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Mikey
July 17th, 2005, 11:11 AM
Yes another thread gone, :cry: but never mind heres some info to remind us- 51 Lime Street 124.90m
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/78WillisBuilding_pic1.jpg

http://www.tvaerials.net/images/lime040405.jpg
April
http://www.tvaerials.net/images/lime040605.jpg
June
http://www.tvaerials.net/images/limepit080705rs.jpg
done in the pit...
http://www.tvaerials.net/images/limepit160705.jpg
Latest pit image from yesterday :)

The info board has been updated to include tower crane installation dates of the second and third weekend in August by which time the main tower raft sholud be finished and the core rising ;)

Mikey
July 18th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Webcams are stuck AGAIN :mad:

LondonerUpNorth
July 18th, 2005, 09:58 PM
I took a few pics today, I'll download them later and maybe post. None of the fencing around the site was open though :(
I think they're up to floor 6 on the small core? Not sure if that means if they're on target or not.

jef
July 19th, 2005, 08:24 AM
I hope the building will be more reliable than the webcams...

Cranesetc
July 19th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Mace told me today that the web cams are stuck as they are moving equipment into their new site offices: "Should be back in a few days".

WWW

http://www.cranesetc.co.uk

nezzybaby
July 22nd, 2005, 12:32 PM
was wondering why its been friday for a week now

Sikario
July 22nd, 2005, 12:49 PM
When the cameras are back working again, the main core will be so high it'll be out of shot.

Peyre
July 23rd, 2005, 05:32 PM
damn, just got back from hols up north, and was looking foward to seeing how Lime Street is getting on.

Remusable
July 25th, 2005, 02:01 PM
Seriously, how long does it take to fix a webcam..? :|

jef
July 25th, 2005, 02:11 PM
These webcams are as reliable as the starting date of the Heron Tower.

nick_taylor
July 26th, 2005, 03:12 PM
Wow this is going up pretty quickly!


Webcam 1
http://www.51limestreet.com/51limestreet/cam2/camputer21.jpg



Webcam 2
http://www.51limestreet.com/51limestreet/cam1/camputer20.jpg



The Limey Newsletter
http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/4914/thelimey1dj.jpg

Peyre
July 26th, 2005, 03:45 PM
I might go down and have a look tomorrow if webcams are still broken.

jef
July 26th, 2005, 03:52 PM
Can you take some shots as Mikey did? I am curious to know whether the second and taller core is on the up.

wjfox
July 26th, 2005, 03:56 PM
Nearly 2 weeks have passed since the last webcam update - there's bound to have been lots of progress made.

AndrewC
July 26th, 2005, 05:12 PM
Whats the building in the foreground of the first picture, on the left? Looks quite nice in a simple way.

Ciudad Bristol
July 26th, 2005, 05:31 PM
Richard Roger's Lloyds building.

Peyre
July 26th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Can you take some shots as Mikey did? I am curious to know whether the second and taller core is on the up.

will do.

Jake_the_Peg
July 26th, 2005, 06:00 PM
As Cranesetc found out for us, they are not broken but purposely disabled so we can't see what goodies they put in those portacabins and tell our dodgy friends.

Mikey
July 26th, 2005, 06:11 PM
I have emailed them complaining..... ;)

Turbosnail
July 26th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Another core's probably going up by now.

Mikey
July 26th, 2005, 10:24 PM
afaid not.... I had a look earlier nothing to report although the raft for the main tower looks almost readt for the pour!

AndrewC
July 27th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Richard Roger's Lloyds building.

:bash:

The one on the left.

Ciudad Bristol
July 27th, 2005, 05:04 PM
Oh, sorry. Thats 26 Leadenhall Street where City folk go to get their Benjys. Will check my Pevsner tonight for any further pertinent information.

AndrewC
July 27th, 2005, 05:05 PM
cheers matey.

God ilove this building, just the right height and massing for this area. Will do wonders for the skyline from waterloo bridge.

wjfox
July 27th, 2005, 05:40 PM
The best view will probably be from the South Bank, around City Hall - it will be very prominent from there. Actually, I'm going to do a rendering of that view.

Ciudad Bristol
July 28th, 2005, 11:14 AM
:bash:

The one on the left.

Nos 21-26 Leadenhall Street, 1953-6 by the Prudential Assurance's architects. Described by Pevsner as "insipid plain stone"!!

John
July 29th, 2005, 01:57 AM
I took a couple of shots yesterday evening, the site looks big :okay:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5011/scannedphoto786wd.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7032/scannedphoto800si.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6688/scannedphoto797fw.jpg

wjfox
July 29th, 2005, 02:36 AM
Excellent pics. Looks like the shorter building's core is up to the 8th floor.

eddyk
July 29th, 2005, 03:09 AM
If you count the basement.

What is the footpront of this building like?

nezzybaby
July 29th, 2005, 12:57 PM
wow i love that first picture with swissre lloyds and t42 in shot, its amazing

Peyre
July 29th, 2005, 01:36 PM
yeah that first picture is great. *cough* UPC ;)

that core has shot up :D

Turbosnail
July 29th, 2005, 06:32 PM
It's coming on well, it's also a shame we can't monitor it from the frigging webcams. The City will look incredible from the air once it's complete.

jimbo
July 29th, 2005, 08:52 PM
I had a meeting over by Plantation Place so also decided to grab a couple of snaps (not much different to John's though)!

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6973/img01220ug.jpg

wjfox
July 29th, 2005, 09:01 PM
That core looks fucking massive compared to those workmen... and it's only up to the 8th floor. The main tower's core will be more than 3 times the height of this.

John
July 29th, 2005, 10:52 PM
Any more renderings of this fabulous project? So far I've seen only 2 or 3. If somebody knows more it would be nice to dump them in here, please. :)

Sikario
July 30th, 2005, 01:37 AM
Have you seen these (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/imagesall.php?idi=Willis%2BBuilding&ref=78&selfidi=78WillisBuilding_pic4.jpg&self=nse&no=4&x=49&y=37) John?

John
July 30th, 2005, 02:00 AM
Have you seen these (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/imagesall.php?idi=Willis%2BBuilding&ref=78&selfidi=78WillisBuilding_pic4.jpg&self=nse&no=4&x=49&y=37) John?

I've seen all of these except the aerial one (I'd like to see a bigger version of this one though). But thanks anyway. :)

Fragmentor
July 31st, 2005, 10:58 AM
yeah, there seems to be a little lack of renderings on this one, it's one of the most interesting shapes to look at in renders though, shame there aren't more :(

gothicform
July 31st, 2005, 12:00 PM
lke this one you mean?

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/51L1.jpg

birminghamculture
July 31st, 2005, 01:46 PM
This is rising quickly, when HCT was being built we had a massive hole for months, but then it did raise very fast in the end. This is going to be a very nice structure for London.

London
July 31st, 2005, 05:12 PM
it is a quality structure, nothing less for London, and plus, the area seems incredibly dense whilst having a lunch break in the public space. when this is done, it'll be top qal

Turbosnail
July 31st, 2005, 06:30 PM
Wicked render. Not seen that one before.

Mikey
July 31st, 2005, 06:36 PM
The main core slab has been poured, also another tower crane is being constructed. I reckon the main core will start to rise this week :)

michal1982
July 31st, 2005, 07:12 PM
growing so fast!!! nice!!

Mikey
August 3rd, 2005, 11:42 AM
Just recieved info from Britsh Land to say that the webcam should be back on air tommorrow... :)

jef
August 3rd, 2005, 11:44 AM
Good. But for how long...

Bob
August 3rd, 2005, 12:04 PM
I think this will actually look better in real life than in the renderings. The one thing the renders don't seem to capture too well is the quality of the buildings around this. It is no exageration to say that if 122 Leadenhall and Bishopsgate are built this spot will house one of the best collections of architecure in the world. Aside from Rogers masterpiece and Swiss Re there is a Lutyens bank (a Foster of the late Victorian), several quality churches and lots of top end neo-classical Victoriana. Nearly every building around there is remarkable in some way.

And there is even some superstars long since gone. Where Lloyds now stands the East India Company had their headquarters from which large chunks of the old empire were run. After that went bankrupt and the building became derelict Lloyds had their first building before the present incarnation. There must be hell of a cross over of ley lines there of something!

potto
August 3rd, 2005, 12:31 PM
:drool:

Sitback
August 3rd, 2005, 09:24 PM
What does the smaller building look like?

London
August 3rd, 2005, 09:30 PM
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/9151newlimestreettowertobeginimmediately_pic1.jpg

Providing more floorspace than the Heron Tower!!!

wjfox
August 3rd, 2005, 09:34 PM
The smaller building must be topped out already then - only 8 storeys.

Jake_the_Peg
August 3rd, 2005, 10:21 PM
I don't think this is the final, approved scheme with two buildings. No-one has posted here a rendering of that. Maybe none were released? Does anyone here actually know what the smaller building will look like, or know its height?

Jonny 5
August 3rd, 2005, 10:38 PM
The smaller building must be topped out already then - only 8 storeys.

The core is only 7 floors above ground.

Thats the design for the building Jake, the old design was connected to the main tower.

Mikey
August 3rd, 2005, 11:42 PM
the smaller tower is to be 11 storeys so it says on the hoardings!

Jonny 5
August 4th, 2005, 04:42 AM
2 basement + 8 above ground + 1 mechanical floor up top = 11

gothicform
August 4th, 2005, 04:55 AM
should be over 35m tall... just. excellent! anyone know how tall itll be?

Turbosnail
August 4th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Just recieved info from Britsh Land to say that the webcam should be back on air tommorrow... :)

(taps fingers!)

gothicform
August 4th, 2005, 04:03 PM
or this one -
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/51L2.jpg

Ciudad Bristol
August 4th, 2005, 04:58 PM
That one is quality!

nezzybaby
August 5th, 2005, 01:25 PM
tomorrow was yesterday when do we get our webcam back.... wish i was still in london could watch it with my own eyes, unfortunately can only afford to live their term time

Peyre
August 5th, 2005, 02:16 PM
Liars I tell thee!!! Liars. Won't be able to check it out until next week. £6 damn it, I either need an Oyster Card or Bus Driver's families should regain free travel privliges.

nezzybaby
August 5th, 2005, 02:20 PM
^get yourself a bike, transports to expensive in london.... apart from busses which are cheaper than anywhere else in the country

JDRS
August 5th, 2005, 03:50 PM
That's a great render gothic. Ever since seeing the initial renders for 51 lime street the building has grown on me every time I see it.

Peyre
August 5th, 2005, 06:04 PM
^get yourself a bike, transports to expensive in london.... apart from busses which are cheaper than anywhere else in the country

co-incidentally, cycling has been recommended to me as a therapy to my many problems. I'm still not keen on it due to the safety record of cyclists in the capital.

maxxam80
August 5th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Become a cycle courier like me

I used to do 90 miles on a saturday in central london

Its great fun coming home black with smog, death threats from road rage and going under HGV's


but honestly in the city I can see a strong business opportunity to set up bike parks etc

eddyk
August 5th, 2005, 10:39 PM
Cycle Couriers are the reason why the cycle death rate is high In London.

Skip lights...cut accross roads...no signals....

Peyre
August 5th, 2005, 10:49 PM
Cycle Couriers are the reason why the cycle death rate is high In London.

Skip lights...cut accross roads...no signals....

:drunk:

Fight! Fight!

Good point about Cycle Parks though. Cycling round London definately is one of these "new London hip things to do" as I like to call them.

Turbosnail
August 6th, 2005, 12:30 PM
New hip thing. You are having a laugh right?

wjfox
August 6th, 2005, 12:38 PM
Still no webcam... :(

Mikey
August 6th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Ive just been to have a look, they are constructing another tower crane (not the one adjacent to lloyds i.e tc01, but one right in the middle of the site about the same height as the one on right hand site of the site) also the main core slab is having its slipform constructed :)

Mikey
August 6th, 2005, 03:41 PM
click here to email mace (51limest@mace.co.uk) please email mace re the webcam, I did and got a rude reply :mad:

NothingBetterToDo
August 6th, 2005, 03:54 PM
co-incidentally, cycling has been recommended to me as a therapy to my many problems. I'm still not keen on it due to the safety record of cyclists in the capital.

I started cycling recently, i have found it alot safer than i thought it would be...just stick close to the curb and have a bit of respect for other road users and they usually have respect for you.

Also its SOOOOO much quicker than u expect it to be......its amazing how fast u can get to places u thought where miles away and would never have dreamt possible to cycle to.

gothicform
August 6th, 2005, 04:38 PM
rude reply mikey? shall i put it on my site? theres no need for people to be offensive.

Mikey
August 6th, 2005, 05:09 PM
This was my email to mace -

Hello again, please can you reinstate the webcam, The main core is about the start rising and we would like to watch!

thanks.

This is what I was sent-

May we politely point out that this website is provided in the public domain totally at our discretion
We appreciate your interest in our project
Mace Ltd

from Carlo Tugulu :(

jimbo
August 6th, 2005, 05:10 PM
I started cycling recently, i have found it alot safer than i thought it would be...just stick close to the curb and have a bit of respect for other road users and they usually have respect for you.

Also its SOOOOO much quicker than u expect it to be......its amazing how fast u can get to places u thought where miles away and would never have dreamt possible to cycle to.

ditto - have been cycling from my flat in West Ken to work next to St Pauls. Takea bout half an hour, route up High Street Ken and through Hyde Park, along Piccadilly, Shaftesbury Ave and then down Holburn to cheapside is great at abour 0645 in the morning. The sprint down Embankment in the evenings takes away lots of work stresses and allows you to totally switch off the work crap that has been going along in the day. Seems like there are lots more people on bikes at present, typcially about 30 of us every time I cross under Wellington Arch at Hyde Park Corner.

sorry Cabman, but most cabs are appalling - no signals, stop just about anywhere without warning and hate cyclists. Nearly wnet over the bonnet of one who pulled straight out in front of me on HS Ken last week.

But back on topic......... lawks, I like that Willis Building.

gothicform
August 6th, 2005, 06:20 PM
mace sound rather defensive about it! ill put that as an extra addition when i do a story on the main core actually rising above the skyline. heh. they can learn the value of having good pr.

Turbosnail
August 6th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Quite. First rule in business. Don't lock horns with people - you never know who people are.

NothingBetterToDo
August 6th, 2005, 07:59 PM
ditto - have been cycling from my flat in West Ken to work next to St Pauls. Takea bout half an hour, route up High Street Ken and through Hyde Park, along Piccadilly, Shaftesbury Ave and then down Holburn to cheapside is great at abour 0645 in the morning. The sprint down Embankment in the evenings takes away lots of work stresses and allows you to totally switch off the work crap that has been going along in the day. Seems like there are lots more people on bikes at present, typcially about 30 of us every time I cross under Wellington Arch at Hyde Park Corner.

sorry Cabman, but most cabs are appalling - no signals, stop just about anywhere without warning and hate cyclists. Nearly wnet over the bonnet of one who pulled straight out in front of me on HS Ken last week.

But back on topic......... lawks, I like that Willis Building.


sorry for turning this into the cycling thread :)...... i find cabbies can be awkward to say the least. But i find pedestrians the most annoying....they walk out into the road without looking causing me to slam on breaks....and its usually going up hill....Drives me mad......also on the rare occasion i ride on the pavement (very naughty i know - i might get £30 fine) some of them go completly go over the top and panic...darting all over the place...if they would just carry on walking in the direction they where going i would easily be able to work may around them giving them loads of space (i ride very slowly, just above walking speed).

But back on topic. I like this buidling, but im hoping the striped stainless steel cladding looks modern and not like somthing from the 1970's, this type of cladding hasnt worked on the buildings in Canary wharf, they look TERRIBLE. But fingers crosssed it will look good, Tower 42 carries it off well, but then again thats an old building too.

Cranesetc
August 6th, 2005, 09:28 PM
Hmm. The reply from Mace is a bit ignorant. It's not their building. I don't think British Land would be pleased to hear of their consultants attitude. They might be even more unhappy if they realise that they won't get a complete time lapse film of the construction because Mace let the cameras go off line for three weeks!

WWW

http://www.cranesetc.co.uk

Mikey
August 7th, 2005, 12:18 AM
I have now sent a message to British Land regarding Mace and the webcam!

Sy
August 7th, 2005, 02:35 AM
I've sent an email to Mace and CC'd info@britishland.com and webadmin@britishland.com too.

Fragmentor
August 7th, 2005, 10:47 AM
This is the e-mail ive just sent them, trying to be very professional, if they dont reply nicely i shall spam their inbox until they have to reinstate the webcams!!!

Mace,

I have been a follower of the Willis Building for several months now, but me and my friends at www.skyscrapercity.com have become increasingly frustrated at the fact that the webcams on the porject have been down for several weeks. Do you have any intentions to fix the problem? Several people have e-mailed I have been wisely informed, and have reciever rather disrespectful replies. I can assure you that I will not tolerate such rudeness when you reply to me at thomas_pratt_123@hotmail.com

thank you in advance for you co-operation in the matter

Thomas Pratt on behalf on skyscrapercity

hopeful;ly the jedi mind trick will work :D

gothicform
August 7th, 2005, 04:26 PM
jesus, so many children. *sighs*
thomas pratt on behalf of skyscrapercity??? eh?

Medo
August 7th, 2005, 04:33 PM
our very own ambassador :happy:

gothicform
August 7th, 2005, 04:36 PM
no one should EVER send out emails on behalf of the management of this site unless they are the management. its irresponsible, and completely ruins things for us.

Turbosnail
August 7th, 2005, 10:16 PM
Fragmentor, by saying you won't tolerate rudeness from them is locking horns with them. They don't have a duty to provide the webcam, it's just frustrating it's down.

Mikey
August 7th, 2005, 11:49 PM
^ Yes I wanted people to send sensible emails, I should have realised the average age of forumers is about 14 ;)

Sy
August 8th, 2005, 12:11 AM
I didn't mention skyscrapercity in my email, I think it is best they don't know who they are dealing with. If they think it's just a fan from a forum they won't take it as serious...oh well.

Jonny 5
August 8th, 2005, 03:10 PM
The archive for July is up on the website, so the cameras have been working and recording all the info they just haven't been sending the pictures to the website.

Medo
August 8th, 2005, 04:04 PM
that's good, a time delay picture is still possible :cheers:

Jonny 5
August 8th, 2005, 04:19 PM
Correction: I check the video against the webcam and it looks like archive video stops on the 15th of July. :(

Mikey
August 8th, 2005, 06:42 PM
I have spoke to British Land, they will chase - Mace to get it sorted no more emails required please ;)

Peyre
August 8th, 2005, 07:30 PM
went down today, couldn't see the main core bit, but there are now 4 Tower Cranes up :)

Sy
August 8th, 2005, 08:55 PM
I got a nice polite reply from mace saying that the cameras would be up within two weeks.

Jake_the_Peg
August 9th, 2005, 10:51 AM
Webcams back up!

wjfox
August 9th, 2005, 12:48 PM
Fantastic, the core will start flying up in no time :)


http://tinypic.com/a9prg3.jpg



http://tinypic.com/a9pt1h.jpg

Peyre
August 9th, 2005, 01:49 PM
ah, thats the bit I couldn't see, every entrance was blocked. The installation of the two cranes obviously means the main core will start going up very soon.

Mikey
August 9th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Excellent... :) You can see the small crane is being dismantled also they will be installing one big monster crane on the left hand side of the core and away she rises....

nezzybaby
August 9th, 2005, 06:29 PM
exellent we didnt miss much now can sit back and watch it rise

DarJoLe
August 9th, 2005, 06:49 PM
Would be able to see the core of Minerva rising in that second webcam.

Except we won't.

ROYAL BLUE
August 9th, 2005, 07:31 PM
are the cranes visable from a distance yet? any pics?

london lad
August 11th, 2005, 06:40 PM
latest newsletter for August is now online

http://www.51limestreet.com/pdf/newsletter06.pdf

Peyre
August 11th, 2005, 07:13 PM
nice to see an apology over the web cam issue. :D

wjfox
August 12th, 2005, 12:03 PM
The 1st floor of the main building's core has risen.


http://tinypic.com/adgi14.jpg


http://tinypic.com/adgia9.jpg


:happy:

Medo
August 12th, 2005, 03:14 PM
hooray! :happy:

Jonny 5
August 12th, 2005, 03:51 PM
The little core has gone up another level as well.

wjfox
August 14th, 2005, 01:15 PM
Just thought I'd re-post this aerial by Rikster2K - a really impressive view that shows the impact this building will have on the cluster (bearing in mind it will be taller than St Helens). Okay, it won't soar like DIFA or Leadenhall, but it's still going to have a SIGNIFICANT effect on the skyline.


http://img127.echo.cx/img127/6159/imgp01556sg.jpg


Btw, the site of the Broadgate Tower is in the top-right corner edge of this image, where you can see that green bit.

Medo
August 14th, 2005, 02:38 PM
wow I never knew this would be taller than St Helens :banana:

Jonny 5
August 14th, 2005, 03:09 PM
It is only a smidge taller.

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=6891&drawingID=34868 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=5704&drawingID=25293

Jonny 5
August 14th, 2005, 03:13 PM
Fucks sake, the webcams are stuck on Friday.

Mikey
August 14th, 2005, 03:16 PM
Smidge - 124.9m-117.9m = 7m ;)

rickster2k
August 14th, 2005, 05:54 PM
I was going to re-post my aerial shots, but don't worry Will, your quite welcome to post them - just a pity i couldn't get my brother to snap a load more of the city.

Jonny 5
August 14th, 2005, 06:23 PM
Smidge - 124.9m-117.9m = 7m ;)

The height isn't really anything to write home about though.

"The tallest building u/c in City of London is taller than a building that was built in the 60's"
:applause:

caw123
August 14th, 2005, 06:24 PM
Smidge - 124.9m-117.9m = 7m ;)

A massive 6% taller. :bash:

nezzybaby
August 14th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Fucks sake, the webcams are stuck on Friday.


that may be because its the weekend and people dont work weekends here... wait till monday im sure youll be pleasantly surprised

Jonny 5
August 14th, 2005, 08:40 PM
^The webcam was working 24/7 before it got all messed up in July.

I'll wait until Monday and then get pissed off that they only put the webcam back up for 2 days. :bash:

L8Hatter
August 14th, 2005, 09:15 PM
My only worry about this buiding is that it will completely block the view of Lloyds Building's eastern facade. apart from that I think it will be a fanastic addition to the City. As someone said above, it will have a huge impact on the skyline from Tower Bridge to the Tate Modern. Can't wait to watch this go up.

Mikey
August 14th, 2005, 11:21 PM
No Jonny it wasnt! working at weekends before.... hopefully it will be back tomorrow :)

Jonny 5
August 14th, 2005, 11:31 PM
No Jonny it was working at weekends before.... hopefully it will be back tomorrow :)

Freudian slip?

I'm pretty sure it was working at the weekends before.

Fragmentor
August 15th, 2005, 08:41 AM
hhmm, its rising very well, cant wait until it starts making an impact with a rising core on the skyline!

wjfox
August 15th, 2005, 10:34 AM
I'm afraid to say that the webcam is still down.

Time to start bombarding Mace with emails again I think...

Madman
August 15th, 2005, 10:42 AM
I'm afraid to say that the webcam is still down.

Time to start bombarding Mace with emails again I think...

Maybe it would be more sensible for you to wait a day before doing that.

Jonny 5
August 15th, 2005, 11:11 AM
I'm afraid to say that the webcam is still down.
:gaah:

Madman
August 15th, 2005, 11:15 AM
:gaah:

Hehe :D
Take it easy its not like the main core is going to be completed over a weekend is it!

Cat man do
August 15th, 2005, 11:23 AM
I heard on the radio this morning that the toping out ceromony is later tomorrow afternoon. Better get that camera working or we'll miss it all.

Mikey
August 15th, 2005, 03:01 PM
:gaah: - Whoops just noticed its working again ;)

Mikey
August 15th, 2005, 03:08 PM
http://www.tvaerials.net/images/lime150805.jpg

Look at the small cores.... they have shot up :eek:

Jonny 5
August 15th, 2005, 03:16 PM
Looks like cameras have only been refreshed once cuz they are stuck at 1pm.

DarJoLe
August 15th, 2005, 03:30 PM
That core for the smaller building seems a little bit...tall....

gothicform
August 15th, 2005, 04:06 PM
but its three under ground levels too.

Mikey
August 15th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Looks like cameras have only been refreshed once cuz they are stuck at 1pm.

My guess is they have a data traffic issue so they are only refreshing every couple of hours or so...

Jonny 5
August 16th, 2005, 12:26 AM
Nope the webcam was only refreshed once.

gothicform
August 16th, 2005, 12:47 AM
data traffic??? are they using a 2400 baud modem? lol

Mikey
August 16th, 2005, 10:24 AM
you know what I mean, with all of us continuely refreshing the images, they might of under estimated the interest :)

nezzybaby
August 16th, 2005, 03:58 PM
well its still not on today, so i think theyre having problems with it again

Peyre
August 16th, 2005, 05:52 PM
some smart Mace punk is probably messing us about.

wjfox
August 16th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Couple of pics I took this afternoon.

It was very noisy around the site - lots of activity going on.



http://www.willfox.com/images/london/1/3.jpg


http://www.willfox.com/images/london/1/4.jpg

clarky
August 16th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Good photos coming along fast now.

rickster2k
August 16th, 2005, 10:26 PM
Well those cranes are pretty big, different style ones as well with the counterweight slung underneath - anyone know what type/model they are?

I remebering when i was in Australia last year seeing the cranes working on Eureka and the MCG, they were gigantic - i think someone told me they were Favelle Favco's or something like that, and were the biggest of their type in the world!

Alex54
August 16th, 2005, 10:32 PM
The 2 big crane are TEREX COMEDIL CTL 400 :) and the other is a TEREX COMEDIL CTL 250
@+

alexandre

rickster2k
August 16th, 2005, 10:52 PM
Well done Alex.

Are they French built then? I don't know much about cranes, only that the two big manufacturers are Pontain, Liebherr and Favelle in Aus/NZ.

Cranesetc
August 16th, 2005, 11:15 PM
Comedil's hail from Italy, but they are owned by the giant Terex company which is US. Quite a lot of Comedils in the UK because the biggest fleet owner, Select Plant, prefers them.

Potain is french now owned by the US Manitowoc company. Liebherr is German and privately owned. Quite a few tower cranes in London are made by the now privately owned german Wolff company.

More photos of tower cranes etc can be found on the website below:

WWW

http://www.cranesetc.co.uk

jef
August 17th, 2005, 05:17 PM
The webcams work again:

http://www.51limestreet.com/51limestreet/cam2/camputer21.jpg

Mikey
August 17th, 2005, 06:37 PM
WOO HOO :pepper:

London
August 17th, 2005, 09:51 PM
Wow! Jef, you can see into the future! Is the 'helter-skelter' going to be approveg? :)

potto
August 18th, 2005, 08:29 AM
A ground shot view to show the exciting potential for future views, apologies for the dodgy photo merge :D

http://xs42.xs.to/pics/05334/51LimeStreet2.jpg

wjfox
August 18th, 2005, 01:52 PM
http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/51limestreet/3.jpg

Peyre
August 18th, 2005, 02:06 PM
oh god the gherkin is so Sexy in the sun :drool:

Medo
August 18th, 2005, 02:21 PM
yeah, very erotic :naughty:

jef
August 22nd, 2005, 09:41 AM
The aerial view given by BL:

http://www.britishland.com/images/aerial_limest_s.jpg

hella good
August 23rd, 2005, 10:03 PM
August 23rd:
there are three cranes up now!

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5200/dscf00943vl.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf00943vl.jpg)

wjfox
August 23rd, 2005, 10:17 PM
Excellent stuff, construction should speed up a bit now. :)

Mikey
August 23rd, 2005, 11:30 PM
There have been three cranes for weeks. the forth and biggest is due for installation this weekend... if they arent behind schedule ;)

Mikey
August 25th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Just notice that they have cleared the area which is to be the base of the biggest crane, in prep for the weekend's install (bottom left on cam1) :)

Alex54
August 26th, 2005, 12:07 PM
They install the forth crane :) :cheers:
alexandre

jef
August 26th, 2005, 12:08 PM
You're right: the fourth crane is now rising in the bottom left of the area.

Mikey
August 26th, 2005, 12:37 PM
:D

nezzybaby
August 26th, 2005, 02:13 PM
how tall is the core at the back now... its been too tall for the webcam for a while now

Peyre
August 26th, 2005, 02:19 PM
shouldn't of grown too much, it must be topped out now I think.

Mikey
August 26th, 2005, 08:35 PM
Have a look!!! they are pouring the main core :D

Chief Gherkin
August 31st, 2005, 10:58 PM
brilliant! It'll be toppin out before we know it!

London
September 1st, 2005, 01:28 AM
Yeh....it's at a speedy rate! :runaway:

wjfox
September 1st, 2005, 01:32 AM
^ Please don't hotlink from the official website.

London
September 1st, 2005, 01:52 AM
I'll quikly take it off. Whats the matter? Oh.....illegal, ok!

wjfox
September 1st, 2005, 01:59 AM
No, it's just better for following the tower's progress when we look back on the thread in the days/weeks/months ahead.

If you hotlink directly from the site, then the image is constantly refreshed.

It's better to save a copy of the image to your hard drive, then use either Tinypic.com or another site to host it, so the image is displayed as it appeared at the time you posted it (if you understand what I mean :) ).

London
September 1st, 2005, 02:16 AM
:dunno:











Jokin. :laugh: . Woh....i didnt know that! OK, maybe i'll just leave it to someone else. bit long! :dizzy:

Fragmentor
September 1st, 2005, 08:29 AM
ill have a go then London :)

Webcam 1

http://tinypic.com/bhg6xg.jpg

Webcam 2

http://tinypic.com/bhg7ed.jpg

Chief Gherkin
September 1st, 2005, 05:47 PM
maybe someone can help me out... On the webcams from what I can tell lloyds is on the left and swiss re is dead ahead. From the renderings I woudl expect that 51 lime st would tier upwards going from left (shortest) to right (highest). If this is correct then why is the core on the left the main core and shouldn't the one on the right be the tallest core??

If anyone can understand all that I would be very grateful for some clarification cos I'm getting confused. Cheers

wjfox
September 1st, 2005, 06:04 PM
The core on the right is a separate, smaller building.

Chief Gherkin
September 1st, 2005, 07:16 PM
thanks mate

wjfox
September 3rd, 2005, 03:04 AM
Here's a short (15 second) video clip from this afternoon:

http://www.willfox.com/movies/51limestreet.mpg

Sorry for the watermark at the start, I know it's a bit distracting!

London
September 3rd, 2005, 03:22 AM
Well that was fun :yes: :colgate:

rickster2k
September 3rd, 2005, 02:22 PM
Nice one Will - i presume that was on a camera phone - which one? The quality is pretty good.

wjfox
September 3rd, 2005, 06:27 PM
I used the movie mode on my camera (Canon Powershot A400).

I made a video of Tower 42 as well:

PC users, click here: http://www.willfox.com/movies/tower42.avi
Mac users, click here: http://www.willfox.com/movies/tower42.mpg

:)

Mikey
September 3rd, 2005, 09:42 PM
Have a look at the webcam, they seem to be boxing the core in, maybe its gonna have a doka type thing around it :?

wjfox
September 3rd, 2005, 09:47 PM
http://tinypic.com/dc3gao.jpg



http://tinypic.com/dc3gd0.jpg

Madman
September 3rd, 2005, 09:47 PM
What is a doka?

caw123
September 3rd, 2005, 09:51 PM
DOKA are a company that make self-raising construction platforms that usually go around concrete cores in highrise buildings. They allow work to continue whatever the weather.

Also known as slip formers.

http://www.doka.com/doka/en_global/index.php

caw123
September 3rd, 2005, 09:53 PM
I used the movie mode on my camera (Canon Powershot A400).

I made a video of Tower 42 as well:

PC users, click here: http://www.willfox.com/movies/tower42.avi
Mac users, click here: http://www.willfox.com/movies/tower42.mpg

:)

Lol, I bet those people passing by thought you were about to happy slap them! :)

Medo
September 3rd, 2005, 09:58 PM
I used the movie mode on my camera (Canon Powershot A400).

I made a video of Tower 42 as well:

PC users, click here: http://www.willfox.com/movies/tower42.avi
Mac users, click here: http://www.willfox.com/movies/tower42.mpg

:)

I did something naughty and clicked on the Mac version even though I have a PC :doh:

But it worked fine :happy:

Madman
September 3rd, 2005, 09:59 PM
Ah cheers, now when i go back to uni i can pretend i know all about them and seem oh so clever ;)

Mikey
September 3rd, 2005, 10:02 PM
^ yes Wils video had an eiry feel about it :eek:

London
September 3rd, 2005, 10:05 PM
:doh: The pc link doesnt work for me. Maybe i av a Mac :sly:

Peyre
September 4th, 2005, 02:01 AM
I'm guessing Mac doesnt support avi, but PC supports both ;)

jimbo
September 4th, 2005, 10:04 PM
lovely day down here in London Village so took a quick bike ride across town and got a couple more shots of the Willis Building, although the cores don't appear to have moved up recently. 4 cranes on site now. Couldn't resist a shot of the Gherkin with the crystal clear blue sky as a backdrop ;)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9741/img01805aq.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2539/img01799ao.jpg

Mikey
September 7th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Looks like the main core has all its panels in place and is now ready to climb! :)

london lad
September 7th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Also the latest newsletter is out

http://www.51limestreet.com/pdf/newsletter07.pdf

Mikey
September 11th, 2005, 02:10 PM
The tower crane in the bottom left of the cam 1 is being jacked up, yesterday there were about 5 or 6 extra sections on the floor but now there is only one left :)

Jonny 5
September 11th, 2005, 10:04 PM
The one of the right was the one that was jacked up.

Mikey
September 14th, 2005, 05:08 PM
Breaking News........ they are pouring the core :D
http://www.tvaerials.net/images/lime140905.jpg

DarJoLe
September 14th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Cor, what a core!

http://www.tvaerials.net/images/lime140905.jpg

wjfox
September 14th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Core blimey indeed. :)

Jake_the_Peg
September 14th, 2005, 05:49 PM
Has another part of the smaller building core also topped out?

http://tinypic.com/donbrt.jpg

Mikey
September 14th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Yep :D

Monkey
September 14th, 2005, 11:53 PM
lovely day down here in London Village so took a quick bike ride across town and got a couple more shots of the Willis Building, although the cores don't appear to have moved up recently. 4 cranes on site now. Couldn't resist a shot of the Gherkin with the crystal clear blue sky as a backdrop ;)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2539/img01799ao.jpgGreat photo Jimbo! :)

Jonny 5
September 15th, 2005, 04:00 PM
Webcam is down again.

nezzybaby
September 15th, 2005, 05:23 PM
lets hope its not down for long, looks like that main core is about to rise, dont wanna miss it.

Mikey
September 15th, 2005, 06:06 PM
Yeah bloody typical... the core is rising and we cant see it :mad:

Fragmentor
September 15th, 2005, 06:17 PM
fucking brilliant. But doesnt that pic by jimbo look spectacular :yes:

Jonny 5
September 16th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Webcam is back up and the core has started rising. :)

Madman
September 16th, 2005, 04:01 PM
...we have one floor :banana: :banana: :banana:

jef
September 16th, 2005, 04:23 PM
YEAH it is moving up!

Sikario
September 16th, 2005, 05:56 PM
How fast will the core rise, now that it's underway?

Tubeman
September 16th, 2005, 06:20 PM
The cores fly up... one or two floors per week I'd have thought

Jonny 5
September 16th, 2005, 08:14 PM
I think the core is planned for a completion next spring. So it will rise around one floor a week.

maxxam80
September 17th, 2005, 10:41 PM
eat this

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5048/img23366yh.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8355/img23155xm.jpg

wjfox
September 17th, 2005, 11:10 PM
Fuck...

And that's only the smaller core - the larger one will be over 3 times as tall (!).

rickster2k
September 18th, 2005, 12:18 PM
It really is going to be a big 'un!

wjfox
September 18th, 2005, 01:17 PM
They'll have to move the webcam once it gets above 8 floors or so.

wjfox
September 20th, 2005, 01:44 AM
Pics from today. The main core is clearly visible above the hoardings now. I reckon we'll see the 2nd storey by the end of the week.

I must say, this area of the City is stunning to walk around - the density and variety of architecture is fantastic.


http://tinypic.com/dvofwl.jpg



http://tinypic.com/dvohu0.jpg



http://tinypic.com/dvoi2r.jpg

Manchester Planner
September 21st, 2005, 10:37 AM
Nice photos - certainly the most interesting thing under construction in the City at the moment.

London
September 21st, 2005, 05:27 PM
Wow! remeber, its a floor per weak!

jef
September 22nd, 2005, 09:45 AM
Brilliant pics. Thanks Will!

Jonny 5
September 22nd, 2005, 06:11 PM
Looks like a large part of the box around the main core has fallen off.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3005/9camputer21_22rd_sept.jpg

DarJoLe
September 22nd, 2005, 06:16 PM
That bit behind the core is the curved back.

It's so exciting!

Madman
September 22nd, 2005, 06:24 PM
wow those workmen look tiny!... like ants :)

Cranesetc
September 22nd, 2005, 08:51 PM
The pieces laid out on the left hand side of the site are fabications which are being fitted to the right part of the central core. This should be ready to go in a week or two.

WWW

http://www.cranesetc.co.uk

jef
September 23rd, 2005, 09:10 AM
Second Floor:

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/8085willis.jpg

Madman
September 23rd, 2005, 09:19 AM
Yay, the only problem with watching cores is that its like wishing your life away waiting for it to get taller...

Jonny 5
September 23rd, 2005, 01:14 PM
Webcam went down last night when it was rising again.

jef
September 23rd, 2005, 02:58 PM
The three cores to the Fenchurch avenue have now all reached the top. It looks like the steelwork is being erected around these cores.

Mikey
September 23rd, 2005, 04:38 PM
I have not seen the core all week, as I have been down in deepest Devon, looking good ;)

JDRS
September 24th, 2005, 03:41 PM
I've been away too and to come back and see it beginning to rise up is great. :)

Madman
September 24th, 2005, 03:48 PM
I am sure that core is rising faster than one floor a week, its approaching 3 floors visible already.

wjfox
September 24th, 2005, 04:11 PM
http://tinypic.com/dy81nc.jpg



http://tinypic.com/dy81o6.jpg

Peyre
September 24th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Excellent. This will be a major world class addition to London. Though, cladding can make or break a building, lets hope its as good as the renderoids :)

london lad
September 25th, 2005, 08:50 PM
couple of shots of this from a different angle to the webcam- The core is clearing visible from the st & is going up very quickly.

http://tinypic.com/dzaxsl.jpg

http://tinypic.com/dzayig.jpg

Whilst I was here there was a very heavy downpour but the sun was still shining so took this one of Fosters other skyscraper ;)

http://tinypic.com/dzayrk.jpg

mrout
September 25th, 2005, 10:48 PM
That one of the gherkin is fucking brilliant!

Mikey
September 25th, 2005, 10:52 PM
Very werid pic.... :)

Jake_the_Peg
September 26th, 2005, 02:29 PM
I'm having trouble guessing the outline. Is this roughly where the building will be?

http://tinypic.com/dzwbde.jpg

capslock
September 26th, 2005, 02:32 PM
I'm having trouble guessing the outline. Is this roughly where the building will be?

http://tinypic.com/dzwbde.jpg

Er... no... not unless the whole building is only 6 storeys high and half the size on plan. Look at the second core to the right of that photo for starters

*EDIT* Unless that's a second, entirely different building. Can anyone bring up a plan?

DarJoLe
September 26th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Yeah but much much higher than that.

Jake_the_Peg
September 26th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Of course it's higher (I didn't think I would have to say that!)
I was wondering whether it comes right up to the hoarding, and whether I'm right in guessing that that gap between the rectangular and funny-shaped cores is indeed where the middle and highest block join.

DarJoLe
September 26th, 2005, 02:51 PM
The core on the right is for the seperate 9 storey building.

pirlo_21
September 26th, 2005, 02:55 PM
looking good

Fragmentor
September 26th, 2005, 03:01 PM
wow, Swiss Re looks absolutely amazing in that pic, fantastic London Lad!

Peyre
September 26th, 2005, 05:27 PM
yep, a bit of cloning can get rid of that light or whatever it is on the right, then enter it in the UPC ;)

capslock
September 26th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Of course it's higher (I didn't think I would have to say that!)
I was wondering whether it comes right up to the hoarding, and whether I'm right in guessing that that gap between the rectangular and funny-shaped cores is indeed where the middle and highest block join.

Well the office plates will wrap around the cores so will almost certainly come almost right up to the hoardings. As for the gap between being the middle / highest block division... maybe - it would make sense I guess.

wjfox
September 26th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Remember, this building will have almost the same floorspace as 30SMA... it's going to be huge.

London
September 26th, 2005, 09:05 PM
^^ But is that including the addition of the huge a storyer next to it?

London
September 26th, 2005, 09:41 PM
This might be a tad better. i looked at the render with a similar angle.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/tijjan/willis.jpg

Mikey
September 26th, 2005, 10:31 PM
nah it will have larger floorplates right up to the road !

Jonny 5
September 26th, 2005, 10:44 PM
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/622/9151newlimestreettowertobeginimmediately_pic1.jpg

You can see Lime Street in this rendering.
The building fills out the whole site.

lyonsdown
September 26th, 2005, 11:26 PM
What's going to be in the separate section?

DarJoLe
September 27th, 2005, 11:07 AM
What's going to be in the separate section?

Not Willis, I know that for sure. That's why it become a seperate building during the redesign, originally it was attached but Willis didn't need that much space.

This is taken by the edge of the seperate building, showing the back of the tower and the new walkway between the buildings. It doesn't come that close to the road but still closer than that core.

Also I've seen somewhere the road in front of the tower between it and Lloyd's may be pedestrianised. It needs it.

http://www.51limestreet.co.uk/images/image2.jpg

Fragmentor
September 27th, 2005, 11:39 AM
well pedestrianisation would certainly be a welcome change

Cabman
September 27th, 2005, 01:56 PM
I've noticed that quite a few renderings understate the roads to make the environment around the developments look more pleasant, but the reality is that roads are needed for access and the Lloyd's building needs access along that part of Lime St. Look closely at the rendering.

Mikey
September 27th, 2005, 07:31 PM
The smaller core has started rising ;)
http://www.tvaerials.net/images/limw270905.jpg

potto
September 27th, 2005, 10:51 PM
Also I've seen somewhere the road in front of the tower between it and Lloyd's may be pedestrianised. It needs it.

Ooo that would be ideal, that road pedestrianised would be great to walk along with Bishopsgate market entrance and a cluster of stunning high rises looming before you

Mikey
September 28th, 2005, 04:59 PM
The concrete is being poured again! I have spent the last half an hour following the two hoppers around the site on the webcams ;)