Great little cluster

[JUXTAPOL]

Piture from my little Mersey ferry cruise today

This is a good looking cluster with 2 more towers yet to be added along with Malmaison and cruise liner terminal :cheers:


http://www.123lcc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/post/zcluster2.JPG

The brown tower, (think it's Silkhouse court), could do with a reclad though... :bash:

[scouserdave]

F**K me!
What a pic :cheers:

[tommygunn]

great pic of my favourite area and city lofts looking nearly finished there too which is good news.

[ferge]

One of my fave clusters in the country... Its not the size, the quantity, or even the quality (overall) it just, has something to it. I love it love it love it! Let it grow!

[TheMerseyOrange]

From Seacombe, 8th July -

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5365/cluster10qr.jpg

[Accura4Matalan]

Will Alexandra be slightly to the left of those photos?

[TheMerseyOrange]

Will Alexandra be slightly to the left of those photos?Yes, and from that spot it should appear around 5-10% taller than Beetham 1 if the suggested height is accurate -

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4763/cl13eu.jpg

[Accura4Matalan]

Cheers. When it and West Tower are up, you will have to reduce your zoom quite a bit...

[liverpolitan]

nice pics, juxta and orange

[JUXTAPOL]

Cheers :cheers:

Hopefully will have plenty more of them to come.

[Toadboy]

Looks like you got the angle just right there Juxt.

MO's 3x zoom is producing some crackers as well.

[JUXTAPOL]

Luckily the river was very calm, so rested camera on rail, and waited for ferry to level out before shooting. Also took about 10 different shots, so one of them had to turn out ok. Still i did have to rotate the pic by 2 degrees to get it level.

[westisbest]

i serously think alex tower will be one of our best, its the only one thats all glass, all the way around

[JUXTAPOL]

It's going to look huge also, going by the renderings and with it being right on the waters edge. :)

[Medo]

cute little cluster :cheers:

[ferge]

I think they just need get some towers behind PD and that to give a strong dense feel..Then it will be a formidable cluster! Can't wait to see Alexandra and West tower start.. be brill if they were both rising at the same/similiar time.. really give people a sense of change on the waterfront.

[Accura4Matalan]

Would also look a hell of a lot better if the Bruntwood building was demolished...

[JUXTAPOL]

Would also look a hell of a lot better if the Bruntwood building was demolished...
No....It looks quite good now. The crown could do with tarting up, or even illuminating in some way to add to our "City Of Light" and make the nightime shot even better.

I think the same effect as on the bonnet of the car from "Knightrider" would look good. :)



David Hasselhof (in butch American accent)'Whats going on Kit...!',

Unknown Voiceover (in Gay robot accent)'I think my sensors detect a crane on Alexander Tower Site, Michael'.

[woody]

[QUOTE=JUXTAPOL]No....It looks quite good now. The crown could do with tarting up, or even illuminating in some way to add to our "City Of Light" and make the nightime shot even better.

I think the same effect as on the bonnet of the car from "Knightrider" would look good. :)


JUXTAPOL, with you on this, smarten up the roof line of Bruntwood and install an exciting lighting scheme would do wonders for "the old girl".
Demolish ---NO.

[Scarecrow]

How about a giant news ticker all the way around? it's long enough and tall enough to get messages up to Kirkdale and across the city centre.

[Accura4Matalan]

No! It should be demolished and replaced with a sleek office building which would be 3 times as tall. At the moment its bulky and looks bad on the skyline, like the not-so-good effect that Plantation Place has on the City skyline...

[liverpolitan]

Taken from New Brighton yesterday

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P7160006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P7160013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P7160007.jpg

[Scarecrow]

Nice one Polly! Any chance of making it bigger? :?

[Martin S]

Having dominated the North Liverpool skyline for some 40 years, Bruntwood is now slowly disappearing from the skyline as new buildings appear. The top storey with the picket fence round was originally added for mechanical plant. I think modern plant would not occupy anything like this space and so the area could be rebuilt with a glazed restaurant area with magnificent views over the city.

[caw123]

Taken from New Brighton yesterday

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P7160006.jpg




Now that looks fantastic. Love the way the Anglican looms in the distance, and the deplorable RSA is mostly hidden. :cheers:

[Toadboy]

Cracker.

Just wait until West Tower is up and Unity sticks it's head up as well.

[Blabbernsmoke]

No....It looks quite good now. The crown could do with tarting up, or even illuminating in some way to add to our "City Of Light" and make the nightime shot even better.

I think the same effect as on the bonnet of the car from "Knightrider" would look good. :)



David Hasselhof (in butch American accent)'Whats going on Kit...!',

Unknown Voiceover (in Gay robot accent)'I think my sensors detect a crane on Alexander Tower Site, Michael'.

The voice of KIT on Knight Ridger was the guy who played the Dad in "The Graduate". The same guy played the old teacher on the 1990s teenage programme "Boy Meets World." There's some uselss info for you :)

[Toadboy]

Oh and Alexander.

[Awayo]

Oh and Alexander.

"he thought big they called it a phallic
(little eiffel, little eiffel)
they didn't know he was panoramic
little eiffel stands in the archway
(little eiffel, little eiffel)
keeping low doesn't make no sense
sometimes people can be oh so dense
they didn't want it but he built it anyway
Oh Alexander I see you beneath the Archway of Aerodynamics"

Alex Eiffel, The Pixies, Trompe Le Monde, 1992

[Toadboy]

You calling Alexander a penis?

[Waterfront]

great pics Liverpolitan. Good to see the focal point shifting from the Liver buildings at last - as if that is all we have to offer in the way of a skyline. Alexandra and Beetham 2 will improve this area beyond belief,

[westisbest]

flew from man to tenerife yesterday miday and we flew west towards dublin the south direct to Tenerife sur. i was on the left and could see all liverpool. LJLA´s apron behind the hangar is absolutle massive. i could see unity and even 1 princes dock seems big. looked at Radio city tower and imagined a wider, clasier version next to beetham 1 and it will realy stand out. this was all from 11,000 ft. :cheers:

[Accura4Matalan]

Not really a cluster, but I still think its a nice view. Taken from the cafe at the top of the world museum yesterday:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4119/jul28ik.jpg

[Pobbie]

This should shape up very nicely. It'll be a real cluster when Alexandra and West Tower are on their way up. :cheers:

Accy: yeah, it's a nice little view from the museum cafe. Just past the space section I believe. :)

[Accura4Matalan]

The space section was closed :no:

[Awayo]

Pity you can't get out onto the balcony there. If you did you'd be mixing it with a whole load of angry bees from the hive on the other side of the window.

[Accura4Matalan]

LOL! I couldnt quite believe it when I saw that.
"Here we have a fantastic opportunity to create a nice balcony for our cafe with great views over Liverpool city centre. People will love that when they have climbed up all those stairs and come in here for their drink."

"Nah, lets stick a beehive there"

:laugh:

[Awayo]

If I remember correctly, the hive has been there since before the refurb. Still it's educational, and a open air cafe and a beehive aren't exactly the best combo. What you reckon, five deaths a year or so from people choking after a bee had got into their cokes and stung them?

Maybe they'll shift it when the indoor one in the Bug House gets going. I've not been for month or so, did you have a look in the Bug House and see if the new hive was installed, Accy?

[Accura4Matalan]

Nope, no hive...

[Scarecrow]

I want to see the ants traversing the rope to get at the food. Do you know when that'll be? :?

[kung_fuzi]

I want to see the ants traversing the rope to get at the food. Do you know when that'll be? :?


Congrats Bunnyman,our 30,000th post. :cheers:

[Scarecrow]

Christ! Already? :?

[JUXTAPOL]

Congrats Bunnyman,our 30,000th post. :cheers:
I think weve gained 250+ posts off Manchester. :hahaha:

[Accura4Matalan]

congratulations...

[bustcapl]

have you seen the manc total at the moment, oh dear!!!!

[Blabbernsmoke]

It looks like the hacker had a penchant for removing spam :laugh:

[caw123]

a penchant for removing spam :laugh:


That's why he cleaned out 300 Liverpool threads then? :)

The Liverpool total just hasn't updated yet, it will go down from 393 to 97 soon! Just like the Manc one went down from 294 to 70 just now.

And bustcapl, why did you feel the need to bring this up in this thread? That's one of the problems with the Liverpool board at the moment, it goes off topic so easily.

[bustcapl]

That's why he cleaned out 300 Liverpool threads then? :)

The Liverpool total just hasn't updated yet, it will go down from 393 to 97 soon! Just like the Manc one went down from 294 to 70 just now.

And bustcapl, why did you feel the need to bring this up in this thread? That's one of the problems with the Liverpool board at the moment, it goes off topic so easily.

if you are looking to wave your blame stick in anyones direction then you must first address the posts that preceeded mine. this will then give you the answer to the question that you require.

Great cluster tho! :cheers:

[caw123]

Oh sorry, jumped on my high horse there busty.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P7160007.jpg

That John Moores University block is brutal. Must be one of the longest highrises in the UK.

[Toadboy]

Certainly is CAW, would have been better building it twice as high.

[bustcapl]

i forgive you, that building is rapidly being hidden from the front, unfortunately you can still see its ugliness in the last picture!

[Scarecrow]

It aint the University though. It was the Littlewoods HQ. The uni is about half a mile back on Byrom Street. :)

[bustcapl]

It aint the University though. It was the Littlewoods HQ. The uni is about half a mile back on Byrom Street. :)


i am surprsied that you would even know which uni building is which given your poor attendance!! :bash:

[Gareth]

They look remarkably similar though and they're both shite! :)

[Blabbernsmoke]

That's why he cleaned out 300 Liverpool threads then? :)

The Liverpool total just hasn't updated yet, it will go down from 393 to 97 soon! Just like the Manc one went down from 294 to 70 just now.

And bustcapl, why did you feel the need to bring this up in this thread? That's one of the problems with the Liverpool board at the moment, it goes off topic so easily.

We were only joking, you big girls blouse!

[caw123]

It aint the University though. It was the Littlewoods HQ. The uni is about half a mile back on Byrom Street. :)

Ah I see. I just remember it being called 'The John Moores Building' and therefore assumed it was part of the uni.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/446SirJohnMooresBuilding_pic1.jpg
It's sheer width makes it hard to believe it's 210ft tall.

[tommygunn]

it says on beethams site that west tower will start in september 05?

[Accura4Matalan]

Wasnt it supposed to start this month? :?

[tommygunn]

Wasnt it supposed to start this month? :?
i have heard that mentioned but i doesnt luck likely this month hers what it says
:Liverpool - Planning approval obtained for 40 storey West Tower. Construction works to start September 2005.

[Accura4Matalan]

We might see site preparations before then (ie:portacabins, machinery going on site). Maybe it means the official site opening they have.

[tommygunn]

We might see site preparations before then (ie:portacabins, machinery going on site). Maybe it means the official site opening they have.
i think your right acurra their has not been any site clearance yet that will probably start this month.

[scouserdave]

Oh sorry, jumped on my high horse there busty.



That John Moores University block is brutal. Must be one of the longest highrises in the UK.
You want brutal, I'll give you brutal! If there was an ugly as f**k pic competition, this would be in the top three, no probs :cheers:

http://www.**************************/uglyasfuck.jpg

[Toadboy]

Now that is brutal.

Thank god for the new developments going on, even the lower rise Pall Mall stuff break up the 3 disgraces.

[scouserdave]

Now that is brutal.

Thank god for the new developments going on, even the lower rise Pall Mall stuff break up the 3 disgraces.

I love the piss stains running down the roof of the middle bldg. Sums up the picture :bash:

[Toadboy]

Is that a terradactil attacking the JM centre?

[gothicform]

i believe its mike storey.

[Scarecrow]

No. He loves it. Not too tall, ambitious or aesthetically pleasing. Perfect for that tosspots idea of utopia.

[Blabbernsmoke]

http://www.**************************/uglyasfuck.jpg

Cheers for the pic Dave. Damn, RSA looks pig-ugly in that shot. But I think you can do much worse than these three. Burton (former JM) at least looks shiny and from the ground (what will be facing onto St Pauls Sq.) is quite impressive by its sheer magnitude (there is a rendering in the St Pauls Sq thread.)

The brown tower has a metal and glass facade- and looks better than many of the monstrosities from its era. RSA... well, it has an interesting shape.

Let's face it- these 3 "disgraces" look better than the likes of the Arndale Tower in Manc, and many concrete nasties in Birmingham and others.

[Pobbie]

The space section was closed :no:
The bastards! The space section is the best part of the museum! :bash: I bet you didn't even get to visit the planetarium. :(

As for our shitty 60s architecture, just remember that Park Hill Flats aren't located in Liverpool. That should cheer you up. :cheers:

[liverpolitan]

I think RSA is better quality and more distinguished than the Cunard Building, personally, but I like the "three disgraces" term, who coined that?

[oscar9]

http://www.**************************/uglyasfuck.jpg

Cheers for the pic Dave. Damn, RSA looks pig-ugly in that shot. But I think you can do much worse than these three. Burton (former JM) at least looks shiny and from the ground (what will be facing onto St Pauls Sq.) is quite impressive by its sheer magnitude (there is a rendering in the St Pauls Sq thread.)

The brown tower has a metal and glass facade- and looks better than many of the monstrosities from its era. RSA... well, it has an interesting shape.

Let's face it- these 3 "disgraces" look better than the likes of the Arndale Tower in Manc, and many concrete nasties in Birmingham and others.
I think you need to visit an optician. Those are far worse than the Arndale tower. The brown sun alliance building is a blight on the Liverpool skyline. Its a squared off lump of shit.

[liverpolitan]

But Oscar, the Cunard Building is a boring pastiche of a Venetian Palace, built 200 years after the Venetians gave up on that style. It's about as classy and authentic as a structure in EuroDisney. RSA is a modern building, it is authentic, of its era, designed, and creative. It moves things forward, challenges, and - to some - pleases the eye. The Cunard Building is just bog-standard turn of the century commercial pomp. It fills the space between two interesting buildings, and entirely fails to compete with the RSA in terms of contribution to the central cityscape.

[Pobbie]

I've always liked the RSA: reminds me of a giant sandcastle. :D

[JUXTAPOL]

I sense Handbags are out and swinging at 20 paces... :)

BTW...I like the RSA.



http://www.123lcc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/post/zRSA99.JPG

[Awayo]

It'll be listed one day, Oscar. Mark my words.

Here's what Pevner says about it, "Its rugged bulk and distinctive sillhouette contribute greatly to the skyline.As the momumentally self-important head office of a local insurance company, it follows worthily in the tradition of the Royal Liver Building."

It's aging well in its way. In another twenty years, it wouldn't surprise me if this building weren't well loved. I doubt that it will ever be demolished.

[oscar9]

Dont get me wrong. The arndale tower is no graceful building but I rather look at that than the RSA building.To me it looks like a cancerous growth on the otherwise impressive Liverpool waterfront and with some nice new towers going up it looks more than out of place now IMO. It looks like it should be one of those brutalist council blocks in nottingham. Seems to me though that it polarises opinions as does Arndale tower in Manc.Do you really think this get will listed..mmm

[scouserdave]

But Oscar, the Cunard Building is a boring pastiche of a Venetian Palace, built 200 years after the Venetians gave up on that style. It's about as classy and authentic as a structure in EuroDisney. RSA is a modern building, it is authentic, of its era, designed, and creative. It moves things forward, challenges, and - to some - pleases the eye. The Cunard Building is just bog-standard turn of the century commercial pomp. It fills the space between two interesting buildings, and entirely fails to compete with the RSA in terms of contribution to the central cityscape.
A Venetian Palace?
Please expand :cheers:

[oscar9]

Agree the cunard building isn't the most impressive of the three graces. Didnt know it was based on a ventian palace. That one in St marks square ?

[Blabbernsmoke]

I always thought of the Cunard Bdg as Parisian, more than Venetian. But then, maybe the Parisians parodied the Venetians too. You're not thinking of the Port of Liverpool Bdg are you?

[oscar9]

The cunard is the middle one, right?

[Awayo]

The cunard is the middle one, right?


Yep, the one in the middle. It's style is after that of a renaissance Italian palazzo. The word 'palazzo', although usually translated into English as 'palace' refers to the large houses of the Venetian merchants or other notable families as well as actual palaces in the sense of the English word.

In Venice these large houses would typically have a square and horizontal shape. The below image shows a notable example. If you ignore the impressive mosiacs and concentrate on the building's form you can appreciate the Cunard building's architecture's inspiration in buildings of its type.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Palazzo_Barbarigo.gif

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/pierhead/cunardbuilding.jpg

[liverpolitan]

I was thinking more about the later ones, like this:

http://www.palazzograssi.it/eng/palazzo/index.html

There is another one that is far more like the Cunard Building, but I cant remember its name........will have to do a bit of digging.

[liverpolitan]

http://www.answers.com/topic/ca-rezzonico

This one looks more like it, but there are other later palaces (from 18th century) that also look quite similar to the Cunard Building.

[Awayo]

That one does look more similar to the Cunard, Poli.

Still you get the idea, in terms of the general proportions of the building, and even style detail (look at the shape of the Cunard ground floor windows cf the Barbarigo's in the image I posted).

I guess the architects of the latter Venetian palazzi took the older architecture of the city as their cue.