Cities With Platform Screen Doors
- Are platform screen doors in use in your city's rail system? If so, where? Who manufactures them? If not, why?

No, not in Toronto because we don't have enough funding for improvements to the system.

HK, Guangzhou, Shenzhen

KYOTO, Bangkok, Paris

NY has them on the AirTrain.

Barcelona:
-In one station of line 6 and line 7.
-Being installed in line 11, 5 stations.
-Also in lines 9 and 10, under construction.
;)

Not in USA, just only in Las Vegas (full) and Seattle (gate).

Singapore, Tokyo

London, Athens?

^I believe athens don't have them.

London, Athens?

Not in Athens...
:nono:

Taipei MRT - the world's first retrofit of platform screen doors.
Kaohsiung MRT

Contractor: Singapore Technologies Electronics Limited.
http://www.stee.com.sg/newsrm/2005/02-04.htm

Toulouse and Lille VAL metro have platform screen doors.

Both are completeley automatic metro systems....

:)

couple of them in HK..

In Paris on the Line 14 :
http://www.navily.net/images/biblio_l14_2.jpg

http://www.memoire-vive.org/moblog/images/200501300058/PICT6440.jpg

http://www.navily.net/images/meteor_ouvert.jpg

http://vina.vkw.tu-dresden.de/Paris-Fotos/M5-g.jpg


Near Paris on the OrlyVal (airport shuttle) :
http://metro.free.fr/big/358.jpg


Soon in Roissy CdG Airport :


In Lille on the Lines A & B :
http://vina.vkw.tu-dresden.de/Paris-Fotos/L8-g.jpg

http://vina.vkw.tu-dresden.de/Paris-Fotos/L9-g.jpg


In Toulouse on the Line A :
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/toulouse/images/toulouse10.jpg


In Rennes on the Line A :
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~lindberg/images/frankrike/images/068%20-%20folk%20v%E4ntar%20p%E5%20metron%20i%20rennes.jpg

Thats just scary. What if a train stops in the tunnell or a fire breaks loose? I dont like such stations at all. They look futuristic and nice, but safe, nono..

Regards,
Michal

^They are made for security, so In think hey have thought about those problems too, and I bet the doors will open in case of fire. ;)

Thats just scary. What if a train stops in the tunnell or a fire breaks loose? I dont like such stations at all. They look futuristic and nice, but safe, nono..
Platform screen doors can easily be opened manually in an emergency from either side.

EDIT: ^... as far as I know.

Copenhagen has platform doors. The Turin metro will have them, too.
All VAL systems have them.

Copenhagen uses screen doors at platforms throughout its metro network (M-trains only).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_screen_d_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_screen_d_3.jpg

Copenhagen has platform doors. The Turin metro will have them, too.
All VAL systems have them.

Damn, you beat me to it! :laugh: :D

well,.. I dont like them. You feel like youre closed into something.. and cannot scream over to the other side of the platform.. :)

This is a nice station.. Nydalen station: No walls between platforms and tracks. Nice, tidy and safe!... With red lights in the platform blinking when the subway arrives...
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/osl/nydalen2.jpg

http://trikkogbane.info/bilder/0215C.jpg

http://trikkogbane.info/bilder/0215D.jpg

St Petersburg has windowless steel doors in some stations, not very inviting.

IMO, I think Hong Kong has the nicest screen doors.

London, just 8 stations all on the Jubilee Line

(Westminster, Waterloo, Southwark, London Bridge, Bermondsey, Canada Water, Canary Wharf, North Greenwich)

I'm not aware of any plans to retro-fit any more... Although the Central and Victoria Lines are prime candidates as they're both fully automatic.

An interesting subject! I made a webpage from the information in this forum thread:

http://mic-ro.com/metro/platform-screen-doors.html

I hope to get the list complete sometime...

All monorails have some sort of barrier (gate or edge door)- it's a long way down to the street! since there's no "railbed".

In cold climates or very hot climates, the platform edge doors allows the station to be heated or air conditioned.

Barcelona (lines 5 and 11; under construction in lines 9 and 10)

Micro, in Barcelona, lines 5 and 11 are being retrofitted with platform screen doors(PSD), so don't have them yet.
Also, in lines 9 and 10, it's not the PSD which are under construction... it's the lines themselves.

Just to make it more clear. :)

IMO, I think Hong Kong has the nicest screen doors.

I agree, but London and Paris also have some nice PSD.

Not in USA, just only in Las Vegas (full) and Seattle (gate).

Um, NYC has PSD on the AirTrains.

http://www.transitpicsgallery.com/gallery/albums/2_24_05/AIRTRAIN_006.sized.jpg

http://www.transitpicsgallery.com/gallery/2_24_05?page=1

The Sea-Tac airport loop automated subway has screen doors, too.

All monorails have some sort of barrier (gate or edge door)- it's a long way down to the street! since there's no "railbed".

In cold climates or very hot climates, the platform edge doors allows the station to be heated or air conditioned.


You're right about the climate thingy. I can't imagine how hot the subway stations would be if Singapore's and KL's do not have these platform doors. ;)

I do not recall any barrier at the monorail stations in Sydney and Walt Disney World but both the monorail systems in Malaysia (and even the one at Sentosa, Singapore) do not have such barrier. This is because all monorail stations have a platform beneath the rail just like a regular metro's.

Taipei claims the world's first retrofit programme too? Tsk tsk tsk...

Thats just scary. What if a train stops in the tunnell or a fire breaks loose? I dont like such stations at all. They look futuristic and nice, but safe, nono..

Regards,
Michal


IN fact the main contribution of platform screen doors to commuters are in fact safety and not aesthetics as many would have thought. Especially in the case of fire. ;)

When an underground train goes thru a tunnel, it pushes a large volume of air in front. When there is a fire in any part of the tunnel or in any station, such rush of air would result in an explosion. Furthermore it prevents people from going too near the train when it is in motion or to jump onto the track.

I have seen a documentary on platform screen doors before (on Discovery Channel I think) and they enhances the safety and aesthetics of a rail system. :okay:

I don't have a problem with them, prevents accidents and suicides. I think theyr'e a nice feature.

But speaking from my rail enthusiast point of view, I hate em' because I can't get up nice n close to the train, especially when an express speeds through the station :(

Copenhagen has platform doors. The Turin metro will have them, too.
All VAL systems have them.


All VAL systems have platform screen doors ... except in Jacksonville where there is only an iron gate.
The line (1km) was build in 1987 but the cars has been sold to Chicago in 1996.
So, indded now we can say all VAL systems have platform screen doors ;)
Old system (VAL 256):
http://images.nycsubway.org//i19000/img_19807.jpg

New system (monorail) :
http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/images/Jacksonville/JeffersonExterior.jpg
Terminal Station has been renamed Jeffersson Station.


Not in USA, just only in Las Vegas (full) and Seattle (gate).

Um, NYC has PSD on the AirTrains.
In Chicago, as well (see below) ;)


All others VAL systems :

Lille (VAL 206 & 208, since 1983) :
45 km (13.3 + 31.7), 265 000 passengers/day


Paris-Orly (VAL 206, since 1991):
7.2km, 7 500 p/d


Chicago O'Hare (VAL 256, since 1993):
4.3km, 15 000 p/d
http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/images/Chicago/OHare/Term3Interior.jpg

http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/images/Chicago/OHare/LotEPlatform.jpg

http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/images/Chicago/OHare/LotEExterior.jpg


Toulouse (VAL 206 & 208, since 1994):
12.5km (28.5km in 2007), 140.000 p/d


Taipei (VAL 256, since 1996) :
13 km, 90 000 p/d
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/taip/mucha1.jpg


Rennes (VAL 208, since 2002):
9.5km, 80 000 p/d


Torino (VAL 208, in 2005)
9.6km
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/REU08_b.jpg

http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/turin/images/VAL208.jpg


Paris-Roissy (VAL 208, in 2006):
3.8km


Concerning the line 14 in Paris the lenght is 8km for 350 000 p/d. It's also an automatic metro system.

Just to add to the list, the Gold Coast Monorail has screen doors on the platform.
http://www.gensec.co.nz/media/product/10064/turnstilespic3.jpg

http://www.gensec.co.nz/media/product/10064/turnstilespic4.jpg

IN fact the main contribution of platform screen doors to commuters are in fact safety and not aesthetics as many would have thought. Especially in the case of fire. ;)

When an underground train goes thru a tunnel, it pushes a large volume of air in front. When there is a fire in any part of the tunnel or in any station, such rush of air would result in an explosion. Furthermore it prevents people from going too near the train when it is in motion or to jump onto the track.

I have seen a documentary on platform screen doors before (on Discovery Channel I think) and they enhances the safety and aesthetics of a rail system. :okay:

The fact that trains kept running through King's Cross-St Pancras Station compex during the 1987 fire disaster (http://www.firetactics.com/KINGSCROSS.htm) was a huge contributory factor to the massive death toll. The fire under an escalator was fanned by the air forced up the shaft by passing trains, leading to 31 deaths.

That being said, PEDs as seen on the Jubilee Line in London and Ligne 14 in Paris make no difference with regards to ventilation (i'm sure intentionally) as the tunnel isn't sealed by the PEDs, they just present a barrier to passengers whilst leaving a large gap above for air to circulate. On air-conditioned networks like Singapore and Hong Kong this is undesiarble, but positively necessary on The Tube.

Micro, in Barcelona, lines 5 and 11 are being retrofitted with platform screen doors(PSD), so don't have them yet.
Also, in lines 9 and 10, it's not the PSD which are under construction... it's the lines themselves.

Just to make it more clear. :)
Thanks, I updated the page.

London, just 8 stations all on the Jubilee Line

(Westminster, Waterloo, Southwark, London Bridge, Bermondsey, Canada Water, Canary Wharf, North Greenwich)

Don't forget Heathrow Terminal 5 (u/c)

I'm surprised they don't use these for LRT systems in places with cold climates. It would be great to have these because you have direct climate controlled access to the vehicles.

Torino

-M1 (Blue - November 2005):

http://www.metrotorino.it/img/uso_percorso_b.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/struttura_staz.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/acc_3_big.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/Massaua01.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/PT_VUE.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/rendering01_b.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/pnuova1.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/uso_pareti_b.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/uso_scale_b.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/uso_obliteratrice_b.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/uso_obliter_b.jpg


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http://www.metrotorino.it/img/foto_mese_06_05.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/img03_06_05.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/lav_MARCHE_08_06_05.jpg
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http://www.metrotorino.it/img/lav_RIVOLI_08_06_05.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/laV_POZZOSTRADA_08_06_05.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/lav_PARADISO_08_06_05.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/4_08_06_05.jpg
http://www.metrotorino.it/img/3_08_06_05.jpg

Bangkok Subway

http://kaigaigazou.hp.infoseek.co.jp/photo/thai/bangkok/subway/111_1180.JPG

A few pics (mostly) from Britain - from one of the pages on my web site.

Sorry, a few are little dark - they were made on a pc with a screen that needed calibrating. When i find the time I plan to re-edit them.

Simon

http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/Stops.htm

http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/PhotoCD/2083_29.jpg

In London platform doors were first introduced with the 1999 extension of the Jubilee line, where they initally proved to be somewhat troublesome as seen here (above) from inside a train when only the trains' doors opened. The view (below) shows the doors in use at Southwark station shortly after opening and with building works almost completed.

http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/PhotoCD/2083_26.jpg

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Don't become trapped between the doors!

The big 'fear' with platform doors is of becoming trapped between the two sets of closing doors as a train prepares to leave a station.

This almost happened here - fortunately they re-opened and the somewhat alarmed man was able to scramble to safety.

Video-still from the former Maglev at Birmingham (England)

http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/Video/Trapped_in_doors.jpg

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Platform doors help protect against Human Stupidity.

Incredible though this may seem there is a person sitting on the platform edge with their legs dangling over the tracks. Human stupidity is sadly a serious problem; too frequently people doing this lose their legs (or even their life) when a fast travelling train approaches and they fail to get out of the way in time. Sometimes train drivers are also so traumatised that they are unable to continue driving trains.

This example comes from Amsterdam, Holland but it happens here in Britain too.
http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/PhotoCD/PCD15_76.jpg

Platform doors help protect against Human Stupidity.

Incredible though this may seem there is a person sitting on the platform edge with their legs dangling over the tracks. Human stupidity is sadly a serious problem; too frequently people doing this lose their legs (or even their life) when a fast travelling train approaches and they fail to get out of the way in time. Sometimes train drivers are also so traumatised that they are unable to continue driving trains.

This example comes from Amsterdam, Holland but it happens here in Britain too.


Another think I have seen quite alot is people standing in front of the yellow line (we don't have PSD's) and because most stations are still low-level, people have had their legs completely destroyed by a train speeding through the station,

San Francisco Int'l Airport has 'em on the peoplemover.
SF BART is supposed to get 'em within the next 10 years.

Hong Kong: Built during construction: Tung Chung Line (Except Sunny Bay Station which is using Automatic Platform Gates. It is also used in Disneyland Resort Station), Airport Express and Tseung Kwan O Line (Except Quarry Bay Station where it was originally for Kwan Tong Line and the PSDs were not completed until this year)

All the existing underground stations built before 1990s would install PSDs by next year. The MTRC is planning to build the Automatic Platform Gates to all surface and above surface stations built before 1990s.

Guangzhou: All Line 2 (Soon with Line 3) Stations have PSDs. Line 1 Stations would build the PSDs between 2005 to 2008, the first existing station to build PSDs is Huangsha.

In Japan

As far as I know
subways
(Tokyo)
Nanboku Line
Mita Line
Marunouchi Line
Chiyoda Line
(Kyoto)
Tozai Line
(Fukuoka)
Nanakuma Line

Monorails
(Tokyo)
Tama Monorail
Haneda Monorail
Disney Monorail

private railways
(Tokyo)
Tokyu Ikegami Line
Tokyu Meguro Line
Tokyu Toyoko Line
Tsukuba Express Line
(Nagoya)
Tobu Kyuryo Line

Skytrains
(Tokyo)
Yurikamome Line
(Chiba)
Pech Line
(Yokohama)
SEaside Line
(Nagoya)
Chikyuhaku Line
(Osaka)
New Tram Line
(Kobe)
Port Line
Rokko Line

and most of Shinkansen stations
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Oji_Kamiya-eki-Nanboku-Line.jpg

TORINO. today the first automatic metro line in italy (VAL system) has been launched :runaway:

http://www.metrotorino.it/images/gallery/alte/VJ0E4228.jpg

http://www.metrotorino.it/images/gallery/alte/VJ0E4192.jpg

http://blogosfere.blogs.com/./photos/uncategorized/metro00.jpg

The Tampa Internation Airport Trams have them leading to each Terminal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/I-275/TampaInternationalAirport2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/I-275/tia4.jpg

Platform barriers are more impressive for heavy underground rail. There are so many doors on each train, whereas on VALs and other similar systems there are only 2-4 cars with 2 doors on each car.

For example, each platform in Hong Kong has 5 doors per side per car, 8 cars per train for the MTR. That's 40 x 2 = 80 doors for a single bi-direction platform.

KCR East Rail has 12 cars, one of which is a special car with only two doors.

The PSDs have only been installed in 12 stations of Taipei MRT Mujha (Muzha) Line since the begining.

Far view of PSD in Jhongshan (Zhongshan) Jr. Hi. Sch. Station --

http://i1.tinypic.com/n53dr7.jpg

However, in the future, PSDs will be installed extensively in newly built stations of Taipei MRT (excl. 6 stations of Tucheng Line) & Kaohsiung MRT.

Kuala lumpur
Express Rail Link (ERL), KL-KLIA

http://img137.echo.cx/img137/507/kliakl1214cp.jpg http://img139.echo.cx/img139/5997/kliakl1414ol.jpg http://img137.echo.cx/img137/4695/kliakl1519iu.jpg

http://www.ktmrailwayfan.com/pics/data/media/84/IMAGE012_2.JPG

Aero train, KLIA

http://img202.exs.cx/img202/5497/kualalump6qj.jpg

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8127/5242550uw.jpg

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2173/573266ey.jpg

http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/808/39626025177ac.jpg

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2493/4756593jh.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/468/535476bw.jpg

http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/klia/Aerotrain/IMG_3376sm.JPG

http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/klia/Aerotrain/IMG_1018sm.JPG

http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/klia/Aerotrain/IMG_9573sm.JPG

http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/klia/Aerotrain/IMG_1006sm.JPG

RAPID KL (Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras)

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7416/9797dscn4892we.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7038/dscn4406bd.jpg

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1934/dscn47159vu.jpg

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5514/dscn47137ki.jpg

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/9334/dscn47107bc.jpg

London:

http://static.flickr.com/9/13269908_e5a0a4b8bb_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/24/54870516_0a733a31c2_b.jpg

Se9 - that last pic is one of the best pics ever of london metro!!!

HK!

Sourse:pBase
http://www.ushb.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c287/kenlau13/5dac05eb.jpg
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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c287/kenlau13/MTR-LokFu1.jpg

Barcelona:
-In one station of line 6 and line 7

Provença

And only have screen doors one platform, direction Reina Elisenda/Av.Tibidabo/Sabadell/Terrassa, and only in the part from the transfer to the subway.

^^But being installed in line 11 now!^^
;)

No gates in Vancouver but these yellow warning strips were installed after someone fell into the tracks and was killed. May have been a blind person. I can't remember. Can't say I like the idea of them because I wouldn't be able to get shots like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/nighthawk07/Vancouver/VancityFog012.jpg

[QUOTE=C|2azyCanuck]No gates in Vancouver but these yellow warning strips were installed after someone fell into the tracks and was killed. May have been a blind person. I can't remember. Can't say I like the idea of them because I wouldn't be able to get shots like this:
QUOTE]

i don't think they ever will, because vancouver have 2 different types of trains with different door spots.

No gates in Vancouver but these yellow warning strips were installed after someone fell into the tracks and was killed. May have been a blind person. I can't remember. Can't say I like the idea of them because I wouldn't be able to get shots like this:


i don't think they ever will, because vancouver have 2 different types of trains with different door spots.

Well...once all the MarkI trains are phased out and replaced with the MarkIIs they could. The rotem trains that will be serving the Canada line will not share any track with Vancouver's existing lines.