MELBOURNE: Inner Melbourne Projects (Carlton, East Melbourne, South Yarra, Richmond)

[tayser]

well, really, we've come to this development (i.e photos of) when the whole development site is about 70 - 80% complete.

The Chapel building (13 levels + 1 LMR) is maybe 6 months from completion ? I was watching this mid-rise grow all of last year (my train goes through South Yarra), and anyhow, finally we have some pics of it!

Renderings first:

This tower certainly IS South Yarra - Chapel Building:

http://www.mirvac.com.au/content/homes_apartments/melbourne/sy21/1.jpg

construction pics of Chapel Building:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy21280103-2.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy21280103-4.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy21280103-5.jpg

see what I mean by it's almost complete ? :D

And Malcom on Chapel (the second tallest in the development, either 11 or 12 levels)

http://www.mirvac.com.au/content/homes_apartments/melbourne/sy21/m2.jpg

it's probably only 1 or 2 levels above ground atm (couldn't see much)

construction pics:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy21280103-1.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy21280103-6.jpg

And, I had a little stroll around the rest of the development:

3rd tallest in development on left:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy211.jpg

This is something I'd love to live in:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy212.jpg

The 8 - 9 level thing out the back isn't part of SY21 - one of those original apartment blocks fronting the Yarra:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy213.jpg

The Como ain't bad for an 80s development:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy214.jpg

tays

PS: lemme know if the images are too large, I only just got this cam, and am experimenting with editing the image's sizes (physical and size of file etc)

cheers!

[Aussie Steve]

There is an 11 storey tower proposed for the corner of River St & Malcom Street too. Not to mention the numerous towers noth of Malcom Street between SY21 and the Como development.

[tayser]

is the River & Malcom street proposal literally nextdoor to the Malcolm building @ SY21 ??

there is a vacant site there - wasnt too sure about it though, it looks as though it's an extension to SY21 etc ....

:? :?

tays

[Aussie Steve]

The proposal for the vacant corner site is not part of SY21. I sent you scaned line drawings of it a few weeks ago. I guess you never got them. I will try and send them to you again.

[tayser]

scanned line drawings ?

I got the pics of Australand's site, but nothing else :? :? :?

tays

[uewepuep]

Lots of stuff happening today! Alot of noise coming from the site.
<img src="http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/dandaman/scrapers/chapel st (18).jpg">


<img src="http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/dandaman/scrapers/chapel st (19).jpg">
And no thats not my car.

[joed]

I have been doing some visualisation work on the Tribeca development in east melbourne.

The main tower will be 13 floors. At one stage it was to be 26 floors, but the local 'action group' apposed it. Which I agree with as 26 floors in that area really wouldn't fit in.

Anyway, went by it today (as my sister lives very close to it) and the whole building has been guttered and it looks really cool with just the facade standing. Well worth a visit if in the area.

Couldn't see another thread on this so hopefully I'm not doubling up!


James.

[tayser]

nope no thread for it - renamed to official ;)

if someone can point me in the right direction (i.e give the address) I'll go and snap a few pics next week.

tays

[joed]

Tayser, thanks for that.

the building is on the corner of Powlett Street and Victoria Parade. Can't miss it.

there's also a display suite on Victoria Parade, haven't been in to check it out yet though!


James.

[tayser]

founds these (realestate.com.au)

THE ultimate:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5793/1635793ml1046809976.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9515/1639515ml1047009996.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9515/1639515bl1047009970.jpg

why can't whole new suburbs look like that ? ;(

[Grollo]

Is this still what it will look like?

http://www.realestatelogic.com.au/investment_properties2/258.jpg

[Dean]

Yeah that's it Grollo.

Named after the famous New York district with the same name. (Tribeca) stands for TRIangle BElow CAnal St.

Its a fantastic mix of several different buildings with the interiors designed by the famous Phillipe Stark. This alone added mega dollars to the price of Units.

Most if not all are sold in all the buildings.

The fully restored facade of the late 19th century CUB Brewery will be incorporated with the new developments.

It's ideally located on Victoria Parade in the very leafy and high priced location of East Melbourne.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

[Philip Burt]

For the past couple of weeks it's been swarming with construction workers so it looks like things are starting to really happen there.

[Cornholio]

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Yeah that's it Grollo.

Named after the famous New York district with the same name. (Tribeca) stands for TRIangle BElow CAnal St.

Its a fantastic mix of several different buildings with the interiors designed by the famous Phillipe Stark. This alone added mega dollars to the price of Units.

Most if not all are sold in all the buildings.

The fully restored facade of the late 19th century CUB Brewery will be incorporated with the new developments.

It's ideally located on Victoria Parade in the very leafy and high priced location of East Melbourne.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne</td></tr>
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Thanks for the trivia Dean, I've seen that word around a bit, and now I know what the hell it means. Once more to the well...Is it pronounced Try-bekka or Trib-ekka?

Cheers

Kasey

[Aussie Steve]

Try-bekka

[Cornholio]

Thanks,

Kasey

[tayser]

just been going through old APE threads and was reading through some South Yarra threads - the Claremont 12 level tower had apparently been back and forth between VCAT and Stonnington................. ANYHOW

I've been watching the existing buildings on the site being cleared over the past couple of weeks and it's now just a big & bare site!

Between Yarra Street and Claremont Street, right next door to South Yarra Station (to the right in this map)

http://www.street-directory.com.au/victoria/victoria_genmap.cgi?x=2499310&y=4406826&level=6&star=&sizex=570&sizey=570&company=

has it been approved ? Aussie Steve: you heard anything about it ? Grollo ? anyone?!?!

tays

[silvermb]

this is going to become one cool tower

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tribeca_20030313.JPG

[joed]

Silvermb, I think the proposed 13 story tower looks pretty ordinary actually.

But I like the mix of retail and residential.

Also, nice pic!

It looks really cool with just the facade standing.

James.

[Muse]

More facadism.....http://dj.comtv.ru/smales/sad/nixweiss.gif

[Aussie Steve]

No plans for that site at the moment.

But as you can see from that map above, the area to the east of the train line, west of Chapel St, north of Toorak Rd and South of the river shoudl be a haven for highrise development. But the Stonnington City Council doesn't have the guts to develop a design guideline for that precinct. It could become be a mini-CBD for South Yarra.

[tayser]

Crane of the Malcolm building in full swing today - taken from Platform 1 at South Yarra (couldn't be arsed getting off the train and walking over there - too hot lol :D)

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/sy211703031.jpg

[tayser]

you sure there's nothing planned ? this screams "site preperation" to me!

as I said in the SY21 threads, excuse the station fence, couldn't be stuffed getting off the train ;)

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/claremontstreet.jpg

tays

[Aussie Steve]

I know nothing! I guess I coudl write to council asking about the site and the Fun Factory as well as Como North!

[Aussie Steve]

Fresh off the press, the Stonnington Leader reports that the Fun Factory development will go ahead soon. They are just finalising their plans and getting read for a launch next year. They are also waiting for the leases to expire.

I guess they are also waiting for SY21 to be completed before they start marketing the FF site.

[tayser]

sweeeeeeeeeeet.

S. Yarra's quite the little achiever eh!

shameless plug of my own pics again ;)

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/syarra1.jpg

FF - poking up in a skyline near you ? (or was that too ambitious ? lol)

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/syarra2.jpg

from memory FF is about 90m tall ? and Mirvac are the FF developers ?

:guns1:

[Aussie Steve]

Stonnington Leader
17 March 2003

Building work on a $200 million development at the South Yarra Fun Factory site is not likely to start until next year.

Developer South Yarra Fun Factory Holdings [SYFFH] said plans for the 27-storey residential and retail precinct were being fine tuned, with architects and engineers having to meet conditions imposed by Stonnington Council.

SYFFH director Marcel Gilbert said the company was also waiting for lease arrangements to expire......

The precinct will include 215 residential apartments, 78 serviced apartments and 12,000sq m of retail space over four levels.....

A four-level basement will hold a 666-space car park......

[Grollo]

An FKA tower on the corner of Chapel and Toorak, it doesn't get any better than that!

Also it will cover up one wall of thd disgusting ANZ building next door which is by far the ugliest skyscraper in Australia, we used to call it the ASIO building because it looks like it could withstand a nuclear blast (in fact it looks like it already has :-)

[tayser]

anyone still got the FF renders ?

if this goes ahead (ff) might as well make this a whole South Yarra thread ;)

tays

[Grollo]

FF wil be 92m which is 12m higher than the 80m high Como Centre. It's going to make a huge impact on the South Yarra Skyline.

[Timecode]

Hi guys,

Great forum!

Have just joined up after seeing a link on a property investing website. Just wanted to say Thanks to silvermb for the latest pics of Tribeca, as I have bought in the development (about 18mths ago) and this is the first Ive seen of its progression.

Thanks again,

Timecode.

[Grollo]

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Great forum!

Have just joined up after seeing a link on a property investing website. Just wanted to say Thanks to silvermb for the latest pics of Tribeca, as I have bought in the development (about 18mths ago) and this is the first Ive seen of its progression.

Thanks again,

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Welcome Timecode,

Here is a press release about the development:

The Premier, Steve Bracks, today turned the first sod in the construction of Tribeca, a building project that will transform one of Melbourne's famous landmarks, the Old Victoria Brewery in East Melbourne.

Built in 1854 but derelict since 1995, the Brewery, where Victoria Bitter beer was first created, will be transformed into a $240 million residential and retail precinct.

"It will retain part of Victoria's industrial heritage and combine it with contemporary design," Mr Bracks said. "Gone are the days when buildings with period charm and historic appeal were bulldozed - taking a piece of our history with them.

"The decision to preserve and restore features of the old brewery along with cutting edge design and innovative new living spaces is an inspired one."

Mr Bracks said the Tribeca development was part of the enormous growth in building activity transforming Melbourne.

"Building activity in Victoria reached an all time high of $13.8 billion in 2002 - $1.5 billion above the record set in the previous year. And approvals in metropolitan Melbourne were up 10 per cent at $10.9 billion," Mr Bracks said.

"This activity is transforming Melbourne and has finally seen some of the city's most infamous sites redeveloped.

"Tribeca follows in the footsteps of the rejuvenation of other dormant sites in Melbourne – like the old Southern Cross Site and the Queen Victoria site."

Mr Bracks said the development included restoration of the heritage walls.

"Several existing buildings will be retained including the historic Brew Towers, the Bottling Hall, trusses over the central public courtyard and a number of the vintage beer cellars," he said.

Tribeca East Melbourne is a joint venture project between R. Corporation, Red C and Babcock & Brown and is one of the most unique mixed-use developments in Australia.

It includes the work of internationally renowned designer Philippe Starck.

[joed]

Attached is a render of the proposed tower (The Victorian).

I think I have a few of the textures wrong, but this is pretty much what it will look like. Rendered using 3dsmax done last night.

http://homepage.mac.com/jbadcock/Developments/tribecatwr.jpg

[Cat]

:rant:

no need to scream "site prep" tays

previous owner was a yeast factory removal of equipment and site clean up meant it was easier to remove buildings as well as plant .....plenty of slabs left on ground if you care to step from the train.

not site prep .......site clean

awaiting plan from current owner to be posted ie yawn more resi for SY

[tayser]

dang.

thanks for that cat!

tays

[Cornholio]

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There was something recently in the local rag about the Fun Factory site being approved for a 20+ storey tower and redevelopment.....I'll try to find it, but I usually throw it straight out.

Now that would be something to see, esp with the site between SY21 and Como getting a 17 storey, 2 x 13's and some other buildings (from memory)

Cheers,

Kasey

[tayser]

merged SY21 / Claremont street threads into one

[Philip Burt]

Not a pretty site for some - these were taken yesterday.

http://www.zenid.net/upload/images/62.jpg

http://www.zenid.net/upload/images/63.jpg

http://www.zenid.net/upload/images/64.jpg

http://www.zenid.net/upload/images/65.jpg

[joed]

I'd hate to be living in those apartments next door - see the first photo.

Good work on the photo's Philip :)


James.

[Grollo]

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I think I have a few of the textures wrong, but this is pretty much what it will look like. Rendered using 3dsmax done last night.

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So it's 15 levels, or is the top level just a plant level? Do you have a height for the tower Joed?

[joed]

The tower is only 13 floors Grollo. the top section is a plant room. I don't have to exact height of the tower on hand but i can get it for you.


James.

[tayser]

not a bad view, not bad at all ;)

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1119/1551119cl1047557861.jpg

[joed]

The tower will only be about 47m in height.

Roof RL 63.7
Base RL 23.3

On top of the roof you have the plant room which is about 6.5m.

Anyone taken any photo's around there recently?


James.

[Aussie Steve]

Heritage Victoria (http://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/Heritage_Conversions.html) has given permission for the former Victoria Brewery in East Melbourne to be further converted into apartments, but with a number of conditions.

http://www.ahc.gov.au/cgi-bin/rne_photodb/rne_photodb.pl?action=get_photo&photoid=18228&phototype=P&indigenous=

The future of the site has been uncertain for more than a decade. Under the latest plans approved by Heritage Victoria, the inside of the building - including the old brewing towers and the bottling halls - will be converted into apartments. As well as flats, there will be space for shops and parking. Some of the brewing equipment will be taken away, but some will be kept as a reminder of the building's past.

The design was drawn up by Bruce Henderson Architects in South Yarra and marketed as TriBeca, with some of the interiors designed by Philippe Starck.

The permit issued by Heritage Victoria comes with a number of conditions. For instance, there can be no new opening to the Albert St Façade. The permit also prevents a number of windows shown on the architect's drawings, in order to keep as much of the building's original look as possible. The developers must also: put together an 'Interpretation Plan', using reports on the history of the brewery. Eventually, there must be a display showing how the brewery worked; Draw up a program of conservation works to the buildings and equipment; Provide a management plan for the use, ownership and management of the Brewing Tower No 1; Repair Brewing Tower No1 and the Old Brew Tower façade by 2005; Provide a $1 million bank guarantee for conservation works.

This is the third permit issued by Heritage Victoria for the former Victoria Brewery in the last ten years. (The application was lodged 9th November 2001.) Heritage Victoria received a number of objections to these most recent proposals from members of the East Melbourne residents group and the National Trust. The Executive Director believes the plans will retain much of the brewery's heritage while at the same time providing a viable future for the site.

Construction of the Victoria Brewery began in 1884. No 1 Tower contains the largest collection of brewing equipment in Victoria. No 2 Tower has a split-level format, tiled interior, stairs and plants of domed copper following the style of the Germanic brewing halls. The street facades and towers create a dominant landmark on Melbourne's skyline.

http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/b/1/2/im/b12824.jpg

The former Victoria Brewery is the longest-surviving brewery site in the State and was a leader in the technological revolution in Australian brewing. It's also important for its associations with two brewers with world-wide reputations, Auguste Joseph F de Bavey and the American-German brewing expert, Augustus J Metzler.

[barneybuck]

Great stuff AS makes me feel thirsty just reading about it:cheers:

[A-brain]

I drove up along the Victoria St frontage today and I looking into what I think was the display centre section (or at least a very early finished part) ... and I tell you ..

SCHMICK AS !! isnt doing it justice.. the decor inside is heaven ... much more than just brushed steel and lime green but really funky mix of classic and modern ...

[tayser]

bumped so as thread wont get deleted

[silvermb]

demo work weekend passed
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tribeca_20030510.JPG

[tayser]

small update:

SY21 Malcolm building looks to be up to about level 5 (judging by looking over the Como from the Train at Hawksburn and South Yarra)

Aussie Steve: heard anything on the Fun Factory site / any other proposals in the local paper ?

tays

[Aussie Steve]

nothing else is happening at the moment around South Yarra. We keep waiting for more news on the Fun Factory site and the Como North site. But I guess we will have to wait 'till at least the end of the year, I think, before any more news. :(

[metropolitantransit]

My father is the director (owner) of Melbourne's biggest estimating firm SCM, he's done it all. FCurrently he is working at Fed. Sq. MCG Tribeca and Docklands projects. He has done Melbourne Museum, CityLink and lots more.

I AM LUCKY, becuase my father gave me the floor-plans and architects blue-prints and drawing for the buildiong, however they are too big to scan.:guns1:

[joed]

I'm just started working on more visualisation for Tribeca. And have now been given mosts of the drawings in electronic format. Though the drawings are of each building, as apposed to the whole development.

On the Victoria Parade side there's about 4 retail tenancies. Haven't heard anything about who the retailers are though. I would imaging a couple of coffee shops at least.

James.

[Philip Burt]

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I remember <i>The Melbourne Times,</i> last year stating that Tribeca was gunna have a supermarket in it. I wonder if that plan has gone by the wayside.

[joed]

One of the tenancies seems fairly large - ie bigger than a coffe shop. So it's plausable. But haven't heard anything!


James.

[Philip Burt]

Still only groundwork being done on this site, but at least there were dozens of workers there today (Saturday afternoon) - they knocked off just before I took these.

http://pnavy.com/prburt/albums/album02/IMGP0254.jpg

http://pnavy.com/prburt/albums/album02/IMGP0251.jpg

http://pnavy.com/prburt/albums/album02/IMGP0245.jpg

http://pnavy.com/prburt/albums/album02/IMGP0248.jpg

[silvermb]

Seems to be an untold number of midrise towers going up here, most of which are unknown to me, but the increasing number of cranes in the area got me interested. With a few more in the pipeline, this area of town will become a wall of 10-15 level towers all the way up to Melbourne Uni. If anyone knows the names/addresses of these projects, correct me please. images from the start of the year to date

Universe student accomodation
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uni_20030513.JPG

Apartments Uropa
the largest project, has three buildings with the largest (Seasons) just commencing construction.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uropa_3.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uropasa_2003.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uropa_20030410=1.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uropa_20030516sub.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uropa_20030530sub.JPG

cr Swanston/Queensberry??
no idea, except that they've piled the crap out of the site.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/unknown_20030508.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/unknown_20030513.JPG

474 Swanston (close enough to) with another proposal next door
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/474s_20030410.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/474s_20030508.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/474s_20030530.JPG

[tayser]

hah, what was the description you gave this again silvermb:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uni_20030513.JPG

...please refresh my memory ;)

tays

[silvermb]

bee-hive

[Aussie Steve]

These three developments are very, very poor quality. Worse then Central Equity!! They look like dog boxes, full of students who don't care about the quality and finish of these cheep flats (cos they are not apartments in my mind) and purchased by overseas investors. They will, NO, they "have"already dated and look very poor along what should be a great mixed use zone - Swanston Street. :(

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uni_20030513.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/474s_20030410.JPG

[A-brain]

Oh yeah.. I forget the name of those apartments in the last pic .. Arrow 21 or something.. but they are out and out the *cheapest* apartments in Melbourne - both in price and quality..

They are purely intended as 100% student accom from RMIT and Melbourne Uni which is why they are pretty rough..

But Uropa and a few other developements are more quality .. I like the already completed apts near corner of Grattan & Swanston with the swimming pool like blue tiliing around the facade..

[Bluestar]

I believe that is our old friend Katsilidis. Together with the Asia Centre and the other nearby Melb. Uni building, Nonda's got a presence up that end.

Blue

[Blabbyboy]

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That's right, A-Brain...if it looks good, it is only becos it's NFK. Actually, the Myer Asia Centre is a Karl Fender, not a Nonda job. But the Ian Potter Gallery is indeed a Nonda job. Great bookends. Once you get to Melb Uni, the architecture pics up heaps.

Silvermb, shame on you for not walking across Lincoln Square to the new Melb Uni buildings south of Grattan by Metier 3. They should all be open by now, and as I've said before, they all (including the new Law building on Pelham St) capture great skyline views from the north. At dusk, it is magical!

[Grollo]

Seasons Apartments:

http://www.reapfield.com.sg/seasons_apartments/seasons_apt.jpg

Apartments Uropa:

http://www.reapfield.com.sg/apartments_uropa/synopsis/building.jpg

[Blabbyboy]

Also, did anyone get pics of the new buildings at the top end of Swanston (I think it's the new Royal Dental Hospital and maybe part of the Royal Womens' Hospital).

[tayser]

pics thanks to SteveMelb

http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/gallery/galleries/Tour_2003-06-11/image022.jpg

http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/gallery/galleries/Tour_2003-06-11/image018.jpg

http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/gallery/galleries/Tour_2003-06-11/image021.jpg

[silvermb]

universe dont look so bad now that its facade is starting to appear

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uni_20030704.JPG

seasons apartments. this is the biggest pumper ive seen in Melbourne, five section arm covered the whole site as they were pouring sub levels yesterday

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uropa_20030704.JPG

trinity apartments crane with the still unknown site in the foreground. looks to be another 15-odd level building.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/arrow_20030704=3.JPG

[Aussie Steve]

Now that is what I call a crap design. :(
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uni_20030704.JPG

[Blabbyboy]

I can't believe you were so close to the University Square towers and yet nobody has gone up to take that brilliant pano views!!!

[Grollo]

South Yarra update:

VCAT has approved plans for an 11 level, 38 metre high tower at 10 Claremont Street.

VCAT has also given final approval to the Australand development, so it should start marketing some time this year.

The City of Stonnington is in negotiations with the owners of the old Yeast Factory and Tetly Tea Factory sites in Yarra Street. There are large mixed use proposals for each site including 12 storey towers :-)

[BigVman]

That's good news Grollo. I look forward to development of the yeast factory site. I miss the smell though!:cool:

[Aussie Steve]

The Stonnington City Council approved the Forest Hill, South Yarra Design guidelines on Monday night. I have a copy at home and in general, it allows for 3-4 storey podiums along the street frontages and up to 12 stores high, set back 3- 5 metres in the area bounded by Chapel St, Toorak Rd, train line and Melbourne High School. Yipeeeeeeee

[tayser]

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
The Stonnington City Council approved the Forest Hill, South Yarra Design guidelines on Monday night. I have a copy at home and in general, it allows for 3-4 storey podiums along the street frontages and up to 12 stores high, set back 3- 5 metres in the area bounded by Chapel St, Toorak Rd, train line and Melbourne High School. Yipeeeeeeee

I am truly amazed by Stonnington - here's me thinking, with Toorak in their suburb entourage, that they'd be extremely anti-high-rise!

If they allow for multiple towers on podiums, that cleared site, right on SY station, could hold at least 3 towers!

mmmm.

tays

[BigVman]

This is goodness:D
This area is ripe for decent development. It's right next to train station and Toorak road, yet has been an industrial area up until now. Good size resi development is a good thing and it doesn't really affect any "ambience" or street scape as it's been a dud area up until now.

[tayser]

Age has an advertisement with "final chance - new apartments in heritage facade"

www.tribecaapartments.com.au

tays

[Grollo]

Australand has confirmed that it's Como project will be released on the market in the second half of this year, so we should see some nice renderings over the next couple of months.

[tayser]

Originally posted by Grollo
Australand has confirmed that it's Como project will be released on the market in the second half of this year, so we should see some nice renderings over the next couple of months.

good stuff.

Aussie Steve: did you happen to keep a copy of the renderings you emailed me a few months ago?

I can't find 'em on my PC, could you send them again, if possible ?

cheers

[silvermb]

still no idea what it is but its getting a crane so it should be decent

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483austin_20030821_2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483austin_20030821_1.jpg

wouldn't be construction without a bunch of guys standing around doing nothing

on a side issue, this is the seventh crane base to be poured and waiting in addition to the 50 plus tower cranes around Melbourne, some sort of record?

[Blabbyboy]

Silvermb, do I have to hold your hand to get you to go to the new Melb Uni Law School to take the fantastic panos of the skyline from the north?!!!! SOMEBODY GET UP THERE!!!

[tayser]

LOL!

Blabbs, YOU NEED A DIGITAL CAMERA

full stop.

:)

[Blabbyboy]

This is why I stopped my National Trust membership. What's wrong with the cheese grater? Have you seen what's on the current site? Sweet FA! The anti-development Save Our Suburbs is damaging to Melbourne's prosperity and character!

Melb 2030 makes plenty of sense. Rescode, on the other hand, is a different issue...I see it as stifling design excellence.

From the Age:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/08/21/1061434984428.html

Trust warns of history 'crunch time'
By Royce Millar
City Reporter
August 22, 2003

The National Trust will take to the streets next week to warn that State Government planning policies are threatening historic inner Melbourne.

The trust will hold a rally in Carlton to call for a moratorium on major housing developments under the Government's 30-year planning blueprint Melbourne 2030.

"It's crunch time for Melbourne's historic inner city," the trust's Victorian chairwoman, Dianne Weidner, said yesterday. "The trust supports the broad aims of Melbourne 2030 but without clear local strategies, 2030 threatens the heritage of inner Melbourne."

According to the plan, released last October, the Government wants to concentrate new housing within existing metropolitan boundaries and rein in urban sprawl.

It has asked councils to develop their own plans to accommodate 2030, which they are now doing.

But since October, the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal has used the document to approve controversial housing projects opposed by councils, including the "cheese-grater" apartment complex in Fitzroy.

Ms Weidner said VCAT's use of Melbourne 2030 had been "premature" because councils had not had the opportunity to complete local plans. She said 2030 was having "unintended impacts" on Melbourne's historic streetscapes and called for a moratorium on development approvals in its name until the local plans are in place.

Resident group Save Our Suburbs has backed the National Trust rally.

"The fact that an austere body such as the trust is being driven to the streets to defend our heritage should alert the Government to the seriousness of this situation," SOS president Nigel Kirby said.

Speakers at next week's really will include former ALP national president and heritage champion Barry Jones.

A spokesman for Planning Minister Mary Delahunty last night rejected the call for a moratorium. He said Ms Delahunty would meet the trust to stress that heritage was an important part of Melbourne 2030.

[Blabbyboy]

Originally posted by tayser
LOL!

Blabbs, YOU NEED A DIGITAL CAMERA

full stop.

:)

(sigh).:D

[silvermb]

nice to see some cranes down Victoria Parade again, what happened to Porsche Tower over the road? there seems to be plenty of development sites either side of the Parade. If they were developed well, Vic Parade would asthetically look better than St Kilda Rd, in my opinion.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483tribeca_20030826.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483tribeca_20030826_2.jpg

[silvermb]

Porsche Apartments; Victoria Parade, Collingwood
The Porsche apartments are being developed with Multiplex and Porsche Cars Australia. The project has just received planning approval. The 17 storey building, next to the Porsche showroom in the City of Yarra, houses about 170 apartments, parking, offices and additional areas of car show rooms. The apartments are aimed at the middle price range market.


we need some more architecture like this
http://www.a-r-m.com.au/projects/projimg/porsche.jpg


i also read recently that the Freemasons/Mercy Hospital (the one near Tribeca)??? redevelopment involved a submission for a decent sized residential tower that ran into planning/Heritage issues -who knows!?

[tayser]

Question is though: would they market it as "Collingwood" or "East Melbourne" ;)

EDIT: DAMN you can't hotlink Ausway maps anymore :(

[Grollo]

Porsche apartments was approved on the 21st of February 2001 :-) 17 level 47.5 metres high (exactly the same height as the existing silos which are to be demolished.). Two and a half years later and it might finally go ahead because Audi is moving their showrooms to Verve 501. Another great design by ARM, but unfortunatley most of thier designs never get built!

The Freemasons Hospital site is waiting for a plannning panel hearing. two towers, but I can't rmemeber the height because I put the on ss.com but now they are gone???

[Aussie Steve]

The Porsche Apartments are great. Now we need a development on the old Dallas Brooks Hall site, the site on the northeast corner of Brunswick St (owned by the Australian Catholic University) and a great landmark building on the northwest corner of Hoddle St (there is already a proposal up and going, but I don't know what its called :()

[tayser]

Back page Business & Money, Capital GAin - Hugh Martin

"Como quandry ends"

The last piece in the protracted Como development jigsaw left by 1980s business tycoon the late Jack Chia is about to fall into place with listed developer Australand winning approval for a residential and commercial proposal at the Chapel Street site.

The City of Stonnington has approved Australand's plans for two residential towers with a total of 300 apartments and two commercial towers of 10,000 square metres each.

With design and construction tenders expected to be invited before the end of the year, Australand will complete Chia's vision of residential development stretching from Toorak Road to the Yarra River after the massive site was amalgamated in 1981.

A Car park has operated at the site since it was purchased from Hudson Conway for $14.4 million by Australand in 2001. HudCon had paid $12 million for the site only a year earlier, when managing director Lloyd Williams was in two minds about whether to bail out of the property industry. The developer had plans for a campus-style commercial development of 40,000 sqm, which were abandoned by Australand ON YA AUSTRALAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :guns1:

Australand's current proposal is a modification of an earlier submission that had been rejected by Stonnington as an overdevelopment of the site.

Take two will hopefully bring an end to more than two decades of indecision at the site.

_______

"yippeee" :)

now all I have to do is find the renderings that Aussie Steve sent me 6 months ago... ;)

EDIT: excuse the crapness, but this is where it's going, original, thanks to Falchoon in this thread: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59403

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~anfield/SYarra.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/SYarraedit.jpg

[uewepuep]

good good!

[Clem]

What's the height limit in the area?

[Aussie Steve]

The sooner Australand develop their land in South Yarra, the sooner the Fun Factory Development and the other area around Forrest Hill will be redeveloped into apartments and offices.

[tayser]

Forest Hill, as in Forest Hill Chase ? or ?

[Arunava]

Forrest Hill (2 R's) as in the street going through Melbourne High is what I think Aussie Steve means.

[falchoon]

1987

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~anfield/como.jpg

[tayser]

found em!

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel1.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel2.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel3.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel4.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel5.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel6.jpg

[Aussie Steve]

Don't forget that there is another approved tower for the north-west corner of River & Malcom Sts (where the box is shown below, middle left).
http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel1.jpg

[Blabbyboy]

Does anybody seriously expect this to go up anytime soon? I'm not holding my breath!

[Aussie Steve]

I think this might happen sooner then what most people expect. The sooner Mirvac finish SY21, the sooner more South Yarra projects will get started.

[MelbourneCity]

South Yarra looks quite dense in the first pic. Perhaps its safe to call it our first real suburban CBD???

I hope the development progress well.

[Cat]

planning permit notices have been put up on the fence of the old yeast factory site

notice one reads

5-11 Yarra Street
25 storey building 298 Dwellings, food and drink premises(cafe), leisure and recreation(fitness centre) and dispensation from full car parking requirements.
Applicant - Michael L Yates & Metier 3 Architects

Notice two was difficult to read as it was falling off the fence but essentially it is applying for dispensation for full carparking for a seven storey office building
Applicant - ..... & SJB PLanning

:)

[Grollo]

Good, good, good. I have a feeling that this one will definately be decided by VCAT. This is a direct challenge to the The Stonnington City Council Forest Hill, South Yarra Design guidelines which would see only 12 storey buildings on the site. I would like to see anyone come up with a valid reason why you couldn't build a 25 storey building on this site.

[Grollo]

Huge news that nobody seems to have noticed :-) Maybe you should start a new thread Cat.

[Cat]

maybe i should grollo obviously tayser has not alighted from the passing train and taken notice...;)

[silvermb]

where would someone go to have a look at the plans

[Muse]

Dunno if still will be relevant - render of The FF development from HUN 25Dec., 2001.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/379funfactory2.jpg

[Grollo]

I might have to stop off at the city of Stonnington on my way the the meet tommorow night. Fun Factory is still going ahead, I think they are just waiting for the leases in the existing building to expire.

[tayser]

Originally posted by Cat
maybe i should grollo obviously tayser has not alighted from the passing train and taken notice...;)

lol! I've seen a "redevelop or lease" sign on Yarra St (?? - the one which runs paralel to Rail lines past SY Castle and down to Alexandra parade)... so the yeast site is that large cleared site right on the rail allignment [next to it] ?

I'm gonna be going past that area tomorrow [working on the other side of the yarra :)], I'll have another geeza :D

Silvermb: Prahran Town Hall maybe ?

calling Aussie Steve!

tays

[tayser]

23 levels, (above ground) - ~76 (or 86?) metres from memory [silvermb has a better memory than me]

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects1.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects2.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects3.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects4.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects5.jpg

we're either:

- under-rating South Yarra, or have
- completely missed a few of these proposals ;)

[Kushantaiidan]

this is amazing.. We're growing our own little CBD2/North Sydney!

(excluding st kilda road i guess..

[silvermb]

82m big man

[tayser]

Another thing to note was there was only one objection thus far, from Melbourne High School - mainly concerned with Yarra Street's footpath width (as the majority of Melbourne High School kids use the street) and a proposal to make it a one way street somehow.

[finn]

I was so confused by this thread for a while because I kept getting the Fun Factory confused with the Jam Factory and just totally not understanding the layout of the different buildings! ;)

[finn]

edit. :)

[Aussie Steve]

This is what I have been talking about for ages. This area of South Yarra is ripe for redevelopment and its Melbourne 2030 that will get it off the ground, cos God knows, the Stonnington City Councillors are regressive and not progressive!

This plan below shows you the development potential of the area bounded by the Yarra River, Chapel St, Toorak Rd and the South Yarra Train Station.
http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects4.jpg
There is plenty of scope for more highrise mixed use.

[tayser]

yeah, and talk about the range of sites that could be cleared / amalgamated... although are Stonnington likely to do that with any other sites inside that large block ?

It seems that Melbourne High's principal might have his [her?] finger in more than one pie - as I said above, they're quite keen to see the area redeveloped [with their own concerns taken into account]

[DrDan]

An application for a 15 storey office/residential tower has been lodged for the Tetley Tea site, next to the yeast site, and a 25 storey tower on the yeast site (not sure what use though).

The yeast factory I am talking about is on Yarra Street, South Yarra - right opposite South Yarra station.

No photos available as yet.

[Cat]

DR DAN
check out page three of this thread for detail and images

[silvermb]

almost back to street level

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/483aut17222.jpg

[Aussie Steve]

12-13 Yarra Street, South Yarra has been recomended for approval!!! Yipeee

The applicant seeks approval for construction of a 15 storey building for the purpose of office and residential and dispensation from the provision of the full car parking requirement.

The total office area will have a combined floorspace of approximately 820m²

A total of 127 apartments consisting of:
38 one bedroom
34 one bedroom plus study
47 two bedroom
8 two bedroom plus study

The proposal has been designed to present as two separate buildings, one facing Claremont and the other facing Yarra Street. The Claremont Street building is approximately 23m in height and the Yarra Street building is approximately 45m high. This does not include the lift well overrun.

Building materials comprise a glazed curtain wall, glass balustrading, aluminium windows and doors and metallic cladding panels.

Other planning applications:
5-10 Yarra Street South Yarra

This site is the western portion of the former Pinnacle Yeast Factory site. It has a frontage of 67.8m to Yarra Street and a depth of approximately 39m. It is proposed to construct a 25 storey building of overall approximate height 78m comprising 298 dwellings, food and drink premises (cafe), leisure and recreation (fitness centre).

5-11 Yarra Street South Yarra (21-27 Claremont Street)

This site forms the north east portion of the Pinnacle Yeast factory and only has frontage to Claremont Street. A 7 storey office building of overall approximate height being 18m comprising approximate net floor area of 3374m² of office use.

11 Yarra Street South Yarra

This site is located to the south of the subject site and previously formed part of the Pinnacle Yeast factory site and is currently vacant. The total office floor area is 2192m², retail floor area is 40m² and the overall building height is 26m. 7 storey building comprising retail and office uses.

[tayser]

awesome thanks Aussie Steve!

Also, A. Steve: do you know if there's even been a proposal to duplicate the entries to South Yarra Station? (such as build an entrance to the 6 platforms at the other end of the station) ?

[Aussie Steve]

There have been no proposals for South Yarra Station, but the government is looking at redevelopment of Toorak Rd south side and the winning tender should be announced early next year.

[tayser]

So that would have been a rail-land air rights sell off?

They're not gonna be able to fit much in there.... no?

EDIT: oh, you mean like what they've done with Chapel Street on top of the Frankston & Pakenham lines (both sides of the street) ??

[Aussie Steve]

Yep, same as Chapel St (I guess).

[Grollo]

Nice to see a good mix of offie and residential going up in the area. The only problem is that I doubt they will sell any apartments in the area unless Salt is closed down, who the hell would want to live across the road from that place and having people bleeding to death on your doorstep?

[BigVman]

Good riddance to Salt I say and kill 2 birds with one stone, ie tart up the area and add value and get rid of the refuse at the same time.

[bearbrass]

Originally posted by BigVman
Good riddance to Salt I say and kill 2 birds with one stone, ie tart up the area and add value and get rid of the refuse at the same time.
I think the police have an application to close Salt so lets hope it gets through.

[tayser]

Stonnington voted for closing the club down, didn't they?

[Nexas]

Originally posted by tayser




http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/670Chapel2.jpg



I've been wondering for a while what that site would be looking like when it is developed. I've lived 1 minute walk away from there for about 2 years and nothings happened, but the development on the other side of Malcolm Street is almost complete, every morning I walk down Malcolm street and even more is done, it will be great.

[Aussie Steve]

Originally posted by Nexas
I've been wondering for a while what that site would be looking like when it is developed. I've lived 1 minute walk away from there for about 2 years and nothings happened, but the development on the other side of Malcolm Street is almost complete, every morning I walk down Malcolm street and even more is done, it will be great.
Don't forget there is a proposal for the northwest corner of River and Malcolm Streets too, that is not part of the Mirvac site.

[Nexas]

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
Don't forget there is a proposal for the northwest corner of River and Malcolm Streets too, that is not part of the Mirvac site.

That site is currently a carpark, with "Moo-Vac" and a bulls head graffitied on the Fence.

Whats happening on that Corner?

Hope it won't take too long to build, those Construction workers make me up most mornings with their noise.

[Grollo]

The 15 storey tower at 12 Yarra Street (the Tetly Tea site) is going to be called SXY and is being developed by the Baracon Group. It is to be released soon, for more details, rendering and a movie go to the for sale section of the Baracon website:

http://www.baracon.com.au/baracon.html

[Aussie Steve]

I just walked past the Australand site on Chapel St, just south of the Mirvac development and it seems that there maybe some action in 2004. I hope so!

[Grollo]

The applicants for the 82m high 23 storey proposal on the yeast factory site have taken the application straight to VCAT after council informed them that they will refuse the application early in the new year. Council has a draft policy for the area which has a height limit of 45m (+5m for plant). 12 Yarra Street and the other buildings on the Tetley and Yeast factory sites have all been approved beacuse they met the height limits.

Should be a very interesting hearing at VCAT as the council only has a draft policy which holds no weight so it's a good chance to be approved.

[tayser]

How long does VCAT shut down for over the xmas / new year's break grollo?

[chrisaus]

A nightmare on Chapel St
A LEGAL spat has erupted over a development opposite Prahran Town Hall on Chapel St.

Stonnington Council and local traders claim a developer has allowed a shopping and apartment complex to be built over part of the footpath.
The building site, on the corner of Chapel and King streets, was formerly the National Australia Bank.

The block is one of Prahran's busiest precincts with the town hall and the Greville St intersection within metres.

Stonnington Mayor Melina Sehr described the remaining King St footpath as ridiculously narrow while trader Kitty Van Wees-Miller said the development had taken over tiny King St.

Ms Van Wees-Miller said the development made King St unusable as a two-lane street.

She said the new building's pillars were also obstructing Chapel St.

The builder, Roscon Developments, claimed it had followed plans Stonnington Council approved last year, but Cr Sehr alleged Roscon had breached its permit.

The matter is set to be heard by the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal early this year.

Ms Van Wees-Miller said locals were concerned about emergency access to King St and access for people in wheelchairs or with prams.

"This is the centre of Prahran. It is very busy," she said.

"If there is an emergency, there will be utter distress. A big fire truck was stuck in the street the other day."

Cr Sehr said Roscon was given permission to build the

complex on the proviso the existing King St footpath -- originally on the land's title -- be transferred to the council.

But Roscon Developments director Paul Cummaudo said he had followed amended plans and had offered to foot the $250,000 bill to upgrade and beautify King St.

Mr Cummaudo said he had put a proposal to the council whereby he would cover the costs of transforming the street from a two-lane to a single-lane street.

But Ms Van Wees-Miller said the council should reject the offer and that traders believed the council had been slow to enforce its planning permit -- acting only at the insistence of locals.

"It is just as much the council's fault as the developer's," she said. "We need the street the way it was -- two lanes and two footpaths."
http://heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,8300549%255E2862,00.html

[tayser]

By what you were saying last time I saw you Blabbs, you should have a digicam by now, so you can head on up to UniMelb Law, take the pics, whilst also taking pics of the Swanston Street projects.

deal?

:)

[shamless bump]

[silvermb]

like A.S pointed out australand have started prelim work on 670 Chapel. sy21 set the tone for the eastern side of chapel, contemporary and sharp, but you also gotta like the western side of chapel for its style of apartments with plenty of detail in the finish

anyone know the name for this project, eg scala, freshwater place?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483670_20040113_1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483670_20040113.jpg

[Dean]

Originally posted by silvermb
anyone know the name for this project, eg scala, freshwater place?


Yeah... It's called the 'Hurry the F#%k up and start already' redevlopment on Chapel. LOL

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

[silvermb]

swanston st continues to fire

becton's new student accomodation for those who didn't see the article

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483becswan.jpg

740 Swanston aka the Brookes Gillespie Centre, 14-level tower being converted into student accomodation, extending the floorplate to footpath and south toward the side-alley. expect to see builder Hansen Yuncken's crane soon

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483bec_20040121.jpg

apartments uropa continue to grow with one of Nonda's best below

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483auo_20040121.jpg

526 swanston, still unknown. i think the builder Austin, or one of its arms have gone into administration so there hasn't been too much action onsite of late

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483526_20040121.jpg

[Blabbyboy]

Nonda owns Carlton!:guns1:

They should give him an honorary doctorate at Melb Uni and make the Uni "Nonda City"! Just like RMIT could've been ARM city! :D :D :D

Btw, what's happening on the CUB megasite on Victoria St?

[tayser]

the mounds of dirt are getting a lot higher on the Australand site - a devine-like sales centre on the way perhaps?

[tayser]

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0281/101320281ml1075766149.jpg

[Grollo]

That end of swanston Street is starting to look like St. Kilda Road, except the buildings are only half as high :-)

[plotstyle]

Originally posted by tayser
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0281/101320281ml1075766149.jpg

its really weird RMIT didnt object to that red strip one and the one behind it they are all dog boxs i was studying on the 5th floor next door and watched both get built from scratch one we saw an asian guy playing with num chucks and a samuri sword....

[Philip Burt]

This has got to be one of the slowest moving projects in Vic at the moment. I might go back in another six months to catch the next core rise.

http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0647.JPG

http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0648.JPG

http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0649.JPG

[tayser]

lol Phil, thanks for the update - it's possible multiplex have done a grocon and taken too much on & subsequently focusing on the top pay clients - office towers (8 Exhibition Street & UW).

*shrug*

:)

[Aussie Steve]

5-10 Yarra Street, South Yarra (Twenty five storey building for 298 dwellings, food and drink premises (cafe), leisure and recreation (fitness centre) and car parking) has gone to VCAT because council took too long to make a decision. But the Stonnington City Council has recomended refusal :(

[Cornholio]

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
5-10 Yarra Street, South Yarra (Twenty five storey building for 298 dwellings, food and drink premises (cafe), leisure and recreation (fitness centre) and car parking) has gone to VCAT because council took too long to make a decision. But the Stonnington City Council has recomended refusal :(

Damn it SCC. I've walked past that site almost every day for the last 2 years, and it has continually bugged me that a prime site for a 'real' scraper is going to waste. There was a proposal at one stage last year that had a forest of towers, with a supermarket in the basement of one....now that would certainly come in handy for me.

[tayser]

Yer, what a downer. I've also been walking past the site for the past couple of weeks (and the footbridge on the side of the rail lines, WHICH Stonnington in their infinite wisdom seem to have neglected) and have baulked at the site of the emptiness everytime - on a side note, it's so freaking obvious that 3 Yarra Street building is a brothel when you walk past at night - rofl.

Likewise I actually walked through between Yarra and Chapel Streets tonight - and there's craploads of potential for development (mainly of crapola multi-level car parks) in there as well!

SY21 looks cool at night now that it's all being lived in :guns1:

[Aussie Steve]

Just a quick update on the Australand site between the Como Development & the Mirvac Development in Chapel St, South Yarra.

It looks like Australand are building a display suit on the corner of Malcolm and Chapel Sts and there is new planning application for MORE apartments along River Street.

The original proposal had an office tower along the River St frontage. Australand want to replace that with a 13 storey apartment building running the whole length of the site and retain the apartments along Chaple & Malcolm Sts. :D

I am certain they will get the green light for this new proposal from the Stonnington City Council.

[silvermb]

Becton's renewed/approved uni accomodation on cr. Swanston/Cardigan, stil so so but acceptable. poor losers in the terraces (mid-picture)

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/03/21/college_sqaure,0.jpg

while im here, does anyone know the site for the new womens hospital?

[tayser]

http://hnb.dhs.vic.gov.au/web/pubaff/medrel.nsf/0/fe289f793e9ecdd9ca256db7001eee06?OpenDocument

Green light for new Royal Women's Hospital - 6.10.03
Created By: Bram Alexander on 06/10/2003

Monday, October 6 2003

GREEN LIGHT FOR NEW ROYAL WOMEN'S HOSPITAL

[snip] see article link [snip]

The new hospital will be built on the Royal Melbourne Hospital site in an area bordered by Grattan Street and Flemington Road.

The $40 million first stage will see two buildings constructed at the Royal Melbourne to enable staff to move from the new Royal Women's Hospital site.

"This is the most significant health infrastructure project since the Government gave the go ahead to the Austin Repatriation Medical Centre/Mercy for Women Hospital development," Mr Bracks said.

"The State Government, the Women's and Children's Health Service and Melbourne Health will jointly undertake the project to redevelop the hospital. In addition, a new 980 space underground carpark will be built by the private sector.

"The Government is contributing $190 million, with additional funds, estimated at around $60 million, coming from the sale of the former hospital site and a car park.

"We expect the new hospital to be completed by the end of 2007."

[snip] see article [snip]

[Aussie Steve]

http://www.winstruc.com/winport1/winport1_09e.jpg
http://www.winstruc.com/winport1/winport1_09a.jpg

[silvermb]

how good is the restored facade

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tca.JPG

they were placing a third tower crane base a couple of weeks ago. like the walk through in aussies pic, classy little enclave

[Aussie Steve]

Good, this good, this is excellent restoration work! :D

[Aussie Steve]

More highrise apartment towers in South Yarra!!! Yipeeee :D

Chapel Street Apartments (Building A)
16 storey building with 188 flats in 14 levels above the podium level.
The building has a curved design to the corner of Chapel and Malcolm Streets.

Malcolm Street Apartments (Building B)
14 storey building with 110 flats in 13 levels above the podium levels.
The building is set back from Malcolm Street to allow for a treed “boulevard” and short-term parking.

New residential buildings replacing proposed office buildings:
River Street Apartments (Buildings C, D and E)
Three 14 storey attached buildings with 372 flats in 13 levels above the podium levels.

[Grollo]

That's good news. The heights of the three new 14 storey towers are 41.2m, 44m & 46.6m. There will now be 670 apartments in five towers!

Now the bad news :rant:. The 24 storey 82m high proposal for 5-10 Yarra Street has been refused by VCAT. The tribunal found that although it was an excellent design it was premature to propose a 24 storey tower on the site before the new planning contorls have been introduced.

So the developers will either have to redesign it to be 45m or convince the state government that the new planning controls should allow a building this high on the site (it will be at least 6 months before the controls are in place, probably more like 12 months)

[Aussie Steve]

Oh well, I can wait for 6 - 12 months if we get a 24 storey tower! :D

[pisstake]

Have been told by the owners that Q Bar has just signed a brand new 5 year lease for the basement underneath the Fun Factory.
Not sure how that works with the planned development on the corner of Chapel & Toorak Rds but from the sounds of it, it could be a while away

[tayser]

awesome A. Steve: can you do me a favour a draw a map of where they are? lol ;)

I have one word for the VCAT decision on the Yarra St tower: MALAKA!!!!

:)

[tayser]

yiip. more [projects like this] please.

[A-brain]

Which is the fun factory site? Is that the Yarra St tower that was refused??

If so.. to elaborate on Tayers eloquent words: Malacca Putana !!

[tayser]

Fun Factory = North West corner of Toorak Road & Chapel Street, opposite (same side of Toorak Road) Como / Channel 10.

[A-brain]

I thought so.. I mean I know it's corner of Chapel & Toorak - but thought maybe Yarra St was some dodgy backstreet that's it's 'official' address.

So what, then, is the status of the FF site ?? Height? Approval? Etc?

[tayser]

Yarra Street's the back street which runs beside the Rail line, from SY Station to the river (the street infront of South Yarra Castle (Melb High :D)).

Fun factory - who knows, pisstake's obviously got his finger in a few pies ;)

(from previous page)

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects4.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/syprojects5.jpg

the red markings are where the 24 level Yarra Street tower are (go back a page and see the render there). FF is the biggest purple blob in the first one.

[pisstake]

The Q Bar/Fun Factory site is the one the word "Proposed" in the top right corner of the first picture is pointing to.
The plain purple building, not the one ontop of the yellow 'podium'

[The Collector]

http://www.winstruc.com/winport1/winport1_09a.jpg
I've noticed that the proposal even includes restoration of the mansard roof on Albert Street.
This is ending up so much better than what I was expecting.
Congratulations all round to those involved with this project.! :applause:

________________________________________________________________
I collect, therefore I am. :cool:

[tayser]

Hrm... The FF tower looks to be setback from Toorak Road a fair way like Como. Rebuild of podium with a view that the tower can continue at some later stage perhaps?

[tayser]

forgot to post this a while back.

Go Pies!

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/metro/tribeca/tribeca1404041.jpg

[NOT!!!!]

[Favco750]

3rd crane going up saturday

[Favco750]

Lots happening on site but all seems quite here. This week the two cranes down in the old part of the job have climbed up, the third crane closest to the city has been going for a few weeks now, building is moving along full steam ahead.

Panels have a serrated finish on some and I think they look fantastic, and will get better as they age and weather stain different colours over the different shapes on the surface.

[plotstyle]

its one flr slab above those pics last time i checked

[silvermb]

time for an update, pics from the last month

Blabby you asked for it....Asia Centre, FK magic on a smaller scale
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/smas.jpg

Lincoln House is being demolished and a notice is up naming the Melbourne University Construction Company as the developer?? its a very big site and there's no point demolishing it unless they plan to build something? Judging by previous MU projects, it'll be classy
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/lho.jpg

the 1000-unit Uni Square on Swanston has full approval and will start construction fairly soon
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/03/21/college_sqaure,0.jpg

Brookes Gillespie Centre, another brick shocker bites the dust
one for Favco 750, of the 70-73 tower cranes around town at the moment, this is the only Kroll going around, wonder where Hansen Yuncken sourced it from?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/bec.jpg

Apartments Uropa
thankfully the building will seemingly be spared the all white paint job in the renders and be clad/painted majority black and silver with white features
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/auo.jpg

still dont know what this is in the foreground, but its a dog. on this picture, every building shown was non-existant three years ago, shows how things have progressed probably a little too rapidly at the sake of quality design in some pockets
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/swan.jpg

down the road, royal melbourne hospital has lost its tower crane and the new emergency helipad atop the building is complete
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/rmh.jpg

Bio 21, super building
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/bio.jpg

the new royal womens is out to tender, in terms of size, its a whopper with a three year construction process between
-Baulderstone Hornibrook, Maquarie, DWI Architects
-Leighton, Bank Scotland, Billard Leece
-Grocon, ABN-AMRO, Hassell Architects

there's also a 310-unit project behind Lincoln Square and another student accomodation tower in Orr st planned so there you go, no shortage of construction around Carlton

[Aussie Steve]

The amazing thing about this section of Carlton, is that there is plenty of potential for more development.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5821/CarltonSouth.jpg

[The Collector]

Bio 21, super building
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/uploads/483/bio.jpg

The building currently under construction for Melbourne University's Bio21 Institute of Molecular Science and Biotechnology is now called the David Penington Building.
The Dog of a building on Swanston Street (cnr Queensberry and Swanston) is on the site of the old 'Cadillac Bar'.

[tayser]

awesome update silvermb.

A. Steve: aye, look out for something on Barry Street, just up from that abnormal corner (slightly north of Queensberry) - Scouts Australia Vic Branch are moving out to Mt. Waverley Forster Road (just south of the Monash FWY) - they sold the current building and street level car park for 4 -5 million (small site) and paid 1 - 2 million for their new HQ, even the Scouts are making a bit of dosh out of this property boom.

The current building's 4-5 levels high, it's about 3 or 4 plots down from that large UniMelb building at Uni Square - its neighbouring site on the corner of Barry and Leicester Streets is ripe for demo (there's possibly some heritage significance to an adjacent building, but the context's destroyed by the new UniMelb - UniSquare buildings).

perfect spot for a flatiron building 12 - 15 levels high (going by what's built at University Square).

[plotstyle]

silvermb did you go to any of those raia lectures on urban place ect?

[Blabbyboy]

Awesome update and photos!!! Even I didn't know about some of those new buildings!!! The uni buildings are all class, the old bombsites that are being taken over is all good news - but those "apartments" on Swanston are crap as!!!

[Favco750]

hang on, I made a mis-print

[Favco750]

Silver, the Kroll came from a yard out at Laverton and it has been out there for some time.
The dog on the corner of Swanston and Queensbury where the favco 500 is has just kicked off again. This job was a vacant half finished dog for some time but it's been going again for a couple of months.
Tayser, the scout building is right next door to our union office so best wishes to the builder who goes for that, they would want to be on their toes.
The crane at Bio21 is a Demag 120t now owned by Boom Logistics who took over Conmor last year. Same crane in your pictures of Hallmark Silver, when the towers were going up. Check out the guys installing the glass at Bio, one is in the boom lift but one is working off ropes, these guys earn their money.

[A-brain]

Crips Swanston St doesn't look half bad in that aerial - almost thought it was another city..

Pity the buildings are all build out of Jeff & Terry's Home Cladding and will look (even more like) shite in 5 years - but anyway.. it's all b33f ..

Great pics marko - you either have good legs or a good deal on Metcards.. the Biotech institute is a classy building..

I think it's my turn to take a pic of some way out developments - did anyone get the Austin Hosptial development of late??

[Grollo]

Looking good, not that tall but still a big project:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/tribecca web.jpg

[Blabbyboy]

So is the mansard roof going back on?

[Grollo]

Accorsing to the rendering the Mansard roof is going back on:
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2448/101652448ml1088127793.jpg

[Blabbyboy]

Fark - I didn't realise how big this was going to be!

[Aussie Steve]

Locals not impressed by new-look MCG Hotel (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/10/1089000403279.html?oneclick=true)
By Nassim Khadem, Royce Millar
11 July 2004

A proposal for a 14-storey apartment building at the site of the MCG Hotel in East Melbourne has angered residents and its football-mad patrons.

The developer, Thakral Holdings Limited, last month lodged an application with Melbourne City Council to partly demolish the rear of the 150-year-old hotel and replace it with 89 apartments.

Formerly known as Parade Hotel, the MCG Hotel is a popular meeting spot for football and cricket fans on match days. It sits opposite Jolimont Station, and adjacent to the Hilton Hotel on Wellington Parade.

Under the proposed development, the two-storey hotel would still trade as a licensed venue, but the front would be refurbished, with a new restaurant on the first floor.

Part of the Hilton Hotel's vehicle entry/exit would be converted to 117 parking spaces.

Yesterday the hotel was filled with Richmond and Essendon supporters, some of whom have been performing the same ritual of meeting for pre-match beers with their mates over the past 30 years.

Pat Hooper, 65, is one of the regulars who is against renovating the hotel.

"I like it just the way it is," he said. "Let's keep a few of the old-style places around. Do we really need snazzy places? If the atmosphere changes too much, people won't like it."

David Kendall, 64, said too many of Melbourne's icons were being destroyed because of new developments. "The MCG Hotel is a cultural icon," he said. "It's the classic meeting place for footy fans."

He said although some of Melbourne's greatest architecture dated back to the 19th century, the city was in danger of becoming too modernised. "Places like this are of great cultural value and need to be reserved at all costs. Otherwise we lose our soul and our history," he said.

Margaret Wood, resident and member of the East Melbourne Group, said she opposed the development because it was too high and would compromise the historic character of the hotel. "We are very sensitive about anyone tampering with heritage buildings," she said.

A similar proposal designed by architects Bates Smart in 2001, was rejected by the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal on height and design grounds.

While Thakral's proposal would be slightly lower at 14 storeys (46 metres), VCAT had advised in its May 2002 decision that the height of the building be no more than 24 metres - the maximum recommended in the planning scheme.

Melbourne City Council's planning spokeswoman Catherine Ng said she had not yet seen the planning application, but that the council would look into it.

The developer was not available for comment.

________________________________________________________

Great pic in The Age today!

[tayser]

merged South Yarra, Tribeca, East Melbourne Highrise.

[plotstyle]

tribica is starting to look *** huge

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic146.jpg

[tayser]

chyeah, that is some serious bulk.

[Aussie Steve]

Tribeca
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/2159/EMelb.jpg

[Favco750]

This weekend, Inner Melbourne.
Carlton, Swanston and Queensbury St, crane coming down tomorrow.
Albert Park, Crane coming down next to Rising Sun.

[Muse]

A few things....

First of all, any more news on the Fun Factory development on Chapel Street?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/379funfactory2.jpg


Secondly, a new apartment building simply known as Era is being constructed in Richmond. Arhcitects are Synman Justin Bialek and Fender Katsalidis. It looks 11-levels by the render.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/379erarender1.jpg


...and the ill-fated NKYA Apartments a.k.a. "The Cheese Grater" in Fitzroy. Designed by Ivan Rijavec of Prima fame, it sold in five months of its initial marketing only 25 to 30 of more than 150 apartments. It has been put on hold and will more than likely have a major design change. The worst that could possibly happen is for it to be scrapped altogether, regardless of any design changes.

We also know there were protests about its construction by many of the residents in the vicinity.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/379nkyarender1.jpg

[Lightning~Bolt]

Muse, what is this fun factory building you speak of? I remember reading about it in the Herald Sun or The Age some time ago, but I can't remember what its function was? An Entertainment Complex, or Nightclub or something?

[Icanseeformiles]

i work right next to tribeca at madman entertainment and it HAS topped out and is looking very unremarkable so far.will reserve full judgement until its finished.

[Muse]

Muse, what is this fun factory building you speak of? I remember reading about it in the Herald Sun or The Age some time ago, but I can't remember what its function was? An Entertainment Complex, or Nightclub or something?This Fun Factory that I speak of is an approved retail (can't you tell by the advertising billboards!?!), residential and office complex which is virtually opposite the Como Complex.

BTW The pic that I posted of it is from a HUN article that I have from Xmas Day, 2001.

At this stage, the tallest tower has been approved for 92m/302ft @ 27 levels.

..........

I think the 17-level/47.5m Ashton Raggatt McDougall/Multiplex designed Porsche Apartments on Vic. Pde, is still almost 2 years away. That's if the market will require it by then. Very A.R.M. colours!

BTW A little more info under "Residential" @ http://www.a-r-m.com.au (PDF files).

___________________http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/379porscherender1.jpg

[plotstyle]

i work right next to tribeca at madman entertainment and it HAS topped out and is looking very unremarkable so far.will reserve full judgement until its finished.

im near by you go to element for coffee?

[Aussie Steve]

A few updated plans. Not too certain wht has been approved or what hasn't and if its gone to VCAT. I hope it has cos I am certain council refused it! Grrrr

12 Yarra Street
http://img14.exs.cx/img14/9008/12YarraSt1.jpg

Claremont St
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/243/ClaremontSt1.jpg

http://img49.exs.cx/img49/5608/ClaremontSt2.jpg

http://img78.exs.cx/img78/8076/ClaremontSt3.jpg

http://img78.exs.cx/img78/3629/ClaremontSt4.jpg

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/862/ClaremontSt5.jpg

Yarra Street
http://img10.exs.cx/img10/9040/YarraSt1.jpg

http://img39.exs.cx/img39/6319/YarraSt2.jpg

http://img17.exs.cx/img17/5022/YarraSt3.jpg

http://img45.exs.cx/img45/3074/YarraSt4.jpg

http://img42.exs.cx/img42/4260/YarraSt5.jpg

[Grollo]

12 Yarra Street has been approved by council. the 5-10 Yarra Street tower was refused by VCAT.

[Icanseeformiles]

really!, that cool Plotstyle.
I don't usually take lunch as we are always flat out churming out dvd's but sure, if ya ever wanna catch up for a coffee I will make the time. just email - rohan@madman.com.au
Cheers.

[tayser]

12 Yarra Street has been approved by council. the 5-10 Yarra Street tower was refused by VCAT.

..bastards :(

refresh my memory: from what basis was the decision made?

[Grollo]

To conclude, we accept the general proposition put by Mr Pitt that not all development should be put on hold pending completion of strategic planning. However, when a proposed development presents a radical departure from previously accepted built form and current thinking as evidenced by recent permit approvals, and when the precinct is of considerable strategic importance, we find there is justification to reject a development which would result in a monumental leap outside existing planning parameters. It would cause the direction for this very important renewal area to be set in a manner that is not consistent with the Scheme provisions and policies and is not evident in adopted policies. Unlike Vasiliou, the scale of the proposal is not consistent with, or in the same ballpark as, others that have been approved. It goes beyond much of what has been allowed on the Como site. The future direction for the Precinct should be set through a managed process as intended by Melbourne 2030.

[Icanseeformiles]

:nuts: worked in 19 yarra st between 91 and 97. the train noise will drive them mad

[silvermb]

tribeca, east melbourne
good apartments in a good area, basic exterior though

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/tca 200409.jpg

[dynamoultraclean]

They could really beef up the area bounded by Hoddle, Wellington, Clarendon and Alexander with 4-6 level appartments.

[Cat]

walked down claremont street just a moment ago and they have poured the columns for something fronting claremont street that backs onto the yarra street site.

does anyone know what being constructed?

[Grollo]

ERA apartments is at 165 Cremorne Street Richmond (near the silos). It has ten levels an a height of 35.9m to roof and 37.9m to the top of the plant room.
http://img.domain.com.au/img/4897/2004404865_1_FS.JPG?mod=040708-203249

It it actually U/C yet?

[Grollo]

Just noticed the "new" mansard roof in this pics of Tribeca posted by Silvermb.

The apartment tower is a little dull but they have done a fantastic job of restoring the facade of the old brewery.

[Aussie Steve]

walked down claremont street just a moment ago and they have poured the columns for something fronting claremont street that backs onto the yarra street site.

does anyone know what being constructed?
Its part of the above development. I think its the low rise office component of the project.

[Blabbyboy]

Era actually looks quite good, but we all know that renders are deceptive...

[tayser]

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/09/22/1095651395109.html

Developers clinch $200m Burnley sale
By Helen Westerman
September 23, 2004

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/09/23/botani_wideweb__430x278.jpg

Botanicca Corporate Park, in Burnley, is a nine-building complex.

The Melbourne site of GE Consumer Finance's Asia Pacific headquarters in Burnley's Botanicca Corporate Park is close to being sold by its developers.

The inner city Botanicca is a $200 million, 70,000 square metre corporate park being developed by RMAC, a joint venture between Macquarie Bank and property development company R.Corporation, headed by Andrew Rettig.

For sale are two buildings of 10,250 square metres leased to GE, as well as a third building of about 14,600 square metres, which is to be built for GE.

It is believed there is a shortlist of at least two interested parties, who are undertaking due diligence.

However, both R.Corporation head Mr Rettig and the commercial agency handling the negotiations, FPDSavills, refused to comment on an expected price for the site.

The RMAC partners bought the site from listed biotech company Amrad for $47.5 million last year, securing GE and former owner Amrad as major tenants on existing buildings on the site.

Last month, GE confirmed it had signed 12-year leases for about 40,000 square metres of space.

It has indicated it will locate up to 2500 staff on the site.

Botanicca is the first major office development for R.Corporation and the first in Melbourne for the Sydney-based Macquarie Bank.

The park attracted controversy when the Victorian Government took control of the site from Yarra Council and approved the project itself. But industry observers said the Botanicca Corporate Park development had proved a successful play for the partners, who had maximised the value of the site and gained a long-term tenant in a relatively short time.

Nine buildings of up to seven storeys will be built at the park.

[Aussie Steve]

An oldie, but a goodie!

Becton's Second Proposal, view from the intersection of Faraday & Cardigan Streets
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/CardiganFaraday.jpg

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/03/16/17BECTON,0.jpg

http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/SwanstonRenderingWeb.jpg

Swanston St Elevation
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Ep2Plans/ElevationSwanstonSmaller.jpg

Cardigan St Elevation
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Ep2Plans/ElevationCardiganSmaller.jpg

Faraday St Elevation
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Ep2Plans/ElevationFaradaySmaller.jpg

Ground Floor Plan
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Ep2Plans/GroundSmaller.jpg

Level 1 Plan
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Ep2Plans/Level1Smaller.jpg

Shadow Diagrams
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Ep2Plans/ShadowDiagramsSmaller.jpg

I think was the original proposal

Cardigan St Elevation
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/CardiganSmallest.gif

Faraday St Elevation
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/FaradaySmallest.gif

Swanston St Elevation
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/SwanstonSmallest.gif

Elevations/Plans
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Floor1Smallest.gif

Level 2 Plan
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/Floor2Smallest.gif

Shadow Diagrams
http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/EquinoxSmallest.gif

http://www.carltonresidents.org.au/Current/EasternPrecinct/SolsticeSmallest.gif

[Aussie Steve]

Excerpts of the Planning Application PL03/1407 at 132-172 Smith Street and 63-71 Little Oxford Street Collingwood. These artist impressions and diagrams show the scale of the development, compared with existing buildings in the street.

http://www.smithstreet.org/files/highview.jpg

View of proposed building looking east along Webb Street.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/streetv01.jpg

View of proposed building looking north along Smith Street.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/streetv02.jpg

View of proposed building looking south along Smith Street.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/streetv03.jpg

View of proposed building looking north along Little Oxford Street.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/streetv04.jpg

Existing Smith Street montage - west elevation.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/large_groundview01.jpg

Proposed Smith Street montage - west elevation.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/large_groundview02.jpg

Existing Little Oxford Street montage - east elevation.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/large_groundview03.jpg

Proposed Little Oxford Street montage - east elevation.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/large_groundview04.jpg

Design response concept elevation.
http://www.smithstreet.org/files/large_plan06.jpg

[Grollo]

The Becton student apartments is a massive building. It will have 544 apartments, that's more apartments than Q1!!! Construction should start pretty soon.

It actually looks OK now, the origonal proposal that was approved by the minister but refused at VCAT was hideous, pure housing commision.

[tayser]

new SY development from Baracon, saw signs up today from the train.

www.sxy.com.au

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/sxy1.jpg

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/sxy2.jpg

The Tetley site, right nextdoor to that 20 level proposal that got the arse. and this is 15 - WTF?

pretty schmick!

_____________

I honestly dont see the problem with the Smith St development???

[Grollo]

That's a much better render than the one they used to have up. Great place for an apartment, hard to see these not selling fast.

[silvermb]

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/25/26BECTON_ent-lead__200x220.jpg


Developer Becton faces fight over tower
By Royce Millar
October 26, 2004

An artist's impression of the apartment block.
Developer Becton faces stiff opposition from the Melbourne City Council over new plans for a $100 million apartment project at Jolimont in East Melbourne.
While the developer has dramatically scaled down the number of apartments it proposes to build on the site, the council says an 85-metre tower proposed in the western corner of the property near Spring Street is unacceptable.
Becton managing director Hamish McDonald said yesterday the new plan followed five months of consultation with residents at the adjacent Wellington Gardens estate.
"The plan is sympathetic to the existing East Melbourne, Jolimont and Wellington Gardens precinct," he said.
But last night the council flagged its opposition to the new plan. Planning committee chairwoman Catherine Ng said she welcomed low-rise townhouses included in the proposal, but said a large tower would effectively redraw the city's eastern boundary.
"The design of the tower challenges the concept of the Hoddle Grid layed down by the forefathers of Melbourne," she said. "This monstrous building will define a new edge for the city and will push the high-rise CBD into Jolimont."
Advertisement Advertisement
Last year the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal overruled the State Government's approval of a scheme that included high-rise towers just metres from existing low and medium-rise apartments.

[Aussie Steve]

I like the idea of low rise at the eastern end of the site and one tallish tower at the western end as a gatway to the CBD.

[Grollo]

The 1993 plan allowed for a 54m high tower in the same location. Becton got approved plans from the state government for three 57m high towers on the site in 2002 but this was oveturned on a technicality and serious opposition from the residents of the existing townhouses on the site.

This time Becton have played it smart and got support from the existing residents for the new proposal which will make it harder for DSE to refuse. I predict it will be approved with a cut of five floors which will make it approximately half the height of Shell House (above sea level).

This plan is basically two towers linked by a common lift core. The hieght limit is to top of highest habitable floor so the overall height would be 91m (28 levels) for the taller section of the tower and 60m (19 levels) for the lower section.

Nice renderings:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/135eastside-springstreet.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/135eastside-closeup.jpg


Website:
http://www.becton.com.au/eastmelbourne/mediainfo/index.html

[tayser]

first the possibility of 40 levelers in Dandy now this? wow :eek2: GREAT day so far ;)

[plotstyle]

im sorry but until i see more renders this tower vision/innovation...

any site plans?....

what also worries me is that the road next to it is MUZ aswell how the hell do developers make a road mixed use?

this area needs very very careful attention... thats all ill say

im not convinced...

[The Collector]

:eek2: WOW, I'm CONVINCED!!

[joed]

In the last week I've done a little on this project. I've seen the plans and personally I'm that fond of it.

I'd much prefer low but high densitry quality development than this one. I doubt it'll get passed - at it's current height anyway.

There's also potential to extend Spring Street sometime in the future, so the western boundary is in the line with the eastern edge of Spring St if that makes sense.

[Cat]

the top looks interesting but the rest of the body of the tall building looks too much like a boring office box ... keep it lower and more interesting for the whole building.....I'm thinking frank gehry, Renzo Piano etc and movement throughout the height...instead of just an Elvis hair flick on top

[silvermb]

typical weird ARM design, as always their designs have promise but they find a way to totally stuff it up. looks ridiculous from spring st

a few other basket cases
tribeca minus last crane, all over bar the paint job. so so externally, excellent internal layout though. its saviour is the restored facade
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/tca200410.jpg

swanston student complex
let me be the first to fly a bomber over and drop a daisy cutter on this lump of shit. which moron from MCC approved this? belongs in upper beaconsfield
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/sn200410.jpg

brookes gillespie house
id love to live next to a multi-level carpark, ehh its only student accomodation
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/bec200410.jpg

riviera richmond
replace a factory with a residential that looks like ... another factory
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/rva200410.jpg

[tayser]

let me be the first to fly a bomber over and drop a daisy cutter on this lump of shit. which moron from MCC approved this? belongs in upper beaconsfield


:rofl:

No no no, it wouldn't have got planning approval if it were in UB.

Zing.

[The Collector]

Village students
Extracts from Melbourne Yarra Leader
By Claire Turfrey

RMIT University will be part of a $60 million student accommodation project in North Melbourne to cater for about 700 international students.
RMIT and Tuscan Corporation have outlined plans for the development of the four-star Apollo Old Melbourne Hotel on Flemington Road.
The university’s Pro-Vice Chancellor of finance and business services, Cameron Moroney, said the accommodation would cater for RMIT students from January 2005.
The first stage of the project will provide refurbished accommodation for 470 students, with a further 200 to be accommodated in an extension to be constructed on the existing car park once planning approval is obtained.
The students’ apartments will range in size from two to five bedrooms, with bathroom, kitchen facilities and living areas, as well as a bistro, café, tavern and gym.
Tuscan Corporation – which developed Sydney University’s award winning 650-bed student village – recently bought the North Melbourne property.
Its subsidiary, Campus Living, will operate it as RMIT Village on Flemington.

[plotstyle]

replace a factory with a residential that looks like ... another factory...

and a f***ing big one at that :)

[Cat]

it hurts to even look at that image of the student stuff up on swanston..... whoever did the colour selection should be shot or at the very least never employed to do it again....

my bet is that it was not a trained designer who did that job perhaps the developer decided to do something eye catching and FUN for the young people then changed their mind half way through and turned a pale shade of green :puke:

[Icanseeformiles]

i GOTTA LOOK AT THE BLOODY DISGRACE EVERYDAY! WHAT A WASTED OPPORTUNITY!!
UTTERLY UNINSPIRING AND CHEAP LOOKING. SHITE!

[silvermb]

pics from sales website. every time a new pic comes out its a vastly improved finish, albeit off a low quality design base. i actually like the design, excellent for student accomodation. more sympathetic to street level except for swanston elevation which should be big-arse.

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/csc.jpg
btw construction has begun, although a while before 2-3 cranes spring up

[Aussie Steve]

It looks like Swanston St will become a wall of 11 storey buildings from Victoria Pde to Uni Melb.

[tayser]

Recently completed, by Baracon:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/tours/109tour031104/109tour3.jpg

perfect sized project for Richmond IMO.

[Aussie Steve]

Mr T, that is a perfect size and there are many other site around this area that could be developed in the same way.

[tayser]

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/tours/109tour031104/109tour12.jpg

[plotstyle]

that baracon one looks good ;)

[silvermb]

since you raised the issue tays dont worry about those blobs in richmond, smaller but taller is the way to go. small footprints with a bit of height seem to have more character and define an area

sinclair east melbourne, two of these would have looked better in richmond rather than what was built above.
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/sem200410.jpg

[silvermb]

one more bites the dust, A.Steve can you repost the plans for the resi tower?

Thakral marks time to start on $60 million job
By Stephen Dabkowski
November 8, 2004

Plans by listed property trust Thakral Holdings to undertake a $60-million refurbishment of Hilton-on-the-Park in time for the Commonwealth Games are being held back by planning delays for the site.

Thakral is seeking to refurbish and expand the hotel as well as build additional longer-stay suites and residential apartments, and to restore the historic MCG Hotel.

Thakral managing director John Hudson said unless work started soon on the Hilton refurbishment it would not be completed in time for the games in March 2006.

Revenue from the sale of the additional apartments is to be used to finance the Hilton refurbishment and restoration of the MCG Hotel.

The proposal is to build 89 additional suites and apartments above the Hilton ballroom and behind the MCG Hotel, on Wellington Parade.

Mr Hudson said the addition of larger and self-catering apartments would enable the hotel to appeal to a wider market of longer-staying guests, as well as increase the productivity of hotel services and infrastructure.

Thakral has referred its application for a planning permit to the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal. This is on the grounds that the Melbourne City Council failed to determine on the application within the prescribed period.

"Thakral believes the development proposal is modest, and it enhances the streetscape and architecture of the surrounding area," Mr Hudson said. "In fact, the proposed long-stay apartment building is in total keeping with the look of existing buildings along Wellington Parade."

He said that for a number of years the Melbourne hotel accommodation market had been underperforming its counterparts in NSW and Queensland due to an oversupply of hotel rooms and serviced apartments in the CBD driving down room rates.

The last six months of the 2004 financial year showed a modest increase of 4 per cent in Melbourne's average revenue per available room, which has resulted in Thakral lobbying Melbourne City Council and the State Government to facilitate further investment in its East Melbourne properties.

Dan Kolomanski, Thakral's Victorian development director, said that the refurbishment of the MCG Hotel would allow it to open its restaurant and sports bar every day. At present it is open only a few days a year when there are events at the MCG.

Mr Kolomanski said the Hilton was the closest premium hotel to the MCG, which will be the principal venue for the Commonwealth Games.

Thakral says that the total value of the Hilton refurbishment and construction works is estimated at $60 million, with a further $40 million of works earmarked for other East Melbourne residential projects such as the adjacent Mosspennoch House restoration and conversion into six premium residential apartments looking on to the Fitzroy Gardens.

[Grollo]

It hasn't bit the dust, it's just going to go to VCAT. The Hilton is a shocker and hopefully they will do full on refurb like the Hilton in Sydney not just a paint job and new interiors.

[silvermb]

yes i should have clarified, another poo-brown scourge of the earth-style building bites the dust. you'ld think its a sure thing at VCAT consdering the tie-in with the Comm Games

not such a pretty lady
http://www.thakral.com.au/images/hotels/hilton_melbourne.jpg

[tayser]

*cough* put Footscray stuff here *cough*

Can't remember the name of this one. Loving the new tram stop though.

http://thehoddlegrid.net/tours/nmel/nmel47.jpg

[kasperluke]

^How are the pedestrians going to access the tram stop tays? The Melbourne Uni public transport association doesn't like it. Will it be useable with the huge numbers of students using the stops?

[Hypernovean]

I'm suprised they're getting it up so quickly... now I can test it out when I go to uni :)

[tayser]

no idea kasper, saw the whinge on railpage, didn't pay too much attention today ;)

hyper: first year? or returning?

[Hypernovean]

hyper: first year? or returning?
first year urban planning ;)

[PalmerEldritch]

first year urban planning ;)
that wouldn't be at RMIT by any chance?

[kasperluke]

I'm suprised they're getting it up so quickly... now I can test it out when I go to uni :)

They have to get it up quickly! It would be CRAZY if they were constructing that during the uni semester! You'll see what I mean.....it can be very busy.

[Hypernovean]

that wouldn't be at RMIT by any chance?
Tried RMIT before but I'm moving up the road this time to UoM.

[tayser]

Aussie Steve, some questions:

Is there any heritage protection on SY station?

http://www.vicsig.net/infrastructure/stations/20050111_South-Yarra-Station.jpg

How often are you at Town Hall?

Do you check for new planning apps regularly?

cheers

on other stuff: that SXY banner is still up right next to the station with 'coming soon' - bah, hurry up!

[Drunkill]

SY station needs buildings on it! even if they are lowish like 5 storys, it just needs buildings. It is such a drab station, if they got the developer to pay for covering it up, and building on it, it would be good. But keep the shopfront part, so that building for the entrance to the station can stay, then just behind it there could be a few buildings.

But keep the ends open if possible, so the building acts as a shelter, rather then a tunnel.

[tayser]

yah, the way it's setup against the street is fine (Nunawading, Springvale, Clayton & Glenhuntly should all be rebuilt with lines under road with station facing street as well IMO), just need a big arse scrub or complete rebuild in the same fashion.

amen to building on top - I also think there should be a northern entry for everyone in Cremorne (with new pedo bridges on both sides of rail bridge) to use as well as Melbourne High traffic.

[Drunkill]

Glenhuntly defenatly, the station should be right under the road, with entrances at both ends and a middle entrance where it is now, or the other side of the road, from just before the station to say halfway between ormond, should be underground, then emerge just before the bridge heading to ormond, and then its an enbankment most of the way to moorabbin.

Also if glenhuntly was under the road, it would be cool for me, my own undergorund station! w00t