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hopo
June 27th, 2005, 11:26 PM
this may have been done before but its always an intresting one. what in your view is the best building in manchester? there are so many astonishing buildings, from the delicate beauty of St annes church, the impressive stance of Sunlight house to the brutal face of teh sunley tower. Manchester really does have it all. there really are so many fantastic buildings and the current boom in skyscraper construction will no doubt produce some huge architectual assets for the city.

in my eye there is no rival to teh town hall. it is truly magnificent from every angle. from distance, framed by brazenose st or on the skyline from Salford Quays. this building is without doubt the jewel in our crown

dannyb
June 27th, 2005, 11:29 PM
Central library is a true beaut!! oustanding quality

dannyb
June 27th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Perhaps a poll could be done on this?

Will be interesting to see if the result changes over the next few years ,with all the building activity

caw123
June 27th, 2005, 11:35 PM
Couldn't narrow it down to one.

I would be choosing from:
Town Hall
Palace Hotel
John Rylands Library
St James Buildings, Oxford Road
Midland Hotel

hopo
June 27th, 2005, 11:36 PM
if i knew how to do a poll then i would, but a poll would somewhat narrow the options, what if someones favourate building was sachas hotel??? they wouldnt get true representation..... mind you with taste like that they wouldnt deserve it!

andyains
June 27th, 2005, 11:38 PM
Central Library for me

hopo
June 27th, 2005, 11:39 PM
you suprise me ther caw... the rylands libray?? not a fan personaly. that whole area of deansgate is a shambles looks all over the place when you look down the street.

caw123
June 27th, 2005, 11:47 PM
John Rylands is suprising? The things a gem.
http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Manchester_John_Rylands_Lib.jpg

highriser
June 27th, 2005, 11:50 PM
I love the London Rd fire Station,,,, i wish someone will do it up .

Evilwillywonka
June 28th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Got to be the Town Hall, if you need convincing, go and have a look inside its unbeleivable!

Mr_ed2
June 28th, 2005, 12:11 AM
John rylands library for me, no question


http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk/news/launch4.jpg

scouserdave
June 28th, 2005, 12:21 AM
John Rylands is suprising? The things a gem.


Chris, where's this little beauty located? I'm up in Mancland in July. Hopefully it won't be pissing down :)

dj
June 28th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Not a fan of this faux gothic stuff, so will have to pick a building that I can't stop looking at in admiration............... Urbis

SleepyOne
June 28th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Im sorry, I just can't pick a favourite so it'll just have to be a list:

St James' Buildings
Town Hall Extension
1 Deansgate
Kendals
Ship Canal House
Midland Bank
Contact Theatre
Daily Express Building
Barbirolli Square
Arkwright House
St Anne's Church
Pinnacle
Sunlight House
CIS Tower
The Lowry
Timber Wharf
(ex) UMIST Main Building
Lancaster 80
Manto
GMEX
Central Library
Midland Hotel
Chinese Arch
Phoenix House
Bridgewater House
St Georges House
Whitworth Street West apartments
The Raddisson Edwardian Hotel

Farsight
June 28th, 2005, 01:10 AM
CIS
Sunley (when it's done up)
North Tower
Arndale Tower
Maths Tower
Lowry House
Urbis
M&SS
Precinct Centre

There's lots of nice old buildings, but they give me a wow surge in the chest like the bigger newer stuff. Near the top of the list when finished will be Beetham Tower, CJC, and Great Northern Tower.

Mez
June 28th, 2005, 01:22 AM
We're forgetting our beautiful, much visited friends,

Sinclairs oyster bar
The Old Wellington
Peveril of the Peak
Britons Protection
Brannigans
Circus tavern.

frozenmusic
June 28th, 2005, 01:25 AM
We're forgetting our beautiful, much visited friends,

Sinclairs oyster bar
The Old Wellington
Peveril of the Peak
Britons Protection
Brannigans
Circus tavern.

Yes!
Good point!
Oh, you genius!
I love you!
Argggh, wtf???
Nooooooooooo!

kids
June 28th, 2005, 01:38 AM
1. The town hall + extension
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/Albertsquare.jpg
2. Central library
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/Manchester_Central_Library2.jpg
3. Midland bank (hsbc)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/Manchester_Midland_Bank.jpg
4. The daily express building
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/Manchester_Daily_Express.jpg
5. The building opposite the science and industry building, can't remeber the name of it now, it's here pictured on the left:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/buildingliverpool.jpg

if i find a better picture of it i'll post it.

other mentions:
Urbis
University building
CIS
1 Deansgate
Sunlight house
Manchester theatre royal, peter street
bank of england tower
gmex
lee house
imperial war museum
the lowry centre
palace hotel
the radisson....i could go on for ages.

kids
June 28th, 2005, 01:51 AM
Do you think we should try and narrow it down and have a poll on the skybar?

Farsight
June 28th, 2005, 02:08 AM
Maybe. I was interested to come across this poll when searching Google for "Best building in Manchester".

http://www.unitedmanchester.com/architecture/vote.htm

dj
June 28th, 2005, 02:29 AM
Maybe. I was interested to come across this poll when searching Google for "Best building in Manchester".

http://www.unitedmanchester.com/architecture/vote.htm


Seems to be sponsored by Boddingtons, so proud of Manchester they F****d off out of town.

dj
June 28th, 2005, 02:31 AM
But the Boddies chimney is still a Manchester icon, hope to god it is listed

Griff
June 28th, 2005, 09:20 AM
I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet, but it even tops the Town Hall, Central Library, Rylands et al for me...

The Reform Club (Edward Salomons, 1870-71)

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Manchester_Reform_Club.jpg

One of the finest Venetian Gothic buildings around, make no mistake.

caw123
June 28th, 2005, 11:09 AM
YES! I was thinking of the reform club too, brilliant building, and its a shame it is often overlooked.

Chris, where's this little beauty located?

It's on Deansgate, but you won't be able to get a photo of it I'm afraid, it's being renovated and is covered in scaffolding.


A few more fantastic buildings that deserve a mention:

Brittania Hotel, each floor built in a different style
http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/manchester_britannia_hotel1_exterior.jpg

Minshull Street Courts
http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManPoliceCtsTracks4808.jpg

This one looks amazing on a bright sunny day, St Georges House
http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Manchester_YMCA.jpg

neil
June 28th, 2005, 11:59 AM
The building i like is St Thomas's Chop House on Cross St. I do not have a picture of it, but if someone has can they post it.

Mancunian
June 28th, 2005, 01:27 PM
Seems to me that a number of absoloutely spectacular mancunian buildings have been overlooked.

> Victoria Station Facade - Has those amazing stained glass destination signs
> COMS - Must be the most aesthetically pleasing stadium in the UK
> The Cathedral - Not the best example in the country but certainely comparable to St Annes
> Piccadilly Station - The Concourse is simplistically beautiful, the most airy, modern, and convenient terminus in the land and it still retains those lovely arches in the main station
> Although it hasn't been around long, I reckon the new RBS building on deansgate is really striking
> I also wish to nominate the entirity of Whitworth Street, the buildings tower over you in an extrememly awe inspiring and grand way. I feel it is the one strret in Manchester where all of the buildings are suitibley large and impressive to give a real big city feel. I also love the way they maintain a similar height throughout. A victorian masterpiece.

sprouty76
June 28th, 2005, 01:32 PM
Probably the town hall for me, closely followed by the Manchester University main building.

caw123
June 28th, 2005, 09:45 PM
Another of my faves has to be Pall Mall Court on King Street. Probably the 2nd best 60s building in Manc, after CIS.

Won a RIBA award in 1969:
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2818PallMallCourt_pic2.jpg

WeasteDevil
June 28th, 2005, 09:55 PM
Has to be the town hall.

Potato Man
June 29th, 2005, 12:18 AM
5. The building opposite the science and industry building, can't remeber the name of it now, it's here pictured on the left:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/buildingliverpool.jpg

That is the Sunday School building for the former St Matthews School. The church itself stood on the site of Castlefield House (which is currently being demolished)

The pub in the centre of the image is the White Lion, which is still serving ale to the good folk of Manchester. The Barton Street flats are going up on the site to the extreme right of the building. While the 'games' building is now green space - the site of the reconstructed fort ruins.

What a difference 50 years makes
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=53248

liverpolitan
June 29th, 2005, 12:27 AM
Daily Express Building.

Farsight
June 29th, 2005, 01:48 AM
I've been thinking about which building I'd be most upset about if it came to grief. So my clear winner is the big guy:

CIS

rolybling
June 29th, 2005, 11:25 AM
Central Library has always done it for me, then The Town Hall, and the main University building on Oxford Rd I like too

highriser
June 29th, 2005, 02:58 PM
A big Manc favorite

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/townhall.jpg


And the fabulous Minshull St courts


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/minshull.jpg

Farsight
June 29th, 2005, 03:15 PM
I like that Pall Mall Court too, caw. It's glass, but it isn't a flat surface.

Biosonic
June 29th, 2005, 03:24 PM
As an outsider (I've only ever driven through Manchester) I can only go on the pics I've seen here, but I think I have fallen in love with the Daily Express building - what a beauty! The neo-Gothic stuff is nice, but there's so much of it it is difficult to pic out an outstanding one.

Who designed the Minshull St Courts? It looks very much like a J H Chamberlain building...

WeasteDevil
June 29th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Thomas Worthington designed it, with some other really nice buildings too.

Salford lad.

hopo
June 29th, 2005, 08:03 PM
the pheonix (dont know how to spell it!) building? the white symetrical one on cross street housing the derbyshire building society oposite the glasses an the tanning shop nearish the town hall has to be a close runner up behind the town hall that is!

1. town hall
2. central libry
3. phenix building
4. hsbc bank
5. bank of england on king st and the tower extension
6. 201 deansgate
7. Rosseti place
8. m&s and selfridges
9. CORN EXCHANGE!!!! should be further up but cant b arsed to move it
10. Whitworth building

liverpolitan
June 29th, 2005, 10:10 PM
Okay, I have changed my mind, based on photos, so I am voting again:

1. St Georges House (any more photos of that? I am going to go and see it in person on my next visit....I think I may have walked past it but not looked up, and unless you looked up you'd obviously miss it...)

2. Daily Express Building (down from No 1).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P6160588.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P6160585.jpg

3. The Reform Club (why have I never seen a pic of that before???? it's almost like some of the best buildings are kept secret).

4. The curvey 70s building by Piccadilly Station that is to be turned into a hotel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P2020035.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/qwerty1234520012000/P2020034.jpg


5. The Palace Hotel building, just because it has a lovely staircase.

WeasteDevil
June 29th, 2005, 10:22 PM
1. St Georges House (any more photos of that? I am going to go and see it in person on my next visit....I think I may have walked past it but not looked up, and unless you looked up you'd obviously miss it...)

It's on the same street as the Midland Hotel, Free Trade Hall, and the old Theatre Royal (seen below).

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/manchestertheatreroyal.jpg

On Peter Street, you start with the Midland facing the Central Library, then to its left is St Georges, then the old Theatre Royal, then the Free Trade Hall.

kids
June 29th, 2005, 10:53 PM
I have compiled a list of mentions just to see which are our favourites so far.

Top 16 (all with 3 or more mentions)

Town hall + Extension 14
Central library 7
Midland Bank 5
Main university building 5
Daily Express Building 4
Urbis 4
Reform club 4
Palace Hotel 4
Royal Exchange Centre 4
CIS Tower 3
St Georges House 3
John Rylands Library 3
The Lowry 3
London Rd fire Station 3
UMIST Main Building 3
St James Buildings 3
Imperial war museum 3

The rest (all with 2 mentions)


Pall Mall Court 2
Sunlight House 2
Minshull Street Courts 2
M&S + Selfridges 2
GMEX 2
Bank of England (+ Tower) 2
The Raddisson Edwardian Hotel 2
Timber Wharf 2
Phoenix House 2
Midland Hotel 2
Gorton Monastery 2
Victoria Station 2
Piccadilliy Station 2
1 deansgate 2
Gateway house 2
Bridgewater Hall 2
1 Spinningfields square, Deansgate(RBS)2

These are the other mentions:

GN Building, deansgate
Peter House
Barton Arcade
Manchester Art Gallery
Salford Cathedral
Old Stock Exchange building
Pheonix building
201 Deansgate
Kendals
Ship Canal House
Contact Theatre
Barbirolli Square
Rosseti place
Arkwright House
St Anne's Church
Pinnacle
Manchester theatre royal, peter street
Lancaster 80
Manto
Lowry house
Whitworth Building
Precinct Centre
Whitworth Street West
Chinese Arch
Bridgewater House
Sunley House
Sinclairs oyster bar
The Old Wellington
Peveril of the Peak
Britons Protection
Brannigans
Circus tavern
Liverpool road sunday school
North Tower
Arndale Tower
Maths Tower
lee house
Brittania Hotel
St Thomas's Chop House
City of Manchester stadium
Manchester Cathedral

There's an awful lot!

I will update it as more people have there say.

retep68
June 29th, 2005, 11:15 PM
Timber Wharf (cos I live there)

And I'm suprised the following haven't had a mention:
Gorton Monastery
UMIST
Arndale Centre (kidding)
Royal Exchange (surely that got a vote and I missed it?!?!)
Old Stock Exchange

If I had to pick one, it would be the Midland Bank building at the top of King Street.

kids
June 29th, 2005, 11:34 PM
Welcome, UMIST and Royal Exchange have all had 1 vote.

SleepyOne
June 30th, 2005, 12:08 AM
Phoenix House has 2 votes KITR ;)

Interesting results though. Its great that it hasnt been restricted to a select list of buildings. This truly is an accurate reflection of our favourite or most loved buildings.

kids
June 30th, 2005, 12:16 AM
Phoenix House has 2 votes KITR ;)

Interesting results though. Its great that it hasnt been restricted to a select list of buildings. This truly is an accurate reflection of our favourite or most loved buildings.

aye, and it just shows how many amazing buildings we have, we're awash with great architecture.

highriser
June 30th, 2005, 12:23 AM
RETEP68 ,,, Gorton Monastry, is an absolute gem,i was just sticking to the city centre,i have to say i grew up in the shadow of the Monastry and i remember the monks when they used to be there, beautiful building ,truely one of Manchester's treasure's, its in the middle of a refurbishment at the moment, this could become a fantastic tourist attraction, with landscaped gardens around it, just with a bit of planning .

ManchesterISwonderful
June 30th, 2005, 12:25 AM
Tough question. . . there are so many lovely buildings in Manchester.

Few that I like of the top of my head :

London Road Fire Station
Midland Hotel
Gorton Monastery
Corn Echange
John Rylands
Vicky Station exterior
Urbis
Lowry
IWM
Central Library
Town Hall+Extension
The Reform Club
Piccy Station(someone mentioned the exterior. . . I agree looks lovely)
Deansgate No1
Bridgewater Hall
The building that covers the GN warehouse on Deansgate. (the long one)

( A few gems in the Northern Quarter as well. . .)


Good mixture of old and new.

kids
June 30th, 2005, 12:51 AM
I've just updated the list, the town hall is well in the lead with 12.

kids
June 30th, 2005, 12:55 AM
The building that covers the GN warehouse on Deansgate. (the long one)

do you mean bar 38, or the amc?

ManchesterISwonderful
June 30th, 2005, 01:01 AM
do you mean bar 38, or the amc?

The one on the main road(deansgate). It stretches from the Deansgate Locks to the end of the GN Quarter. It was made to cover up the GN warehouse. Has stripes on it!(and it's where King Sturge is based amongst other business')

kids
June 30th, 2005, 01:06 AM
hmm, don't know what that one's called, i'll just call it GN building, deansgate

ManchesterISwonderful
June 30th, 2005, 01:13 AM
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/ic13/57.jpg


I love it. Looks better in person.

Chorltonred
June 30th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Has to be the Town Hall. Our one truly great building.

caw123
June 30th, 2005, 11:35 AM
You can see the building that 'covers' the GN here:
http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/manchester/mhm28.htm

Has anyone mentioned the brilliant Salford Cathedral yet?
http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/manchester/salford-c14.jpg

fallowfieldian
June 30th, 2005, 11:40 AM
quite tough so many to choose from

Palace Hotel
UMIST
Central Library
Town Hall
Royal Exchange
Manchester Art Gallery
HSBC building on kings st
London Rd fire Station
St James Buildings
IWM
Manchester Museum
Peter house
Barton Arcade
Gateway house
Bridgewater Hall
1 spinningfield square

hmm i know missed something out

kids
June 30th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Just updated the list, the favourites so far are:

Town hall + Extension 14
Central library 7
Midland Bank 5
Daily Express Building 4
Urbis 4
Reform club 4
Palace Hotel 4
Royal Exchange Centre 4
Main university building 4
CIS Tower 3
St Georges House 3
John Rylands Library 3
The Lowry 3
London Rd fire Station 3
UMIST Main Building 3
St James Buildings 3
Imperial war museum 3

Farsight
June 30th, 2005, 02:49 PM
Huh? London Road Fire station is level pegging with CIS? Come on guys. If a meteor smashed out of the sky and took out a building, which would you be most upset about losing?

sprouty76
June 30th, 2005, 03:26 PM
Huh? London Road Fire station is level pegging with CIS? Come on guys. If a meteor smashed out of the sky and took out a building, which would you be most upset about losing?

I guess none of us saw that coming. Farsight being upset that an old lowrise is considered on a par with a tower.

Farsight
June 30th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Not upset sprouty. But come on, this is the skyscraper city. Not old low rise city. Is this poll really going to come out saying we'd rather lose the CIS than the Reform club?

sprouty76
June 30th, 2005, 03:47 PM
It's not as if the buildings that finish at the bottom are going to be pulled down!

It's not even that sensible to collate the results, some people cast about 12 votes! As far as I can tell, it was started as a topic for discussion, not simply as a straight vote.

Farsight
June 30th, 2005, 05:03 PM
All I was getting at was how do you pick your favourite building. Total Destruction kinda helps to focus the mind.

jrb
June 30th, 2005, 05:08 PM
Not my Fav building, but it's certainly worth a mention!

Don't think it has been mentioned yet?

Manchester Museum!

Its location lets it down! Right on Oxford road! If this building was near a square, open space or Park, it would look fantastic! Unfortunatley it's also surrounded by lots of 70's buildings, which don't help it!

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/ic2/74.jpg

http://museumsunwrapped.man.ac.uk/images/aboutus/manchester_museum.jpg

kids
June 30th, 2005, 06:32 PM
i've put manchester museum down as 'main university building'

kids
June 30th, 2005, 06:35 PM
It's not as if the buildings that finish at the bottom are going to be pulled down!

It's not even that sensible to collate the results, some people cast about 12 votes! As far as I can tell, it was started as a topic for discussion, not simply as a straight vote.

it's not a vote, i just put the list together so we can see which is our favourite.

liverpolitan
June 30th, 2005, 06:54 PM
No it's a vote, I've voted twice now.

kids
June 30th, 2005, 07:01 PM
oh ok, lets not argue about my list just discuss the buildings.

Griff
July 1st, 2005, 12:16 AM
Not upset sprouty. But come on, this is the skyscraper city. Not old low rise city.

How many more times are you going to wheel that argument out?

Is this poll really going to come out saying we'd rather lose the CIS than the Reform club?

I'd rather not lose either. I don't think that was the premise behind the poll. If push came to shove, though, I'd rather lose the CIS tower than the Reform Club or the Town Hall or Central Library or the London Road fire station, etc., etc. The CIS tower could (relatively) easily be built again if anything happened to it, but if any of these older buildings went, they'd be gone for ever. Furthermore, I doubt whether the CIS tower will held in as high esteem in ten years time when it's about the twentieth-tallest building in Manchester.

Farsight
July 1st, 2005, 01:09 AM
I'd rather lose the CIS tower than the Reform Club or the Town Hall or Central Library or the London Road fire station...

...Furthermore, I doubt whether the CIS tower will held in as high esteem in ten years time when it's about the twentieth-tallest building in Manchester. Aw join the dots Griff. If heritage buffs like you held sway, CIS would be Manchester's tallest building for another forty years.

Griff
July 1st, 2005, 08:02 AM
Aw join the dots Griff. If heritage buffs like you held sway, CIS would be Manchester's tallest building for another forty years.

I've no idea how you've reached that conclusion. I'm as excited as everyone else about the current crop of skyscraper proposals (maybe apart from Albany Tower, which I still think is a little bland). I just happen to appreciate outstanding architecture whatever era it's from.

Join the dots...? :?

Farsight
July 1st, 2005, 10:53 AM
I meant the dots in what I quoted.

Let's not argue. We all appreciate good buildings, and it's a shame that different prefences tend to result in arguments rather than understanding.

ManchesterISwonderful
July 1st, 2005, 11:59 AM
I meant the dots in what I quoted.

Let's not argue. We all appreciate good buildings, and it's a shame that different prefences tend to result in arguments rather than understanding.


You're the one who's jumping on everyone's post.

You're acting like the Skyscraper Thought Police.

Farsight
July 1st, 2005, 12:24 PM
Thought police? I'm sorry, I don't mean to be.

Blunther
July 1st, 2005, 01:03 PM
Farsight, just because this is skyscrapercity don't mean we have to worship concrete monstrosities just because they're 400feet tall, over low rise old gems... it's an architecture forum...

My Manc favourites would be the Express building and Sunlight House.

A wee picture:
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/001ewm/md/ManSunlightHseCldy2927.jpg

You sure do have a lot of stunning old buildings; many more than I thought. Bloody 60s brummie planners :bash:

Farsight
July 1st, 2005, 03:28 PM
just because this is skyscrapercity don't mean we have to worship concrete monstrosities just because they're 400feet tall No problem blunther. My favourite building in brum is HCT.

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=230188

Blunther
July 1st, 2005, 03:29 PM
No problem blunther. My favourite building in brum is HCT.

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=230188

:)

Can't see what all you Mancs see in CIS personally, especially the concrete liftshafty bit. Guess it's just something you grew up with, like us brummies with our BT Tower :)

caw123
July 1st, 2005, 03:53 PM
:)

Can't see what all you Mancs see in CIS personally, especially the concrete liftshafty bit. Guess it's just something you grew up with, like us brummies with our BT Tower :)

The concrete bit is messy but is being reclad. The rest of the tower has aged very well, it was started in 1959 don't forget!
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/118CISTower_pic25.jpg


Not upset sprouty. But come on, this is the skyscraper city. Not old low rise city. Is this poll really going to come out saying we'd rather lose the CIS than the Reform club?

So what if its skyscrapercity, that doesn't mean we all prefer tall buildings over small one purely because they are tall. From a heritage and architectural grandeur/splendor perspective, the CIS is nothing compared to the Reform Club. So what if it's 20m tall and CIS is 118m? Why would the height affect wether we would prefer it over something else? Reform Club is a gem, and as Griff says, a building like that just would not get rebuilt.

Farsight
July 1st, 2005, 04:14 PM
Timeless, caw. If you're looking for answers to your questions:

So what if its skyscrapercity, that doesn't mean we all prefer tall buildings over small one purely because they are tall. Agreed. For example, I prefer Urbis to 1 Deansgate. And the Town Hall, Central Library, etc are fine old buildings.

From a heritage and architectural grandeur/splendor perspective, the CIS is nothing compared to the Reform Club... Agreed from a heritage perspective. But definitely not from a grandeur/splendour perspective. The Reform club is a nice building, but it really isn't grand and splendid like some of the other older buildings in Manchester.

So what if it's 20m tall and CIS is 118m? Why would the height affect whether we would prefer it over something else? It's a factor. If the CIS (or Beetham) was 20m tall nobody would notice it, and it wouldn't feature in people's minds. It wouldn't make people feel proud and enthused and part of a successful city with a glowing future for them and their children.

Blunther
July 1st, 2005, 04:49 PM
Aye, it has aged well considering it's nearly 50 years old. Should look a lot better with the solar panels I agree. Certainly better than a lot of concrete stuff, but she's hardly a beaut :)

Still, each to their own!

caw123
July 1st, 2005, 04:55 PM
It's a factor. If the CIS (or Beetham) was 20m tall nobody would notice it, and it wouldn't feature in people's minds. It wouldn't make people feel proud and enthused and part of a successful city with a glowing future for them and their children.

If the CIS or Beetham were 20m tall they would be entirely different buildings, the height is the main thing for which they are noticed of course, and is also the main thing that makes them impressive. But a building like the Reform Club doesn't need height to be impressive. I for one would not favour one building over another merely because one is taller.

The CIS does NOT make people feel ''proud and enthused and part of a successful city with a glowing future for them and their children''. I'm sure most don't really take notice of it, those who do see it as that dreary 60s building on the horizon in between the Arndale and ''that one near Piccadilly''. Height can just as easily be detrimental as it can be impressive, I don't see anyone welling up with pride as they walk underneath Piccadilly Plaza.

ManchesterISwonderful
July 1st, 2005, 05:01 PM
It's a factor. If the CIS (or Beetham) was 20m tall nobody would notice it, and it wouldn't feature in people's minds. It wouldn't make people feel proud and enthused and part of a successful city with a glowing future for them and their children.


Actually I think the CIS is a bit of a post modern classic. The only thing that lets it down is that shaft. I am hoping the solar panels compliment the main tower.

Gareth
July 1st, 2005, 05:09 PM
I noticed a building I quite liked the last time I was in Manchester. It's opposite the Tai Wu restaurant in Chinatown. It's got a Pizza Hut on the bottom floor which spoils things a little.

Anyone know the building I mean?

caw123
July 1st, 2005, 05:21 PM
St James Buildings Gareth. Not in Chinatown though.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1269StJamesBuildings_pic1.jpg

Manc Guy
July 1st, 2005, 05:35 PM
CIS is a geat building...The reclad's going to drop jaws...

Best building in manchester...

Urbis

Farsight
July 1st, 2005, 06:29 PM
Sure is a nice building.

http://www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/blog1/images/010904-urbis.jpg

How do you reckon it compares to No. 1 Deansgate?

Gareth
July 2nd, 2005, 12:54 PM
St James Buildings Gareth. Not in Chinatown though.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1269StJamesBuildings_pic1.jpg

That's the one. It's a pretty sweet building that is. It could do with a use more fitting to it than a Pizza Hut though.

ManchesterISwonderful
July 2nd, 2005, 04:56 PM
Some other nice buidlings, that don't seem to get much of a mention:





http://www.ma.man.ac.uk/~higham/photos/manchester/040228-1055-30_std.jpg

Intersection of Police Street and King Street

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/manchestermemorialhall2.jpg

Memorial Hall


http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Manchester_Lancaster_House.jpg

Lancaster House

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Manchester_Parrs_Bank.jpg

Parrs Bank

bileduct
July 5th, 2005, 12:42 AM
All these suggestions but nothing by the wayward but under-appreciated genius Edgar Wood, the Mark E Smith of late Victorian and Edwardian Mancunian architecture :?

http://manchesterhistory.net/edgarwood/Wood/front.jpg

http://manchesterhistory.net/edgarwood/Elm/Elm2.jpg

http://manchesterhistory.net/edgarwood/Wood/LGate.jpg

Manc Guy
July 5th, 2005, 01:24 AM
Sure is a nice building.

http://www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/blog1/images/010904-urbis.jpg

How do you reckon it compares to No. 1 Deansgate?

Im not a huge fan of No1 Deansgate, i mean its alright...But theres much better archeitechture based around it, I mean i really like the facade on marks and sparks/Selfridges proper smart...Urbis is a significant and individual statement to the renaissance of our city and it looks stunning...It Location is rather dissapoiting, imagine urbis around piccadilly! Where its based now is kinda off to the outer edges of the the city center, when you walk past it accross the road from the printworks, the city stops sharpish almost...

leebuk2005
July 19th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Beetham Tower
CIS
1 Deansgate
There my top 3.

Jerv
July 19th, 2005, 09:57 PM
That's the one. It's a pretty sweet building that is. It could do with a use more fitting to it than a Pizza Hut though.

It has 9 Floors of very swanky office space above the street level. a Few of the country's biggest construction consultancies are in there. Arup and Scott Wilson for 2.

Accura4Matalan
July 19th, 2005, 10:24 PM
wow... i cant believe I've never posted in this thread.

Lancaster House :)

Evilwillywonka
July 19th, 2005, 10:26 PM
It has 9 Floors of very swanky office space above the street level. a Few of the country's biggest construction consultancies are in there. Arup and Scott Wilson for 2.

Except Scott Wilson have just moved out, I know because I walked through a pile of discarded paperwork, broken phones, used computer monitors in what used to be there offices this afternoon.

oscar9
July 19th, 2005, 11:37 PM
Favourite old's..Town Hall, Royal Exchange. Favourite 60's ...Sunley,CIS towers. Favourite contemporary's... Beetham tower(ok I know its not finished) , No 1 deansgate.

tommygunn
July 19th, 2005, 11:39 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid178/p76f582cfa813d0fb822eb9f193cb27bc/f330aff6.jpg

I like it.

kids
July 19th, 2005, 11:45 PM
good man :okay:

dannyb
July 20th, 2005, 01:37 PM
where exactly is lancaster house? its gorgeous.

its amazin the number of great buildings posted on here which i never noticed when in town; i dont have a clue where most of them are!

highriser
July 20th, 2005, 02:21 PM
Danny lancaster House is on Whitworth street , facing Canal St carpark

Accura4Matalan
July 20th, 2005, 02:26 PM
Lancaster House looks absolutely fantastic, especially when viewed from Canal Street. Well worth a look for all visitors!

Farsight
July 20th, 2005, 02:56 PM
I'm not a big fan of 1 Deansgate either manc guy. Each to his own though.

dannyb
July 20th, 2005, 04:32 PM
Danny lancaster House is on Whitworth street , facing Canal St carpark

ok, thanks highriser; i'll check it out next time im in town

rolybling
July 20th, 2005, 10:22 PM
Oh...and you can take a look at this baby

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8950.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8913.jpg

SOUTH end of Deansgate...enjoy

Isaac Newell
July 21st, 2005, 12:58 AM
The first church of Christ Scientist by Edgar Wood in Victoria Park is indeed the best building in Manchester. It has no precedent in the city. That school in Middleton is more the hallmark of his partner Henry Sellers. Go to Oldham and look at Seller's Dronsfield Brothers office, a prototypical thirties office block built before WW1. Also go to Halebarns and see Edgar Wood's own house. Again a thirties style house built in Edwardian times.

highriser
July 27th, 2005, 09:14 PM
A Manchester gem, which as been overlooked in this thread


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/gmex.jpg

hopo
July 27th, 2005, 09:28 PM
im not realy a fan of gmex, its a great use for the building and a great location but its design is poor. there has been little alteration from the original train shed which is good but the smoked glass entrance is rank and does no justice to the detailing of the arch.

Mez
July 27th, 2005, 09:42 PM
With the shiney Midland, Bridgewater hall and soon to be finished GN and Beetham, that entrance needs improving. Is labour still gonna use the Gmex for its rally things?

highriser
July 27th, 2005, 09:46 PM
While i was around here today ,i thought it would look great if the was a fantastic water feature inbetween the G-Mex and the Convention Centre

hopo
July 27th, 2005, 09:51 PM
have we herd anymore about that new tower proposed on windmill st? that would be a welcome adittion to the area, i do love barbiroli square and the canal with the bridgewater on 1 side and the lovely warehouse apartments on the other

Mez
July 27th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Yeah, Our city will look so much better with a new skyline but I thing we need more fountains,gardens etc to complete the feeling of a unique European city. Mcr would be far more appealling if its waterways,canals,rivers were given more attention. Bars along the Irwell!

vertigosufferer
August 21st, 2005, 11:54 PM
Traditional: Town Hall (it's a gem)
New: Urbis (how can you not like that cute building)