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resistme
June 28th, 2005, 12:56 AM
Who can do a skyline picture with all the new towers build or proposed?

http://uk.geocities.com/john.glenday@btinternet.com/Elphinstone_pano

http://uk.geocities.com/john.glenday@btinternet.com/Elphinstone_aerial

http://uk.geocities.com/john.glenday@btinternet.com/Elphinstone_church

http://uk.geocities.com/john.glenday@btinternet.com/Elphinstone_West_day

http://uk.geocities.com/john.glenday@btinternet.com/Elphinstone_M8_day

http://tinypic.com/pwylw

But anyone do it with Cheapside, Tradeston Tower, CHQ, etc....?

The Boy David
July 24th, 2005, 09:38 PM
Well resistme - this is it, the best I can do with Microsoft Paint.

I think its actually not bad :)

Two things to note - I havent included the third cheapside tower for clarity of image, and Elmbank is actually the top of the Westin Peachtree Atlanta, but the two towers are very similar IMO.

So here it is, Glasgows skyline by 2010-12, hopefully

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/Newviewlargeeverything.jpg

What do you guys think? Looks good, eh?

gleegie
July 24th, 2005, 09:58 PM
LOL! That's pretty good.

If Glasgow city centre looks anything like that come 2012 I'll be chuffed.

gleegie
July 24th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Aaach I give up. If you squint you're there.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/gleegie2/Elphinstone_M8_day.jpg

Great fun airbrushing out the Shaftesbury road tower block!

The Boy David
July 24th, 2005, 10:56 PM
Lol - thats no too bad either mate - roll on 2012...:)


Wishful thinking at the end of the day though, if we are being perfectly honest....


I just wish they would announce the Cheapside competition winner soon...

crusty_bint
July 24th, 2005, 11:01 PM
Looking good guys! hehehe Have you missed a Cheapside block out David or is yours in the wrong place Gleeg? The Marriot ought to get thier act together don't you think, the Holiday Inn too while Im at it? And BT should demolish Dial House and replace it with a telecom tower, that would be fun!

The Boy David
July 24th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Two things to note - I havent included the third cheapside tower for clarity of image...
Theres your answer matey :)

resistme
July 25th, 2005, 11:10 AM
WOW! Thanks you guys .... looks good, doesn't it! :)

crusty_bint
July 25th, 2005, 06:47 PM
oops... sorry David, dazzled by photoshoppery I was :)

gleegie
July 26th, 2005, 12:41 AM
I'm hopeful any new hotels in Charing Cross will put Holiday Inn and Marriott out of business. Or even better they'll vacate their decaying properties for the shiny new builds. Not a total impossibility either, I recall Marriott talking of a multi million refurb, can't remember if it went ahead. Up against Hilton they're sunk at the minute.

If the "ahem" montages show anything it's the importance of colour in these new designs. We need a bold usage of colour to put some vibrancy into the buildings. Clear glass boxes look great in Miami. Drab in Glasgow. Luckily turquoise Elphinstone is leading the way.

The Boy David
July 30th, 2005, 07:37 PM
oops... sorry David, dazzled by photoshoppery I was :)
Or just deep in thought, wondering:

"Is this guy serious? What exactly is that supposed to be a montage of?"

:lol:

Be_Happy
July 31st, 2005, 08:07 AM
Excellent work, guys. :okay:

Glasgow's getting there, slowly but surely.

Russell1
August 2nd, 2005, 03:23 AM
Heres my attempt on photoshop, viewed from queens park.

Left out cheapside trio and tryed adding cuprum and 220 broomielaw.
Hopefully Elmbank and Elf will compliment each other pretty well...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/sax0vtr/Stuff/100_2641copy.jpg

resistme
August 2nd, 2005, 11:39 AM
nice view Russell! see a 'cluster!

Russell1
August 2nd, 2005, 02:22 PM
another view using gleegieboys fab pic from the science tower

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/sax0vtr/Glasgow%20views/Glasgow_city_centrecopy.jpg

resistme
August 2nd, 2005, 02:24 PM
WOW!!! Nice one!

The Boy David
August 2nd, 2005, 07:22 PM
Top class Russel.

Seriously - how did you do that so well with such little to work from?


Awesome.

Soulsonic
August 2nd, 2005, 07:34 PM
Nice work Russell!

Russell1
August 2nd, 2005, 07:53 PM
Cheers, slected the area in front of where the tower was going copied it,put the tower in and pasted the foreground back over the top,then a wee bit of airbrushing of highlights and shadows and tweak the colour balance :)

gleegie
August 2nd, 2005, 09:55 PM
Very cool:)

To think that's only the half of it, Tradeston will have a big impact and if Cheapside comes off in a big way the Elmbank cluster will be mere background!

With Atlantic Quay now underway I would anticipate announcements on Cuprum, 220 Broomielaw et al soon...

resistme
August 4th, 2005, 03:27 PM
kewl. it will certainly give a city centre tower feel if all these developments get built

resistme
August 4th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Ok, so I think I might have got the size of cheapside wrong, but here's my first attempt at the M8 cluster from another angle!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a369/resistme/68a26339.jpg

The Boy David
August 5th, 2005, 12:09 AM
Ooooh resistme you have used a base picture I have long shyed away from because of its angle and colouring. A brave move indeed my friend :)

Thing is, at first I wasnt too sure of this montage, but after you look at it for a couple of minutes, it does seem to quite accurately show the scale of our proposals. So the sizes and angles might not be perfect, but the positioning is, and that counts for a lot.

And dont worrry: those Cheapside blocks are an absolute bastard to work with - there is not one angle I can find where all three fit into the montage properly.

I like - good work! :)

P.S. you got Elphinstone almost bang on there mate - well done!

resistme
August 5th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Ooooh resistme you have used a base picture I have long shyed away from because of its angle and colouring. A brave move indeed my friend :)

The base pic is actually brilliant - you can physically place all the towers on the picture except Elmbank which is partially obsure - you left one of the cheapside towers out for visiblity!

But it was a nightmare trying to get the perpective right for Cheapside - as I only have the opposite angle image to go on, and I'm using only Paint

Chief
August 6th, 2005, 12:34 AM
Given the impact it will have on the skyline, I think this thread is areaosnable place to bring this up:

Do you guys actually (really truly, deep down in the bottoms of your hearts) believe that Cheapside will ever live up to those renderings? Much as I'd love to believe it will, I very much doubt it'll happen.

Look at Elphinstone, which started out as 2 towers on the same base at first. Sure, they claim they had to change the design because of wind-testing. But I'm sure the more important reason for the design change was finance. Glasgow just isn't big enough to support a development of this magnitude. And, in response to some earlier posts about these towers making up for the loss of our 'commie blocks' - I really haven't heard such optimistic thinking in a long time! The two worlds just couldn't be further apart. The people in those blocks can't afford homes in new developments, and nor can they afford the homes of people who move in to such developments (or the homes of people who will move in to these homes, and on, and on).

I believe we'll get a vastly scaled-down version. I'm hoping it will still rise proudly above the Kingston Bridge. Just don't hold your breath for 3 50-storey towers. I reckon we'll be lucky if we get just one.

Vladimir V L
August 6th, 2005, 01:09 AM
Leeds seems to be big enough to support multiple developments, bear in mind its around the same size as Glasgow?

gleegie
August 6th, 2005, 03:10 PM
Glasgow IS getting richer and that dynamic will show itself in the urban fabric of the city in the coming decades. At no point did I say that people would decamp directly from the red Road estate to Cheapside. They WILL move into better homes though, be that less bad tower blocks, subsidised infill, council estates or whatever. What's it called? "Churn". It's a vastly important process and is happening now in the office market as companies decamp decaying outdated sixties blocks to modern premises despite major company relocations. The residential market is the same. Cheapside, if built, would instantly become the most desirable address in the city. Anyone with the cash would be moving in, indeed a built Cheapside would encourage other schemes to rise in competition (as we have seen in the southern cities). The big losers are going to be low quality schemes like Glasgow Harbour and Custom House Quay as these will become 2nd or 3rd choice addresses and was partly why I'm completely against their construction (at least in the form they've taken). What goes round, comes round though as they drop in value people on average incomes will be able to move in.

The people in those blocks can't afford homes in new developments, and nor can they afford the homes of people who move in to such developments (or the homes of people who will move in to these homes, and on, and on).

That's precisely my point. I don't know how to say this simply, if you demolish manky old blocks and build shiny new scrapers an increasing majority of the population will be living in better homes, it's not optimism it's inevitability. As people through the chain sell up and move on, the market gets shunted up. Of course people outside the economy are a problem, but they represent a diminishing proportion.

Also, I don't understand how you can say
The bruce plan is depressing... but it does symbolise great ambition (however misguided it may have been!). I just don't see that kind of spirit of ambition in the city planners today
and then...
Glasgow just isn't big enough to support a development of this magnitude.

The two opinions just don't sit. Cheapside has far more chance of going ahead than the Bruce plan ever did and is more impressive to boot?

At the present moment Glasgow is lagging, quite markedly, behind Leeds, Manchester and dependant on how the council behave, Liverpool. The lack of ambition you describe isn't just from the city planners, it's from Glasgow's architectural and development community with the complicity of the council. It also stems from the majority of the public (I'm not singling you out here), who dismiss as "too good for Glasgow" anything impressive that comes along, but meekly accept 3rd rate junk like CHQ, Jury's Inn. If we believe that these are the pinnacle of Glasgow's ambitions, then that is the Glasgow we will get. Glasgow deserves better.

Vladimir V L
August 6th, 2005, 05:07 PM
Does Glasgow really need big yuppie towers though... Very few other European cities are following in the footsteps of Manchester, Leeds and Birmingham, mainly because they dont have the rates of utter inequality it needs to produce these towers ie. very rich people to move in to Elphinstone and very poor people to rot in Easterhouse. What we are seeing here, and not just in construction, is a kind of Americanisation.

I noticed reading the Leeds forum that they were counting the UK's second city not on population, but on the meterage of their particular skyscraper.

I admit we need towers to compete with these places, if only so they dont laugh in our faces (...my towers 25 metres taller than your tower...) , but for no other reason.

resistme
August 6th, 2005, 06:46 PM
All it takes is a couple of successful developments to get established and then the whole desirabliity increases; think of London's Docklands area. Admittedly it took a decade after Canary Wharf was built and filled before it took off; now whole chunks of E14 are 'yuppiefied'; even ex-council blocks are being reclad and redone to offer cheaper Docklands appartments.

The whole ethos around the Docklands it live near your work. People can spend hours commuting to work every day; some prefer the lifestyle of suburban life, especially with kids, and require gardens etc; but the young or childless couples quite often prefer the city-life style. As I've said before, the Vancouver model works becauses it combines the best of both worlds; I just hope that developments like cheapside rememeber to provide cafes, shops and facilities on street level to extend the city centre buzz.

Once we have the first wave of developments built I'm sure that Cheapside-sized developments will prove successful too, provided the quality it maintained.

gleegie
August 6th, 2005, 08:20 PM
Does Glasgow really need big yuppie towers though...

Considering they're selling out, I think there's only one answer to that. The great advantage of Glasgow's market to (say) Edinburgh is that we are building hotel and office towers too. Supply and demand it's that simple.

Europe's economies have lower growth rates and stricter zoning regulations. Britains new towers are superior to most of America's "condo towers". Most are indigenously designed.

Easterhouse is a far nicer place to live than its cliched stereotype.

City rivalry is key to competitiveness.

I was under the impression that Glasgow had one of the largest rich/poor divisions in the UK? That's certainly been true throughout our history. Poor people are a fact of life and shouldn't be allowed to hinder our progress. However it's unfair to state that development is entirely geared to the upper end of the market. GHA are spending billions refurbishing the worst housing stock. For tennants (a few of which) will likely trash their properties within a few months, but that's another story.

It's not a question of yuppies Vs neds, but given the choice I'll take the former.

Vladimir V L
August 6th, 2005, 09:21 PM
Sorry to get all commie (like the multis) here but poor people dont have to be a fact of life.

Vladimir V L
August 6th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Europe's economies have lower growth rates

Many of them also have higher standards of living.

GHA are spending billions refurbishing the worst housing stock.

We'll see how far they get.

I agree with you about the growth in the economy, its about time that happened, weve been waiting long enough.

resistme
August 6th, 2005, 10:12 PM
Sorry to get all commie (like the multis) here but poor people dont have to be a fact of life.

Unfortunately SOME people DONT want to work and live off our, rather genererous in my opinion, state welfare system. They 'standard' may appear to be lower, but people HAVE to have a will to work.

I know there will always be unemployment through no fault of their own, but, and unfortunately i know of a couple of in laws, who sole ambition is actually to never work, and just live of the state. And she has her own studio flat paid for, and also seems to manage to find money to go clubbing every weekend. Nice for the 'rich' eh?

I have two mortgages now on two properties, one in Birmingham and one in London, but I still cant afford to go clubbing every weekend. Ironic, isn't it.

The point is, some people you can't change; for the rest, who aspire to bigger and better things, these new developments will appeal to them. The majority of people want to improve their lifestyles over time. I do.

Chief
August 7th, 2005, 12:32 AM
gleegie, I agree with your points... in principle, you are correct. But I think these changes and improvements in living standards take place over a very long period of time. It takes more than a bunch of towers blocks with homes that only the very rich can afford.

I'd love to be proven wrong, I really would. It would be fantastic to see development on this scale in Glasgow. But pragmatically, and in my opinion realistically, speaking I think that whatever cheapside development we end up with in the long run is going to be far shy of these renederings.

Another point that's already been raised is that these are clearly very, very preliminary sketches and nothing more than that. We have no detail on the development itself - Dandara are just exploring the possibilities.

Finally, on the point of Glasgow's ambition, really what I was trying to say was that the Bruce Plan signified a real desire to change things for the better. A gigantic effort to put right all that was wrong with the city in one fell swoop. And it was all led by the Council.

My feelings on the planning council of today are, to say the least, not warm. I'm by no means an expert on the subject (or in fact anything I've been ranting about on here) but there just doesn't seem to be much going on in their heads. With crap like Jury's Inn getting passed you wonder what they're on.

What I said in my previous post wasn't contradictory. Cheapside isn't a GCC initiative, it's a private one. When was the last time GCC did something really amazing for our city's built environment? Even their plans for George Square lead nowhere.

Vladimir V L
August 7th, 2005, 11:00 AM
What I said in my previous post wasn't contradictory. Cheapside isn't a GCC initiative, it's a private one. When was the last time GCC did something really amazing for our city's built environment? Even their plans for George Square lead nowhere.

Because the city council has lost all the power it once had. Companies decide what decisions the council make, not the other way around. The lack of willingness to control anything major can be seen in the way that just about every public service has now been privatised.

The same clearly goes for the planning department. Private initiatives work for the goals of a very small amount of people. Private incentive and want to make a profit of course comes into play, but the Council and the Bruce Plan worked (at least in principle) for the benifit of every citizen, and not just the rich.

gleegie
August 7th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Sorry to get all commie (like the multis) here but poor people dont have to be a fact of life.

No society be that communist, democratic, fascist or dictatorship have eliminated poverty. Egalitarian societys only exacerbate poverty in the long term by making the rich poorer than the poor are made richer. Short of reverting back to subsistence farming some people are going to be richer than others. In any case as Resistme says, nobody is poor in Glasgow. The poorest can all afford booze and fags, Sky TV, mobile phones etc etc.

The demographics of somewhere like Paris are likely worse than here, where the centre is richer and the suburbs poorer.

When was the last time GCC did something really amazing for our city's built environment?
1914. Completion of the Royal Infirmary. I don't want the city council anywhere near an architects drawing board, everything they touch turns to dust. The biggest disasters to befall this city have been perpetrated by the council. The biggest private disasters have been rubber stamped by the council. The great architecture we all enjoy is a product of unfettered Victorian capitalism. The great tenement estates were all privately financed.

We've been all through the Bruce Plan on the main thread. Only an organisation as inept as the city council could have conceived of something so incompetent. Far from benefitting Glasgow, it would have soley served the egotism of one Robert Bruce and the profits of a few private construction companies. Glasgow's noble poor would have been entombed in concrete and the rich (including Bruce and the city councillors) would have fled. Probably to Edinburgh or London, or maybe to Europe (where the living standards are higher).

Vladimir V L
August 7th, 2005, 05:58 PM
The demographics of somewhere like Paris are likely worse than here

They are bad but officialy nowhere in western Europe is as bad as Glasgow. People in Shettleston for example live til the age of about 63 on average. People in Pakistan live longer. To say nobody is poor is wrong, although a lot of people do 'kill themselfs' through drink, cigarettes etc.

The great architecture we all enjoy is a product of unfettered Victorian capitalism

This is true, but the cost on the rest of the city was appaling, hence the Bruce Plan, which was needed to replace the slums which had grown up during that era.

gleegie
August 7th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Exactly! If they were poorer they'd live longer cos they couldn't afford booze,fags and deep fried mars bars, that's what's killing them. That and the damp, soul destroying housing they're forced to live in.

If they were given food rationing tickets for fruit and veg instead of cash, that'd make a huge difference.

The Victorians were hurt by poor sanitation technology. That was just lack of understanding. MP's at parliament had to work next to an open sewer. By the thirties those homes could have been made fit to live in with electricity/plumbing/sanitation. The "slums" were better built than anything since.

crusty_bint
August 8th, 2005, 12:06 AM
Exactly! If they were poorer they'd live longer cos they couldn't afford booze,fags and deep fried mars bars, that's what's killing them. That and the damp, soul destroying housing they're forced to live in.

If they were given food rationing tickets for fruit and veg instead of cash, that'd make a huge difference.

My, my Gleegie, aren't we the little closet fascist! Whats all this THEY shit? I grew up in Shit-hole-ston and I was piss poor ...and I'm not talking 40, 30 or even 20 years ago, I was just another statistic until I got the opportunity (i.e. was old enough) to get the fuck away from that place. And yes, both my parents smoked, and drank and did all those things that numbers crunchers love to look down thier nose at, but the fact remains when you have fuck all and no prospect of fuck all what else is there? And how could my parents afford these habits? Simple: I didn't get fed, nor clothed nor even Christmas some years. Do you honestly think a rationing or voucher system would have made it any better? I. Think. Not.

And yeah alright, boo fukkin hoo, big sob story and all that, but a story thats repeated everywhere in a viscious cycle and isn't helped by petty-minded views like the one you've just expressed. Disappointed to read your comments there Gleegie, disappointed to say the very least. :no: :( How would you feel about rounding all THEM poor folk up and gasing THEM all ...then we could give all thier lovely tenements over to people with a bit of money that really deserve them?

londonindyboy
August 8th, 2005, 12:27 AM
nice pics.

resistme
August 8th, 2005, 01:05 AM
My, my Gleegie, aren't we the little closet fascist! Whats all this THEY shit? I grew up in Shit-hole-ston and I was piss poor ...and I'm not talking 40, 30 or even 20 years ago, I was just another statistic until I got the opportunity (i.e. was old enough) to get the fuck away from that place. And yes, both my parents smoked, and drank and did all those things that numbers crunchers love to look down thier nose at, but the fact remains when you have fuck all and no prospect of fuck all what else is there? And how could my parents afford these habits? Simple: I didn't get fed, nor clothed nor even Christmas some years. Do you honestly think a rationing or voucher system would have made it any better? I. Think. Not.

And yeah alright, boo fukkin hoo, big sob story and all that, but a story thats repeated everywhere in a viscious cycle and isn't helped by petty-minded views like the one you've just expressed. Disappointed to read your comments there Gleegie, disappointed to say the very least. :no: :( How would you feel about rounding all THEM poor folk up and gasing THEM all ...then we could give all thier lovely tenements over to people with a bit of money that really deserve them?

Ouch! Maybe this 'discussion' is a little heated; isn't it? And it's certainly deviated from THIS thread's intension; ie Glasgow SKYLINE! :bash:

Hence I've created a new thread The Rich-Poor Debate http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=243141 to move this debate elsewhere....

nice pics.

And thanks londonindyboy for bringing this thread back to its title! :)

crusty_bint
August 8th, 2005, 01:22 AM
Erm... perhaps that was worded rather strongly! My apologies Gleegie, no offence meant. Sorry mate m))

The Boy David
September 26th, 2005, 02:01 PM
Urggghhhh - its rough as a badgers arse, and Photobucket has reduced the size by a bastarding huge amount, but hey ho:

This is based on LSyd's magnificant pano he did of the city centre from the top of the lighthouse.

Starting from the left, Elphinstone, Elmbank, Dalmarnock Tower (near parkhead in the distance), CHQ (yes I know its facing the wrong way...) and the Dixon Street McGerkin. For obvious reasons I haven't included Cheapside :(

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/pano.jpg

Looks so spread out from this angle, but from others (i.e. the science centre) it should look much more compact.

gleegie
September 26th, 2005, 06:49 PM
The Dalmarnock tower will make the East end look like Detroit. A glass needle rising out of the wasteland.

I love contrast.

Vladimir V L
September 26th, 2005, 07:35 PM
The older skyscrapers in Detroit are wonderful Book Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=347507)
this one in particular would be great in Glasgow.

gleegie
September 27th, 2005, 12:32 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of the Renaissance Centre (http://www.buildingsrus.co.uk/detroit/renaissance_center/renaissance_center.html)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2654/image2563ut.jpg

Book tower's great, though disfigured by an ungainly fire escape and dilapidation. The art deco stuff was the high watermark in skyscraper design, although I really like the brutalist seventies "super" scrapers, Sears, Hancock and WTC. The bleak futurism appeals to me.

Vladimir V L
September 27th, 2005, 12:41 AM
Would anyone 'escape' that high up and not have a heart attack after looking down!!! Im not so keen on the all-glass type 'scrapers' I prefer to see each window, giving a sense of height. The Detroit complex is really stange, it looks like something martains might live in, though the sheer scale of the place seems impressive. Its actually quite impressive that whats going up in Glasgow would be in the top 10 of their skyscrapers, Elphinstone no. 11 and Dalmarnock No. 8 or 9 in their list. :)

The Boy David
September 27th, 2005, 12:55 AM
Would anyone 'escape' that high up and not have a heart attack after looking down!!! Im not so keen on the all-glass type 'scrapers' I prefer to see each window, giving a sense of height. The Detroit complex is really stange, it looks like something martains might live in, though the sheer scale of the place seems impressive
You think that looks strange? Look at the Renaissence Centre compaired to the rest of the skyline - its truely bizarre, and as you say, slightly other-worldly:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/detroit-skyline.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/1553704-Travel_Picture-Detroit_skyl.jpg

Strange place, Detroit - one city Glasgow does NOT want to mimic or aspire to.

crusty_bint
September 27th, 2005, 01:06 AM
Was the Renaissance Centre not used in Buck Rogers?

Vladimir V L
September 27th, 2005, 02:01 AM
''Strange place, Detroit - one city Glasgow does NOT want to mimic or aspire to.''

Sadly its a place we have a lot in common with, using the same tactics to ward off total depression ie. building skyscrapers and malls. I know they are a lot worse though, in every sense...

as cities burn
September 27th, 2005, 05:17 PM
For obvious reasons I haven't included Cheapside :(


What's happened to Cheapside? Have they scrapped the tower plans or something? Nice pano tho :)

The Boy David
September 27th, 2005, 05:49 PM
What's happened to Cheapside? Have they scrapped the tower plans or something? Nice pano tho :)
Accch mate I have no idea - it certainly hasn't become any more concrete than it was when Pooka discovered it... and all we had to go on was one basic rendering....

Probably just a pipe dream, so there is no real point in putting them into the pano just now :(

It gave us all something to talk about, though....

resistme
September 30th, 2005, 06:24 PM
Shame, I even drew my own rendition of cheapside (my first one!)!

The Boy David
September 30th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Shame, I even drew my own rendition of cheapside (my first one!)!
Really?! You should still post it! Keeping the dream alive, and all that :)

Go on champ - give us a cheeky wee look!

resistme
October 2nd, 2005, 10:14 PM
Really?! You should still post it! Keeping the dream alive, and all that :)

Go on champ - give us a cheeky wee look!

I did, in the skyline thread! Here it is again!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a369/resistme/68a26339.jpg

You never know, it might come true!

Anyone heard any more about the Dalmarnock Tower plans now?

wardrobes
October 17th, 2005, 05:53 PM
nice

Russell1
February 20th, 2006, 07:33 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/sax0vtr/Stuff/142.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/sax0vtr/Stuff/141.jpg

The Boy David
February 21st, 2006, 06:20 PM
Nicely done there matey!

Doesn't make much of an impact, does it? Despite being ~200ft tall...

Hmmmmm...


Still, good stuff russell - your artistic talents continue to impress :)

gleegie
February 21st, 2006, 07:30 PM
Yeah, the first one's spot on.

and Photobucket has reduced the size by a bastarding huge amount, but hey ho:


If you send me a larger copy I can upload it.

Longstreet
March 2nd, 2006, 03:53 PM
Er....point of order. Those 40-floor plus towers shown at Cheapside were never meant for there. These images were early versions of designs for Glasgow Harbour.
The images were from Dandara and they flatly deny that these were planned for anywhere near the Cheapside site.
At least that's the line from their PR company.
Whatever the truth of the matter these scrapers will not be happening at Cheapside.

westisbest
March 2nd, 2006, 06:28 PM
Nice City

The Boy David
March 2nd, 2006, 07:38 PM
Nice City
Well thanks :)



Longstreet, we kind of know that now, but at the time it caused quite a stir amoungst some of the forumers here, hence the crazy montages you see on the first page.

It looked pretty spectacular, so people instantly jumped onto it.


Still, we've got gm+ad's cheapside street proposal to come, whenever that is allowed to see the light of day :)

resistme
March 3rd, 2006, 11:23 AM
Guess we still have to wait for what we get for the prestigous potential cluster site at Cheepside, just hope that it's good and a proper cluster, rather than a single tower that sticks out like a sore thumb! Love to see a a parnoramic tower cluster skirting the M8!

gleegie
March 5th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Er....point of order. Those 40-floor plus towers shown at Cheapside were never meant for there. These images were early versions of designs for Glasgow Harbour.
The images were from Dandara and they flatly deny that these were planned for anywhere near the Cheapside site.
At least that's the line from their PR company.
Whatever the truth of the matter these scrapers will not be happening at Cheapside.
No way is that Glasgow Harbour, the site doesn't have that depth and moreover doesn't have a Kingston Bridge. Dandara are working on Cheapside AND Glasgow Harbour, worryingly they (or more probably a PR monkey) seem to have confused both. Original versions had "Glasgow Harbour" unhelpfully describing the scene later amended to "Glasgow Waterfront".

But, yeah, whatever. It's a red herring.

Longstreet
March 6th, 2006, 04:05 PM
Gleegieboy.....Agreed. I understood the bridge in the image to be the Kingston Bridge meaning this could only be Cheapside, but like I said flatly denied.
By the way folks the Cheapside site is being cleared businesslike for anyone not able to check it out recently. Even the rubble is an improvement on the pub that used to sit there.

The Boy David
March 6th, 2006, 08:43 PM
By the way folks the Cheapside site is being cleared businesslike for anyone not able to check it out recently. Even the rubble is an improvement on the pub that used to sit there.
Aye noticed that passing it the other day.

The mind boggles...

The Boy David
May 21st, 2006, 09:44 PM
Apologies to Russell for ruining his montage :)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/the_boy_david/cheapsiderender2Elphinstone.jpg

resistme
July 11th, 2008, 11:23 PM
Anyone up to doing a revised Glasgow skyline, including the all the new developments?

crusty_bint
July 12th, 2008, 05:41 AM
north east cluster from the south west
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2636884601_c771f402b5_b.jpg

detail
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2637727200_094b78f815_o.jpg

M_Riaz
July 12th, 2008, 07:53 PM
Glasgow Skylines 1973 (http://www.williemiller.co.uk/photos/album/glasgow-skylines-1973/page/1/)

A nostalgic look @ 70s Skylines (http://www.flickr.com/slideShow/index.gne?set_id=72157603018872270). Oh how times have changed. :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/1925426912_8f2ecd7227.jpg

resistme
July 15th, 2008, 11:52 PM
Glasgow Skylines 1973 (http://www.williemiller.co.uk/photos/album/glasgow-skylines-1973/page/1/)

A nostalgic look @ 70s Skylines (http://www.flickr.com/slideShow/index.gne?set_id=72157603018872270). Oh how times have changed. :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/1925426912_8f2ecd7227.jpg

Jeaz - i was barely alive then!

resistme
July 15th, 2008, 11:58 PM
From a distance the North East cluster looks kewl!

djmaxliving
August 13th, 2008, 03:10 AM
This is a bit scrapie but just a quick image of Glasgow skyline future i did miss one or two out.And take the piss ill get my crew on to you.:lol:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn179/djmaxliving/site_locationn.jpg

Boards
August 13th, 2008, 04:05 AM
You're an air steward? That would explain the shot mind;) Seriously though that's not a good shot and it's difficult to photoshop from that angle. You've also missed a shedload off. If you hold off till winter when the trees are bare I've got a good vantage point, should know the Bothwell Plaza design by then too:) Look at the difference in my shot below, it was just a phone shot from a moving car but gives you a true idea of the real bulk,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/TheeBoards/DSC00183.jpg

djmaxliving
August 13th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Not bad picture quite good its hard to take pictures from the motorway even going at a low speed. But Glasgow looks like a different city.

zipper
August 13th, 2008, 03:37 PM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/Alileith/DSC00438.jpg

The Boy David
August 13th, 2008, 07:35 PM
Good picture zipper - Cuprum has made much more of an impact to the skyline from almost every angle than I thought it would.

Chief
August 13th, 2008, 11:37 PM
Aw man that Opps a Daisy van in Zipper's photo reminds me of home big time. It's a great wee flower round the corner from my house in Bishy - whenever I get my Mum flowers they come from there. She loves them.

Major nostalgia trip. :)

Objekt.
August 14th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Aw man that Opps a Daisy van in Zipper's photo reminds me of home big time. It's a great wee flower round the corner from my house in Bishy - whenever I get my Mum flowers they come from there. She loves them.

Major nostalgia trip. :)


Hahaha. It's funny how I know exactly where you're talking about. I am familiar with that store, but just to inform you that it shut down a while ago. It became a gift store aptly titled "Gifted", but I'm sure that it's a Subway now. :(

thewonder
August 14th, 2008, 03:50 PM
Hahaha. It's funny how I know exactly where you're talking about. I am familiar with that store, but just to inform you that it shut down a while ago. It became a gift store aptly titled "Gifted", but I'm sure that it's a Subway now. :(

That was the other flower shop that shut...

..Oopsa daisy is still going strong!

Objekt.
August 14th, 2008, 04:36 PM
Ah yeah, sorry! Oops-a-Daisy is next to Cafe Trevi isn't it?

My bad.

zipper
August 14th, 2008, 04:52 PM
Cafe Trevi......possibly the worlds smallest restaurant

nice food all the same

thewonder
August 14th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Yeah, it used to be the old record store (back in the day!)

Seems there are a few Bishy punters on here?

That place has saved many a mothers day for me.

Objekt.
August 14th, 2008, 06:03 PM
Yeah, it used to be the old record store (back in the day!)

Seems there are a few Bishy punters on here?

That place has saved many a mothers day for me.

Hahaha I'm a former Bishy resident. As of January 2007 I resided to the "Land of a Million Houses.... and that's about it" (a.k.a Robroyston).
Are Oops a Daisy reasonably priced?

zipper
August 15th, 2008, 09:06 AM
Yeah, it used to be the old record store (back in the day!)

Seems there are a few Bishy punters on here?

.

Tom Russells Record Store if i remember rightly
did he not do the "rock" show on radio clyde
was funny he always had a gruff voice on the radio
but when you spoke to him in the shop it was normal

was born in Bishy

Monkey9000
August 15th, 2008, 10:18 AM
He presents on 96.3 Rock Radio now- still with the gruff voice.

Bingo Bango
August 15th, 2008, 10:47 AM
I am a former resident, born and raised, of bishopbriggs - 27 years!

small world eh? i always thought the site at the cross with the pishy wee insurance shop at it would make a great mini-flat iron building. The barbers there with the brick tower and all the roofs would make it very interesting.....with the memorial over the road.

Chief
August 18th, 2008, 12:52 AM
I'm a Bishy boy born and raised - was sad to see Tom Russell's go, but Oops-a-Daisy seem to do a roaring trade so good on them. I wouldn't say they're 'reasonably priced' cos I always find them a bit expensive, but maybe that's just because my Mum has an exotic taste in flowers.

That 'Gifted' shop looked doomed from the day it opened...

conloch
October 12th, 2009, 12:23 PM
does anyone know when work starts on elphinstone tower?

indiekid
October 12th, 2009, 12:39 PM
Sadly, Elphinstone has been cancelled.