Does anyone know when the new West line will start/finish? Has the date been moved up?
After the NW & NE ext are complete is the West line next?
............curious CTrain fans want to know

^2014 apparently (http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/FutureW.html)

I do remember reading something somewhere that it would start alot sooner. Someone who actually lives in Calgary would have more info.

I'm surprise they haven't atleast extended the WestCtrain atleast from downtown even a couple of km to get the trains from downtown.
Yes, I understood it was starting in 2014 but with the new money I thought it would be pushed up like the NE/NW extentions. They are both to be done by 2008 and with the infastructure money you think it would start right after.

Yes, the Calgary Transit program says 2014, but then again, the Crowfoot LRT wasn't supposed to start until 2010 or 2011. It is under construction now. These schedules did not presume 1 billion coming from the province, or a gas tax rebate from the feds.

I would bet the west lrt starts construction within 5 years, once the science centre is in its nw home by 2009 or 2010.

Anyone have a map of the future West Extension. I can get transit maps and where they are to go but its more relevant if it is on the backdrop of an actual city map. It gives more scale and the area population and employment centres it will serve.
Anyone?

Here is a likely future map of all the lines planned.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/CTMapFuture-12222004.gif

Here is a more detailed map of the line by Steve Perry's site: LRT in Calgary (http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/Index.html) Which has all sorts of stuff on the LRT system including history of expansions, future plans, photos of almost every station etc. Great to check out! He is acutally a forumer on SSP.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/Future20West20Line.jpg

The prospect of the line is already drawing some high density projects: the is being built right at the future westbrook station - marketing revolves heavily around a future LRT line running there

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/Brava.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/brava.jpg

Man, I am so envious (from an Ottawa/Toronto standpoint) of how Calgary's got so much expansion! Good job. Is there a plan for one station every few years (seeing as how both lines have one station under construction)?

I hope they start building the tunnel downtown before they start on the west line. 7th Ave will not be able to have the 2 existing lines and the west line. Also with ridership going up on both lines it will be chaos downtown.

I hope they start building the tunnel downtown before they start on the west line. 7th Ave will not be able to have the 2 existing lines and the west line. Also with ridership going up on both lines it will be chaos downtown.

If you think about it, the West line will actually not add to congestion on 7th ave. As it stands, the trains reach the end of the line at City Centre and turn back NE bound. THe west line will just be an extension of that line, it will simply go all the way up the west line, then turn around and come back the same way through downtown and bakc up to the North East. Thus the interval between trains going down 7th would be the same whether the west line is there or not. The thing that will beging to really clog up things is increasing the capactiy of the system by decreasing intervals between trains at rush hour.

It will be decades before they bury 7th. The city is spending over 45 million dollars to upgrade the stations and line over the next 10 years.

That potential network looks amazing.Better than that Viva crap they're building in the TO 905 area.

Calgary has benefited from something that the 905, Vancouver, and Edmonton have not.......forward thinking and progressive planning.

Thanks for the link. How long will the West CTrain be?

I guess what I am asking for is a CTrain map that IS to scale to give an idera of the lenght of each line. Either that or a citywide map with the CTrain route on it.

This is the best I could find quickly. It includes the Crowfoot (NW) and West winds (NE) station under construction. The blue shaded areas are the projected areas of suburban growth over the next 20 years. The yellow lines are BRT routes - acting as pre-cursors to the future LRT lines. The West LRT follows the alignment of the 'middle' yellow line on the west BRT route. The North and SE C-train lines will be similar, but not the same alignment of the BRT routes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/c-train.bmp

Thankyou, that does help.
It gives me a reference of how long and expansive the lines and future lines will be. Its difficult to relay onto the actual city because the LRT maps aren't to scale.

Calgary has benefited from something that the 905, Vancouver, and Edmonton have not.......forward thinking and progressive planning.
/\ has it? Sure it developed a good highway/ arterial roadway system which was supposed to 'relieve' congestion, when in fact, it encouraged automobile use which has led to the congestion problem it now suffers. What's going to happen in 50-years when the infrastructure in these new low density neighbourhoods need replacing? My point is that although progessive in one sense, they too suffer from the same problems that occur in other cities.

Calgary has benefited from something that the 905, Vancouver, and Edmonton have not.......forward thinking and progressive planning.

Just a week ago, the city of Edmonton has approved what will be one of the most massive downtown redevelopment projects in the city's history. Called North Edge, it's supposed to add another 6,500 people to the downtown over the next 10-20 years with some more affordable housing. North Edge will include highrises up to 15 storeys, but most new residential development would be no more than 4-5 storeys in height. About 12,000 people already live in downtown Edmonton - up 50% compared to five years ago.

Because the future LRT line to NAIT runs through that area and also 105 Ave (to WEM) just north of Grant MacEwan, North Edge is more or less a large TOD area.

North Edge Development Concept Map:
http://www.edmonton.ca/OcctopusDocs/Public/Complete/Reports/CC/Elected-1995/2005-06-14/map%208%20-%20NorthEdgeDevConcept%20FEB05.pdf

THe North Edge should be great for Edmonton. It is a much needed plan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/c-train.bmp

Now this is what rail rapid transit networks should look like. The rail network reflects the shape of the city, hence practically gives coverage to a lot more people. I'm assuming Calgary uses buses to feed the main LRT lines, right?

Now all you need to do is replace those BRT lines with LRT lines and Calgary is now has a perfect transit network rarely found in Western Canada... ;)

Edmonton well planned?
yes, Edmonton does have a very nice river valley but its urban design has a lot to be desired.
By allowing the monster that at a city {WED}, they helped turn Jasper Ave into Casper Ave. The city has very low density. Its employment centres are not as well centralized as Calgary. They have actually spent more on their LRT than Calgary with just one/fifth of the ridership and not near the coverage area. They build the LRT NW but then made the bizzare decision to allow residential areas on the other end of town so now they have an LRT to no where.
They choose to build their International Airport too far out of the city.
Edmonton, like Vancouver has also not been able to get ahold of its crime problems unlike Calgary.
In some ways I like Edmonton becuase it does have a great theatre scene and some wonderful festivals {I wish Vancouver had the same} with a very nice river valley.
It is great to hear that downtown is repopulating and becoming more vibrant but the choices the city made.......sprawl, poor LRT planning, allowing WED is going to haunt Edmonton for a long time.

Edmonton well planned?
yes, Edmonton does have a very nice river valley but its urban design has a lot to be desired.
By allowing the monster that at a city {WED}, they helped turn Jasper Ave into Casper Ave. The city has very low density. Its employment centres are not as well centralized as Calgary. They have actually spent more on their LRT than Calgary with just one/fifth of the ridership and not near the coverage area. They build the LRT NW but then made the bizzare decision to allow residential areas on the other end of town so now they have an LRT to no where.
They choose to build their International Airport too far out of the city.
Edmonton, like Vancouver has also not been able to get ahold of its crime problems unlike Calgary.
In some ways I like Edmonton becuase it does have a great theatre scene and some wonderful festivals {I wish Vancouver had the same} with a very nice river valley.
It is great to hear that downtown is repopulating and becoming more vibrant but the choices the city made.......sprawl, poor LRT planning, allowing WED is going to haunt Edmonton for a long time.
Firstly, WEM mall was not the sole reason why Jasper Avenue fell on hard times. Another contributor was the closure of the Avenue to build the underground LRT. This caused many businesses to close and or relocate to other areas and not return. Secondly, and almost concurrently, the economic collapse of Alberta in the early 80's worsened the situation. So it was a combination of issues that lead to the high vacany problems on Jasper. Thankfully, with the increasing downtown population and healthy office market, Jasper Avenue is filling up. It still has a ways to go before it becomes a signature street, but it's on its way.

Sprawl - are you claiming that Calgary does not have low density residential neighbourhoods that radiate from the city center? What would you consider the neighbourhoods that consume all quadrants of the city? How much of these neighbourhoods are comprised with medium or high density housing product?

LRT to nowhere - I would agree with your statement 5-7 years ago, but that certainly isn't the case today. The majority of the area around Clareview Station has been developed with a fair amount of it medium density product.

Crime - since when was Calgary crime-free? Are you suggesting that Calgary has its crime in control? Explain the drug issue they are experiencing and increasing organized crime?

Where did this 200,000 daily Calgary LRT ridership stat come from? My brother rode the Calgary LRT and wasn't very impressed. Calgary is scary in that 75% of it is spaghetti streets sprawl. Those kind of developments are difficult to serve with public transit so it seems bizarre that they would have such a high ridership stat. Also calgary has several highways bisecting it.

Have you never seen downtown Calgary? The reason why ridership is so high is because such a large proportion of employment is downtown. Also, parking downtown is among the most expensive anywhere on the continent. Most stations have free park and rides as well.

Calgary was smart enough to make sure its businesses where highly centralised making transit service easier.
Of course Calgary has sprawl but its in one city where as so much of greater Edmonton is in disjointed cities like St.Albert, Strathcona County etc. Makes regional planning much more difficult.
Calgary is the ONLY city in all of western Canada to have both a crime and murder rate BELOW the national average.
Also, say what you want but Edmonton made a choice to allow the WED mall to be built and expand. I'm sure that downtown Calgary also suffered in the 80s but not near to the same extent and this despite the fact it didn't have LRT in 1980.
this has carried thru to today with Calgary having a far more diverse and vibrant downtown.

Here is a really good city document about the C-Train system in Calgary - it talks about the statistics. For instance in 1995, ridership on the LRT was 104 000 daily on weedays - that number swelled in 8 years by over 92% to over 200 000 per day in 2003. According to CT the current number is 221 000.

It also shows the alignment of the future lines and extensions better than that BRT map I posted ealier.

According to the City, at build out in about 20 years - the system will 112 km of track, 74 stations, 4 cars per train, a peak-time headway of 3.5 minutes and 325 LRV's. They don't estimate ridership, but my guess would be about 500 000 per day.

Link (http://www.calgarytransit.com/html/CT_strategic_development.pdf)

^^^
You seem to know quite a bit about the ctrain, I have a quick question
Do you know when they are going to be done the 4 car platforms on 7th and the south line?

Calgary was smart enough to make sure its businesses where highly centralised making transit service easier.
Of course Calgary has sprawl but its in one city where as so much of greater Edmonton is in disjointed cities like St.Albert, Strathcona County etc. Makes regional planning much more difficult.
So Cochrane, Airdrie et al. that are part of the Calgary CMA are not disjointed? Last I remember the majority of these areas were mainly comprised of low density development.

Also, say what you want but Edmonton made a choice to allow the WED mall to be built and expand. I'm sure that downtown Calgary also suffered in the 80s but not near to the same extent and this despite the fact it didn't have LRT in 1980.
Then disprove my arguments that the economic crash from the 80's as well as the closure of Jasper Avenue during the construction of the LRT had something to do with the downturn of Jasper Ave? WEM was not 100% at fault.

So Cochrane, Airdrie et al. that are part of the Calgary CMA are not disjointed? Last I remember the majority of these areas were mainly comprised of low density development.


This are low denisty developments but they are no where near as big as Sherwood Park and St. Albert, they are only about 20,000 people each. Also these cities are only about 20-30 minutes from downtown. I think think St Albert and Sherwood park are farther from the city core.

This are low denisty developments but they are no where near as big as Sherwood Park and St. Albert, they are only about 20,000 people each. Also these cities are only about 20-30 minutes from downtown. I think think St Albert and Sherwood park are farther from the city core.
True, but if you examine their growth rates, you'll realize that they are not slow growing cities. In fact, I believe they are some of fastest growing small cities in the country.

^^^
You are very correct, Cochrane was the fastest growing municipality last year I believe. IMO I do believe something will be donw in the near future i.e 2-3 buses during peak hours from Cochrane to Crowfoot Station when it is finished and same with feeder buses from Airdrie going to North Pointe terminal.

^^^
You seem to know quite a bit about the ctrain, I have a quick question
Do you know when they are going to be done the 4 car platforms on 7th and the south line?


The 7th ave ones are being done as part of the current project - which will take another 7-8 years to complete because they have to do only one station at a time. The south line will be done by about 2014 I believe. This timetable may move up as demand dictates however.

I realise that WED is not ressponsible for all of Edmonton's woes but it sure did hurt and then authorising its subsequent expansions. Building the LRT in the wrong area and then not developing areas arouns it by allowing huge risedential areas on other parts of the city. The proof is in the pudding when comparing the ridership levels of EdmontonLRT and CalgaryCTrain.
Edmonton does have a higher inner city crime rate which makes it less appealing.

It is very good to hear, however, that the downtown is coming back.

I realise that WED is not ressponsible for all of Edmonton's woes but it sure did hurt and then authorising its subsequent expansions. Building the LRT in the wrong area and then not developing areas arouns it by allowing huge risedential areas on other parts of the city. The proof is in the pudding when comparing the ridership levels of EdmontonLRT and CalgaryCTrain.
Edmonton does have a higher inner city crime rate which makes it less appealing.

It is very good to hear, however, that the downtown is coming back.
The point is, that was then this is now. The metro population is over 1-million, the economy is good and Edmonton, along with Calgary, have some of the highest disposible incomes. There is a reason why the overall retail vacancy rates in Edmonton have dropped.

Most of Edmonton's crime occurs in and around 118 Avenue. The east Jasper area is sketchy, but no more sketchy than the East Village or Victoria Park in Calgary.

True, past is past and it looks like Edmonton's centre is finally on the comeback trail and thats great but all I'm saying is that there are a few things that have been allowed in Edmonton that will inhibit here for a long term.

True, past is past and it looks like Edmonton's centre is finally on the comeback trail and thats great but all I'm saying is that there are a few things that have been allowed in Edmonton that will inhibit here for a long term.
And the same could be said about Calgary and every other city in this country.

All cities make mistakes, no doubt about it but WEd in in a class by itself.
I am very glad to hear that downtown Edmonton's population is growing so quickly.
I hope it doesn't become like Vancouver where there is only one type of housing choice......apartment/condo. There are almost no homes or even townhomes in downtown Vancouver and it gives the city a sterile look. In order for a downtown to be vibrant it must litterally try to offer all things to all people so that all can live and thrive there.
Totally impossible but that should be the goal in terms of housing. This encourages different types, sizes, and ethnicities to live and prosper that and that makes a great downtown.
Are there any row housing or high density single family housing going up downtown as well as the condos?
Pics would be great.

BTW................whats with Edmonton thinking of cancelling/delaying its SLRT line? Obsurd idea and confusing one seeing they just got all that infastructure fund from KingRalph.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Edmonton only has to look south to Calgary to see that if you build LRT they will come but not if you just put in a fast bus-route.

I hope it doesn't become like Vancouver where there is only one type of housing choice......apartment/condo. There are almost no homes or even townhomes in downtown Vancouver and it gives the city a sterile look. In order for a downtown to be vibrant it must litterally try to offer all things to all people so that all can live and thrive there.
Totally impossible but that should be the goal in terms of housing. This encourages different types, sizes, and ethnicities to live and prosper that and that makes a great downtown.


:weirdo: There are a lot of townhomes in Vancouver. What a silly statement about the lack of homes in downtown Vancouver. The reason why there is a lack of homes is because they're accomodating a lot of people in a small confined area (peninsula).

BTW................whats with Edmonton thinking of cancelling/delaying its SLRT line? Obsurd idea and confusing one seeing they just got all that infastructure fund from KingRalph.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Edmonton only has to look south to Calgary to see that if you build LRT they will come but not if you just put in a fast bus-route.
Where did you hear this?? Council already gave the go-ahead for the sLRT line awhile back. It's done.

Yes, there are some naysayers, but you get those people all of the time.

By the way, you are soooo incorrect when you say that downtown Vancouver is just apartment condos. You realize that the Planning and Development Department requires developers to incorporate a podium, which is usually comprised of townhouses. In fact, I'm willing to bet that at least 80-90% of all of the new condos in downtown Vancouver have a townhouse component.

Yes, downtown Edmonton is building anything from highrise apartments to midrise to lowrise to townhouses.

But the townhomes in Vancouver are part of a condo highrise. There are no old rowhouse type housing downtown, no individual but high density housing like you get in Toronto/Montreal. Even the WestEnd is almost devoid of houses except a few heritage ones. Nothing even remotly close to Toronto's Cabaggetown or Ottawa's SandyHill or Winnipeg' Broadway.
All of downtown Vancouver is steel and glass when it comes to residences.

But the townhomes in Vancouver are part of a condo highrise. There are no old rowhouse type housing downtown, no individual but high density housing like you get in Toronto/Montreal. Even the WestEnd is almost devoid of houses except a few heritage ones. Nothing even remotly close to Toronto's Cabaggetown or Ottawa's SandyHill or Winnipeg' Broadway.
All of downtown Vancouver is steel and glass when it comes to residences.

You don't get it do you? There's no room to accomodate row townhouses. Downtown Vancouver's land area is at least two times smaller than either downtown Toronto or Montreal. That's why they build high density to accomodate the demand by Vancouverites who want to live downtown.

Vancouver's downtown is like Hong Kong. There's no room, so they have to build up.

All cities make mistakes, no doubt about it but WEd in in a class by itself.
I am very glad to hear that downtown Edmonton's population is growing so quickly.
I hope it doesn't become like Vancouver where there is only one type of housing choice......apartment/condo. There are almost no homes or even townhomes in downtown Vancouver and it gives the city a sterile look. In order for a downtown to be vibrant it must litterally try to offer all things to all people so that all can live and thrive there.
Totally impossible but that should be the goal in terms of housing. This encourages different types, sizes, and ethnicities to live and prosper that and that makes a great downtown.
Are there any row housing or high density single family housing going up downtown as well as the condos?
Pics would be great.


Where are you going to put them? on the damn ocean, Like RT said You gotta build up in downtown Vancouver. That is simply the only choice, hence why downtown Vancouver is one of the most vibrant places in North America. Do your homework before you start typing.

Where are you going to put them? on the damn ocean, Like RT said You gotta build up in downtown Vancouver. That is simply the only choice, hence why downtown Vancouver is one of the most vibrant places in North America. Do your homework before you start typing.
Not only that, but land prices alone must be offset by developing as many units as you can. Basically, achieving the highest and best possible use of the site.

Townhomes could have built anywhere in the core or low rises. Vancouver is nothing but steel and glass downtown, no warmth or character.

Townhomes could have built anywhere in the core or low rises. Vancouver is nothing but steel and glass downtown, no warmth or character.
Ahhh, you've already stated that? Your point is???

Hahaha...you realize that the developers of those condos have created amazing amenity and people places above and beyond what many other cities have in newer developments.

I am very glad Vancouver has a dence downtown area its just they are alienating. Vancouver, unfortunatly, has a stellar record of tearing down its history infavour of glass boxes.

I am very glad Vancouver has a dence downtown area its just they are alienating. Vancouver, unfortunatly, has a stellar record of tearing down its history infavour of glass boxes.
Alienating, how so? The open spaces and plazas are very inviting and strategically located at various locations. Yaletown has a huge collection of older warehouses, which have been converted into loft housing and office uses. The highrise condos have been specifically designed to create a comfortable and inviting pedestrian environment through the use of podiums with townhousing or retail and point towers.

If you want a record of tearing down history for glass boxes, well I think that record goes to Calgary and Edmonton.

True, but especially Edmonton. Calgary managed to save its Stephen Avenue which is blessed with very nice sandstone buildings and character.

True, but especially Edmonton. Calgary managed to save its Stephen Avenue which is blessed with very nice sandstone buildings and character.
Yes, they are very fortunate to have 'saved' those buildings. VERY fortunate.

Today the c-train will start running on 10 minute intervals during midday instead of the old 15 minutes.

Excellent, this should definately help open up those cramped C-train cars during Stampede, even if just a little.

Toronto's TTC would be able to do a lot of this 'forward thinking' if it had more government funding. 90% of their system's income comes from ridership revenue. Cutting Toronto's one billion dollar and Ontario's 23 billion dollar per annum shortfalls (which are used to subsidized the so called 'have not' provinces) would allow the actual construction, not just dreaming up, of subways. Or, if by some mirraculous chance - oil were discovered in Ontario, the province and city of Toronto could be prevented from falling into economic stagnation.

On another note, warehouses are no substitute for 'strong' historic architecture such as the Canada Life building or the charm of Cabbagetown and the Annex's victorian townhomes. (I would have said the BC legislature, but I'm pretty sure the provincial government won't be moving out anytime soon)

Can anyone please post a picture of a Vancouver school that has this sort of 1920s-1930s urban elementary/highschool look? (Found in cities with real historic architecture)

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2909/orde7yw.jpg

I've opened the gates of hell, haven't I?

Stephen Avenue buildings are not "warehouses", where the hell did you get that idea?
They are very handsome storefront buildings on a very busy and attractive/vibrant pedestrian mall.
Edmonton managed to destroy most of its older heritage but Calgary did a better job of keepin its.

Anyway, back at the CTrain............any updates or news regarding line extentions?

Stephen Avenue buildings are not "warehouses", where the hell did you get that idea?
They are very handsome storefront buildings on a very busy and attractive/vibrant pedestrian mall.
Edmonton managed to destroy most of its older heritage but Calgary did a better job of keepin its.
It's not that Edmonton tore down most of its older buildings, Calgary always had a larger stock of historical buildings and as a result, it seems like they 'preserved' them better.

Toronto's TTC would be able to do a lot of this 'forward thinking' if it had more government funding. 90% of their system's income comes from ridership revenue. Cutting Toronto's one billion dollar and Ontario's 23 billion dollar per annum shortfalls (which are used to subsidized the so called 'have not' provinces) would allow the actual construction, not just dreaming up, of subways. Or, if by some mirraculous chance - oil were discovered in Ontario, the province and city of Toronto could be prevented from falling into economic stagnation.


I've opened the gates of hell, haven't I?

If they're not going to subsidize transit, they could at least stop subsidizing cars. If I'm not mistaken the auto industry receives huge subsidies in Ontario. If they did that there would be more of an even playing field

Good point.
I agree with the money issue, it simply has to be there.
It is however, not just a question of money but also of good urban planning and political will.
An ability to look all the nimbys in the face, take their concerns seriously and try to be accomodating but finally being able to just make a dicition one way or the other and get on with it.
Making sure you are open minded in your technologies making sure you provide excellent service but get good bang for the buck.
Edmonton is a classic example. Built a lovely subway for the same price as Calgary's Ctrain but got one third the distance of Ctrain and one fifth the ridership.....Vancouver's SkyTrain is also an terrible failure when compared to Ctrain in terms of money spent and results acheived.
Making sure you guarantee transit ROW years ahead so they can be used eventually instead of allowing them to be built up then requiring tunnelling or huge land aqusitions costs later on. Vancouver/GVRD/Translink/RAV are you listening?
Making sure that all highway upgrades having transit usuage in mind.
Making sure that you are not close-minded in you transit usuage and tchnologies and not wait til you only get what you demand but end up gettin few results with a lot of money spent. Are you listening TTC and your SpadinaExt?
You have to have money but you have to have more than just that.

Can anyone please post a picture of a Vancouver school that has this sort of 1920s-1930s urban elementary/highschool look? (Found in cities with real historic architecture)

Lord Byng Secondary, Kitsilano Secondary, Point Grey & Britannia comes to mind.

http://www.vancourier.com/issues03/092103/photos/top6.jpg

http://pointgrey.vsb.bc.ca/images/ischool.jpg

Heyyy! I saw that one on television, something about a mural.

There are plenty of 20s/30s schools throughout the GVRD. Many of the brick ones aren't very seismically sound though.

Hey it Sept 2nd and I hear that Alberta has just shelled out even more money for roads/ infastructure. Will that include more money for CTrain or EdmontonLRT?
Any word on when Calgary is going to start a NEW LRT line and which line it will be. I understand the WEST line will be next but one never knows.
I see Calgary Transit has updated its CTrain map to include the NE ext by 2007 and the NW Crowfoot ext by 2008.
Any new news?

There was a short article in the Hearald today about the increased funding for infrastructure, but it did not go into specifics about what the funding is going towards. But most likly the new west line would be started after the crowfoot line is finished most likely in 2009.

The Crowfoot is finished in 2008 is it not?
They should begin construction of West line soon so parts could open by 2009, its not like Calgary & Alberta don't have the money.

Alberta certainly has the money, but the government seems more interested in giving tax cuts than actually investing in the future. They should give a good portion of the money to the major cities to build transit and to make them more livable, we are going to need these improvements in order to handle the growth in the population, since more and more ppl are going to moving here.

I believe they should use that money to diversify the albertan economy. God knows what will happen if they don't. Although I'm sure they've enough money to invest in cities and diversify.