The new block looks a bit stark at the moment but once the older facade is revealed I think it will blend in better.

A couple of other observations from Monday of this week. First the Temple works - the damaged bit is now covered up and there were sounds of work going on - are they repairing the frontage? Was this announced?

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Manor Mills looks quite good in the sunshine - but that green cladding is cheap. Anyway workmen were in the office unit on Manor Road - so that must be the one reported in this thread that has been let.

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The Mint really looks quality. Lots of comings and goings and definate signs of occupation - although not sure that ASDA have moved in yet. The guy in the car park opposite says that it is not now pay and display but is for use of ASDA employees. I wonder whether ASDA may finish up taking up the whole of this building?

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What a great building. The cladding looks similar to Trinity. Would be good if ASDA decided to take up all of the building.

What a great building. The cladding looks similar to Trinity. Would be good if ASDA decided to take up all of the building.

yeah, i think it would suit the ASDA logo... perhaps a nice metallic version though, not the elf green :lol:

It is a great building, but it deserves to be amongst similarly great buildings, in a dense, properly urban area. It's such a shame the area remains a sea of surface car parking. We'll just have to wait I suppose.

http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/210789-prop-good-news-as-media-space-nears-completion.html?news_section=42
Good news as media space nears completion

24th August 2011
By Ian Briggs - Editor, Yorkshire

WORK to create space for the region's blossoming digital and new media industries at an historic former mill complex is nearing completion - giving a fillip to Yorkshire's property sector.

Scaffolding is being removed from the exterior of Tower Works in Leeds as 18,000 sq ft of commercial space is created at the site.

The project, which has seen £6.7m invested by regional development agency Yorkshire Forward, has seen a phase of demolition work carried out at the industrial heritage landmark, while the complex's three existing chimney towers, which are listed, are being stabilised.

The redevelopment - one of the few projects to be started and continued through the economic downturn - will create office accommodation to complement the Round Foundry Media Centre - the headquarters of TheBusinessDesk.com - at Holbeck Urban Village.

The present phase of work at Tower Works - which is expected to be completed by November - involves the stabilisation of one of the three chimneys and restoration and conversion of two listed buildings with new build elements, which will eventually provide serviced office accommodation and community space.

The external work is nearing completion and will be ready for occupancy by the end of the year.

The complex comprises the three Italianate chimneys built around a former steel pin factory dating from 1864, which was owned by Colonel Thomas Harding.

The 2.83 acre site was acquired by regional development agency Yorkshire Forward in 2005 but it will shortly pass into the control of the Homes & Communications Agency.

A Yorkshire Forward spokesperson said: "Tower Works sits in the Holbeck area of Leeds, which has become a key centre for creative and digital industries within the region.

"Due to the economic difficulties in the development market over the past three years, Yorkshire Forward has stepped in to directly undertake the first phase of development, in order to kick-start the development and in so doing prevent deterioration of the listed buildings.

"To date, listed building issues have been addressed and works to preserve and stabilise the listed building known as ‘the entrance range’ have been largely completed to provide shell office space.

"This now provides a platform to fit out the shell as offices and workspace for use as grow on space for Yorkshire Forward’s highly successful Round Foundry Media Centre, situated nearby."

Future phases at the site, which are planned to be delivered by a private developer, will include shops, bars and cafes at ground level and offices and residential apartments above. The total office space generated by the whole development is expected to be more than 110,000 sq ft.

The scheme will include 150 residential units and approximately 8,000 sq ft of retail or leisure space.

haven't had a chance to go nose around Tower Works in a while but CliffordStead has... scaffolding appears to be down :)

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the photo doesn't have the "share on BB" option so you will have to follow the link to Flickr boys and girls

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haven't had a chance to go nose around Tower Works in a while but CliffordStead has... scaffolding appears to be down :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cliffordstead/6085917875/

the photo doesn't have the "share on BB" option so you will have to follow the link to Flickr boys and girls

Thanks for the heads up. I love what Yorkshire Forward have done with the work so far, even the new build which isn't popular with some forumers.

To remind us of what a parlous state Tower Works was in, compare the photo below of the entrance archway with the shot of the same entrance in Clifford Stead's collection.


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That photo could have been taken in Rome

I think it is great that money is being spent on regenerating the area around the 'Holbeck Urban Village' but it would be good if more locals realised that these magnificent buildings. I've lost count the amount of times that I have told people about the likes of The Temple Works to be looked at blankly.

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As ever, great pictures, tigerman. You even managed to arrange decent weather for when you were snapping away. :cheers:

Can't make my mind up about the new brick box. It looks OK in photo 1, but less good in 2 & 3. Perhaps it's one of those features that is OK from a distance, but not so good close up when the difference between the old and the new is more obvious.

Great pictures, though.

A few trees/greenery to break up all the brick would be good...

High Line phase 2 report from New York. Leeds CC should take a flight over and find out the rational for investment and what the expected returns are. The viaducts to Holbeck and at Wellington Place could become great tourist attractions.

Perhaps we could become Flatiron (Nb Leeds' Bridge House) and High Line twins!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/08/high-line-park-new-york (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/08/high-line-park-new-york)

Excellent Culturevulture article about the possibility of using the disused rail tracks and viaducts as a high line sky route complete with photos of the walkway.
http://theculturevulture.co.uk/blog/headline/holbeck-viaduct-or-what-happened-to-our-skywalk/

Wow amazing photographs. I think I am due to take the camera out and explore that area of Leeds soon.

A few pictures of Tower Works during a site visit earlier in the week ...

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Not another office development!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why is the City Council so obsessed with building office developments / business parks? There're so many office spaces in the city (many newly built) which are lying empty!!!:ohno:

This could have been a prime location for a riverside leisure entertainment complex!!

This is coming along now - looks like they've started putting in some nice copper balconies and features?

I'd say to Mister City that this office space is useful and necessary. It's aimed particularly at creative businesses and intended as follow-on space for companies outgrowing the adjacent Round Foundry who want to stay in the HUV area.

The offices will be quite small and quirky, and it's not appropriate to compare them directly with some of the large floorplate modern offices elsewhere, such as Broadgate or No. 1 Leeds. Not all empty offices are of good quality either, many of the older, shabbier buildings lie empty whilst - new build small units of high quality (e.g. 10 South Parade, 14 King Street or the 'Air' element of Broadgate) have let well. Besides, the Leeds letting market has seen an encouraging upsurge in recent months and at this rate there will actually be a shortage of high quality office space in the city in a couple of years time as there's little new construction underway.

Holbeck Urban Village already has a few good bars and restaurants, and there is Granary Wharf across the river from this with even more. I'd argue more offices full of workers are needed in the area before more bars and restaurants can be built to serve them.

I agree- the people need to be in the area before leisure can arrive. These offices will hopefully build on the success of the Round Foundry. I hope they are geared towards media/digital industries.

Not another office development!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why is the City Council so obsessed with building office developments / business parks? There're so many office spaces in the city (many newly built) which are lying empty!!!:ohno:

This could have been a prime location for a riverside leisure entertainment complex!!


Are you talking about the Tower Works site? Is so, it's nothing to do with the city council. Nor is the site going to be a business park or wholly offices.

Otherwise, I'd say you were spot on.

Are you talking about the Tower Works site? Is so, it's nothing to do with the city council. Nor is the site going to be a business park or wholly offices.

Otherwise, I'd say you were spot on.

Yes, I was referring to the Tower Works site!! Glad it's not going to only consist of offices!! I really hope the ground level units are converted into bars /restaurants as that would be a great spot to have a drink especially in the summer!!

Not sure if this has already been mentioned before, but ASDA have signed up for 38,000 sqft of office space in the Mint building.

^^Yup!

Asda have taken floors 1 & 2 and half the ground floor and apparently the car park opposite - but not sure they have moved in yet.

They appear to have moved, at least in part. The car park opposite is now designated as ASDA employees only and is fairly full. One half of the ground floor is completely empty, the other half is a working canteen. Difficult to see if the other floors are occupied, there's people about but a lot of empty desks. There's still about 75,000 sqft left. I can see a small supermarket such as Sainsbury's Local taking the empty ground floor space, or alternatively the vacant ground floor of Manor Mills, next door.

I can see a small supermarket such as Sainsbury's Local taking the empty ground floor space, or alternatively the vacant ground floor of Manor Mills, next door.

That would be ironic, considering the space is now effectively occupied by ASDA's HQ...

They appear to have moved, at least in part. The car park opposite is now designated as ASDA employees only and is fairly full. One half of the ground floor is completely empty, the other half is a working canteen. Difficult to see if the other floors are occupied, there's people about but a lot of empty desks. There's still about 75,000 sqft left. I can see a small supermarket such as Sainsbury's Local taking the empty ground floor space, or alternatively the vacant ground floor of Manor Mills, next door.

Good to see you back in Leeds, Talisker. Weren't you in Newcastle for a while?

Thanks, yes I was in Newcastle, and Vancouver for a while. Good to be back here, though.

Thanks, yes I was in Newcastle, and Vancouver for a while. Good to be back here, though.

How does Newcastle compare to Leeds btw, would you rate it ?... my mate is currently working in Leeds but will be moving up to Newcastle soon.

I find Newcastle a more 'likeable' city although both have their merits. Leeds is - or was -more confident and has seen a lot more construction in recent years. But, Leeds doesn't have a city centre open-cast coal mine, while is being proposed in Newcastle for the Science City site. The Ouseburn area of Newcastle has similarities to Holbeck urban village. The best areas for housing are Jesmond, Gosforth and Heaton.

Ah cool, whats the main student area btw & how does it compare to somewhere like Headingly etc ?...

I'd imagine Jesmond and Headingly are fairly equivalent, although I don't have much knowledge of either. I lived in South Shields, which is on the outskirts of the conurbation and is actually closer to Sunderland. Jesmond does have a huge amount of nice Victorian terraced housing and I remember some townhouses going on the market for £1million a few years ago.

Indeed Jesmond is sort of Newcastle's version of Headingley, except Jesmond is quite a bit more affluent with a significant population of wealthy non-student types too, and a larger amount of decent, period housing stock.

Newcastle is probably a better city to visit at the moment; but Leeds has every potential to rival it though if it gets on with regenerating the South Bank in a daring way.

I like Newcastle- it's a vibrant, fun city. Very compact but it doesn't lose the feeling of a big city. I feel it has the bohemian feel similar to Brighton and Bristol.

Newcastle has more tourist attractions, though it is equal to Leeds in terms of visitor numbers.. probably due to its location away from everywhere else.

Although it is lucky to be on the main part of the ECML that links the UKs three most prolific tourist destinations- London, York and Edinburgh.

Newcastle is probably a better city to visit at the moment; but Leeds has every potential to rival it though if it gets on with regenerating the South Bank in a daring way.

I like Newcastle- it's a vibrant, fun city. Very compact but it doesn't lose the feeling of a big city. I feel it has the bohemian feel similar to Brighton and Bristol.

You've hit the nail on the head 'Leeds No.1'. Leeds has the potential to be as buzzing as cities such as Newcastle and Manchester if the South Bank developed in the right way i.e. build another tourist attraction e.g. a museum, more bars /pubs / restaurants along the river and maybe a conference centre.

However, I fear it will just become yet another office development/ apartment development. I really hope this is not the case. Leeds needs to expand it's attractions leisure facilties if it wants to rival the great cities of this country.

I'd prefer something more like Granary Wharf or Round Foundry, which have been two of Leeds biggest success stories for me. It's the quality of construction that counts most as that forms the lasting legacy. Or a zoo. That would would be an ideal use for such a large space.

Or a zoo. That would would be an ideal use for such a large space.

love it! then we could have some actual Leeds Rhinos!! :D

I'd prefer something more like Granary Wharf or Round Foundry, which have been two of Leeds biggest success stories for me. It's the quality of construction that counts most as that forms the lasting legacy. Or a zoo. That would would be an ideal use for such a large space.

I think a zoo could be built alongside my above suggestions. The South Bank is huge enough to accommodate all these suggestions. I personally feel too many office apartments are being built in the city centre which are simply not needed!! Hence, my fear of the South Bank becoming yet another office development!!

I personally feel too many office apartments are being built in the city centre which are simply not needed!! Hence, my fear of the South Bank becoming yet another office development!!

If you knew anything about property or the local economy, you'd know they will be needed in a few years.

I think a zoo could be built alongside my above suggestions. The South Bank is huge enough to accommodate all these suggestions. I personally feel too many office apartments are being built in the city centre which are simply not needed!! Hence, my fear of the South Bank becoming yet another office development!!

If you knew anything about property or the local economy, you'd know they will be needed in a few years.

What's with the claws coming out on that last comment SK?

If you knew anything about property or the local economy, you'd know they will be needed in a few years.


Yes, I understand the need for offices in the city centre but I just hope South Bank doesn't become a huge business park. It could really take Leeds up a few gears if developed to its full potential.

What's with the claws coming out on that last comment SK?

No claws! I guess I just get a bit grounded in the realities every now and then, but it's fine if people have dreams I guess.

Yes, I understand the need for offices in the city centre but I just hope South Bank doesn't become a huge business park. It could really take Leeds up a few gears if developed to its full potential.

True - what we don't want is a bland business park, like Leeds City Office Park or Central Park nearby. There'll defo be a big need for flats and offices in future, but it'd be nice to combine them with leisure attractions and the long anticipated city centre park down that way. The new bridge across the river will be a good start too.

Not sure how serious Mr City is with the Zoo suggestion, I'm hoping it's tongue in cheek.

You've hit the nail on the head 'Leeds No.1'. Leeds has the potential to be as buzzing as cities such as Newcastle and Manchester if the South Bank developed in the right way i.e. build another tourist attraction e.g. a museum, more bars /pubs / restaurants along the river and maybe a conference centre.

However, I fear it will just become yet another office development/ apartment development. I really hope this is not the case. Leeds needs to expand it's attractions leisure facilties if it wants to rival the great cities of this country.

Leeds is more buzzing than Newcastle, I think everyone can agree with this.

Not sure how serious Mr City is with the Zoo suggestion, I'm hoping it's tongue in cheek.

Yes, I was but I think the city needs another tourist attraction such as a science museum or something along the lines of 'Urbis' in Leeds would be great as well as the aforementioned new city center park and other leisure / entertainment facilities.

If you knew anything about property or the local economy, you'd know they will be needed in a few years.

They will, but I'm not too sure whether apartments on south-bank are the solution.

I'd rather see leisure as the main focal point with minimal apartments involved. At some point areas such as Crown Point Retail Park will go to make way for new developments, and when this time comes I don't want to see a small park surrounded by apartments.

I'm under the impression that the South Bank vision doesn't take into account the vast levels of wasteland south of the center. If we just focus on this part of town alone it will become too small when the city expands over all this wasteland- which inevitably it will.

The South Bank and Holbeck are Leeds' opportunities to become a real tourist centre in the long term. It would be a long, and expensive, journey though- but it would be a huge boost to the city eventually- whatever development happens, it needs to have the same concept behind it that the Victorians had when they built things like Kirkgate Market or the Corn Exchange, or when Roundhay Park became public.

So long as they don't turn out like Clarance Dock. They must have a range of attractions which will bring people to these sites

A park is bound to be successful whenever the sun's out. People also will always take trips to attractions like art galleries- it's got the loyal backing, following and participation of the regional artist community.

I expect that Clarence Dock will eventually be able to play off its success as the developments of the South Bank join up to become part of the wider City Centre.

Clarence Dock is too far from the main centre of Leeds to be that popular. Holbeck has great potential, parts of it have already become the city centre more or less (Granary Wharf).

Clarence Dock is too far from the main centre of Leeds to be that popular. Holbeck has great potential, parts of it have already become the city centre more or less (Granary Wharf).

Not sure I agree with you on that one Aj09. It's a discussion we have had many times about C.D. and the distance it is from the city centre. Ofcourse it depends on what or where you class the city centre. For my part I would have thought that C.D. is closer to the city centre [ the main shopping area ] than Holbeck.

The reason C.D. is not " popular " is not to do with distance but more to do with the lack of anything down there apart from R.As. I'm sure it's a great place to live and work and in that respect C.D. is a success it's just on the retail/tourist front it fails.

I'm sure it's a great place to live and work and in that respect C.D. is a success it's just on the retail/tourist front it fails

I wouldn't say that just because Clarence Dock has a high occupancy rate that it automatically makes the place a success. Yes, many people may have actively chosen to live there but I bet many people also live there out of necessity. It's a horribly cold, sterile environment, lacking greenery and real amenities that make an area a pleasant place to live. I imagine all but the most foolhardy will want to move out within a couple of years down there. Fortunately by that time the next wave of newbies will be queuing up to do their time and take their place.

Clarence Dock is too far from the main centre of Leeds to be that popular. Holbeck has great potential, parts of it have already become the city centre more or less (Granary Wharf).

it's really not. 5-10 minute walk depending on where you start from in town... it seems further because of the brewery, big roads and dereliction that you pass along the way. the south bank regen will hopefully solve this issue.

actually, you what would really help connect CD to town is the regeneration of Kirkgate because once you're at the bottom of that road near the Etap and Palace pub it's just a couple of minutes

But most people probably aren't willing to go all the way there. I went a few months back and it is separated from the main City by lots of busy main roads and overpasses.

it's really not. 5-10 minute walk depending on where you start from in town... it seems further because of the brewery, big roads and dereliction that you pass along the way. the south bank regen will hopefully solve this issue.

actually, you what would really help connect CD to town is the regeneration of Kirkgate because once you're at the bottom of that road near the Etap and Palace pub it's just a couple of minutes

That's a long way round. The quickest easiest way from C.D. into the main shopping centre of the city, is along the canal towpath past Brewery Wharf cross the pedestrian bridge drop on to the Calls and then up to the Corn Exchange. Not only is it quick and easy, it's traffic free till crossing the Calls

New York highline: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15208873

I'm sure there was once a plan to do something similar in Holbeck.

The plan is still a plan... although won't go anywhere until there's some money around and someone to drive it forward.

I've been along the High Line though- it's great. Really interactive too- not just plants and paths, but sculptures, fountains and water features you can paddle in, sunbeds... I loved the way it winds through the buildings too.

The plan is still a plan... although won't go anywhere until there's some money around and someone to drive it forward.

I've been along the High Line though- it's great. Really interactive too- not just plants and paths, but sculptures, fountains and water features you can paddle in, sunbeds... I loved the way it winds through the buildings too.


Well lets hope it becomes reality. Something like this could really put Leeds on the map!!

Think it's best if we focus efforts on developing the South Bank and HUV at the moment; particularly the City Park and Tower Works.

The high lane project has been around for years, it's one that will have such a positive impact on the area but sadly it won't make any money so it's unlikely it'll be financed.

http://www.baumanlyons.co.uk/projects/connecting-edges/holbeck-viaduct

I doubt doing anything with the Leeds viaduct will have as much of a splash as NY's highline. The one in NY weaves over and through dense districts of old 19th century warehouses that are gradually being reused for innovative purposes. Leeds' viaduct goes over low density, low rise generic industrial units and retail parks and basically connects with the attraction-free industrial zone of Gelderd Road.

It's a nice idea and could work as an attractive footpath to walk into the city centre from Elland Road, but can't see it pulling in tourists in droves.

I think the short part that goes through HUV could work if HUV itself is successful in the long term.

The viaduct that used to go into Leeds Central might be better for this type of project- especially as there's a long term masterplan there anyway.

I doubt doing anything with the Leeds viaduct will have as much of a splash as NY's highline. The one in NY weaves over and through dense districts of old 19th century warehouses that are gradually being reused for innovative purposes. Leeds' viaduct goes over low density, low rise generic industrial units and retail parks and basically connects with the attraction-free industrial zone of Gelderd Road.

It's a nice idea and could work as an attractive footpath to walk into the city centre from Elland Road, but can't see it pulling in tourists in droves.

It's not always about pulling tourists in, it's as much creating a green passageway in an urban landscape where you can walk/cycle/jog/ and if planted out enjoy a more geen enviroment.

Cleckheaton/Dewsbury have the Spen Valley Greenway which seems a well used stretch of 7 mile disused rail track, which I guess proves that it can be of use outside NYC.

Cleckheaton/Dewsbury have the Spen Valley Greenway which seems a well used stretch of 7 mile disused rail track, which I guess proves that it can be of use outside NYC.

Not quite the same. On the Spen Valley Greenway (which I've cycled more than once) you can enter/exit at many points along the way. With a viaduct, unless there are stairways at various points, you're more or less stuck on it right to the end.

Not quite the same. On the Spen Valley Greenway (which I've cycled more than once) you can enter/exit at many points along the way. With a viaduct, unless there are stairways at various points, you're more or less stuck on it right to the end.

There will exit points rest assured.

Not quite the same. On the Spen Valley Greenway (which I've cycled more than once) you can enter/exit at many points along the way. With a viaduct, unless there are stairways at various points, you're more or less stuck on it right to the end.

And that's just what you want when there are a load of LUFC fans heading to/from Elland Road along it...

And that's just what you want when there are a load of LUFC fans heading to/from Elland Road along it...

Miserable git.

Found this of the BBC news website.Can't find the right thread for this so here goes-

Leeds mill and Manningham pool among 'at risk' buildings
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A former flax mill in Leeds and a 107-year-old swimming pool in Bradford have been named among the 10 most endangered buildings in England and Wales.

The Grade I-listed Temple Mill, which dates back to 1838, is "seriously at risk", the Victorian Society said.

Manningham Baths, which was closed in July, was a "valuable" building which should be reopened, it said.

Bradford Council and the firm which manages Temple Mill said they were working to protect the buildings.

The Victorian Society compiled its list after a public appeal to find the most at risk Victorian and Edwardian buildings.

Temple Mill was built to house part of John Marshall's 19th Century flax empire.

'Expressions of interest'

The architect, Joseph Bonomi, was an Egyptologist and used his knowledge of ancient temples to influence the mill's design, which includes lotus columns snake motifs and hieroglyphs.

The Victorian Society said the building was "still an astonishing space", but it "needs repairs and three years ago one of the mill's exterior pillars collapsed".

Dr Ian Dungavell, the society's director, said: "Parts of the building are in use by a cultural events company but a clear plan is needed for the whole site to secure its future."

Chris Hall, from SJS Property Management, which manages the building, admitted the mill was at risk but "through no fault of the owners".

He said nearly £1m had been spent on investigations and repairs since the pillar collapse and the building had been found to have an "inherent defect" which dates back to its construction.

He said: "We are doing all that is humanly possible to come up with a workable solution to save the building."

The Victorian Society said Manningham Baths "should be used and celebrated by swimmers in Bradford, not left to rot".

Dr Dungavell said: "Nowhere else in the country could you until recently swim in a pool so close to the appearance of an ordinary pool of the turn of the last century."

Bradford Council said: "We have had a serious expression of interest in the building and are currently in negotiations about this."

this is sad.

Temple mills is an awesome building, and used to have a green roof according to what i read when i was researching holbeck. [a goat used to graze on the roof aparrently]

Temple mills is an awesome building, and used to have a green roof according to what I read when I was researching holbeck. [a goat used to graze on the roof aparrently]

Interesting that you heard that a goat used to graze on the roof, I had heard that it was sheep ... and that the story goes that one fell through one of the roof lights and killed a worker although I suspect that bit might have been made up!

A bit of news on another HUV gem, this one Itlian rather than Egyptian in style!

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/business-news/tower_works_to_play_major_city_role_once_again_1_3865260

Interesting that you heard that a goat used to graze on the roof, I had heard that it was sheep ... and that the story goes that one fell through one of the roof lights and killed a worker although I suspect that bit might have been made up!

A bit of news on another HUV gem, this one Itlian rather than Egyptian in style!

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/business-news/tower_works_to_play_major_city_role_once_again_1_3865260

hahahah, the media, forever accurately researched as always.

interesting little development for the Old Chapel Rehearsal Studio in Holbeck

http://www.leedsmet.ac.uk/about/students-have-designs-on-studios12102011.htm

interesting little development for the Old Chapel Rehearsal Studio in Holbeck

http://www.leedsmet.ac.uk/about/students-have-designs-on-studios12102011.htm

These guys were in my group, albeit they were given a different site in Holbeck [mine was the triangle - has anyone but network rail placed "dibbs" on that brilliant piece of land yet?]

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the view is improving :) was there some kind of topping out ceremony on the new section today? a friend mentioned in passing that something was going on

Shame we'll have to wait fomr some lettings in the newly built workspace before the rest of the site is developed into some attractive public space with leisure use (I'm assuming this is the case?)

Yes, but as it's aimed at small businesses in the growing creative and digital sectors, I have relative hope that the space will be filled. These are the sort of businesses that are being headed up by entrepreneurs; the sort of 'Dragons Den' generation, and money is being made here at the moment. If the space is marketed well enough, and of course affordable, I'm sure many small businesses will want to take space there to raise their profile.

Shame we'll have to wait fomr some lettings in the newly built workspace before the rest of the site is developed into some attractive public space with leisure use (I'm assuming this is the case?)

A lot will depend on how much money the Homes and Communities Agency might be able to invest in the site assuming, of course, that it doesn't try to flog it off cheaply to a private developer.

Shame we'll have to wait fomr some lettings in the newly built workspace before the rest of the site is developed into some attractive public space with leisure use (I'm assuming this is the case?)

Pretty sure that there s some hard lanscaping to be done. If you look on that pic you can see areas being dug out and I am assuming the dark material on the site is probably paving. Whether it will be public access is another thing.

Shame we'll have to wait fomr some lettings in the newly built workspace before the rest of the site is developed into some attractive public space with leisure use (I'm assuming this is the case?)

I thought the Round Foundry was oversubscribed, which would suggest lettings here (as its essentially a carbon copy) would proceed quite quickly.

Ill be betting that this will be the case, top quality development targeting an industry that is growing in this country, well done peeps....

I thought the Round Foundry was oversubscribed, which would suggest lettings here (as its essentially a carbon copy) would proceed quite quickly.

True. I believe the purpose of Tower Works is to provide 'grow on' space in the area for successful companies occupying the Round Foundry. As such, I'd imagine the occupiers on average would take up larger offices than those currently available in the RF - just depends on the appetite for those floorplates I guess, but I'm pretty certain a lot of research has been done in the area on this demand.

Tower Works website now live - www.tower-works.com

Lots of buildings claim to be landmark developments - this one really is

some of which have their own front doors

Sorry but who wrote this tat?

Is it just me or is Holbeck Urban Village very similar to Ancoats in Manchester?

In what way? I think Holbeck has a lot more going for it than Ancoats.

Lots of buildings claim to be landmark developments - this one really is

some of which have their own front doors

Sorry but who wrote this tat?

Why bother selectively lifting quotes from the website? They make sense in the wider context of the text. Some businesses like office accommodation which is self contained and with its own access door - you might have realised that if you didn't spend most of your free time trolling City Talk :lol:

In what way? I think Holbeck has a lot more going for it than Ancoats.

I'd agree - it has a riverside setting and doesn't suffer from being bisected by huge horrible roads in the same way.

In what way? I think Holbeck has a lot more going for it than Ancoats.

I'm meant it's similar in the way in which clusters of old victorian mills and other buidlign have been gentrified to for mainly business / commercial use.

I'm meant it's similar in the way in which clusters of old victorian mills and other buidlign have been gentrified to for mainly business / commercial use.

Its fair to say there are some similarities. I think the developments in HUV have tended to be more thoughtful. The feel actually remind me more of the Northern Quarter in Manchester.

HUV has a much more creative focus too.

Extension of Time Application to 06/04922/OT for multi level development in three blocks up to 8 storeys high, with offices, residential, A3/A4 use with basement car parking

Granary Wharf Car Park Off Water Lane Wharf Approach Holbeck Leeds LS11

Ref. No: 11/01976/EXT | Status: Application Approved

Heritage Statement Part 3 has best renders - see here (https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=LLC99SJB0FZ00)

Architects site (here (http://www.garnettnetherwood.com/granary_wharf.html))

Didn't know about this development, but would love to see it progress. Perfectly located between Tower Works and Granary Wharf.

Heritage Statement Part 3 has best renders - see here (https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=LLC99SJB0FZ00)

Wish I could draw like that!

Great location and decent scale. It's an outline application by the looks of things and doesn't commit on cladding material (either stone or the dreaded rainscreen). The site is being used as a car park at the moment, meaning it's profitable. I can't imagine they would commit to taking this any further unless there was serious demand for office space.

There's a few other similar developments planned for this area including the Green Building and one on the opposite side of the road to Tower Works. Can't see anything actually going ahead for years though.

Thought this was quite interesting to do with temple works at least its getting used and also attracting people to the area!

http://www.thesquareball.net/shop/christmas-party/

I'm very much looking forward to that!!!

11/03925/EXT | Extension of time of application 08/04633/OT for outline application to erect multi level development up to 15 storey's, comprising offices and 51 flats with basement car parking | Prestige Salvage Company Water Lane Holbeck Leeds LS11 9UD

The extension was awarded last month for this midrise.

Public Access Docs (https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=LRM65CJB0FZ00)

Renders from architects site here (http://www.architecture2b.com/project/prestige)

http://www.architecture2b.com/uploads/project/orig_Prestige-Salvage_01_project.jpg

http://www.architecture2b.com/uploads/project/orig_Prestige-Salvage_02_project.jpg

^^ looks like the architects have been watching the Star Wars prequels a little too much lately... can't decide if i like this or not.

didn't i see these renders about 8 years ago :nuts:

2b are one of the best small architectural firms in Leeds - look at the quality of their other projects on their website.

Design & Access Statement looks good too - it's got a load more images (that 2nd render is a bit exaggerated)... I hope this goes ahead!

didn't i see these renders about 8 years ago :nuts:

You and me both :lol:

Surely these are not the buildings that have just recentley been approved ???

^ Look at the planning application - it's an extension of planning, not a redesign. They still look like that.

Hey guys, a long time lurker here, but never had anything constructive to post so never bothered to register!
I’m currently a final year student at Leeds University, and doing a Geography dissertation on HUV. In particular, I’m looking at the progress it has made in the terms of its original aims. This message is basically just me putting out some feelers, I’m going through all the official channels (councillors, developers, business owners etc) but figured somewhere like this may be more responsive!

As people ‘in the know’/live locally, what is your perception of the urban village? How successful do you think it has been in the redevelopment of central Leeds, its impacts on Holbeck and Beeston, generating jobs, improving the image of Leeds etc? Any comments would be really useful!

Finally, if anyone here is a resident, knows someone who is, or knows someone connected with the project and would be willing to answer a few questions by email, or have a chat (drinks are on me!) that would be fantastic!

Thanks for reading, and I’ll just go back to hiding in the corner :P

Hey guys, a long time lurker here, but never had anything constructive to post so never bothered to register!
I’m currently a final year student at Leeds University, and doing a Geography dissertation on HUV. In particular, I’m looking at the progress it has made in the terms of its original aims. This message is basically just me putting out some feelers, I’m going through all the official channels (councillors, developers, business owners etc) but figured somewhere like this may be more responsive!

As people ‘in the know’/live locally, what is your perception of the urban village? How successful do you think it has been in the redevelopment of central Leeds, its impacts on Holbeck and Beeston, generating jobs, improving the image of Leeds etc? Any comments would be really useful!

Finally, if anyone here is a resident, knows someone who is, or knows someone connected with the project and would be willing to answer a few questions by email, or have a chat (drinks are on me!) that would be fantastic!

Thanks for reading, and I’ll just go back to hiding in the corner :P

Welcome to the bear pit!

You will obviously know that Yorkshire Forward was the prime mover behind the HUV concept so that would be a good starting point for discussing the project, its aims and achievements. Since the abolition of the regional development agencies, their property holdings and the staff working on them have transferred to the Home and Communities Agency.

My guess is that HCA would be the best place for you to go to get the inside info. They have offices on the corner of Sweet Street and I'm sure their website will have some information or contact details.

Hey guys, a long time lurker here, but never had anything constructive to post so never bothered to register!
I’m currently a final year student at Leeds University, and doing a Geography dissertation on HUV. In particular, I’m looking at the progress it has made in the terms of its original aims. This message is basically just me putting out some feelers, I’m going through all the official channels (councillors, developers, business owners etc) but figured somewhere like this may be more responsive!

As people ‘in the know’/live locally, what is your perception of the urban village? How successful do you think it has been in the redevelopment of central Leeds, its impacts on Holbeck and Beeston, generating jobs, improving the image of Leeds etc? Any comments would be really useful!

Finally, if anyone here is a resident, knows someone who is, or knows someone connected with the project and would be willing to answer a few questions by email, or have a chat (drinks are on me!) that would be fantastic!

Thanks for reading, and I’ll just go back to hiding in the corner :P

Don't know if I'd call myself a local- I too am a student- but anyway..

On those particular points, I'm not sure I have too muh to say, but it has certainly been good for the city's creative industries. The Round Foundry and Marshall's Mill have allowed a creative quarter to start to emerge, but it needs major investment to seal this. It's good, but it's not Leeds' Media City; this is what it should be though.

It needs more investment. Now the government has abolished Yorkshire Forward, it has put HUVs future in jeopard. Now who will drive it forward? It's not included in the much-touted enterprise zone.

It's facilitated the creation of jobs, but it hasn't regenerated the area away from the Round Foundry. The streets are still unpleasant to walk around, especially after 17:00, and there's still a lot of dereliction.

For a locals view why not try getting in touch with Phil Kirby who is a local blogger from Beeston. Here is one of his blogs:
Beer and Loafing in LS11
When the going gets weird, the weird move to Beeston (http://www.philkirby.net/)

Also check out his comments on opening up the Holbeck viaduct.
Holbeck Viaduct or ‘What happened to our skywalk?’ (http://theculturevulture.co.uk/blog/headline/holbeck-viaduct-or-what-happened-to-our-skywalk/)

I think you will get a very different view than the sanitised, corporate stock answers HCA or the council will give.

Thanks for your messages, have looked into your suggestions, and made a note of your comments!

And another extension to outline planning is passed. Once that debt can can't be kicked any further, people begin defaulting and land prices finally fall then hopefully Leeds will finally see some of these corking projects come to life.

10/02672/EXT | Extension of Time of planning approval 20/380/04/OT (Outline application to erect mixed use development with hotel residential a1/a2/a3/a4/d1 retail leisure & business units) | Water Lane, Bath Road, Union Place And Marshall Street Holbeck Leeds LS11

Public Access (https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=L3UB8AJB0FZ00)

I think you'll be disappointed if you expect these 'corking' projects to go ahead in their approved form.

Many of them are as overblown as the land values assigned to them on the balance sheet. Once they go pop then the schemes are likely to be redesigned to something more viable and sustainable. We need to blow the froth of the boom and having sites actually coming forward, rather than being stuck with 'pie in the sky' planning applications/extensions that will never see the light of day, is all part of this.

I think you'll be disappointed if you expect these 'corking' projects to go ahead in their approved form.

Many of them are as overblown as the land values assigned to them on the balance sheet. Once they go pop then the schemes are likely to be redesigned to something more viable and sustainable. We need to blow the froth of the boom and having sites actually coming forward, rather than being stuck with 'pie in the sky' planning applications/extensions that will never see the light of day, is all part of this.

Agree to an extent. We'll never see a Lumiere, Cropper or Kite but low density schemes such as the one I posted will be viable in their current form once things go pop. The HUV planning guidance came in for a lot of criticism by developers as it was too prescriptive. However, a number of developers still put in outline applications which are similar to the above. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Agree about the trophy tower projects you mention and you are quite right, it's the lower density schemes that will be more viable and hopefully come forward on these sites in future.

Nice article in Culture Vultures plus behind the seen photos of the Tower works development.

http://theculturevulture.co.uk/blog/people-and-places/behind-the-scenes-tower-works/

Magnificent seven in Tower Works move
(http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/300340-magnificent-seven-in-tower-works-move.html?news_section=7)23rd March 2012

Ian Briggs - Editor, Yorkshire

TOWER Works, the historic landmark that is being transformed into modern office space, is welcoming its first tenants.

The development has become 50% let after seven new tenants agreed to move in when the 18,000 sq ft development officially opens in May.

Tenants will include commercial photographer Tracey Welch and Brightbox, a cloud technology service which is relocating its 10-strong staff from Leeds Media Centre.

Other new tenants include Re-Form Landscape, a specialist in landscape architecture and urban design, alongside branding and packaging designers Robot Food, which is relocating from Harrogate to take up two offices.

Tower Works, which is located between Holbeck Urban Village and Granary Wharf in Leeds and offers space for companies with one to 30 people, also will be home to NW Architects, a four-strong team which specialises in retail, energy from waste recycling plants, housing and student accommodation.

Two companies are expanding from the Round Foundry Media Centre into spaces at Tower Works: IT support company Olympic Support and technology events company Hodgetastic, the brainchild of entrepreneur Dom Hodgson who has launched ClicknMix, a new online confectionary retailer last year.

Tower Works will be home to Mr Hodgson's first physical sweet shop as well as the entrepreneur’s third online company, advertising business EmberAds.

Paul Taylor, of managing and letting agent on the scheme, Creative Space Management, said: “The response so far has exceeded our expectations in some tough market conditions and we’re pleased that so many tenants will be moving into the development as soon as it opens in May.

"We predicted a strong demand for accommodation from companies that have outgrown their offices and who require flexible, attractive facilities and Tower Works offers this, but encased in a building full of historic charm."

The Arch to the Tower Works site is open and landscaping works going on behind.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2ir0w3m.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/1zdg28.jpg

They have removed a section of the Globe Road frontage and repalced it with this bl**dy awful gate - I know they need some access but it has spoilt the frontage a little.

http://i40.tinypic.com/35aop75.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/fcirz7.jpg

At the back of Tower Works they have removed a section of the back perimeter wall which will give access right through the site and you can see the landscaping works.

http://i40.tinypic.com/4ru9vr.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/34nimc8.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/aucdw5.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/27xbte.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/i586zn.jpg

Looks good, and with lettings doing well, it should hopefully mean future phases are not too far off.

I agree about the gate though.

As ever, great photos there Tigerman :cheers:

It's particularly encouraging to see the demolition of some of the canal side perimeter wall. I wonder if there's any chance of some food/drink establishment being allowed to open a temporary summer venue there. It would make a fantastic addition to the Granary Wharf leisure offer.

Perhaps Leeds Loves Food should move down there from Millennium Square.

Yeah good pics, like the roof on the new bit. I know this in going to be done in stages and possibly take a long time, anyone know if a new canal part is still part of the masterplan as in earlier proposals?

Anyone know when HUV is supposed to be 'finished'?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7234730322_8e12d59458_c.jpg

Went for a walk along the canal earlier... The light timber balcony is magic, I thought this was copper until I started zooming in:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5342/7234948262_167889e468_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7234717434_4b1a3e5323_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/7234736462_5ae88471a4_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/7234744210_11c5e78fe0_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7234709104_968b021fb6_c.jpg

^^

Its really coming a long nicely down there.

Looks great with it now opening up to the waterfront! Can see this being a real destination when the suns out!

Bagsy the picnic spot under that tree!

Looks great. Just hope the remaining phases are built soon to allow this area to reach its full potential.

It's already looking like a massive improvement though, and should really help the area to come alive- particularly after LSSE is delivered.