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Sarajka
July 3rd, 2005, 01:11 AM
I'm posting a thread about Sarajevo here in the World Forums so you all can see what our city is. :)

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The city of Sarajevo came into existence on the exact place whose center is the crossroads of East and West, of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, of Christianity and Islam, of Austrian boulevards and Ottoman shops, of modern skyscrapers and European squares...

The transition from East to West is more than a metaphor; in Sarajevo, it is reality. From the Ottoman East with it's magnificent mosques and Oriental architecture, through the Austrian Center with it's proud churches and European architecture, to the modern West with it's towering buildings and wide highways...

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DanielJ
July 5th, 2005, 04:31 AM
Gorgeous! Interesting how it reminds me vaguely of both Bucharest, Warsaw, and even Rome.

Medo
July 5th, 2005, 08:27 AM
very nice city :)

Khanabadosh
July 5th, 2005, 01:06 PM
Wonderful. Natural setting is georgous.

Allan
July 5th, 2005, 02:30 PM
beautiful

Finance Guy
July 5th, 2005, 10:09 PM
How much reconstruction did the city had to pass through????

Sarajka
July 6th, 2005, 02:11 AM
This should give you an idea, Finance. :)

Sarajevo, during/after the war:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1553/dc0088736bg.jpg

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Finance Guy
July 6th, 2005, 05:31 PM
That's insane. the first set of picture you displayed barely show any scare and but the latest one... How long did it take to rbuild the city like that???

Sonic from Padova
July 6th, 2005, 06:33 PM
my god!

Sarajka
July 6th, 2005, 09:29 PM
It's still ongoing. There has been very little aesthetic work completed. Every building still has bulletholes, etc. Any damage that doesn't affect the building's stability is still there.

The most important districts - Bascarsija and the rest of Stari Grad - have been completely rebuilt, painted, modernized, all of that. This began in 1996 and lasted until roughly 1998-1999.

Most of the major skyscrapers have been rebuilt, this is still ongoing as well. The Hotel Bristol, and the Parliament, are the only ones that come to mind that are still ruined, and a few commieblock groupings.

It's getting better but the city still shows a lot of damage. You just don't notice it anymore. It's only when I return from a vacation - the first 2 or 3 days I'm home I can't believe how much damage there still is. Then you forget about it.

space_invader
January 6th, 2006, 04:19 PM
such an amazingly beautiful city . . . .

will go there this year i hope.

skeleton of twin towers in first couple of pics a bove is scary.

very scary.

Mr Bricks
January 6th, 2006, 05:36 PM
very beatiful! How big is the city?

Troopchina
January 7th, 2006, 01:19 PM
Interesting differences going from the east to the west.
Some parts of the city (eastern and central) seem limited for further development due to the natural setting...

LordMarshall
January 7th, 2006, 10:32 PM
very beatiful! How big is the city?

Sarajevo is located close to the geometric center of the triangularly-shaped Bosnia and Herzegovina, and covers some 142 km²(88.2 mi²) of land. The core of the city is built in the Sarajevo valley (Also translated as Sarajevo field), a small depression 500 meters above sea level nestled in between the surrounding mountains. Although much of the city itself is relatively flat, some of the outskirts and far eastern parts are hilly. Neighborhoods in the old town in particular are well known for their steep streets and landscape.

LordMarshall
January 7th, 2006, 10:41 PM
Interesting differences going from the east to the west.
Some parts of the city (eastern and central) seem limited for further development due to the natural setting...

Development in those areas are also legally overseen. The eastern part is the old Ottoman part of the city and development there must follow surrounding architectural ambiance and height restrictions. Central part is filled with great examples of Austro-Hungarian architecture, so new developments have to fit in with this time period. Sarajevo has room to grow. It is in the suburbs and new town areas where most of the communist architecture can be found.

On these following sites you can see some of the developments that the city has planed for the following years.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=276039&page=1

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=273769&page=1&pp=20

triple-j
January 8th, 2006, 12:09 AM
that is one beautiful city especially the old ottoman and european areas. Since the city is in way of rebuilding itself how about inform us about the people and the economy. Thanks

LordMarshall
January 8th, 2006, 12:45 AM
that is one beautiful city especially the old ottoman and european areas. Since the city is in way of rebuilding itself how about inform us about the people and the economy. Thanks

Demographics:

Since no official census has been taken since 1991, the exact population of Sarajevo cannot be known. However, the latest estimates from the Sarajevo Canton government, dating from December 2002, are generally thought to be fairly accurate. They put the total population of the city of Sarajevo at 297,399 residents and the number of people in the greater Sarajevo region at 401,118. A more recent estimate for the greater Sarajevo area has the population in mid-2004 at 401,687.

According to the official government statistics, Sarajevo's population density is 2470.1 per square kilometer. The most densely populated part of Sarajevo is in the municipality Novo Sarajevo (7524.5 inhabitants per square kilometer), while the least densely populated is the Stari Grad municipality (742.5 inhabitants per square kilometer).

The largest ethnic group in Sarajevo are the Bosniaks; with more than 230,000 people, this group makes up 77.4 percent of the city. The second-largest group are the Serbs, of which there are some 35,000 (12 percent of the city). Croats are the third largest group, with a population of 22,380 (7.5 percent of the total). 9,283 people (3.1 percent of overall population) are classified as others. They most likely consist of Sephardic Jews, and Roma, along with a small number of foreign workers (mostly of Chinese and African backgrounds).

Economy:

Sarajevo is economically one of the strongest regions of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Like many other major cities, its economy is largely based on industries such as manufacturing and tourism. As the center of various levels of area politics, many Sarajevo citizens also work in government. A number of local and international companies are present in the city and contribute to its economic health.

Sarajevo's manufacturing deals with a wide array of products. This includes production of foods and beverages, textiles, furniture, automobiles, pharmaceuticals, and metalworking. Sarajevo companies also produce unique brands of alcohol, and cigarettes.

A variety of important economic institutions are to be found in Sarajevo. The central bank of Bosnia and Herzegovina is found in the city, as are numerous other independent banks. Overall 19 different banks have their headquarters in Sarajevo. The city also holds the Sarajevo Exchange of securities, the Institute for accounting and auditing of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Board for securities of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the Register of valuable papers of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Some major companies based in Sarajevo include Air Bosna (currently operating as BH Airlines), BH Telecom, Bosmal, Bosnalijek, CBS Bank, Dnevni Avaz, Energopetrol, Oslobodenje, Fabrika Duhana Sarajevo (Sarajevo Tobacco Factory), Sarajevska Pivara (Sarajevo Brewery), and Unioninvest. Foreign companies with a foothold in the Sarajevo region include Harris Communications, Brown & Root, Škoda Auto, and most notably, Coca Cola. The Bosnian-Malaysian firm Bosmal is also situated in the city

sadly the only english language site that talks about it is wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarajevo.

Ill look for charts and graphs later but this is basic info on what you asked. Sarajevo also is getting more FDI. This year an Austrian firm will invest 170 million euros in building a new hotel in the city, a 22 floor Grand Media Hotel and Convention Center. Also Malaysian company MBI Development is starting first phase of three phase development of the Gardens of Riverina a city within a city, expected to last 15 years at a cost of one billion euros.

LordMarshall
January 8th, 2006, 12:57 AM
Sarajevo Winter

http://www.buec.udel.edu/kmetzj/SGSB_webpage/Photos/Sarajevo%20snow.jpg

Engels
January 8th, 2006, 11:35 PM
Is it a safe place to visit as a tourist. Looks nice in the pictures but i hear that many parts of Bosnia are still no go areas... is that right?

LordMarshall
January 9th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Is it a safe place to visit as a tourist. Looks nice in the pictures but i hear that many parts of Bosnia are still no go areas... is that right?

It's as safe as it can be. The conflict has ended 10 years ago and there have been no major incidents since. Tourists are safe and welcome. You will face the same challenges as in any other transitional country; pick pockets and people trying to sell you something for more then its worth.

The only conceivable problem i can think off for tourist security is mined areas. But those areas are cordoned off and are clearly marked. Also these areas are not near the places where tourists go.

here are some websites for more tourist info:

http://www.bhtourism.ba/eng/

http://www.greenvisions.ba/gv/index.php?lang=2

http://www.sarajevo-tourism.com/eng/

Jack Rabbit Slim
January 11th, 2006, 09:04 PM
I love the look of that city, and I like how they arn't trying to over-modernise evrything and stick SS in just for the hell of it. It has a nice historical, local look to it, its a shame it got so badly damaged by the war, who knows what else they could have built with the reconstruction money, but I have to say, they did a dam fine job!

Good stuff :cheers:

JDRS
January 11th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Beautiful!

DrasQue
January 21st, 2006, 09:28 PM
good job!!!!!

samsonyuen
January 22nd, 2006, 05:13 PM
Beautiful city. How is it like London though?

BobDaBuilder
January 23rd, 2006, 01:15 AM
What is the name of that street where the Duke of Sarajevo was gunned down in 1914? Which turned out to be the spark that caused World War 1, which in turn caused World War 2, communism and linked to the rise of Al-quada. Al-quada would not exist without the Soviet Union invading Afghanistan in 1979 and therefore the rise of bin-Laden and chums.

The root cause is down a little side street in Sarajevo.

LordMarshall
January 23rd, 2006, 05:04 AM
Ah that’s an interesting take on history.

But the assassination of the Arch-Duke Franz Ferdinand the heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was the spark not the cause of World War 1.

WW1 was an attempt by the Central Powers to build Imperial dominions in a world that was already colonized by the Allied Powers. Resources, Power, Interconnected-Alliances, and geo-political position of Europe were the reasons for war.

As for the street here are some pics:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Assassination_of_Franz_Ferdinand.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Sarajevo11.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Princip_arrested.jpg

http://members.fortunecity.se/mikaelxii/ww1/sarajevo.jpg

Europa.
February 12th, 2007, 04:39 AM
sarajevo is actually a really important historical city with tons of histroy from the ottomans to the austro-hungarians, actually the city had settlement back in the B.C. periods

the spliff fairy
February 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM
that is one beutiful city, made all the more haunting by the tragedy it suffered. So many plots crammed into the graveyards for one.

Inkdaub
February 14th, 2007, 12:05 PM
Great looking town. One of the best pic threads I have ever seen. I'll have to add Sarajevo to my list of places overseas I'm going to move to.

connected_
February 15th, 2007, 02:33 AM
This is the Bosnia and Herzegovina parliament building during bombing from the war:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/56891996_b023e93e21_o.jpg

And this is the same building being reconstructed (with a new façade) now:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/BiHParliament.jpg


I think Sarajevo is an amazing city, and would love to visit some day!!

Simpl3_ccs
February 15th, 2007, 02:42 AM
Wonderful, beautiful and nice city !

zazo
February 15th, 2007, 07:42 PM
I haven't seen London there.........

the spliff fairy
February 16th, 2007, 05:16 PM
I think the London moniker stems from the modern buildings mixed with Ottoman (Istanbul) and baroque (Vienna).