Public transport [Archive]

Kommandant Mark

June 29th, 2005, 01:21 AM

City of Novi Sad to recieve twenty-five low floor buses from "Neobus" (another domestic company) Last bus to be delivered by mid-August this year

U AD „NEOBUS”
Radi se nadogradnja šasija za gradske autobuse

Krajem maja, AD „Neobus“ isporučiće prvi od 25 autobusa koliko je na tenderu dobilo da nadogradi na šasijama proizvođača „Volvo“ za potrebe Gradskog saobraćajnog preduzeća „Novi Sad“, za šta je novac izdvojen iz budžeta grada. Direktor preduzeća Borko Lukač kaže da će poslednji autobus biti završen do prve polovine avgusta, a da će do tada firma isporučivati neprekidno autobuse kako ih završi.

http://www.dnevnik.co.yu/arhiva/12-05-2005/akt/10-9.jpg

- Najteži deo posla je okončan, jer je urađena tehnička dokumetacija, nabavljeni rezervni delovi, oprema i materijal. Sada može da krene serijska proizvodnja, pošto su u međuvremenu na prvom autobusu isprobani i usaglašeni svi poslovi, pa će, kako posao bude odmicao, biti potrebno dan- dva za nadogradnju - napominje Lukač i navodi kako je ovaj posao za gradskog prevoznika dobra preporuka za „Neobus“, jer je Gradsko saobraćajno preduzeće „Novi Sad“ raspisalo tender za izradu 20 solo i 20 zglobnih autobusa.
- Autobusi na šasijama „Volvoa“ biće niskopodni, neće imati stepenice, kao što većina autobusa u gradskom prevozu sada ima. U zadnjem delu biće malo povišeni zbog motora i imaće plitko tapacirana sedišta. Predviđa se od 22 do 28 sedišta - precizira Lukač.
Napominje da je većina delova za autobuse iz uvoza, pošto naručilac posla zahteva visoke standarde i garanciju od šest do 12 godina. Zbog toga su sve delove koji su kvalitetniji od domaćeg kupili na stranom tržištu.
Uz ovaj posao, „Neobus“ završava jedan autobus za Republiku Srpsku, a treba da radi još nekoliko za domaće kupce iz Bora i Kostolca.
- Na tenderu smo dobili posao za reparaciju sedam autobusa za prevoznika iz Pančeva. U toku su pregovori i za izradu dva mini busa za JP „Vrbas“ u Vrbasu - kaže Lukač.
„Neobus“ je privatizovan u oktobru prošle godine, kada je na aukciji firmu za oko 58 miliona dinara kupio biznisnem iz Saudijske Arabije Alaa Mahgraba Mohamed Ali, u čijem je voznom parku dve hiljade autobusa.

DocentX

June 29th, 2005, 01:24 AM

New trains for planed SKM line (fast Warsaw metropolitan train line) under construction.

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/2781/z2781290G.jpg
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/news05/img/0506_132-skm-waw01.jpg
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/news05/img/0506_132-skm-waw02.jpg

Trains are constructed by the PESA company (Polish company from Bydgoszcz).

this is how they should look like after const:

http://www.skm.warszawa.pl/index_pliki/image3171.jpg

here You have map, on which You can see how the first SKM line will look like:

map by @Petr:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/stpiotr/warsaw-map2.gif

DocentX

June 29th, 2005, 01:29 AM

Yep:yes:
Btw, does Warsaw have these private bus operators or is that only Belgrade's problem?
(ok, some companies are good and operated modern buses, but most...lol)

he, he :)
I think I know what You are talking about - I mean public transport in Warsaw is owned by the city, however there are many private bus routes, which are connecting Warsaw with some smaller places and towns outside the city.

And Yes - most of the buses owned by those private operators does not look very modern ;)

Kommandant Mark

June 29th, 2005, 01:39 AM

Belgrade's new Belkommunmas trolley's, made in Belarus. Serving well:yes:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_1.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_2.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_3.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_4.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_5.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_6.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_7.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_8.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/yu/trolleybus/Belgrade_Belkommunmas333_9.jpg

DocentX

June 29th, 2005, 01:41 AM

Warsaw ordered 80 new 'long buses' from Polish company 'Solaris'.

First of them should appear in the city later this year.

They will look the same, like the ones, which were bought by Berlin :

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/2790/z2790049G.jpg

Kommandant Mark

June 29th, 2005, 01:50 AM

New low-floor tram built by Croatia consortium of Rade Koncar, Gredelj and Djuro Djakovic companies. Supposed to enter service later this year. Seventy have been bought by City of Zagreb, but its just an initial contract. In the end, three times as much may operate on streets of Zagreb.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2200_5_marko_kacic.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2200_6_marko_kacic.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2200_7_marko_kacic.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m10_TB.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m11_TB.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m13_TB.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m1_TB.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m2_TB.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m5_TB.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m6_TB.jpg

DocentX

June 29th, 2005, 01:50 AM

Warsaw metro announced today, that the last stations of the first line should be ready by the end of 2007.

In 2008 the const of the second line will start and by the end of 2011 first 7 stations (in the middle) of the line will be ready :cheers:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/2791/m2791847.jpg

DocentX

June 29th, 2005, 02:02 AM

photos of new Warsaw WKD (light railway) train:

http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/old/duze/02/70363-1.jpg
http://www.mi.gov.pl/pliki/aktualnosci_sg/1481/wkd.jpg

DocentX

June 29th, 2005, 11:59 AM

Warsaw

since May, we have new tourist atraction in Warsaw- horse driven tram:

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/omnibus/omnibus1.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/omnibus/omnibus2.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/omnibus/omnibus3.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/omnibus/omnibus4.jpg

Tourist tram line T will be operating during the summer weekends:

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/n/CIMG3706.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/n/CIMG3697.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/lw/CIMG3737.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/lw/CIMG3746.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/k/CIMG3778.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/k/CIMG3781.jpg

'water tram' :

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/wodny/DSCN1373.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/wodny/DSCN1345.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/wodny/DSCN1454.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/wodny/DSCN1458.jpg

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/warszawa_050621/warszawa_a_2-1.F.jpg

Petr

June 29th, 2005, 01:11 PM

Tram from Zagreb looks impressive! :eek:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m2_TB.jpg

mic of Orion

June 29th, 2005, 01:44 PM

Tram from Zagreb looks impressive! :eek:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m2_TB.jpg

and they are, they have quite a few gadgets inside and out, you'd think it is gone all sci-fi, lol, and it is first tram to actually have working air-conditioning inside, tram has interior and exterior camera system so driver can ce situation all over the place, back of the tram and sides which is crucial for such a large tram, it is 32m long, 2.3m wide, and can carry 200 passengers....

Tram is offered on various gage systems and few foreign customers have already asked for specs and are interested for the tram, city of Sofia has already showed interest.

I think it would be great if Wroclaw or Warsaw get it to, they are quite cheep , only 2.5 million CIF and manufacture can deliver up to 36 trams per year.

I think Gdansk could also benefit from this trams..

delfin_pl

June 29th, 2005, 01:53 PM

^^ I agree its gorgeus, why buying expensive bombardier when you can have such a great tram for so little

mic of Orion

June 29th, 2005, 02:13 PM

^^ I agree its gorgeus, why buying expensive bombardier when you can have such a great tram for so little

forgot to mention Sofia is interested for 3 section version as this trams are for to long for Sofia's streets and they want something up to 25m length. Zagreb has always had long trams, old ones where about 40m long - 3 car trams built by Duro Dakovic factory in Croatia way back in 60's, but this are primarily built by Knocar although Duro Djakovic is responsible for boogies. Gradelj another constrictor is responsible for exterior and final assembly rest of it is done by Koncar industries....

And for comparison, Bombardier trams Krakow got (50) cost over 3.5 million per tram. OK all of it financed by EU structural founds but still, way to much, for similar tram from Skoda you'd need to cuff up 3.3 million and for Simmens trams (which have hip of technical problems) you'd need to put aside no less than 4million US$. for French Astolm and Italian trams slightly less, only 3.75 million but they look nice and similar in design features to Cro-Tram..

Older Koncar Trams - entered service 1998 - 2000, only 17 entered service but they also look nice
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2100/ZET_2116.jpg

this are very old trams which new trams are replacing, as you can ce it is fine time for change, lol.... :) :cheers:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/200/zg_tram_200_01.jpg

Koniaczeq

June 29th, 2005, 02:21 PM

Those trams from Croatia are awesome !!! Let make a deal :>, we will buy your trams and you our Solaris buses :>

lindenthaler

June 29th, 2005, 02:31 PM

Here are images of new experimental version of Ikarbus which is partly built with Volvo chasis. Bus is currently on extensive test on line "26" Dorcol-Medakovic III. In few weeks i am in BGD so i will catch more images :)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/ppstevan/Diverse/ibus/02.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/ppstevan/Diverse/ibus/01.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/ppstevan/Diverse/ibus/04.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/ppstevan/Diverse/ibus/03.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/ppstevan/Diverse/ibus/05.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/ppstevan/Diverse/ibus/06.jpg

mic of Orion

June 29th, 2005, 02:31 PM

Those trams from Croatia are awesome !!! Let make a deal :>, we will buy your trams and you our Solaris buses :>

lol, I'm sure something can be done, lol, city of Osijek, Split Rijeka and Zadar are all looking to replace there buses, for Zagreb it is to late they already did, with new Man and Mercedes buses... And if Solaris are cheaper than Mercedes and Man than I am sure they'll be more than happy, lol....

And Solaris look much better than Man and Mercedes anyways., lol....

DocentX

June 29th, 2005, 02:37 PM

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m2_TB.jpg

I would like to see something like this in Warsaw :cheers:

Here are the most popular trams, that we have now in Warsaw:

Tram 105N2k/2000 by 'Alstom Konstal' (company from Polish city of Chorzow):

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/105n2k2000/CIMG3900.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/105n2k2000/CIMG3908.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/105n2k2000/CIMG3906.jpg

Tram 116N by 'Alstom Konstal'

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/116n/CIMG3879.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/116n/CIMG3868.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/116n/CIMG3890.jpg

Tram 105N2 by 'Alstom Konstal'

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/105n2k/CIMG3920.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/105n2k/CIMG3921.jpg

Tram 13N by Konstal :

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/13n/CIMG3821.jpg
http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/13n/CIMG3828.jpg

mic of Orion

June 29th, 2005, 02:46 PM

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/2200/ZET_2201_Koncar_050427_m2_TB.jpg

I would like to see something like this in Warsaw :cheers:

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/116n/CIMG3868.jpg
Alstom-Konstal looks nice, much beter than rest of the trams, but I do agree you could do with bit of change, lol,,,,

Koniaczeq

June 29th, 2005, 03:00 PM

http://tramwaje-warszawskie.pol.pl/galeria/images/116n/CIMG3868.jpg
Alstom-Konstal looks nice, much beter than rest of the trams, but I do agree you could do with bit of change, lol,,,,

Dont be afraid to say that it looks ugly :D

mic of Orion

June 29th, 2005, 03:26 PM

Dont be afraid to say that it looks ugly :D

lol :hilarious :hilarious

they do actually look nice, well not most beautiful but they are not that bad looking, I actually like them, but you could do with some change, lol, say 50 Cro-trams just to spicy things up, lol....

BTW are this 100% low floor as from some pics I can't make it out!?
I think Krakow did great job with its Bombardier deal got 50 trams for free basically, I am sure if Warsaw applied similar ingenuity they might get 50 or 100 Cro-Trams if they win the competition for new Warsaw Trams... Or Gdansk or any city....

Of course if price is right, think if Alstom-Konsol can be cheaper than sure why not..... :cheers:

Prase1

July 9th, 2005, 05:50 AM

New trams for Prague
Skoda Transportation from Pilsen is developing new tram for Prague.
At the end of this year there should be two test trams on the Prague's streets. Lenght: 31m Capacity: 279

Introduction of new tram
http://www.ospea.cz/images/tram_pro_prahu/5.jpghttp://www.ospea.cz/images/tram_pro_prahu/7.jpg

http://www.ospea.cz/images/tram_pro_prahu/18.jpg

http://www.ospea.cz/images/tram_pro_prahu/19.jpg

http://www.ospea.cz/images/tram_pro_prahu/20.jpg
Not bad looking. What ya'll think? :cheers:

Petr

July 9th, 2005, 10:38 AM

mic of Orion

July 9th, 2005, 01:37 PM

Warsaw is interested in Cro-Trams, Warsaw city officials visited Cro-Tram factory and look to get Cro-Trams... for Warsaw. Price tag per tram if Warsaw get them will be in region of 3 million US$ (this include CIF price) the other cheapest contender would be Skoda Trams which would be in region of 3.35 million US$ per tram... Simmens Trams are in region 4.25 million US$, Bombardier trams are 4.1 million and French Alstom and Italian manufacturer AnsaldoBreda are also about 3.8 million US$ for there respective trams...

http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050706/tram-8.jpg

There is a big interest for Cro-Tram from many foreign clients, Warsaw, Memphis, Portland, Osijek, Belgrade, Sofia and Melbourne just to name few who expressed interest for Cro-Tram. If Ljubljana, Split and Rijeka built there planed tram systems than I guess trams will be success beyond wildest imaginations...

Tomesh

July 9th, 2005, 03:47 PM

Thats really good news the croatian trams really look great !

paku

July 9th, 2005, 06:50 PM

Helsinki trams
http://www.kaupunkiliikenne.net/9849110_500.jpg
these have been around for a few years already, extremely quiet, air conditioning, the works.

mic of Orion

July 9th, 2005, 07:44 PM

05T Tram 5-Section tram...
http://img207.echo.cx/img207/5893/05tplzen9fs.md.jpg

New 5 Section Tram from Skoda, Czech Manufacturer
Skoda has successfully bid and won contracts to respectfully deliver 20 trams to Portland, Oregon and 6 trams to Calgary in Canada. Average price Skoda bid for these 2 contactors was 16.2 million US$ in Calgary and 60 million US$ for Portland contract. Both Contracts are in process of being completed as Portland has already received half of its trams and Calgary is about to receive its first tram...

This was a program for 3-section articulated trams model 10T and average price tag for the tram as 2.75 million US$....

Suffice to say 5 section trams are lot more expensive average price being 3.35 millionUS$...

T10 Tram
http://img207.echo.cx/img207/3196/10t3ev.jpg

Kommandant Mark

July 9th, 2005, 10:46 PM

By the end of July/mid-August, Belgrade's public transport company is expected to recieve 10 new articulated trolley's from Belarus company "Belkommunmas", as well as 30 used trolley's from Greece, gift of the City of Athens. Also, 40 new buses from "Ikarbus" company and 20 from "Mercedes". All in all, great news :okay:

tasiemiec

July 10th, 2005, 09:48 PM

New trams in Katowice
http://tasiemiec.siec2000.pl/tr1.jpg

mic of Orion

July 14th, 2005, 02:41 AM

Great news for Zagreb today,
First Cro-Trams entered service and Warsaw expressed interest in procurement of this Cro-Tram NT2200 for its tram network.

If deal goes through this would be biggest order for new Croatian Tram valued at nearly 500 million US$ for 170-180 trams and first of this beauties can be excepted on streets of Warsaw sometimes in early 2007...

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/arno/ZET_2201_050713_b_TB.jpg
http://free-zg.t-com.hr/arno/DSC06380.jpg
Photos curtsey of Toma Bacic and Marko Zlatkic (Croatia)

Melbourne Australia and few other cities expressed interest for this tram, and most likely confirmed order from cities of Osijek for 32 trams and Rijeka which is building (plan to) completely new tram network after nearly 80 years last trams roamed streets of Rijeka. Rijeka would have requirement for 50-55 new trams...

Koniaczeq

July 20th, 2005, 07:48 PM

Tram network in Katowice conurbation

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9426/gopschem1ua.gif

paku

July 20th, 2005, 11:55 PM

VelesHomais

July 21st, 2005, 12:11 AM

Today was announced Japanese project in Ukraine. They will build a monorail from Boryspil ( It's an international airport in Kyiv's province ) to Kyiv-City.

It's one of the first results of a weeklong visit of President Yuschenko to Japan, where he is accompanies by the Emperor and Prime Ministers of Japan.

DocentX

August 25th, 2005, 01:45 AM

alepasztet

August 25th, 2005, 12:56 PM

Trains are constructed by the PESA company (Polish company from Bydgoszcz).

you sure? not ZNTK Nowy Sącz?

barnim

September 22nd, 2005, 02:29 AM

New trains and railbuses in Poland:

As far as I know, these railbuses have never been shown outside the polish forum, so it's high time someone did it. The number of them in Poland is rapidly increesing since our regional authorities are in charge of rail transport.

Manufacturer:PESA
SA103 - by the end of 2005 there will probably be about 15 of these
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8022/c5tk.jpg

SA106 - about 10
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6944/dscn08903vp.jpg

SA131 (the first will be delivered this autumn)
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/6217/856zm3jt.jpg

EN81 (an EMU) - there will be 4 of them by the end of this year.
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/6461/56pn.jpg

610M - one of 2 made for Ukraine last year
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/foto/040227/0402-20.jpg

Manufacturer: ZNTK Poznan

SA105 - 5 by now
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/diesel/dmu/SA105/213M_Regio-Tramp.jpg

SA108 - about 5 by now
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2817/sa108b5nw.jpg

Manufacturer: [/B]KOLZAM[/B]
SA107 - dont know how many
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1027/sa1070139rl.jpg

SA109 dont know how many
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/1023/0017ph.jpg

A new EMU for Lodz proposed by PESA
http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/6343/po12rn.jpg

barnim

September 22nd, 2005, 02:32 AM

A new tram for Elblag (Poland) will be made by PESA. The first of six trams will be delivered in 2006.
http://www.pesa.pl/upload/864_zd.jpg

DocentX

November 4th, 2005, 03:06 AM

Warsaw wants to buy new (15) trams.

it will be one of these :

1) Siemens

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/2999/z2999818G.jpg

2) PESA (Polish company from Bydgoszcz) :

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/2999/z2999810G.jpg

3) Cegielski (Polish company from Poznan) :

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/2999/z2999809G.jpg

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SKM line (fast Warsaw metropolitan train line)

photo by @filoss :

http://x11.putfile.com/11/30601375815.jpg

DocentX

November 4th, 2005, 02:42 PM

Krakow public transport news :

232 Million PLN For Tram Network in Krakow

Malopolska Region voivode together with Krakow Urban Transportation Company (MPK Krakow) signed a deal on closing the first level of integrated transport system in Cracow. The estimated cost of reaches 60 million EUR (232 million PLN). Almost half of this sum will come from EU funding (Integrated Operational Program for Regional Development - ZPORR). The remaining part will be financed by MPK from company's budget and loans.

Investments include extension of Cracow Rapid Tram line, road-rail integration projects, new bus station and purchase of 24 new low-floor trams (43 million EUR). The project is scheduled to be finished by 2008 - otherwise EU will not be able to contribute any financial resources. The tramline is to be extended by 2006 and new trams will become reality in 2007.

http://www.railway-market.pl/news05/0510_008.htm

DocentX

November 26th, 2005, 05:08 PM

mirza-sm

November 26th, 2005, 05:36 PM

^^ lol wow cool :uh:

DocentX

January 5th, 2006, 05:37 PM

new baby of Polish PESA manufacturer

next year 11 trains of such type will start to operate on Lodz-Warsaw route

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/4/3097/z3097444G.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/3097/z3097592G.jpg
http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1363_zd.jpg
http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1366_zd.jpg

:cheers:

mic of Orion

January 6th, 2006, 01:07 AM

Look at this !!!!

New 'buses' in Koszalin (city in the north of Poland) :

http://ww2.tvp.pl/tvppl/images/2005/11/22/319247/img500.jpg

this buses will probably start to operate next year (they will run through the city lake)

this is ugliest bus ever, lol, OK, I know it is not April 1st (April's Fools), but this must be one of the early jokes, lol...

Call it a Duck, lol... I don't think this has a chance...

mic of Orion

January 6th, 2006, 01:08 AM

Adiks

January 8th, 2006, 02:05 PM

this is ugliest bus ever, lol, OK, I know it is not April 1st (April's Fools), but this must be one of the early jokes, lol...

Call it a Duck, lol... I don't think this has a chance...

It's not just a bus :) It will run through the water so that's the way it looks "weird" but not ugly :D

PyRoMaNiAc

January 8th, 2006, 04:17 PM

this is ugliest bus ever, lol, OK, I know it is not April 1st (April's Fools), but this must be one of the early jokes, lol...

Call it a Duck, lol... I don't think this has a chance...
We have some of those in Toronto. They're always packed full of customers and it seems like a lot of fun. It's a great idea in my opinion.

mirza-sm

January 9th, 2006, 02:18 AM

ohhhhh ya now i remember Vancouver has those too :D theyre called SeaBus :D they take over where SkyTrain ends ;)

mic of Orion

January 9th, 2006, 02:35 AM

It's not just a bus :) It will run through the water so that's the way it looks "weird" but not ugly :D

lol, I see, :)
it still looks ugly, :D

sort of touristy thing...

DocentX

January 9th, 2006, 11:37 PM

a few more photos of Warsaw SKM :

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/electric/emu/14WE/14WE-02_31-10-05.jpg
http://images1.fotosik.pl/9/1d56hnuyt2cvpkjy.jpg
http://images1.fotosik.pl/9/5or5a543d9kydax3.jpg

By the end of 2006 Wroclaw will receive 16 new Skoda trams :

http://www.tenzor.cz/tramvaje/14t/14tJTp.jpg
http://www.tenzor.cz/tramvaje/14t/14t_9p.jpg

BGD

January 10th, 2006, 11:03 AM

New trams in Katowice
http://tasiemiec.siec2000.pl/tr1.jpg
I like this one. It would be good for Belgrade.

barnim

April 4th, 2006, 10:15 PM

New EMU for Lodz region. This trainset was presented by PESA on monday.
http://stud.pam.szczecin.pl/~wizard/data/media/129/IMG_3554a.jpg

Some more pics from PESA's homepage.

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1546_zd.JPG

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1551_zd.JPG

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1550_zd.JPG

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1552_zd.JPG

wholagun

April 4th, 2006, 10:37 PM

what does EMU stand for?

barnim

April 4th, 2006, 10:49 PM

Electric Motor Unit

Hollandski_KGB

April 4th, 2006, 11:47 PM

that new EMU trainset looks very modern and nice.

Pavlo

April 4th, 2006, 11:50 PM

Here's a nice display of new trains all made in Ukraine (except PESA, that's Poland)

Rail Bus 620M-001

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/620M/IMG_1283.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/620M/IMG_1741.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/620M/IMG_1743.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/620M/IMG_1637.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/620M/IMG_1520.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/620M/IMG_1669.jpg

Diesel-Train ДЕЛ02-002

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DEL02/IMG_1528.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DEL02/IMG_1777.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DEL02/IMG_1643.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DEL02/IMG_1651.jpg

Passanger Freighter ТЕП150-001

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/TEP150/IMG_1724.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/TEP150/IMG_1755.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/TEP150/IMG_1492.jpg

Freighter ДЕ1-035

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DE1/IMG_1716.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DE1/IMG_1714.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DE1/IMG_1758.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DE1/IMG_1423.jpg

Freighter 2ЕЛ5-001

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/2EL5/IMG_1337.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/2EL5/IMG_1331.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/2EL5/IMG_1447.jpg

Freigh-Passanger Train ДС3-004

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DS3/IMG_1749.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/DS3/IMG_1690.jpg

Electrotrain ЕПЛ9т-014

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/EPL9t/IMG_1234.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/EPL9t/IMG_1653.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/EPL9t/IMG_1655.JPG

Car 61-779 ( Україна -1 )

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-779/IMG_1635.jpg

Car 61-788 ( Україна -2 )

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1547.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1671.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1675.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1676.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1678.jpg

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1736.jpg

As presented on 3.14.06 in Kyiv.

Huge thanks to ivdenis (railphotos) (http://railphotos.kiev.ua/)

Side note, top priority for Ukraine's railroads at the moment is connecting major cities with fast trains (up to 180 km/s). Already about 20 such routes exist. New routes emerging almost every month. :)

Hollandski_KGB

April 4th, 2006, 11:52 PM

^I like em all.

Pavlo

April 4th, 2006, 11:56 PM

Yeah I really like this car the best:

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1676.jpg

I would love to go across the country in one...

Hollandski_KGB

April 4th, 2006, 11:58 PM

Yeah I really like this car the best:

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/61-788/IMG_1676.jpg

I would love to go across the country in one...
I suppose this is the business class ?

Pavlo

April 4th, 2006, 11:59 PM

I am not sure...

Jacek

April 5th, 2006, 08:51 AM

New trainsets from PESA (Bydgoszcz, Poland) to connect Lodz with adjacent smaller towns:

http://stud.pam.szczecin.pl/~wizard/data/media/129/IMG_3554a.jpg

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1546_zd.JPG

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1551_zd.JPG

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1552_zd.JPG

New trainsets from PESA for Lodz-Warszawa line (11 trains) soon to be delivered.

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1363_zd.jpg

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1366_zd.jpg

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1366_zd.jpg

Also a purchase of 14 trainsets for Koleje Mazowieckie (Mazovian Railways) for Warsaw suburbs will be finalised in coming weeks. They will be either from Bombardier or Stadler.

Bombardier in Koleje Mazowieckie colors:

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5521/2etalentaustrialr3qg.jpg

Stadler (FLIRT type) also in Koleje Mazowieckie colors:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9261/flirtbussnang040620040nk8ha.jpg

5 trainsets for SKM (Fast Local Warsaw Railway) have been delivered by Mewag company (Nowy Sacz, Poland).

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5011/pict60171wk.jpg

http://republika.pl/letki_skm/photos/photo15.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/3103/z3103858G.jpg

http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/2122/image0014ga.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/5756/image0092hd.jpg

http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/7227/skm27je.jpg

http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/1109/skm49xt.jpg

Vertigo

April 8th, 2006, 12:53 AM

Wow, PESA is building some interesting trains. If they continue this could become an interesting competitor to Bombardier, Alstom, Stadler, etc.. in the regional and (sub)urban railway market. Their trains look really nice. I only think that the interiors don't look very comfortable (but that's pretty common of course for regional trains).

Jacek

April 8th, 2006, 04:33 AM

Yeah we have been saying the same thing on the Polish forum. Seats dont look to comfortable for short haul trips but that seems to be the standard and it's what was requested from the client. Long haul trains (Warsaw-Lodz) will have better more comfortable seating.

As far as being a competitor it seems PESA is targeting the Polish market right now as more regions are shutting down expensive trains and replacing them with cheaper to operate railbuses. So far the only international order was from Ukraine and this trainset was delievered to them:

http://railphotos.kiev.ua/Exhibition_14_03_2006/620M/IMG_1637.jpg

As far as their ED74 trainset I showed as first in my thread I agree - the design is kick ass and beats anything I have seen from their foreign competitors.

The company has designed some other cool railbuses:

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/930_zd.jpg

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1493_zd.jpg

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/938_zd.jpg

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/989_zd.jpg

New low floor trams for 2 Polish cities will soon be delivered from them as well:

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/864_zd.jpg

http://www.pesa.pl/upload/1514_zd.jpg

mic of Orion

April 8th, 2006, 01:57 PM

^^ very nice

Ljubljana City

April 9th, 2006, 10:04 AM

Funicular/lift being built in Ljubljana:

From the city to the city castle.

Length: 118 m
Height: 70 m
Max. speed: 3 m/s (1 minute between stations)

Capacity of the cabin: max. 33 passengers or 500 people per hour

It will be finished till June.

http://www.mladina.si/tednik/200508/clanek/slo--prestolnica-ursa_matos/img/tirna-mv-018_display.jpg

http://www.mladina.si/tednik/200508/clanek/slo--prestolnica-ursa_matos/img/tirna-mv-029_display.jpg

http://www.festival-lj.si/img/content_image/131.jpg

http://www.mladina.si/tednik/200508/clanek/slo--prestolnica-ursa_matos/img/tirna-mv-108_display.jpg

Construction site 2.4.2006:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4314/gradnjavzpenjace22ap.jpg

Jacek

April 20th, 2006, 09:27 AM

Bombardier won the tender for supplying 14 trainsets to Mazovia/Silesia (Talent).

New trainset from Newag (Nowy Sacz, Poland) will start operating on "Pope John Paul II trail" from Krakow to Wadowice (Pope's birthplace). It will be equipped with plasma screens to show the life of Pope for people travelling on the train. Livery will be in Holly Sea colors.

http://70.85.129.219/kolej/newsy/img/06041904_pociagpapieski.jpg

J@NeKyYz

April 20th, 2006, 05:18 PM

Cool!!! I think Ill take this when I go to Poland...where does it go from....The main train station?

wholagun

April 20th, 2006, 06:26 PM

they'll show the life of the pope on the TV screens - man they're going way too far with the pope mania.

Koniaczeq

April 20th, 2006, 06:28 PM

Papa Train LOL !

Jacek

April 20th, 2006, 06:52 PM

they'll show the life of the pope on the TV screens - man they're going way too far with the pope mania.

Why ? Large amount of people travelling to Wadowice from Krakow are pilgrims and people interested in the life of Pope John Paul II. They come from all over the world. So just like any responsible local municipality Wadowice wants to cater to tourists and provide them with services that people would find interesting. It increases the town's cultural offering and makes it more accessible.

I see nothing overboard with this initiative. If anything it is a sign of progress, tourist are no longer treated as a necessary evil but as potential revenue generating factor.

Pavlo

April 20th, 2006, 07:03 PM

Jacek what's the cost for these:

http://stud.pam.szczecin.pl/~wizard/data/media/129/IMG_3554a.jpg

Jacek

April 21st, 2006, 07:57 PM

I believe it's around 4million Euro.

http://www.medcom.com.pl/galeria/20060408_MEDCOM_ED74_2.jpg

Mi1os

April 24th, 2006, 05:47 AM

I rode the Bombardier's Talent car last weekend in Ottawa, where they work the "O-Train" line (two trainsets on a five station line) ... they were very comfortable & modern:okay:

By the way, any Ukrainians here can tell me more about this "industrial association"?
What do they produce?

Fabrika Vagona Kraljevo” sale contract signed
The Serbian Privatisation Agency has stated that its representatives signed a sale contract with representatives of the sole bidder in the tender, the Industrial Association of Donbas based in Donetsk, Ukraine. The contract concerns the sale of 70.95% of the capital of the holding company “Fabrika Vagona Kraljevo”.

The purchase price was €200,000, with an investment programme worth €6.454 million; apart from the minimum obligation from the company’s social welfare programme, the buyer also unconditionally accepted an array of additional obligations regarding the social programme.

At the tender for “Fabrika Vagona Kraljevo”, announced on March 31 in 2005, the sole bid was submitted by the Industrial Association of Donbas, based in Donetsk, Ukraine.

At the commission’s second meeting, held on November 4 in 2005, a decision was passed on beginning negotiations with the sole bidder, and the Serbian Ministry of Economy passed a Solution on November 11 in 2005 on forming a three-member commission for negotiations.

The commission for negotiations passed a decision on concluding the sale contract of the capital of the holding company “Fabrika Vagona Kraljevo” after six sessions.

At the third session of the tender commission, held on March 27 in 2006, the results of the negotiations were accepted and a unanimous decision was made to conclude a contract for the sale of the capital of the company “Fabrika Vagona Kraljevo” with the sole bidder the Industrial Association of Donbas, reads the statement.

Jacek

April 26th, 2006, 07:17 PM

Modernized old EN57 suburban trains looking like new :) First showing in Katowice.

Modernization programme will include a total refurbishment of 75 trainsets and 81 additional carriages.

OLD EN57 suburban train:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/electric/emu/EN57/blue-yellow/Gdansk/EN57-732_2006_04_20_01.jpg

NEW after modernization:

http://www.xthost.info/jackowaty/slaskibombardier0036%20copy.jpg

http://www.xthost.info/jackowaty/slaskibombardier0067%20copy.jpg

http://www.xthost.info/jackowaty/slaskibombardier0069%20copy.jpg

http://www.xthost.info/jackowaty/slaskibombardier0063%20copy.jpg

http://www.xthost.info/jackowaty/slaskibombardier0051%20copy.jpg

http://www.xthost.info/jackowaty/slaskibombardier0044%20copy.jpg

edolen1

April 26th, 2006, 08:24 PM

That's a modernization? Wow!

zivan56

April 27th, 2006, 07:56 AM

That's a modernization? Wow!

No kidding. I would have thought it was brand new. What is left of the old train? Just the motors/wheels/frame?

Jacek

April 27th, 2006, 02:53 PM

I don't know what is left but here is what the process looks like from old to new.

http://www.pr.pkp.pl/img_in/GALERIA/duze/pezt3.jpg

Jacek

May 28th, 2006, 09:54 PM

Pope's train to Wadowice is now operating.

http://www.klobo.2-0.pl/news/news227.jpg

http://www.klobo.2-0.pl/news/news236.jpg

http://www.pociag-papieski.pl/

Pavlo

May 29th, 2006, 08:20 PM

New Kyiv trolleybuses begun functioning on Thursday, May 24th:

http://tram.mashke.org/files/anton/kiev/trollejbus/depo%202/2904/2904-5.jpg

http://tram.mashke.org/files/anton/kiev/trollejbus/depo%202/2904/2904-2.jpg

Made by LAZ in Lviv (http://www.laz.ua/)

Islom

May 30th, 2006, 02:16 AM

^
Niceeee!!!
I hope Belgrade buys those trolleys next:yes:
The last purchase was of 20-40 trolley's made by Belarus's "Belkommunmas".

But they will need to be articulated. Solo trolley's are too small for Belgrade.

butch83

January 2nd, 2007, 02:29 PM

Will all EN57s be modernized?

nebunul

January 5th, 2007, 12:27 AM

Public Transport Bucharest, Romania

Underground Map
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7089/500pxbucharestmetromap2kh7.png (http://imageshack.us)

Underground Train
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5425/a21dm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bus - 500 Mercedes Citaro bought in 2005 (extra 400 to be bougt in 2007)
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9528/citos5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tram
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7716/800pxbucharestv2attram1jr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

100 new trams (2,3 mil euro/each) to be bought in spring 2007 (bid has taken place already)
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4962/citadismontpellier3x01ea9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7310/b12siemensmelbourne1po0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nebunul

January 10th, 2007, 06:03 PM

Project for new subway Bucharest North Railway Station - Baneasa (Aurel Vlaicu) and Otopeni (Henri Coanda ) Airports ... the brown one on the attached picture ...decision to be made by end of March and works should start this year

14 km and 14 stops ... to be financed by Japan Bank...approx 900mil euro

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8553/bucharestprojmap1js4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Japan might finance construction of subway line to Otopeni airport
Tarom decided in mid-October 2006 to half ticket fees for domestic routes, resulting in sales’ surge by 25 pc. The state owned airline company intends to keep the current pricing policy in the months to come.
published in issue 3847 page 8 at 2007-01-10
BUCHAREST – With the development of air traffic in Romania a problem still remains with respect to the difficult access to the largest airport in Romania. Authorities plan for some time now to build a new subway line to link Bucharest with Otopeni-based Henri Coanda International airport. As always, the main problem rest in the finanicng of the project, but yesterday minister delegate for Trade, Iuliu Winkler told the Japanese government might credit Bucharest City Hall for implementing the project. A decision in this respect is expected at end-March, Winkler added, quoted by Mediafax.

According to the already completed feasibility study of the EUR 900 M worth project, the new 14 kilometres subway line will link Capital’s main railway station with country’s largest airport. Bucharest Mayor, Adriean Videanu declared last summer the credit would be granted by the Japanese state in JPY at an annual interest rate of 0.75 per cent for 40 years, with a 10 years grace period to be also allowed.

Tarom posts increased revenues from domestic flights

State owned airline company Tarom starts collecting the benefits of having reduced in mid-October last year ticket prices for domestic flights by 50 per cent. According to company’s representatives, quoted by “Ziarul Financiar”, revenues from operations on the local market advanced by 25 per cent, with an average of over 70 per cent of airline’s domestic flights seats being occupied. Only in November 2006 the number of passengers on domestic flights went up by 20 per cent as against the previous month. The company also launched in December a new offer for domestic flights with a view to encouraging Romanians to shift from travelling by train to air traffic. Prices offered by Tarom are quite similar with those of a first class railway ticket, company’s representatives added. According to the sources, Tarom intends to keep the current pricing policy in the months to come. This strategy could be viewed as a response to the open sky agreement within the European Union air space, respectively allowing any foreign airline to operate domestic flights.

Tarom currently operates with 18 aircrafts on 31 routes abroad and the remaining two of four contracted Airbus 318-111s to be delivered are due to enter company’s fleet this year. Moreover, according to the secretary of state with the Ministry of Transports, Constructions and Tourism, Alexandros Galiatatos, Tarom could reintroduce the two Airbus A310 on new routes towards the Middle East, China or Central Asia as of October 2007.

EC imposed pollution tax to surge intra-community ticket prices by up to eur 9

Airlines will most definitely surge flight prices as of 2011 with an additional impact on passengers and air transportation’s worldwide attractively. The European Commission (EC) recently agreed to introduce a new tax on the airlines flying within the European air space. Starting 2011 companies will have to purchase polluting emissions permits for domestic flights while as of 2012 the permits will affect all international flights. According to the EC, the ticket fee will go up as a result by EUR 1.8-9 for flights within the EU and EUR 8-40 for routes towards the United States of America. EC claims the measure is included in EU’s strategy for fighting against climate changes. Over the last 17 years emissions of international flights within the European air space almost doubled.

http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=business&id=20070110-508881

butch83

January 10th, 2007, 09:20 PM

Pavlo

January 10th, 2007, 10:04 PM

Let me guess who owes LAZ...
Mercedes
isnt it?

Uh...no? It's Ukrainian owned.

Marek.kvackaj

January 10th, 2007, 11:18 PM

I dont care who own companies if the come to my country and set company with high tech products and bring here knowledge and offcourse employ people...

butch83

January 11th, 2007, 02:09 PM

I dont care who own companies if the come to my country and set company with high tech products and bring here knowledge and offcourse employ people...

I didnt say it is a bad thing or smth, but i checked LAZ's site and the buses looks so similiar to mercedes ones that made me think that mercedes is some sort of investor for'em

sun&sun

January 11th, 2007, 03:51 PM

Here some updates from Istanbul. I could add some more Turkish cities but then I'm sure that I'll hear comments such as that Turkey isn't european etc... In order to avoid this I'll post only Istanbul:

First fact: As a metropole Istanbul has got one of the worst railway systems world wide. Allthough we have world's second oldest metro and had the most developed tram lines at the begining of the 20th century they were all removed and replaced by streets and buses.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8382/istiklal3yp.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7394/galkop20uq.jpg

For years no one asked what happened to all the tram lines and maybe you won't believe but Istanbul had it's first metro line in 1989. In 2001 a masterplan was created which proposed 503 km of railway system for Istanbul and since 2003 Istanbul is building like crazy. You see in every corner a metro station cunstruction. The second fact is that Istanbul has got world's longest u/c lines right now. A total contstruction 143 km!

That's the published masterplan with 503 of railway system. Not every line on this map is u/c right now!
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8863/metromap1ow5.jpg

This map shows the lines which are u/c right now! The tram lines aren't shown, only metro lines!
green: existing lines
blue: u/c and construction will end by 2008 and 2009
red: construction start in 2007. By 2010 the red lines will be completed too.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7249/metromap2updateph9.jpg

Current metro:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1668/ist13px4.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4379/ist11ot2.jpg

Current LRT:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5903/hist1qj6.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5639/hist5xb5.jpg

tram:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/710/tramist4jz2.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8359/tramist9vw8.jpg

now the constructions:
the most important metro line is the marmaray line. It connects bots sides of Istanbul with a underwater tupe. The total lenght of the line is 78 km. With this line both ends will be connected with each other.

Here on this map you can see the line. On the other map I opsted above the line is also visible (in blue)
http://www.marmaray.com.tr/genel_images/genel_yolculuk_suresi_ve_guzergah_resim1.jpg

watch the constrution method of the underwater tupe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYZwLWAEUuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZf3rMigAfc

some pictures of several marmaray stations and surrouding.

whole areas and buildings has been demolished for the project:
http://www.marmaray.com.tr/insaat_images/yenikapi_arkeolojik_7_03.jpg

http://www.marmaray.com.tr/insaat_images/yedikule1.jpg

http://www.marmaray.com.tr/insaat_images/kuru_dok_8_06.jpg

http://www.marmaray.com.tr/insaat_images/uskudar_istasyon_insaati_03_03.jpg

http://www.marmaray.com.tr/insaat_images/gecici_saft_10_06.jpg

http://www.marmaray.com.tr/insaat_images/gecici_saft_12_01.jpg

http://www.marmaray.com.tr/teknik_images/yenikapi/yenikapi1.jpg

http://www.marmaray.com.tr/teknik_images/sirkeci/sirkeci2.jpg

more info if interested: www.marmaray.com www.marmaray.com.tr

construction photos of other u/c lines:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7123/devrim1907metro1wa6.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/497/metrooooohg0.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3163/mehmetkasim1145671127bedd6.jpg

paku

January 11th, 2007, 05:12 PM

Nice developments in Istanbul :cheers:
That guy must be suicidal though :D
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/710/tramist4jz2.jpg

Sbz2ifc

January 26th, 2007, 06:15 PM

As a metropole Istanbul has got one of the worst railway systems world wide. Allthough we have world's second oldest metro and had the most developed tram lines at the begining of the 20th century they were all removed and replaced by streets and buses.

For years no one asked what happened to all the tram lines and maybe you won't believe but Istanbul had it's first metro line in 1989.

Question: How can Istanbul have the second oldest metro if it had its first line in 1989??
That is just 18 years ago.
As far as I know, London and Budapest have the oldest metro systems in the world, and they're more than 100 years old (and that is a fact).

Joya

January 27th, 2007, 12:00 PM

I think he meant the modern first line. The Tunel has opened in 1875.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BCnel

paku

February 16th, 2007, 03:05 AM

New trams being tested in Wroclaw, entering service this month.
W7ip0MG5S7o

Vertigo

February 16th, 2007, 08:04 PM

Does any of you know an online bus map of Tbilisi (Georgia)? :)

polska2006

February 19th, 2007, 09:15 PM

delete

J@NeKyYz

February 19th, 2007, 11:42 PM

http://www.lotnisko-chopina.pl/katalog/terminal/pl/dziennik_2007_02_19.php

New photos of the nearly completed Terminal 2 in Warsaw. Arrivals have been functional since december, Terminal 2 departures will open in early April. This will cause Terminal 1 closure for renovations. After renovations of Termian 1 are completed, both terminal 1 and 2 will be able to handle 11 - 12milloin passengers yearly, however, up to 16 million passengers will ba able to go through the airport (designed for 11 - 12 million):banana: :cheers:

Vrana

February 19th, 2007, 11:46 PM

Sketches of three downtown stations of Belgrade's new light rail transit system, due to start construction next year:

"Akademija" station
http://www.imagehost.ro/pict//1904035845d9058ec4167.jpg

"Trg Republike" station
http://www.imagehost.ro/pict//1904160445d90864f1727.jpg

"Vukov Spomenik" station
http://www.imagehost.ro/pict//1904171645d908accb40a.jpg

Source: HTTP://WWW.BEOBUILD.NET

Sbz2ifc

February 20th, 2007, 04:19 PM

^^ Great development and great sketches. The last station seems to create a pretty important transportation hub.

February 21st, 2007, 11:57 AM

^^ the last stationa has been already built. It is hub an the deepest Underground station in Europe.

nebunul

February 21st, 2007, 12:15 PM

^^ I have seen very deep ones in London; so would not bet on "the deepest" :)

February 21st, 2007, 06:40 PM

they say so

nebunul

February 21st, 2007, 06:58 PM

Found this ...

Hampstead tube station is a London Underground station in Hampstead village in north London, NW3 1QG. The station is on the Edgware branch of the Northern Line, between Golders Green and Belsize Park stations, and on the boundary between Travelcard Zone 2 and Zone 3.

The station was opened on the 22 June 1907 by the Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway. Located at the junction of Heath Street and Hampstead High Street, the name Heath Street was proposed for the station before opening. Hampstead Village is located on a steep hill and the station platforms are the deepest London Underground station, at 58.5 metres or 192 feet below ground level. It has the deepest lift shaft on the Underground at 181 feet deep. The station is serviced by lifts and there is also a spiral emergency staircase, made up of 300 steps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampstead_tube_station

To the north, between Hampstead and Golders Green stations is the uncompleted North End or Bull & Bush station. Hampstead Heath railway station on the National Rail North London Line is about a 10-15 minute walk away to the east.

Hampstead is also the deepest station on the tube network

Ataman

February 23rd, 2007, 02:06 AM

The deepest station in the world right now is in Kiev:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenalna_%28Kiev_Metro%29

-Ataman

Vertigo

February 23rd, 2007, 02:33 AM

^^ Impressive! In most ex-Soviet states metro stations are located quite deep underground, but this is very impressive.

It could be that one or more stations in Pyongyang are even deeper though; it is not known how deep they are located underground, but it's also quite deep.

kokpit

February 23rd, 2007, 12:34 PM

delfin_pl

February 23rd, 2007, 12:59 PM

Gdansk is to buy 44 used trams (N8C) from Dortmund, two of them have already arrived.

http://www.linie-5.de/Dortmund/n8c-sl404.jpg

wholagun

February 23rd, 2007, 04:13 PM

why did they buy used trams?

new bulgaria

February 23rd, 2007, 04:42 PM

why did they buy used trams?

Because "No dinero".

delfin_pl

February 23rd, 2007, 04:45 PM

why did they buy used trams?

cause they are much cheaper than new ones.

nebunul

February 23rd, 2007, 07:02 PM

The deepest station in the world right now is in Kiev:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenalna_%28Kiev_Metro%29

-Ataman

Wow impresive ...:cheers:

nebunul

March 2nd, 2007, 12:14 AM

Eight of the 100 newly ordered ASTRA CITELYS trolleybuses (made/assembled in Romania; GPS, CCTV, low floor etc etc.; 15 years lifespan and under warranty up to 2010) are tested on Bucharest’s streets... all the remaining 92 will be delivered this year :banana: :cheers:

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7686/28408367ey3.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1366/18338582zj8.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5981/38555635yo3.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/710/68972591em4.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3148/33ve6.png (http://imageshack.us)

Rebasepoiss

March 3rd, 2007, 02:32 PM

The interior of this trolley looks cheap, maybe it's because of these plastic seats...

nebunul

March 3rd, 2007, 03:01 PM

^^ I think so .. the plastic seats make it look cheap. However the design/materials are more or less the same as London buses.

BTW ... look at the Mercedes Citaro; London has got the same model - only its articulated (should have chosen the same for Bucharest IMHO). There are about 500 in Bucharest and another 400 to be bought in 2007)
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9528/citos5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

London Bus Interior
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/927/zzzxi1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bucharest Trolley Interior
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5981/38555635yo3.png (http://imageshack.us)

nebunul

March 7th, 2007, 01:20 PM

^^ moment of truth ... on the streets of Bucharest ... :)
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6467/troleyzq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

soloveich

March 8th, 2007, 02:17 AM

train that will go between IBC and Sheremetyevo 1 and Sheremetyevo 3 airports in Moscow

http://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2234.jpghttp://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2238.jpg
http://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2243.jpghttp://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2247.jpg
http://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2251.jpghttp://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2261.jpg
http://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2249.jpghttp://www.dmzavod.ru/fotos/picture2253.jpg

http://www.dmzavod.ru/work/presscenter/fotogallary/45/189

monorail in Moscow

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2308/city9su3.jpg

and new trams in Moscow
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7861/0711010171200001kg6.jpg

nebunul

March 8th, 2007, 11:50 AM

Romania - RD Siemens-Desiro - "blue arrow" :lol: :nuts:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8163/sa11ue8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4921/sadm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3092/sa1zi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

delfin_pl

March 8th, 2007, 12:17 PM

New trains for PKP (Polskie Koleje Państwowe) built by PESA - Polish manufacturer in Bydgoszcz.

http://www.pr.pkp.pl/img_in/GALERIA/duze/g_nowe_cz_b.jpg
http://www.pr.pkp.pl/img_in/GALERIA/duze/g_nowe_cz_wnetrze.jpg
http://www.pr.pkp.pl/img_in/GALERIA/duze/g_nowe_cz_wnetrze_k.jpg
http://www.pr.pkp.pl/img_in/GALERIA/duze/karas1.JPG

delfin_pl

March 8th, 2007, 12:20 PM

and old "new" trains for PKP after renovation

http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/Image/PKP%20PR%20wagon%20srodek(1).jpg
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/Image/PKP%20PR%20wagon%20dalej%20II.jpg
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/Image/PKP%20PR%20wagon%20dalej.jpg

delfin_pl

March 8th, 2007, 12:22 PM

other Polish trains after modernization

http://www.skyscrapers.esefka.com/PKP/en57-2006rb.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.esefka.com/PKP/en57-2006rb_2.jpg
http://news.komunikacja.krakow.pl/img/20070159.jpg
http://stud.pam.szczecin.pl/~wizard/data/media/129/IMG_3554a.jpg
http://64.246.11.82/images/images2/e/EN_57-2001.jpg.25501.jpg
http://images4.fotosik.pl/183/7fc953fccd446519.jpg

http://images4.fotosik.pl/183/feb17d75662fe9f0.jpg
http://images3.fotosik.pl/219/a790c550d07309de.jpg
http://rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/Image/PKP%20wagon4.jpg
http://rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/Image/PKP%20wagon5.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/diesel/dmu/SA131/SA131-001_2006_03_11_01.jpg

IC - InterCity
http://rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/Image/PKP%20wagon7.jpg
http://rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/Image/PKP%20wagon8.jpg
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/foto/050322/wagony-bezprzedzialowe-pkp-intercity-03.JPG
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/car/EC-IC/interior/img_1607zz.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/car/EC-IC/interior/img_1633zz.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/car/EC-IC/interior/img_1620zz.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/car/night/WLABdimnu/69_51_70-80_400-6_1it04.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/car/night/Bdhmnu/04-06-13_PKP-Bdhmnu_28-90_002_EN348_AachenHbf.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/pl/car/EC-IC/cyan-white-red/PKP_615119-90016.jpg
Double Deck trains

http://jastrzab.lhs.pl/galerie/kolej04/!77_bdhpumn/bdhpumn_wagon.jpg
http://jastrzab.lhs.pl/galerie/kolej04/!77_bdhpumn/bdhpumn_dol_02.jpg
http://jastrzab.lhs.pl/galerie/kolej04/!77_bdhpumn/bdhpumn_gora_01.jpg

Bonus - old fashioned train on rail!

http://www.parowozy.com.pl/oktober2005/16.jpg
http://www.parowozy.com.pl/dezember2005/20.jpg

pt82

March 9th, 2007, 11:27 PM

http://www.vlaky.net/upload/images/reports/001659/04s.jpg
Slovak trains getting new colours (left one)... (in service since 1967:banana: )

VelesHomais

March 10th, 2007, 01:16 AM

Kyiv will buy 240 new buses and 318 trolleys this year, as well as several new modern trams.
http://koru.img.com.ua/pix/i184/184800.gif

Massive change of trams in the city will occur in 2008.
http://ua.korrespondent.net/main/68173/

4.7 million people used public transportation in Kyiv daily.

__

There are two major bus manufacturers in Ukraine, LAZ and Bohdan.

Ukrainian trolley:
http://www.mashke.org/kievtram/pictures/trol/laz183/laz183-2909-16-20060715-sofiya-AK.jpg

Ukrainian bus:
http://www.avksom.ru/1206/Img_1001.jpg

Inter-city:
http://www.ukrindustrial.com/img/catalog/7318.jpeg

butch83

March 10th, 2007, 01:41 PM

^^ theyre somehow citaro lookalikes

Realek

March 10th, 2007, 04:41 PM

http://www.vlaky.net/upload/images/reports/001659/04s.jpg
Slovak trains getting new colours (left one)... (in service since 1967:banana: )

These old Slovak locos are truly beautiful. I love them :D

nebunul

March 11th, 2007, 05:28 PM

Bucharest Basarab Overpass (2 km long / Started 2006 - Finish 2008)
I thought I'd mention this project here as the overpass will have a new tram stop accesible by escalators ...

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9787/pas1do4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6033/pas2zr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2821/pas5dh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8708/123456qa6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tram Stop (80m high retaining pillar)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4011/pass4yn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5545/pas3hd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More details on - http://www1.pmb.ro/pmb/primar/proiecte/Pasaj_Basarab/pasaj.pdf

coth

March 12th, 2007, 03:59 PM

The longest escalator in Europe is in Prague, about 100 m long in Náměstí míru station, whose platform is 53m below surface.
http://www.thyssenkrupp-elevator.de/Prag.268.0.html?&L=1

http://www.angrenost.cz/metro/a/nm/nm-escal-lower.jpg
Actually there many escalators longer than 100m in Moscow Metro. Longest are on park Pobedy station - 126m. Escalators on Petrovsko-Razumovskaya station are 122m long.

nebunul

March 12th, 2007, 06:35 PM

Romania - RD Siemens-Desiro - "blue arrow" :lol: :nuts:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8163/sa11ue8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Some interiors also ... http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Train/Romania

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7963/1122ib0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5251/123ar7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5202/ra1sh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1287/azazazabo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7365/ic02my3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More about Romanian Railways on http://www.answers.com/topic/c-ile-ferate-rom-ne

sun&sun

March 12th, 2007, 07:06 PM

why don't we own such things? :(
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8163/sa11ue8.jpg

Sbz2ifc

March 12th, 2007, 11:18 PM

Nebunul... where did you get those pictures? I used the Blue Arrow a couple of times and the interiors didn't look like that at all. :dunno:

nebunul

March 12th, 2007, 11:40 PM

Romania - RD Siemens-Desiro - "blue arrow" :lol: :nuts:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3092/sa1zi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the Blue Arrow interior. The others are just random interiors as per attached link - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Train/Romania

Gastly

March 12th, 2007, 11:40 PM

Isnt't that "Blue Arrow" stationed at the "Sofia Central Railway Station"...
Anyways...we have the same trains in Bulgaria...I think their pictures are somewhere back in the thread...

nebunul

March 12th, 2007, 11:49 PM

Isnt't that "Blue Arrow" stationed at the "Sofia Central Railway Station"...

^^ Hahahaha Craiova is still in Romania ... :cheers:
BTW I think you have this Siemans Desiro Model in Bulgaria also.

blue79

March 13th, 2007, 12:14 AM

Isnt't that "Blue Arrow" stationed at the "Sofia Central Railway Station"...
Anyways...we have the same trains in Bulgaria...I think their pictures are somewhere back in the thread...

here you go

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/BDZ-Siemens-Sofia-gruev.JPG

pescarush

March 13th, 2007, 11:06 AM

In Romania we have these Desiro trains since 2004!
They are made by Astra Vagoane Arad in colaboration with Siemens from september 2003.:carrot:

pescarush

March 13th, 2007, 11:47 AM

New modernised wagons in Romania.

http://images.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/thumb/0/08/CFR_etajat_acc.jpg/250px-CFR_etajat_acc.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%25C4%2583ile_Ferate_Rom%25C3%25A2ne&h=188&w=250&sz=10&hl=ro&start=8&tbnid=AwyEsmF_F0nyiM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvagoane%2B%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dro%26sa%3DNhttp://images.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gfr.ro/images/poze/arhiva/thumb_slide0027_image125.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gfr.ro/index.php%3Faction%3Dpictures%26PHPSESSID%3D96c7e058c439ba3f2cc07655bc953ac9&h=162&w=259&sz=9&hl=ro&start=12&tbnid=WS_PHSz1GBah0M:&tbnh=70&tbnw=112&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvagoane%2B%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dro%26sa%3DN

nebunul

March 13th, 2007, 06:15 PM

Nebunul... where did you get those pictures? I used the Blue Arrow a couple of times and the interiors didn't look like that at all. :dunno:

Got proper pictures now ... found some with my home town railway station & Siemens Desiro :banana:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7297/piatraneamt123xm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8499/yooooooooooooooonr5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and decent pictures with the interior (towards Brasov 2004) :)

Second class ...
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6793/b1gg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6900/b2rb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

First class ...
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3149/b3bj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

golov

March 13th, 2007, 08:06 PM

Those trains are really impressive, how many do you have?

nebunul

March 13th, 2007, 08:22 PM

Those trains are really impressive, how many do you have?

Total: 120 (95 already in use - some since 2003 ) and for the last 25 the financing has been aproved and should be in use by the end of 2007 :cheers:

golov

March 13th, 2007, 08:26 PM

Total: 120 (95 already in use - some since 2003 ) and for the last 25 the financing has been aproved and should be in use by the end of 2007 :cheers:
Thats pretty cool, I wish RZD (the Russian rail monopoly) would invest majorly into new trains. To be honest I dont really know what is happening on our market.

nebunul

March 13th, 2007, 08:31 PM

BTW the piece of resistance is CFR business class (in use since December 2006)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2903/bussinesshq6.png (http://imageshack.us)

new bulgaria

March 13th, 2007, 08:58 PM

Bulgaria has about 20 of them.

nebunul

March 13th, 2007, 09:26 PM

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6610/rord2.png (http://imageshack.us)

We are lucky to have got a "good communist legacy” (as all EE also): a big railway network. Of course most of it is outdated and needs to be modernized ASAP, but with loads of investments I think “the future looks bright” and green … so it should be …

golov

March 13th, 2007, 09:33 PM

Interesting map of different rail gauge used
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Rail_gauge_world.png

p.s. I never realised that Finland, Ireland, Spain and Portugal had such a wide rail gauge

Marek.kvackaj

March 14th, 2007, 03:03 PM

interesting thx golov

snupix

March 14th, 2007, 09:12 PM

Zagreb public transport report:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451807

Now with buses, too!

nebunul

March 24th, 2007, 12:04 PM

6 more Bombardier trains (33 mil Euro) for Bucharest subway
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5425/a21dm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.compact.info.ro/index.php?section=articole&screen=articol&art_id=23056

nebunul

March 28th, 2007, 01:25 PM

Bucharest - "new" bid for 100 trams is to be re-announced soon. Technical/price conditions are to be improved

Possible winner - Alstom Tram
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/2585/poej4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9516/zitxy5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/402/zit1sq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Very similar to Siemens Desiro used by Romanian Railways ... the bid stinks :crazy:

Siemens Desiro :banana:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7297/piatraneamt123xm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ivan330Ci

March 28th, 2007, 04:42 PM

Bombardier is an excellent product. Some budget advisors say, it's the best train that money can buy in terms of "bang for a buck". Kepp up good work.

nebunul

March 30th, 2007, 11:09 PM

[
We are lucky to have got a "good communist legacy” (as all EE also): a big railway network. Of course most of it is outdated and needs to be modernized ASAP, but with loads of investments I think “the future looks bright” and green … so it should be …

Updated Nov 2006

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6664/caifm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

joce23

April 1st, 2007, 10:04 AM

TRANSPORT IN CONSTANTA (2 exemples)

VOLVO DOUBLE DECKER BUSES

London has similar buses.

5QOh7BsxxBg

and

TELEGONDOLA

tw5pQjbKrN8

nebunul

April 2nd, 2007, 04:18 PM

Romania: Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece ask for technical assistance

Constantin Axinia, the general manager of the Romanian national administrator of rail infrastructure, was contacted by Turkish authorities for making a research study.
As a result, Romanian Railways are going to make an evaluation study on the quality of Turkish railway system, using performing technology.

Besides Turkish authorities, also Bulgarian and Greek authorities have shown their interest in having a diagnosis made with Romanian technology.

CFR SA is the present owner of one of the last generation diagnosis motor driven for tracks and contact line in Europe. Constantin Axinia declared that a motor driven of this kind can be found only in Austria, but the one in the possession of Romanian authorities is a more performing one. Besides it, there is no other machine of this type in Turkey.

www.railway-market.pl

nebunul

April 23rd, 2007, 11:52 AM

Bucharest - RATB plans to purchase 500 buses for EUR 134 million

RATB will purchase by the end of June 2009, 500 new buses for which it will pay an amount estimated at EUR 134 million. Only companies with an average turnover of minimum EUR 300 million in the last three years are allowed to enter the auction. The buses will be purchased in three stages, 50 units until 31 December 2007, 300 units until 30 November 2008 and 150 units until 30 June 2009. The RATB auto park includes 533 trams, 230 trolleybuses and 930 buses.

www.businessromania.com

Spalony

May 6th, 2007, 08:14 PM

I revive topic :)
In Poland we celebrate decision of managment InterCity Group, they want to buy first TGV-class trains in Poland. In future they join 3city with Warsaw and Cracow/Katowice (speed 250km/h)... In latest future we want to build the high-speed-line(300km/h) between Warsaw and Wrocław, but it's only plan now :)

cezarsab

May 7th, 2007, 12:34 PM

BTW the piece of resistance is CFR business class (in use since December 2006)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2903/bussinesshq6.png (http://imageshack.us)
i didn't know that we have this ....coool:banana: :cheers:

nebunul

May 19th, 2007, 11:10 AM

Bombardier, Bucharest Subway
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4774/58437968lv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

cezarsab

May 23rd, 2007, 10:19 AM

bucharest metro(University sq Station)
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9458/metrouuniversitateqg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nebunul

May 24th, 2007, 06:52 PM

nebunul

May 28th, 2007, 06:50 PM

Bucharest, Refurbishment of Marasesti Underpass (only 500m) to be completed by the end of June 2007

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3535/00ac8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8669/11au5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

also ... a proposal "Bucharest needs bicycle lanes"

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2030/b1kt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7213/b2ll7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

more on - http://www.velo-city.ro/

Pavlo

May 28th, 2007, 08:24 PM

Why is there a duck in the city near bicyclists?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2030/b1kt7.jpg

:rofl:

Ataman

May 28th, 2007, 08:43 PM

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2030/b1kt7.jpg

Based on the architecture, I would have thought this was Paris rather than Bucharest. It looks really good.

-Ataman

nebunul

May 28th, 2007, 08:46 PM

^^ just spot it :lol:

May 28th, 2007, 08:50 PM

i like the duck :)

nebunul

May 28th, 2007, 08:59 PM

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2030/b1kt7.jpg

Based on the architecture, I would have thought this was Paris rather than Bucharest. It looks really good.

-Ataman

^^ I take it as a compliment, as intended :cheers:
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8312/11hb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

commodore

May 28th, 2007, 09:24 PM

Why is there a duck in the city near bicyclists?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2030/b1kt7.jpg

:rofl:

We just love ducks ! There are plenty of ducks on the streets of Bucharest :lol:

butch83

May 29th, 2007, 07:40 PM

^^Yeah we've got two ducks in PL too, one is president and the other prime minister, and honestly not many ppl do like'em

Corneliu

May 29th, 2007, 11:07 PM

Project for Bucharest's express train...like the Parisian RER

http://www.anuala.ro/site_media/proiecte/2007/studii/s29/panou1.jpg

http://www.anuala.ro/site_media/proiecte/2007/studii/s29/panou2.jpg

http://www.anuala.ro/site_media/proiecte/2007/studii/s29/panou3.jpg

cezarsab

May 30th, 2007, 06:26 AM

proiectul e numai un proposal sau ce?

Corneliu

May 30th, 2007, 08:48 AM

proiectul e numai un proposal sau ce?

cred ca va fi realizat. se vorbeste de ceva timp despre el

Cracovia

June 1st, 2007, 05:01 PM

Cracovia

June 1st, 2007, 05:03 PM

http://www.arm.krakow.pl/inwestycje_wtoku_wiecej.php?id=31#!
Damn photos dont work...use this website

Petr

June 3rd, 2007, 03:55 PM

Warsaw Metro just decided to buy new 5 trains from the St.Petersburg Vagonmash. It will be last trains for the fist metro line which will be completed in 2008. So finally we will have 20 Russian and 18 Alstom trains to serve this line.

golov

June 3rd, 2007, 05:35 PM

^^ What model?

Petr

June 3rd, 2007, 06:31 PM

^^
It ought to be compatible with our old "81" to reduce running costs, so it must be some modernized version of "81" with new engine-driver cabin, ventilation, internal information boards, etc.

EDIT http://www.dedalgroup.ru/
ЗАО «ВАГОНМАШ» объявлено победителем тендера на поставку вагонов для Варшавского метрополитена (Польша), в соответствии с письмом от «METRO WARSZAWSKIE» Sp.z.o.o. за № EH/500/48/JM/06 от 30.05.2007г.

В тендере также приняли участие ЗАО «Метровагонмаш» г. Мытищи (Россия) и иностранный производитель вагонов компания «Альстом» (Франция), но варшавские заказчики отдали предпочтение петербургским вагоностроителям.

Поставка первого 5-ти вагонного поезда будет осуществлена уже в июне следующего года, т.е. через 12 месяцев после подписания контракта, а запуск в эксплуатацию - в сентябре 2008 года. За три месяца между поставкой и запуском в эксплуатацию первого поезда, специалисты ЗАО «ВАГОНМАШ» должны провести все необходимые работы по подтверждению его технических характеристик и пожарной безопасности на соответствие нормам, действующим в Европейском Союзе.

Данные вагоны будут существенно отличаться от вагонов предыдущей поставки, т.к. будут оснащены новым интерьером и экстерьером, высокопроизводительной вентиляционной системой пассажирских салонов, современными системой привода и управления дверями и другими техническими новшествами.

Всего ЗАО «ВАГОНМАШ» поставит Варшавскому метрополитену 30 вагонов, из них 10 головных (с кабиной машиниста) модели 81-572.2 и 20 промежуточных модели 81-573.2.

smuthny

June 3rd, 2007, 08:16 PM

http://www.arm.krakow.pl/galeria_przegladanie.php?identyfikator=31&i=2
http://www.arm.krakow.pl/galeria_przegladanie.php?identyfikator=31&i=0
http://www.arm.krakow.pl/galeria_przegladanie.php?identyfikator=31&i=1
http://www.arm.krakow.pl/galeria_przegladanie.php?identyfikator=31&i=3
http://www.arm.krakow.pl/galeria_przegladanie.php?identyfikator=31&i=4

http://www.arm.krakow.pl/cms/galeria/inwestycje_1_173.jpg

http://www.arm.krakow.pl/cms/galeria/inwestycje_1_175.jpg

http://www.arm.krakow.pl/cms/galeria/inwestycje_1_174.jpg

http://www.arm.krakow.pl/cms/galeria/inwestycje_1_170.jpg

http://www.arm.krakow.pl/cms/galeria/inwestycje_1_172.jpg

Cracovia klikasz prawym na obrazek i dajesz wlasciwosci i dopiero stamtad kopiujesz link, nie z okna przegladarki... wtedy beda działać.

JuMPer

June 10th, 2007, 12:14 PM

Градският транспорт във Варна с нови 25 автобуса "Мерцедес"

Varna Public Transport Company bought 25 new Mercedes buses

Cosmin

June 13th, 2007, 04:55 PM

What type? Citaro? Can you post a photo, pls?:)

sanasa1

June 13th, 2007, 06:50 PM

GOOD NEWS! Tarom's 2 Airbus A310 will be back in service from July 10th, flying from Bucharest to London and Tel Aviv! I wonder if they changed the paint scheme?
Source: Tarom.ro

VelesHomais

June 13th, 2007, 07:43 PM

Ukraine will buy 22 fast Pendolino trains this summer.

Like this ones
http://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/upload%20081006/Virgin%20Pendolino%20Liverpool%20Lime%20St%200938%20051006%20mc.jpg

nebunul

June 13th, 2007, 08:49 PM

Great news for Ukraine. I think, in order to be cost effective, these trains require special infrastructure

Cosmin

June 13th, 2007, 11:53 PM

Pendolinos reach 220 km/h. Where will you use them?!:dunno: Do you have tracks capable of sustaining such speeds or you'll apply the Romanian way?:lol: Here we have Desiro DMUs used even on InterCity routes. Note that Desiros are made for short, fast hops and can reach 120 km/h. We use them on long routes on tracks with limitations of 87 km/h for IC service. I think MAV (Hungary) and BDZ (Bulgaria) use them in a similar way on the same, stupid kind of tracks.

The point is I'm yet to see quality, high-speed train service in this part of Europe.:ohno: Goodluck, Ukraine. We (Eastern Europe and not only) suck at rail transport.

Stupid trains aside...

RATB (Bucharest's Public Transport Administration) will buy 500 new buses. EvoBus, Iveco France and Solaris Bus & Coach have made offers.

EvoBus offers the Mercedes Citaro for 210.000 euro each, Iveco offers the Citelis for 224.650 euro, and Solaris offers the Urbino at 216.650 euro each. We'll see who wins, but since MAN is not participating at the auction I hope they pick the Citaro. We already have 500 of them and they're good. About Citelis... we have the trolleybus version of it and they're good too, but too small for our overcrowded network. Citaro is a bit bigger (more room inside).

And for the Solaris, maybe our Polish friends can say a few words. Or whoever has them.:lol:

For Romanians, you can find more info on the buses and photos on my blog, here (http://blog.paginibucurestene.ro/2007/06/13/licitatia-pentru-alte-500-de-autobuze-a-fost-deschisa/).

VelesHomais

June 14th, 2007, 12:07 AM

I don't know anything about railroads, that's a statement released by the minister of transportation. I hope he knows what he is talking about :lol:

Pavlo

June 14th, 2007, 12:21 AM

I can answer that question. First off, this is a 10 year program (2005-2015).

Second, the method they are using is dividing the freight and passanger traffic separetely to insure these trains are running without delay. This of course, will be followed by renewed infrastructure, changing to new rails, etc.

As far as I know, and from what I've heard, it will be a sort of "pilot" program at first, they will pick a 200 km distance between two cities and run this train. From then on conclusions can be drawn and further planning can be continued.

Petr

June 14th, 2007, 12:31 AM

And for the Solaris, maybe our Polish friends can say a few words. Or whoever has them.:lol:

For Romanians, you can find more info on the buses and photos on my blog, here (http://blog.paginibucurestene.ro/2007/06/13/licitatia-pentru-alte-500-de-autobuze-a-fost-deschisa/).
Which Solaris Urbino? There are at least three versions of different length and two generations.
We have in Warsaw Man and Solaris buses and both are comparable. I like newest Solaris U III 18 even little more MAN Lion's City. :)
http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/albums/userpics/10007/8417-cnt.jpg

http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/albums/userpics/10001/8434-702.jpg

http://solaris-club.com/galeria/su3/su-062.jpg

Solaris Urbino You can see also on the streets of Rome, Berlin, Riga; and in many other European cities. Lately Dubai ordered some buses :D : http://www.solarisbus.pl/english_site/inf_5_2007.html

large gallery of Solaris all over Europe:
http://www.galeria.solaris-club.com/index.php

Cosmin

June 14th, 2007, 12:49 AM

They didn't said which one. Journalists are never heavy on detalis. Well... unless they invade someone's private life.:) They only said Urbino, and I hope it's the Urbino III. Probably the III 12... just a guess here... and no articulated ones... articulated buses are forbidden in Bucharest. Those RATB idiots...

Whatever they'll be... Merc, Citelis or Solaris, I can only hope they install some God damned AC on them!:bash: An overcrowed Citaro at 30 degrees can get REALLY HOT!:moods:

You guys have AC on your buses?

P.S.: thanks for that gallery site, man. I was looking for something like that.:cheers:

Petr

June 14th, 2007, 01:04 AM

Probably the III 12... just a guess here... and no articulated ones... articulated buses are forbidden in Bucharest. Those RATB idiots...
??

You guys have AC on your buses?
Only in the newest MAN and Solaris. :(

P.S.: thanks for that gallery site, man. I was looking for something like that.:cheers:
You're welcome. Solaris is one of very few things Pole could be proud of these days. ;)

sanasa1

June 14th, 2007, 07:56 AM

do they want to buy articulated ones?

jarekles

June 14th, 2007, 09:07 AM

project:
Warsaw wants to buy new (15) trams.
Cegielski (Polish company from Poznan) :
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/2999/z2999809G.jpg

done:
http://www.galeriapgk.com/data/media/83/165292.jpg

Cosmin

June 14th, 2007, 09:48 AM

??

What are the "??" for? Regarding the articulated buses being forbidden in Bucharest?:lol: I meant that in an ironic way. The point is, there are many lines where articulated would be a solution, but RATB says they're hard to handle and a pain in the ass for city traffic. I (and not only I) say they're plain stupid.:bash:

So... articulated buses are not really forbidden.:lol:

I also said, that based on the length and door configuration, they might choose the Urbino III 12 model.

Hope I was more clear this time.

Petr

June 14th, 2007, 11:08 AM

What are the "??" for? Regarding the articulated buses being forbidden in Bucharest?:lol: I meant that in an ironic way. The point is, there are many lines where articulated would be a solution, but RATB says they're hard to handle and a pain in the ass for city traffic. I (and not only I) say they're plain stupid.:bash:

So... articulated buses are not really forbidden.:lol:

I also said, that based on the length and door configuration, they might choose the Urbino III 12 model.

Hope I was more clear this time.
I also think, they are stupid. ;) Probably some bad experience with articulated buses in the past. Nevetheless in Warsaw most of the central lines are served by these beautiful monsters. :) We have only one metro line, so buses and trams are still crucial for public transport.

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 03:15 PM

These are some of the new trams (not the ones that there's going to be an auction for) that are going to be put into circulation in bucharest in the following months; it's called BUCUR LF and it's 70% Low floor.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ro/trams/Bucuresti/BUCUR/DSC07037.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ro/trams/Bucuresti/BUCUR/Bucur_LF_001.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ro/trams/Bucuresti/BUCUR/DSC07003.jpg

Credit: marian andrei http://ratb.metrouusor.com

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 03:26 PM

they are romanian made? by the name, that s what i m thinking.:nuts:
the design it s interesting, though i don t like the windows, they are too small, and the finishes not really the modern one.

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 03:30 PM

they are romanian made? by the name, that s what i m thinking.:nuts:

^^ By the look :bash: :lol: :nuts:

The old ones look better
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/749/72412780rv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

... also they seem to be refurbishing the light rail infrastructure. Good news :cheers:
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9923/39223090ok0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6005/95237145jn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ hope the pavemet will be done properly :nuts:
Please someone tell me these are not completed :ohno:

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 03:33 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol:

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 03:33 PM

yes, they are romanian made! i think they're so-so, better than the ugly ones that are running now. they are based on these ugly white ones
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4405/dsc03997zx1.jpg

but hey , until the new ones arrive, they're a good replacement!

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 03:36 PM

i don t think they made such an investment just to replace the old ones until the new ones will come.:nuts:

БЛ

June 15th, 2007, 03:39 PM

i thnik that both are ugly.

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 03:41 PM

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 03:43 PM

^^ it s ok then, so those are easy metro.
of cource they are better!:)
still, i m waiting the real trams to come.

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 03:55 PM

they haven't, these are going to run on line 41 ,replacing the old ones. the new ones don't have any relation to this one.im just thinking that its more decent than the ugly ones that are running right now in the city

^^ Definitely not better "looking" than existing … these ones I mean …
However I understand that there are two different things: tram and light rail
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/749/72412780rv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Anyway ... the new ones will be top class. Personally I hope they're gonna choose Alstom ... http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8399/46920050il1.png (http://imageshack.us)
as hinted by a townhall insider

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 03:59 PM

you have to keep in mind though, that the tram is not completed yet! no wonder ratb is keeping a closed lid on it! and personally iheard alstom also! they said that siemens and bombardier deteriorate the rails; and also alstom is probably going to cough up the bribe money hahaha. but the auction for the new trams will be held AFTER the one for the new 500 buses with AC! (i heard someone say who has a source at the city hall , that they are going 100% with the MErcedes CITARO that already are runing) and after an auction for another 100 ASTRA trolley buses which are needed ;

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 04:01 PM

you have to keep in mind though, that the tram is not completed yet! no wonder ratb is keeping a closed lid on it!

^^ No offence to RATB ... I have seen enough :nuts: :lol:

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 04:05 PM

^^ :lol:

Cosmin

June 15th, 2007, 04:13 PM

Dudes, I hate using the tram in Bucharest. And guess what... it's not that I have anything against trams in general, but the trams we now have are butt-ugly and when you add the amount of human *censored word* that uses them, it's enough for me to avoid them as much as I can.

So if they can improve at least the looks, then fine by me. Bucur is a shy attempt at making a modern tram. They're based on the V3A, as far as I know, and yes, they're ugly too, but at least they are modernized and not as ugly as the ones roaming the tracks today, uh?:nuts:

As for the new ones, I hope Bombardier or Alstom get chosen.:banana:

And someone said they destroy the tracks. Well, excuse me... Bombardier Movia metro trains also destroy the tracks. You wanna know why? Cause we have a shitty infrastructure. Of course those things need a certain kind of tracks and a very good type of tracks... but if you can't provide that, don't blame the no. 1 in rail equipment (Bombardier Transportation) or even Siemens.

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 04:18 PM

the bombardier movia trains are really good! ive went with one once and i like. the only thing is dont like is the subway stations that are disgusting but whatever

Petr

June 15th, 2007, 04:24 PM

As for the new ones, I hope Bombardier or Alstom get chosen.:banana:
Who are other tenderers?

Cosmin

June 15th, 2007, 04:36 PM

The tenders for the 100 new trams for RATB are:

Alstom
Bombardier Transportation
Siemens

Škoda was also on the list, but they've since retreated their offer allegedly because the bid was already "won" (if you know what I mean :) ) by one of the remaining firms. And then, the bid was canceled because none of the offers respected the price set by RATB, so we'll have a second bid... I don't know when.

mutleeyc, yeah, Movias are good. It's Metrorex's mentality and infrastructure that doesn't fit with Bombardier products.:bash:

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 04:44 PM

the movias running on those degraded tracks is like a lamborghini on a country road :lol:

Petr

June 15th, 2007, 04:50 PM

The tenders for the 100 new trams for RATB are:

Alstom
Bombardier Transportation
Siemens

Škoda was also on the list, but they've since retreated their offer allegedly because the bid was already "won" (if you know what I mean :) ) by one of the remaining firms. And then, the bid was canceled because none of the offers respected the price set by RATB, so we'll have a second bid... I don't know when.
So this list can change?
Polish Pesa is too busy with Warsaw's order for 15 trams, to bid for construction of 100 trams for Bucharest. :nuts:
But Pesa ain't that bad. ;) http://www.tramwaje.elblag.webd.pl/121n.html
That Romanian prototype hurts my eyes. :P

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 05:04 PM

Anyway ... the new ones will be top class. Personally I hope they're gonna choose Alstom ... http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8399/46920050il1.png (http://imageshack.us)
as hinted by a townhall insider

^^ this is Alstom? it s the best.
i saw them in Budapest, and i must say they are too long, it s like a train!
i wonder if they fit well for Bucharest's traffic...

Cosmin

June 15th, 2007, 05:09 PM

Yes, the list can change, but I doubt it will. Prime minister Tăriceanu said a few months ago, after visiting Zagreb, that he likes their trams (you know, the blue CroTram ones, used by ZET) and he'll propose CroTram to participate at the bid, but I think it was just another one of Tăriceanu's declarations, just to look like he's actually doing something useful.:)

Anyway, I really like these Pesa trams. Good job, Poland.:banana:

I know, the Romanian Bucur looks like out of a Robocop movie.:lol: But bare in mind they're made by URAC, which is not a dedicated factory, but a plant that repairs trams, in Bucharest, so...

pescarush & nebunul, the long ones in Budapest are Siemens Combino Supra, and the one in that picture is not Alstom, it's a Bombardier Flexity Swift type.

sanasa1

June 15th, 2007, 05:09 PM

i dont think they're going to be too long because the stations themselves aren't that long...probably the size of the polish one

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 05:13 PM

http://www.tramwaje.elblag.webd.pl/121n.html

^^ Nice trams ... change-over ... nice also :nuts:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5712/85975644qj8.png (http://imageshack.us)

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 05:15 PM

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 05:18 PM

Yes, the list can change, but I doubt it will. Prime minister Tăriceanu said a few months ago, after visiting Zagreb, that he likes their trams (you know, the blue CroTram ones, used by ZET) and he'll propose CroTram to participate at the bid, but I think it was just another one of Tăriceanu's declarations, just to look like he's actually doing something useful.:)

Anyway, I really like these Pesa trams. Good job, Poland.:banana:

I know, the Romanian Bucur looks like out of a Robocop movie.:lol: But bare in mind they're made by URAC, which is not a dedicated factory, but a plant that repairs trams, in Bucharest, so...

pescarush & nebunul, the long ones in Budapest are Siemens, and the one in that picture is not Alstom, it's a Bombardier Flexity Swift type.

:rofl: i was looking for a caracterisation about the tram, and u found it!
but maybe painted will look more human!

Pesa trams look good.:) and i think they are not so expensive, as Alstom for example.

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 05:28 PM

^^ Nice trams ... change-over ... nice also :nuts:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5712/85975644qj8.png (http://imageshack.us)

^^
:hammer: :rofl:

i just remembered in Constanta the guy who s doing this job actualy get s some money from the tram s driver!

Petr

June 15th, 2007, 05:28 PM

^^ Nice trams ... change-over ... nice also :nuts:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5712/85975644qj8.png (http://imageshack.us)
Elbląg is a small city. In Warsaw all switches are fully automatic. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbl%C4%85g
^^
:hammer: :rofl:

i just remembered in Constanta the guy who s doing this job actualy get s some money from the tram s driver!
In Poland tram drivers are doing it on their own. ;)

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 05:31 PM

^^ I love all polish towns/cities. I really do :cheers:

BTW ... second hand tram in Iasi ... what good times ... spent 5+1 years there :cheers: :tyty: :cheers:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7693/universitateann4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=377724&highlight=iasi

pescarush

June 15th, 2007, 05:37 PM

Elbląg is a small city. In Warsaw all changeovers are fully automatic. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbl%C4%85g

In Poland tram drivers are doing it on their owns. ;)

^^ ok then, it s excused!

Constanta is one of the biggest towns in Romania and i was making fun of it. but it s rather for the moment, cause Constanta won t have trams in short time, they are replaced with busses.:ohno:

Petr

June 15th, 2007, 05:49 PM

Yes, the list can change, but I doubt it will. Prime minister Tăriceanu said a few months ago, after visiting Zagreb, that he likes their trams (you know, the blue CroTram ones, used by ZET) and he'll propose CroTram to participate at the bid, but I think it was just another one of Tăriceanu's declarations, just to look like he's actually doing something useful.:)
Then You have strange tender rules, in Poland all public tenders are opened and invitations are not necessary. Or I have misunderstood You. ;)
Anyway, I really like these Pesa trams. Good job, Poland.:banana:
In half a year when they will arrive we will have a possibility to test them Warsaw, then we will judge them.
I know, the Romanian Bucur looks like out of a Robocop movie.:lol: But bare in mind they're made by URAC, which is not a dedicated factory, but a plant that repairs trams, in Bucharest, so...
Such plants also in Poland construct some trams:
http://www.protram.com.pl/aktualnosci.htm

Petr

June 15th, 2007, 06:17 PM

Pesa trams look good.:) and i think they are not so expensive, as Alstom for example.
88,7 m zł for 15 trams, means 1,556 m euro for 1 tram in the last tender. But they are 5-module trams, longer than those in Elbląg.
http://tramwar4.republika.pl/tw120n.html

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 09:46 PM

Oiiiii Videanu-le (Bucharest's mayor) where are the new trams/light trains?!!? :nuts: :lol:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8653/33667004lr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

JloKyM

June 15th, 2007, 10:02 PM

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 10:15 PM

The public transport in Sofia is awful..The trams are ancient and what's more-the most of them are bg made, the trolleybuses are comming from the stone age...only we have some nice buses...:ohno: :ohno:

^^ Bucharest has got similar problems. However, the metro trains, buses and troleys are OK now. We jut need more of them ... also waiting for the new trams

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1637/48036630ln7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4987/79475654zb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2103/51165430mh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I have to say though it has improved lately and loads of investments have been put in. Still a lot do of course.
One good think I have to mention is the recently installed touch cards/tickets. So no more paper tickets ... as in the picture below :cheers:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1238/99395610lc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

JloKyM

June 15th, 2007, 10:23 PM

^^ Bucharest has got similar problems - the buses and troleys ar ok now

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4987/79475654zb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2103/51165430mh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I have to say though it has improved lately and loads of investments have been put in. Still a lot do of course.
One good think I have to mention is the recently installed touch cards/tickets. So no more paper tickets ... as in the picture below :cheers:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1238/99395610lc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Your buses are awesome..The new Citaro is a really good choice..In Sofia we have only Connecto, Connecto G...everything else is just sh*t..The trolleybuses are all Ikarus ( more than 20 y.o.), and the trams are ...:nuts: :nuts:

nebunul

June 15th, 2007, 10:50 PM

14 June 2007 - Transfagarasan - the highest road in Romania has been re-opened (it gets closed during winter time)

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4199/76253710jn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/160/70305019xp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8598/41722453ou6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

butch83

June 16th, 2007, 08:08 PM

^^uuu.. me like, me wants to drive it:)

nebunul

June 16th, 2007, 08:12 PM

^^ You're more than welcome :cheers: . BTW this road woud get you to Sibiu - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=423666

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2750/0002jg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

jarekles

June 16th, 2007, 09:51 PM

Sibiu, Craiova :)
All in Romania is beautiful.
but this way is amazing :)

cezarsab

June 17th, 2007, 12:00 AM

thanx guys....your ALL welcome

VelesHomais

June 17th, 2007, 04:32 AM

Sibiu is unfuckingbelievably, I want to live there for a couple of months. Maybe I will..

Qtya

June 17th, 2007, 01:35 PM

^^ this is Alstom? it s the best.
i saw them in Budapest, and i must say they are too long, it s like a train!
i wonder if they fit well for Bucharest's traffic...

We have Siemens Combinos in Budapest...

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5595/combino22or2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Info on the Public Transportation of Budapest...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=444856

nebunul

June 26th, 2007, 01:34 PM

Bombardier sells 300m-euro trains to Metrorex Bucharest
www.zf.ro

Swedish rolling stock producer Bombardier Transportation, whose only client on the local market is Metrorex, announced that the total value of deliveries for the Bucharest subway stands at 300 million euros. "Our partnership with Metrorex started in 1999, and we have reached orders amounting to 300 million euros for trains and signalling devices. We are currently carrying out our current orders," stated Jean Berge, marketing and sales vicepresident of the Mainline & Metros division of Bombardier. The first contract signed with Metrorex entailed the delivery of 18 trains with a total of 108 carriages for the Pipera line. In total, Bombardier will have delivered 44 trains for Metrorex by the time the contract is concluded. Bombardier trains are assembled in the Electroputere Craiova plant, with the level of local integration standing below 10%, according to company representatives.

snupix

June 26th, 2007, 10:45 PM

Bombardier swedish? :weird:

Qtya

June 26th, 2007, 11:35 PM

IMO Bombardier is Canadian...

wholagun

June 27th, 2007, 04:23 AM

In your opinion? No opinion needed, it's a simple facts, its Canadian based out of Montreal Quebec Canada.

nebunul

June 27th, 2007, 12:20 PM

RATB (Bucharest's Public Transport Administration) will buy 500 new buses. EvoBus, Iveco France and Solaris Bus & Coach have made offers.

EvoBus offers the Mercedes Citaro for 210.000 euro each, Iveco offers the Citelis for 224.650 euro, and Solaris offers the Urbino at 216.650 euro each. We'll see who wins, but since MAN is not participating at the auction I hope they pick the Citaro. We already have 500 of them and they're good. About Citelis... we have the trolleybus version of it and they're good too, but too small for our overcrowded network. Citaro is a bit bigger (more room inside).

And for the Solaris, maybe our Polish friends can say a few words. Or whoever has them.:lol:

For Romanians, you can find more info on the buses and photos on my blog, here (http://blog.paginibucurestene.ro/2007/06/13/licitatia-pentru-alte-500-de-autobuze-a-fost-deschisa/).

Hope they'll go for Citaro (AC icluded this time)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9854/autobuzeda2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)