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Monkey
July 2nd, 2005, 12:34 AM
London - Full Summary of Projects


Here is a full summary of all London's high-rise projects, including the current status of each. :) Click here (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?7400471) to view scale diagrams.


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Bishopsgate Tower
City of London

Height: 307m
Floors: 63
Architect: Kohn Pederson Fox
Developer: DIFA (Deutsche Immobilien Fonds AG)

Links:
SSC thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=191046&page=1&pp=20)


Notes:
At 307m, the Bishopsgate Tower planned by DIFA will surpass even the height of London Bridge Tower. If built, it will form
the dramatic centrepiece and soaring pinnacle of London’s main financial district.

Plans for a tower on this site have been around since 2002. A previous design by Helmut Jahn was rejected after concerns
about the base and top, and its bulky appearance on the skyline. This new design, however, is far more sleek and elegantly
proportioned. The architects of this new version, Kohn Pederson Fox, have created a tower which is more sensitive to the
delicate City skyline, and complements the neighbouring proposals extremely well.

Given the high quality of this new design, and its central location within the emerging cluster of tall buildings, it stands a very
good chance of being approved.


Current Status:
A planning application was submitted in June 2005. The developers hope to gain approval by February 2006.



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London Bridge Tower
Southwark SE1

Height: 306m
Floors: 71 + 16 radiator floors
Architect: Renzo Piano
Developer: Sellar Property Group

Links:
Official website (http://www.londonbridgetower.com)
Renzo Piano Building Workshop (http://194.185.232.3/works/062/pictures.asp)
Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101995)
SSC thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=76503&page=1)


Notes:
- Irvine Sellar's landmark tower, dubbed the "Shard of Glass" by the media, will be the first building in the UK to break the
1000ft barrier. It will dwarf the likes of Tower 42 and SwissRe.

- London's first truly "mixed use" tower, the floors will be divided as follows: 0-4 Public areas and retail; 5-28 Offices;
31-33 Public area and viewing gallery; 34-52 Hotel; 53-65 Apartments; 68-71 Upper viewing gallery;
72-87 Cooling radiator.

- At the lower levels, the skyscraper will extend the existing public concourse and open up routes connecting Guy's Hospital,
King's College and the southern residential areas to the business communities stretching along the river.

- 30% less energy will be required than for a conventional tall building through the extensive use of the latest
conservation and recycling techniques and materials. A ventilated double skin façade will considerably reduce heat gain
and increase comfort close to the facade. Excess heat from the offices will be used to heat the hotel and apartments
and any additional excess heat will be dissipated naturally through a 16-storey radiator at the top of the tower.
Winter gardens with operable louvre windows will be located on each floor allowing the occupants to connect with
the outside world.

- Following the terrorist attacks of 9/11, the tower was structurally redesigned to improve stability and reduce
evacuation times.

- The total cost of the project is in excess of £1.2bn and includes major refurbishment of London Bridge tube and
bus stations, along with other local transport improvements.


Current Status:
Following objections from English Heritage, and a lengthy public inquiry, London Bridge Tower was given final approval by
Deputy PM John Prescott on 19th November, 2003. Sellar have given PricewaterhouseCoopers (tenants of the current site)
12 months notice to vacate their building and say they are still fully commited to the project. The tower also secured its first
tenant, Shangri-La Hotels, who will be occupying floors 34-52. Demolition of the current site will start in summer 2006 and
will take exactly 12 months.



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Columbus Tower
Docklands E14

Height: 239m
Floors: 63
Architect: DMWR Architects
Developer: SKMC

Links:
Official website (http://www.columbustower.com)
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/columbus.htm
Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=163380)
SSC thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=127556&page=1)


Notes:
- Columbus Tower will stand to the north-west of the main Docklands cluster, just outside the Canary Wharf estate.
The project will comprise over a million square feet of retail, leisure, office and hotel space, contained within a 63-storey,
239m tall skyscraper. The developer, SKMC, is backed by a large amount of money invested by oil rich arabs. If built,
Columbus Tower will become the 2nd tallest building in the UK (and for a short time the actual tallest if London Bridge
Tower is delayed). The official website (http://www.columbustower.com) is extremely detailed and well worth checking out.


Current Status:
Fully approved, after a legal battle involving the building's height and its close proximity to City Airport. However, the tower
appears to be on hold at the moment. The lowrise building on the current site is being marketed and made available to tenants.



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122 Leadenhall
City of London

Height: 225m
Floors: 48
Architect: Richard Rogers
Developer: British Land PLC

Links:
Official website (http://195.167.181.213/pdf/pdf/3510_web.pdf)
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/122_leadenhall.htm
Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=149880)
SSC thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=124394&page=1)


Notes:
If built, the Leadenhall Building would become the tallest skyscraper in the City of London, at a whopping 225 metres.
It is designed by Richard Rogers, the man behind Lloyds of London, the Dome, and the Pompidou Centre in Paris. Despite its
height, the building has a relatively small amount of office space (500,000 sq ft), due to its unusual profile which means
the floorplates gradually decrease the higher up it goes. The slanting wedge-shaped design would be a stunning addition to
the London skyline. The base will feature a 90-foot high atrium that will extend the public area of St Helens whilst
providing shelter from wind and rain. Glass lifts will carry employees up the outside of the building, similar to those on the
Lloyds Building only twice the height!



Current Status:
Following an eight month planning application, the building was approved on 26th October 2004. The lease on the current
site won't expire until 2008. However, it is possible that British Land will start construction before then. Click here (http://www.minutes.org.uk/cgi-bin/cgi003.exe?Y,,,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,90,0,Corporation+of+London,REPORT,london,Planning+and+Transportation+Committee,BROWSE,,,,,,,,,,26.10.04,739171025,740078527,1,000000079731,1,1,1,P,60741610,0,00,00,N)
to view the full planning report from the Corporation of London.



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The Minerva Building
City of London

Height: 217m roof / 247m spire
Floors: 53
Architect: Nicholas Grimshaw
Developer: Minerva PLC

Links:
Official website (http://www.grimshaw-architects.com/index_new.html)
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/minerva.htm
Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=131586)
SSC thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=97349&page=1)


Notes:
- If built, The Minerva Building would be the first building in the City of London to contain more than 1,000,000 sq ft
of office space.

- A revised planning application for the 53-storey version was submitted during the week ending July 12th 2002. The
original proposal for this site, known then as St. Botolph's House, was a 14-storey office block. In 2001 this was revised
to a 36-storey, 159m (522ft) tall office tower. A post-September 11th revision brought structural and design changes
and a further increase in height, to 53-storeys and 216.9m (712ft).

- Its location marks the eastern gateway to the City and the building will act as a focus for the regeneration of the eastern
City fringe. The site is outside the strategic views of St Paul’s, is not within a conservation area and does not contain listed
buildings. It lies outside two of the three proposed viewing cones for the Tower of London, and whilst it falls inside the
third, so do SwissRe, 110 Bishopsgate, Tower 42 and the other towers of the existing and emerging City skyline.

- Although the official height is 217m, the building has planning permission for an antenna which could see its pinnacle height
rise to a whopping 247 metres (over 200ft taller than SwissRe).

- A restaurant will be open to the public on the highest floor.


Current Status:
Fully approved. Demolition of the current site (http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/city/minerva_site5.jpg) was scheduled to commence in Autumn 2005, but is currently on hold.
A major pre-let - or several smaller pre-lets - will be needed before this 1 million sq ft tower can start construction.



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North Quay
Docklands E14

Height: 216m (tower one) and 203m (tower three) and 120m (tower two)
Floors: 44 and 38 and 18
Architect: Cesar Pelli
Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links:
Cesar Pelli website (http://www.cesar-pelli.com/flash.cfm)
Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/cx/?id=104922)
http://www.canarywharf.com/news/news%20stories/pr_11.htm


Notes:
This trio of towers would be situated on a 7-acre site at the northern edge of the Canary Wharf estate. Previously known
as Shed 35, the site was sold to CWG with planning permission for a mixed-use development. Development of North Quay
is likely to take place after the completion/letting of the Churchill Place and Riverside South districts - possibly in 2006/7.
In total, the North Quay scheme will provide over 4 million sq ft of floorspace for retail and offices. As part of the Crossrail
development, a new station will be built here. A bridge designed by Will Alsop will also feature as part of the project.


Current Status:
Proposed, and in any case unlikely to start construction until 2007 or later, unless a major tenant comes forward.



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Heron Quays West
Docklands E14

Height: 214m and 156m
Floors: 40 and 29
Architect: Richard Rogers
Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links:
Richard Rogers website (http://195.167.181.213/pdf/pdf/3411_web.pdf)

Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/sh/?id=100637&txt=Heron%20Quays%20West)


Notes:
- Several designs have been proposed for the Heron Quay West site. One design at 101m, one at 150m and this twin tower
design - with one tower at 214m and the other smaller twin at 156m tall.

- This scheme (then known as Heron Quays I & II) was granted planning permission in 1997, but remained unbuilt.
In November 2002, the developer (South Quay Properties Ltd.) decided to implement the scheme and has since been seeking
approval of conditions attached to the planning permission.

- The taller tower is already believed to have been granted consent. The planning application for a neighbouring site shows
a 150m-tall tower at Heron Quays West in a massing diagram, stating that it is 'consented' at this height.

- At a cost of £300 million pounds this project won't come cheap and it's not expected to be started until both North Quay and
Riverside South are complete (circa 2010).



Current Status:
Still in pre-planning. Unlikely to start construction before 2010.



http://www.skyscrapernews.com/heron_west1.jpg








Riverside South
Docklands E14

Height: 214m and 189m
Floors: 44 and 38
Architect: Richard Rogers
Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links:
Richard Rogers website (http://195.167.181.213/pdf/pdf/3410_web.pdf)
RS1 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=135460)
RS2 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=135459)
http://www.canarywharf.com/news/news%20stories/pr_11.htm


Notes:
These twin towers, joined at the base, would be situated on the south-western edge of the Canary Wharf estate.
Accountancy giants, PricewaterhouseCoopers, have expressed an interest in taking these buildings for their new HQ.


Current Status:
Approved in summer 2004. Unlikely to start construction until a pre-let has been secured though.



http://www.richardrogers.co.uk/Asp/uploadedFiles/image/3410_Canary%20Riverside/design/3410_0140_1_w.jpg








Heron Tower
110 Bishopsgate
City of London

Height: 183m
Floors: 42
Architect: Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates
Developer: Heron International PLC

Links:
3-D Flash animation (http://www.heron-international.com )
Heron Tower approval (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2144867.stm)
Mayor Ken Livingstone's comments (http://www.london.gov.uk/view_press_release.jsp?releaseid=1324)
Architects' project description (http://www.kpf.com/Projects/110bishopsgate.htm)
The Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment (CABE) (http://www.cabe.org.uk/news/press/showPRelease.asp?id=273)
Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101374)
SSC thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=119085)


Notes:
Heron Tower was "called in" by John Prescott the Secretary of State on 27th February 2001, who directed the Corporation
not to grant planning permission and instead refer the application to him. The Public Inquiry was opened on 23rd October 2001
and closed on Monday 17th December 2001. On 22nd July 2002 The Secretary of State announced his decision;
accepting and agreeing with the conclusion reached by the Inspector, and granted planning permission for the development
of the Heron Tower.

Prescott agreed that no significant harm would come to the setting of St Paul's cathedral and that some marginal impact
on heritage interests was inevitable with any major development. He acknowledged that the tower would be
"an elegant, graceful and well proportioned structure" and would contribute to the overall supply of office accommodation
in the City, as well as boosting the economy.

Since that time, London has seen numerous other towers being proposed and approved, while Heron has continued to be
delayed. Tenants of the current site, Norton Rose, recently agreed to move offices to the More London development next to
City Hall but this development is unlikely to be completed until 2006/2007. However, current rumours suggest that Norton
Rose will negotiate a deal with Heron, allowing them to leave the Bishopsgate site some time in 2005 and take short-term
temporary accommodation. Heron International have stated that they will build the tower as soon as they obtain vacant
possession of the site, meaning that groundwork on the skyscraper could start next year.

At 183m its height will be identical to that of Tower 42, with a spire taking its pinnacle height to 222m.

The scheme includes a second, smaller tower of around 90m, immediately adjacent to the main building's north side. This is
Heron Plaza and will include 250,000 sq ft of retail space.


Current Status:
Both Heron Tower and Heron Plaza are fully approved. However, the developers seem reluctant to start construction until the
tenants of the current site (Norton Rose) have moved out. This is unlikely to happen until 2007 or maybe even later. If the tower still
hasn't begun construction after July 2007, a fresh planning application will need to be submitted. Gerald Ronson is rumoured to be
wanting a further 4-6 storeys added to the main tower, so he may very well delay the project for the next few years, much to the
frustration of skyscraper enthusiasts.



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St George's Wharf
Vauxhall, SW8

Height: 181m
Floors: 49
Architect: Broadway Malyan
Developer: St George

Links:
Broadway Malyan (http://www.broadwaymalyan.com/projects/sustainability/vauxhall-tower.cfm)
Skyscrapers.com listing (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=134303)
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/st_georges_wharf.htm


Notes:
- Energy efficiency is one of the Vauxhall Tower's most important aspects. The structure is topped by a wind turbine, which
will power the tower's common lighting. At the base of the tower, water will be drawn from the London Aquifer and heat pump
technology will be used to remove warmth from the water in the winter to heat the apartments. The tower will require one
third of the energy compared to a similar building and CO2 release will be between one half and two thirds of normal
emissions. It will be triple glazed to minimise heat loss and gain, with low ‘e’ glazing and ventilated blinds between the glazing
to further reduce heat gain.

- If built, Vauxhall Tower would be the tallest residential building in the United Kingdom and one of the tallest in Europe. The
total height from the basement is 185.4m (608.3ft) - 180.6m (592.5ft) of which is above ground. There is 1 basement floor,
1 ground floor (with mezzanine), 48 residential floors and a mechanical penthouse, all topped by an 11.4m (37.4ft) tall
wind turbine.


Current Status:
Following ongoing advice from the government architectural body CABE (Commission for Architecture and the Built
Environment), two revised planning applications were submitted and subsequently withdrawn. A final decision was made by the
ODPM in April 2005 and the tower was approved ( http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/londonnews/articles/17731809?source=Evening%20Standard ). Construction may start later this year. The site has already been
demolished and cleared.



http://www.skyscrapernews.com/vauxhall2.jpg



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Broadgate Tower/201 Bishopsgate
City of London

Height: 164m
Floors: 31
Architect: Skidmore Owings and Merril
Developer: British Land

Links:
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=162


Notes:
British Land have announced they will build this project, the Broadgate Tower, speculatively (i.e. without a pre-let). It will stand
on the northern edge of the City, quite far from the main cluster, but still in a fairly prominent location next to the Broadgate Complex.


Current Status:
Proposed. A planning application was submitted in March 2005 and a decision is expected in the summer. If approved, construction
will begin almost immediately - the current site has already been demolished and cleared. It is being built speculatively.



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51 Lime Street (The Willis Building)
City of London

Height: 125m
Floors: 26
Architect: Foster and Partners
Developer: British Land

Links:
The OFFICIAL 51 Lime Street (Willis Building) Construction thread ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=100196&page=1)
Webcam 1 (http://www.51limestreet.com/gallery_cam.htm)
Webcam 2 (http://www.51limestreet.com/gallery_cam2.htm)


Notes:
Foster’s second major tower for the City of London, this will stand opposite the Lloyds Building and SwissRe.
Demolition of the current site has finished and construction has begun. It is expected to be finished by around late 2006.
All 400,000 sq ft of the building has been let to the Willis Group, who wanted “an iconic building” for their new HQ.


Current Status:
Under construction!



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Ontario Tower, New Providence Wharf
Canary Wharf

Height: 104m
Floors: 32
Architect: Skidmore Owings & Merril
Developer: Ballymore

Links:
The OFFICIAL Ontario Tower (New Providence Wharf) Construction thread ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=130921&page=1&pp=20)
More renderings (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/imagesall.php?idi=Ontario%2BTower%2BNew%2BProvidence%2BWharf&ref=166&selfidi=166OntarioTowerNewProvidenceWharf_pic1.jpg&self=nse&no=1&x=56&y=65)


Notes:
This lipstick-shaped tower will become one of the tallest residential developments in the Docklands. It was recently given a
height increase to 104m. Construction is well underway and the building’s core has started to rise.


Current Status:
Under construction!



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/ontariotower/1.jpg








Exchange Tower
City of London

Height: 100m
Floors: 26
Architect: Nicholas Grimshaw
Developer: Hammerson

Links:
SSC thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=228129&page=1)


Notes:
The old Stock Exchange tower, in the heart of the City, is set to undergo a major renovation. This will involve a
complete recladding of the exterior, and substantial expansion of the internal office space. A crane recently arrived on site,
meaning this project is now active. Work is set to be completed in early 2007 and once finished it will contain more than
45,000 square metres of refurbished office space, plus 2,500 square metres of new retail space on the lower floors and
new pedestrian links joining Old Broad Street with Throgmorton Street.


Current Status:
Active!



http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/329WorkStartsOnFormerStockExchange._pic1.jpg








Ropemaker Place
City of London

Height: 93m
Floors: 23
Architect: Gensler Associates
Developer: Helical Bar

Links:
The OFFICIAL Ropemaker Place Construction thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=166635&page=1)


Notes:

A new midrise for the City which will stand literally next door to Citypoint and Moorhouse. The height is fairly significant
and will help to bulk out the northwestern part of the cluster.


Current Status:
Under construction!



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Other projects
(various)

Other projects worth mentioning include these (in descending order of height):


80-88 Bishopsgate. Great Portland Estates are planning a major redevelopment of the site immediately south of the
Heron Tower. Rumours have suggested a skyscraper of 260m/55 storeys. Given its central location, this would form an
excellent pinnacle to the skyline when viewed from Waterloo Bridge. This project is a long way off, however, and still in
pre-planning. The lease on the current site runs until 2011.


Beetham Tower (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=181885&page=1&pp=20). A huge 60-storey residential tower, planned for Blackfriars Road in Southwark. The current site
has already been demolished and - if approved later this year - construction could begin almost immediately.


Various towers in Croydon. A major redevelopment of the area is taking place. A planning application for a 180m/40 storey
landmark tower – Suffolk House (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2335) - was submitted in April 2005. It has been suggested that Fairfields House, another scheme
nearby, will consist of three towers - two of 40 floors and one of 60.


20 Blackfriars Road (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=181885&page=1&pp=20). Land Securities are planning a 176m/35-storey tower that will stand on a site almost
immediately adjacent to the Beetham Tower mentioned above. The architect is Wilkinson Eyre.


Stratford City Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/4906095523.jpg), in Newham. This is still a long way off (2010 perhaps), but is very likely to get the go-ahead
and will most likely be a skyscraper of around 170m/50 storeys. It will form the pinnacle of a new cluster.


Wood Wharf (http://www.woodwharf.com). This will include two towers of around 140m. Construction of these could begin around late 2005/early 2006.


22 Marshwall (http://www.22marshwall.com/images/largimg7_gp.jpg). 140m tall and 110m tall residential towers for Marshwall in the Isle of Dogs literally next door to riverside south.


1 Millharbour (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/imagesall.php?idi=1%2BMillharbour%2B%2528scheme%2BB%2529%2BTower%2B2&ref=107&selfidi=1071Millharbour%28schemeB%29Tower2_pic1.jpg&self=nse&no=1&x=55&y=48). A new Docklands midrise that is likely to start in the near future. 139m/46 storeys, surrounded by five other
buildings around half its height. The tower includes a spire that will take its total height to an impressive 160m.
It was recently confirmed that construction will start in the Autumn of this year.


Islington City Basin Towers. Two towers with heights of 135m and 110m have outline planning permission for a site
in Islington, North London.


Grand Union Building (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102967). 132m office tower, part of the Paddington Basin redevelopment. Currently on-hold due to downturn
in the office market.


Crossharbour (http://www.ballymore.co.uk/site/bally_development_page.php?search=1&country=1&type=&available=2&development_id=13). 131m residential tower being planned for the Docklands. The original proposal for this building was
53 storeys tall, with a structural height of 170 metres. It was reduced in height following concerns from local residents
and the planning authority.


Kings Reach Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=24379). Reclad of the existing tower, plus a height increase to 130m. Consent for the scheme was granted in July 2005.


Dome Waterfront Hotel (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=85). Situated on the Greenwich Peninsula, this has been approved and will become
the UK's tallest hotel. 127m.


Lots Road, Chelsea (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=395). Two residential towers, one of 122m/37 storeys and another of 85m/25 storeys. The taller tower
was originally planned at 99m, but was given a height increase and has now been approved. The shorter building,
originally planned at 130m, has now been reduced in height, and is still awaiting approval.


News International, Wapping (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/newsintl1.jpg). The headquarters of News International will feature two towers - one of 122m/27 storeys
and another of 56m/12 storeys. These will stand mid-way between the City of London and Canary Wharf. If approved,
construction could begin in 2005.


Granite Wharf. (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/sh/?id=100637&txt=Granite%20Wharf) London and Regional Properties are planning twin residential towers of 35 storeys. The architects are
Squire and Partners. A rough estimate of the height would be around 120m.


Convoy's Wharf (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=221231). A trio of 3 residential towers in Greenwich, all of which were recently approved. The tallest
will be 116m/40-storeys, but its AOD height will be significantly higher, at 148m. The other towers
will be 91m/32 storeys and 72m/26 storeys respectively. Architect is Richard Rogers.


100 Middlesex Street (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/100middlesex_street1.jpg). A midrise tower that will stand close to the Minerva Building and help to stretch the City skyline
northeastwards. This was approved in May 2004 and is unlikely to begin construction until a significant pre-let has
been made. 112m/25 storeys.


Norton Folgate (http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=120358). A new midrise for the northern edge of the City. It will stand literally next door to the Broadgate Tower.
Approved, but currently on hold. Height is 108m/24 storeys.


United Standard House (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/united_standard_house.jpg). This combined hotel and office will stand near the Minerva Building. It will contain a glass atrium
of interlocking sheets that rise up the middle all the way to its top. The height will be just under 100m/24 storeys.


Reuters Blackwall Yard Redevelopment (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=591). Another project designed by Squire and Partners which includes a residential
tower of 98m/29 storeys. The development has been approved and will be located near Canary Wharf.


West End Green (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=127). A residential tower that could start construction next year. Reduced in height from 133m to 85m.


Tabard Square (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=129356). Residential tower under construction in Southwark. Height is 82m. The building is now topped out.


Elektron Building. Developer Barratt Homes has secured planning consent for a massive housing scheme along
Aspen Way, opposite the Millenium Dome. This will feature three towers ranging in height from 73m to 81m.


Mitre Square. Another new midrise from Helical Bar, planned for EC3 in the City. Architect is Sheppard Robson.
It was recently confirmed that construction will start in 2006. Height will be 80m/19 storeys.


44 Hopton Street (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/44hopton.jpg). Residential tower that would stand close to the Tate Modern on the South Bank. The original 107m
proposal was significantly reduced in height following complaints from local residents and the Tate Modern gallery. It was
submitted again, at 71m, but this too was rejected. Following an appeal by the developers it was then approved. 71m/20 storeys.


Royex House. A 70m midrise for the City. Groundwork is underway. It will add to the cluster around CityPoint/Moorhouse.


1 Commercial Street (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/1commercial_street.jpg). A new 70m tower for the eastern edge of the City. It will join several other new towers
in the Aldgate area, the largest of course being Minerva.


Potters Fields (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/imagesall.php?ref=1614&idi=Potters+Fields+Tower+2&self=nse&selfidi=1614PottersFieldsTower2_pic2.jpg&no=2). A cluster of 8 towers, resembling Daleks, that would be built on the green space currently situated between
Tower Bridge and City Hall. The tallest would be 69m. Currently on hold.


Palestra (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=88486&page=1). Will Alsop's 56m office block, already under construction in Southwark. Not exactly tall, but it has nearly the same
amount of floorspace as Tower 42. This groundscraper is a striking design and will massively enhance the area.


Cardinal Place SW1 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=105367&page=1). Another big groundscraper under construction. It is nearing completion.


20 Fenchurch Street. Redevelopment of the existing site which is likely to include a taller tower than the current one.
Height unknown, but could be significantly taller than the current 90m building.


Ellerman House, 15-20 Camomile Street (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120247&page=1). This new office tower was being planned by Henderson, but the site has now
been acquired by Great Portland Estates as part of the 80-88 Bishopsgate redevelopment. It is a very prominent location, being at
the heart of the tall buildings cluster, and whatever is built here would nicely fill the gap between SwissRe and Tower 42.





City of London and City Fringe Map

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/city_development_map.jpg

COMPLETED
A - 99 Bishopsgate
B - Draper's Gardens
C - Angel Court
D - Tower 42
E - Stock Exchange Tower
F - St. Helen's
G - Lloyd's Building
H - 54 Lombard Street
I - 20 Fenchurch Street
J - 30 St Mary Axe (SwissRe)
K - 58 Fenchurch Street (AIG Europe)
L - Plantation Place
M, O, P - Barbican Towers
N - Citypoint
Q - 125 London Wall
R - 200 Aldersgate Street
31 - Moor House

UNDER CONSTRUCTION
2 - Ropemaker Place
6 - 51 Lime Street (Willis Building)
30 - Royex House

APPROVED
1 - Alie Street Hotel
3 - 100 Middlesex Street
4 - Heron Plaza
5 – Heron Tower (110 Bishopsgate)
6 - 51 Lime Street
7 - 64-74 Mark Lane
10 - Minerva Building
14 - 122 Leadenhall Street (British Land)
33 - 1 Commercial Street

PROPOSED
8 - Norton Folgate
9 - 80-88/104 Bishopsgate & 1-11 Camomile Street Redevelopment (Great Portland Estates)
11 - 30 & 32-38 Duke's Place Redevelopment (Corporation of London)
12 - International House Redevelopment (20-storey tower by Helical Bar plc.)
13 – Bishopsgate Tower (DIFA)
15 - Ellerman House
16 - Beetham Tower
17 - Aldgate Union
18 - United Standard House
19 - Bury Street Tower


That's just about it! If I've missed any off, please let me know and I'll update this summary. Cheers. Will :cheers:

Monkey
July 2nd, 2005, 12:40 AM
I've reorganised the summary a bit, moved some "active" projects up to the main list to give them a bit more significance, and added several midrises to the list of "Other Projects".

The most important change, of course, is that DIFA has now overtaken LBT as the tallest project. :)

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:



LONDON

Green = Completed | Blue = Proposed/Approved


Bishopsgate Tower 307m
London Bridge Tower 306m
Columbus Tower 237m
1 Canada Square 235m
122 Leadenhall 225m
Minerva 217m + 30m spire
North Quay 1 216m
Beetham Tower 215m
Riverside South 1 214m
Heron Quays West 1 214m
North Quay 3 203m
8 Canada Square (HSBC) 200m
25 Canada Square (Citigroup) 200m
Riverside South 2 189m
BT Tower 188m
110 Bishopsgate 183m + 40m spire
Tower 42 183m
St George's Wharf 181m
Suffolk House 180m
Vauxhall Bondway Tower 180m
SwissRe (30 St Mary Axe) 180m
Wilkinson Eyre Tower 176m
Stratford City Tower 170m
Broadgate Tower 164m
1 Millharbour 160m
Grand Union Building 158m including spire
1 Churchill Place 156m
Heron Quays West 2 156m
25 Bank Street 153m
40 Bank Street 153m
10 Upper Bank Street 151m

Britannia
July 2nd, 2005, 12:42 AM
Is this the abandoned scheme for South Quay site which is now discovery dock??

No, the scheme pictured is South Quay 6,7,8 - bit of a shitty name. It's on the site of the Audi dealership.

large
July 2nd, 2005, 08:44 AM
That list is fantastic until you read the current status comments. Three midrises under construction, the rest on hold waiting for pre-lets or an upturn in the office market. Is London going be the Jimmy White of world cities, the best skyline that never was?

Remusable
July 2nd, 2005, 10:12 AM
Demolition of the current site will start in summer 2006 and
will take exactly 12 months.

12 months? To knock down a building..? Dag nammit..

london lad
July 2nd, 2005, 11:19 AM
Your right Brit- Had another look at it & saw it will be next to Millharbour- Has this got consent etc?? and do you know if this is going ahead if it has??

It looks quite nice- the housing element looks quite classy & this would make Marsh Wall worth a walk down in a few years with this ,Millharbour & Marsh wall towers

http://www.epr.co.uk/architect_residential_southquay.html

http://************/6o0sw2.jpg

http://************/6o0t1t.jpg

IMG]http://************/6o0t5i.jpg[/IMG]

london lad
July 2nd, 2005, 11:21 AM
http://************/6o0t5i.jpg

Peyre
July 2nd, 2005, 02:15 PM
12 months? To knock down a building..? Dag nammit..

to knock down the tallest building ever demolished in the UK. But yes, its gonna be frustrating. I though Lime Street took ages. Just rig the thing with charges and press the plunger :D

Britannia
July 2nd, 2005, 02:40 PM
Your right Brit- Had another look at it & saw it will be next to Millharbour- Has this got consent etc?? and do you know if this is going ahead if it has??

I don't think it's got consent yet. Considering the state of the Docklands market at the moment, and the other stuff going up, I'm not sure they'd build it straight away. Maybe wait until CW attracts more new tenants to generate demand for hotel and resi space.

jimbo
July 2nd, 2005, 04:29 PM
10 Gresham Street is now looking fully let from spring 2006. Lloyds TSB has an option on 4 floors of the 6 storey Foster designed block and should move their Corporate Markets relationship teams across in 2006 from various sites across the City. the other two floors are on option to Sumitomo Bank. This is particularly interesting because Sumitomo are currently residing in Bucklesbury House overlooking Bank and Mansion House and as rumours on here have suggested the site is primed for redevelopment fairly soon. Any info or renders about this one would be welcome, especially as we had the worst Xmas party ever in the Mithras Wine Bar in the basement of Bucklesbury House two years ago!

I thought this was good news for the letting market chaps!

london lad
July 2nd, 2005, 04:37 PM
Jimbo- L&G own Bucklesbury House & the last I heard Foster & Nouvell are working up a scheme for them. L&G will be moving to a new HQ which is being built on London wall now (Austral House) so the building should be empty by end of 2007 & then hopefully another god awful postwar office block will see dust!!

Mithras wine bar is rather dodgy isn't lol- used to work for L&G at Bucksbury here years ago- v.poor building.

jimbo
July 2nd, 2005, 04:55 PM
Jimbo- L&G own Bucklesbury House & the last I heard Foster & Nouvell are working up a scheme for them. L&G will be moving to a new HQ which is being built on London wall now (Austral House) so the building should be empty by end of 2007 & then hopefully another god awful postwar office block will see dust!!

Mithras wine bar is rather dodgy isn't lol- used to work for L&G at Bucksbury here years ago- v.poor building.

marvellous - couldn't quite remember what the status was, but I'd suspect Austral House could be finished by end 2006. Bucklesbury House is awful especially when you see it overshadows the lovely St Stephen's Walbrook (where Chad Varah founded the Samaritans) which hilariously now has a Starbucks built into the side of it!

there were one or two disciplinary issues after the last Mithras gig, namely people raiding the bar and removing articles of clothing. not me mind, far too sensible for that.

Monkey
July 2nd, 2005, 07:22 PM
Can this thread be stickified please?

eddyk
July 3rd, 2005, 03:57 PM
What is bigger....Terminal 5 or the Millennium dome?

Ensignia
July 3rd, 2005, 05:21 PM
Can this thread be stickified please?

Are you not able to do this yourself Will? I thought you were a mod???

@eddyk

dunno the exact answer but apparently the Dome has enough floor space to accommodate 18,000 London double decker buses. Pointless yet fascinating.

Anyway what a great thread Willy old boy, all info about London available in one convenient thread. Marvellous. If you're left out from the Queen's New Year Honour's list it will be quite scandalous.

Monkey
July 3rd, 2005, 06:58 PM
Are you not able to do this yourself Will? I thought you were a mod???
I moderate the World forums, not the UK forum. My powers are useless here :tongue3: :doh:

Anyway what a great thread Willy old boy, all info about London available in one convenient thread. Marvellous. If you're left out from the Queen's New Year Honour's list it will be quite scandalous.
Lol :)
I've just added Norton Folgate (http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=120358) to the list btw - I'd forgotten all about it. Location would be great as it's virtually next door to the Broadgate Tower. Height is fairly decent too. It seems to have been on hold for absolutely ages though... hope they haven't cancelled it altogether.

Mikey
July 3rd, 2005, 08:41 PM
^ the list is rather vague about Convoys wharf which has received planning permission for all three towers :)

Cabman
July 3rd, 2005, 08:58 PM
Three mid rises, a re-clad and two groundscraprs isn't a good return for such an awesome list. It would be nice to see some progress on one of the biguns.

Monkey
July 3rd, 2005, 09:02 PM
^ the list is rather vague about Convoys wharf which has received planning permission for all three towers :)
Okay, I changed it :)

Sikario
July 4th, 2005, 08:02 AM
What exactly is happening with the 12–20 Camomile Street plot then? I thought the design was cancelled or something like that? Any news?

Britannia
July 4th, 2005, 02:05 PM
Another scheme is being worked up for that site and a neighbouring site, but they're a long way from revealing any information.

DarJoLe
July 5th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Yum!

http://www.newlondonarchitecture.org/images/020705105848.jpg

Fragmentor
July 5th, 2005, 07:00 PM
looks very good indeed, not seen one form that side before i dont think

london lad
July 5th, 2005, 08:31 PM
Founf this pic of Heron from ground level- not sure if this is a pipe dream as where it looks pedestrianised it is a the moment a very busy road.

http://************/6r6fep.jpg

BTW- the square red building in the distance is an ideal site for a tower IMO (in case theres any developers reading this ;) )

Rational Plan
July 5th, 2005, 09:29 PM
Part of the planning permission was a requirement to redesign the roads and close off this street.

london lad
July 5th, 2005, 09:43 PM
Latest addition of the wharf summer 05- couple of nice shots of wood wharf & 1 Millharbour, in which it confirms that construction will begin in the Autumn

http://www.canarywharfnews.com/news/index_news.htm

eddyk
July 5th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Great News.

Monkey
July 5th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Latest addition of the wharf summer 05- couple of nice shots of wood wharf & 1 Millharbour, in which it confirms that construction will begin in the Autumn

http://www.canarywharfnews.com/news/index_news.htm
That's awesome! Millharbour will be 160m if you count the pinnacle height :cheers:

Jonny 5
July 6th, 2005, 03:21 AM
This the first colour rendering of 100 Middlesex Street i've seen. 29 floors and in the City of London.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/9020705113850.jpg

Cabman
July 6th, 2005, 03:27 AM
The lower bit looks a bit like the piper building in Fulham while wtf.... what is the tower supposed to be. You can't tell bugger all from that rendering.

gothicform
July 6th, 2005, 03:27 AM
ive been saying it would start in the autumn for ages! grrr.

Cabman
July 6th, 2005, 03:29 AM
Is that a sexual grr or an angy one ?


Autumn? Is the site clear?

Britannia
July 6th, 2005, 11:08 AM
We've known it was going to start in Autumn for a while now... Ballymore said as much when it was granted consent. Also, Middlesex Street isn't in the City, it's City Fringe.

King's Reach was granted consent last night btw.

eddyk
July 6th, 2005, 11:46 AM
I thought it was granted ages ago.

When do you think we might see something happen on the tower?

Zenith
July 6th, 2005, 12:09 PM
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/9020705113850.jpg

Damn that looks sexy

Monkey
July 6th, 2005, 12:17 PM
This would stand just to the north of Minerva wouldn't it?

Cabman
July 6th, 2005, 12:58 PM
Top end of middlesex St near Spitalfields I believe

Britannia
July 6th, 2005, 01:59 PM
London 2012 Olympics... rock on!!

tommygunn
July 6th, 2005, 02:42 PM
:) i think this development summary is going to be added too.

Peyre
July 6th, 2005, 04:56 PM
wooooot! Millhabour starting in Autumm, London 2012, this just gets better and better. I'm off to gloat in the world forums.

Fragmentor
July 6th, 2005, 04:58 PM
happy gloating, that tower up there does indeed looks very sexable

london lad
July 6th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Quite a few new schemes on the new london architecture website including this 25 storey tower in Newham

http://************/6sds9k.jpg

http://www.tpbennettarchitects.co.uk/projects/woolwich_reach.asp?p=23&m=residential

And this 18 storey one in TH

http://************/6sdswl.jpg

http://www.stockwoolstencroft.com/

jimbo
July 8th, 2005, 09:39 AM
On what has been on of the most up and down weeks London and its residents have experienced in recent times, a small tidbit to raise a glass to:

From CityOffices.com

Ballymore to press on in Docklands
Following London's Olympic win, developer Ballymore has taken a full page advertisement in today's press highlighting its plans to build 3.5m sq ft of offices, by 2012, at Arrowhead Quay, Crossharbour, New Providence Wharf, Peninsula Reach and Wood Wharf in London's docklands.

If anyone has seen the ad in any of the broadsheets etc, confirmation would be great. Its fine news - 3.5m sq ft. Lawks. The East side of the Canary Wharf estate will look great with Arrowhead and Millharbour on the way up.

P.S - Hope everyone in London got home okay - for once, yesterday for a day for cyclists! :)

Jonny 5
July 8th, 2005, 11:51 AM
http://www.freemansnews.com/mainstory.asp?2942826

Liberty International unit gets consent for Southwark and London redevelopment project

LONDON (AFX) - Liberty International plc said its Capital & Counties unit has received consent from the London Borough of Southwark to redevelop King's Reach, an office, retail and residential complex on Stamford Street, London SE1.

The proposals for which consent has been granted will include the recladding of the existing tower and extension by a further four floors.

New retail units and cafes will be introduced, replacing the existing Milroy Walk shopping arcade.

The existing low rise office building will be replaced by a new "office village", with the replacement buildings capable of offering floor plates of up to 24,000 square feet, Liberty added.

Gherkin
July 8th, 2005, 02:10 PM
is this the one they are recladding in blue?

Ciudad Bristol
July 8th, 2005, 02:22 PM
yes, blue and black isn't it. Its starting in 2007 when the current tennants move out I think.

Jonny 5
July 8th, 2005, 02:22 PM
Yes it's this.
http://skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1431KingsReachTowerRebuild_pic1.jpg
Looks awful.

Gherkin
July 8th, 2005, 02:26 PM
yeah can't say I'm that keen on it really. It will age very quickly

eddyk
July 8th, 2005, 02:28 PM
But its better than what we have now, and It will had a bit of colour to the skyline I guess.

I just think that rendering isnt good enough.

nick_taylor
July 8th, 2005, 03:17 PM
Quite a few new schemes on the new london architecture website including this 25 storey tower in Newham

http://************/6sds9k.jpg

http://www.tpbennettarchitects.co.uk/projects/woolwich_reach.asp?p=23&m=residential

And this 18 storey one in TH

http://************/6sdswl.jpg

http://www.stockwoolstencroft.com/

:runaway:


Love that 18 storey tower. Especially if the actual balconies are coloured differently :yes:



From that Wharf Article posted earlier in the thread....
http://www.canarywharfnews.com/images/cw05p02e.gif

^^ This is what Millwall Dock should be developed into. Albeit with different shapes, heights and styles.

london lad
July 8th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Wheres Ballymores Penisula reach??

Pagwilliams
July 8th, 2005, 04:06 PM
Hmm - and where are the ones in Newham and TH? It nust be the Royal docks for Newham?? and I reckon the regents canal or limehouse cut in TH - any details??

Monkey
July 8th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Vote!!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=230624&page=1&pp=20
PLEASE

Fragmentor
July 9th, 2005, 10:21 AM
yep, were 7 votes ahead right now, an easy victory for Swiss Re me thinks

eddyk
July 9th, 2005, 11:04 AM
^
You say that....we were 3 votes behind yesterday.

eddyk
July 9th, 2005, 12:15 PM
Give London your vote...If you feel thats the right way to go ;)

London V New York....Projects

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=233028




.

birminghamculture
July 9th, 2005, 12:56 PM
WjFoxy you care to do a render of all major proposed towers on this picture. I think it would look amazing. Only if you are willing however.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/769LondonSkyscrapersfromArchway_pic1.jpg

P.S I dont care much for Birmingham construction at the moment. London is buzzing, Its amazing. and every single project is worthy of awards. Its fanatastic.

I love this.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/9020705113850.jpg

tommygunn
July 9th, 2005, 12:57 PM
so 1 millharbour is going ahead am i right in thinking they will be highest residential living space in europe when completed.

dronkula
July 9th, 2005, 01:05 PM
It'll be a race between 1 Millharbour and St Georges Wharf. St Georges Wharf is taller and is, I believe, also purely residential. But 1 Millharbour could be built first.

So, if it's up first, then yes 1 Millharbour will be, at least for a while, the tallest residential in Europe.

dronkula
July 9th, 2005, 01:07 PM
Incidentally...

In this 'Full Summary of Projects' thread, is this just for towers or for all major projects? If so, maybe mentioning that small thing they announced last week - something over in Stratford for some sort of sporting event, might also be worthwhile? (although Wembley and T5 don't seem to be listed either).

Monkey
July 9th, 2005, 02:08 PM
Incidentally...

In this 'Full Summary of Projects' thread, is this just for towers or for all major projects? If so, maybe mentioning that small thing they announced last week - something over in Stratford for some sort of sporting event, might also be worthwhile? (although Wembley and T5 don't seem to be listed either).
This thread is mainly for towers, but I made another thread for regeneration/infrastructure projects, which includes Stratford: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=113907

Britannia
July 9th, 2005, 04:18 PM
so 1 millharbour is going ahead am i right in thinking they will be highest residential living space in europe when completed.

No... Manchester's Beetham Tower will have higher living space. Malmo's Turning Torso is already Europe's tallest residential building and is taller than both 1 Millharbour and St George's Wharf.

Britannia
July 9th, 2005, 09:29 PM
Estates Gazette this week has an article on a triple-tower scheme that has been proposed for a site adjacent to the Olympic Park... called Lea Square, the scheme proposes three towers of 12, 17 and 27 storeys, which are designed to float 'like clouds' above a commercial base. They actually look quite nice - very soft shapes, rounded edges, quite funky. Architects are Atkins.

The Ice Cream Man
July 9th, 2005, 11:34 PM
Any renders?

eddyk
July 10th, 2005, 12:07 AM
WoodWharf

This is what I'm looking forward to...Our own little Arce building like whats at La Defense

London is project city at the moment...in a years time it'll be one of the biggest counstruction cities in the world.

gothicform
July 10th, 2005, 09:57 AM
jon, is lea square on wick lane?

Cabman
July 10th, 2005, 11:43 AM
Just a little imformation on the general Wick Lane area that will see unpresidented activity in the coming years.
There is already a "Leabank" Square in Berkshire Rd.
There are apartments already under construction in Wick Lane and vacant lots probably with planning permission.
Leases within the Olympic Park have been impossible to get for a couple of years except on the very shortest terms.
Leases on Roads Like Wick Lane have up to now been available only up to 2008.

Britannia
July 10th, 2005, 12:39 PM
The site is between the A11 and the Bow Back River... unfortunately the article doesn't say which authority the site is in, so I guess it could be either Tower Hamlets or Hackney.

gothicform
July 10th, 2005, 01:10 PM
theres also been a revised plan for another tower on stratford high street.
ill look on the plans for wick lane later and see if thats the one youre on about jon, they filed a previous application for three towers there that was utter crap.

london lad
July 10th, 2005, 02:46 PM
I saw the article in ES as well- but dont have a copy (sorry) does look very nice & gievs you some indication what to expect between now & 2012- developers scrambilng like crazy for sites in the area to build on- looks a bit like those towers proposed for Salfords Quay (but not as tall obviously).

There was anothe 27-29 storey tower, also curved for Royal Victoria docks but cant for the life of me find an info on it- it was in AJ some months back.

birminghamculture
July 11th, 2005, 03:12 PM
We need pictures, and a Devlopment Forum for London alone - Its the biggest city and doesnt have one.

Luke
July 11th, 2005, 07:49 PM
I think the main Projects and construction forum is the right place to keep London threads. Otherwise the main page will be dead.

Zenith
July 11th, 2005, 11:04 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/zenithvanguard/collage9copy.jpg

jef
July 12th, 2005, 09:50 AM
Hello guys, I am back from holidays. We all feel londoners and united against these islamic bastards (please do not confound with muslims). Be sure, they will either be brought to justice or exterminated.

Songbird Estates has confirmed to shareholders (05/07/2005) that the Riverside South scheme (Tower 1 & 2) is on the agenda for future development - in partnership with Richard Rogers - now that all issues related to s106 have been settled. All is needed is a major pre-let and they are committed to go ahead.

Good news, isn't it? London will soon have its "twin towers" as referred to by the BBC.

Monkey
July 12th, 2005, 10:52 AM
How much floorspace do they need to fill in the towers before they can start I wonder?

london lad
July 12th, 2005, 10:58 AM
Slight issue with that though- Like most of the towers in london- Theyall need pre-lets before they start doh!!!

BTW- walking past Heron Towr site the other day & the shop next to the travel agents has moved & as someone mentioned before it looks like they are doing some prepatory work around the site of some sorts- Lets hope More London build Nortons HQ in quick time so they can then get the hell out of there.

Also -whilst on the bus crossing Vauxhall bridge it looks like theres a pile driver on the site of where the Vauxhall tower will be- most of the rest of the developement looks almost done as well.

jef
July 12th, 2005, 12:19 PM
Slight issue with that though- Like most of the towers in london- Theyall need pre-lets before they start doh!!.

Not as slight as you may believe.

1. Songbird confirmed new lettings (Head of Terms were agreed upon last February) of about 250,000 sqft in the estate and a new unit has been set up to lease the remaining vacant spaces under highly flexible arrangements - in particular for small and medium firms. New large office spaces are required in the medium term to cope with demand from large corporates.

2. Songbird confirmed to shareholders that the Riverside development "marks the beginning of the next generation of building for CW" for corporates and they "are looking forward to continuing our excellent relationship with Lord Rogers and his team in developing this stunning riverside location".

There is a total floor area of 243,269 sqm (about 2,500,000 sqft), mainly grade A office space but with significant allocation of supporting retail space, including riverside restaurants and bars.

I believe tere is a good chance that this development will be the first one to be implemented in London because:

A. There is no longer large office spaces to accomodate major pre-lets in CW. As a result the remaining spaces will essentially be devoted to small and medium firms.

B. Songbird made it clear to shareholders this development will be the next one if a major pre-let is signed.

C. The site is vacant and all issues related to s106 have been solved out.

D. Olympics will bring about state of the art public transport, world class sporting facilities (aquatic centre, etc.) and parks, etc. that make the estate more attractive to corporates looking for a location in London or in Europe.

jef
July 12th, 2005, 12:33 PM
Here is the full story from http://www.canarywharf.com/mainFrm1.asp?strSelectedArea=News.

More importantly, a letter was sent to shareholders.

11 July 2005

FULL GO-AHEAD FOR CANARY WHARF’S RIVERSIDE SOUTH DEVELOPMENT



Tower Hamlets Council has granted planning permission to Canary Wharf Group for a major new 3 million sq. ft gross (approx) commercial office and retail development at Riverside South.

This permission follows review by both the Mayor of London and the Government Office for London.

The Riverside South scheme is proposed on the highest quality site remaining along the River Thames. Designed by the Richard Rogers Partnership, the scheme comprises two office towers - one to the north of the site and one to the south. The towers are respectively 194 and 220 metres above Ordnance Datum, with 28 and 34 office floors.

The towers will be linked by a lower building in the centre of the site, which has three enhanced height floors to facilitate trading operations and other special tenant requirements.

There will also be a significant retail presence, with shops and restaurants lining the entire riverside frontage at the lower ground level, opening on to a public pedestrian walkway. This will be the longest length of retail/leisure facilities anywhere along the river in London.

The planning application was granted subject to a Section 106 agreement valued at £20m. This amount is to include a community fund, a small park, public space and transport improvements among other benefits to local people.

George Iacobescu, Chief Executive, Canary Wharf Group said:

‘This landmark development marks the beginning of the next generation of buildings for Canary Wharf and we are looking forward to continuing our excellent relationship with Lord Rogers and his team in developing this stunning riverside location. We also appreciate the huge efforts of both the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and Canary Wharf teams over the last two years to achieve this result.’

Previous tower buildings at Canary Wharf were approved under the Enterprise Zone Scheme administered by the former London Docklands Development Corporation. This is the first full planning application from Canary Wharf for tower buildings and marks a new milestone as the estate matures.

The south tower will be the second highest in the Canary Wharf estate, after One Canada Square. Canary Wharf will look for a significant pre-let before construction of the development begins.

jef
July 12th, 2005, 12:43 PM
Another deals:

CWG has also completed deals on a further 60,000 sq ft on a short to medium-term basis with Morgan Stanley, EMEA, The Hartford, Clydesdale Bank and Global Sage.

Be positive guys, take it for granted London will soon have its twin towers.

jef
July 12th, 2005, 12:57 PM
Britannia, as you firm is working on that project, do you have any news on tenant hunting or any other valuable informations for us?

london lad
July 12th, 2005, 01:10 PM
I do actually agree with whats been said.RS will probably the first of the towers to go up due to the reasons given, the CW estate is filling up & there is no room for a big requirement for 1 firm. Im sure CW as well is actively seeking this & no doubt knows it needs to bag a big pre-let before any of the other towers get started.Its ready to go as soon as a pre-lets found but the point I was making is we simply dont know- It could be tomorrow, next month,next year.

We all know that the markets picking up & that is due to really steam ahaed i the next 18-24mths & would loe to see this go up sooner rather than later ;)

gothicform
July 12th, 2005, 04:25 PM
well if they get a big requirement of 1 million sq ft you can bet theyll go for riverside south which is why its already approved.

Manuel
July 12th, 2005, 06:09 PM
And the City will loose another big tenant that would have filled one of the many tower proposed.

This time its for a high quality development (RS), that's good.

Does someone know if RS will finally have a public space at the top ?

DarJoLe
July 12th, 2005, 06:18 PM
Does someone know if RS will finally have a public space at the top ?

Of course not.

potto
July 12th, 2005, 08:03 PM
And the City will loose another big tenant that would have filled one of the many tower proposed.

This time its for a high quality development (RS), that's good.

Does someone know if RS will finally have a public space at the top ?

they were high quality then Canary Wharf stripped them down to a couple of bulky boxes.. not convinced by the renders

Britannia
July 12th, 2005, 09:21 PM
Jef - we don't deal with letting the buildings, although obviously we'll be involved when they decide to build. I'm not concerned about the quality of Riverside South... it's a quality proposal and when built I think it'll be an impressive, monumental addition to the skyline.

CW is filling up (20 Canada Square is now fully let), but don't forget they still have 15 Canada Square (500,000sq ft) and BP2, BP3 and BP4, which although only 12 storeys, accommodate a fair amount of space. 20 Bank Street is also still empty, as is most of 40 Bank Street.

Their other major scheme, North Quay (which I'm less fond of), is going to committee recommended for approval on thursday.

London
July 12th, 2005, 10:42 PM
goodnews
-edit-

London
July 12th, 2005, 10:43 PM
I understand this is only a fantasy and therefore i would assume that it isnt to be taken seriousley with it scheduled to be complete by 2007. 300m tall to be the icon of the docklands called Nightsky.
http://skyscraperpage.com/graphics/dotclear.gif

Pagwilliams
July 13th, 2005, 10:43 AM
what's Nightsky?

Monkey
July 13th, 2005, 11:00 AM
I understand this is only a fantasy and therefore i would assume that it isnt to be taken seriousley with it scheduled to be complete by 2007. 300m tall to be the icon of the docklands called Nightsky.
http://skyscraperpage.com/graphics/dotclear.gif
I've just realised you're talking about the diagram on SSP.
Er... Nightsky is the name of the illustrator, not the tower.

Jonny 5
July 13th, 2005, 11:17 AM
Duh............

SSP has Fantasy Towers as well as real buildings.
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?11678419

London
July 13th, 2005, 02:50 PM
Ooops! my bad, its called Firalia Tower! it was late at night, cut me sum slack!
''SSP has Fantasy Towers as well as real buildings.''
Was that directed to me? Yeh jonny, er... i already discoverd that... thanks.

Jonny 5
July 13th, 2005, 02:57 PM
Fantasy = made up by the person who drew it.
It isn't a Vision design made by a real architect like these. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?11680189

Why did you even bring it up. A 300m tower would never be built in Canary Wharf.

London
July 13th, 2005, 03:14 PM
Well since i never took the time to find that out, jonny, i wouldnt have known. But now i doo, it wont happen again, k. its a shame that the airport is dreadfully close to the cluster.

gothicform
July 13th, 2005, 04:17 PM
40 bank street is about 40% full. isnt 20 bank street let to morgan stanley?

Mikey
July 13th, 2005, 05:39 PM
Their other major scheme, North Quay (which I'm less fond of), is going to committee recommended for approval on thursday.

How come there is no mention of this on the TH website... :?

Britannia
July 13th, 2005, 05:52 PM
It's going to the Strategic Development committee...

Mikey
July 13th, 2005, 06:01 PM
^ Oh thats why :) ps. did you get my email re Curry??

NothingBetterToDo
July 14th, 2005, 12:14 AM
The riverside south towers look nice enough in the renderings....but i would bet any money that when they are built the cladding will look very 1960/70's like many of the other new buildings in CW....i think they will be a dissapointment, unfortunatly.

jef
July 14th, 2005, 09:58 AM
I think this is news. The Times reported this morning that British Waterways appointed the Richard Rogers Partnership to design Wood Wharf, an eight-hectare (19-acre) site in London’s Docklands.

jef
July 14th, 2005, 10:02 AM
Ballymore updated its webpage of Wood Wharf. Its is said:

The development of Wood Wharf marks the last phase in the creation of the Canary Wharf estate. Ballymore, working alongside both Canary Wharf PLC and British Waterways will create a truly impressive new addition to London’s whole Olympic quarter, incorporating 400sq metres of office space, 1500 residential apartments and 15,000sq ft of retail space.

Well, 400 sqm of office space (4500 sqft), that is indeed truly impressive. It will take decades to fill in that huge amount of space.

jef
July 14th, 2005, 10:03 AM
Ballymore updated its webpage of Wood Wharf. Its is said:

"The development of Wood Wharf marks the last phase in the creation of the Canary Wharf estate. Ballymore, working alongside both Canary Wharf PLC and British Waterways will create a truly impressive new addition to London’s whole Olympic quarter, incorporating 400sq metres of office space, 1500 residential apartments and 15,000sq ft of retail space."

Well, 400 sqm of office space (4500 sqft), that is indeed truly impressive. It will take decades to fill in that huge amount of space.

jef
July 14th, 2005, 10:05 AM
i do not understand, what about the 40 seconds rule?

jef
July 14th, 2005, 10:14 AM
ESTATE TO PROVE IT'S MORE THAN A TOWER OF STRENGTH Jul 14 2005

http://icthewharf.icnetwork.co.uk/thisweek/news/tm_objectid=15732812%26method=full%26siteid=71670%26headline=estate%2dto%2dprove%2dit%2ds%2dmore%2dthan%2da%2dtower%2dof%2dstrength-name_page.html

Schemes to boost Wharf

By Renato Castello


CANARY Wharf's towering ambitions are being boosted with plans for a new office complex for North Quay in what is being billed as the start of the estate's ``new generation'' of buildings. Canary Wharf Group (CWG) has lodged plans with Tower Hamlets Council for an office block north of One Canada Square and next to the Marriott Hotel which, when completed, will be the group's second tallest building on the estate.

The North Quay development will feature two towers, of 221metres and 209m respectively, linked by a 125m central building.

The UK's tallest building - One Canada Square, home of The Wharf - measures 235m.

The North Quay development will provide an extra 372,000sq m of office space and will be linked to West India Dock by a pedestrian bridge. CWG isalso expected to contribute £20.35 million under the scheme for community projects, public transport and affordable housing.

Tower Hamlets Council's strategic development committee will consider the application at its inaugural meeting today (Thursday, July 14).

CWG lodged the plans shortly after securing full planning permission for its twin office towers at Riverside South on one of the highest quality sites remaining on the Thames.

The Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, and the Government Office for London gave the 194m and 220m linked towers the nod last week. The scheme will feature the longest length of retail and leisure facilitiesanywhere along the river in London.

CWG chief executive George Iacobescu said the development marked the beginning of the ``next generation'' of buildings.

``We appreciate the huge efforts of the borough of Tower Hamlets and Canary Wharf teams of the last two years to achieve this result,'' he said. The building is unique as it is the first project that CWG has had to apply for full planning planning approval.

Previous tower buildings were approved under the Enterprise Zone Scheme, which was administered by the former London Docklands Development Corporation.

Construction on Riverside South will start once a head tenant is secured

lyonsdown
July 14th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Here is the full story from http://www.canarywharf.com/mainFrm1.asp?strSelectedArea=News.

More importantly, a letter was sent to shareholders.

11 July 2005

FULL GO-AHEAD FOR CANARY WHARF’S RIVERSIDE SOUTH DEVELOPMENT



Tower Hamlets Council has granted planning permission to Canary Wharf Group for a major new 3 million sq. ft gross (approx) commercial office and retail development at Riverside South.

This permission follows review by both the Mayor of London and the Government Office for London.

The Riverside South scheme is proposed on the highest quality site remaining along the River Thames. Designed by the Richard Rogers Partnership, the scheme comprises two office towers - one to the north of the site and one to the south. The towers are respectively 194 and 220 metres above Ordnance Datum, with 28 and 34 office floors.

The towers will be linked by a lower building in the centre of the site, which has three enhanced height floors to facilitate trading operations and other special tenant requirements.

There will also be a significant retail presence, with shops and restaurants lining the entire riverside frontage at the lower ground level, opening on to a public pedestrian walkway. This will be the longest length of retail/leisure facilities anywhere along the river in London.

The planning application was granted subject to a Section 106 agreement valued at £20m. This amount is to include a community fund, a small park, public space and transport improvements among other benefits to local people.

George Iacobescu, Chief Executive, Canary Wharf Group said:

‘This landmark development marks the beginning of the next generation of buildings for Canary Wharf and we are looking forward to continuing our excellent relationship with Lord Rogers and his team in developing this stunning riverside location. We also appreciate the huge efforts of both the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and Canary Wharf teams over the last two years to achieve this result.’

Previous tower buildings at Canary Wharf were approved under the Enterprise Zone Scheme administered by the former London Docklands Development Corporation. This is the first full planning application from Canary Wharf for tower buildings and marks a new milestone as the estate matures.

The south tower will be the second highest in the Canary Wharf estate, after One Canada Square. Canary Wharf will look for a significant pre-let before construction of the development begins.

This number of floors can't be right surely!! that would make them each about 20ft tall.

Britannia
July 14th, 2005, 10:33 AM
The Wharf got the height of One Canada Square right! I think I'm going to faint...

Lyonsdown, those heights are AOD. Check Emporis or ssnews for the correct figures.

london lad
July 14th, 2005, 10:41 AM
Does anybody think that Ballymore will revise there Arrowhead Quay scheme- It seems to be the forgotten scheme as its had planning for at least 5yrs now & Ballymore seems to be pushing ahead with NPW & Millharbour first & i'd imagine they would start on Wood Wharf after that. I wonder what CW &Ballymore will prioritise as they have a fair few schemes ready to go now even before Wood Wharf.

Hopefully they will revise the scheme as RS & Heron Quays West (when that finally materialises), 40 Marsh Wall etc are all taller so there is scope to go higher on the Arrowhead Quay site.

london lad
July 14th, 2005, 10:44 AM
Actually forget to ask- Has the Designs for NQ changed since we last saw them as IMO it looks rather messy- the towers are alright (if a little bland-but hey its CW) but the middle bit seemed to be put there just to maximise the amount of floor space-

jef
July 14th, 2005, 10:45 AM
I do not believe they will revise the height of Arrowhead Quay. It is already a massive project and I do not believe it is located in the appropriate area for height increase.

jef
July 14th, 2005, 10:47 AM
Anybody to post the pics of the NQ scheme to be submitted today?

mulattokid
July 14th, 2005, 12:40 PM
The floors for the Riverside South Towers are 38 and 44, not those quoted there.

Monkey
July 14th, 2005, 12:49 PM
^ Yeah, I thought it sounded wrong. 28 storeys for a 194m building... no way.
It would need floor-to-ceiling heights of about 7 metres (23ft) !

Manuel
July 14th, 2005, 01:24 PM
One of the concept models drawn by RRP
http://www.richardrogers.co.uk/Asp/uploadedFiles/image/3410_Canary%20Riverside/conception/Pages_from_Planning_&_Origi.jpg

Monkey
July 14th, 2005, 01:30 PM
^ That would have been such an awesome design... why oh why did they have to change it? :(

jef
July 14th, 2005, 01:35 PM
I prefer the actual design.

Jonny 5
July 14th, 2005, 01:40 PM
Shame they didn't go with them, those look ace.

jef
July 14th, 2005, 02:02 PM
But there are going with them! There are now fully approved.

Jonny 5
July 14th, 2005, 02:19 PM
I ment the design above.

jef
July 14th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Another bit of news:

According to Knight Frank preliminary Q2 office market report, overall take-up in City was up to 2.6 million sqft in Q2 compared to 2.1 million sq ft in Q1 (23% increase) whereas availability is down again to 25 million sq ft compared to 28.4 a year ago. And KF to conclude: “Over the course of Q3 and Q4 05, we anticipate there will be more pressure at the top end of the market for larger floorplates which could be in short supply.”

gothicform
July 14th, 2005, 04:22 PM
good news that for minerva and so on

Accura4Matalan
July 14th, 2005, 04:25 PM
^ That would have been such an awesome design... why oh why did they have to change it? :(
I agree. They could've been the best scrapers in London.

Peyre
July 14th, 2005, 05:32 PM
yeh, really like those originals but the current designs aren't too shaby either.

JDRS
July 14th, 2005, 07:30 PM
One of the concept models drawn by RRP
http://www.richardrogers.co.uk/Asp/uploadedFiles/image/3410_Canary%20Riverside/conception/Pages_from_Planning_&_Origi.jpg

Fuck me! They're great. Would be perfect if they were taller and more slender but otherwise far better than the current design.

DarJoLe
July 14th, 2005, 09:35 PM
Look like something you'd find in La Defense which bare no relation to the rest of Canary Wharf.

Prefer what we're getting to be honest.

Britannia
July 15th, 2005, 01:03 AM
Exactly... as buildings they're nice, but in context they're wrong.

jimbo
July 16th, 2005, 09:25 PM
Went to the New London Architecture show today - excellent stuff, great that's its permanent and will be updated as proposals come out and get built etc. A few shot (rather crap to be frank), but gives you a feel for the presentation and models etc.

Good to see North Quay factored into the Canary Wharf image, not sure we've seen such a render before. interesting that it doesn't include Columbus.

Lots Road Master Plan
http://img311.echo.cx/img311/8762/img01166sd.jpg

All the main city schemes.... Leadenhall, Minerva, Broadgate
http://img311.echo.cx/img311/8598/img01177zd.jpg

Southwark with Bankside 123, Palestra and most intriguingly Wilkinson Eyre and Beetham marked on. Expect an annoucement on Beetham this month team!
http://img311.echo.cx/img311/5971/img01186zh.jpg

http://img311.echo.cx/img311/5898/img01191xn.jpg

http://img311.echo.cx/img311/1117/img01208oe.jpg

Canary Wharf with Riverside South and North Quay included.
http://img311.echo.cx/img311/8638/img01212yg.jpg

Mac
July 17th, 2005, 05:54 PM
I may have missed it, but i dont see Columbus tower anywhere...is that a bad sign?

wjfox
July 17th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Columbus Tower isn't actually a part of the Canary Wharf Estate... it's a separate development which lies just a few metres outside. That might explain why it's excluded.

capslock
July 17th, 2005, 08:35 PM
It's curious the way the Wilkinson Eyre tower is named after the architects on that board. None of the others are. Anyone know why that might be?

gothicform
July 17th, 2005, 09:10 PM
because i believe wilkinson eyre submitted it to the exhibition. whats the tower on the right of bishopsgate tower here -
http://img311.echo.cx/img311/8598/img01177zd.jpg

jimbo
July 17th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Good question.... i couldn't tell, but suspect that as all the usual suspects are inevidence save one, perhaps the Heron Plaza? There weren't any labels which was a bit annoying.

Starscraper
July 17th, 2005, 10:23 PM
When does this expo finish. Will it still be on in the 1st week in August?

EDIT, This the permanent expo isn't it? Isn't there also another one that has a big Bishopsgate Tower model in it?


Also that unknown building in the picture to the right of Bishopsgate seems to have a larger tower jutting into the lefthand side of the picture. Could the lefthand one be Heron and the right one Heron Plaza?

jimbo
July 17th, 2005, 10:31 PM
When does this expo finish. Will it still be on in the 1st week in August?

EDIT, This the permanent expo isn't it? Isn't there also another one that has a big Bishopsgate Tower model in it?

Yep - the Bishopsgate Tower exhibition is only on for 2 weeks and finishes next Friday. Its in Crosby Court (i.e., the actual site of the proposed tower). A couple of photos on the DIFA thread old bean.

The Changing Face of London exhibition (the map) is permanent. I'd hope that the other bits get updated as plans come on stream and the developments actually get, well, developed.

highly recommend it - just off Tottenham Court Road - nearest tube is Goodge Street.

london lad
July 17th, 2005, 11:28 PM
starsrcaper- your right it is heron to the left & Heron Plaza to the right- it does look quite big (think its around 100m).

Does anyone know how North Quay got on at committee on Thursday?? approved or not??

gothicform
July 17th, 2005, 11:35 PM
approved

Gherkin
July 17th, 2005, 11:35 PM
Yep NQ got approved! Canary Wharf is 'fighting back' against the city's new proposals according to emporis.com

london lad
July 18th, 2005, 12:33 PM
Beetham have updated there website for anyone of interest

http://www.thebeethamorganization.com/

london lad
July 18th, 2005, 12:39 PM
That Minories site is huge- It also says they have appointed of Foreign Office Architects for the 1m sq ft site- interesting

DarJoLe
July 18th, 2005, 01:08 PM
1 Blackfriars Road, London SE1
Having acquired this prime site from Sainsburys against considerable competition, only the most ambitious of proposals will provide a worthy solution. Working with internationally-renowned, award-winning practice, Ian Simpson Architects and a full team of the very best consultants in the UK, Beetham are committed to producing their most spectacular development to date. Initial proposals will be released in July 2005 following statutory and public consultations. Our proposals for this important South Bank location will undoubtedly be noticed internationally and the development will offer unparalleled views across London’s West End, Midtown, City and beyond.

Minories Estate, London EC3
Having acquired the freehold of a 5 acre site close to the heart of The City, Beetham have selected Alejandro Zaera-Polo of Foreign Office Architects who was judged on his imaginative and ambitious approach. On such an important site the challenge is to deliver in excess of 1 million sq ft of the highest quality office space designed to meet the changing needs of 21st century occupiers.

wjfox
July 18th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Minories will be a groundscraper, no doubt about it. Five acres is a massive site, which could easily contain 1m sq ft inside 10-15 floors. In any case, it's too close to the Tower of London and Tower Bridge for anything majorly tall.

Looking forward to seeing 1 Blackfriars later this month, although I hope it won't over-dominate that part of the skyline. If it's going to be 200m, then it needs to be a slim and elegant design that's very sensitive to its location.

wjfox
July 18th, 2005, 01:49 PM
http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/beetham/1.jpg




http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/beetham/2.jpg




http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/beetham/3.jpg




http://************/9086bq.jpg

jef
July 18th, 2005, 01:50 PM
Yep NQ got approved! Canary Wharf is 'fighting back' against the city's new proposals according to emporis.com

I think this approval is conditional upon a series of issues raised by the Mayor that need to be solved out. It is also reported that PP is valid for 10 years.

jef
July 18th, 2005, 01:57 PM
http://www.freemansnews.com/mainstory.asp?2956289

Increased banking activity brings cheer to city office market

Article 2956289
PRW - Monday, July 18, 2005

Increased banking activity brings cheer to city office market

Banks are starting to re-emerge as key players in the City of London property market, according to research by property consultancy Atisreal.

According to the company’s latest London office market report, the last quarter saw an encouraging increase in activity from the financial sector, with HVB and Royal Bank of Scotland taking space totalling 340,000 sq ft. Further deals are expected from UBS, Lloyds TSB and Sumitomo Bank.

The findings are in line with a survey conducted by Atisreal in January, which questioned key decision makers in over 40 London-based banks. The results prompted Atisreal to predict a 29% rise in City office take-up over each of the next three years

Dan Bayley, Director of City office agency at Atisreal, says: “This quarter it appears that the banks are starting to come back, following several key lettings, demonstrating that the major financial players are increasing their requirements for the first time in four years.

“Our forecasts for the financial and business services sector are looking good, and we expect demand in the City to strengthen further during the next 12 to 18 months.”

Overall City take-up in Q2 was 1.56 million sq ft (145,000 m²), a healthy improvement on the 1.2 million sq ft (111,000 m²) achieved in Q1.

In the West End, take-up in Q2 reached 759,000 sq ft (71,000 m²), meaning that half-year take up was comparable to the previous year. Lack of development is likely to lead to a fall in available supply, which should lead to rental uplift at the end of the year, according to Atisreal.

Midtown take-up dropped slightly to 265,800 sq ft (24,700 m²), but this is still close to the five-year average. With good levels of lettings, supply has fallen, with the vacancy rate dropping to 10%.

In the Docklands, take-up reached 263,160 sq ft (24,450 m²), slightly below levels for the same period last year. With Canary Wharf’s ‘put’ option space being marketed at generous discounts, rents are coming under pressure.

wjfox
July 18th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Great news for the City :cheers:

Cabman
July 18th, 2005, 03:06 PM
Good news overall for the office market. How long will it be before the RBS consolidates some of it's office requirements under the roof of one landmark tower?
Surely canary wharf will soon have to start on more buildings as all it seems to be offering at the moment is part lets rather than offering entire buildings to the big corperates.

jef
July 18th, 2005, 03:17 PM
and according to EGi Harbert Real Estate is to let Swiss Re office. Can anybody access the full story?

Mikey
July 18th, 2005, 04:45 PM
Looking forward to seeing 1 Blackfriars later this month, although I hope it won't over-dominate that part of the skyline. If it's going to be 200m, then it needs to be a slim and elegant design that's very sensitive to its location.

Humm, over dominate.... the tower is going to be bloody huge! taller than everything currently in London except @ CW ;)

Jonny 5
July 18th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Way too tall for that site. And I don't like the idea of that mini cluster stepping up towards the river.
It'll block part ofthe view from the London Eye to the City of London. :cry:

I hope they some sort of public observation room at the top if it is going to be that high. Imagine taking a panorama from up there. :yes:

potto
July 18th, 2005, 05:14 PM
Looking forward to seeing 1 Blackfriars later this month, although I hope it won't over-dominate that part of the skyline. If it's going to be 200m, then it needs to be a slim and elegant design that's very sensitive to its location.

I agree it needs to be elegant but that area of London seriously needs dominating. The river edge is very bulked up with large bland ground scrapers (check the FT building and the awful building opposite recently turned into flats) most do nothing for the river edge. From Waterloo up to Tate Modern the buildings attempt to, but never quite make a cluster.

There are no historical street layouts with the normal human scale to protect or iconic buildings to give breathing space to. When walking along the South Bank rarely do you think of wandering further south as the scene soon disintegrates into a nothingness, a couple of super-talls wont sort that out overnight but they will help to bring the over-bulky river front back into scale

Mikey
July 18th, 2005, 05:17 PM
Viewing platform.....surely not ;)

gleegie
July 18th, 2005, 08:06 PM
Don't think I've seen these before. The tower could be 35 storey's.
http://www.reidarchitecture.com/cms/images/residential/large/castle.jpg

Three quays
http://www.reidarchitecture.com/cms/images/residential/large/ra_residential_build3.jpg

www.reidarchitecture.com

Fragmentor
July 19th, 2005, 08:19 AM
ive seen those before, cant remember what its called though..

Mikey
July 19th, 2005, 01:56 PM
top one is Elephant and Castle.... not sure if its part of the master plan though

gothicform
July 19th, 2005, 06:09 PM
it appears to be right outside it. can anyone place it further than that?

DarJoLe
July 19th, 2005, 06:16 PM
it appears to be right outside it. can anyone place it further than that?

Kennington?

DarJoLe
July 19th, 2005, 06:20 PM
That proposal for the Thames-side building by the Tower of London is residential.

Ghastly.

gothicform
July 19th, 2005, 06:55 PM
well what does the writing on the beige block in the foreground say? it looks tome like the tower is off walworth road.

Jonny 5
July 19th, 2005, 08:24 PM
The beige building is Stanhope House, it says T. Clarke on it. It is on Walworth Road.

I tried e-mailing them about this project a month ago and got no reply.

gothicform
July 19th, 2005, 08:30 PM
ill drop them a line myself jonny and see if i get any luck. im amazed i remembered walworth road, ive only been to elephant and castle once.

Britannia
July 19th, 2005, 11:33 PM
The tower is Castle House in the E&C masterplan, but that scheme isn't being taken forward.

The low-rise building is Three Quays.

LondonerUpNorth
July 20th, 2005, 01:30 AM
My Dad's met the guy in charge of the E&C project who said the mid-rise building directly left of Castle House was going to be demolished (it's quite disgusting) but the residents love it and so they're keeping it. Also the school that they were planning isn't going to be built because the area doesn't need any more schools and instead they're looking at building a Civic building like a town hall or library. The low/mid-rise on the far right of the picture which sticks out of the shopping centre is going, it's used by the civil service at the moment and they're relocating soon. Also, they haven't been giving out long term holds on the hegate estate flats for some time now so when they're ready to start demolishing/re-building, it should all go pretty fast.
It sounds like the project is moving at some pace now so (hopefully) we'll see construction soon. We can only hope though, as so many E&C masterplans have fallen through.

Cabman
July 20th, 2005, 03:09 AM
That tower is located where Newington Butts and Walworth Rd split south of the lower roundabout.

jef
July 20th, 2005, 09:51 AM
Now for Europe’s highest residential tower? Beetham Organisation, a family-owned property company from Liverpool, is drawing up plans to build Europe’s highest residential tower just south of Blackfriars Bridge. The company has already built residential skyscrapers in Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham often with a hotel on the lower floors. It bought the former J Sainsbury headquarters in Stamford Street last November in a deal worth £48m. The 60+ storey tower would vie with two other office tower proposals- the so-called Shard of Glass at London Bridge and Difa’s Bishopsgate Tower (see above). However even though the City is approving a new string of tower developments the planning authority for this scheme would be Lambeth. As far as office towers concerned developers are waiting to see if the London office market recovers. As is well known there are similar problems (see below) in the housing market although residential towers, with stunning views, gyms, concierge services and parking, may be immune from the wider pressures. Financial Times 30.06.05

The following stories has already been posted

Concerns about unsold Docklands flats; analysts have expressed concern that three residential developers in Docklands are sitting on nearly £80m of luxury flats as sales across the country continue to dry up. In total there are 109 unsold flats in Number One West India Quay, 41 Millharbour and Discovery Dock. The schemes went on the market three years ago. One analyst said that, “Nearly £80m of stock in such a small area will call into question the viability of anything new going up”. Estates Gazette 25.06.05

jef
July 20th, 2005, 09:53 AM
Oups, sorry, too early in the morning. I try again. Nothing really new.
http://www.gle.co.uk/onelondon/Gvine.htm

Now for Europe’s highest residential tower?

Beetham Organisation, a family-owned property company from Liverpool, is drawing up plans to build Europe’s highest residential tower just south of Blackfriars Bridge. The company has already built residential skyscrapers in Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham often with a hotel on the lower floors. It bought the former J Sainsbury headquarters in Stamford Street last November in a deal worth £48m. The 60+ storey tower would vie with two other office tower proposals- the so-called Shard of Glass at London Bridge and Difa’s Bishopsgate Tower (see above). However even though the City is approving a new string of tower developments the planning authority for this scheme would be Lambeth. As far as office towers concerned developers are waiting to see if the London office market recovers. As is well known there are similar problems (see below) in the housing market although residential towers, with stunning views, gyms, concierge services and parking, may be immune from the wider pressures. Financial Times 30.06.05

Concerns about unsold Docklands flats

Analysts have expressed concern that three residential developers in Docklands are sitting on nearly £80m of luxury flats as sales across the country continue to dry up. In total there are 109 unsold flats in Number One West India Quay, 41 Millharbour and Discovery Dock. The schemes went on the market three years ago. One analyst said that, “Nearly £80m of stock in such a small area will call into question the viability of anything new going up”. Estates Gazette 25.06.05

“City needs the boost of the Helter-Skelter”;

An editorial in the Estates Gazette says that “wow” is an inadequate word to describe the 1,000ft tower unveiled by the German fund manager Difa to be built in Bishopsgate. The shimmering Kohn Pedersen Fox design with its helter-skelter profile and its snakeskin cladding makes the nearby Tower 42 look like a blackened tree stump – and British Land’s proposed “Cheesegrater” on the other side will be merely a supporting player to what will be the City’s pinnacle for perhaps half a century. Although it acknowledges that finding a significant prelet that would allow the development to start will be difficult especially as there are two other towers being planned but the alluring design of the so-called Helter-Skelter will have its own magnetism. The Estates Gazette says that after 20 years of being drained of life by Canary Wharf the City needs the boost of the proposed Difa tower. Estates Gazette 25.06.05

Cabman
July 20th, 2005, 11:38 AM
"Gherkin"
"Helter Skelter"
"Cheesegrater"

Hopefully London is developing a fondness for scrapers and giving them pet names, rather than London getting a freaky skyline.
Now we don't want some architect coming up with a cylinder tower and sticking a bell shape crown on it do we?

Pagwilliams
July 20th, 2005, 03:24 PM
I thought 1 West India Quay had all sold except for the penthouses - which have only just been launched?

gothicform
July 20th, 2005, 04:05 PM
i apologise for the pet names, two are my fault. lol. ok, had i not come up with "helter skelter" someone else would have...

Jonny 5
July 21st, 2005, 10:51 PM
ill drop them a line myself jonny and see if i get any luck. im amazed i remembered walworth road, ive only been to elephant and castle once.


I just got a reply from them.

But they sent me info about a skyscraper in Madrid that been designed by Pei Cobb Freed......... :doh: :doh: :doh:

jef
July 22nd, 2005, 10:09 AM
Songbird Estates set out an announcement on July 19 2005 indicating that its subsidiary Canary Wharf Group plc secured planning permission for the major development at North Quay (4 million sqft of mainly Grade A office space). As you all know, this announcement follows the previously announced planning permission for 3 million development at RS.

The good news is that they now report that "Construction of these sites will only commence on a pre-let basis or once current vacant space on the Estate has been significantly let".

They have always made it clear in previous announcements that construction will only begin if major pre-let(s) are secured. However, because they are filling up vacant space in the Estate and given the time needed to build the scheme, they are likely to begin construction anytime soon.

I told you so: RS is likely to be the first major skyscrapers since Churchill Plc to be built in London. Hope they will start within the year to come.

jef
July 22nd, 2005, 11:59 AM
Another news:

- KPMG is searching for approximately 46,500 sqm (500,000 sq ft) of office space in London

- Bank of America has 5,600 sq m of space under offer at 5 CS (60,000 sq ft) and BP has 4,370 sq m under offer (50,000 sq ft) at 20 CS.

Mikey
July 22nd, 2005, 07:29 PM
^ I think you might well be right, they need to think carefully as if a large firm snaps up alot of there remaining space.... they will have nothing ready :)

gothicform
July 23rd, 2005, 05:56 PM
please let kpmg take minerva. :)

Peyre
July 23rd, 2005, 06:14 PM
Yup, that would be the perfect tennant :)

wjfox
July 23rd, 2005, 06:18 PM
Centre Point up for sale

Centre Point, the Richard Seifert designed skyscraper, on Tottenham Court Road, London, W1, has been put on the market by its owners, a consortium of Deutsche Bank, Europa Capital Partners and Apollo Real Estate Advisors, for about £80m. The 35-storey 16,257 sq m (175,000 sq ft) tower, now listed, was built in 1964 and became a symbol of the worst excesses of the property development industry at the time.

CityOffices.net



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/centrepoint1.jpg



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/centrepoint4.jpg

Zim Flyer
July 23rd, 2005, 06:23 PM
Centre Point up for sale

Centre Point, the Richard Seifert designed skyscraper, on Tottenham Court Road, London, W1, has been put on the market by its owners, a consortium of Deutsche Bank, Europa Capital Partners and Apollo Real Estate Advisors, for about £80m. The 35-storey 16,257 sq m (175,000 sq ft) tower, now listed, was built in 1964 and became a symbol of the worst excesses of the property development industry at the time.


It's not my cup of tea, but I've seen far worse buildings from the 1960's.

clarky
July 23rd, 2005, 06:54 PM
Very nice building centre point still one of my favorite London scrapers.

Medo
July 23rd, 2005, 08:24 PM
Certre Point is nice but the surrounding area at ground level is shit :puke:

JDRS
July 23rd, 2005, 08:37 PM
I really like centre point now. Used to think it was an ugly 60's scraper but from seeing it on here I was grwoing to like it and when I saw it for real last week after coming out of tottenham court road station I was amazed by it.

Britannia
July 24th, 2005, 05:13 PM
The best news would be if PWC took something like 40 Bank Street or Cardinal Place, so they could vacate Southwark Towers asap!

Jonny 5
July 24th, 2005, 07:09 PM
I think most of the office space in Cardinal Place has already been snapped up by P&O.

Britannia
July 24th, 2005, 10:37 PM
P&O and 3i have taken the small first phase... the large 2nd phase 11-storey block doesn't yet have any tenants.

potto
July 25th, 2005, 01:28 AM
Certre Point is nice but the surrounding area at ground level is shit :puke:

It has a cultish status but the open-wound it left in the surrounding streets has still not healed. For this reason I can not like it

Medo
July 25th, 2005, 02:12 AM
/\I feel sorry for the poor bewildered tourists who get trapped between traffic as they try to cross the road :ohno:

Peyre
July 25th, 2005, 12:27 PM
knew it would start to fill up.

jef
July 25th, 2005, 12:27 PM
From daily telegraph: full story at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2005/07/25/cngerk25.xml&menuId=242&sSheet=/money/2005/07/25/ixcity.html

Landmark status lures US firms to the Gherkin
By Selina Mills

NORMAN Foster's London landmark, the Swiss Re Tower, has two new potential tenants with US law firms Kirkland & Ellis and Hunton & Williams believed to be negotiating for floor space.

Peyre
July 25th, 2005, 12:28 PM
damn clocks ave gone funny again.

Ciudad Bristol
July 25th, 2005, 01:22 PM
In today's Telegraph it says that the US law firms Kirkland & Ellis and Hunton & Williams are believed to be negotiating for floor space in Swiss Re and are close to signign a deal. It didnt say how much floor space they require.

jef
July 25th, 2005, 01:34 PM
Moscow Federation Complex is going ahead with a Chinese construction firm being appointed and numerous tenants lining up.

It is too quiet in London.

maggie
July 27th, 2005, 12:29 AM
Centre Point up for sale

Centre Point, the Richard Seifert designed skyscraper, on Tottenham Court Road, London, W1, has been put on the market by its owners, a consortium of Deutsche Bank, Europa Capital Partners and Apollo Real Estate Advisors, for about £80m. The 35-storey 16,257 sq m (175,000 sq ft) tower, now listed, was built in 1964 and became a symbol of the worst excesses of the property development industry at the time.

CityOffices.net




http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/centrepoint1.jpg



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/centrepoint4.jpg
its a great buliding given the era it was built but lets hope the new owners do something to improve it at stréet level. it really is embarrasing

London
July 27th, 2005, 12:44 AM
so how comes tenants are lining up in Moscow, when we got plenty floor space on da way too? is i price

London
July 27th, 2005, 12:44 AM
so how comes tenants are lining up in Moscow, when we got plenty floor space on da way too? is i price?

London
July 27th, 2005, 12:45 AM
so how comes tenants are lining up in Moscow, when we got plenty floor space on da way too?

Britannia
July 27th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Maybe because Moscow and London are different cities in different countries on different continents? Entirely different circumstances.

Zenith
July 27th, 2005, 07:39 PM
its a great buliding given the era it was built but lets hope the new owners do something to improve it at stréet level. it really is embarrasing

I hate the ground level of that area, bloody disgusting ! Really really bad...

London
July 27th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Maybe because Moscow and London are different cities in different countries on different continents? Entirely different circumstances.
since when? :crazy2:

jef
July 28th, 2005, 04:41 PM
The final go-ahead for 1 Millharbour is now secured - Lovels has negociated with LBTH a complex s106 planning agreement on Ballymore's behalve.

maggie
July 29th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Maybe because Moscow and London are different cities in different countries on different continents? Entirely different circumstances.
hmm different countries yes, but same continent, its easy to forget gioven that russia is the size of a continent

maggie
July 29th, 2005, 12:26 AM
well, some of it anyway

jef
July 29th, 2005, 10:50 AM
Is the London Development Agency (LDA) finally taking up the Palestra scheme ? Why is then "ThinkLondon" moving to CW? Do anybody know how much space they are taking?

jef
July 29th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Swiss Re 30 st Mary Axe: 56,000 sq ft under offer to Kirkland and Ellis and 19,000 sq ft under offer to Allianz.

Canary Wharf: Head of Terms signed with BP for another 47,000 sq ft at 20 Canada Square and 60,000 sq ft with Bank of America at 5 Canada Square.

wjfox
July 29th, 2005, 04:34 PM
Swiss Re 30 st Mary Axe: 56,000 sq ft under offer to Kirkland and Ellis and 19,000 sq ft under offer to Allianz.
That's about one-third of the remaining floors if I'm not mistaken. Great news.



Canary Wharf: Head of Terms signed with BP for another 47,000 sq ft at 20 Canada Square and 60,000 sq ft with Bank of America at 5 Canada Square.
I think you're right about RS and the towers will be starting fairly soon. CW seems to be doing incredibly well at the moment.

Fragmentor
July 31st, 2005, 10:51 AM
I didn't know Centre Point was a listed building...

jef
August 1st, 2005, 12:25 PM
The latest headline from EGi is "Continued demand for City development sites". I can't access the full story. Can anybody with online access tell us whether there is anything new in the City reg. proposed skyscrapers?

jef
August 3rd, 2005, 11:41 AM
I can't access anymore the london bridge tower website. Maintenance, update ?

http://www.londonbridgetower.co.uk

wjfox
August 3rd, 2005, 11:43 AM
Works fine for me. :)

Ciudad Bristol
August 3rd, 2005, 12:45 PM
Eight bids have been received for Centre Point which was put up for sale earlier this month.

Fragmentor
August 4th, 2005, 09:59 AM
yeah, well it's in a prime location, any idea who those bids were from?

jef
August 4th, 2005, 10:32 AM
04 August 2005
MINERVA ANNOUNCES THE SALE OF SAMPSON HOUSE AND LUDGATE HOUSE FOR £229 MILLION

http://www.minervaplc.co.uk/news/story.jsp?id=690

Minerva plc today announces that, in a linked transaction, it has completed the sale of Sampson House for £150.5 million and Ludgate House for £78.5 million to a private investor, both properties are located in London SE1.

Sampson House comprises 386,288sq.ft. of office space let to IBM UK Limited. The lease expires in December 2025 but, includes a mutual break clause in June 2018. The current rent is £8 million p.a. and will rise to £9.5 million p.a. in December this year.

Ludgate House comprises 173,633sq.ft. and is let to United Business Media plc at £4.87million p.a. The lease expires in March 2015 with a landlord’s break clause in 2010.

The combined sale represents a net yield of 5.9% after the purchasers’s costs, which assumes the contracted rent payable of £9.5 million p.a. on Sampson House in December 2005.

The consideration has been paid in cash and the proceeds will be utilised to re-pay associated debt and for general corporate purposes.

Salmaan Hasan, Chief Executive of Minerva, said:

“In the last four months we have entered into agreements for the sale of £634 million of property, effectively resulting in a significant reduction in our gearing to a nominal level. The total value of these sales is overall slightly ahead of our last published year end valuation figures for these properties as at 30th June 2004. With the substantial cash that these disposals have generated along with the arrangements in respect of The Walbrook and Park Place, I believe that the company is well set to deliver future growth for shareholders”.

Shares are up by 2.3% to 289p at the opening.

london lad
August 4th, 2005, 08:36 PM
Not sure if its been mention but Helical Bar 18 storey Mitre Square scheme got full planning permission the other week. Alright ,if a little dull Sheppard Robson office block- Bit of a wasted opportunity IMO as its near Minerva & could go taller.

wjfox
August 4th, 2005, 09:42 PM
It's #12 on the map below. Almost directly between SwissRe (J) and Minerva (10) when viewed from the South Bank.

Height will be 80m/19 storeys btw, and they've confirmed that construction will start in 2006. :)



http://www.skyscrapernews.com/city_development_map.jpg

wjfox
August 4th, 2005, 10:15 PM
This is the only rendering I can find of it.


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Britannia
August 4th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Not sure if its been mention but Helical Bar 18 storey Mitre Square scheme got full planning permission the other week. Alright ,if a little dull Sheppard Robson office block- Bit of a wasted opportunity IMO as its near Minerva & could go taller.

Yes, it was consented in the same committee as 201 Bishopsgate. They couldn't have gone taller due to light constraints... they've effectively put as much floorspace and height on there as they possibly could. The site is also next door to a school, so there are some fairly unique and important overriding considerations.

DarJoLe
August 4th, 2005, 11:10 PM
The current building is nothing special, but then neither is this.

I really hope they acknowledge in that square that this was host to a Jack The Ripper murder.

Pagwilliams
August 5th, 2005, 01:43 AM
I know what you mean, but lets face it - the council will never celebrate a mass murderer. He was real - it's not like he's some middle ages legend! It just aint gonna happen!

gothicform
August 5th, 2005, 03:10 PM
actually there's a thing about him in the councils museum of london. i agree they should have something to market each spot as jack the ripper is easily one of the most famous things this country has produced. we have blue plaques for cultural things, how about red ones for famous murders like his and crippen :)

DarJoLe
August 5th, 2005, 04:45 PM
There's website somewhere that has all the sites with photos of what is currently there today.

Ah - here it is

http://www.casebook.org/victorian_london/sitepics.w-mitre.html

Oh. Great. Another cobbled square gone from London.

Peyre
August 5th, 2005, 06:05 PM
ah yes, well its a little boring, I remember it now, theres a school right near it I think. But yes a plaque on a fountain or something as part of integrated public space would be good.

london lad
August 6th, 2005, 12:51 AM
28 storey resi tower for wembley

http://www.london.gov.uk/mayor/planning_decisions/strategic_dev/2005/may1105/copland_school_report.pdf

london lad
August 6th, 2005, 02:20 PM
This isn't a tall one but it will add to the moderncluster at the western end of london wall- This is a redevlopment of an 1980's type building

whats proposed
http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/frame.php?seite=intro&proj_id=undefined&flashversion=5

http://************/a2ccyb.gif

As it is now
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=256171

wjfox
August 6th, 2005, 02:40 PM
They're going to demolish 200 Aldersgate Street?? That's quite a prominent landmark on the City skyline.

Oh well, its replacement seems to look better from that pic you've shown above. :)

london lad
August 6th, 2005, 02:54 PM
I dont think its gonna be demolished just remodelled- I notice dp9 are the planning consultant ,(who Brit works for I think) so maybe he'll have better idea.

Nothing special but I prefer it to whats there at the mo. Those gold balls at the tops of the present building are very 80's & very naff- bit like the gold trinkets on sea containers house next to the OXO buidling on the south bank (which I do hope gets remodelled/demolished as well)

Jonny 5
August 6th, 2005, 02:58 PM
OMG are they really redeveoping 200 Aldersgate Street??? That was only completed in 1992!!!

Looks like it's about 95m, you can see the original roof/cores from the current design in the middle of the new design.

NothingBetterToDo
August 6th, 2005, 03:57 PM
thank god they are redeveloping its....its horrible....so 1980's naff. Good riddance.

Luke
August 6th, 2005, 04:27 PM
Leave that building alone! It may not exactly be a gem, but there aren't that many examples of 1980's architecture. We should try and kep a mix of buildings around and not replace everything with the millennium strand of corporate box.

Fragmentor
August 7th, 2005, 10:30 AM
yeah but if it's shit no body wants to look at it...

Jonny 5
August 7th, 2005, 10:41 AM
The new design looks very bulky for something so close to St Pauls.

DarJoLe
August 7th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Might as well demolish the entire of the city and replace it with glass and steel buildings at the rate these are being proposed.

I honestly think the number of them should start to be limited.

Mikey
August 7th, 2005, 12:25 PM
Yeah I dont see the point in demolishing a decent looking 90's building and replacing it with something of simillar size. London looks better with a mixture of old and new.

Jonny 5
August 7th, 2005, 12:48 PM
It would only add 8000sqft to the building. Hardly any point in remodeling it if thats all it's going to add.

gothicform
August 7th, 2005, 04:29 PM
yeah exactly jonny. looks like a feasibility thing to me, not a serious plan.

wjfox
August 8th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Spot the new addition to the London diagram...

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?12105730

My 2nd diagram for SSP. :)

Jonny 5
August 8th, 2005, 10:59 PM
What program are you using to draw Will?

Your drawings are kinda fuzzy, maybe it's just a resizing problem.
I use Ms Paint and I get cleaner drawings with that.

Madman
August 8th, 2005, 11:43 PM
Who is Ian G, his diagrams look amazing!

wjfox
August 9th, 2005, 10:09 AM
I'm using Paint but there seems to be a problem when I save as a GIF, it loses colour information and becomes slightly grainy.

Jonny 5
August 9th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Are you saving as gif with Paint? Paint is hopeless at saving gifs

Use Irfanview to save your gif images.
http://www.irfanview.com/

potto
August 9th, 2005, 01:18 PM
I think this is an interesting way to view the buildings, although they are out of context, gone are the absurdly wide angle lens and the strangely invisible glass cladding.

When viewing the models from Bishopsgate to Leadenhall there is over-riding feel of quality architecture able to provide interest and awe but remaining tasteful... from Minerva to 25 Canada Sq the buildings do not inspire and they ooze corporate greed... there is almost a perfect horizontal line along the flat roof tops

DarJoLe
August 9th, 2005, 01:53 PM
What the hell is Suffolk House?

Peyre
August 9th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like a mini Minerva.

wjfox
August 9th, 2005, 02:33 PM
It's one of the Croydon towers that was proposed recently.

Jonny 5
August 9th, 2005, 04:01 PM
What the hell is Suffolk House?

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/92335suffolkhouse_pic1.jpg http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/905.jpg

Medo
August 9th, 2005, 04:51 PM
looks like an interesting design

wjfox
August 12th, 2005, 08:23 PM
Architect Piano pushes on with Shard of Glass

By Caroline Brothers

BERN, Switzerland (Reuters) - Despite criticism and years of red-tape, Italian architect Renzo Piano, designer of some of the world's most iconic landmarks, is forging ahead with a London skyscraper known as the "Shard of Glass."

In a recent interview before the opening of another work -- a museum for the work of modernist artist Paul Klee in the shape of three waves in the Swiss city of Bern -- Piano said architects should not shy from taking risks.

"We have beaten Prince Charles, English Heritage and the nostalgics," Piano, regarded as one of the world's finest architects for his visionary and poetic designs, said of critics of his design for a colossal glass wedge over London's skyline.

"It's taking time, but we are doing it," he said of the much-delayed building that will contain a hotel, restaurants, and a viewing platform 787 feet in the air. The 72-story building at London's Tower Bridge, commissioned by developer Irvine Sellar in 2000, is due for completion by 2010.

The Genoa-born Piano, 67, shot to fame in 1977 with Paris' "inside-out" Pompidou Center co-designed with iconoclastic British architect Richard Rogers. The distinctive building has its pipes on the outside -- air conditioning ducts are blue, its water pipes are green and the electricity lines are yellow.

Piano, however, would not be drawn on his differences with Britain's Prince Charles, whose conservationist views have thrust him into headline-grabbing conflict with avant-garde architects such as himself, Rogers and Briton Norman Foster.

"In the analysis he is not bad, but he is very bad in his response -- and I can tell you that his mother agrees with me," Piano said. "You can't be nasty about modern medicine and as a consequence propose returning to the remedies of the 17th century. It's just not possible."

If his futuristic designs have sometimes brought controversy, Piano has never shied from taking artistic risks.

As well as the ground-breaking Pompidou Center, and an extraordinary cultural center for the Kanak people in New Caledonia, Piano designed the Kansai International Airport for the Japanese city of Osaka on an artificial island in the sea.

© Reuters 2005


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Butcher
August 13th, 2005, 12:06 AM
IS LBT going to be closer to London bridge or Tower Bridge?

Butcher
August 13th, 2005, 12:20 AM
I don't know if its just me, but I can't see many of the pictures on the first page

Jonny 5
August 13th, 2005, 01:11 AM
IS LBT going to be closer to London bridge or Tower Bridge?

I think there is a clue in the name...................

Butcher
August 13th, 2005, 01:25 AM
I think there is a clue in the name...................
lol...I know that sounded stupid, but I was referring to a part of Will's article:
"It's taking time, but we are doing it," he said of the much-delayed building that will contain a hotel, restaurants, and a viewing platform 787 feet in the air. The 72-story building at London's Tower Bridge, commissioned by developer Irvine Sellar in 2000, is due for completion by 2010.

Englishman
August 13th, 2005, 01:43 AM
Spot the new addition to the London diagram...

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?12105730

My 2nd diagram for SSP. :)
That diagram really shows what London may offer by 2012. Some of the finest in contemporary skyscrapers.

Still not sure they are quite Empire State of Crysler's but pretty close and the modern equivalent's maybe (except modern equivalents would be a couple of hundred metres higher)

Jonny 5
August 13th, 2005, 01:44 AM
I didn't spot that, thats pretty funny.

London
August 16th, 2005, 03:16 AM
Before you say anything... i was bored! Done it for fun, better than nothing. shows you what it could be like. worked with whats available. know ther not correct places n angles.
But ya gotta hand it to me... i am talented ;)
watch out wjfox, here comes me

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3101/1432/1600/City.jpg

London
August 16th, 2005, 03:22 AM
Or, have you ever wondrd what it'll be like if the docklands area was built in the square mile? No!

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3101/1432/1600/CANRY%20CITY.jpg