View Full Version : Provincial / Territorial populations on April 1, 2005
Gdoggy June 29th, 2005, 03:06 PM population on April 1
. 2004 2005
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Canada 31,857,453 32,146,547
Newfoundland & Labrador 517,929 515,946
Prince Edward Island 137,863 137,774
Nova Scotia 936,902 936,921
New Brunswick 751,235 751,247
Quebec 7,527,410 7,577,080
Ontario 12,347,467 12,482,980
Manitoba 1,167,502 1,176,132
Saskatchewan 994,852 995,085
Alberta 3,190,436 3,236,906
British Columbia 4,182,928 4,232,507
Yukon Territory 31,018 31,277
Northwest Territories 42,585 42,957
Nunavut 29,326 29,735
DrJoe June 29th, 2005, 04:26 PM Looks like Ontario and Alberta are the big winners again. Alberta by % growth, and Ontario by sheer numbers accounts for 47% of growth in Canada
Marcanadian June 29th, 2005, 04:33 PM Poor maritimes
marathon June 29th, 2005, 06:41 PM Looks like Ontario and Alberta are the big winners again. Alberta by % growth, and Ontario by sheer numbers accounts for 47% of growth in Canada
Actually Yukon and NT are big winners % too... ;)
oceanmdx June 29th, 2005, 06:58 PM ^ Perhaps one day those two will be bigger than California. ;)
WinnipegPatriot June 29th, 2005, 07:25 PM I hope Manitoba will continue its upward trend...the first three months of 2004 saw the population increase by 2540, but the first three months of 2005, it increased by only 1487. I hope this picks up rapidly throughout the rest of '05!
Steeltown June 29th, 2005, 07:40 PM wow only 12 extra people for NB and 19 extra people for NS. They probably already know the names of the newcomers :lol:.
oceanmdx June 29th, 2005, 07:48 PM It's looking like will take a little longer before NS reaches 1 million than some boosters would have us believe. ;)
Tosco June 29th, 2005, 08:48 PM Who lives in Nunavut? How cold is it there?
DrJoe June 29th, 2005, 09:07 PM Average highs for Iqaluit(capital of Nunavut)
Jan: -26.6 C
Feb: -28.0
Mar: -23.7
Apr: -14.8
May: -4.4
Jun: 3.6
Jul: 7.7
Aug: 6.8
Sep: 2.2
Oct: -4.9
Nov: -12.8
Dec: -22.7
Mostly Inuit people live there.
Lucky 24 June 29th, 2005, 09:42 PM Average highs for Iqaluit(capital of Nunavut)
Jul: 7.7
oooo.....balmy.
UrbanPhotoGuy June 29th, 2005, 10:45 PM Every Province and Territory gained PEOPLE THIS IS GREAT!
doady June 29th, 2005, 10:47 PM Newfoundland and PEI did not gain people
worldwide June 29th, 2005, 11:07 PM my freind lives in nunavut, he gets over 20$an hour to stock shelves
ssiguy2 June 30th, 2005, 03:25 AM ^^^Ya, but it cost a FORTUNE to live there and there is almost no housing.
ssiguy2 June 30th, 2005, 03:29 AM Funny, despite all the hype about the power of Alberta it still didn't grow as fast as Quebec. This is why I don't buy into this "power moving to the west crap".
oceanmdx June 30th, 2005, 03:45 AM ^ On a percentage basis, Alberta is growing about twice as fast as Quebec. Even in absolute terms, Alberta's population gain was very nearly equal to Quebec's. And Alberta's economy is not all that much smaller than Quebec's -despite the fact that Quebec has more than twice the population!!!!!
No question, power is indeed moving to the west (Alberta and B.C.) - they are way more important now to the nation than they were only 20 years ago. I dare you to compare.
marathon June 30th, 2005, 04:27 AM I'd like to see SK reach that psychologically important 1M mark, but in reality I suspect it's already there, and has been for some time...
DrJoe June 30th, 2005, 04:57 AM Well they were already past 1 million back in the 90's, kind of fell off a little bit.
oceanmdx June 30th, 2005, 05:07 AM We had a lot of economic refugees from Sask. that moved to Alberta in the 1980s and 90s. Now the Sask. economy is doing a lot better.
rt_0891 June 30th, 2005, 05:45 AM No question, power is indeed moving to the west (Alberta and B.C.) - they are way more important now to the nation than they were only 20 years ago. I dare you to compare.
This should cool down Western Seperatism feelings & further weaken Quebec's grip on Ottawa. Finally, the country's finally more balanced.
Nate June 30th, 2005, 01:38 PM Many Saskatchewan people are still moving next door to Alberta (the whole greener on the other side issue). The trend is that when people are young they go to Alberta, but as they get older they come back to Saskatchewan. Of course this isn't true for all, but it is true for quite a few.
And I believe it was over 1M in 1988 or so... and has hovered there ever since.
You are to blame June 30th, 2005, 04:33 PM This should cool down Western Seperatism feelings & further weaken Quebec's grip on Ottawa. Finally, the country's finally more balanced.
I think the opposite will happen. Increased calls for seperation in the west and a more nationalist smaller Quebec. At the same time Ontario will just keep getting larger and larger. In half a century 50% of all canadian will be ontarians
WinnipegPatriot June 30th, 2005, 04:52 PM I don't think Saskatchewan will ever be in a position to attract a sufficient number of people because it has no large city. Regina and/or Saskatoon may have improving economies, but that is not enough to lure large numbers of people to such small cities. Even if the number goes up, it will be because of Aboriginals, and that is nothing to boast...
Nate June 30th, 2005, 05:15 PM ^Saskatoon's population has been growing steadily for a while. Regina used to have more a few years back, but now Saskatoon is over 20, 000 ahead ;).
Both cities are growing very quickly actually, I should take pictures sometime of all the developments here in Regina that have happened over the last few years. And no this isn't due to Aboriginal population growth.
rt_0891 July 12th, 2005, 07:40 AM P.E.I. seeks to boost population by 1.5% a year
Last Updated Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:12:24 EDT
CBC News
P.E.I. wants to increase its population by 1.5 per cent annually – about 2,100 people – in part by encouraging immigration and by attracting former Islanders back home.
Premier Pat Binns said his government will announce a plan this summer aimed at boosting the population, pegged at about 138,000 when Statistics Canada did its latest estimate in April.
Binns said he's worried by a projected decline in Prince Edward Island's population. Falling birth rates mean there will be fewer working-age people in the future.
"The population decline that could potentially happen would have a devastating impact on the province and we must change the course that we are on," Binns said.
"We have to be aggressive about increasing our objectives and bringing more people to the province."
The new population strategy will include plans to try to persuade former Islanders to return home for good and to discourage people living on the Island from leaving.
However, a large part of the plan will focus on bringing more immigrants from foreign countries to the Island.
'This is the right place'
The government will be looking to attract more people like Ally Kuo and her daughter Theresa, who moved to P.E.I. three years ago and opened the Interlude Café on Kent Street.
P.E.I. wasn't her first choice when Kuo, who was classified as a skilled worker, immigrated to Canada from Taiwan five years ago.
She and her daughter started in Vancouver and then spent some time in Toronto before finally settling in Charlottetown.
Kuo said she thinks it's a better place to raise her daughter.
"She's so happy. When I look at her I know this is the right place. We should stay," said Kuo.
Often it's the other way around. Immigrants move to the Island from their home countries, then leave for larger Canadian cities.
addisonwesley July 13th, 2005, 04:22 AM Good news for the territories!
ssiguy2 July 14th, 2005, 02:33 AM I think Canada has to increase it immigration numbers as we hgave a low birth rate, significantly lower than the US.
Immigrants also tend to go where their community is and that is why Tor/Mon/Van get an overwhelming number opf immigrants............nearly 80%.
They do not neccesarily go to where the jobs are. An example id Alberta, boomin but a low immigration number.
WinnipegPatriot July 14th, 2005, 02:40 AM The ideal number of Immigrants allowed into Canada should be 1% of the population, something that has never been permitted.
Any thoughts on allowing additional immigrants into Canada providing they sign an agreement (by law) that they must remain in a particular province, such as Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan...?
Lucky 24 July 14th, 2005, 03:18 AM Why would we want to see the freedom of movement throughout the country of immigrants taken away? It would just lead to more discrimination and racial tension. And you can't just force people to live in a certain area....the area has to provide jobs to handle these new immigrants.
ssiguy2, you're right on with that statement. If people want to see less immigrants in this country, all they have to do is start bearing 3 (2.5 to be exact) children families. But given that the average female doesn't have their first children until their 30s in this country, that's not going to happen and our dependance on population growth will continue to rely more and more on immigration. And you're right about the reasons why most immigrants migrant to the big three....many immigrants do enter this country through the family class and prefer to live with near to the people they know. Those who enter in through the economic class are definitely more volatile as to where they choose to live. Refugees also tend to gravitate towards the big three because of the mindset of "opportunity" in those cities. The bigger the city, the bigger notion that there are more opportunities to advance in life.
itom 987 July 14th, 2005, 08:40 AM Canada should open the flood gates.
furrycanuck July 14th, 2005, 09:28 AM Alberta does NOT have "low immigration numbers"! Calgary for example takes in around 10,000 immigrants per year, making it the fourth biggest destination for new immigrants after the big three and giving it more immigrants, per capita, than Montreal has. Some smaller centres in Alberta, like Brooks and Ft Macmurray, take in far more immigrants than their sizes and remoteness would suggest.
WinnipegPatriot July 14th, 2005, 05:56 PM What I suggest would be allowing in the target number, but after the fact, allow a certain additional number in with the agreement that they would settle in areas that need the population boost. If getting into the country is that important, which to many it is, they will go for it. After all, Saskatchewan's economy is improving, and there are jobs that need to be filled, the masses are still leaving the province, so this is the only way it can grow.
I am not advocating dumping 500 Immigrants in Churchill, MB...I am referring to Halifax, Regina, Saskatoon...Winnipeg (even though the province has its own immigration strategies that seem to be paying off...we have a shortage of construction workers especially...)
big W July 14th, 2005, 06:01 PM Furrycanuck thats true, however Alberta with its economy should be attracting a higher percentage than it does period. It should be higher than any place in Canada if we are looking at attractiveness of thje job market etc. However that is not the case. Now saying that both Edmonton and Calgary have visable minorities of about 20% (which is also higher than Montreal) over time as the communities continue to grow, there will be movement of some immigrant families to Alberta from other points in Canada as well as immigrants to Canada chosing Alberta as the destination due to family etc. The point is Edmonton and Calgary both now have some critical mass of some immigrant communities that make it a more desirable place to move to as an immigrant.
KGB July 14th, 2005, 06:44 PM Well, it's not like Alberta would actually encourage immigration...hell, they even hate migration. You have to remember...I'm old enough to remember Klein when he was the biggest alcoholic low-life politician this country ever produced (which is saying quite a bit)...still very fresh in my mind are the comments made back in the early 80's when Alberta was enjoying one of their little boom periods of their boom-bust cycles, when he was famous for the phrases..."eastern bums and scums" refering to the skilled labour from other parts of the country heading there....and going to a homeless shelter and verbally abusing them while drunk...and the infamous solution to the homeless and poverty problem by "giving them all one-way bus tickets to Vancouver".
Albertans thought this was cute....and I imagine they still do....what's wrong with a bit of alcoholism and abusing people as long as you pull that right-wing christian stance.
KGB
oceanmdx July 14th, 2005, 08:14 PM Sorry KGB, but you have your stories badly mixed up - your memory must be playing tricks on you.
Just to correct a few of your glaring inaccuracies:
1) Alberta (Klein too) wants skilled workers from abroad and other parts of Canada. Alberta is doing what it can to facilitate the entry of skilled workers from abroad.
2) When Klein referred to "eastern bums and scums" he was the mayor of Calgary and he was frustrated with the rapidly increasing rate of bank robberies occuring in the city - most of which were being committed by criminals coming from the east - Quebec in particular. Tell us KGB, in your opinion is it really all that inappropriate to refer to bank robbers from Montreal as "eastern bums and scums". Klein most definitely wasn't referring to skilled labor from the east when he made his remarks.
3) When Klein foolishly shot off his mouth at a homeless shelter, he was good enough to apologize and cut out the alcohol for good. He deserves credit for ending the drinking.
4) The giving out of one-way bus tickets to welfare recipients so they could go to Vancouver really is little more than an urban legend (a myth). Circa 1990, Alberta decided to reform its welfare system to cut out fraud. Welfare numbers were cut in half from about 90,000. Out of the roughly 45,000 that were taken off the welfare rolls, only a few hundred ended up going to BC - that's a pretty small percentage.
5) Albertans don't think that alcoholism is "cute" .... nor do they think abusing people is cute .... and Klein has apologized for both, and made the necessary changes.
6) Your bad-mouthing of Alberta and Albertans is rather unfair. The fact they don't vote the way you would like is no justification for your remarks.
Klein was willing to change his behavior (stop alcoholism). The question is are you (stop the lying)?
Please feel free to PM me whenever you need a clue about what the deal is in Canada west of Toronto. ;)
Nanaimo Bars July 20th, 2005, 09:21 AM It is interesting to note both western Priemers gave up drinking because of bad practices! Ironically both would be very interesting people to share a couple of pints with! ;)
I would also be interesting in learing the inter-provincal migration patterns as I believe only Alberta and BC gained from the first six months of this year!
big W July 20th, 2005, 05:15 PM Yes thats true. ALberta and BC are the only 2 provinces with a net positive in inter-provincial migration and the largest loser in this department is Ontario. It would be amazing to see the growth of Ontario if it did not have a net loss inter-provincially. With the largest amout to Alberta.
ssiguy2 July 21st, 2005, 04:39 AM I don't know how you could actually stop people from moving once they are in the country legally due to immigration. Refugees are a different matter. The counrty can tell them exactly where to apply......thats not a problem.
For skilled immigrants it might help if they offered a one-time assistance package to move to a low growth province with the proviso that if they don't stay there for say five years then it must be paid back.
The problem of course is that even Ontario with all its immigrants id drastically short of skilled labour. I think the immigration numbers are too low and have to be doubled as the babyboomers retire and we will be very short of labour.
rt_0891 July 21st, 2005, 06:36 AM The problem of course is that even Ontario with all its immigrants id drastically short of skilled labour. I think the immigration numbers are too low and have to be doubled as the babyboomers retire and we will be very short of labour.
Skilled labour is readily available, but they lack the proper licenses needed to practise in Ontario. Some have to wait years due to QUOTA limits, others have to take courses that would require many years to complete.
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