Thank you! You know who! :)

H/OUT/62572 - Outline application for mixed use development between six and
twenty-two storeys in height comprising 388 residential units, 8230 m sq
hotel use, 15,369 m sq B1 office use, 1491 m sq D2 leisure use, 876 m sq
A1/A2/A3 retail use, 820 m sq community use, 561 underground car parking
spaces. Consent sought for siting and means of access, all other matters
reserved.

Submitted 07/07/05

Next to the old warehouse! This is not the previous tower proposed for this site! This is new!

Plus!

Reference: 05/50478/ART10
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: Peel Holdings Ltd
Ward:
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Simon Plowman
Telephone: 0161 793 3766
Location: Pomona Docks Pomona Strand Off Bridgewater Way Old Trafford (Article 10)
Proposal: Article 10 Consultation recieved from Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council in respect of a planning application for the erection of a residential development comprising 5 linked blocks (varying from 8 to 16 storeys height) to provide 546 apartments with ancillary car parking, landscaping and amenity areas

Discussion are taking place between Trafford and Peel, with progress being made!(at last, Some movment on this scheme)

Both applications and plans are available at Trafford Planning Office!

Good news.

Hope the tower is decent. IMO it's one of the stranger places in SQ to plonk a tower down. They need to sort out that area around Bridgewater Way/Trafford Road, currently it is very crap for pedestrians.

Good news :) It would be good to see the immediate area around Old Trafford revitalised.

Good one. Thanks again jrb.

i never think to check the trafford applications, good man jrb

who is the architect?

Don't know yet Gothic!

Will find out tomorrow or Wednesday!

Sounds great, cant put me finger on where this actually is though, Is it next to the warehouse with the mural on it? if so it would be very near the proposed Modus Tower

Yep Highriser!

Thats the one!

I wouldn't call Modus 'proposed'. At present it is nothing more than a vision.

Always remember to take a spare camera battery with you! You never know when you'll need it! :wink2:

Very nice! :drool:

Oh god, please tell me that you did take a spare battery.......!!

Yep Accura! :colgate:

Its a very nice design for a midrise!

Images and info will be uploaded as soon as possible!

Thank you once again jrb :)

cheers jrb, your a star :)

Some pics and info on the Victoria Warehouse development, Trafford Park, close to Old Trafford Football Ground! :)

Sorry about the quality on some of the pics!

Info!

21 storey office tower occupying eastern end of the development over looking Trafford Bar interchange, 12 storey hotel beside offices, 211 guest rooms, 271 private apartments, 117 affordable apartments with public realm and open spaces occupying the western half of development, 15.369 sq m office, 8.230 sq m hotel, 1.492 sq m leisure, 876 sq m retail, 820 sq.m community use, 561 car park spaces, total floor space 49.124 sq m!

Architects! Moss architects & associates! Think this is them? http://www.moss-architecture.com/loading.swf
DMD Urban are also involved! http://www.dmdurban.ie/

Aerial shot of development site!(note the closeness to Old Trafford)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/sdkiry.jpg

Road access around development!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture131.jpg

Drawing of development(offices, hotel, apartments)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture129.jpg

Apartments!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture122.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture124.jpg

Hotel!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture125.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/ertyrs.jpg

Offices!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture127.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture126.jpg

That last one is stunning :applause: It looks quite similar to the city park gate scheme in Birmingham.

wow... that looks like a big and quality development. Should become a pretty vibrant area during matchdays.

Just noticed!

Plans for another 5* hotel! That would take us to seven 5* Hotels in Manchester! (Lowry, Radisson Free Trade Hall, Beetham, Eastgate, Granada Boutique, Victoria Warehouse and the Midland!(even though its classed as a 4* superior)

Looks great,there so much planned now for that area,:)

was there any info on modus?

was there any info on modus?
If I remember rightly, Modus was submitted for Outline Planning Permission before Modus decided to put the project on hold. There may have been something, but I dont think it would have given any indication on whether or not the project was back on track.
Worth a try though I s'pose.

I really like the office part of this,looks very unique and modern , bring it on ,what height do ya rekon 90m ?

Red X's!! Red X's!!!! :'(

Whats happended to the renderings?

Why have they been taken off?

Nothing to do with me!

fuck knows where they have gone (oh well i saw em :) )

Your imagehost is probably temporarily down. Nowt to worry about.

Just checked it!

Yep! Its down! :cry:

Dont worry. Happens all the time ;)

Well I have go bed now (no I'm not eight), May try and check tomorrow before I go to work, but at 5am I don't know my own name so, not likely be thinking of checkin for renderings.. I'm sure I'll see em eventually..

God bless you anyway, JRB.. For some reason these boards have been dead since that hacker attacked em, why is no one posting? Where is the daily barrage of photographic delights of skylines, CJC etc etc...I'm miss it all :(

We're all waiting for the old threads to uploaded again.

Just noticed!

Plans for another 5* hotel! That would take us to seven 5* Hotels in Manchester! (Lowry, Radisson Free Trade Hall, Beetham, Eastgate, Granada Boutique, Victoria Warehouse and the Midland!(even though its classed as a 4* superior)
Not sure where a couple of those are. Are either of them the new Great John Street Hotel? If not then it's 8. :)

Modus should eventually go ahead. I was told by them it was put on hold but considering their activity recently (specifically in Wigan and Liverpool(I think)), it shouldn't be long until they make a move with it. They've sold some significant parts of their portfolio and made a fair bit of money. Rumours were abound a few months back that like Ask!, they're building up a "war chest", if you will, to further their own work and start on some really prestigious ting and ting y'nar.

Interesting, thanks for those images jrb. Who are the developers? Are they remotely serious?

What do we know about Moss Architecture anyone?

Finally get to see the images, nice stuff.. should give a nice backdrop to the stadium

Wow, truly massive development there. Thanks alot for your detective work JRB, much appreciated. Any idea if the old warehouses are being incorporated into the scheme or are they being demolished?

this is gonna look bloody tasty just there, I know exactly where that is, its right near where I used to work, should be great.

and how tall will they be?

Interesting, thanks for those images jrb. Who are the developers? Are they remotely serious?

Sleepyone!

TDG imited!(think thy own the warehouse?) and Panamint properties? Lots of Irish/Dublin influence on this development!

Any idea if the old warehouses are being incorporated into the scheme or are they being demolished?q

Caw!

From the aerial image below and the drawing of the development, looks like its going! There'll have to save the mural though!

Note the canal and OT in the back ground!

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/ic9/71.jpg

Forgot to post this picture yesterday! No warehouse!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture1358.jpg

Compare!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture129.jpg

Aerial shot includes wharehouse! Which is missing after development!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/sdkiry.jpg

It only make sense really, why should the most famous club and ground be surrounded by industrial warehouses? It should be a place to enjoy the location and such.. I think this will benefit the area tremendously (presuming its going to be approved??) and hopefully kick start similiar scale developments..

Has anyone else noticed the hotel shapes similarity to Furness House across the water?
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/001ewm/lg/SalQuaysFurnessHse02.jpg

Oh fuck off, they better keep the warehouses. Anybody who denies the enjoyment of passing by the mural emblazoned warehouse or the one hosting the chain link sculpture is a cad and deserves eunich-isation immediately whilst listening to Slayer's Dave Lombardo destroying la batterias.

Eunich-isation or castration. You decide, for this drug addled brain.

It would be a great pity if the mural were dispensed with. It is a familiar and welcome landmark.

Just one thing I've noticed though -- if they were planning to demolish the mural, why does that prospectus thing have a picture of it with the caption "Landmark mural overlooking Trafford interchange" (last pic on jrb's last post)? Does it mention anywhere in that brochure what they're planning to do with it, jrb?

I hope the big chain thing doesnt go.

The big chains are across the road from this site, they are on either side of the Modus site. I cycled right alongside the Victoria Warehouses last week. There's still old railway tracks in the ground around it. Real piece of history. I will be sad to see it go. Remember going past that mural and a pre pubescent OT when I was a wee nipper.

Go on Trafford. Live upto your nimby reputation. Refuse this and make them encorporate the warehouses. And place the office tower somewhere else.

I hope the big chain thing doesnt go.


They can't get rid of them, surely?

We should all prostest, just in case.

Came across this just now!

If nothing else, it proves this development is a serious one!

May have got the architects wrong though?

Have a butchers!

VICTORIA GATEWAY

Winning design of an internationally invited competition to design a premier mixed-use development within the Trafford Park area of Manchester.

Facilities include a residential tower, five star hotel, casino, offices, restaurants, retail and basement parking.

Rendering of Victoria Gateway scheme!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/mklroyt.jpg

Victoria Gateway tower!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/pqite.jpg

Now that would have been nice! :) How many storeys? A bit like the Portsmouth tower!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/akioteyd.jpg

Check out the industrail link aswell! Trafford Park!

http://www.sbsarch.co.uk/

Good find.

Remember this one too?
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2175VictoriaGateway_pic1.jpg

Yeah now about this mural, to be honest I only ever saw it as something to disguise a rather ugly warehouse. As nice as the mural may be, these warehouses coming down are long over due. I used to work just round the corner from this site up until January, and I could see the potential of the place everyday as I went to and from work on my bike, I used to pass this site and would always wish something would be done with it. I won't really miss the mural.

Victoria Warehouse

Reference: 05/51180/ART10
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: Panamint And TDG Ltd
Ward:
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Nancy Thynne
Telephone: 0161 793 2750
Location: Victoria Warehouse Trafford Park Road Trafford Trafford Article 10
Proposal: Article 10 Consultation received from Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council in respect of a planning application for the erection of a mixed use development comprising 388 residential units, hotel use, office use, D2 leisure use, A1/A2/A3 retail use, community use together with 561 underground car spaces

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/pl...lanninglist.htm

These are responsible for this planning app. But check out this link to some development near Viccy Station called "CHapelton".

http://www.dmdurban.ie/chapelton.html

^I hope that doesnt get built. It looks like a bog standard business park. That site is too good for that.

These are responsible for this planning app. But check out this link to some development near Viccy Station called "CHapelton".

http://www.dmdurban.ie/chapelton.html

Smart developers these, can't even get the bloody station name right, thats the land to the south of Piccadilly in the pictures

Yeah, the Mancunian Way bit really threw me off. Common sense would've normally been applied, but as per usual, my senses were in the bottom of a pint pot.

Take form the MEN!

There a bit late as usual and they've got the development in Salford, instead of Trafford!

God rendering of the development though!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/jikolpre.jpg

Walked through salford Quays, up around OT and into town the other day.

It wouldn't take many more devlepments like this, maybe a few on Pomona, to start the city centre expanding out big time to the south.

The gap between Castlefield, Pomona, Salford Quays, white city retail park and OT is getting very very small.

Erm, I'm really not in favour of this development. The warehouse really should be preserved in my eyes.

The warehouse is serving no function, its about time it came down, its not even a nice looking building.

I agree Metrolink, won't be long now til City Centre and the Quays are seemlessly linked, which expands town in a massive way to the south like you say, it was only a matter of time ..for it makes sense.

Should the warehouse or the artwork be saved?

I personally think the warehouse should be preserved.
I guess the mural could be moved to somewhere else on the quays if its carefully removed from the rest of the building.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't want sentimental paint to stand in the way of a real deal future. So if that mural has gotta go, it's gotta go.

I agree ,what's so speical about this warehouse? fuck all apart from that mural its time for it to go.

If there should be any shouting about preseving a mural,it should be for the Roman army one in Castlefield the paint is peeling off it and its looking very worn.
This should be repainted asap

Murals. Pah. One up from graffiti.