SHALOM MY ISRAELI FRIEND :)

I have seen that Israeli cities have nice architecture and very modern buildings... But I have never seen sport complexes as Stadiums, indoor halls, pools, ect.. so far. Could you represent the sport comlexes of Israel?
(I have a special interest in them :cheers: )

My second question; Does Israel want to host any Olympic Games in the future?

Thanks :)

yes and i heard because we are very small country and we don't have area for it so we will build island for stadions etc.....

Tel Aviv hosts since the 1930's ,every 4 years, the world Jewish olympic games - the maccabia.

7,000 athletes , from doesens of countrys , opening ceramony ,50 olympic sports games in olympic class comittie approved facilities ,all that every 4 years.
on the 11/7 is the opening ceramony of the 17th World Maccabia games.

http://img142.echo.cx/img142/4572/img00657rk.jpg

http://img142.echo.cx/img142/4359/mevaker14ed.jpg

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http://img142.echo.cx/img142/9607/maccabiah160qk.jpg

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ALSO will come from Turkey.....(55 countries)

What is Maccabia? Who comes, jewish athlets of the other countries? What is the capacity of this Tel Aviv Stadium?

Maccabia is jewish olympiad! all jewish sportsmen come to Israel from 55 countries.....

it will in Ramat Gan i think (32,000)

soon we will post all pics and information about Maccabia!
(somebody saw "WELCOME GERMANY,HOLLAND,INDIA" IN AZRIELI BUILDING?VERY NICE)

Tedy Kolak stadium -Jerusalem 21,700 seats

http://img301.echo.cx/img301/6120/tedi80kq.jpg

http://img195.echo.cx/img195/9720/1921122437dq.jpg

http://img158.echo.cx/img158/1534/191217189mv.jpg

http://img190.echo.cx/img190/4774/tedi5rz.jpg

http://img175.echo.cx/img175/738/tedi47yr.jpg

also when i was in NATBAG came to Israel delegations from France,Germany,Australia and Holland!
so many from Australia......

Ramat Gan stadium (TA metro) 50,000 seats

http://img142.echo.cx/img142/4359/mevaker14ed.jpg

are u sure?????i think 32,000~

Bloomfield stadium TA-16,000 seats

http://img136.echo.cx/img136/3592/blumfield5fk.jpg

http://img125.echo.cx/img125/1871/bkumfild6lg.jpg

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http://img107.echo.cx/img107/8847/2872002bloomfield20stadium7kv.jpg

Tedy Kolak stadium -Jerusalem 21,700 seats

http://img301.echo.cx/img301/6120/tedi80kq.jpg

http://img195.echo.cx/img195/9720/1921122437dq.jpg

http://img158.echo.cx/img158/1534/191217189mv.jpg

http://img190.echo.cx/img190/4774/tedi5rz.jpg

http://img175.echo.cx/img175/738/tedi47yr.jpg
oh cool, really not bad. But as I see there is a traffic problem...

everywhere in Israel traffic problems...small city with big number of cars......

BTW, what is the meaning of the word Maccabia? I understood it is Jewish Games, but wondered the meaning of the word. Also, why do you need a Jewish games? Is it historical traditional or something like that?

Please forgive me for my ingorance and curiousity. And Thank you for your patience :)

Jehudah Maccabi fromhistory(he won greeks....)
why we need it?national unity.....

tennis center of Ramat Hasharon (TA metro)- 4,500 seats

http://img261.echo.cx/img261/6531/tennis4fn.jpg

Tell me more plz, Zohar, tonight you are tellng so less...

heheheh Kuvvaci ask i will answer:)

THE MACCABIAH GAMES

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The Maccabiah Games are quadrennial Jewish Olympics, held in Israel the year following the Olympic Games. Every four years, the best Jewish athletes from throughout the world compete in Open, Masters, Juniors, and Disabled competitions.

The Maccabiah is staged under the auspices of the Maccabi World Union (MWU), a worldwide youth and sports organization devoted to furthering Jewish identity and traditions through cultural, social, and educational activities. The MWU is headquartered in Israel.

The concept of the Maccabiah Games was the brainchild of 15-year old Russian-born Yosef Yekutieli. The Eretz Yisroel teenager so energized by news of the 1912 Olympic Games that he conceived the fanciful notion of a worldwide Olympics for Jewish athletes in Palestine. With little encouragement, and not a small amount of ridicule, Yekutieli spent the next ten years developing details of his unique idea.

In 1928, Yekutieli presented his far-fetched proposal to the Jewish National Fund, with the notion that the Maccabiah Games be organized to commemorate the 1800th anniversary of the Bar Kochba Rebellion (Jewish revolt against the Greeks). Coincidentally, the Maccabi organization was, at the same time, formulating ideas to provide a means of participation by athletes living in the British Mandate of Palestine in important international sporting events; one that would also act as a form of international recognition of Palestine as the Jewish National Home.

Yekutieli’s Maccabiada. as the Games were originally called, was the right idea at the right time. With the hechture of the Eretz Israel Soccer Association, other Holy Land sports groups fell in line to give the proposed Games their blessings. But approval of the ruling British Palestine High Commissioner was the final hurdle to realization.

In the Fall of 1931, Great Britain appointed Sir Arthur “Andy” Wauchope High Commissioner of Palestine. Contrary to previous High Commissioners, Sir Arthur admired the achievements of Zionist Palestine, including the burgeoning Jewish sports movement. The new High Commissioner gladly extended his patronage to the Maccabiada, on condition that it host Arab and official British Mandate athletes, as well as Jewish sportsmen. The Maccabiada was scheduled for March 1932.

With approval came the next conundrum: reaching the world Jewish community with news of this unique sports extravaganza. So, in a world absent television, the internet, significant radio, and common language print media, two delegations of Jewish motor-bikers set off from Tel Aviv on an epic promotional tour to the Jewish communities of Europe, where most Jews lived.

The first troupe of promoters hit the road in 1930, biking from Tel Aviv to Antwerp (Belgium). The second set of riders left Tel Aviv a year later for London. Yekutieli, himself, rode with one of the delegations.

On the second tour, May 10 to July 16 1931, the intrepid Maccabiah bikers covered 5,825 miles (9,375 kilometers). From Tel Aviv, they traveled across the Sinai desert through Cairo and Alexandria (Egypt); hopped a ship to Salonika (Greece); then on to Gorna, Sofia, (Bulgaria); Belgrade, Novy, Sad (Serbia), Osijek and Zagreb (Croatia)*; through Vienna and Linz (Austria) to Nuremburg and Frankfurt (Germany); through Metz to Paris (France); and by ferry to Brighton and the English cities of London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds; to Glasgow (Scotland); and then home via Beirut (Lebanon). Wherever they went, they announced the “Jewish Olympics”, the Maccabiah, taking place the following spring in Eretz Israel (the land of Israel). (*Bulgaria, Serbia and Croatia merged as Yugoslavia in 1929.)

The original Maccabiah was held March 28 to April 6, 1932. Its overwhelming success guaranteed its permanent future. Originally conceived as a quadrennial event, Maccabiah II was moved up a year to 1935 because of the rising tide of Nazism in Europe. The rumblings of World War II forced postponement of the third Maccabiah. The delay was 15 years. The Games were reborn in 1950 in the new State of Israel, and Maccabiah #4 was held in 1953. Thereafter, the Maccabiah established its current quadrennial formula, held the year following the Summer Olympic Games.

The Games today are organized by an International Maccabiah Committee and are sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee and World Federation of Sports.
The Maccabiah Games, ranking among the five largest sports gatherings in the world (in number of participants), are considered Regional Games by the International Olympic Committee.

For each participant, the Maccabiah Games are “two weeks to experience and a lifetime to remember.” For many, the Maccabiah is the athlete’s most significant connection to the State of Israel and for some, Judaism itself. For the young Open athlete, generally 16 to 23 years old and immersed in the machinations of high-level competition, connection with Jewish contemporaries from the far reaches of the world, in the land of Jewish roots, inspires an awakening of heritage.

While all Maccabiah matches, games, and races are keenly competitive, some events measure up to world-class competition. Numerous Olympic and national champions have sought Maccabiah gold, silver, and bronze medals. Among the Olympic gold medalists, world champions, and world record holders who have competed in the Maccabiah Games are Mark Spitz and Marilyn Ramenofsky (swimming); Debbie Lipman (diving); Mitch Gaylord, Abie Grossfeld, and Agnes Keleti (gymnastics); Larry Brown, Ernie Grun*feld, Danny Schayes, (coaches) Nat Holman and Dolph Schayes (basketball); Carina Benninga (field hockey); Lillian Copeland, Gerald Ashworth, and Gary Gubner (track and field); Angela Buxton, Julie Heldman, Allen Fox, and Dick Savitt (tennis); Angelica Rosenau (table tennis); Isaac Berger and Frank Spellman (weightlifting); and Fred Oberlander and Henry Wittenberg (wrestling).

What is the history of Jehuda Maccabi? Tell me the story...
When did this Maccbia games start first time?
Have you ever had such a sport games between Jews in the history?

thanx to hebrewtext.....

When did this Maccbia games start first time?
Have you ever had such a sport games between Jews in the history?

it's started in 1932...first jewish contest.......

What is the history of Jehuda Maccabi? Tell me the story...?

hebrewtext can u help me?

Judas Maccabeus

Judas Maccabeus (or Judah the Maccabee from the Hebrew: Yehudah HaMakabi) was the third son of the Jewish priest Mathathias. He led the Maccabean revolt against the Seleucid Empire (167-160 BC). His surname Maccabeus is from the Syriac word "maqqaba" (hammer), and this name was granted to him in recognition of his ferocity in battle.

In 175 BC, Antiochus IV Epiphanes assumed the emperorship of the Seleucid Empire and began a campaign of assimilation against the Jews in Palestine. In an effort to unify the Greek elements of his empire, Antiochus determined to destroy the Jewish faith and Hellenize the sons of Jacob. However, a priest from Modin, Mattathias, resisted assimilation and instigated a rebellion when he killed one of the emperor's officers. The resistance he started was to be nurtured and led by his son, who would go on to join Joshua, Gideon, and David as one of the greatest warriors in Jewish history.





The rise of Judas Maccabeus
Before the patriarch Mattathias died in 167 BC, he bestowed upon his sons John, Simon, Eleazar, and Jonathan the task of continuing the holy war he had started--with Judas at their head as military chief. Judas was able to recruit only a few hundred troops from among the Judean province early on. However, he effectively conducted a guerrilla war against Antiochus' troops, who were actively engaged in forcing Greek culture onto Judea.

After two years of small-scale, hit-and-run campaigning, the Maccabee faced a great challenge. Apollonius, the Seleucid governor of Judea and commander of its forces, decided to lead his army into the field to dispose of the Jewish rebels. Though Apollonius' army greatly outnumbered his own, Judas surprised the Syrians at Nahal el-Haramiah and completely crushed them. The Seleucid commander was killed in the battle.

After Nahal el-Haramiah, recruits flocked to the Jewish cause. But an even larger Syrian force loomed. Antiochus tasked another general, Seron, with suppressing the revolt. Seron, with twice as many men as his predecessor, entered Judea and attempted to march to the relief of the Seleucid garrison at Jerusalem. However, in an attack reminiscent of his battle against Apollonius, Judas surprised the enemy force at Beth-horon and sent it reeling into the countryside.

Antiochus sent yet a third expeditionary force into Judea under command of his viceroy, Lysias. However, the rebels turned back the Syrians again at the Battle of Emmaus.

Judas Maccabeus had, in two years, transformed from obscure son of a Modin priest, to great military captain. Recruits flocked to the cause in numbers like never before, and the people began to hail him as a savior of the people. The Maccabee continued to remind his men that they fought for God, family, and country.

The Restoration
Lysias, eager to avenge his defeat, again led an expedition into Judea, this time with the intention of working in tandem with the Seleucid forces in the Acra fortress at Jerusalem. However, the Seleucid general was again driven back by Judas' smaller army. After this campaign, the Jewish hero entered the Holy City and restored the Temple, which had been profaned by the pagan Seleucids. According to Jewish myth on the twenty-fifth day of Kislev in 164 BC, the Temple was re-dedicated. Supposedly, only one day's supply of oil was available to burn in the candelabrum and it miraculously lasted for eight days. Today, this event is commemorated by the festival of Hanukkah (also called the Festival of the Restoration).

Leaving the seemingly impregnable Acra in the hands of the Syrians, Judas turned his attention to relieving Jews throughout the countryside, who were being persecuted by enemy troops. After accomplishing this mission in 162 BC, Judas turned his attention back to the Acra, which remained a Seleucid bastion in the midst of the holiest of Jewish cities. Meanwhile, in Antioch, Lysias was vying for control of the empire with Philip, the regent appointed by Antiochus IV Epiphanes before the emperor's death in 164 BC. The Maccabee took advantage of this internal conflict and besieged the Acra with the hope that this power struggle would prevent Seleucid forces from taking the field against the Jews.

However, the spite that Lysias felt for Judas Maccabeus was greater than the spite he felt for Philip. The Seleucid general left Antioch with the largest field army yet seen in this conflict, and marched toward the Jewish force besieging the Acra. Not wanting to be hemmed in, Judas marched his army out to meet the enemy at Beth-zechariah. But, without the element of surprise, the small band of Jewish citizen-soldiers was no match for the numerically superior Syrian army. The Jews were forced to fall back to Jerusalem, where Lysias besieged them. However, Lysias received ominous news from the east. Philip was returning to Antioch after completing his latest military campaign and could assume the throne in Lysias' absence from the city. The general formulated a compromise to free him of his siege of Jerusalem: he granted the Jews religious freedom under the law. Judas agreed to this proposal, and Lysias hastened to Antioch.



Toward political independence
On the surface, it appeared that the sons of Mattathias had met with ultimate success. However, Judas only provisionally accepted the course of events. He insisted that religious liberty would not continue unabated without political independence and vowed to continue the war. In the meantime, Demetrius I, nephew of the late Antiochus IV Epiphanes, garnered popular support in Antioch, overthrew Lysias, and put him to death. He then ordered a renewed offensive against the Jews. Judas responded by waging guerrilla operation against the Syrians until the spring of 161 BC. The Maccabee then sent a diplomatic envoy to Rome to request formal recognition of the independent state of Judea. Rome complied. However, this simply stirred Demetrius to a new ardor for quashing what he still considered a rebellion. He ordered his army to march on Jerusalem in a campaign to subdue the troublesome Jews once and for all. Judas gave battle to a Syrian force of over 20,000 men at the Battle of Elasa. Finding himself enveloped by enemy troops, Judas Maccabeus fought hand-to-hand alongside his men--then died a warrior's death. The people mourned his loss and shouted, "How is the mighty one fallen, the Savior of Israel!"



The crusade realized
The death of the Maccabee stirred the Jews to renewed resistance. After several additional years of war, and under the leadership of two of Mattathias' other sons, the Jews finally achieved independence and the liberty to worship God as their fathers had.

In the Divine Comedy, Dante sees the spirit of Judas Maccabeus in the Heaven of Mars with the other "heroes of the true faith".

In 1746, the German composer George Frideric Handel commemorated the heroism of Judas Maccabeus in his oratorio of the same name.

soon new stadium in Netanya:)

THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, thank you very much... Both to Zohar and Hebrew Text...

BTW, I'd like to contnue seein the sport complexes at this page whenever you add anything. Somebody likes skyscrapers, I like modern sort complexes :) This is my special interest...

Yad Eliahu (Nokia) arena TA - 13,000 seats
hosts various indoor events and its the home arena of Maccabi Tel Aviv basketball team. (the final four games held here).

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/6582/arena017lm.jpg

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/8528/arena078vf.jpg

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Maccabi Tel Aviv - 2000
Sonnino arch. With Luca Zevi architect
Olympic Stadium,
Capacity 17000 seats
Area 60000 sq. m.

http://img197.echo.cx/img197/396/maccabi2011hg.jpg

http://img258.echo.cx/img258/8724/maccabi20ol.jpg

it's built?

OMG what is this? tell me more tell me more :D

in general Tel Aviv has plans to erect acomplete olympic villige in Hadar Yosef area. which consist today of the Hadar Yosef athletic stadium +open athletic arena +the tennis center+the new Rav sport complex (several indoor areanas)+the area of the parking lots among these facilities +the main Ramat Gan stadium across the Yarkon river.
but every thing takes time here and needs money.

http://img300.echo.cx/img300/6070/hadaryosef18oy.jpg

http://img300.echo.cx/img300/6781/hadaryosef23kf.jpg

the tennis courts area
http://img300.echo.cx/img300/9053/hadaryosef33jp.jpg

the athletics arenas
http://img300.echo.cx/img300/7329/hadaryosef44af.jpg

Ramat Gan stadium 50,000 seats
http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1641/hadaryosef56ff.jpg

the Meimadion-water park
http://img18.echo.cx/img18/5362/hadaryosef61wv.jpg

where is Hadar Yosef?

where is Hadar Yosef?

North-Eastern part of Tel-Aviv .

BTW, the 2005 Maccabiah is starting tomorrow evening .

2005 Maccabiah website
http://wmh.walla.co.il/archive/160553-18.jpg
(http://www.maccabiah17.com/)

This Maccabiah will be the biggest ever , with a record number of participants and Olympic medal holders .
All the events are free of charge .

Maccabi Tel Aviv - 2000
Sonnino arch. With Luca Zevi architect
Olympic Stadium,
Capacity 17000 seats
Area 60000 sq. m.

http://img197.echo.cx/img197/396/maccabi2011hg.jpg

http://img258.echo.cx/img258/8724/maccabi20ol.jpg
woooooooooooooooooow, what a design... It will be very big, enough capacity for Israel. Will it be the national Arena? I guess the roof will be glass by TIM (Transparant Instalation Material)... Right?

Tel Aviv has so big empty area for this project?

I personally like the arena in Jerusalem for basketball. We used to play in a run-down gym. Then we were able to play at the new arena. The floor and the backboards there are really good. I do not have a picture of it though.

Ramat Gan stadium (TA metro) 50,000 seats

http://img142.echo.cx/img142/4359/mevaker14ed.jpg

That’s wayyy off man, R-G stadium only holds just over 40,000, i went their a couple of times in 1999 and the stadium is absolute filth, shocking toilets, the concrete was eroding and its the worst place to watch football, espically if your sitting down the back, its too far from the playing field...Kirat Elizer stadium in Haifa has even worse facilities but is much closer to the field...The best Israeli soccer stadium would either be Blumfield in T"A or Tedi in Jerusalem, never been their, i hate Hapoel and Maccabi Tel Aviv ....... and as for Tedi......well that’s just to damn dangerous because their fans are INSANE!!!!

I am so happy that started this thread. so you could post many pictures... Thank you guys...

Israel should build more new stadiums!!!

Israel should demolish some old/shit stadiums and build new/better/modern stadiums!!!
Then it would be awesome for Israel!!!

Israel should build stadiums for:
Soccer
Rugby
Cricket
American Football
Track & Fields
Baseball

;)

I heard there was more than 40,000 people went to National Stadium in Ramat Gan for the Opening Cermony of Maccabiah 17th Games?!?
That's alot!!! I think Olympic last year held in Greece - about 50,000 people went to Athens Stadium for Opening Cermony of Olympic so thats not bad...
Maybe in 2009 there will be more than 65,000 people will attend for the Opening cermony of Maccabiah 18th Games at NEW STADIUM? :D

Kiryat Eli'ezer Stadium - Haifa

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/israel/haifa_eliezer.jpg
Capacity: 18,500

Vasermil Stadium - Beer Sheva

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/israel/beer_sheva_vasermil.jpg
Capacity: 13,000

new stadium in south Tel Aviv near Holon junction.
the project combined with office and commercial spaces.
will built over the soccer training fields of today.

http://img328.echo.cx/img328/4913/7ground5oq.jpg

http://img328.echo.cx/img328/7747/6section4ri.jpg

http://img329.echo.cx/img329/554/4facade9er.jpg

http://img348.echo.cx/img348/904/3persviewinner9um.jpg

GREAT NEWS!!! THANKS HEAPS :D!!!

Hope there's more other new stadiums!!!

By the way... When will that new stadium starts construction and when will be completed?

http://img142.echo.cx/img142/4572/img00657rk.jpg

is that the opening?

^^
No...

it is enough to look to understand that it is a starting ceremony of a CL match. Even babies can understand this very easily.

it is enough to look to understand that it is a starting ceremony of a CL match. Even babies can understand this very easily.


yes you can see the large ball symbol

-from the game of Maccabi Tel Aviv vs. Ajax Amsterdam

http://img329.echo.cx/img329/665/ramatgan0sj.jpg

I what part of Tel Aviv is Nokia Arena located, and off of what major highway(s) can you get to it?

I what part of Tel Aviv is Nokia Arena located, and off of what major highway(s) can you get to it?

The Nokia Arena is actually "Yad Eliyahu" Stadium, it changed it's name since Nokia started sponsoring it, but it's most people know it as "Yad-Eliyahu" .
it's locate on the eastern side of the Ayalon highway very close to the "La-Guardia" interchange, so yes it's very easy to get to . the problem is that it currently goes a massive renovation, so it's closed to the public, still you can sea the main hall from the outside since all of it's walls are gone :) and there's only the roof and supporting columns, the plan is to surround it with glass walls which will be really cool .

Before the renovation \/
http://telavivinf.com/prat/built/miv/hichal_yad_eli/pic6.jpg
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/israel/tel_aviv_nokia.jpg

After \/
http://telavivinf.com/prat/built/miv/hichal_yad_eli/pic7.jpg
http://telavivinf.com/prat/built/miv/hichal_yad_eli/pic8.jpg
http://telavivinf.com/prat/built/miv/hichal_yad_eli/pic9.jpg
http://telavivinf.com/prat/built/miv/hichal_yad_eli/pic10.jpg

That's great news!!! :okay:

@ TeLaVivi

When will this stadium renovation completed?

@ TeLaVivi

When will this stadium renovation completed?

The construction works are planned in 3 parts and will take place only during the league's summer vacations, so that the stadium could still be used during the rest of the year . it'll be completely finished at the 2007/8 game season.

it is enough to look to understand that it is a starting ceremony of a CL match. Even babies can understand this very easily.

Yea ur right lol sorry. i didnt realise the Bal was a uefa logo. i thought it was an israeli flag. Sorry

http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/607/picture165812pg.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

20 tennis courts
stadium, library, gym
built in 1982

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4989/untitled14gj1.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

opened in 2001, very good stadium.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8130/ashketonlighome3l4ff1nw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

That's alot!!! I think Olympic last year held in Greece - about 50,000 people went to Athens Stadium for Opening Cermony of Olympic so thats not bad...


Over 70,000 people were at the opening, including me.

32,000 seats
120 million NIS (30 Million dollars)
construction starting this year
will meet EUFA football standars.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/849/netanyastadiumt18027305kn011rm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

it's will also near my home:))))))))

my building is in the center of development:)

yes zohar we are doing our best to make all the construction as close to your home as possible :-)

heheheheh:))))))))))))))))))))
i forgot to say welcome:)

i will post pics soon....(when they will start)

also 5 18 floor highrises will be built instead of "The Box" - the old stadium.

they started....

Unfortunately, in some Eurpean leagues, the Israeli teams are unable to play their home games in Israel just b/c the other teams don't want to travel there in fear terrorism even if they are promised secuirty and a 24 hour surveilance. :(

then we shouldnt travel to madrid or lonfon or stokholm..
European cities have really become so dangerous lately also :)

While FIBA/FIFA teams make it hard to come to Israel due to fear, there are other athletes who are not scared to come here. It used to be common that the NBA's Miami Heat would come to Tel Aviv durring the preseason to have an exhibtion game against Maccabi Tel Aviv, and terrorism didn't prevent them, though the 1998 NBA lockout did stop a game there. When the WNBA had its offseason, there were numerous players who played on the Israeli teams, and nothing stopped them from comming. Just recently, Tiki Barber of the NY Giants (NFL) came to the West Bank for a soccer match between Israeli and Palestinian children. I find it ironic that European athletes are too scared to go to Israel to play on the road, while American athletes have no problems.

Europeans are too scared of everything.
They are morally degraded but view everyone else as less moral and humain than them

they forget:

A. They colonized the world and robbed it
B. They are the greatest murderers in wars ever
C. They introduced racism
D. They wiped out whole nations, including the Jews in the holocaust
and mayan civilization in south america
E. They used slaves and had a slave trade
F. They have double standards according to who they fear most at each point.
G. All europe is one big battle field full of blood, and they started all world wars.

While FIBA/FIFA teams make it hard to come to Israel due to fear, there are other athletes who are not scared to come here. It used to be common that the NBA's Miami Heat would come to Tel Aviv durring the preseason to have an exhibtion game against Maccabi Tel Aviv, and terrorism didn't prevent them, though the 1998 NBA lockout did stop a game there. When the WNBA had its offseason, there were numerous players who played on the Israeli teams, and nothing stopped them from comming. Just recently, Tiki Barber of the NY Giants (NFL) came to the West Bank for a soccer match between Israeli and Palestinian children. I find it ironic that European athletes are too scared to go to Israel to play on the road, while American athletes have no problems.

your wrong about FIFA Tal, FIFA have always let teams come to israel for world cup qualifiers and friendly’s, even in recent times during the conflict. UEFA on the other hand have been the pigs, For years they banned internationals in israel (both Euro qualifying and friendly’s), UEFA also banned club travel to israel for European club competitions, clubs like maccabi haifa had to play their home games in Nicosia during the champions league in 2002/2003 and in Turkey for the uefa cup for other years, hapoel petah tikva also once played "home" games in holland in the UEFA Cup. still to this day all UEFA internationals (club and country) have to be played in T"A, usually at ramat gan or blumfield.

UEFA is full of corruption and they get some money from
football clubs owned by rich arab sheikhs and arab companies
so the suck up to them.. notice how many clubs are wearing shirts
with "fly emirates", "qatar airlines" etc.

Nah, I don't think they're bribed - this is just too "conspiracy theory" for me.

Ha I hear Milan didnt want to do a training camp in LONDON
serves those damn bitish right!
they now have a taste of what we are going through,

I just wonder what Milan will say when the bombs hit Milan and Rome..
will they want to play in the Bahamas?
:)

why being so happy in their sadness? It certainly doesn't "serve those british right" - after all, noone is happy about seeing the innocent people die.

Now I know we're all upset that the british don't understand our realities, but this doesn't mean they have to be punished for it, or whatever.

Europeans are too scared of everything.
They are morally degraded but view everyone else as less moral and humain than them

they forget:

A. They colonized the world and robbed it
B. They are the greatest murderers in wars ever
C. They introduced racism
D. They wiped out whole nations, including the Jews in the holocaust
and mayan civilization in south america
E. They used slaves and had a slave trade
F. They have double standards according to who they fear most at each point.
G. All europe is one big battle field full of blood, and they started all world wars.
Excetly the truth... I can sign up under your post...

Bravo...

This is why I am against Turkish membership to the EU. I am so sad that we are candiate...

Europeans are too scared of everything.
They are morally degraded but view everyone else as less moral and humain than them

they forget:

A. They colonized the world and robbed it
B. They are the greatest murderers in wars ever
C. They introduced racism
D. They wiped out whole nations, including the Jews in the holocaust
and mayan civilization in south america
E. They used slaves and had a slave trade
F. They have double standards according to who they fear most at each point.
G. All europe is one big battle field full of blood, and they started all world wars.

I think that's not all. Latin alphabet would not be enough for all the clauses that could be mentioned here. Use numbers. :okay:

new stadium in south Tel Aviv near Holon junction.
the project combined with office and commercial spaces.
will built over the soccer training fields of today.

http://img328.echo.cx/img328/4913/7ground5oq.jpg

http://img328.echo.cx/img328/7747/6section4ri.jpg

http://img329.echo.cx/img329/554/4facade9er.jpg

http://img348.echo.cx/img348/904/3persviewinner9um.jpg


Holon :)
my hometown...

who is going to play in this stadium?
Where its going to be placed? Capacity?

tell me more!