[CHN] Chinese Expressways • 中国高速 [Archive] - Page 6

big-dog

March 29th, 2009, 08:40 AM

Zhaotong-Daibu expressway

Location: Yunnan Province
Length: 149km
Cost: 4.953 billion yuan
Bridges: 308
Opened: 12.18.2007

map
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Construction pics

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http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1715/1010120071010490.jpg http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2339/1010120071010489.jpg

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http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2953/1010120071010488.jpg http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9708/1010120071010487.jpg

(baidu.com)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 05:46 PM

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3264/1438631f5e2223b044bb05.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1438631f5e2223b044bb05.jpg)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 05:49 PM

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4084/image5.gif (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image5.gif)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 05:52 PM

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5723/27743334873046539640368.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27743334873046539640368.jpg)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 05:53 PM

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3351/20840240663964036895208.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20840240663964036895208.jpg)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 05:55 PM

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7611/1968454b8f9181b18840a.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1968454b8f9181b18840a.jpg)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 05:56 PM

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1859/a4bc29d9726ae02910df9b4.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a4bc29d9726ae02910df9b4.jpg)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 05:58 PM

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2921/2007931902971041.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007931902971041.jpg)

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 06:08 PM

01-01-1988 0
01-01-1989 147
01-01-1990 271
01-01-1991 522
01-01-1992 574
01-01-1993 652
01-01-1994 1145
01-01-1995 1603
01-01-1996 2141
01-01-1997 3422
01-01-1998 4771
01-01-1999 8733
01-01-2000 11605
01-01-2001 16314
01-01-2002 19453
01-01-2003 25200
01-01-2004 29800
01-01-2005 34300
01-01-2006 41005
01-01-2007 45339
01-01-2008 53913
01-01-2009 60346
01-01-2010 65000 (projected)

Verso

March 29th, 2009, 08:44 PM

What does "G" stand for?

ChrisZwolle

March 29th, 2009, 08:47 PM

"Gònghéguó"?

Verso

March 29th, 2009, 09:42 PM

Wtf is that? :D "Road"?

ChrisZwolle

March 29th, 2009, 09:43 PM

No, it's part of the full name of the PRC in Chinese.

But it's just a guess :)

Verso

March 29th, 2009, 09:46 PM

Isn't China "Zhongguo" (or sth like that)?

staff

March 29th, 2009, 10:23 PM

Zhong Guo is China (Middle Kingdom literally).

The full name of PRC is, Zhong Hua Ren Min Gong He Guo (中华人民共和国).

leo_sh

March 29th, 2009, 10:39 PM

"G" stands for "guojia" (state, nation, national).

BarbaricManchurian

March 29th, 2009, 10:53 PM

G = guo = 国 = country. Usually in Chinese one will say guo dao/ 国道（route name here), meaning national road. So when you see G103, for example, Chinese (Mandarin) will say guo dao yi ling san/ 国道一〇三, meaning National Road 103. Hope this clears things up :D.

squirrelq

March 29th, 2009, 11:09 PM

Since last year, they have been replacing old signs with new ones like the one in the picture (G30 is the east-west route from Lianyungang-Horgos, 4280km, also the longest route)

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5413/200810291448239126.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200810291448239126.jpg)

oliver999

March 30th, 2009, 02:40 AM

Verso

March 30th, 2009, 04:14 AM

Thanks for the answers, guys! :cheers:

null

March 30th, 2009, 04:27 AM

G= 国道 (Guodao)= National Highways

公路路线编号结构如下：
编号结构说明
G××× 国道G1××指首都放射线，G2××指北南纵线，
G3××指东西横线
S××× 省道S1××指省会（省府）放射线，S2××指北
南纵线，S3××指东西横线
X××× 县公路编号
Y××× 乡公路编号
Q××× 其他公路编号

big-dog

April 4th, 2009, 07:39 AM

Quanzhou-Sanming expressway opens

Length: 284.5km
Location: Fujian Province

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5549/65142089.jpg

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http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2797/44131051.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8287/99221646.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

April 4th, 2009, 07:43 AM

G6 Beijing-Tibet Linhe section opens

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1711/33260781.png

length: 53.155km
speed limit: 100kmph
cost: 2.1146 billion yuan
Location: inner mogolia
G6 inner mogolia section fully opens

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

April 4th, 2009, 07:50 AM

G50 Shanghai-Chongqing expressway

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9318/79629017.png

Shizhu-Zhongxian section opens

length: 80km
starts: 2005.3
Cost: 6.379 b

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http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3122/11618996.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1656/39022085.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

April 4th, 2009, 07:53 AM

China expressway construction status (3.25)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/752/91620090324230312v3usa.jpg

click here (http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15191618d3c21f1f754e2.jpg)for large map

(www.chinap-highway.com)

squirrelq

April 5th, 2009, 03:24 PM

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/433/1917236b1f16e09ea09d6b.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1917236b1f16e09ea09d6b.jpg)

squirrelq

April 5th, 2009, 03:25 PM

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6356/17069336861e200bcf6654e.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17069336861e200bcf6654e.jpg)

squirrelq

April 5th, 2009, 03:27 PM

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3784/2008631050491402.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008631050491402.jpg)

squirrelq

April 5th, 2009, 03:29 PM

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9505/gl1.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gl1.jpg)

squirrelq

April 5th, 2009, 03:30 PM

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9338/122904245402.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=122904245402.jpg)

UD2

April 6th, 2009, 07:09 PM

What does "G" stand for?

G stands for Guo, which translates into the Nation.

When used on road signs, the G would stand for National. Therefore, G20, would be National Highway number 20. These are the network of roads that served as China's the backbone for road transportation before the implementation of the expressway network.

squirrelq

April 6th, 2009, 08:28 PM

So, can anyone tell or translate to me what the text above G56 on the shield below is saying?
(This one is from the new piece Changde-Jishou).

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1760/03afaf22hq2.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03afaf22hq2.jpg)

Huhu

April 6th, 2009, 10:47 PM

^^ National Highway? National Express? My Chinese is garbage. :(

squirrelq

April 6th, 2009, 11:20 PM

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2179/32686200807181346161.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32686200807181346161.jpg)

squirrelq

April 6th, 2009, 11:22 PM

OK, in the States!!! At least something quite similar.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8082/i095sbexit03001.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i095sbexit03001.jpg)

Jiangwho

April 7th, 2009, 02:04 AM

Changde-Jishou Expressway
http://0745bbs.com/attachments/month_0903/20090303_1159308e466b6fa08f5fJ2HgDTRCZIMp.jpg

http://0745bbs.com/attachments/month_0903/20090303_03ff59b53204c7248bf0wSb1xGJPqgm1.jpg

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BarbaricManchurian

April 7th, 2009, 02:33 AM

BarbaricManchurian

April 7th, 2009, 02:36 AM

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2179/32686200807181346161.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32686200807181346161.jpg)

top: 南, pronounced Nan, meaning South.

Red: 国家高速, pronounced Guo Jia Gao Su, meaning National Expressway.

Bottom: 京沪高速, pronounced Jing Hu Gao Su, meaning Beijing-Shanghai Expressway (京/Jing is a shortened way to say Beijing, and 沪/Hu is a shortened way to say Shanghai).

oliver999

April 9th, 2009, 05:27 AM

in china, "highway" = "expressway".

H123Laci

April 9th, 2009, 08:23 AM

china.flb (gps map file) could be fucking big... :lol:

hungary's national road network is 30.000 km (motorways, main roads and local roads)

compare it to china's 60.000km motorway network... :lol:

H123Laci

April 9th, 2009, 08:28 AM

top: 南, pronounced Nan, meaning South.

Red: 国家高速, pronounced Guo Jia Gao Su, meaning National Expressway.

Bottom: 京沪高速, pronounced Jing Hu Gao Su, meaning Beijing-Shanghai Expressway

its amazing how can one decode these hieroglyphics... :lol:

Huhu

April 9th, 2009, 09:05 AM

EDITED

H123Laci

April 9th, 2009, 09:25 AM

^^ maybe I was not clear... :)

I wanted to say: its amazing that china has twice as many motorways as hungary's all kind of national roads...

Huhu

April 9th, 2009, 09:28 AM

maybe I was not clear... :)

I wanted to say: its amazing that china has twice as many motorways as hungary's all kind of national roads...
Lol I misunderstood you, thanks for clearing that up. :)

panda80

April 9th, 2009, 09:51 AM

china.flb (gps map file) could be fucking big... :lol:

isn't it .fbl?

H123Laci

April 9th, 2009, 10:08 AM

^^ oops, yes, it is... :)

antovador

April 12th, 2009, 01:57 PM

Red: 国家高速, pronounced Guo Jia Gao Su, meaning National Expressway.

Great pics however the red part writing is useless a color code or a specific sign form would be better IMO.

squirrelq

April 21st, 2009, 10:47 PM

Created in a moment of absolute boredom but worthwhile looking at...:nuts:

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1410/prognosis2030.jpg (http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prognosis2030.jpg)

squirrelq

April 21st, 2009, 10:52 PM

FYI:
The horizontal axis is time in years, the vertical is km of expressways/freeways/motorways.

big-dog

April 22nd, 2009, 06:58 AM

^^ nice chart but I think China's expressway growth will slow after 2012. So both US and China's expressway length are likely to keep at the 90k KM level by 2020 and onwards.

The Cebuano Exultor

April 22nd, 2009, 11:42 AM

^^ That 90,000-kilometer-long plan for PRC's National Trunkline Network is old. The latest plan calls for a 120,000-kilometer network.

ChrisZwolle

April 22nd, 2009, 12:19 PM

It seems logical that China will have a larger freeway network than the United States. The US is not very densely populated, even along the east coast, parallel freeways are often over 150 - 200 km spaced apart, that's even worse in the midwest and west coast, where parallel freeways can be hundreds of miles apart.

If China decides to give every 100,000+ city a connection to the freeway network, you're gonna get an amazing freeway network. China has like 3 times more cities above 200,000 population than the United States.

rusgeren

April 22nd, 2009, 03:07 PM

I think they will build much new roads than in the last years, to keep the economical growth and to give the unemployed persons a new job.

big-dog

April 25th, 2009, 06:35 PM

Jincheng-Jiyuan expressway opened in Dec 2008

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5637/g55w.jpg

Located in Shanxi and Hennan Provinces, Jincheng-Jiyuan expressway is part of the 2685km Erlianhaote-Guangzhou expressway (G55). That route is well known for its geographical complexity. The expressway is one of the hardest to be built.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/6691/10094758.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1571/10094747.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5288/10094626.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/674/00123f37b9ae0ac4242801.jpg

Xianshenhe Bridge, critical project on Jincheng-Jiyuan expressway

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/3403/00123f37b9ae0ac4244602.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8904/00123f37b9ae0ac4246703.jpg

(baidu.com)

Chrissib

April 25th, 2009, 07:24 PM

Is there a plan to number the expressways?

From what I've heard the Guo-Roads translate to Bundesstraßen in Germany or US-Highways, but not Interstates or Autobahns.

foxmulder_ms

April 26th, 2009, 12:33 AM

Breathtaking scenes...

baidu

April 26th, 2009, 04:13 AM

Is there a plan to number the expressways?

From what I've heard the Guo-Roads translate to Bundesstraßen in Germany or US-Highways, but not Interstates or Autobahns.
Guo-Roads(国道) of course are not express way,otherwise china has too many express ways :lol:
Guo-express(国家高速) are express way

hoosier

April 27th, 2009, 04:17 AM

big-dog

May 11th, 2009, 11:58 AM

I think they will build much new roads than in the last years, to keep the economical growth and to give the unemployed persons a new job.

yes, especially in global crisis times.

Historical Development of Expressway Length in China

Year Distance (KM)
01-01-1988 0
01-01-1989 147
01-01-1990 271
01-01-1991 522
01-01-1992 574
01-01-1993 652
01-01-1994 1145
01-01-1995 1603
01-01-1996 2141
01-01-1997 3422
01-01-1998 4771
01-01-1999 8733
01-01-2000 11605
01-01-2001 16314
01-01-2002 19453
01-01-2003 25200
01-01-2004 29800
01-01-2005 34300
01-01-2006 41005
01-01-2007 45339
01-01-2008 53913
01-01-2009 60346
01-01-2010 65000 (projected)
(wikipedia)

squirrelq

May 12th, 2009, 12:10 AM

The wikipedia was entry was created by me too...;)

But fairly enough most of the data originated from some Chinese government sites:

http://www.sei.gov.cn/try/hgjj/yearbook/2008/html/P1503e.htm
http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/statisticaldata/yearlydata/
http://www.sei.gov.cn/hgjj/yearbook/2007/html/P1603e.htm

The speed of construction shows some similarities with the speed of construction during the 30's of the previous century in Germany:
http://members.a1.net/wabweb/history/rab.htm

But the economy was fairly good during the hype of construction in the States during the 60's.

Jiangwho

May 19th, 2009, 07:06 PM

Changde-Jishou Expressway
http://www.0745bbs.com/attachments/month_0905/20090517_3f478742cf8439e51056z8Nqmq0wXOTw.jpg

http://www.0745bbs.com/attachments/month_0905/20090517_d5391bbfa885ad690636IZ5CPxMlt9Ki.jpg

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Timon91

May 19th, 2009, 10:50 PM

What is that yellow doing there on the road? Are they testing paint or sth?

Majestic

May 19th, 2009, 11:15 PM

What is that yellow doing there on the road? Are they testing paint or sth?
Actually it's sand - trying to save on asphalt.

Mateusz

May 19th, 2009, 11:17 PM

Seriously ? It might be dangerous

Majestic

May 19th, 2009, 11:27 PM

I always get the impression that those Chinese expressways are somewhat empty and desolate. I realise that with current China's economic growth rate most of those roads will get some decent traffic in a couple of years but right now it looks like they're built without recognition of traffic needs. So here comes a question to fellow Chinese forumers: is there any credible data on AADT of China's expressways?

Also, I'd like to know whether any decent service along these routes is available, I mean are there enough gas stations, restaurants, rest areas etc.?

staff

May 19th, 2009, 11:37 PM

^^
You're sort of answering your own question. With the economic growth and increasing car ownership all of the new highways in China will be heavily used in a not too distant future. You can't really compare "recognition of traffic needs" in China with the developed Western world in which all countries already have fully developed national trunk networks (and hence new highways are built on stretches where the need for them is discovered over time). China has been lacking highways between all of its major cities up until now, so these roads needs to be built no matter what.

Don't be fooled by the pics though. Basically all of the photos of new highways in this thread are taken for the purpose of showing the actual road (not the traffic on them) for promotional purposes etc, either during the construction stage or during the first or so day of inauguration.

Jiangwho

May 20th, 2009, 01:02 AM

^^

Staff really knows how Chinese people doing things :lol:,

Actually it's sand - trying to save on asphalt.

No, its not sand. its yellow painted on the road's surface which keeps drivers awake.

I'd like to know whether any decent service along these routes is available, I mean are there enough gas stations, restaurants, rest areas etc.?

This is the service area, you can see a CNPC petroleum station and a restaurant on the right side of the pic.
http://www.0745bbs.com/attachments/month_0905/20090517_a8c5195837ce1acc3c90VCvQXBuCbmyo.jpg

BarbaricManchurian

May 20th, 2009, 04:08 AM

On most expressways in China I’ve traveled on, there seemed to be relatively heavy traffic, but on the newer ones, traffic seems to be quite light, probably because they are so new most people haven’t heard of them, and because many are built as planning for future traffic, so current traffic may seem quite light on the high-capacity road. For example, the Jingjintang Expressway had light traffic for a while after it was built in 1993, but now it is so jammed with traffic that they built a parallel 2nd expressway.

On China Expressways, there’s usually a service plaza around every 50km, they usually have a gas station and cafeteria.

Timon91

May 20th, 2009, 08:26 AM

ChrisZwolle

May 20th, 2009, 09:54 AM

I guess the intercity travel by car is not very heavy yet.

BarbaricManchurian

May 20th, 2009, 02:59 PM

^^yes, both Timon91 and ChrisZwolle are correct, but a few expressways have high intercity traffic, for example, Beijing-Tianjin expressway and Beijing-Zhangjiakou expressway. Another factor is that the high toll dissaudes most people from using the expressways; they'll usually use the free national road which sometimes is almost as good as the expressway. Gasoline is pretty cheap though.

Mateusz

May 20th, 2009, 04:49 PM

Sabanban

June 9th, 2009, 08:32 AM

How many km of expressway is China going to build this year?

整个波兰的高速公路现在不到七百公里，跟中国做什么比较？还说什么八十年代的波兰。

Mateusz

June 9th, 2009, 10:44 AM

Probably another couple of thousands, if they could switch this to Poland then our whole network would be built in 2 years :D

big-dog

June 9th, 2009, 10:50 AM

How many km of expressway is China going to build this year?

The estimation is 5000km.

Historical Development of Expressway Length in China

Year Distance (KM)
01-01-1988 0
01-01-1989 147
01-01-1990 271
01-01-1991 522
01-01-1992 574
01-01-1993 652
01-01-1994 1145
01-01-1995 1603
01-01-1996 2141
01-01-1997 3422
01-01-1998 4771
01-01-1999 8733
01-01-2000 11605
01-01-2001 16314
01-01-2002 19453
01-01-2003 25200
01-01-2004 29800
01-01-2005 34300
01-01-2006 41005
01-01-2007 45339
01-01-2008 53913
01-01-2009 60346
01-01-2010 65000 (projected)
(wikipedia)

187cc

June 9th, 2009, 11:01 AM

Chinses highways are awesome but one can't help but get the feeling that most of the rural and some inter-city ones are under-utilised, for example in Sichuan last year the highway from Chengdu to the South Bamboo Sea were almost empty. Would make excellent street race though hehe :D.

Of course you do get lots choca-full ones too.

big-dog

June 10th, 2009, 05:36 AM

urbanfan89

June 10th, 2009, 05:55 AM

And there won't be any successful freeway revolts in China unlike in the U.S. In China, if the government wants to build a road, it gets built.

There's been a semi-successful maglev revolt in Shanghai. The government has promised to tunnel the entire extension of the maglev line to the Hongqiao Super-Intermodal Hub.

staff

June 10th, 2009, 10:02 AM

The government has promised to tunnel the entire extension of the maglev line to the Hongqiao Super-Intermodal Hub.
I didn't know this! Another "first" then, for Shanghai. :yes:

And as mentioned before; the "highways look empty" argument isn't really applicable in a nation of more than 1.3 billion people.

ChrisZwolle

June 10th, 2009, 11:26 AM

^^ most of the highways in China were built in last 15 years. people need time to get used to it. and many pics in this thread were taken when the highway was just finished (fresh new). maybe that's why it looks "empty".

I've not been driving on western China's highways but in the east most highways are fully loaded.

Most pictures here are only promotional pics, not pics taken by Chinese drivers, like we do in Europe or North America... Hopefully that'll change!

BarbaricManchurian

June 10th, 2009, 04:30 PM

^^true, most expressways in eastern China are definitely full of traffic much of the time, that's why they're building multiple expressway lines, high speed rails, even intercity metros (in Shanghai and Shenzhen) and this barely may be enough to serve China's transportation needs. Western China expressways are more of a prestige project, like Western US interstates, it's not totally useful but it stimulates economic development.

z0rg

June 11th, 2009, 10:11 AM

Shijiazhuang second ring road. By ALILANG
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss235/sjzfx/IMG_20.jpg?t=1243649603

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss235/sjzfx/IMG_23.jpg?t=1243649754

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss235/sjzfx/IMG_32.jpg?t=1243650104

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss235/sjzfx/IMG_3.jpg?t=1243650394

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss235/sjzfx/IMG_5.jpg?t=1243653369

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss235/sjzfx/IMG_6.jpg?t=1243650443

Matchut

June 11th, 2009, 08:41 PM

Wuhuang Expressway (武黄高速公路）, part of G50 Huyu Expressway (沪渝高速) and G70 Fuyin Expressway (福银高速).

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1618/img7785s.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/512/img7786.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/72/img7787.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/747/img7789x.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2184/img7790.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8203/img7791e.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9109/img7793.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9231/img7794.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8638/img7796r.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/926/img7797.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3738/img7799z.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3380/img7802n.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8535/img7804q.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5914/img7806v.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4326/img7807.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6487/img7808h.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2100/img7815a.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4698/img7817e.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5614/img7820.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1557/img7821w.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7371/img7822l.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1822/img7827.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4214/img7828.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2273/img7830.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/376/img7831v.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7152/img7839.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/677/img7840.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/599/img7842j.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/65/img7843s.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4016/img7845.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2387/img7846a.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6282/img7848.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/992/img7849.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7641/img7853.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5913/img7857j.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8026/img7861b.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/827/img7866b.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7944/img7867e.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5014/img7868.jpg

ChrisZwolle

June 11th, 2009, 08:42 PM

Great :)

Majestic

June 11th, 2009, 08:47 PM

Finally some genuine roadgeeking from China. :D

Matchut

June 16th, 2009, 05:57 AM

China National Highway G106 (Beijing - Guangzhou)

North to south
Huanggang, Hubei - Ezhou, Hubei

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6862/img7717.jpg
Junction with S207 in Shazigang Village, Taodian Township, Huangzhou District, Huanggang City. This picture faces northwest - the road in front is the G106.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4615/img7718.jpg
Lukou Town, Huangzhou District.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6628/img7719.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7911/img7720e.jpg
Santaihe Bridge

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3523/img7721g.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8623/img7722.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4735/img7732.jpg
Ezhou-Huanggang Chang Jiang Bridge, Huangzhou District

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6435/img7733.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/799/img7737.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4553/img7739.jpg
Entering Ezhou City.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3241/img7740y.jpg
G316/S235 junction. G106 and G316 run along the same road going forward.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8651/img7741.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/46/img7742t.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8133/img7743.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6484/img7746.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8697/img7750t.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5758/img7755a.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8199/img7756q.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9066/img7757.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4486/img7761.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2905/img7764z.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1261/img7765.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3721/img7767d.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/433/img7769.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8334/img7770.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9660/img7771.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8756/img7772.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7820/img7774h.jpg
Zelin Town, Echeng District

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9629/img7776q.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7571/img7777g.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4149/img7778.jpg

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http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6642/img7781.jpg

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http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8492/img7784.jpg
Wuhuang Expressway (G50 Shanghai-Chongqing Expressway, G70 Fuzhou-Yinchuan) entrance, Zelin Town, Echeng District

South to north
Huanggang, Hubei

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1448/img6301.jpg
Dongmen Lu in Huangzhou District, Huanggang City. Near the Huanggang Police Station.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5977/img6979a.jpg
Huanggang Police Station.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1811/img6980a.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8689/img6981.jpg
Huanggang Television headquarters.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7435/img6982h.jpg
Road maintenance near the Santaihe Bridge.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/213/img6983.jpg
Santaihe Bridge, Huangzhou District

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4374/img6302.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2506/img6303m.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4122/img6304.jpg
Lukou Town, Huangzhou District

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1659/img6305.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8427/img7047m.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2923/img6306o.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1413/img7048.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1874/img7049.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6629/img6308.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1909/img6309x.jpg
Interchange in Xiejiadawan Village, Lukou Town, Huangzhou District

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4120/img7545.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1976/img7547s.jpg
Taodian Township, Huangzhou District

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6189/img7548g.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9917/img7549x.jpg
Taodian Toll Station in Zhaojiadawan Village, Taodian Township, Huangzhou District

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7461/img7550.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7695/img7551a.jpg
G45 Dalian-Guangzhou Expressway road sign

ChrisZwolle

June 16th, 2009, 10:32 AM

Enmergency (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/512/img7786.jpg)?

staff

June 16th, 2009, 10:47 AM

^^
Hehe, if you're going to start correcting the English language on signs in China, you have a looooong life ahead of you. ;)

Pansori

June 16th, 2009, 11:44 AM

What's wrong with 'Emergency lane'? It should be called 'Emergency shoulder', no? Actually I used to call it 'emergency lane' as well. Still makes sense, because, in fact, that's what it is - an emergency lane. :)

ChrisZwolle

June 16th, 2009, 11:49 AM

Yeah, but it's spelled as "Enmergency" lane.

Matchut

June 16th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Yeah, but it's spelled as "Enmergency" lane.
That expressway a few weird signs. On one sign, "SERVICE AREA" became "SERVICEARER".

Pansori

June 16th, 2009, 11:40 PM

lol sorry I didn't even notice that :D
A typing mistake due to the lack of English knowledge by the person who did the 'translation'. These days, however, it should be possible to use Google translator or something similar. Why wouldn't they do that?

Scion

June 17th, 2009, 12:24 AM

^^ Google translator can be horrible when translating 5+ words

Matchut

June 17th, 2009, 05:05 PM

China National Highway G318 (Shanghai - Xigazê)

East to west
Huanggang, Hubei

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6310/img7627v.jpg
Leaving Zongluzui Town, Tuanfeng County, Huanggang City

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4803/img7629r.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2985/img7630i.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6877/img7631c.jpg
S308 junction. Left is S308, right is G318

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5719/img7632.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3702/img7633d.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8226/img7634l.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9733/img7635.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3968/img7637.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1381/img7640.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9404/img7641.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/884/img7643i.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5021/img7644m.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8308/img7645j.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/378/img7647.jpg
Macaomiao Town, Tuanfeng County

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8140/img7648h.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7135/img7649.jpg

West to east

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1906/img7597.jpg
Leaving the S308 junction, Tuanfeng County

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8590/img7598.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1603/img7599b.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8938/img7600hnb.jpg
Zongluzui Town, Tuanfeng County

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6538/img7601k.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8900/img7602.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1173/img7603.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8128/img7604u.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3888/img7605z.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3199/img7606.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6963/img7609g.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7039/img7610v.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1895/img7613.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2792/img7614.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3797/img7615.jpg

ChrisZwolle

June 17th, 2009, 05:18 PM

Is that national highway unpaved at times?! :o

That's the side of China you usually don't see...

staff

June 17th, 2009, 06:40 PM

Still a lot of work to do!

Matchut

June 17th, 2009, 10:55 PM

Is that national highway unpaved at times?! :o

That's the side of China you usually don't see...
Best to get prepared for the next one...

Hubei Provincial Highway S308 (Tuanfeng County)

East to west
Tuanfeng County, Huanggang City

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7097/img7585d.jpg
S207 junction facing northward, Shangbahe Town, Tuanfeng County, Huanggang City

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8163/img7586z.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/166/img7587t.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1299/img7588.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7716/img7590j.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9060/img7591.jpg
Police station

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3417/img7592c.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8598/img7593.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7387/img7594.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9115/img7595.jpg
S308 western terminus, G318 junction, Tuanfeng County

Matchut

June 18th, 2009, 10:36 PM

Hubei Provincial Highway S111 (Huangpi District - Xinzhou District)

Huangpi District, Wuhan City - Xinzhou District, Wuhan City

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6179/img8695y.jpg
Near Xinhe Bridge, Huangpi District, Wuhan City

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8028/img8706i.jpg
Xinhe Bridge, Huangpi District

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7821/img8711v.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7513/img8712m.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/715/img8713.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1383/img8714o.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5508/img8715k.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/598/img8716f.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6747/img8717.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5556/img8718n.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2945/img8719.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7779/img8721.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8974/img8722.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2254/img8723j.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6822/img8724.jpg
Binhe Bridge, Huangpi District

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1764/img8727.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9323/img8728q.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/795/img8729.jpg
Xinzhou District

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/379/img8730.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6079/img8731.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2201/img8732w.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3585/img8733.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6406/img8734.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8655/img8735.jpg
Changhe Bridge, Xinzhou District

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5977/img8736.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/52/img8739.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8187/img8741z.jpg

SOLOMON

June 19th, 2009, 12:13 AM

sometimes .... going back to reality is good.

oliver999

June 19th, 2009, 05:17 AM

what ugly country roads.

oliver999

June 19th, 2009, 05:18 AM

but, matchut, you say it's a national highway, that's totally wrong. it's only country road.

oliver999

June 19th, 2009, 05:25 AM

Matchut

June 19th, 2009, 06:15 AM

but, matchut, you say it's a national highway, that's totally wrong. it's only country road.
No such thing as a "country road" in mainland China. The pictures that I posted are of 国道 (National Highway) and 省道 (Provincial Highway).

China National Highway 106 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38315400&postcount=1336)
China National Highway 318 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38386838&postcount=1344)
Hubei Provincial Highway S111 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38448034&postcount=1348)
Hubei Provincial Highway S308 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38392980&postcount=1347)

Find out if those posts contain mistakes please.

Sabanban

June 19th, 2009, 09:16 AM

china is really unbalanced, only east coasts earas well developed. someone said after 30 years china can be a developed country, that's totally wrong, maybe after 100 years can be as developed as US in 2009.

Just for your information, US did not have freeway until 1950s.

湖北是个烂地方。

Matchut

June 19th, 2009, 09:31 PM

Hubei Provincial Highway S112 (Xinzhou - Huangzhou)

Yangluo Town, Xinzhou District, Wuhan City - Huangzhou District, Huanggang City

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5449/img8758.jpg
S112 starting point and S109 junction, Yangluo Town, Xinzhou District, Wuhan City

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4749/img8759.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3476/img8760y.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7106/img8761.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1857/img8762f.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2585/img8763i.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9977/img8764q.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6531/img8765.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5641/img8766.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9884/img8767.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/413/img8768q.jpg
Daoshuihe Bridge, Yangluo Town, Xinzhou District

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1525/img8770.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/838/img8771.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/551/img8772.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2417/img8773w.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9788/img8774.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6684/img8775.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7869/img8776.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8957/img8777.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8708/img8778.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1264/img8781j.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3073/img8782a.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5327/img8783.jpg
Wagou Bridge, Xinzhou District

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3880/img8785.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5673/img8786l.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6200/img8787.jpg
Tuanfengjushuihe Bridge, Xinzhou District

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6149/img8789.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9577/img8790.jpg
Tuanfeng Town, Tuanfeng County, Huanggang City

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/415/img8791.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1135/img8792.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4982/img8793a.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/301/img8800.jpg

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http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/586/img8802.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/551/img8803g.jpg
Yuwang toll gate, Yuwang Subdistrict, Huangzhou District

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1281/img8804.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4593/img8805.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/581/img8806p.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/664/img8807.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9329/img8808g.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1435/img8809z.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2456/img8810.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2442/img8811.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3431/img8812w.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4685/img8813o.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1599/img8814.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/347/img8815.jpg
S112 terminus, Huangzhou District

BarbaricManchurian

June 20th, 2009, 03:46 AM

From my experiences, national roads seem to have wildly differing standards in different parts of the country (Inner Mongolia: good, Hebei: good and bad, Tianjin: good but always overcrowded). However, expressways always have consistant high quality, no matter where in the country one goes. However, once one gets off of it, you can find hugely different road standards in just a few kilometers, probably typical of developing countries; for example: randomly there's a 6 lane boulevard at the edge of town randomly ending and turning into a 2 lane road with no "transitions," its just 2 different road slab widths. Also you happen upon random well maintained roads in the countryside with little traffic, probably it's corruption or a test project.

Sabanban

June 22nd, 2009, 11:27 PM

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badguy2000

June 23rd, 2009, 02:49 PM

BarbaricManchurian

June 23rd, 2009, 08:49 PM

The national highway paralleling the Jingzhang (Beijing-Zhangjiakou) Expressway is pretty bad in segments, but 95% of the national highways I've travelled on are relatively good, just the standards are different, as some places are 2 lane road, 4 lanes, or semi-expressway. It's very different in different areas.

Sub-provincial highways are all good in Tianjin municipality, same with provincial highways, but that's because it's a relatively more developed region.

aswnl

June 23rd, 2009, 09:34 PM

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/795/img8729.jpg
Poly Dream City :?
Is that the name of a Chinese city ???

Matchut

June 23rd, 2009, 11:48 PM

Poly Dream City :?
Is that the name of a Chinese city ???
It's a residential area in Yangluo Town. This area is developing quickly.

zaphod

June 24th, 2009, 02:11 AM

I get the feeling those unpaved highways won't remain that way for long, though

z0rg

June 28th, 2009, 11:27 AM

Urban highways in Zhengzhou, Henan province. June 24th by ahyan.
http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/04101216.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/04101378.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410140B.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/04101491.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/041017E3.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410BCD9.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410BD22.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410BDDC.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410BDF8.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410BE1C.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410BE2E.002C

http://bbs.home.news.cn/upfiles/0410BF1B.002C

ChrisZwolle

June 28th, 2009, 11:32 AM

60 km/h on a 10-lane freeway? :omg:

Danielk2

June 28th, 2009, 11:52 AM

60 is a very low speed limit for a road that size. In Denmark the lowest speed limit on motorways is 90.

big-dog

June 29th, 2009, 05:50 PM

60 km/h on a 10-lane freeway? :omg:

I guess that's because it's a freeway in the city.

ChrisZwolle

June 29th, 2009, 05:56 PM

Yeah, but still, 90 km/h would make more sense.

Chris_533976

June 29th, 2009, 06:41 PM

Its not mph??

Matchut

June 30th, 2009, 04:11 AM

Its not mph??
No. China always uses the metric system for infrastructure.

Pansori

June 30th, 2009, 11:23 AM

Yeah, but still, 90 km/h would make more sense.

I was recently driving in Germany. In some areas there are limits of 80km/h in autobahns (usually near cities) but most would still drive at 120-140km/h. I really doubt such 'speed limits' are enforced anywhere.

z0rg

June 30th, 2009, 10:35 PM

More of Shijiazhuang, by dreamcast
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2438/3671477080_66bc81b116_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3671477000_fd364f300f_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/3671477174_45272a45cc_o.jpg

big-dog

July 1st, 2009, 09:55 AM

I know a big traffic interchange is being built in SJZ, is this the one?

Matchut

July 2nd, 2009, 05:28 PM

Completed sections of the under-construction Beijing 2nd Airport Expressway

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3497/img9689i.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2599/img9690.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5386/img9691o.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8508/img9692.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5108/img9693t.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8367/img9694.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1109/img9695p.jpg

staff

July 2nd, 2009, 06:12 PM

World class!

Majestic

July 2nd, 2009, 07:24 PM

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1109/img9695p.jpg
English font is somewhat flawed here. Hand-made? :D

mike7743

July 3rd, 2009, 01:51 AM

sometimes .... going back to reality is good.

indeed. we were fooled.

BarbaricManchurian

July 3rd, 2009, 08:34 PM

^^when? The majority of Chinese national roads are in good condition, and expressways are at an always high standard. Though of course there are still some major improvements to make.

z0rg

July 9th, 2009, 09:04 PM

Shijiazhuang. Pics by 臭球儿.

Feb 2009
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3701384302_94e4981654_o.jpg

Mar 2009
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/3700576579_bd9b02cb8f_o.jpg

Apr 2009
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3700575269_c5b255299e_o.jpg

May 2009
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/3701385114_71759d9534_o.jpg

Jun 2009
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3520/3700576257_bfb8c19e9f_o.jpg

Jul 2009
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3701378692_54a8867725_o.jpg

ChrisZwolle

July 9th, 2009, 09:10 PM

Wow that's fast!

Mateusz

July 9th, 2009, 09:32 PM

Chinese style construction, quick ! :D

squirrelq

July 9th, 2009, 09:34 PM

And notice the speed of construction of the buildings next to the city highway.

ChrisZwolle

July 9th, 2009, 09:37 PM

Well, it saves a lot of time, because they close down the entire intersection for all traffic it seems...

They are building a new cyclist tunnel under a major highway in my city, which takes over a year to build, just because traffic keeps running on the roads. The widening of that road here from 4 to 6 lanes takes like 4 - 5 years for only 2 km.

Buddy Holly

July 9th, 2009, 11:16 PM

...and then stuff like this happens.

http://constructionknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/china_apt_collapse.jpg?w=500&h=326

squirrelq

July 9th, 2009, 11:58 PM

Or this...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8404/chinesebridgecollapse.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/chinesebridgecollapse.jpg/)

z0rg

July 12th, 2009, 09:44 PM

A lot of penis size envy over here. As if you hadn't construction related accidents in your country. In my country (Spain) 6 workers died a couple of years ago when an u/c viaduct collapsed. Of course in certain countries where they are constructing countless highways, towers, etc, they suffer more accidents due to the crazy amount of projects.

maldini

July 13th, 2009, 11:08 AM

There are some people just jealous of china.
How about this parking deck that crumbled in Atlanta?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090630/ap_on_re_us/us_atlanta_parking_deck_collapse

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090630/capt.d00ab9b9a20d49bdb72e466a76acd8b0.atlanta_parking_deck_collaspe_gajb103.jpg?x=400&y=265&q=85&sig=T3Qg4iijk9DwEw9NumaN7w--

oliver999

July 13th, 2009, 11:14 AM

the falling building is not for quality, but special ground 应力,the prefessor said he had never been seen this before in his life time.
the collaps high suspend way, is during it's dimolish.

Matchut

July 13th, 2009, 09:40 PM

Beijing Southern Airport Line, Beijing Airport Expressway to Beijing 2nd Airport Expressway

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1451/img9681.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/508/img9682r.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7964/img9683.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/460/img9684r.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1389/img9685.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1741/img9686.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3686/img9687.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6453/img9688.jpg

oliver999

July 14th, 2009, 03:42 AM

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1264/20097121243131843.jpg

GeneO

July 15th, 2009, 04:34 PM

GeneO

July 15th, 2009, 04:36 PM

clnense

July 16th, 2009, 05:08 AM

The last project is awesome, i have a few questions that would aprecciate a lot if you answer.

Which city is it?

Are there traffic lights? I dont get to see em.

What is the building to the right?

Greetings from Mexico.:)

ChrisZwolle

July 16th, 2009, 08:40 AM

Which city is it?

It says so in the pictures... Shijazhuang

RipleyLV

July 16th, 2009, 08:48 AM

Shijazhuang
:nuts:

Saw on the news yesterday, another viaduct collapsed on one highway during the night between Shanghai and... eee... forgot the other city name. Many people died, because in the dark they couldn't see the collapsed viaduct, so they crashed onto ruins. :ohno:

Mateusz

July 16th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Poor quality ? Quantity over quality ? Shock working over precision ? :(

BarbaricManchurian

July 16th, 2009, 12:38 PM

:nuts:

Saw on the news yesterday, another viaduct collapsed on one highway during the night between Shanghai and... eee... forgot the other city name. Many people died, because in the dark they couldn't see the collapsed viaduct, so they crashed onto ruins. :ohno:

Link to an online report please, otherwise I'll find this hard to believe.

RipleyLV

July 16th, 2009, 02:29 PM

Link to an online report please, otherwise I'll find this hard to believe.

Edit:
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q420/Ripley9895/china.jpg

6 people died.

Adrian.Pete

July 20th, 2009, 07:29 AM

I lived in Beijing and China builds a lot of things, some of very good quality, specially the "important" ones, like the Airport Highway, beautiful by the way, or poor quality like Xi'an highway (I Don't remember the name)... but most of them look pretty good, by the way in Hangzhou there are lots of constructions and I can say Good Quality, chinese make good things, sometimes they screw, but is the idea we have that everything China does is cheap and low quality... Chinese don't want to kill their own people...

octopusop

July 20th, 2009, 11:34 AM

Edit:
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q420/Ripley9895/china.jpg

6 people died.

The bridge quality is pretty good. Bridge deck and piers are in perfect order. 5 trucks total weight 400 tons runned on the right side of the bridge, the deck turned over. Overweight of trucks are the popular in China roads.

BarbaricManchurian

July 21st, 2009, 12:25 PM

Edit:
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q420/Ripley9895/china.jpg

6 people died.

RIP, very sad

cjav

July 22nd, 2009, 01:34 PM

Shijiazhuang. Pics by 臭球儿.

Feb 2009
pic

Mar 2009
pic

Apr 2009
pic

May 2009
pic

Jun 2009
pic

Jul 2009
pic

Hey z0rg, your pics made it onto one of the biggest dutch weblogs Geenstijl.
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2009/07/zo_bouw_je_een_snelweg.html#more

Buddy Holly

July 22nd, 2009, 05:11 PM

:nuts:

Saw on the news yesterday, another viaduct collapsed on one highway during the night between Shanghai and... eee... forgot the other city name. Many people died, because in the dark they couldn't see the collapsed viaduct, so they crashed onto ruins. :ohno:

Hey hey now... they'll accuse you of having "penis size envy" :D

Klifix

July 23rd, 2009, 11:43 AM

That is absolutaly fast! BTW, smile your pics are on GeenStyle: http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2009/07/zo_bouw_je_een_snelweg.html

z0rg

July 23rd, 2009, 05:26 PM

Wow. They quoted the post here too! :banana:
http://jalopnik.com/5316614/chinese-road-construction-at-the-speed-of-light/gallery/

staff

July 24th, 2009, 06:46 AM

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-07/22/content_11755464.htm
Key expressway begins construction in China's Xinjiang

www.chinaview.cn 2009-07-22 22:33:14 Print

URUMQI, July 22 (Xinhua) -- A key expressway in northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region began construction on Wednesday in a move to improve the region's road network and serve its economic development.

The 135-km expressway will link Kuytun City to Karamay City. The project, funded by the central government and Xinjiang regional government, will cost 3.87 billion yuan (about 567 million U.S. dollars).

The road is bidirectional with four lanes. It will be completed and put into use in November 2011.

Dai Gongxing, vice chairman of the Xinjiang regional government, said at the groundbreaking ceremony in Kuytun that the expressway, also part of the national expressway network, would improve the regional transport and promote local economic development.

nineth

July 25th, 2009, 05:53 PM

Edit:
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q420/Ripley9895/china.jpg

6 people died.

The last picture is from Indian accident.

look at here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=516812&page=134

big-dog

August 2nd, 2009, 04:46 PM

Location: Hubei Province
Length: 207km
Speed limit: 100kmph

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7445/9546520090528210500i728.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9435/95465200905282105574q33.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

August 2nd, 2009, 04:46 PM

duplicate

big-dog

August 3rd, 2009, 07:40 AM

Xi'an-Ankang expressway is located in Shaanxi Province.

Length: 195km
Part of G65 expressway (Baotou-Maoming)

Baojiashan Tunnel is the 2nd longest road tunnel in China

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3403/9546520090528200551vege.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/385/001372d8a1dc0b88837602.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8848/001372d8a1dc0b8883a704.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4921/001372d8a1dc0b8883ad05.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

August 3rd, 2009, 07:40 AM

duplicate

big-dog

August 3rd, 2009, 06:00 PM

Guanzhou-Gaoming expressway opens

Length: 130km, 6 lanes
Construction: 3.5 yrs
Cost: 3.142 billion yuan

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3662/f2009062517482815305774.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/i/f2009062517482815305774.jpg/)

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

August 3rd, 2009, 06:00 PM

duplicate

NCT

August 20th, 2009, 01:03 PM

I see some rather impressive landscaping, like having the roads built on an embankment or in a little ditch - such techniques allow for easy bridging and tunneling, especially for the local roads. These techniques are hardly used in and around Shanghai though - most expressways there are either at ground-level (making bridging over or tunnelling under a real nightmare) or elevated using concrete pillars the whole way through - I wonder if the soft-soil geology there is to blame?

The motorway network in China is expanding at a very impressive speed. I do question though whether such an extensive network is actually necessary. In the remote areas normal roads are underused, all that's needed is to separate pedestrian and cycles from the main carriageway, a few pedestrain bridges, tunnels or crossings, roundabouts or junctions for crossroads, and a by-pass around towns where necessary. Building a whole new road just because of a few hot-spots seem rather unwise.

Also, China's railways look vastly underdeveloped compared to the motorway network!

BarbaricManchurian

August 20th, 2009, 08:51 PM

^^it stimulates the economy

big-dog

August 29th, 2009, 05:02 AM

I've been lazy updating highway completion projects. Here's some past news.

6.28 Suizhou-Yueyang North expressway (随岳北高速公路) opens

It's part of 336km Suizhou-Yueyang expressway (opening in 2010)
Location: Hunan Province, npth part of Suizhou to Yueyang
Speed limit: 100kmph
Cost: 2.299billion yuan

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/95465_20090708210758_Mp3kp.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/xinsrc_2130606290921765191372.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/1645055E8-0.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

August 29th, 2009, 05:11 AM

Xi'an Xianyang International Airport expressway opens

Location: Xi'an, Shaanxi Province
Width: 8 lanes
Length: 20.58km
Project started: Nov. 2006
Speed limit: 120 kmph

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/95465_20090708220701_3qVHa.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/20090708064328340.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/20090708065307481.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/20090708065327793.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/20090708065550106.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/20090708065452449.jpg
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/20090708065506715.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

August 29th, 2009, 08:16 AM

Jinan 2nd Ring road east interchange completes

The interchange, connecting Jinan 2nd ring and Jinan-Qingdai expressway, Will better serve 2009 11th National Games in Jinan, Shandong Province

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/5ce87735f5f6cec0df250a15ed5b1beb.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

August 30th, 2009, 03:45 AM

more past news

7.17 Zunyi-Maotai expressway (遵义茅台高速公路) opens

It serves various tourist destination in Guizhou Province.

Location: Guizhou Province
Cost: 2.36 bln yuan
Length: 45.1km
Project started: 12/19/2006
Spec: 4 lanes, 80kmph

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/95465_20090718200749_mqzxW.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/zyol2009071801003.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

big-dog

August 30th, 2009, 04:00 AM

Mengzi-Xinjie expressway opens (蒙新高速公路)

With its completion Kunming-ASEAN becomes all high-grade road. Its 38km continuous down-slope is the longest in China.

Location: Yunnan Province, 蒙自至新街高速公路
Length: 85.396km;
Cost: 5.78 bln yuan
Spec: 4 lanes, 80kmph, bridges:155, tunnels:29, bridge/tunnel: 40.7%
Project started: Jan 2005

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/2009040918405564.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/1003110.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/2009040918413971.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/2009040823182192.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/2009040918384584.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/2009040918395118.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/2009040823175814.jpg

(www.china-highway.com)

Chris_533976

August 30th, 2009, 10:24 AM

80kmh only?

Pansori

August 30th, 2009, 05:23 PM

Mateusz

August 30th, 2009, 05:44 PM

80 km/h is quite low outside the city for dual carriageway

BarbaricManchurian

August 30th, 2009, 08:46 PM

Yes, this is what I wanted to ask as well. Is it usual to have a legal 80km/h speed limit on a dual-carriageway road in China? So what is the legal speed limit on regular roads in China (non dual-carriageways)? Or is it that noone will ever bother implementing such speed-limits and everyone will drive smoothly at 100 or so km/h (as is often the case on German roads, for example).

Most expressways have a 120km/h speed limit, however in mountainous areas the speed limits are lower, for example, the Badaling Expressway north of Beijing has a 60km/h speed limit in the extremely mountainous part near the Great Wall. On regular roads there's usually no speed limit sign (and not much notion of traffic police), but if there is one, it's between 60-100km/h.

There's no traffic law enforcement, so on expressways usually there is busses and trucks driving in the right lane at 80-90km/h and cars driving at 110-200km/h, the higher speeds usually only attainable on less-traficked expressways (high traffic expressways have traffic usually moving at 120km/h or less) where there's sometimes some Mercedes who passes you in a blur! (I saw one video where the driver was driving at 250km/h!) Anyway, once you reach the cities traffic is terrible, so one would sometimes spend as much time getting to their destination within the city as driving between cities.

NCT

August 31st, 2009, 12:41 PM

The thing is there's no lane discipline in China - people don't drive on the right and overtake on the left - more often than not you've got a slow lorry crawling on the outside lane and faster vehicles have to overtake and undertake like mad. Therefore efficiency on Chinese motorways is low. Then you have official speed limits that are unrealistic, unsystematic and archaic.

z0rg

August 31st, 2009, 01:29 PM

^^ You find that kind of drivers everywhere around the world.

NCT

August 31st, 2009, 09:15 PM

^^ You find that kind of drivers everywhere around the world.

On British Roads you feel as though all the cars are stationary and the road is moving underneath - everyone drives at almost exactly the same speed. Of course you've still got the odd idiot on the road.

On British motorways it's strictly overtaking on the outside lane. On 3-lane motorways if you were on the inside lane and there's someone crawling in the second lane, you would overtake it on the outside lane.

BarbaricManchurian

September 2nd, 2009, 02:57 AM

No lane discipline, true, but the impatient drivers weave between the lanes to drive fast...

Mateusz

September 2nd, 2009, 04:26 AM

How high are fines in China for traffic offences ?

urbanfan89

September 3rd, 2009, 04:58 AM

The motorway network in China is expanding at a very impressive speed. I do question though whether such an extensive network is actually necessary. In the remote areas normal roads are underused, all that's needed is to separate pedestrian and cycles from the main carriageway, a few pedestrain bridges, tunnels or crossings, roundabouts or junctions for crossroads, and a by-pass around towns where necessary. Building a whole new road just because of a few hot-spots seem rather unwise.

The same was true about the US before they built the Interstates, and Germany before they built the Autobahn. In time it will become unacceptable to not have a network of expressways.

city_thing

September 3rd, 2009, 12:56 PM

China needs to invest so much in large scale infrastructure simply because they need to provide jobs for the 20m+ young workers than join the job market every year.

Without such huge funds being pumped into the economy, the unemployment rate would skyrocket and Beijing would have a country full of riots on its hands.

That's why China needs roughly 8% economic growth a year, that's the bare minimum needed to provide new jobs for the population.

NCT

September 4th, 2009, 07:05 PM

The same was true about the US before they built the Interstates, and Germany before they built the Autobahn. In time it will become unacceptable to not have a network of expressways.

I'm not completely convinced by your reasoning.

What I described applies to many truly rural areas where major towns and cities are very far apart - you are essentically talking about an overall density similar to Wales (Yunnan 112 ppl/sqkm, Wales 140 ppl/sqkm), and these areas, usually mountainous, are neither likely or suitable to have significant population rises. In these places it seems to make no sense at all to have 2 (sometimes huge) roads running parallel.

As China is still in the process of developing, it's much easier now to encourage people to use public transport, so it'll never be in the sorry position America is now in, where car-dependency is unsustainably high, ugly roads ruthlessly cut across the countryside and people's minds are set like stone.

BarbaricManchurian

September 4th, 2009, 09:29 PM

^^usually they connect two huge cities far apart, such as Kunming and Chengdu, and Wulumuqi and Lanzhou, so there might not be much population between the cities, but that doesn't mean they are useless entirely; I still think there will be significant intercity traffic.

big-dog

September 13th, 2009, 06:29 AM

The last section of Beijing 6th Ring road, West 6th Ring is completed and opened on Sep 12 2009.

Total length: 187.6km
Cost: 19 billion yuan
Speed limit 80-100kmph

http://www.chinanews.com.cn/news/2006/2006-02-06/8/U49P4T8D686371F107DT20060206100140.jpg

http://image1.chinanews.com.cn/09p/PhotoN/090911/090911197fa_3.jpg

http://image1.chinanews.com.cn/09p/PhotoN/090911/090911194ta_3.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/bh0dxc.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/im546h.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/eqvuvd.jpg

General Huo

October 2nd, 2009, 05:19 AM

desert highway in Xinjiang
http://img.ifeng.com/tres/finance//upload/images/2009/0925/134940/49_1283535_60ad6645af8bc41d470bdd458be02ebc.jpg

http://u.8264.com/attachment/200905/6/33714284_1241604778IzaQ.jpg

http://u.8264.com/attachment/200905/6/33714284_12416047781lPm.jpg

http://u.8264.com/attachment/200905/6/33714284_12416047799YX9.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/12243892.jpg

Bobek_Azbest

October 2nd, 2009, 08:26 AM

http://u.8264.com/attachment/200905/6/33714284_12416047799YX9.jpg

This is interesting. Is it to prevent road being covered with sand?

BarbaricManchurian

October 3rd, 2009, 12:39 AM

^^yes, and also to prevent excess desertification.

SqueezeDog

October 4th, 2009, 01:54 AM

desert highway in Xinjiang
http://img.ifeng.com/tres/finance//upload/images/2009/0925/134940/49_1283535_60ad6645af8bc41d470bdd458be02ebc.jpg

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How are these "sand stoppers" made and for how long do they stretch?

Rebasepoiss

October 4th, 2009, 10:31 AM

^^ These remind me of the rows of piceas we have next to many of our highways. They were planted during Soviet times to prevent blowing snow on the road.

PeoplesPoster

October 6th, 2009, 07:31 AM

How are these "sand stoppers" made and for how long do they stretch?

There are different methods. The one there is a woven straw matrix that helps hold down sand and plantings. They can stretch pretty huge distances hundreds of miles. I think the idea for these is that they'll last long enough for the plants to take hold after which the root systems will hold the soil together.

staff

October 12th, 2009, 09:15 AM

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2009/200910/20091012/article_416026.htm
City roads renamed in national unity drive

By Dong Zhen | 2009-10-12 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

ALL Shanghai expressways will receive new names and numerical codes over the next five months as part of a nationwide initiative to create a unified naming system for highways.
The city had already started to replace its highway signs and this process would continue until next March, the Shanghai Highway Administration said yesterday.
Drivers may find the new highway codes confusing in the early stages, and officials have taken measures to head off this problem.
Authorities are printing 2 million free illustrated pamphlets, which will be distributed at major toll stations and transport hubs to inform drivers of the changes.
Traffic police have begun setting up temporary signs designed to help drivers understand the changes.
These signs may stay at key highway spots for months or even longer, police said yesterday.
Two around-the-clock hotlines, 5911-5999 and 12122, have been set up to handle driver queries.
Information on the changes is also available on the local construction commission's Chinese Website, www.shjjw.gov.cn or the highway administration's Chinese Website, www.highway.sh.cn.
In Shanghai, eight national expressways and nine provincial-level routes will have new names and codes under the unified standard.
For example, the A11 or Shanghai-Nanjing Expressway, has a new code, G2, as it is part of the Beijing-Shanghai Expressway.
The new standards require all national-level expressways to start with "G."
The changes in road names are necessary as new regulations require that any national route should only be identified by a combination of the names of the cities at the starting and finishing points.
The new system will eventually make things clearer for drivers as fragmented regional names now point to the same expressways that run through different cities and provinces, highway officials said yesterday.
Provincial-level expressways in Shanghai, as well as other parts of China, will have codes starting with "S" as well as improved names in line with the new national standards.
Traffic signs on the city section of the G2 will all be replaced by the end of this month.
The whole campaign would involve building thousands of new signs in the city at a cost of nearly 200 million yuan (US$29.30 million), traffic police said yesterday.
The new nationwide system has red as the logo color for national routes and yellow for provincial expressways.
Highway officials stressed that complete signs carrying both the road names and codes would only appear near toll gates or major entry-exit ramps. Code signs would be scattered along the routes themselves.
"It's crucial that drivers check up on the routes before heading out," Wang Weiheng, a highway administration official, said yesterday. Wang said there would not be as many signs under the new system.
The new naming and coding rules are in three categories - for routes starting from Beijing and for west-east and north-south routes.

Read more: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2009/200910/20091012/article_416026.htm#ixzz0Thg7h1yL

BarbaricManchurian

October 12th, 2009, 06:34 PM

^^finally!

staff

October 12th, 2009, 06:48 PM

Agreed! These things are what plague developing countries a lot in my opinion-- lack of proper standardization and so on. It is essential for China to be developing it at this stage.

NCT

October 12th, 2009, 11:54 PM

There definitely needs a comprehensive and systematic road numbering system in China. Predictably a lot of Chinese people are dead against this change.

BarbaricManchurian

October 16th, 2009, 02:16 AM

^^agreed, though the existing expressway names aren't bad, as they tell which two cities it connects, so it's good they won't be removed. However, having a road number as well won't hurt.

gramercy

October 22nd, 2009, 12:34 PM

hmm, i just measured the highway from Shanghai to Nanjing on google earth

its a continuous stretch of 2x(4+1) for 250 kms :o

staff

October 28th, 2009, 09:38 AM

Found some Shanghai highway photos in the Chinese forums:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ZYMBHjjBde8/Sshyvmn61II/AAAAAAAAG4M/NTYx85WUMLU/s800/DSC_722.JPG

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Jiangwho

November 7th, 2009, 11:35 PM

Xibao Expressway
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