This 16 storey building has been approved for Adelaide's North Terrace, construction will begin in a few weeks.
This building will be 16 stories high, and be around 45m tall.
It is a mixed use building, as the bottom 8 floors will serve as a public carpark, and the top 8 floors will be luxury apartments.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pa3cbd3c4a0b0608fc9878b4f915774c0/fcb11848.jpg

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looks interesting - 8 levels of "public" car park though ?

what were / are the prices for apartments up the top ?

cheers

tays

Tayser - the 8 levels of carparking is for the thousands of people who come into Rundle Mall each day, but undoubtedly some of those spaces will be secured for the tenants.

The prices of apartments in this new tower will range from $300 000 to $1.65 million for the top level penthouses.

Will - that picture refuses to work. :mad:

Tays - They'll probably make more money from the car-park than they would with the apartments.

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Adam - sorry I can't help you with the picuture, if it continues to refuse to work try buying this Saturdays Advertiser, because for the last two weeks they've had a full page advertisement, and they'll probably have another one this week (real estate liftout)

I can see the picture alright. :)

Get Culwulla to add this to the 223 North Terrace page of ss.com.

i can see that car park being an eyesore
a boring wall of concrete !!
you would think a few floors of retail would be much more suited to the area as its right near the mall and david jones

I'm not sure, but I think the building is actually 17 levels, not 16, because there are 8 levels of carpark, 8 levels of apartments being built on top, and ground level where there is retail and the carpark entrance.

The carpark is already an eyesore chrisaus, it would look better after the redevelopment is complete but it would look better if it had some similar sized neighbouring buildings around it like at the western end of North Terrace where there are about 7 buildings around 50m tall each bumper to bumper and basically touching each other.

The picture's working now. Damn computers. :)

The balconies on that thing remind me of egg cartons.

also if there going to have a carpark they should have to put the entry up a rear lane or something
who wants to go shopping and have car park entries separating the shops, and having to watch out for cars on the sidewalk etc...

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Pedestrians have right of way in driveways (in theory at least), but I still hate crossing them.

That car park already has its own set of lights anyway, IIRC.

Traffic lights control the entrance and exits of this carpark building as Adam said.

Is it just me, or is there an echo in this thread?

:moods:

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That wall of concrete has been there since the 60's.

Will, thanks for the scan. I must say, I welcome development in Adelaide, but that is just fugly as hell :D

*edit - it's actually starting to grow on me. But couldn't they at least do something to upgrade the facade :(

*edit again :) - damn, why does the render on ss.com look 7 trillion times better? Please don't tell me the museum complained about that other proposal.... that's the best bloody thing i've ever seen! aaarrrgrgghhh!!!!

I live the redevelopment. It's a marked improvement, and complements DJs next door.

Yob - the first time I actually saw the building, i thought it was extremelly ugly, but after starring at it, it kind of grows on you, and now I think it's a competent looking building that will improove the look of the area, and the city skyline from Light's lookout.

And yes the old proposal, that is on SS.com was scrapped because the museum, art gallery and the university complained about the look of it, those institutions have less concerns about this new proposal.


AG - The building is 16 stories and 45m high.

Just to re-fresh the memory, this is the original proposal, which has been scrapped for the current one:


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p33fd554ad886eca6ccdf19a99fbf85a3/fcf87ae1.jpg

Heh, my opinion of this building is swinging back and forth every time I look at it. There's a small ad for it in today's 'tiser, and it does look a little better than the scanned pic, colours are a tad more vibrant. I could almost like it I think... we'll just have to wait and see :)

If it turns out being a stinker, they can just plant a few more trees in front of it just in case :)

I don't think it'll look bad when it's finished yob. :)

Does anyone know when we are gonna see construction start on this???

Construction will start by May 7 or more likely, late April.

yeah late april 2004

whoa! That original proposal looks huge! Whilst I don't mind the design, I could question whether it would have fitted in on north terrace.

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Construction will begin before May 7 of this year.

Damn, that is one err, 'interesting looking' building! What a shame, the original proposal looks much better.

I'll just be happy to see some cranes rock up on the site. Anything would look good on that site. Even though this design is not as good as the first in my opinion, it will add to the street scape quite well when it's finished.

Construction start is not far away. Just a few months to go.

I'm surprised that no billboards or anything have gone up yet. Or am I just not looking hard enough???

No, there are no billboards or addvertisements about this tower up yet as of current.

There may be no bill-boards on site, but the developers are conducting an advertising campaign in the Advertiser.

According to Saturday's paper, Martin Towers has sold 15.7 million worth off the plan. Anybody know the total construction cost?

BTW, this development is starting to really grow on me!

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Yob - the total cost for this project is $50 million.

You would think with all of the press this project has gotten in the papers and so forth, there would be more signage at the location, to really exentuate the awaesome area that it is?

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but there are several different plans and projections of the building on display. They're in what I think is an empty shop on the ground floor of the existing building on Charles Street, just off North Terrace.

It was officially announced in the Saturday Advertiser, that construction has commenced on this landmark development.

Then, it should go onto SS.com as under construction!!!!!

Am I just not seeing the construction?? What have they put a bag of concrete on the roof or something. Am I blind cos I can't see any construction starting??

They're taking their sweet time.

There was a concrete truck on Austin Street yesterday with its arm reaching up to the 5th or 6th floor of the car park. A bit of preparation, maybe? It was only one truck so don't get all excited and add it to "Under Construction."

And now there's a bit of scaffolding on the roof.

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Just because there isn't a big crane on the site, does not mean construction hasn't started...

Construction probably has actually started on the roof, judging by the fact that there is scaffolding going up, and some of the building materials around the building as well recently. The crane doesn't always go up straight away, it is only put up when it is required.

According to the ad in the paper, 81 apartments sold, construction started.

Construction definatley has started. the cement black Adam took a photo of are the bases of the protective scaffolding which is currently being put up. The side street was being blocked off andthere was plenty of goings on on the roof. On a side note next doors 14 storey jobbie looks like it's not too far off to sart either. It was being blocked off ready for demolition when I saw it today.

You're absolutely right pikey, cause I was there this morning as well. :D There are concrete blocks around on Austin Street as well.

Should be fun watching at least 3 cores (2 cores for 223 and one for the other!) and 2 tower cranes (I guess one each) operating in such close proximity!!!!

Originally posted by pikey

Construction definatley has started. the cement black Adam took a photo of are the bases of the protective scaffolding which is currently being put up. The side street was being blocked off andthere was plenty of goings on on the roof. On a side note next doors 14 storey jobbie looks like it's not too far off to sart either. It was being blocked off ready for demolition when I saw it today.

You know it's a good sign when you start forgetting about developments :D Ah yes, the 14 storey doodad, if I remember correctly it's fugly as hell, but it's 14 storeys! :D

What north terrace desperately needs now is a nice big thin fuck off resi sitting in front of the education building on the north terrace side - there's enough room if the 2 level jobbie gets hammered. Either that or replace that frickin facade... man, i will not get a good nights sleep until we win a showd.. er.. until all the fuck off ugly brutalist buildings in the city are gone!

Was down at the bay today, man, gleneld and adelaide are racing eachother, loving it!

I know what your talking about. The Building, not the showdown!!! That's our claim!!

So that would mean, currently under construction in Adelaide:

Air Apartments (15 Levels)
223 North Terrace (16 levels)
227 North Terrace (14 Levels)
Horizon Apartments (18 Levels)
Commonwealth Law Courts (12 Levels)
Liberty Towers (15 Levels)
City Cross Shopping Centre (16 Levels)
That 8 Level hotel thingy near Rundle street (8 levels :D)

Not bad for a city that has "no construction at all"

I apologise if I have forgotten anything - nah not really!

I see a lot of mistakes in your list pikey. :)

227 North Terrace is 13 levels, Liberty is actually 13 levels including the ground floor and penthouse level, Liberty is 12 levels, and Majectics Hotel is 9 levels.

Then there are a heap of buildings u/c in the cbd ranging from 3-11 levels.

ahem....... 227 North Terrace is 14 levels my boy.....

http://www.capcity.adelaide.sa.gov.au/projects/projects_details.asp?ID=305

Now never doubt me again or I'll bitch slap and unleash the people's elbow on you.
CAN YOU SMELL, WHAT THE PIKEY, IS COOKING??

I really apologise for the Rock flashback!!

Yuk, that doesn't smell good at all pikey... :puke: :fart:

Originally posted by pikey

ahem....... 227 North Terrace is 14 levels my boy.....

http://www.capcity.adelaide.sa.gov.au/projects/projects_details.asp?ID=305

Now never doubt me again or I'll bitch slap and unleash the people's elbow on you.
CAN YOU SMELL, WHAT THE PIKEY, IS COOKING??

I really apologise for the Rock flashback!!

According to that page, it's cost is.... 1.8 million.

Dodgy construction co or dodgy website with potential to have other dodgy figures such as floor count... :)

Me thinks that the decimal poit is playing funny buggers.
The rest of the website is worth a look though

Originally posted by yob

According to that page, it's cost is.... 1.8 million.

Dodgy construction co or dodgy website with potential to have other dodgy figures such as floor count... :)

We'll soon fine out when 223 North Terrace is constructed. :D

STILL, IT'S ALL GOOD!

pikey: You should be telling me what's wrong here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?postid=611374#post611374), OK? :)

I got caught up in the moment, you can't blame me for that can you??? :cool:

Anyhow duck, you have the first construction pic of this bitch, albeit some concrete blocks, it's still a start!

any new tower developments in Adelaide are welcomed..good stuff! :cool:

From Saturday,

It's on it's way!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/pf465ca00cc0b1a7ed5e61a7ba717ea36/fb8e8ed0.jpg

Cheers

I took one today, but had I known you had that up your sleave, I wouldn't have bothered - yours is better.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/martins-small.jpg

Guys, check out the Austin Street side of the building too, they are putting up scaffolding around parts of the top.

Things are moving along very nicely on 223 North Terrace.

I think the tower crane will be up within a 2 to 3 months.


BTW, are they demolishing the small 3 level building on Austin Street?

hey dudes, yeah its coming along now i walk past it on the way to uni every day, i have to say they have but these huge plonks of conrete on the pedestrian strip and painted them yellow there are like ten of them they are so ugly!! they are for some sought of pagola thingy ill give ya updates as i walk past there 4 days a week:D oh yeah just thought id tell ya i started my urban and regional planning course at unis on monday and its AWSOME!!! its soo cool and interesting and the people are really open im so glad i swapped courses im going to love this course it rocks!! catchyaz.

Whats with power lines in the middle of the city?!? Your state government should work to sink them all.

It's happening. All of North Terrace is getting done

Did any of you guys check out the awesome render in Saturdays Realestate section??? By far the best render I have seen of this project!

Yup, that was a great 3-D night rendering of the building.

Is it the same as the one on the ~4 story billboard they've put on the side of the carpark?

Originally posted by AtD
Is it the same as the one on the ~4 story billboard they've put on the side of the carpark?

Nope. Look at the are of the facade where the old carpark meets the tower - the edge is now bordered by white edges or something or rather.

It gives us the first look of the side though - the cream coloured car park with the diaganol openings showing the ramps down each level of the car park will be replaced by a grey wall the whole way... hmmm

DA APPROVED!!! NORTH TOWER TO BE BIGGER!!!

http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com.au/council/publications/Dev_Registers/approved/aug03approvalplanning.pdf

Have a look on page 15 of this PDF, the North Tower is to be changed taking the total apartments from 94 to 111!!

Taller maybe????

:D

Pikey, "internal layout ammendments" - same size tower, smaller apartments :(

Developers getting greedy maybe??? Good selling results so they'll whack more in maybe

Anyone had a captian cook down here lately??? Surely the Tower Crane cannot be too far off???

Nah nothing much seems to have happened over the last... month? There was still only one story of scaffolding on the roof on Friday.

Went past just then and ther was 5 cement trucks lined up dumping their load into a pumping arm. And from my 3 second look as i was driving past, I'm sure I saw a tower crane base, a black one on the Eastwest Appartments side

Originally posted by pikey
Went past just then and ther was 5 cement trucks lined up dumping their load into a pumping arm. And from my 3 second look as i was driving past, I'm sure I saw a tower crane base, a black one on the Eastwest Appartments side

I think you are right, Austin Street would be the most favourable location for a tower crane.

When I went past the site on Saturday night, I did notice that Austin Street has been practically closed to traffic.

Said concrete pumping arm, with the Eastwest Apartments site next to it.

http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/MiscDates/picture%20012_std.jpg

I'm surprised that t is this far into construction and no crane, even though I am sure I saw the base there today.
I did hear though that there is a crane shortage in SA. Most of Ours have gone to Victoria, first our fucken GP and NOW out cranes!!! Bastatds! I mean it's not like they have anything under construction there at the moment? ;)

I braved my irrational fear of heights for this photo boys :p


http://www.netspace.net.au/~smicik/martintowers031003a.JPG

Phuk Yob!! Great photo mate!! You should really challenge your fear more often! How are you gonna go if we manage to get on the roof of Santos at one of the meets??!!

Which building did you take this happy snap from??

Could you make out a crane base or core framing at all?? I just can't make out much there at the moment. Top effort all the same though!!

Originally posted by pikey
Phuk Yob!! Great photo mate!! You should really challenge your fear more often! How are you gonna go if we manage to get on the roof of Santos at one of the meets??!!

Which building did you take this happy snap from??

Could you make out a crane base or core framing at all?? I just can't make out much there at the moment. Top effort all the same though!!

It's from within one of the external glass elevators on the renaissance building in the mall, level 7. I got a nice pic down rundle st aswell, but I can't really start a thread for one pic. Rest assured if we went up Santos i'd piss my pants then faint.

That ugly brown thing on the left edge of the photo I think is where the original core ends, so they'll prolly build onto that? I'm no engineer tho...

I also passed the buildings through the arcade today. They've really started pumping away to get the foundations done. There was a truck loading concrete into the pumping machine as I passed.

My mum had a bit of a fear of heights too, but she jumped out of a plane in New Zealand today, and she loved it!!!

Back to the topic...

Now we know where to get our construction shots for both of these babys! Good find man!

Originally posted by pikey

Now we know where to get our construction shots for both of these babys! Good find man!

Might get some strange stares mate... :D

Don't worry about stares AG!! When I was taking some shots of the Commonwealth Law Courts from Carrington St, I got a visit from the Cops later in the arvo. Since I took the shot from my car, as it was pissing down, they thought I was some kind of info guy for terrorists, scoping the place out!! They made me show them the photos and everything. Once the knew about it all and my geeky obsession with scrapers, they were cool.
I quietly shit myself in the meantime though!!

Still more concrete trucks, and no sign of a crane

Is it just me or is this the slowest, most boring construction site in the city??? Seriously are they building this thing one concrete bag at a time, WTF is going on here???

There was another bag of concrete added today, I momentarily sustained an erection at the sight of it.

Originally posted by yob
There was another bag of concrete added today, I momentarily sustained an erection at the sight of it.

You were that excited?!!! Just for one bag of concrete? :eek2:

Originally posted by yob
There was another bag of concrete added today, I momentarily sustained an erection at the sight of it.

Now come on, this isn't the Eureka thread.

A new piece of scaffolding has been added - the height of this under construction tower has now effectively doubled.

I went past North Terrace yesterday and I was really dissapointed to see that absolutely nothing has changed on this construction site since August of this year.

I wonder if the developers went broke?

Originally posted by Will
I went past North Terrace yesterday and I was really dissapointed to see that absolutely nothing has changed on this construction site since August of this year.

I wonder if the developers went broke?

Will - check out the above construction pics. What they ahve been doing is filling that grid like foundation with concrete before they can start rising the floors. Last time I looked from the renaissance center all of these squares were now complete, so we can actually expect to start seeing rises soon!

Originally posted by yob
Will - check out the above construction pics. What they ahve been doing is filling that grid like foundation with concrete before they can start rising the floors. Last time I looked from the renaissance center all of these squares were now complete, so we can actually expect to start seeing rises soon!

Thank God!

Someone wake me up when this thing finally gets off the ground... I mean the carpark. Other projects will probably start and finish before this one gets further than it's foundations! :moods:

:goodnight

I can't wait for eureka-itis to strike this thread.

When we get our first floor rise, everyone will say "OMG it's RACING ALONG!!!!!!!"

It's February 2004, and nothing significant has happened since August of last year.

Maybe the status of this project should be changed to 'on-hold' on SS.com?

Originally posted by Will
It's February 2004, and nothing significant has happened since August of last year.

Maybe the status of this project should be changed to 'on-hold' on SS.com?

Have you been to the site recently? It has had a semi floor rise, with a new "roof" constructed on the old top floor. It's nothing bt rising from now on, and I saw cement trucks at the site today.

I think the initial re-inforcing of the original building stage was almost as big as the actual building phase... so yeah, I'd expect it to rise quite quickly from here :)

Originally posted by yob
Have you been to the site recently? It has had a semi floor rise, with a new "roof" constructed on the old top floor. It's nothing bt rising from now on, and I saw cement trucks at the site today.

Yes I went to the site a few days ago, but it still looks the same to me...

Maybe next time I'll take more notice of the small changes that have occured.

There was a crane taking up what looked like tower crane pieces to the roof on Saturday. May be something else, but from what I saw quickly, It looks as if crane is not far away!

Heaps of the scaffolding has gone, you can see what kind of shape the front of this tower is going to take. I guess it's the first floor plate???

Would this building just hurry the fuck up? Seriously.

I thought it had taken it in the ass and folded, until I saw a crane LAST saturday lifting more shit up. So i guess it's still going ahead?

I thought it had taken it in the ass and folded, until I saw a crane LAST saturday lifting more shit up. So i guess it's still going ahead?

Makes me wonder why they dont use the crane for Eastwest.

As you can see more work has gone on here since Yobs last shot. You can also see casting marks and a square section where the tower crane should appear, on the right hand side, very close to the east west crane...

http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/53465332.jpg

So thinks are happening, albeit so fucking slooooooowly.

This is a great project. I look forward to seeing it completed the next time i'm in Adelaide.

Well it looks like the new foundation is just about complete. By the time they start constructing the first floor, 227 North Terrace next door will almost be topped out. :|

My guess on the reason it's been so excruciatingly slow is that they've needed to carry out a whole lot of structural work on the existing building so that it can take the weight of the new floors. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to seeing this one take shape - hoping it really does look something like this

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid116/p0b2fde520ad7061cd17ca57f5c94f052/f8abaf3b.jpg

Activity! Site offices have been placed on the roof of the carpark and there was a mobile crane up there today as well. Took some pics, will upload when I have more time.

WE HAVE A CRANE!

The crane tower was put up today, but the 'head' isn't up yet.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pa3cbd3c4a0b0608fc9878b4f915774c0/fcb11848.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid116/p0b2fde520ad7061cd17ca57f5c94f052/f8abaf3b.jpg

Makes you wonder what the final design will look like. I prefer the original, the second seems to have white coloured borders on the top of the facade, which just kinda rub me the wrong kinda way. It spoils the continuity going up the structure (whatever that means). Anyways, i'm off to the library, might get a shot from the renaissance centre of our new tower crane thingy.

Here we go bitches, some crane tower action. Looks like a little bit of Melbourne coming to Adelaide!!!
http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/56445580.jpg
http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/56445588.jpg
http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/56445632.jpg
Has anyone seen a tower crane mounting like this??

Man, I was at the renaissance centre at about 1:30 and the both the elevators were busted? What's up with that :D Top pics pikester.

Yob, the elevators at the Renaissance Centre don't operate on Sundays cause the stuff above Toys 'R' Us is shut.

The crane's now up. Went past at 5.00ish and they were fixing the arm - its bloody massive. They could use the same crane for Eastwest if they really wanted.

Cool, gotta get a shot ASAP!

Okay Pikey, here you go man!!!! :runaway:

http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/58377753.jpg
http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/58377734.jpg

Has anyone seen this recently? A couple of weeks I walked past, and it looked to me that a partial floor rise was in process towards the Rundle street end, but it was only a quick look...

Yeah I got pics, will upload em tommorow

as promised Mr Yob

http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/60131109.jpg
http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/60131097.jpg

Nice little crane soft porn shot

http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/60131085.jpg

:cheers:

Just had a thought - how are they going to get elevators in this thing?

I was thinking they could simply extend the lift shaft already present, but that'll only work for the south tower. How will people get up into the 8 storey north tower?

Good point :P

They might possibly have seperate lifts planned for this which we can't see yet?

http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2004-07-22/picture%20090_std.jpg

http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2004-07-22/picture%20093_std.jpg

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Pikey, I can't find the thread, but there is another green crane coming your way to sit on that single green tower on a baulderstones job, the crane is a M380D, try and get some pictures of the serial number which will be on the round bit at the top of the towers ( the pedestal)

Thanks mate.

Hey Fav, I'm pretty sure that thread was the official cranes thread. Is a M380D simular to the crane shown above?

nice pics, should be good

looks similar pikey, but has fixed counterweights right up the back, it's a lot more modern.

Has anything happened on this building for ages? :?

Not since that last photo

One more level of the steel frame is in place on the south side. I have a photo of that from a couple of weeks ago, but well... i'm taking after this construction site, and basically can't be stuffed uploading :)

I remember joking that Eastwest would overtake this building. Well, Eastwest has topped out and the tower crane is gone... heh.

18 months of construction ,and this is what they have to show for it so far :)

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt20oct.jpg

Legal disputes mate.

Legal disputes?

Legal disputes?

Holding up construction.

I think he was requesting more detail of what the legal disputes might entail...

I think he was requesting more detail of what the legal disputes might entail...


Sorry guys, not trying to be a smart arse, but I can't say much more than that.

It does seem to be back on track though.

Hi, I work for Buchan Lee, the agents for this project. The hold up in construction was not due to any legal dispute, but was due to a problem with obtaining the title to the property. For sales information visit www.buchanlee.com.au.

Hi, I work for Buchan Lee, the agents for this project. The hold up in construction was not due to any legal dispute, but was due to a problem with obtaining the title to the property. For sales information visit www.buchanlee.com.au.


Sorry to disagree with you mate, but I know first hand that there were legal issues involved and that certain works were stopped because of them. Perhaps these were in the background of problems obtaining the title, meaning that delays would have been caused regardless, but either way, it's back on track now, which is great.

Cheers.

Cool pics

http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223nightaerial.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223night1.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223nightinside.jpg

should be cool when it gets finished!

fantastic complex! really like the style and image adelaide is going for. i still dont understand why they just dont build a nice stylish building taller than santos. it makes the city look old and slightly out dated, by having taller buildings i beleive a city looks much more powerful and dominant.

is there a height restriction in the cbd due to the airport or is it the councils idea?

adelaide needs to make the cbd like a central park for the south, it would look stunning and very different to other australian cities- but thats my 2 cents!

Both.

The airport is only about 10/15 miuntes drive from the city which is rougly 3-4 km away. If the flights go directly over North Adelaide from about 1km above it, the airports commision have a ruling that no development within a range of 900m either way up or down (doesn't matter up anyway) can be built. So, North Adelaide can ony have about 100m MAXIMUM, but the council likes it at about 30m MAX. Once again, same goes for the CBD if the flight path is 900m either way across (left, right, forward, backward) then no development can go beyond 100m. However, the council and airport have allowed 115m MAXIMUM.

Santos House is NOT meant to be 135m, its meant to be 115m. but if we develop south of the 'BIG' part of the CBD, eg: the Optus Building on South Tce, then we can hopefully see something at least 200m maximum, but then again the height is stopped because of aeroplanes and councils, and blah.

We have the exact same problem as Hong Kong, the airports too close to the city, and yet they BREACH the rules by 200m. And the building investors cant be sued cos theyre portetced, cos ones somethings up, its up. Unless something happened like 9/11.

So we have a shitty council, bad planning from the 50's/60's and no-where else to start a new cbd within a central location of the city, UNLESS.....

The New CBD took over the area of the airport and the main airport gets shifted back to Parafield and extened into the RAAF Base, cos theyre moving to Edinburgh anyway.... then we'd have city with TWO skylines, how cool's that.

but i doubt that would happen anyway....

You have no idea what you are talking about Shuz.

The height restrictions were brought into place during the early 90s. The State Bank Building as it was named back then was constructed in the late 1980s during the commercial boom at that time. The height limit for most of the city has nothing to do with the flight paths.

The airport at Hong Kong is much further out that you think. The old Kai Tak Airport was IN the city on the Kowloon side until they closed it for Chep Lok Airport which is some 15-20km west of Kowloon on Lan Tau Island. Even the old airport was fine with height restrictions. The Hong Kong Island side was fine because the runways were facing towards the areas east of Central, and west from Kowloon.

The airport cannot be shifted to Parafield because the land space is too small and would cause protest amongst the people in the surrounding areas of Mawson Lakes and Para Hills.

There is a CASA hight restriction over Adelaide, but it's far greater than the ACC's fuzzy-limits (which the state government can abolish or ignore).

No High limits != skyscrapers.

Edit by ATD:

This post was the straw that broke the camel's back. Cheers to the powers that be.

Now let's keep it on topic. :)

The Buchan Lee website has been updated with information about the structural design of 223 North Terrace. I'm sure this will be of interest ... www.buchanlee.com.au

Thanks for that update Derek. Is it possible that the site could host some larger, more detailed renders of the building?

Thanks Derek, interesting info. Slightly ironic isn't it that the special building technology was meant to speed up the program

I wasn't going to mention that :)

I think I saw the first steel structure in place for the north tower today. If so, well, it's about bloody time :D

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt22nov.jpg

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt26nov.jpg

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt26nov2.jpg

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt26nov3.jpg

Well it looks like the southern half has nearly reached full height. Wish they'd get on with the higher northern part though. Nice angles there yob, North Terrace looks great in those images.

The south tower is 5 levels above the concrete roof, so there's still a bit more to go on the steel structure.

*edit* or is there? Man, i've given up on trying to figure out this building without a comprehensive render of the whole thing. We've heard 16 levels for the north tower, 15 levels, and from my count it looks to be 14 levels. No idea.

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt25december2004.jpg

moving at such a frenetic pace, i must say...

I wish they could build this fast in shanghai.....ahem

What is taking them so long?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt18december.jpg

I'm happy - at least now I can see some progress...

I wish they could build this fast in shanghai.....ahem

What is taking them so long?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I reckon! Hate to be an investor waiting to make money off this one. Nearly two years and it's just starting to move!

what is this meant to be?

This is an apartment building on top of an existing car park.

Currently the northern side is beginning to take off. Only a few more floors on the northern side to go.

Coming along slowly:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/NthTce.jpg

everthing here is slow, how about we change our number plates to

South Australia: The State Of Sloths

Ahaha ahaha... oh. :hahano:

wow, being treated to daily pics - thanks Pants :okay:

yes this one still seems very slow, in spite of the legal issues supposedly having been resolved.

On the topic of North Tce generally, I was glad to read in today's Advertiser that the 2nd phase of the streetscape upgrade has gotten the go ahead.

wow, being treated to daily pics - thanks Pants :okay:

yes this one still seems very slow, in spite of the legal issues supposedly having been resolved.

On the topic of North Tce generally, I was glad to read in today's Advertiser that the 2nd phase of the streetscape upgrade has gotten the go ahead.

Yeah, I just found my digi cam after almost giving up on it and buying a new one and thought I might take a few pics for you guys.

I pass most of the major development sites a few times a week, so I'll keep the pics coming until I get lazy.

I was also glad to hear about Nth Tce. I love what they've done with it. The way they've opened it up so that the landmark buildings are more prominent is amazing. It doesn't seem like they've done much, but it's made a huge difference.

I hope an announcement for King William Street to Kintore Avenue isn't that far away. I was actually thinking while taking this pic (all while driving at the same time - multiskilled) about how far down they'd ideally go. I guess they don't need to go any further than the Morphett Street Bridge, but I'll be happy with whatever they do for now.

My neighbour who is well travelled in Europe and Asia told me yesterday that the city of Adelaide looks and reminds her of a cemetery. So much grey and black amd horrible landscaping like in Rundle Mall and Victoria Square.So here on North Tce we have black lightpoles again, when they could have been a nice pastel green or even a sandstone colour. As for that statue on the footpath of Edward 7th, if it had been moved 20 metres away from spoiling the view of the Heritage Building that houses the Bradman Collection, and not on the footpath, it would have been worth the effort. So much for the council morons who have no idea of beautification.

kota I'm sorry to hear you have a dim view of the upgrade. I would have said the precise colour of the lightpoles and position of one statue are pretty minor issues in relation to the overall picture - improved pedestrian flows, greater visual pemeability to heritage facades, higher quality of landscape finishes, improved nightime lighting, undergrounded powerlines etc. Council were not responsible for the upgrade although they had a small say in it - State government had a larger say. The design itself was undertaken by professional landscape architects, not council (you're right, Council wouldn't know what they were doing). Personally I agree most of Adelaide's public domain spaces are pretty ordinary, but in my mind this rates as a big exception when you look at the overall objectives of the upgrade, regardless of the precise colours they've chosen.

North Terrace is now, IMO, the best public space in Adelaide. Although I do agree they could have done more with the Edward VII statue. Perhaps move it back and put gardens around it. It looks like it was just dropped there randomly.

There have been numerous letters to the Advertiser over the years, asking for that statue to be moved off the footpath. I did go along when consulting some years back and suggested the London Plain or Chinese Maple trees which one finds on St Kilda Rd. I like the light posts, I am merely saying that I agree with my neighbour about the colour of black, as being akin to a cemetery.

I really like the improvements they've made to North Terrace, but I really hate the fact that they've taken 2 years to do something which would have taken 6 months in another capital city.

I really like the improvements they've made to North Terrace, but I really hate the fact that they've taken 2 years to do something which would have taken 6 months in another capital city.

As someone closely involved in streetscape upgrades in Sydney, I can inform you that it usually takes a long time to get things done here as well!

No offence, but part of Adelaide's problem is the simple fact that Adelaidean's tend to think that everywhere else is so much better and more efficient etc - believe me, it's not always true

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20004_std.jpg

As someone closely involved in streetscape upgrades in Sydney, I can inform you that it usually takes a long time to get things done here as well!

No offence, but part of Adelaide's problem is the simple fact that Adelaidean's tend to think that everywhere else is so much better and more efficient etc - believe me, it's not always true

Your totally right, its just that other places have a lot more development and hence cranes happening at the same time, so you tend not to dwell to long
on a specific development a lot as you would here in Adelaide.

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/223nt6april.jpg

nice shot there jacobsian ;)
this ones finally beginning to develop some form to it. Personally I like the extra scale and presence it's starting to add to North Tce here

Slow progress.

http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/11-Apr-05/picture%20028_std.jpg

very slow progress, anyone has any clue on when this is likely to be completed?

I'd hate to imagine how the investors would be feeling being out of pocket for so damn long now.

Hi all,

The Buchan Lee website has been updated with floor plans of the remaining apartments for sale. www.buchanlee.com.au

Is there a render?

Did you follow the link?

I have a feeling this building will be taller than what we expected.

From the latest photos it appears that only two floors have been built, and I recall that this building will have 8 floors. My point is that at 2 levels it's already as tall as Eastwest, therefore I believe that with an extra 6 levels to go it will exceed the 45m height it's listed on SS.com.

Maybe 50m...

From yesterday with a few pics of EastWest Apartments thrown in:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/8-5-05010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/8-5-05012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/8-5-05011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/8-5-05013.jpg

Geez I never noticed your update in this thread until now. Top shots! Maybe PM Cull and get him to add the second last shot to SS.com.

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/july4223nt.jpg

turned out very nice, only thing I remember of this thing back in November was walking over soggy carpet on the North Tce footpath :lol:

Got some pics from inside the actual construction site. Apologies for the mobile phone quality, but they were taken on a mobile phone ...

Looking at the South Tower from the North Tower:
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/jmconstruction10.jpg

http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/jmconstruction11.jpg

http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/jmconstruction12.jpg

Anyone read yesterday's Advertiser, page 13?
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/jm_pool_news.jpg

www.buchanlee.com.au

Great stuff Derek! Pics are fine :okay:

So now Adelaide can now boast the cinema complex with the most screens in the world AND the world's largest one-piece fibreglass swimming pool.

Hmm, looks promising. Rumour has it that one apartment has been finished, interior photos in the pipeline...

Great stuff Derek! Pics are fine :okay:

So now Adelaide can now boast the cinema complex with the most screens in the world AND the world's largest one-piece fibreglass swimming pool.
And the worlds first indoor ski hill...

Derek thank you for your contribution. Could you enlighten us as to how tall the building will be? Emporis has it listed as 45m? however I suspect this is in-correct.

another brilliant addition to the north terrace skyline or streetscape. whichever you prefer to think of it as.

Taken today. Having a nice impact on this part of the Adelaide skyline now.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/Nov-4.jpg

it is starting to look nice... lol, i realli like the sails on adelaide oval

Adelaide oval : The most picturesque cricket ground in the world!!!!!!

i didnt realise how far east it was. Why is it going so slow? maybe because theres a building already standing beneath it?

yeah, it takes longer 2 build on another structure because u have to connect the twoi together which is frustrating work. just like adding another floor to ur home really - takes longer 2 do than it would to build a new house altogther.

it'll be worth it, hopefully

I had a look along North Terrace yesterday in the basking sunshine and I think its simply stunning and wait until the new trees that have been planted mature. The architecture is devine and we south aussies should be proud of this area.

Pity they destroyed what would have been one of north terraces signature building, the exhibition centre, we should all give our parents a good kick in the arse for that one!

http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/archives/images/gallery/pic_postcard1.jpg

why was it demolished?

why was it demolished?

To bulid the ugly ligertwood and napier adelaide uni buildings in the late 60's. :(

So basically Adelaide has gone from one extreme to the other? First we approve the ruthless destruction of histoical buildings as such and now we don't even touch a 100 year old house? When will we get it right?

So basically Adelaide has gone from one extreme to the other? First we approve the ruthless destruction of histoical buildings as such and now we don't even touch a 100 year old house? When will we get it right?

It's not surprising seeing that hundreds of old buildings were torn down in the 1960s and 1970s. Some of them came close to being torn down, but were heritage listed and spared. One of those was Edmund Wright House at the northern end of King William Street. Some of it's neighbours weren't so lucky.

To bulid the ugly ligertwood and napier adelaide uni buildings in the late 60's. :(


And a car park! Makes it all worth while...

Hmm. Going down King Willim st, heading into town, it really stands out, and it isnt even compeleted.

Should be a good one this one. I havnt seen any renders yet on this thread. Heres a few :
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223night1.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223nightinside.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223nightaerial.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223sketch.jpg

It will have 111 Apartments in 2 towers. It will be 7 storeys high (above the david jones car park). According to the developers, it should have a fast erection time. i totally disagree.

It's not surprising seeing that hundreds of old buildings were torn down in the 1960s and 1970s. Some of them came close to being torn down, but were heritage listed and spared. One of those was Edmund Wright House at the northern end of King William Street. Some of it's neighbours weren't so lucky.

When you compare Adelaide's situation with the other large capital cities, I can confidently say that we preserved our heritgae better than most. And whilst we did lose some great treasures, I have been looking at old photos in the State Library and I have to say that the majority of buildings demolished did not have much architectural merit.

This building is really taking its time, better be good :)

it can be seen quite well when driving up the hill from the west to east on nth terrace near the casino.
the building really has a impact on that end of the city.

is that the same as the road that you go along when you go past the zoo, because it looks like a really big major building, heading to the city by that road

You mean Frome Rd?

yes

This is the tower (midrise) to be built along with it?
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/223nightaerial.jpg

no. thats the actual tower(s). just a nightime rendering.

So the second tower is behind?

No. The photo shows 1 main tower (North Tower - facing Nth Terrace) and separating the two by a plaza area is the South Tower. Its still on the same building atop the carpark.

Yes.
The north tower is facing North Tce, then there is a gap(not sure whats in the middle), then the south tower.

that massive fibreglass swimming pool?

Yea might be part of the space in between the two.
Im not sure, but I am sure that someone else does know. :)

Ok well contacted the developer today. Says that the building will hopefully be finished by mid 2006. He couldnt confirm the height for me. Also asked him if he has anymore projects in the pipeline. Theres nothing solid yet but there scouting for opportunities. In the mean time im going to try contact the Architect to find out more.

Goodnight. :)

Hi all,
Please note that the Buchan Lee website has been updated with details of the completed apartment in the South Tower. If you compare the finished product with the intial renders (not sure if anyone has these, if not I will put them up when I get time), you will find that the renders were remarkably accurate! Hopefully I will get some time to post more photos soon. www buchanlee.com.au

223 North TerraceCompleted Apartment in South Building


An apartment has been fast tracked by the developers to display the some of the final interior finishes specified by the project's architects. The theme for this apartment is 'RAW'. The other themes available for interior finishes are 'SHARP' and 'CALM'.

Yes, do post some pictures please if you are able to. Would be interested to see it..

Ok well contacted the developer today. Says that the building will hopefully be finished by mid 2006. He couldnt confirm the height for me. Also asked him if he has anymore projects in the pipeline. Theres nothing solid yet but there scouting for opportunities. In the mean time im going to try contact the Architect to find out more.

Goodnight. :)

If you could get the actual height of the building I would really appreaciate it, as the height listed on emporis is a guess.

well it looks <50m.

If you could get the actual height of the building I would really appreaciate it, as the height listed on emporis is a guess.

Im trying but for some reason I cant get a straight answer. No one seems to be sure about it. I keep getting redirected between people. Ill come up with it soon.

i remember getting a height of 45m/150ft? 3m for LMR.=48m.

Sounds bout right. Most of North Tce. Buildins are now hovering at around 50-55m Tall. This makes it look great.

i remember getting a height of 45m/150ft? 3m for LMR.=48m.

Yes that does sound about right. I questioned the height of this building because when you compare it with the Eastwest apartment building next door which is 38m, this one looks a lot taller. The height limit for that section of North tERRACE is 49.5m, so it could maybe that height as-well.

A pic from today:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/Feb5-2.jpg

i recently was flying over adelaide from the north-east, over north adelaide, and martin towers do stand out on the north tce skyline

Info on the building on builder Hindmarsh website.

Go to:

http://www.hindmarshgroup.com/construction/portfolio_sa.htm

This shot taken of South Tower from the south.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9417/photo0104060029wm.jpg

Bardoc you didnt link to that image properly.
put the full URL of the image in place of 7-02-06

Different aspects
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6471/littlelaneaspect0ah.jpg

I realise resolution quality not very good.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4468/penanglaneaspect5ah.jpg

Was it recently named Martin Towers?

Dont think so.
Every add for it in the paper, goes by the name Two Twenty Three...

It was originally called Martins towers.

']Was it recently named Martin Towers?


This project was originally proposed back in 2000, and the original look of the building was very different from the current design. If I can find a photo of the building I'll post it.

The name was changed to 223 North Terrace to capitalize on the North Terrace location of the building.

Bump.

This is suppose to be complete this month.
I havnt looked at it for a while, does anyone know if it looks almost complete?

Underneath the green covers, you can see its facade has taken shape. You can also glimpse it from the Mall. I hope they clean up the car park facade, it looks rather shabby.

Crane's still up so I can't see it being finished this month.

I was thinking the same thing, the carpark facade better be cleaned.

When complete this might looks really nice, kinda like Air Apartments.

It's no surprise the building looks similar to Air Apartments - the architect company Tectus designed both.

Hey Bardoc, nice info. I know you like correct spelling - Tectvs is has a 'v' even though it is pronounced like a 'u', a bit like 'Bvlgari' ...

Some shots from the construction level (a bit dated now) and a panoramic 'photostitched' North view.

http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/JMconstructionA1.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/JMconstructionA2.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/JMconstructionA3.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/JMconstructionA4.jpg
http://www.buchanlee.com.au/gfx/bar/JMconstructionA5.jpg

Great shots Derek. Yes I realised it was Tectvs after searching for their website (I think a big reason why it's spelt that way is because there is a big architect firm in London already called Tectus).