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Ndiw
August 12th, 2004, 05:45 AM
hey guys,
you've been talking about highrise skyscraping large cranes racing all over the city, glass covered all the shiny high resolution pics.. but...

anyone of you have pictures of old time pictures of jakarta, kemayoran airport or so? don't we miss our ancester's pictures?? ;) :cheers: :cheers:

sanhen
August 12th, 2004, 06:32 AM
There's a thread about old time indonesia here with some old Jakarta pics. Feel free to copy and paste it here. I dont have time to do it, DEADLINE TIME!!! arghhhh hehehe (but still have time to post here hehehe).

Ndiw
August 12th, 2004, 07:58 AM
sorry i didn't aware if there is another thread.. but i give up finding one .. ;)

sanhen
December 24th, 2004, 03:30 PM
come to think of it. this thread is different with the other one.
this is Old Jakarta Thread, the "Jakarta Koeta Toea"

As seen below:
- note the extensive train line, more extensive than now. many of them has been removed. burried. and... stolen.

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7840/batavia28jq.jpg

sanhen
December 24th, 2004, 03:31 PM
Kawasan Kota Tua Sulit Ditata
Laporan : Egidius Patnistik

Jakarta, KCM

Kawasan kota tua sulit ditata, karena kawasan itu masih menjadi daerah perlintasan kendaraan. Sekitar 70 persen kendaraan yang datang ke Kota Tua ternyata hanya sekadar melintas. Wagub DKI Fauzi Bowo mengatakan hal itu di Balaikota, Jumat (24/12).

Menurut Fauzi Bowo, kawasan Kota Tua yang meliputi sebagian wilayah Jakarta Barat dan Jakarta Utara harus ditata menjadi daerah tujuan bukan lagi daerah perlintasan. "Kita akan review tata ruang pada tahun 2005. Kawasan itu akan dijadikan destinasi atau daerah tujuan. Angkutan dan truk barang nanti diatur (tidak masuk ke kawasan itu)," ujar Fauzi.

Dalam rangka penataan itu, lanjut Fauzi, Stasiun Kota akan dijadikan stasiun regional yang hanya melayani daerah Jakarta dan sekitarnya dan tidak lagi menjadi stasiun antar-kota.

Sementara untuk membuka kawasan tersebut lebih menarik yang dikembangkan tidak hanya potensi historis, tetapi juga potensi komersial. "Daerah sekitar Kota Tua harus ikut ditata. Kawasan itu punya potensi untuk dikembangkan hingga menjadi potensi baru yang punya nilai komersial tinggi," ungkap Fauzi.

Perkumpulan Jakarta Oldtown Kotaku, pimpinan Miranda S Goeltom pada 12 Desember lalu mencanangkan revitalisasi Kota Tua. Kegiatan tersebut melibatkan sejumlah arsitek, pemilik bangunan, dan pecinta Kota Tua. (Ima)

sanhen
December 24th, 2004, 03:32 PM
Bekas Gedung BI Dijadikan Museum
Laporan : Egidius Patnistik

Jakarta, KCM

Bank Indonesia (BI) akan menjadikan bekas Gedung Kantor Pusat BI di Beos, Kota, Jakarta Barat sebagai museum. Museum tersebut akan memajang berbagai koleksi produk perbankan, informasi tentang bank sentral seperti tentang masalah moneter serta dilengkapi restoran, kafe dan ruangan resepsi.

Ketua Perkumpulan Jakarta Oldtown Kotaku, yang juga Deputi Senior Gubernur BI, Miranda S Goeltom, mengatakan hal itu di eks Gedung BI di Kota, Kamis (9/12). "Museum itu nanti akan berisi informasi tentang Bank Sentral. Koleksi produk-prosuk perbankan, resto dan kafe serta tempat resepsi, seperti untuk pernikahan, tapi dengan nuansa zaman dulu," kata Miranda.

Rencana menjadikan eks Kantor Pusat BI itu sebagai museum, menurut Miranda, merupakan bagian dari rencana besar untuk merevitalisasi kawasan Kota Tua, Jakarta yang selama ini terbengkalai dan tidak terurus.

Di tempat yang sama, Ketua Unit Khusus Museum BI, M Ashadhi, mengatakan museum BI itu dijadwalkan sudah bisa dibuka untuk umum pertengahan 2007. Mulai tahun depan, pihak BI sudah nulai mempersiapkan dalam rangka pembukaan museum tersebut.

Eks gedung BI tersebut memiliki luas 14.000 meter persegi dan didirikan pada tahun 1828. Di gedung dua lantai ini semula merupakan rumah sakit, lalu dialihkan menjadi sebuah bank. Pada tahun 1949 setelah Indonesia merdeka, bank tersebut dinasionalisasi dan pada tahun 1953 menjadi Kantor Pusat BI sampai tahun 1962. Namun, sejak 10 tahun lalu gedung tersebut tidak dipakai lagi alias kosong. (Ima)

sanhen
December 24th, 2004, 03:39 PM
I copy paste the old jakarta map above on top of current map of jakarta.. and looks what i have found:

http://img147.exs.cx/img147/1096/jakarta3ur.jpg

a big different in size, eh?

lamafrookie
January 10th, 2005, 02:44 AM
i gotta say i kinda like the original plan of batavia laid out by the dutch. grid system to some extent, lots of straight lines, along with those canals. i guess the city spread too fast before any further plan ever made beyond the original city proper.

baqthier
January 16th, 2005, 11:06 AM
It would be great to see some old pics of Jakarta :cheers:

indistad
January 19th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Well, Lama, even the Dutch finally admitted that it was a mistake. In the 18th century Batavia was known as the graveyard of the east. That was because the Dutch had made a cold Netherlandic town in the middle of the tropic. The houses and streets were narrow. And putrid waste was beginning to bred disease in the canals. As a result of siltation, many of the canals started to stop working. The water was clogged and disease was rife.

In the beginning of the nineteenth century, the old Batavia was abandoned by white Dutchmen. Leaving it for Chinese and offices. Initially the city expanded along the Molenvliet canal. They had huge mansions, with hundreds of slaves to care for the inhabitants. Only one mansion survived (and not a very grand specimen either, the Arsip Nasional building at jl. Gadjah Mada which was once the house of Governor General de Klerck) The new city was located around Gambir in what was then known as Weltevreden. It was moved there by the Napoleonic Daendels. Interestingly, the new southern part of Batavia had a town planning that was similar to Javanese cities!!

It had a large alun-alun (medan merdeka now) and radial, ribbon development. It was wide and airy. It had lots of trees and houses are often hidden inside a lush, tropical garden environment. So building them like European cities was something that was impossible. In any case, the garden like environment of 19th century Batavia was something of pride to its inhabitants. It was a comfortable place to live in.

tata
March 13th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Anyone saw this film?


Old film about Jakarta played in National Museum

Liputan6.com, Jakarta: Kapal itu mendekati dermaga. Kedatangan kapal VOC di Pelabuhan Tanjungpriok ini memang telah dinantikan. Tampak puluhan warga menunggu di tepi dermaga. Sejumlah pria berjas putih dan bertopi. Sedangkan para wanita rata-rata mengenakan gaun dalam dan bertopi pandan lebar, khas busana Eropa tempo dulu.

Selanjutnya bisa ditebak. Kesibukan pelabuhan yang menaikkan dan menurunkan barang-barang. Gambaran ini menjadi secuplik dari film tentang Jakarta tempo dulu yang diputar di Museum Nasional, Jakarta Pusat, baru-baru ini.

Selanjutnya gambar berganti dengan suasana perempatan daerah Harmoni. Sejumlah orang lalu lalang. Ada juga trem yang melintas di kawasan yang saat ini dikenal sebagai Jalan Medan Merdeka Barat, Jakpus.

Sejarah memang bisa disampaikan pada generasi lanjutan lewat bermacam cara, seperti lewat film di atas. Sebuah kisah Batavia (Jakarta) tempo dulu dalam film atau gambar bergerak. Satu tontonan langka. Film hitam putih berdurasi 20 menit ini memang berharga sekali. Warga yang menonton di Museum Nasional beruntung bisa menikmati penggalan sejarah Kota Betawi ini. Tak hanya sekadar menonton, mereka bisa belajar perjalanan Ibu Kota, dengan rileks tentunya. Generasi sekarang juga bisa menyaksikan Jakarta pernah menjadi pusat pemerintahan VOC, Belanda.(MAK/Zainuddin dan Theopilus Sandy)

lamafrookie
March 15th, 2005, 08:47 AM
hey indistad, thx for the info man, that's pretty interesting!

Nemo
April 2nd, 2005, 06:57 PM
JAKARTA/BATAVIA I

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/waterloopleinbatavia1842.jpg
Waterlooplein, Batavia >> Waterloo-Square, with Dutch Governor-General H. W. Daendels' Palace on the background.

http://www.geocities.com/nedindie/BataviametKasteel2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nedindie/Batavia1627.jpg
Batavia 1627

http://www.capurromrc.it/mappe/!25batavia.jpg

http://voc-kenniscentrum.nl/images/vest-batavia.jpg

http://voc-kenniscentrum.nl/images/batavia.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nedindie/Harmonie.jpg
Batavia; Societeit 'De Harmonie, destroyed in the '80s to widen a boulevard!!?? One of the most well known buildings in Batavia/Jakarta.

http://www.iae.nl/users/arcengel/NedIndie/daendelspaleis1878.jpg
Daendels Palace.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Hans/indesingang1863.jpg
Batavia 1863

http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Hans/indesfront1863.jpg

http://www.warintekjogja.com/pustal/kotalama/kota/56.jpg
1876

http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Hans/indeskantoor1910.jpg
1910

http://www.warintekjogja.com/pustal/kotalama/kota/22.jpg
1912

http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Hans/desindes1957.jpg
Hotel de Indes 1937

http://www.warintekjogja.com/pustal/kotalama/kota/21.jpg
1937

http://www.warintekjogja.com/pustal/kotalama/kota/15.jpg
1937

http://www.warintekjogja.com/pustal/kotalama/kota/19.jpg
1939

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ricetable.jpg
Ricetable.

Alvin
April 3rd, 2005, 04:36 AM
fascinating pics, thankyou!

Nemo
April 4th, 2005, 04:56 PM
JAKARTA/BATAVIA II

http://images.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/tasimg/may1999/normal/AUTAS001125644724.jpg
Batavia/Jakarta map.

http://www.usc.edu/schools/sppd/research/cippad/projects/slide_show/jakarta_12.jpg

http://p.vtourist.com/400717-Fatahillah_Museum_by_rie-Jakarta.jpg
The Batavia Town Hall, now Jakarta Historic Museum.

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/jakarta%20history%20museum,%20kota.jpg

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/jakarta%20history%20museum%2C%20kota_2.jpg



http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/kota%20station.jpg
Batavia Train Station; now Kota

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/maritime%20museum%20courtyard%2C%20sunda%20kelapa.jpg

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/jakarta%20catholic%20cathedral.jpg
Kathedraal Batavia, Jacarta Cathedral.

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/gervaja%20sion%20church%20near%20kota.jpg

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/dutch%20colonial%20houses%20in%20kota.jpg
Dutch colonial architecture

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/dutch%20colonial%20house%20in%20kota_2.jpg

http://www.titusaroundtheworld.com/images/foto/18_auckland_jakarta_bali_flores/100_0042.jpg

http://www.titusaroundtheworld.com/images/foto/18_auckland_jakarta_bali_flores/100_0046.jpg
'Volksraad' building

http://www.titusaroundtheworld.com/images/foto/18_auckland_jakarta_bali_flores/100_0048.jpg

http://www.titusaroundtheworld.com/images/foto/18_auckland_jakarta_bali_flores/100_0056.jpg
Hoenderpasarbrug

http://www.titusaroundtheworld.com/images/foto/18_auckland_jakarta_bali_flores/100_0069.jpg

http://www.titusaroundtheworld.com/images/foto/18_auckland_jakarta_bali_flores/100_0050.jpg


http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/asia/Indonesia/oldjakarta/images/dutch%20colonial%20house%20in%20kota.jpg

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/indonesian.elections/jakarta.profile/national.museum.jpg

http://www.trisanna.com/indonesia/courtyard%20of%20the%20national%20museum.jpg
Museum voor het Bataviasch Genootschap voor Kunsten, now National Museum.

http://preetamrai.com/travels/008jakarta/jakarta_clip_image007.jpg

http://home.planet.nl/~raythu/homepic/indo/Ind-svw-Jakarta10.jpg
Portuguese 'fertility cannon'; Dutch prize taken to Batavia, after they conquered Malakka from the Portuguese.

JAG2
April 4th, 2005, 08:09 PM
He Nemo fantastische foto's .Top.

sanhen
April 5th, 2005, 03:01 AM
Thanks for the photos!!!

Kalix
June 5th, 2005, 04:18 AM
FASCINATING SET OF PIX!!!!

Nemo
June 5th, 2005, 08:45 PM
JAKARTA/BATAVIA III

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.stadhuis.batavia.jpg
Batavia: Town Hall (built 1710) 1910.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.grondleggers.gezag.noord.sumatra.jpg
Batavia: Monument to the rememberance of the establishment of Dutch rule in Northern-Sumatra (Aceh??).

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.museum.kunsten.wetenschappen.jpg
Museum van het Bataviaasch Genootschap voor de Kunsten. 1910.


http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.paleis.daendels.jpg
Batavia: 'Daendels' Palace, built as residence for the Dutch Governor-generals, but served as Ministry, as it is still its function today in Indonesia.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.concordia.fontein.jpg
Batavia, Societeit Concordia, Concordia Officers Club.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.park.koningsplein.jpg
Batavia; Koningsplein, Kings' Square.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.koningsplein.jpg
Batavia: Koningsplein, side of Kings' Square.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.winkelstraat.tramspoor.jpg
Batavia street scene 1910, with tram line.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.willemskerk.koningspeiin.jpg
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviawillemskerk1888.jpg
Batavia: Willemskerk, now Gereja Immanuel.
http://members.westnet.com.au/duncangroup/Pipeorgan/Indonesia/Photos/Immanuel03800.jpg

http://www.sven.com/sven/holi96/svenjkt/2512.jpg
Jakarta Cathedral.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviagatetownhall.jpg
Batavia: The Amsterdam Gate; (demolished)

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/1672batavia.jpg
Batavia/Iacatra/Jakarta map, 1672.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviaschouwburg.jpg
http://www.tompgalvin.com/places/id/photos/jakarta_gt_02.jpg
Batavia: City Theatre, the and now

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviastadsherberg.jpg
Batavia: city tavern.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviaoldoldpalace.jpg
Batavia, a Palace of the Dutch Governor General.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/buitenzorgpaleisnuentoen.jpg
Buitenzorg/Bogor, Palace of the Dutch Governor General, now Presidential Palace.

Just a few of the many Governors-Generals over the more than 350 year Dutch rule in the East Indies.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggriebeeck.jpg
GG Van Riebeeck
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggswoll.jpg
GG Woll
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggreael.jpg
GG Grael
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gghaan.jpg
GG Haan
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gghoorn.jpg
GG Hoorn
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggeerens.jpg
GG Geerens
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggfock.jpg
GG Fock
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggrees.jpg
GG Van Rees
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggpahud.jpg
GG Ahud
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggjanssens.jpg
GG Janssens
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggmijer.jpg
GG Mijer
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggjonge.jpg
GG Jonge
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gglandsberge.jpg
GG Landsberge
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggidenburg.jpg
GG Idenburg
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gglimburg.jpg
GG J. P. Van Limburg-Stirum
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggtjarda.jpg
GG Jhr. Tjarda van Starkenborch-Stachouwer, the last Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/koningsplein.jpg
Batavia: Koningsplein, in the Middle a Palace of the Governor-General (City Residence besides Buitenzorg/Bogor Palace) >> Now a presidential Palace; Istana Merdeka Jakarta.
http://www.tompgalvin.com/places/id/photos/jakarta_gt_06.jpg

http://library.thinkquest.org/26300/media/jakarta_palace.jpg

http://www.peschfamily.com/content/news/articlefiles/38-history%20008.jpg
Batavia, Tijgersgracht, (Tigers-Canal).

http://members.chello.nl/hpiek/deklerk.jpg
Estate of Reinier de Klerk >> Arsip Nasional.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviacoen.gif
Batavia/Jakarta; very old map.

tata
June 5th, 2005, 11:00 PM
@Nemo: beautiful pictures. Thanks for sharing!

rhz
June 6th, 2005, 10:06 AM
I wish they refurbished some of these buildings like what the Singaporean govt did in Singapore.

Nemo
July 17th, 2005, 03:06 PM
OK, I hope I am not tyring you with more colonial pictures, but I found these and I think they're worth to show. After all we share more than 300 years common history.
:)

Batavia, Nederlands Indie.

See;www.geheugenvannederland.nl

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=NFA02%3ANFA02_cas-10301-2%3ANFA02_cas-10301-2_U
Paleis Weltevreden (Istana Merdeka)

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=NFA02%3ANFA02_cas-10300-1%3ANFA02_cas-10300-1_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=NFA02%3ANFA02_cas-10304-3%3ANFA02_cas-10304-3_U
Paleis Rijswijk

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_11705%3AKITLV01_11705_U
Paleis Buitenzorg (Bogor)

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_2704%3AKITLV01_2704_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_2705%3AKITLV01_2705_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_11704%3AKITLV01_11704_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_11696%3AKITLV01_11696_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_29051%3AKITLV01_29051_U
1880

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=PKL01%3APKL01_MM-531-014%3APKL01_MM-531-014_U
Paleis Koningsplein

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_11700%3AKITLV01_11700_U
Michielsmonument, Batavia 1890

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=PKL01%3APKL01_PKL-0220%3APKL01_PKL-0220_U
Willemskerk te Weltevreden.

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_3423%3AKITLV01_3423_U
Schouwburg Batavia, 1880

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_2725%3AKITLV01_2725_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_29061%3AKITLV01_29061_U
Artesische put, koningsplein.

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_37073%3AKITLV01_37073_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_2843%3AKITLV01_2843_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_37074%3AKITLV01_37074_U
Museum van het Javasche Genootschap voor Kunsten, 1900

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_2737%3AKITLV01_2737_U
Batvia, stadhuis.

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_7502%3AKITLV01_7502_U
Chinese wijk.

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_11697%3AKITLV01_11697_U
Militaire sociëteit Concordia te Batavia, 1890

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=PKL01%3APKL01_PKL-0212%3APKL01_PKL-0212_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=NFA02%3ANFA02_cas-10017-6%3ANFA02_cas-10017-6_U
De kathedraal

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=PKL01%3APKL01_MM-1741%3APKL01_MM-1741_U
Amsterdamse Poort, 1900

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_26611%3AKITLV01_26611_U
Pand van de Duitse firma C. Bahre & G. Kinder aan de Kali Besar te Batavia met daarin het consulaat van de stad Bremen, 1865

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_26612%3AKITLV01_26612_U
Kantoor van de Borneo Company aan de Kali Besar te Batavia, 1872

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_2686%3AKITLV01_2686_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_26961%3AKITLV01_26961_U
Kali Besar te Batavia, firma Maclaine, Watson & Co, 1870

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_3241%3AKITLV01_3241_U


http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_3431%3AKITLV01_3431_U
Batavia Zoo, 1880.

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=PKL01%3APKL01_MM-1765%3APKL01_MM-1765_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=PKL01%3APKL01_PKL-0225%3APKL01_PKL-0225_U

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_3102%3AKITLV01_3102_U
Sumatra.
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Blue_Sky
July 17th, 2005, 03:31 PM
Great!!!

I Like the pics...
Batavia seem like a beautiful city to live...

sanhen
July 17th, 2005, 03:35 PM
Wow
Great pics!!
Where did you get them?

Nemo
July 17th, 2005, 03:43 PM
@SANSHEN

The address is; www.geheugenvannederland.nl for the English version. click the EN-button upright.

The site shows pieces/images of Dutch history. Its a co-operation between the National archives, the Royal Library and (ex)-colonial institutes like the KITLV in Leiden. (KITLV = Royal Netherlands Institute of Southeast Asian and Caribbean Studies)

See KITLV site; its English too!! >> http://www.kitlv.nl/ (great site) :)

sanhen
July 17th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Thanks Nemo,
will surely check those website :)

ncon
July 17th, 2005, 04:18 PM
wow hardly beleive it is Jakarta last time

Fir3blaze
July 17th, 2005, 08:23 PM
Beautiful pics! Thanks for the pictures Nemo! :)

XxRyoChanxX
July 17th, 2005, 10:00 PM
thanks for the pictures NEMO~...can't believe we were colonized by the dutch for 300 years...i've always wanted to learn how to speak dutch from my grandma's

TheTramp
July 18th, 2005, 05:02 AM
those are truly great pictures. too bad indonesia isn't quite the example for optimization of old historic buildings. i went to school in menteng jakarta, which is close to many such great old buildings and i used to wonder if they could've lived up to their ultimate potential for jakarta residents or the city in general...

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:00 AM
I have some Jakarta old pic also...
I'll post it here soon

:):)

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:08 AM
Senen Market 1955
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Tempodoeloe/Senen-2.jpg

Senen 1973
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Tempodoeloe/Senen_1973_Sp.jpg

Manggarai unknown year
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Tempodoeloe/manggarai.jpg

Glodok 1947
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Tempodoeloe/glodok.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:11 AM
Hayam Wuruk 1955
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1955hayamwuruk.jpg

Gajah Mada Area 1950
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1950hayamwuruk.jpg

Diponegoro Street 1949
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1949jalandiponegoro.jpg

Kramat Raya 1955
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1955kramatraya.jpg

Passer Baroe 1949
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1949pasarbaru.jpg

Thamrin 1950

http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1950merdekabarat-thamrin.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Jalan Balikpapan(Menteng Raya) 1955
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1955mentengraya.jpg

Djatinegara 1955
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1955djatinegara.jpg

Pasar Ikan 1946
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1946pasarikan.jpg

Jalan Petak 1949
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1949jalanpetak.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:15 AM
Ooouuupppssss...!!!!
one pic is left behind hehehe

Antjol 1948
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1948antjol.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:21 AM
===========================edited============================

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:37 AM
Who still remember the hostory behind this old house???

Pegangsaan Timur 56, 1950
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1950pegangsaantimur56.jpg

Pegangsaan Timur 56, 1960
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1960pegangsaantimur56.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:39 AM
Thamrin 1965
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1965thamrin.jpg

Thamrin 1962
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1962thamrin.jpg

Tanah Abang 1955
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1955tanahabang.jpg

Pasar Baroe 1955
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1955pasarbaru.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:41 AM
Harmony 1954
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1954harmoni.jpg

Pintu Air 1950
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1950pintuair.jpg

Merdeka Barat 1950
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1950merdekabarat-thamrin.jpg

Hayam Wuruk 1950
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1950hayamwuruk.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:43 AM
Gedung Pertemuan Umum 1950
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1950gdpertemuanumum.jpg

Taman Suropati 1949
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1949tamansuropati.jpg

Hayam Wuruk 1948
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1948hayamwuruk.jpg

Kali Besar 1946
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/jakarta%20tempo%20doeloe/1946kalibesar.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 10:49 AM
SOURCE:
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/

Your parents gonna love my posted pics here
:cheers: :cheers:

hopespire
August 5th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Impressive Pictures!!

Could someone tell me where does the Thamrin 1950 picture located?? i.e., where at Thamrin is that?

Blue_Sky
August 5th, 2005, 07:30 PM
Sorry it totally unrecognizeable anymore for me
hehehe...

anyway this is Thamrin area right now
maybe some area in this pics can identify Thamrin 55 years ago
:):)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/Jakarta/thamrin.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/Jakarta/sarinah3.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/Jakarta/sarinah1.jpg

tata
August 5th, 2005, 11:03 PM
Impressive Pictures!!

Could someone tell me where does the Thamrin 1950 picture located?? i.e., where at Thamrin is that?

that could be where roundabout in front of INDOSAT building is right now (=Arjuna Statue). It's just my guess though.

tata

Blue_Sky
August 6th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Tanjung Priok 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/c46805bf.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/df0372f8.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/cda01e1a.jpg

spidey
August 7th, 2005, 12:20 PM
SOURCE:
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/

Your parents gonna love my posted pics here
:cheers: :cheers:

thanks for this info and posting these pics

Blue_Sky
August 7th, 2005, 12:32 PM
No problem mate...
I'll post some more later, just stick in here

:):)

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 06:37 AM
Life in Jakarta in 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/14c85adb.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/d09005aa.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:36 PM
More old Jakarta pics with unknown location
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/13a7839a.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/110eb6ec.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/a8e09602.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/5b91e701.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:37 PM
Again...
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/c4000a54.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/6ee8dcd1.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/164fe145.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/76a5e54d.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:38 PM
More...
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/a5be9fe9.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/062df1e0.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/861c0c35.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/6604a08a.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:39 PM
oouuppss...
left behind
:D:D

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/f3bef897.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:40 PM
Jakarta old map
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/16fdca21.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Man...

I Need a little break here
:cheers: :cheers:

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Harmony, 1875
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/8c91c3b9.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:43 PM
this page is too heavy already...
Need a new page then

:D:D

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:45 PM
this page is too heavy already...
Need a new page then
hehe

:D:D

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:46 PM
still too heavy already...
Need a new page then

:D:D

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:47 PM
Heavy page here
lets move to a new one

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:48 PM
Damn heavy pics...
:bash: :bash:

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:49 PM
last junk
hehehe

:D:D

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:50 PM
Under Japanese colony, 1942
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/eeadbb62.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/7e03bd4d.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/c114def3.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Gerbang Lama Town Hall
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/7281d032.jpg

before 1870
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/752da58a.jpg

after 1870
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/de959621.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:55 PM
Portuguese Church, 1695
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/ce8c0ffe.jpg

Townhall kota, 1990
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/128993a4.jpg

Tanjung Priok, 1935
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/e1d6ef53.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:56 PM
Gedung Film
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/0b9424eb.jpg

Unknown place
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/fbdf16ad.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 8th, 2005, 08:57 PM
I think im gonna faint tonight

:goodnight

tata
August 8th, 2005, 11:09 PM
blue, where did you get all those pictures? Very nice....

Blue_Sky
August 9th, 2005, 10:36 AM
let just say i borrow doraemon's time machine to go to the old Indonesia
hehehe...
:D:D

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:37 AM
Pasar Gambir, Batavia, 1939
http://www.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~fujimori/ai/pasargambir.gif

*tanah abang 1955*
http://www.pertiwi.co.id/batavia/foto/1955tanahabang.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:39 AM
Lapangan Banteng (dh Waterlooplein) 1938
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809Waterlooplein1938.jpg

Lapangan Banteng (dh Waterlooplein) when queen wilhelmina anniversary
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809WAterlooplein410830.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:41 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809HertogPark1912.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809HuisVanDeVolksraad1936.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809Citadel1932.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809Aerial1945.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809MichielsMemorial.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809MichielsMemorial2.jpg




http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809MichielsTomb.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:43 AM
Indonesian people must stand down to honor Japanese emperor
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809History/050809TjidengIntern.jpg

"Kiotskay!" = "Attention"
"Kiray!" = stand down giving honour to Japanese emperor
"Nowray!" = "Stand up"

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:47 AM
Jakarta 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/a86c46a1.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/517b8c47.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:48 AM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/fc0db1ed.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/65f3f064.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:48 AM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/35eb76a3.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/4564df97.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:49 AM
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Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:50 AM
============================edited==========================

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:51 AM
==========================edited=========================

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:52 AM
===========================edited==========================

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:53 AM
===========================sorry=============================

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:53 AM
More pics coming soon

:):)

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:54 AM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/b572b14d.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/dc4278e1.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 08:55 AM
=========================edited============================

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 01:30 PM
======================edited===============================

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 01:31 PM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/35c5a1ea.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/4fabb28f.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 01:32 PM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/03970efc.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/65db849b.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 01:33 PM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/76bb6a05.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/74c09180.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 01:34 PM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/e48c113f.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 01:38 PM
Jakarta, 1929
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/3f92a586.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/0446dcd1.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 23rd, 2005, 01:39 PM
Jakarta, 1929

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/5c1f614d.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/690e45c9.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Hotel Des Indes (1828 - 1971)

Banyak orang menganggap Hotel des Indes sejajar dengan Hotel Raffles di Singapura. Hanya bedanya, Hotel Raffles tetap lestari hingga sekarang dan menjadi pilihan utama tamu-tamu eksklusifnya.

Seperti halnya Gedung Harmonie, peranan Hotel des Indes dalam sejarah kolonial amat besar. Perundingan Indonesia-Belanda pernah beberapa kali diadakan di sini.

Bagian hotel yang dianggap tertua adalah dependance atau paviliun sebelah selatan yang biasanya dipakai untuk resepsi atau pameran. Sebelum menjadi paviliun, bangunan itu merupakan rumah peristirahatan Moenswijk. Berasal dari nama pemilik pertama gedung itu, Adriaan Moens, pejabat VOC yang kaya raya.

Sebagian besar tanah hotel merupakan milik Reinier de Klerk. Pada tahun 1774 Klerk menjual tanah dan rumah di atasnya kepada C Postmans. Pada tahun 1778 beralih lagi kepada pemilik baru, keluarga GJ van der Parra. Setelah beberapa kali berganti pemilik, pada tahun 1824 rumah itu dibeli oleh pemerintah dari DJ Papet.

Selanjutnya pada tahun 1828 rumah itu dibeli oleh dua pengusaha perhotelan Prancis, A Chaulan dan JJ Didero. Awalnya, bekas rumah tadi dijadikan Hotel Chaulan, kemudian Hotel de Provence (1835). Manajemen baru di bawah pimpinan C Denninghoff menggantinya menjadi Hotel Rotterdamsch (1854).

Hotel des Indes diresmikan pada 1 Mei 1856. Pada tahun 1888 hotel itu beralih ke pemilik baru, Jacob Lugt. Lugt mulai memperluas hotel secara besar-besaran dengan membeli tanah-tanah di sekitarnya. Namun, karena terlalu berani berspekulasi, Lugt kesulitan keuangan (1897).

Sejak itu Hotel des Indes dijadikan perseroan terbatas dan mulai dilakukan perluasan. Pada tahun 1930-an sampai 1950-an Hotel des Indes merupakan hotel mewah di Jakarta.

Peranannya semakin menurun ketika Pemerintah Indonesia mengambil alih hotel tersebut dan mengganti namanya menjadi Hotel Duta Indonesia. Ketika itu hotel berfungsi menampung pegawai negeri yang tidak memperoleh perumahan. Setelah itu namanya semakin tenggelam, terlebih ketika berdiri Hotel Indonesia di pusat kota Jakarta.

Dihitung-hitung Hotel des Indes bertahan selama 115 tahun.

=========================================================

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/desindes1957.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Depan Hotel 1863.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/indesfront1863.jpg

Belakang Hotel 1863.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/indesingang1863.jpg

Sejarah hotel ini dimulai tahun 1828, ketika dua kontraktor Prancis membeli persil tanah Moenswijk yang kala itu merupakan salah satu rumah peristirahatan 'jauh' di luar kota. Moenswijk berasal dari nama pemilik pertamanya, Adriaan Moens, seorang direktur jenderal VOC kaya raya. Dua pengusaha Prancis itu bernama Surleon Antoine Chaulan dan JJ Didero. Nama Chaulan kemudian diabadikan untuk nama Jl Kemakmuran yang berdekatan dengan hotel tersebut. Dan kini menjadi Jl Hasyim Ashari, itu pendiri NU kakeknya Gus Dur.

Hotel des Indes, mula-mula dikenal dengan Hotel Chaulan, kemudian Hotel de Provence (1835) untuk menghormati daerah pemiliknya. Kemudian Rotterdamsch Hotel (1854). Nama Hotel des Indes yang membawanya ke puncak ketenaran diresmikan 1 Mei 1856. Menurut Dr de Haan, penulis buku Oud Batavia nama baru itu merupakan kasak kusuk penulis Multatuli dengan pemilik hotel.

Pada abad ke-18 dan 19 banyak orang kaya terutama para pejabat Kompeni yang membangun rumah-rumah peristirahatan (landhuis) disepanjang Molenvliet. Termasuk rumah peristirahatan Reinier de Klerek (sekarang Gedung Arsip Nasional) yang letaknya tidak lebih tiga kilometer dari Glodok. Kala itu, untuk menempuh jarak tersebut dari pusat kota (Pasar Ikan) ditempuh selama tiga jam dengan kereta kuda.

Ketika penyerahan kedaulatan, Bung Karno mengganti nama Hotel des Indes jadi Hotel Duta Indonesian (HDI). Hotel ini pada masa akhir pendudukan Jepang, pernah menjadi tempat menginap para anggota Panitia Persiapan Kemerdekaan Indonesia (PPKI), yang dalam sidangnya pada 18 Agustus 1945 di Pejambon, menetapkan UUD 1945, memilih Bung Karno dan Bung Hatta sebagai presiden dan wakil presiden.

Di samping terkenal dengan makanannya terutama rijstafel dan berbagai masakan Eropa lainnya, hotel setiap malam menampilkan artis tahun 1950-an dan 60-an dalam berbagai acara hiburan. Pada tahun tersebut, beberapa diplomat asing yang menghadapi kesulitan perumahan di Jakarta, tinggal dan berkantor di Hotel des Indes.

Hotel ini letaknya berdekatan dengan gedung BTN dan Jl Jaga Monyet (kini Jl Suryopranoto). Dulu di sini terdapat benteng penjagaan. Konon, karena lebih sering menjaga monyet-monyet yang berkeliaran katimbang musuh, dinamakan Jaga Monyet. Maklum pada abad ke-18 daerah ini masih hutan belukar. Banyak yang menyayangkan kenapa nama Jaga Monyet diganti. Sampai kini mereka yang berusia lanjut lebih masih mengenal Jaga Monyet katimbang Jl Suryopranoto.

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:10 PM
1870
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/indesfront1870.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Suasana kantor Hotel Indes, 1910.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/indeskantoor1910.jpg

1925.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/indesfront1925.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:14 PM
Katanya pernah dipakai dalam rangkaian rapat Roem-Royen pada 14 April 1949
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/desindesroem19490414.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:15 PM
1957.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/desindes1957.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:16 PM
Visit by John Wayne

John Wayne with inlander kids
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/19580213desindeswayne.jpg

John Wayne signature
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/hdi7.gif

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:19 PM
New Year party in Hotel Des Indes
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/desindesnieuwjaar.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:20 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/desindesklein.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Hotel Des Indes
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/c34ddd8f.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/40b59b73.jpg

Blue_Sky
August 27th, 2005, 07:25 PM
Out of topic
but this logo used to be in Jakarta but now only in Den Haag
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050826DesIndes/bataviawapen.jpg

ncon
August 28th, 2005, 03:56 AM
to bad Hotel Indes is demolished they should preserve and make it RAFFLES HOTEL Indoneisa :D Jakarta people doesn't know how to make old building to be preserve and make it tourism potential (like in Singapore) instead they destroy old chinese building (ruko) and build Ruko which has no value of Architecthure so pity

till today.........

ncon
August 31st, 2005, 11:55 AM
lets post old Dutch Building in this post !! not Just in KOTA but everywhere!!

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7719/kotatmp4ne.jpg

ncon
August 31st, 2005, 12:22 PM
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4632/dasfsasfatmp4fe.jpg

cOcO_cHaneL
August 31st, 2005, 04:06 PM
r u serious?!?!?? they both look really cool!! mmHhhh.. bdw how come the tree in the first pic looks like sakura tree?? looks like autumn in the picture ehehehhe

Bingz
September 1st, 2005, 05:00 AM
I found this on the internet on Indonesian Forum (AsiaFinest.com (http://www.asiafinest.com))

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/3130/jakarta32af.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5425/jakarta49no.jpg

from this website..
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39005&st=90 It's pretty cool forum too.. ur welcome to check it out

cOcO_cHaneL
September 1st, 2005, 10:25 AM
JAKARTA/BATAVIA III

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.stadhuis.batavia.jpg
Batavia: Town Hall (built 1710) 1910.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.grondleggers.gezag.noord.sumatra.jpg
Batavia: Monument to the rememberance of the establishment of Dutch rule in Northern-Sumatra (Aceh??).

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.museum.kunsten.wetenschappen.jpg
Museum van het Bataviaasch Genootschap voor de Kunsten. 1910.


http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.paleis.daendels.jpg
Batavia: 'Daendels' Palace, built as residence for the Dutch Governor-generals, but served as Ministry, as it is still its function today in Indonesia.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.concordia.fontein.jpg
Batavia, Societeit Concordia, Concordia Officers Club.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.park.koningsplein.jpg
Batavia; Koningsplein, Kings' Square.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.koningsplein.jpg
Batavia: Koningsplein, side of Kings' Square.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.winkelstraat.tramspoor.jpg
Batavia street scene 1910, with tram line.

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/batavia.willemskerk.koningspeiin.jpg
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviawillemskerk1888.jpg
Batavia: Willemskerk, now Gereja Immanuel.
http://members.westnet.com.au/duncangroup/Pipeorgan/Indonesia/Photos/Immanuel03800.jpg

http://www.sven.com/sven/holi96/svenjkt/2512.jpg
Jakarta Cathedral.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviagatetownhall.jpg
Batavia: The Amsterdam Gate; (demolished)

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/1672batavia.jpg
Batavia/Iacatra/Jakarta map, 1672.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviaschouwburg.jpg
http://www.tompgalvin.com/places/id/photos/jakarta_gt_02.jpg
Batavia: City Theatre, the and now

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviastadsherberg.jpg
Batavia: city tavern.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviaoldoldpalace.jpg
Batavia, a Palace of the Dutch Governor General.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/buitenzorgpaleisnuentoen.jpg
Buitenzorg/Bogor, Palace of the Dutch Governor General, now Presidential Palace.

Just a few of the many Governors-Generals over the more than 350 year Dutch rule in the East Indies.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggriebeeck.jpg
GG Van Riebeeck
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggswoll.jpg
GG Woll
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggreael.jpg
GG Grael
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gghaan.jpg
GG Haan
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gghoorn.jpg
GG Hoorn
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggeerens.jpg
GG Geerens
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggfock.jpg
GG Fock
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggrees.jpg
GG Van Rees
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggpahud.jpg
GG Ahud
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggjanssens.jpg
GG Janssens
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggmijer.jpg
GG Mijer
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggjonge.jpg
GG Jonge
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gglandsberge.jpg
GG Landsberge
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggidenburg.jpg
GG Idenburg
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/gglimburg.jpg
GG J. P. Van Limburg-Stirum
http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/ggtjarda.jpg
GG Jhr. Tjarda van Starkenborch-Stachouwer, the last Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/koningsplein.jpg
Batavia: Koningsplein, in the Middle a Palace of the Governor-General (City Residence besides Buitenzorg/Bogor Palace) >> Now a presidential Palace; Istana Merdeka Jakarta.
http://www.tompgalvin.com/places/id/photos/jakarta_gt_06.jpg

http://library.thinkquest.org/26300/media/jakarta_palace.jpg

http://www.peschfamily.com/content/news/articlefiles/38-history%20008.jpg
Batavia, Tijgersgracht, (Tigers-Canal).

http://members.chello.nl/hpiek/deklerk.jpg
Estate of Reinier de Klerk >> Arsip Nasional.

http://www.engelfriet.net/Aad/NedIndie/bataviacoen.gif
Batavia/Jakarta; very old map.

the dutch gate was really nice wish they didnt demolish it,, it adds to the monuments for tourists to have a look through,, mmhh.. do most of those buildings still exists? or are they renovated to new buildings??

sanhen
September 1st, 2005, 11:44 AM
i think that dutch gate wasnt demolished, but destroyed during japanese bombing. correct me if i am wrong.

Blue_Sky
September 1st, 2005, 12:58 PM
i think that dutch gate wasnt demolished, but destroyed during japanese bombing. correct me if i am wrong.
I Will try to correct your answer
:):)

Gedung itu namanya Amsterdam Gate yang merupakan bagian dari Benteng terbesar VOC di Batavia yang mulai dibangun pada 1619.
Tahun 1770 - 1810, Benteng tersebut mulai dihancurkan dan hanya menyisakan Gerbang ini saja.
Uniknya, materi dari benteng ini kabarnya tidak dibuang, melainkan digunakan untuk membangun pusat perkotaan baru di Waterlooplein (Lap. Banteng) dan Koningsplein (Komplek Istana Merdeka).

Pada 1743-1750, sebagian benteng ini dibangun kembali atas perintah Gubernur saat itu.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809AmsGate/17431750.jpg
(lukisan 1776)

Tahun 1830, sebagian dari Amsterdam Gate dihancurkan kembali, dan sekali lagi Amsterdam Gate mengalami perubahan dengan ditambahkannya patung Mars dan Minerva, ditambah 8 ornamen di atasnya.
Sejak 1869, dimulai pengoperasian Kereta Kuda yg melewati gerbang ini, karena gerbangnya yang terlalu kecil, maka kereta kuda tersebut tak dapat melalui tengah gerbang, tapi harus melingkari gerbang, karenanya sisi-sisi gerbang harus dihancurkan.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809AmsGate/1830.jpg
1881, sesudah sisi gerbang dihancurkan.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809AmsGate/Stadhuis.jpg
Di kejauhan tampak gedung balai kota (stad huis / Musium Fatahillah).

Ada barak di belakang gerbang tersebut untuk ditempati tentara yg dimaksudkan untuk menjaga Batavia, tentara ini disebut Papangers.
Papangers karena mereka adalah keturunan orang Papango, penduduk pulau Luzon di Philipina. Mereka bersenjatakan tombak dan klewang saja. Kesatuan ini dibubarkan pada 1907.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809AmsGate/Papangers.jpg
Papangers.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809AmsGate/1900.jpg
1900

Pada 1923 layanan kereta kolonial memiliki layanan kereta bertenaga listrik, karenanya jaringannya diperluas sampai sekitar Amsterdam Gate dengan membangun rel di atas viaduct (model rel di atas paling tua di Jakarta).

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809AmsGate/1934.jpg
1934, dengan latar belakang Rel di atas viaduct.

Pada saat invasi Jepang di 1942, patung Minerva, Mars dan 8 ornamen di atas gerbang dicopot dan dibawa oleh tentara Jepang sebagai trophy, tidak jelas ke mana.

Gerbangnya sendiri dihancurkan pada 1950, saat pemerintahan Indonesia.
^^ Ciri2 bangsa yg tidak menghargai sejarah :(:(

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/sicklifehood/050323oth/050809AmsGate/195012.jpg

cOcO_cHaneL
September 2nd, 2005, 11:06 AM
wahhh.. i really hope.. they make a new one that looks similar to those ones.. even htough it's not original, but it brings back old memories for old people.. and the important thing is the HISTORICAL value,,

MARINHO
September 2nd, 2005, 10:25 PM
Visit www.rendez-vous-batavia.nl for pictures and book's about Batavia.

macgyver
September 3rd, 2005, 08:08 AM
I LOVE THIS GAME !!! ....oooppsss ... sorry
I LOVE THIS THREAD !!! :cheers: :cheers:

cOcO_cHaneL
September 3rd, 2005, 12:08 PM
keep 'em comin!!

ncon
September 3rd, 2005, 02:26 PM
I LOVE THIS GAME !!! ....oooppsss ... sorry
I LOVE THIS THREAD !!! :cheers: :cheers:

from this post can see u're game addict :D

ncon
September 8th, 2005, 04:34 AM
Post some Historical Building that has been demolished in Jakarta/Indonesia

Nemo
September 8th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Societeit de Harmonie, Batavia.

http://members.chello.nl/hpiek/harmonie.jpg

Demolished 1985 (!!) While this was once one of the most well-known buildings in Batavia/Jakarta. Demolished because of widening of a road.

http://www.geocities.com/nedindie/Harmonie.jpg

http://racer.kb.nl/gvn-mod/resolver.pl?urn=KITLV01%3AKITLV01_37073%3AKITLV01_37073_U

Nemo
September 8th, 2005, 10:55 PM
EDIT

ncon
September 9th, 2005, 04:27 AM
thanks Nemo but if u notice the threads it is only for old Building find in Jakarta/Batavia

maybe u can erase the one from other cities??

Thanks

h4nh4n
September 9th, 2005, 08:47 AM
thanks Nemo but if u notice the threads it is only for old Building find in Jakarta/Batavia

maybe u can erase the one from other cities??

Thanks

[QUOTE=encon]lets post old Dutch Building in this post !! not Just in KOTA but everywhere!!

Why different from your statement in the 1st post? everywhere:sleepy:

ncon
September 9th, 2005, 12:03 PM
[QUOTE=encon]lets post old Dutch Building in this post !! not Just in KOTA but everywhere!!

Why different from your statement in the 1st post? everywhere:sleepy:


WHAT i mean everywhere is still in Jakarta not in KOTA but srrounding still at Jakarta though :sleepy:

Nemo
September 9th, 2005, 03:14 PM
BTW by opening this thread you are ignoring 2 already existing threads. @Ndiw and I, already started a thread for Jakarta/Batavia (and surroundings like Bogor) a long time ago. Its a pity theres a new one now because same-subject-threads are confusing.

ncon
September 9th, 2005, 03:28 PM
BTW by opening this thread you are ignoring 2 already existing threads. @Ndiw and I, already started a thread for Jakarta/Batavia (and surroundings like Bogor) a long time ago. Its a pity theres a new one now because same-subject-threads are confusing.


i know i try to link them by providing the sites don't worry :D

ncon
September 11th, 2005, 08:07 AM
don't know where to put this so i put here:
Pics of old Jakarta/Batavia
All pics from: http://arsip.jakarta.go.id/dokumenter.html

The center of trade since the era of VOC around Kalibesar
http://arsip.jakarta.go.id/IMAGES/dokumenter_arsip/dokumenter_0101.jpg

The construction of Hotel Indonesia
http://arsip.jakarta.go.id/IMAGES/dokumenter_arsip/dokumenter_0104.jpg

Senayan stadion in process, 1961
http://arsip.jakarta.go.id/IMAGES/dokumenter_arsip/dokumenter_0105.jpg

David-80
November 3rd, 2005, 07:30 PM
I just merged this four same threads into one thread, so if you want to post anything related to Jakarta/Batavia old pictures, please post it here.

cheers

UMD
November 4th, 2005, 12:49 PM
I love the Amsterdam Gate..... Who's idiotic idea is it to demolish that Gate? I remember Suharto demolised a lot of colonial buildings in Jakarta. Where is the King's Plain now in Jakarta? Well, it the government had kept all the old colonial buildings, Jakarta would now be one of the most beautiful cities in the region. Who would go to Europe if right here in the tropic, you will also see all the old dutch and European style buildings. I hope the government now can start preserve all these old buildings and may re-elect the several beautiful ones demolished before and place it in the right place.

Anyone knows if they have put back the Venus statue back on the intersection of Harmonie? The statue was supposed to be cleaned several years back.

havoxx
November 5th, 2005, 12:02 AM
Anyone knows if they have put back the Venus statue back on the intersection of Harmonie? The statue was supposed to be cleaned several years back.

I thought it was Mercury...:|

UMD
November 5th, 2005, 03:01 PM
I thought it was Mercury...:|

You may be right....It could possibly be Mercury. By the way, anyone knows is she is back in her rightful place on the intersection of Harmoni?

Blue_Sky
November 9th, 2005, 07:31 AM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c262/dave_win4/jakarta/ft79.jpg

corduroy
November 9th, 2005, 07:37 AM
I love the Amsterdam Gate..... Who's idiotic idea is it to demolish that Gate? I remember Suharto demolised a lot of colonial buildings in Jakarta. Where is the King's Plain now in Jakarta?
Anyone knows if they have put back the Venus statue back on the intersection of Harmonie? The statue was supposed to be cleaned several years back.

King's Plain = Lapangan Banteng

The replica of the Mercury statue is now back on Harmonie bridge, the real one is now in National Museum because somebody stole that statue a few years back before it was recovered.

Blue_Sky
November 9th, 2005, 07:50 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/j4mbronk/omnibatavia1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/j4mbronk/omnibatavia2.jpg

Blue_Sky
November 9th, 2005, 07:51 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/j4mbronk/jembatangantunk.jpg

paradyto
November 10th, 2005, 01:56 AM
I like this thread!!!!:)

enjoy:)

Nemo
November 10th, 2005, 05:37 PM
@BlueSky

Is that last picture an original Dutch colonial building??? It looks fake to me; built at a later time.

BTW; The pic of the National Museum is fantastic!! Did you know it was actually the first and thereby the oldest museum in SouthEast Asia? :)

Blue_Sky
November 10th, 2005, 05:50 PM
That is hotel omni Batavia and jembatan gantoenk kali besar - kota
about the history im not so sure

h4nh4n
November 11th, 2005, 04:18 AM
can't find the history when the hotel was built....

i reckon this one not original from Dutch coliaze, because this Hotel pretty big....

http://hotel.jakweb.com/jakarta/omnibatavia/

numpty
November 16th, 2005, 11:21 AM
what a great thread!!!

there 's some more great pictures of Jakarta and the old city of Banten http://www.the-spiceislands.com/Indonesia/indonesia.htm (here)

an interesting read is A S Heuken book Historical Sites of Jakarta which has great detail and background of the old city

numpty
November 16th, 2005, 11:32 AM
jeez...it took me ages to go through all this!!!


as someone else said, great thread!!!

ambalat
November 17th, 2005, 10:45 AM
i love this thread, keep on posting guys :)

Mahaputra
November 18th, 2005, 04:07 AM
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/Glodok%20jaman%20doeloe.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/NITMBatavia.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/Pancoran.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/glodok.jpeg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/harmoni%20junction.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/hayam%20wuruk.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/istanamerdeka.jpeg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/jakarta02.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/jakarta05.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/main%20street.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/monas_1969.jpg
http://gallery.adypermadi.com/old-jakarta/rs%20carolus.jpg

paradyto
December 1st, 2005, 02:44 PM
I like "Jakarta" return to becoming "Batavia"...

Ojak
December 6th, 2005, 04:23 AM
Thanks a lot for those vintage pics, reminding me of the old days of Jakarta. Wish the government can keep these historical buildings like in Europe.

numpty
March 5th, 2006, 02:57 AM
http://www.the-spiceislands.com/Images/Indonesia/Jakarta/VOC%20Shipyards.JPG

the old dutch ship yards, now a nicely decorated cafe/restaurant

http://www.the-spiceislands.com/Images/Indonesia/Jakarta/Watchtower.JPG

the old dutch watchtower

http://www.the-spiceislands.com/Images/Indonesia/Jakarta/Lookout%20Post.JPG

the old city wall

http://www.the-spiceislands.com/Images/Indonesia/Jakarta/Courtyard.JPG

inside museum bahari

Alvin
March 9th, 2006, 01:59 AM
Jakarta's crumbling Old Town sees glimmer of hope for a revival

Tue Mar 7, 11:25 AM ET



JAKARTA (AFP) - For nearly 500 years, Indonesia's capital on the shores of the Java Sea has boomed as a major regional trading post, building a rich architectural heritage as it prospered.

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But the crumbling port town has precious little left to showcase its history now, three decades after a campaign to renovate and restore the crumbling buildings stalled almost as soon as it started.

The few hundred historical buildings that have survived the ravages of Indonesia's tropical climate and years of inaction are clustered at the dilapidated Kota Tua, or Old Town, a small area in northern Jakarta capturing the sea breeze.

Fanning out from the 18th-century town hall of what was then called Batavia, a motley array of narrow Dutch townhouses rub shoulders with colonial landmarks, massive art deco buildings from the 1920s and 30s, office towers thrown up in the 1960s and bustling shophouses and warehouses.

"It is a living monument, with businesses, trades and settlement activities still very much alive there," said Candrian Attahiyyat from the city's History and Museum Department.

But unlike other Asian cities that have primped and primed their tangible histories into something culturally thrilling for locals and tourists -- think Singapore's Boat Quay or Malaysia's Malacca -- the capital of the world's fourth most populous nation has done little.

"The current image of the Old Town can be summed up in three words: unsafe, uncomfortable and difficult to access. That needs to be changed," Attahiyyat told AFP.

The lack of nightlife means the area is plunged into semi-darkness once the sun goes down, making it a popular spot for sex workers to prowl, thugs to harass and rats to scuttle.

During the day, the crumbling buildings are an eyesore, while the stink of the Kalibesar River and open sewers mingling with the pollution from the chaotic traffic is just another reason to stay away.

Finally, however, things may be about to change, as the Indonesian capital celebrates its 479th birthday this year.

Experts say the quarter is poised for the much-needed face-lift to go-ahead.

"This time, the political will is there and the city governor is really active in getting everyone interested," said architect Budi Lim, one of those at the forefront of private efforts to revive the neglected area.

Public awareness of the need to revitalize the quarter has been steadily growing in recent years, but a common agreement on what precisely should be done has remained elusive, Attahiyyat said.

Some want a face-lift to entice tourists; some want to see shops luring Jakartans. Others want the area closed to traffic, or the focus to be on restoring the buildings.

"Now we are beginning to at least get agreement among the various parties involved, public or private, that what the area needs is not a mere face-lift, but a revitalization of activities there," Attahiyyat said.

The city is gearing up to improve the lighting and introduce new traffic regulations later this year, while a plan for better public transport has already been drawn up, he said.

The Old Town has endured several attempts to return it to its frenzied heyday, when it was a cosmopolitan center of a thriving Asian commerce and the administrative headquarters of Indonesia's vast archipelago.

The first in the 1970s saw several ancient buildings turned into museums, and the restoration of the Old Town's square and town hall. But further efforts floundered in the face of a lack of funds, focus and coordination.

A second spurt occurred a decade later with an attempt to revive the old commercial district along the river. A plush hotel, esplanade and food hawker center were built, but much-needed changes to other infrastructure in the area -- such as cleaning up the malodorous river itself -- failed to occur.

Now, the groundswell of support for the area's rejuvenation has attracted some local luminaries to the cause.

"The Old Town should be revived for the people of Jakarta, including those already there. I believe in mending the city," said architect Lim, one of Indonesia's few conservation and restoration experts.

"Tourism should only come as a bonus."

Lim is a leading member of Jakarta Old Town Kotaku, one of the groups taking action to inject life back into the district.

"We are trying to get some anchor businesses into the area," Lim said, adding that in particular, his group is trying to encourage arts and crafts galleries and shops to open. Negotiations with several are underway.

There is no blueprint for the whole area. While the private sector can try to draw people to open businesses in the Old Town, the government is responsible for the infrastructure and regulations.

Arya Abieta, an architect from the Indonesian Association of Architects, who has a keen interest in the Old Town, is circumspect over the quarter's future, warning that the potential stumbling blocks remain formidable.

He said these included an obvious lack of coordination between concerned government institutions and unsuitable laws concerning heritage buildings and zones.

"Also, with a focus now on poverty eradication, better health and education, and so on, rejuvenating the Old Town will certainly not be a high priority," he told AFP.

Candrian is nevertheless upbeat, thanks to the interest he sees officials finally taking.

"Let's just hope that this lasts longer than the time it takes for chicken poop to cool," he quipped, referring to a popular Indonesian idiom used to describe a short-lived attention span.

Nemo
May 9th, 2006, 12:17 PM
^^

I hope it's not just talking and planning.

F-ian
May 31st, 2006, 04:02 PM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=352217&page=3

Vote for Batavia :D

aryo
June 14th, 2006, 12:34 AM
i'm in the middle of the process of making a website dedicated to the old jakarta (kota tua) community, and the gallery is one of the focal points.
i never realized that some pictures (of old batavia) i put in my gallery were already posted here. i wonder if i'm violating some copyright laws or something.

do i need specific permission to put other people's pictures in my gallery? cuz i have no idea where they originally came from and who to contact about it, so i pretty much left out credits for the pics.

this is my website: http://www.oldjakarta.com (it's still in the works btw)
can anyone give me information on the ethics of postng pictures from other places? cuz the pics in this thread are simply AMAZING, and i was thinking about putting some of them on my site.

ncon
July 8th, 2006, 08:13 AM
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6684/dsc06261s3uh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ncon
July 8th, 2006, 08:15 AM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4431/dsc06255s3em.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4990/dsc06254s5eg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ncon
July 8th, 2006, 08:16 AM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1677/dsc06256s6bx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8708/dsc06257s5ml.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5281/dsc06259s1ho.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ncon
July 8th, 2006, 08:19 AM
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5266/dsc06258s7hw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ncon
July 8th, 2006, 08:22 AM
Kota to be transformed into heritage site
TheJakartaPost.com, Tuesday, June 20, 2006
by Anissa S. Febrina and Intan Ismawati

When it comes to revitalizing Jakarta's historic Old Town area, the city administration is thinking big and starting small.

In fact, it might start with something as small as revamping a strip beside the Jakarta Historical Museum, but the project's vision is to re-make the area better known as Kota into a heritage site to rival those in European cities.

"The ultimate goal is to transform Kota into a cultural tourism spot that features heritage values, but still allows room for economic activities," Jakarta Culture and Museum Agency head Aurora Tambunan said recently.

After almost a decade without real urban development, Kota's facelift will begin with the remake of Jl. Pintu Besar Utara, a semi-pedestrian strip in West Jakarta.

The street houses three museums -- the Jakarta Historical Museum, the Puppet Museum, and the Art and Ceramic Museum -- as well as several empty buildings.

Under the plan, it will no longer be just a strip that people speed past on their way to other destinations.

The administration hopes vehicles will give way to people on foot later this year, as the 8-meter wide lane will be reduced to a 5-meter, meandering street.

"What we are trying to do is to calm the traffic, so that people can enjoy the heritage sites," Aurora said. "We hope that the ones who come through are those who want to enjoy the value of the area." To calming the traffic, the authority plans to change the ground cover of the street from asphalt to andesit stone blocks both on the pedestrian and street level.

Public transportation will also be re-routed west through Jl. Bank.

All cables will be moved underground and tall trees will be regularly maintained so as not to block the buildings' facades.

Several physical details, such as brass plates engraved with information about the area's architectural heritage, will be added later.

"It might seem like just a physical project, but it is aimed at creating a better image and gaining the trust of investors as well as the public that the revitalization can happen," she added.

The 193-hectare area's revival has been planned since 1973, but little has actually taken place.

Dozens of old buildings dating back to the 17th century are being used only as sets for film shoots, photography backdrops, and sleeping quarters for the homeless.

The administration will expand the street-revamping project to Jl. Kali Besar Timur and Jl. Pos Kota, as well as giving Fatahillah Square a makeover.

Two alleys connecting Fatahillah Square to Kali Besar will be made purely pedestrian areas.

"As the image changes, we hope that private investors will be convinced to find new uses for their old buildings there," Aurora said.

Investors are currently considering revitalizing eight old buildings, the organization Jakarta Old Town Kotaku (JOK) reported.

Aurora added that her agency will start lobbying several building owners to make room for street vendors on their first floors.

"Vendors should stay on the streets temporarily. As they grow bigger, they should occupy a permanent place," she explained.

Meanwhile, JOK member Ella Ubaidi explained that revitalizing the area is about more than conserving buildings.

"It involves social, economic and cultural aspects. As long as we see it as mere conservation, it will never work," she said.

NYDJ USA
July 8th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Talking about the Old City BATAVIA (BETAWI), I live in New York City....which originaly known as NEW AMSTERDAM, well it used belong to the DUCTH before....then the BRITISH took it from the DUCTH.

Here in upstate new york, there a town name BATAVIA too.

NYDJ USA >>>> JAMPANG BETAWI.

londoh
July 8th, 2006, 12:53 PM
i never realized that some pictures (of old batavia) i put in my gallery were already posted here. i wonder if i'm violating some copyright laws or something.

do i need specific permission to put other people's pictures in my gallery? cuz i have no idea where they originally came from and who to contact about it, so i pretty much left out credits for the pics.

this is my website: http://www.oldjakarta.com (it's still in the works btw)
can anyone give me information on the ethics of postng pictures from other places? cuz the pics in this thread are simply AMAZING, and i was thinking about putting some of them on my site.

Are you really so naive ? I cannot believe this

aryo
August 4th, 2006, 02:35 PM
jeez i was only asking. thanks for the info though.

Blue_Sky
August 4th, 2006, 02:54 PM
I think SSC mods or the one who posted it can clarify this problem

F-ian
May 20th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Gerbang Lama Town Hall
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/7281d032.jpg

before 1870
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/752da58a.jpg

after 1870
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Anarima4/de959621.jpg

The Amsterdam gate right?^^

The JKT Govt. is going to rebuild it again

Membangun Gerbang Amsterdam di Kota Tua

20/05/2007 13:56:39 WIB
JAKARTA, Investor Daily

Rambu dilarang masuk bagi kendaraan bermotor langsung menyambut pengguna jalan di pertigaan Jalan Pintu Besar Utara arah Museum Fatahillah. Pengguna mobil dan sepeda motor yang ingin ke Jalan Kunir, Jalan Malaka, Jalan Cengkeh, dan Pasar Ikan terpaksa berputar melalui Jalan Bank.

Pemerintah Provinsi (Pemprov) DKI Jakarta sengaja memasang rambu dilarang masuk tersebut supaya Jalan Pintu Besar Utara mulai dari Museum Fatahillah hingga Jalan Kunir bebas kendaraan. Sebab, kawasan sepanjang 300 meter itu menjadi kawasan percontohan Kota Tua.

Bagi warga Jakarta dan turis mancanegara yang gemar menikmati kawasan Kota Tua, nantinya bisa bebas berjalan kaki. Sebab, sejak 2005, Pemprov DKI membongkar jalan aspal di sepanjang Jalan Pintu Besar Utara diganti dengan blok beton persegi empat.

Pembuatan jalur khusus pejalan kaki (pedestrian) itu hampir selesai. Blok beton sudah terhampar rapih menyatu dengan bangunan tua khas arsitektur Eropa abad 16 yang masih ada. Situasi pun sangat berbeda dengan kawasan di sekelilingnya yang macet, bising, dan penuh polusi asap kendaraan, terutama di sepanjang Jalan Bank, Jalan Kunir, dan Jalan Pos Kota (dekat Stasiun Kereta Api Jakarta Kota).

Sementara itu, kawasan khusus pejalan kaki di Kota Tua sekitar Museum Fatahillah bisa lebih tenang dan leluasa. Bahkan, banyak sepasang kekasih berfoto dengan busana mirip bangsawan Eropa pada 400 tahun silam dengan latar belakang bangunan tua. Keceriaan tampak dari raut wajah mereka. Hal itu berkat sebuah program yang dikenal dengan istilah Revitalisasi Kota Tua.

Gubernur DKI Sutiyoso sudah menetapkannya sebagai program prioritas. Setelah pembenahan kawasan Kota Tua di sekitar Museum Fatahillah di Jalan Pintu Besar Utara, revitalisasi kemudian dilanjutkan ke Jalan Kunir Kali Besar Timur sepanjang 350 meter.

“Kalau di Jalan Kunir itu, mulai 2008. Tapi kalau revitalisasi di Jalan Pintu Besar Utara hanya tinggal mengganti pelataran Museum Fatahillah dengan blok beton yang coraknya sama dengan jalan,” kata Kepala Subdinas Pengawasan dan Cagar Budaya Dinas Kebudayaan dan Permuseuman DKI Jakarta Candrian Attahiyat kepada Investor Daily di Jakarta, Jumat (18/5).

Menurut Candrian, pihaknya akan memasang blok beton di pelataran Museum Fatahillah itu pada Juni-Juli 2007. Dengan demikian, pada Agustus atau paling telat Desember tahun ini bisa diresmikan oleh gubernur. “Kami juga akan membangun Gerbang Amsterdam karena Jakarta dulu yakni Batavia pernah dirancang sebagai Amsterdam dari Timur oleh Hindia Belanda,” tutur Candrian.

Gerbang Amsterdam nanti dibuat tak jauh dari Museum Fatahillah, tepatnya di ruas jalan arah Museum Wayang menuju Museum Bahari. Pada 400 tahun silam, Gerbang Amsterdam sudah dibangun oleh Gubernur Batavia Jan Pieterszoon Coen. Gerbang itu berfungsi sebagai tempat pemeriksaan bagi orang yang ingin melintas ke Balai Kota Batavia (saat ini Museum Fatahillah, red).

Nuansa Amsterdam, Belanda sebenarnya sudah terungkap di kawasan Kota Tua Jakarta yang ditandai adanya jembatan kayu berwarna coklat kemerahan, dekat Hotel Omni Batavia. Jembatan yang dikenal dengan nama Jembatan Pasar Ayam itu dibangun Belanda pada 1628 sesuai dengan gaya aslinya di Amsterdam, yakni bisa diangkat ketika kapal-kapal melintasinya.“Ya, kami akan membangkitkan gairah itu supaya Kota Tua punya daya tarik bagi wisatawan dan investor,” ujar Candrian.

Selain membuat infrastruktur jalan, Pemprov DKI nantinya juga akan melengkapi keindahan Kota Tua dengan taman interaktif dan penerangan jalan. Diharapkan, pembenahan itu dapat merangsang minat pemilik bangunan dan investor untuk memperbaiki bangunan tua khas Eropa yang kini sudah usang tidak terawat.

Jika dipugar kembali, suasana di Kota Tua bakal lebih indah. Apalagi, nanti akan ada patung-patung dan kafe-kafe dengan paviliun atau tenda-tenda lengkap dengan hiburan musik. Suasananya dijamin romantis dan nyaman terutama di malam hari. “Seperti kita jala-jalan ke Amsterdam, Roma, Barcelona, ataupun ke Malaka di Malaysia,” ujar Candrian.

Namun, dia mengakui, revitalisasi Kota Tua tidak menjangkau ke seluruh wilayah Kota Tua, tapi baru di kawasan Museum Fatahillah. Sementara peta Kota Tua sisa-sisa kebesaran pusat Pemerintahan Hindia Belanda empat abad lalu sebenarnya mulai dari Pancoran Glodok (Pecinan), Jakarta Barat hingga Pelabuhan Sunda Kelapa, Jakarta Utara. Luasnya mencapai 864 hektare.

Ketika itu para pedagang asal Belanda tiba di Batavia pada 1596 dengan tujuan mencari rempah-rempah. Hasil bumi itu sangat diburu Belanda karena bisa menjadi obat, penghangat badan, dan bahan wangi-wangian. Para pedagang Belanda yang kemudian tergabung dalam VOC mendirikan benteng di selatan Pelabuhan Sunda Kelapa pada 1613. VOC ingin Batavia menjadi pusat perdagangan.

Hal itu tampak ketika VOC membangun Menara Syahbandar yang berfungsi sebagai kantor pabean atau pengumpulan pajak dari barang-barang yang diturunkan di pelabuhan. Lokasi menara itu dekat dengan Museum Bahari, Pasar Ikan.

Di sisi selatan, berdiri megah bangunan Museum Sejarah Jakarta yang dikenal Museum Fatahillah. Ketika itu, Museum Fatahillah menjadi Balai Kota, pusat pemerintahan Batavia pada 1620 hingga 1707.

paw25694
May 20th, 2007, 03:01 PM
^^ that's cool :D:D

Surakarta
May 20th, 2007, 06:22 PM
Wow..good news, is already open for publics ?

bonekedan
May 21st, 2007, 08:44 AM
cant wait to see that...hope the gate already done when im back home.:)

Blue_Sky
May 21st, 2007, 06:01 PM
Wouldn't that be look a bit fake if they re-build it

paw25694
May 22nd, 2007, 07:57 AM
^^ yea.. i was thinking that way too.. ??

tata
May 24th, 2007, 10:39 PM
let's say this is rebuild for our next generation (200-300 more years). --sounds good no?

J`Town
August 1st, 2007, 08:54 AM
Old Jakarta - 1919

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQcVyAlKSE&NR=1

Looks very peaceful then. sorry dunno how to embed, it just came out in my post as codes.... :(

orang jawa
January 23rd, 2010, 05:39 AM
waw.. that's my city a long long time ago...
nice... tanks for sharing... :cheers:

Balandra
January 23rd, 2010, 05:58 PM
Haha
komennya gue pikir cuman bertujuan buat nyundul nih lapak, biar eksis lagi. btw thanks bro.
nice thread, TSnya kayaknya udah ga eksis malah.