will be the last office development in this part of the Spinningfields site."

"I'm told by everyone in the Manchester office market that top rents of around £28 a sq ft are achievable in the city today, and I'm sure we'll eventually hit £30 a sq ft, but really we're less interested in getting the best rent than we are in finding the right tenants to create and sustain the kind of high-quality business environment we're trying to create."

Demand

In the last 12 months Spinningfields has mopped up most of the demand from professionals for new office space in central Manchester.

Sheppard Robson advised Allied London on the design of the latest city centre office blocks.

Tim Evans creative director at Sheppard Robson, said: "One of the challenges in dealing with such a large building - the floor plates range from 35,000sq ft to 10,000 sq ft at the top of the building - was to make it responsive to its wider and local context.

"Our brief from Allied London was also to ensure liquidity and flexibility within the design."

It is due to start on site in August 2006 for completion in early 2008.

More great news Mark. Spinningfields goes from strength to strength.

A little more info.

Austin Street & Crown Square &, Hardman Street. Job: Detail plans granted for 9 office units & shop. Client: Allied London Properties Plc. Agent: Heritage Architecture, 363 West End Lane, West Hampsted. £52.2m.

Austin Street & Crown Square &, Hardman Street. Job: Detail plans granted for 9 office units & shop. Client: Allied London Properties Plc. Agent: Sheppard Robson, 2nd floor 113-115 Portland Street, Manchester. £52.2m.

Early planning.

Peel Court, Hardman Street. Detailed plans for offices. Client: Hardman Estates. Agent: Pickard Finlason, 1 Cambridge Road, Hale.

Yeah Sleep's i was a bit confused with that article too,,,is this 150,000sft building a totally different building ?from the 3 Hardman St building ?,,,it cant mean 4HS ,cos that's already started...

These similar named building are now getting very confusing,,,come on Allied change there bloody names :)

Sounds like 'another' office building for Spinningfileds to me. We've also yet to see any new proposals for No1 yet. Exciting times ahead for Spinningfields.

Well Im assuming it has to be 2&3 Hardman Boulevard which seems to be about the right size.

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_2hb_01.jpg

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_2hb_02.jpg

2 & 3 Hardman Boulevard
2 and 3 Hardman Boulevard has been designed by Denton Corker Marshall and is strategically located on the main commercial spine of Spinningfields, opposite The Royal Bank of Scotland’s building at 1 Hardman Boulevard. The building has floorplates of 19,300 sq ft, with good flexibility to sub-divide due to the two reception areas and the office cores. The total office area of the building is 154,000 sq ft over 8 upper storeys and there is an excellent provision of 114 parking spaces in the basement. The building will form important links between the civic and public areas of Spinningfields and the commercial heart. These links will be achieved by a stunning double-height covered walkway and retail area at the ground floor.


... meaning that by the end of this year there will be 3 Hardman Square, 4 Hardman Square, 3 Hardman Street and 2&3 Hardman Boulevard all under construction at Spinningfields alone if this publicity is to be believed!

Would this relate to the planned building (prev Xmas tree hotel) in between the RBS HQ and John Rylands (currently housing the MEN)?

Some construction pics from today

'Core' blimey!
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/garybaldy/IM000333.jpg

You've been framed!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/garybaldy/IM000331.jpg

lol, loving the corny titles :P

Quality photos, whilst I'd have preferred something higher, this should still turn out pretty nicely, judging by the rest of the Spinningfields developments. Its 1HS that I'm really looking forward to though.

Hardman Boulevard
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P2280059copy.jpg

Leftbank
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P2280061copy.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P2280062copy.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P2280064copy.jpg

Den-city (eh?)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P2280065copy.jpg

I'm loving the bridge between the two apartment buildings, very retro-futuristic.
I'd be quite interested to see a few more shots of Leftbank, it looks like its turned out well.

Nice big image of 3&4 Hardman Boulevard (with some sort of conceptual massing render of 1 Hardman Square in the background).

http://www.dentoncorkermarshall.com/resources.ashx/NewsChildDataImages/39/fileName/8EE3C0E1EED5F6B7D9F732AE466811F1/6295_3R_01_20060220_SS.jpg

Cheers. Thats definetley the latest version of 1HS in the background too, it looks pretty good. Wether its this version or a newer design I'm hoping we see some proper renders soon so it can get moving along.

where is that image from?

good find sleeps

The image is from the Denton Corker Marshall website, architects of the CJC and the 3&4 Hardman Boulevard building as pictured. There is a smaller version on the Spinningfields website which has already been posted.

Clearly, to put the building in context they have included a part of Leftbank, a smidgen of 4 Hardman Square and massing image of 1 Hardman Square which terminates the vista. Perhaps we are looking at an indicative height for 1HS here?

http://www.dentoncorkermarshall.com/resources.ashx/NewsChildDataImages/39/fileName/8EE3C0E1EED5F6B7D9F732AE466811F1/6295_3R_01_20060220_SS.jpg

The design looks nearly identical to the latest version of 1 hmsq we've seen (with the eastgate like massing and the canopy) - i don't think there's much of a height change too, around 36-37 floors (165m)

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=215

good find though sleepy :)

looks around 40'ish floors

It does doesn't it? Spinningfields just gets better and better. :)

BTW, good find Sleeps.

Certainly does look magnificent. But I´m going with the opinion of far too much glass and steel - far too soulless and sterile for my taste.

today..

were gettin some fancy car parks now - now I jus need a fancy car

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/84/29/07/80/3A/5A/11/DA/A7/B7/E6/71/54/2D/D3/F5/10/FFF09DD0AA4711DAAE558391542DD3F5.jpg

by the way JRB - if you want to know where the Middlewood Locks project office is, its on Odsall lane east just to the left of this pic..

If you fancy that, you fancy Charlotte Church :puke:

If you fancy that, you fancy Charlotte Church :puke:

But i do fancy charlotte church! Is that wrong? Hope so!

That car park is a huge improvement on the old one around there.

But i do fancy charlotte church! Is that wrong? Hope so!

No, becuase your probably very old, so i can understand attractions to any bit of arse on the front page of the daily star :D

No, becuase your probably very old, so i can understand attractions to any bit of arse on the front page of the daily star :D

Spot on MG!
I get aroused by Special K adverts nowadays!
:shocked: :drool: :uh: :toilet:

Something to be said about the last few frames of the latest renault advert also.

Can we get back on topic????

No, becuase your probably very old, so i can understand attractions to any bit of arse on the front page of the daily star :D

I wouldn't mind 'fish-hooking the annoying cow. Just to stem the flow of crap that comes from her noise hole.

Taken today.

Cores rising fast.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture129.jpg

Hallo Beetham. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture128.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture130.jpg

anyone know where i can find artists impressions of 1 hardman square? i initially heard it was supposed to go up to 35/40 floors but the plans were changed due to "microclimate issues". apologies if there's something about this already in this thread but i just can't be arsed trawling through half a ton of shite to find it so if anyone can make my life easier it'd be much appreciated :cheers:

Here you go ya lazy beach bum. Note the canopy intended to stop downdraughts.

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/8426/costco111uc.jpg

Click on the link in post #523 near the top of this page, it has images of the last couple of designs.

cheers gents :cheers:

i like the look of the first one with the flat roof, not overly keen on the sloping roof although it seems to be our signmature style these days. the company i work for are in sunlight house and i pop in every week or so, it'll be nice to have a bit more scenery to look at when i'm there :yes:

Anything new on the redevelopment of Manchester House?

Nope.

GMEN
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P3060013copy.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P3060017copy.jpg

Hardman Square
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P3060019copy.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P3060024copy.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P3060031copy.jpg

You lot are costing me a fortune. :yes:

But I love you all. :lovethem:

Some very interesting news/articles coming up.(different developments)

Are you smoking a crack jerb?
Different developments....but in the spinny thread eh?
What time we looking at? Missus is away this weekend so plan on sticking my head in my stomach later this evening :)
Good delving fella - much appreciated.

Every time I read/see something new about Spinningfields my loin starts stirring. :colgate:

Interesting article in today's (Saturday) EGI Magazine.

Allied are aiming Spinningfields at the haute couture retailers.

Look's like 2 Spinningfileds Square (below) is destined to be Armani's new store. Disappointing if true? I'd rather see an art gallery, museum or theatre to compliment the newly refurbished John Rylands Library.

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_2ssq_03.jpg

http://www.spinningfields-manchester.com/images/spinningfields/spinning_buildings_2ssq_02.jpg

Looking up Hardman Boulevard from the Leftbank Apartments. 2-3 Hardman Boulevard is on the left, with RBS on the right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/yop1.jpg

Ps. Joseph already has a shop on King Street.

Cheers for the article jrb .

Does anyone know when the MEN are sceduled to move to the new building ?
When this happen's i think thing's will really start to move in Spinningfields, with 3 Hardman St and 2 Spinningfield's Sq.

Are'nt most of those brands in the city anyhow? Armani has a couple of 'flagships' on upper King Street. Don't know where that article is coming from.

I think this is called 'talking up'. If you notice the article is very non specific and non committal. if the developer can go to other retailers and say 'yeah we are in talks with Armani ' (which they may very well be) then it might tempt them to come in. As it is nothing is signed is it so it might just be hot air for publicity purposes or perhaps armani will put another one of its many different sub brands in there.

not sure if spinningfields is the right place for retail, all that seems to bve creeping up toward the northern quarter doesn't it? i see spinningfields as being nothing but business & office space, after all retailers don't want a shop on 20 tiny floors, they want it on one or two huge floors

still, who gives a shit it's starting to look fuckin cool :cheers:

I'm thinking the planners are insisting on retail at ground level to lots of the developments to avoid a situation like in the City of London where, when the offices are closed, that part of town is dead. Retail and A3 will create a better overall environment and prevent Spinningfields just turning into something like an out of town business park.

I'm thinking the planners are insisting on retail at ground level to lots of the developments to avoid a situation like in the City of London where, when the offices are closed, that part of town is dead. Retail and A3 will create a better overall environment and prevent Spinningfields just turning into something like an out of town business park.


true, there's a lot of residential stuff going up on the castlefield side so cue a rash of tesco express & sainsburys locals :cheers: know what you mean about places getting deserted at night but retail areas suffer the same problem. boozers is what's needed :cheers:

Spinningfields needs both retail and leisure, otherwise a massive area of the city centre will be dead after 5pm.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/imKAKA.jpg springs to mind.

Manchester is a 24 hour city, not a 9 to 5 one.

Workers + residents = money = retail + leisure.

Ps. We made the same mistake with the area around the Arndale Centre. After 5.30pm it used to be a ghost town, thankfully that has now changed.

true, there's a lot of residential stuff going up on the castlefield side so cue a rash of tesco express & sainsburys locals :cheers: know what you mean about places getting deserted at night but retail areas suffer the same problem. boozers is what's needed :cheers:

Agree about the boozers. All us office workers are thirsty beasts. There would definatley be the market for it, and we won't have to end up in the piss poor Walkabout or Sports Cafe anymore :cheers:

Agree about the boozers. All us office workers are thirsty beasts. There would definatley be the market for it, and we won't have to end up in the piss poor Walkabout or Sports Cafe anymore :cheers:

try the white lion on liverpool street near the science & industry museum, now that's a proper boozer. it draws me in like a great big fucking magnet on the walk from sunlight house to where i park :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Are the Royal Bank of Scotland having any more office space? because they seem to be everywhere in Manchester. I've never noticed it befour but they have 3 or 4 large buildings on Mosley street and then aleast two new ones in Spinningfields.

Are the Royal Bank of Scotland having any more office space? because they seem to be everywhere in Manchester. I've never noticed it befour but they have 3 or 4 large buildings on Mosley street and then aleast two new ones in Spinningfields.

All the RBS operations from Mosley Street, Princess Street, Peter Street and Lowry House have been moved to the two Spinningfields offices. The only thing left that's actually used by RBS are the branches.
The whole point of the Spinningfields move was to put everything in one place rather than spread out as it used to be.The only execption is Direct Line House which is still used because of it's proximity to Spinningfields and the fact that it's quite a new building anyway.
The Hardman Boulevard office alone employs around 4,000 people. That's more than head office in Edinburgh!
I've no idea what's happening to those old offices.

"I've no idea what's happening to those old offices."

Bruntwood have bought them (well the two on Mosely Street anyway).

Well I would be delighted to see Spinningfields become a fully fledged shopping district although mixed retail and lesiure is definitely the way to go. Although the central shopping core is pretty vast I would love to see it spread through to Spinningfields to provide some counter balance to the equally vast and expanding Arndale Centre.

Interesting rumour re Armani. There are already two Armani brands represented in Manchester and both of them in neighbouring buildings on King Street. I'd imagine 2 Spinningfields Square would have to be a monumentally special building to tempt the Collezioni Armani store out of this little beauty..

http://www.catalystcapital.com/images/SCH-005.jpg
SHIP CANAL HOUSE, KING ST
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/buildings/ship-canal2.jpg
SHIP CANAL HOUSE, DETAIL
http://i2.tinypic.com/r9g947.jpg
SHIP CANAL HOUSE, DETAIL

Interesting rumour re Armani. There are already two Armani brands represented in Manchester and both of them in neighbouring buildings on King Street. I'd imagine 2 Spinningfields Square would have to be a monumentally special building to tempt the Collezioni Armani store out of this little beauty..

Also worth linking in to the Arndale Apple store postings from a few weeks ago.

The pdf map that was posted had an Armani Ex store shown right next door to apple.

According to my google-wapping this is an Armani Exchange store, which apparently "merges seasonal fashion items with Armani-basics". They appear to have stores in North America and the far east, but not so far in Europe.

Armani - the new subway?

http://www.nikfletcher.com/index_assets/upper-level.pdf
http://www.armaniexchange.com

^^ Interesting. I think one of those has just opened in Liverpool's Met Quarter development - a building which coincidentally seems to share the same exterior cladding as our Arndale extension!

jrb - any chance you could repost that article? All I can see is a broken-link photbucket image.

The scaffolding is now starting to come down on the Rossetti building,

^^ Interesting. I think one of those has just opened in Liverpool's Met Quarter development - a building which coincidentally seems to share the same exterior cladding as our Arndale extension!

jrb - any chance you could repost that article? All I can see is a broken-link photbucket image.

Can you see it now Sleepy? I hope you can, it cost me £25 for a 12 month premium account.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/yop1.jpg

unfortunately no, jrb. You post some great stuff but the link to your photobucket account where you host the images rarely lasts for very long.

"oops my image for this link is no longer here". You can only see it because its still in your PC's cache.

EDIT - I can see it now, thanks!

unfortunately no, jrb. You post some great stuff but the link to your photobucket account where you host the images rarely lasts for very long.

"oops my image for this link is no longer here". You can only see it because its still in your PC's cache.

What about now? If not I'll scan it again tomorrow and post it again.

Edit. :)

I see it Sleepyone...

...maybe try right-clicking on the picture, copying it's URL address, and pasteing it into the address bar...

Can you see it now Sleepy? I hope you can, it cost me £25 for a 12 month premium account.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/yop1.jpg


hmm, isnt this design slightly a bit arndale ish? (in a bad way)

That's the Leftbank apartment block, looking up Hardman Boulevard from the Irwell. I see what you mean about the bridge link but its not so low down so as to impede sightlines, block out light and foster that feeling of claustrophobia that the Arndale bridge link does.

Can you see it now Sleepy? I hope you can, it cost me £25 for a 12 month premium account.

I just register new accounts when mine get full.

Interesting articles. Retail is essential for Spinningfields and the view up Hardman Boulevard will look spectacular. Anybody know when the new bridge is going in over the Irwell?

thanks for that info jrb, I really like the sound of a big Armani store on Deansgate it should add a bit of class, although its talking bollocks saying JOSEPH wouldn't normally come to Manchester as there's already a Joseph shop in town, been there for years.

I really like that vision. Jeez, it's so realistic I can almost smell that classy rich dark coffee aroma from here along with those pastries and croissants that go with them. Thanks for that jrb. Mr Golden Nugget!

Hardman Blvd
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0680.jpg

New crane going up this morning at Hardman Sq
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0682.jpg

Scaffolding coming down fron Rossetti
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0683.jpg

Thanks highriser. Keep 'em coming! :okay:

I like the shot showing the imapct 4 Hardman Square is having on the Hardman Boulevard vista.

Rosetti is certainly looking interesting (I like the 'L' shaped piece on the roof) and, to echo what Sleepy said, the new hardman square building is having quite an impact.

Nice pics Highriser - much appreciated as I don't get into Manc much these days due to work commitments.

Off Deansgate

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4324/s34000154tu.jpg

Resurface the roads, and that would look bum!

Off Deansgate

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4324/s34000154tu.jpg
I dont think we'll have that view for to long because a building is going to be built between that New one(MEN building) and the older building on the Deansgate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/egi44.jpg

Shimla Pink's is close to signing a deal with Allied,,,they must be moving from Manchester House then :)

Interesting to see Sam's Chop House moving over to this neck of the modern woods, not to keen on Ha Ha and another Rouge mind - more Leicester (no offence) than Milan/Barca.

Is it a Manchester feature again in Estates Gazette then jrb? They seem to have two weeks every year about this time. Thanks for posting it up. What a nice picture.

Nice close up of the footbridge that will lead to the Leftbank apartments,,,wonder when that is due to be installed?

Is it a Manchester feature again in Estates Gazette then jrb? They seem to have two weeks every year about this time. Thanks for posting it up. What a nice picture.

Not sure Farsight?

I've got last weeks EGI Office edition reserved at WHSmiths. I'll scan and post the articles later this week.

Offence taken Northbitch, you're going in my bad book now ;).

The more bars/restaurants under leftbank the better.

ps, drink Holt's!

Shimla Pink's is close to signing a deal with Allied,,,they must be moving from Manchester House then :)

well spotted Highriser, my thoughts exactly

4 Hardman
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3 Hardman
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GMEN
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:drool:

Lovely...

GMEN building

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0695.jpg

Hardman Sq taking shape

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0698.jpg

I love the way that the new GMEN building reflects another great of Mancunian journalism. It pays hommage to the wonderful Daily Express building.

Taken today.

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top job jerb

I love the way that the new GMEN building reflects another great of Mancunian journalism. It pays hommage to the wonderful Daily Express building.

Intentional or otherwise, but yes it does Ranjit.

Ta for the pics there everyone. I intentionally drove through town today to have a look, the coloured bits on CJC really aren't as noticable as they appear on these pics. What a big mother of a building this is. I think we're going to love it, unless of course we have to 'appear' inside it.

A couple of quick ones.

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Quick it may have been, but that second shot is absolutely fantastic jrb. The reflections, the blue-white sky, the minimalist sentry-like poles, the minimalist sentry-like proles, the contrast of the ugly MEN building to the snazzy looking new ones. Seriously good pic. I like the top one too.

Quick it may have been, but that second shot is absolutely fantastic jrb. The reflections, the blue-white sky, the minimalist sentry-like poles, the minimalist sentry-like proles, the contrast of the ugly MEN building to the snazzy looking new ones. Seriously good pic. I like the top one too.


How do you know they're proles?

Because they don't have top-hats or monocles. :)

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haven't been on this side of town for ages - lots of construction!

There was a big hole in that road this morning. It looked like the road had just collapsed revealing a chasm of several feet. There were bits of tarmac hanging over the edge. The road had to be closed for a time whilst it was filled with gravel type stuff.

Wouldn't have wanted to be the first one to come accross that. :runaway:

Sounds like a collapsed sewer.

Did'nt have my camera today ,, but on the ground floor of the RBS building on Hardman Blvd ,,,there were load of film crews , filming something.

And does anyone know about a Handelsbanken ???
Well they are set up a branch on the ground floor , and loads of people were queing to get in,,,are there recruiting ????

Pehaps they were making a German pornograph within said building highriser? Film crews usually change the name of places (pubs etc) - have I hit the nail?

Did'nt have my camera today ,, but on the ground floor of the RBS building on Hardman Blvd ,,,there were load of film crews , filming something.

And does anyone know about a Handelsbanken ???
Well they are set up a branch on the ground floor , and loads of people were queing to get in,,,are there recruiting ????

They started setting up a couple of days ago and were filming all day today.
They were a Swedish film crew who had come to Manchester at the last minute because of poor weather back in Sweden.
The bank is fake, just a set. The filming was something to do with a busker & a women with a dog. The camera they were using looked like it was going straight onto film. Other than that I couldn't find out exactly who they were.

Could have been Northy,, but this Handelsbanken is a gen bank,,there from Sweden,,,fuck knows :)

^^ I was close... :)

Handelsbanken are definately a swedish bank. I was there in Feb. They have actually got a Manchester Branch.

Steelwork is now going up around the core's of 3HS
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The cladding for Rosetti looks great
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That's nice. Clean. Elegant.

Seen this before? I ain't...

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This project for a subterranean hotel spa and lifestyle retail building is currently being developed to a planning stage. Its form was derrived from broader masterplanning studies and acts both as an urban marker and as a means to re-align two major city axes.

Cost - £9m

Its the Spinningfields Hotel. I dont think the plans are still like that. However, there is still going to be a hotel on that site. Shame. I was quite fond of the 'Christmas Tree'.

Its the Spinningfields Hotel. I dont think the plans are still like that. However, there is still going to be a hotel on that site. Shame. I was quite fond of the 'Christmas Tree'.

Sorry you'll get used to this - I cotton onto things a few months too late! I hope the design replacing it is going to be as daring...

That there Christmas tree's good. I like that.

Genius, I don't understand what you mean when you say it'll 'act as a means to re-align two major city axes'. Which ones?

2-3 Hardman Boulevard with No1 Hardman Square in the background.

More interesting articles and renderings to follow tomorrow.

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Thanks again jrb. You really are a treasure.

That one as already got planning permission has'nt it ?
It will probably start once CJC is finished externally , like 3Hardman St will start once the MEN move into there new HQ .

Seen this before? I ain't...

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7327/sf2jo.jpg

This project for a subterranean hotel spa and lifestyle retail building is currently being developed to a planning stage. Its form was derrived from broader masterplanning studies and acts both as an urban marker and as a means to re-align two major city axes.

Cost - £9m

Northy starts 2 pull out hair..

not my pic

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For those who haven't seen this yet, I'm sure there's a few.

Gives a good impression of how Spinningfields will finally look.

It's mostly correct apart from the designs for No1 Hardman Square and the future building going on the Manchester House site.

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Thanks Jrb. So from that diagram, Quay House is definitely on it's way right? I wasn't sure if this had been clarified, but it looks that way on here.

I don't know if anybody else noticed, or already knew, but on the MIPIM scale model of the city, No.1 Hardman Square (the biggie) appears to have a sloped element that starts halfway down. Should be interesting, though like everybdy else, I look forward to more info on this one.

It's good to see the buildings that currently have cores in place on a map. I always struggle to place those when i'm 'on-site'.

thanks for all this info jrb, Spinningfields will indeed look superb

Wrappings coming off John Rylands now. I dont like the extension. The choice of stone seems wrong. Only have uncovered mins, maybe it will look better when completely uncovered??

I don't know if anybody else noticed, or already knew, but on the MIPIM scale model of the city, No.1 Hardman Square (the biggie) appears to have a sloped element that starts halfway down.

On this 1 Hardman is a non-descript 90m block.
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Wrappings coming off John Rylands now. I dont like the extension. The choice of stone seems wrong. Only have uncovered mins, maybe it will look better when completely uncovered??

Don't say that Gavin- that was my favourite building! What do you think of the pitched roof? I like it in general, but am a little disappointed that they have covered small sections of the building with the roof. You can still see them through the glass and the bigger picture will see an improvement i'm sure. Not so much a complaint as a 'niggle'.

I vistied JRL before the refurb so am very much looking forward to seeing the new and improved version!

Leftbank apartments taken today - while having a pint of stella at the Mark Addy

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That looks pretty damn smart. Shame the fella who designed this is dead now as he's done some wonders with ye olde red brick in the CDB.

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Is it odd that i can't wait to walk under this? -

It looks like they're getting ready to fit the glazed fronts to the retail units. Cheers for the photo Legin.

^^ f*ckin looks huge in that pic

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The retail units in Leftbank look absolutely enormous!

Roly PM.

replied jerb!

Roly - great pics - what is the second one of.

Leg's ,, its the RBS building facing CJC .looks great dos'nt it .

yeah you can almost make out CJC's reflection in that pic me thinks.

Bit of news on yet another ASL-designed project, the extension to the Pumphouse Museum. This one Im not so keen on though!

News - 31/03/2006 - QS sought for £10m museum

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Project manager Hornagold & Hills is seeking a QS to work on the refurbishment and extension of the People’s History Museum in Manchester.


The £10 million project will include the refurbishment of the Pump House and provide a £6 million new-build extension for use by the museum by 2009.


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Saw this when i was in t'pumphouse t'other day.
Dont like it - not a fan! *

*small prize for spotting the obscure reference there.

What an utter piece of crap :( I'm a big fan of the existing building with its twinkling red lights... this will ruin it :(

Whats happened to Austin Smith Lord? Have they taken on some Manc-haters?
This and City Buildings are taking the piss!

Longy,,i totally agree, both of them scemes are just NOT good enough for Manchester. That pump house extention is terrible , i'd rather the existing bulding was flattened and the whole museum was relocated somewhere else in the city.


I bought something better than that for my back garden from B+Q last year , and it was only £60.

ASL have gone from being a good solid, reliable practise to a gimmicky and cheap looking practise.
The Austin-Smith's will be turning in their graves (presuming they are dead - which i suspect they are)

Having got you all worked up with those images I must just point out that this is perhaps not the final building you are looking at.

Seems to be an indicative study for a (successful) Heritage Lottery Fund bid submission.




People’s History Museum, Manchester


The HLF Stage 1 study is a mix of consolidating the existing listed building and new build extension to provide the Museum with more space and an identity in Manchester.

Completion: The project started in January 2004 and took 3 months to complete.




..... and this from Jan 06.





Museum scoops £7m heritage grant.

A Manchester museum is to be expanded after receiving a Heritage Lottery Fund grant of more than £7 million.

The People's History Museum plans to merge its current two sites - on Bridge Street and Princess Street - into one to provide improved visitor facilities.

The proposed plan includes building an extension onto the Pump House building on Bridge Street.

The museum is expected to shut at the end of 2007 for re-development, with the new museum set to open in 2009.

The news was announced by Tessa Jowell, Secretary for Culture, Media and Sport.
"I am very pleased that the People's History Museum has been successful in securing Heritage Lottery Fund support," she said.

"It's important that Lottery money directly benefits the people who actually buy tickets, so a museum which celebrates real people's lives and tells their stories from the last two centuries is very deserving of a grant."

Nick Mansfield, director of the People's History Museum, said: "We are delighted that our application has been successful.

"This is an exciting time for the museum and we are looking forward to finalising our plans so that we can tell the story of ordinary people in an inspiring and engaging way to appeal to as many people as possible."

The museum tells the story of ordinary people and how they changed the world. The displays range from life in the Victorian cotton mills to the growth of football as a leisure activity.

Entrance is free for everyone.

Yeuw, £7million for that?

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Great game this heritage malarky.

Ugh, pretty rank isnt it!

and wheres my Doves sculpture ? :)

and wheres my Doves sculpture ? :)

Good point- where is 'your' dove sculpture?

Urbis, Imperial War Museum, Lowry.......... Pumphouse.

It might make the list of Museums that the city has to offer, but won't make it on the list as pieces of modern architecture that should be appreciated- not on this evidenbce anyway. And on the banks of the Irwell. Prime show case location! A missed opportunity it would appear.

Whats happened to Austin Smith Lord? Have they taken on some Manc-haters?
This and City Buildings are taking the piss!

Not as bad as the City Bdlg proposals, but awful nonetheless. Have ASL done anything decent?

Not as bad as the City Bdlg proposals, but awful nonetheless. Have ASL done anything decent?

Yeah loads. Nothing too breathtaking but like i say just a really good, reliable practise. Very clean and modern - not too many fancy tricks but a real panache. But the Peoples Museum is just weak and City Buildings is gimmicky rubbish.

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It's not that bad - seems to be have a 'Manchester School of Management' style feel/finish to it...

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(not particularly striking though)

Yeuw, that's bad.

Having got you all worked up with those images I must just point out that this is perhaps not the final building you are looking at.

Seems to be an indicative study for a (successful) Heritage Lottery Fund bid submission.

??

Can anyone confirm whether or not this is the final design?

Still a few funding issues to be resolved, but I believe this is pretty much the final design.

We saw the Pump Museum thing about a year ago. If that's still the design after all this time of site/news activity, I'd be quite amazed to be fair.

Why does The Peoples History museum need an extension anyway - whenever I've been in it's almost empty- wouldn't we be best using the money to build something different - such as give the owners of the Firestation on London RD a grant to kick start their music venue scheme etc etc

Heritage, Legin. That great little moneyspinner for quango drones who've never done a day's work in their lives.

Why does The Peoples History museum need an extension anyway - whenever I've been in it's almost empty-

They have a really big archive but not enough room to show it. Its a nice little museum and to Lefties like me very interesting. Manchester is the perfect place for this museum and it is important that Manchester's political and radical past is celebrated in some way.

Heritage, Legin. That great little moneyspinner for quango drones who've never done a day's work in their lives.

Here he goes again!
FYI Farsight the vast majority of work carried out in the Heritage sector is voluntary and it has been estimated that if paid for, the cost of voluntary help in heritage projects would be £3billion and amount to something like 160 million 'man hours'.
Of course some people make a living out of it but in terms of government funding it is tiny (and shrinking).

They have a really big archive but not enough room to show it. Its a nice little museum and to Lefties like me very interesting. Manchester is the perfect place for this museum and it is important that Manchester's political and radical past is celebrated in some way.

Here, here. There's so many people I know that didn't know the place existed, but once I have told them, they have been down and gone on to congratulate Manchester on having such a worthy and relevant museum.

They have a really big archive but not enough room to show it. Its a nice little museum and to Lefties like me very interesting. Manchester is the perfect place for this museum and it is important that Manchester's political and radical past is celebrated in some way.

Also it's good that Spinningfield is getting to keep the cultural aspect that already exists and that this is enhanced. I think if the facilities are good and in the right place- and lets remember by 2009 when the extension has finished this will be well and truly in the city centre, rather than the edge of- then people will visit. I'm all for this.

:okay:

Spinningfields today.

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full steam ahead yipeee!!! Manchester is really kicking everyones butts in terms of developments, no wonder the scousers are jealous..ooops did I say that?

When are the MEN due to move into there new offices ?

The building they are in now is rank, looking forward to seeing that bite the dust, for 3 Hardman St.

Nice clean pics, what camera was used?

Steel structure going up on this one in Spinningfield - don't ask me which one I get very confused when it comes to this development - BTW where is the original Spinningfield thread I can't find it anywhere!

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It wenr with the hacker I think and this Open Day thread was adopted as the Spinningfields thread, maybe its time for a new thread on this one now anyway??

Taken Friday.

Spinningfields starting to take shape.

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CJC toweing over No 4 Hardman Square.

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Beetham in the distance. Add to this No1 Hardmam Sqaure. Shame. :)

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Is any retail or owt going in these billboard panal things?

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^^^ i thought there was meant to be an art gallery going there

Great pics JRB, Spinningfields development is starting to look great. :)

"Irwell Square" - sounds like they have let out a couple of the gigantic triple height units at the Leftbank building, perhaps?


Leisure Letting - Manchester, Spinningfields

Date: 17 May 2006

Allied London, advised by Markham Vaughan Gillingham and GVA Grimley, has pre-let 11,000 sq ft (1,021 sq m) of restaurant space to Shimla Pink and Strada at its Spinningfields development in Manchester.

Shimla Pink, the Indian restaurant chain, has taken unit A6 on a new 25-year lease at an undisclosed rental. The unit provides a total of 5,000 sq ft (464 sq m) with external terracing on Irwell Square.

Unit A4 and A5, totalling 6,000 sq ft (557 sq m), has also been taken on a new 25-year lease by the pizza and pasta company Strada at an undisclosed rental. This is the chain's first restaurant in the north west and will feature the new design format by the expanding London based restaurant group.

Nigel Gillingham of Markham Vaughan Gillingham comments: "There was a lot of competition for this space and both restaurateurs were selected by the landlord as they offer new formats to the Spinningfields development."

Allied London's Spinningfields development comprises four million sq ft (371,600 sq m) of mixed-use space including shops, restaurants, offices hotels, apartments and car parking.



I think we need a proper spinningfields thread again rather than than two 'open day' threads...

^Too right

Great news about Shinla Pinks ,,means there current Manchester House resturant will be closing :)

By the way ,apprently a new resturant is opening on the last retail space at the base of the Edge apartments its on 2 levels fronting the Irwell ,the owner's are GroUK

thanks for that info sleepyness, I've heard Shimla Pink is really nice, never been though, anyone been? Is it any good?

Caw can you rename this thread please :)

Anyway , the demolition of the old MEN offices on Hardman St is starting ,,glad to see the back of that uglgy pile of shite :)

Yay!
:dance:

Good news indeed

If this article is anything to go by , construction of 3 Hardman St stars in August



A further 150,000 sq ft of additional space has been planned for the Deansgate area of Manchester.

Allied London, which is developing the site at Spinningfields say that they will build the new office regardless of whether it has signed up occupiers, reports the Manchester Evening News.

This news comes after is was announced last week that the firm had also been granted permission for the office design and build of a 400,000 sq ft site on Hardman Street in the city.

Manchester architects Sheppard Robson designed the office building, which consists of four tiers of space, with each one decreasing in size.

Mike Ingall, chief executive at Allied London, told the newspaper that the firm is primarily concerned with the creation of a "high-quality business environment".

Spinningfields has recently attracted an increased demand from businesses for new and innovatively-designed office space in Manchester.

Work is set to start on the site in August and is due for completion early in 2008.

Yep good news.

Caw can you rename this thread please :)



Would it not be better to start a new thread looking at the post count?

Thanks for the article H. Another biggie (taller than great northern!) set to start in Manc.

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Thanks for the article H. Another biggie (taller than great northern!) set to start in Manc.

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Taller than GN?!! Is this the 16 storey job at the back of Rylands Library? That image looks different from the original I saw, though the way it steps up is the same, so I'm assuming it's the same one. Good for Mcr if they're building this speculative (just a pity it's not 1 Hardman Sq they're building speculative - though that may happen if they gets tenant quickly for this building).

I didn't realise it was taller than GN :)

It's going to look pretty dense round that part of town soon.

Thanks for the article H. Another biggie (taller than great northern!) set to start in Manc.

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How tall will this be exactly ?

Went past again this afternoon , hoarding are now being put up around the site , with demolition workers going in and out . Bring it on :)

I don't think its entirely speculative. Barclaycard have taken approx 100,000 sq ft of its titanic 400,000 sq ft (approx) available space.

Didnt realise Guardian / MEN had moved accross the road to 2 Hardman Street already clearing the way for this behemoth to start.

Sleeps , i dont think the MEN have moved over the road yet , the demolition guys are preparing the Hardman Sq end of the existing building ,, should'nt be long now before they do move though.

How tall will this be exactly ?

Went past again this afternoon , hoarding are now being put up around the site , with demolition workers going in and out . Bring it on :)

75m :)

Here's a diagram i made earlier, in comparision with GN.

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Cheer's for that KITR , 3 Hardman St is gonna look a right beast on that corner .

I wonder if Allied London have asked if the occupants of Quay House if they want to relocate to one of there new building's ?

Cheer's for that KITR , 3 Hardman St is gonna look a right beast on that corner .

I wonder if Allied London have asked if the occupants of Quay House if they want to relocate to one of there new building's ?

It's deceptively tall, maybe becuase of its sheer mass. It would be great to get the last tenants out of Quay house, demolish the thing and get cracking with a nice 45 storey office tower at 1 Hardman Sq. Will be dense as fuck round there. Then when Granada move their HQ to the Bonded Warehouse on Water Street, there'll be all that land for some nice tall efforts.

If I were a multi-millionaire I'd buy that triangular building next to Granada TV - think it's the NBH HQ or something. Knock it down but build a 50+ storey tower on that site. No doubt it would be refused pp because the wind factor would be scary - but it would look terrific in that area. Also knock down the education building on the corner of Quay Street and Deansgate (where the Tesco and Sainsburys are - opposite the GN tower) and build a nice high tower on this corner - to give Beetham a nice high neighbour.

Longford could you please post a list of should be attendees for the Spinny open day next week. Cheers mate...in anticipation.

Couple of pics from Hardman Sq

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I think a new Spinningfield's ( Hardman Sq)thread is due ,, cos of the sheer size of 3 Hardman St , i think that wqill deserve a thread of its own .

When is the TOWER going up???