some new pics from awimb.com:

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/ag018.jpg

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/ag020.jpg

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/ag010.jpg

Just 13 months to go and she's looking good.

she's looking damn good :drool:

I love how you can see this stadium looming over holloway road....its very impressive.

She looks cracking, but is there any scope for expansion?

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09062005_1x.jpg

She looks cracking, but is there any scope for expansion?

got to say it dosnt look like they would be able to do any expansion without taking the roof off and building a new one. Seems a bit stupid to build a stadium with no room for expansion, especially when they are replacing a ground with that exact problem.

got to say it dosnt look like they would be able to do any expansion without taking the roof off and building a new one. Seems a bit stupid to build a stadium with no room for expansion, especially when they are replacing a ground with that exact problem.

pure speculation here but i'm guessing they might be able to fill the corners in where the upper tier slopes away from the roof...

Definately no room for expansion. Not enough space around the outside of the stadium for that. The shear size of the roof structure would make it unviable to remove the roof, expand the upper tier, put a new roof on. See just not on, anyway if they ever need to expand they could just buy out Wembley.;)

Why are people saying this looks good? It's as cheap as you can get. It looks like any of half a dozen of the new edenti-kit stadia going up around the country right now. A tragedy in urban design.

Why are people saying this looks good? It's as cheap as you can get. It looks like any of half a dozen of the new edenti-kit stadia going up around the country right now. A tragedy in urban design.
its a huge improvement on highbury no doubt.

its a huge improvement on highbury no doubt.
Yes, but that's like saying a pig farm is better than a palace just because you're used to living near a sewage works!

What are you on about EB...I wish over a dozen other stadiums like this were going around the country....but I cant think of one other stadium in the UK that looks like this...

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4117/emiratesstadium1yk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What are you on about EB...I wish over a dozen other stadiums like this were going around the country....but I cant think of one other stadium in the UK that looks like this...
Sorry but Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool (and a couple of other clubs too) are all at varying stages of development for new stadia, all of which look remarkably similar. This design is overused now, and it looks cheap either way. It's similar to Stansted in that it looks like someone simply took a supermarket and modified it to fit it's new use. Shockingly bad for a club the size of Arsenal.

Sorry but Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool (and a couple of other clubs too) are all at varying stages of development for new stadia, all of which look remarkably similar.
Which Chelsea development are you talking about? Got any pictures? And who are these other English or British clubs that you mention as currently building remarkably similiar stadia?

Which Chelsea development are you talking about? Got any pictures? And who are these other English or British clubs that you mention as currently building remarkably similiar stadia?
One of the two other teams was Everton, though they may now end up ground-sharing with Liverpool. As for the Chelsea development, unfortunately I don't have any pictures. If I did I would have posted them in here as I've not seen any renders of the development in here yet.

One of the two other teams was Everton, though they may now end up ground-sharing with Liverpool. As for the Chelsea development, unfortunately I don't have any pictures. If I did I would have posted them in here as I've not seen any renders of the development in here yet.
Where did you see the Chelsea design? Are there any pictures of the "remarkably similiar" Everton design on the internet?

Where did you see the Chelsea design? Are there any pictures of the "remarkably similiar" Everton design on the internet?
There are indeed pictures of the Everton design on the net, just as there are pictures of the new Anfield.

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09062005_1x.jpg

I wonder if the guys living in the flats in the bottom left of the picture will have liittle glimpse of the field........from the roof maybe?
I like the stadium but I think Arsenal could have pushed for a few more thousand....something a little more distinctive too.I felt the same during the European Championships too....some impressive stadia in Portugal but again following the same line.

There are indeed pictures of the Everton design on the net, just as there are pictures of the new Anfield.
I found these two renderings. Neither of them look remarkably similiar to The Emirates Stadium to me. Either way its a pretty irrelevent comparison as these proposals were scrapped a long time ago as Everton were unable to finance them.
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/may2003/5/8/000E7F63-B428-1EC8-AF4C80BFB6FA0000.jpg

http://www.toffeeweb.com/images/club/kings-dock/artist_imp2a.jpg

@ Earlybird2. Where did you see the new Chelsea plans that you mention? Is there a description of these plans anywhere on the internet? If so could you tell us where so we can compare them to The Emirates stadium? Cheers.

Mind you,it looks huge compared to the old stadium in the background.

Sorry but Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool (and a couple of other clubs too) are all at varying stages of development for new stadia, all of which look remarkably similar. This design is overused now, and it looks cheap either way. It's similar to Stansted in that it looks like someone simply took a supermarket and modified it to fit it's new use. Shockingly bad for a club the size of Arsenal.


Not heard anything of Chelsea's new plans. Arsenals new ground is identical to Da Luz, though. I guess is is a tad similar to Liverpool's, which ironically is very close to the other Lisbon stadium in looks, but without the corners.

Yes, the Arsenal ground won't win points for originality, but it will be a good stadium.

Oh yes, another stadium that has similar lines is the Reebok(also Huddersfields) but they different designs.

Why are people saying this looks good? It's as cheap as you can get. It looks like any of half a dozen of the new edenti-kit stadia going up around the country right now. A tragedy in urban design.

It may have a lot in common with other designs around the country but one thing that it is definately not is cheap. Have you seen this stadium in the flesh it looks huge. And huge when it comes to stadiums is not cheap. I pass by the construction almost weekly and it is a very impressive structure.

you wonder would earlynerd think the that the stadium was a tragedy of urban design if it was being built in manchester!!!

from Wikipedia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Emirates_Stadium_09.jpg

certainly not in the same mould as the 'cookie-cutter' stadia of middlesboro, derby, sunderland, coventry, etc etc. Now they are identikit stadia - I can picture there's this goods yard somewhere that has bits of stadium stacked up ready to ship out for the next one. This by comparison is rather impressive.

yeah it certainly doesnt look cheap, but i agree that isnt exactly original and unique, then again Wembley doesnt look unique apart from the arch. Just a sign of how football is now a business. Tasteful and dam good design just no flair

I was gonna say flair can be unnecessarily expensive but then Wembley isnt exactly cheap...

I would rather our teams go for designs that work rather than try to be daring and find they dont work out that well. Save the 'look at me' architecture for China and our olympics :)

The photograph gives you a good idea of the scale of the stadium but it should be remembered that there is still a years worth of construction to go, so the exterior is still far from finished.
I agree with much thats been said. Its not the most daring design you will ever see but the end result is likely to be an impressive, classy stadium. Certainly not cheap looking.

so how tall is it going to be?

41.9 meters from pitch level to the top of the roof.

It topped out recently.

Yes it topped out on the 15th I believe. Anyone on these boards that comes into town should make a small detour and go and see the thing for themselves. I am pretty sure that they will be suprised that at 42 metres it is equivelent to a 15 storey block of flats and quite impressive.

yeah ill add it to my site in a few mins. have gone past it on the train several times and its pretty damn big

New photos for August:

http://www.arsenal.com/emiratesstadium/article.asp?article=301322&Title=Emirates+Stadium+-+latest+pictures&lid=the+stadium+-+Latest+News

It also mentions that the gap between the stands and the roof will be 'glazed' with polycarbonate.

It looks like they will be able to start installing the seats pretty soon.

Why are people saying this looks good? It's as cheap as you can get. It looks like any of half a dozen of the new edenti-kit stadia going up around the country right now. A tragedy in urban design.

Wouldn't be saying that if it was in manchester would you;)

http://www.bluekipper.com/assets/images/kingsdock/stad_kings.jpg

Everton's Kings Dock proposal. Also not an 'identikit' stadium.

Well if all stadiums look like Da Luz or Emirates i wouldn't care that much. Sparks has posted an exellent aerial of Ashburton Grove on the world Forums - i feel it wouldn't be right for me to post it here and pretend i found it ;).

I was thinking about identikit stadia, things like the fact that all these stadia want to be able to hold big neutral venue games like cup semi's and european finals so they have to be symetrical which takes alot of the uniqueness out of them. Once they reach these kinds of sizes, you need to fill in corners to get the large capacity.

I tried to imagine a ground for my team, LEEDS if they started from scratch and didnt make a McBowl, ended up drawing it and tbh it wasnt very interesting, two three tier sides, a very deep single tier kop and a two tier other end. Only good thing about it would be I would make all the kop seats germany style, the ones that let you stand or sit.
To be interesting a stadium needs a gimmik, like a closing roof or a landmark attached to it, but these cost loads of money which the clubs are unwilling to spend when they have to fund grounds themselves

emirates stadium is not a typical english stadium;is a typical spanish stadium.

No its a typical HOK stadium.

Its coming on well, most of the glass is fitted.

please, post it here (aerial pic), I'm not venturing into the world forums because I get drawn into all the petty arguments. Or at least post the link here ;)

God, those world forums. I think they should ban internet use in primary schools! :)

please, post it here (aerial pic), I'm not venturing into the world forums because I get drawn into all the petty arguments. Or at least post the link here ;)

Sorry no can do at the moment, as Sparks has exceeded the bandwith usage on his image host :(

This is a great photo. More new ones at arsenal.com

http://tinypic.com/dm4k9d.jpg

As far as Chelsea are concerned, I think Abramovich plans to expand the Shed End and demolish Ken Bates' Chelsea Village. They will also add another tier to the Matthew Harding Stand. This will increase the capacity to 55,000, but I don't know of any plans for a new ground. Mind you, I don't know what they will do with the away fans. They've just moved them to the Shed Lower. Concerning the Emirates Stadium, though, maybe it isn't very original in design, but it is very spectacular, and a great addition to North London. I'm just rather annoyed that they had very little trouble getting permission, when we are still waiting for John Prescott to make a decision on ours (Brighton and Hove Albion).

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_06x.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_07x.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_08x.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_10x.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_11x.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_14x.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_16x.jpg

Wow this is so much nearer to completion than Wembley and its handover date is later!

These were taken about 2 weeks ago:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/supertek/DSC00531.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/supertek/DSC00530.jpg

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http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/supertek/DSC00525.jpg

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http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/supertek/DSC00523.jpg

The properties that form a large part of the finance for this project seem to be selling well especially at Highbury.

Follow the link at the bottom for some new images.



From Arsenal.com



Hundreds queue for Highbury homes

Hundreds of Arsenal fans queued for hours to buy a home at their beloved Highbury, as apartments at the residential conversion of the famous stadium, home to the Gunners since 1913, went on sale at the weekend.

In what is believed to be the world’s first sporting stadium to be transformed into apartments, demand for the 711 apartments, comprising of studios, one-, two- and three-bedrooms and penthouses, resulted in someone arriving at 1am to secure their place at the front of the queue!

Arsenal Managing Director, Keith Edelman, enthused: “We are pleasantly surprised with the response we received over the weekend to what is an outstanding residential development. This is an exceptional opportunity for supporters and we were very excited to see such a fantastic turn out at the sales launch over the weekend. Sales are progressing well so anyone interested in purchasing an apartment should get in contact as soon as possible to avoid disappointment.”

Highbury’s Grade II-listed East Stand and opposing West Stand will be converted into high-spec apartments, many overlooking the pitch, which has seen so many glorious football moments over the last 93 years. The goalposts will be removed and the pitch will become a garden of nearly two acres. The North and South Stands will be replaced by new-build apartments designed to harmonise with the East and West Stands.

The luxury of the development continues with an underground swimming pool and fitness centre under the pitch. There will also be a 24-hour concierge service and spaces to park cars and bicycles.

Perhaps best of all, The Stadium will be a walk away from Arsenal’s new home, Emirates Stadium, where the world’s top sides will play from August 2006.

For more information visit www.thestadium-highbury.com.

I have been reading a lot of messages between earlybird and several others. I am not entirely sure where earlybirds, loyalties lie with 'I LOVE MANCHESTER' sloganed across his pages, but I have to confess that EB talks a load of b*ll*cks. Therefore I'd like to try and set the record straight, as well as other queires that have been posted on the subject:

1. Capacity. I am sure now Arsenal wished they could have pushed for a higher capacity, though this would push the costs even higher. Liverpool chose to scale-down their initial 70k to 60k because of higher construction and engineering implications as well as the rising market price of steel. You only have to look at Wembley's wopping £750M pricetag. Also, it is harder to obtain planning permission for a structure which will have a direct impact on the surrounding environment such as residentual, and public transport (remember, because of limited road access, more than 60-70% of fans are expected to travel to Arsenal by public transport). An extra 10k or more fans would put more strain on the resources available. It is also why Arsenal are spending a substantial amount of money regenerating the area as well as their own stadium. All part and parcel to win favour of the authorities. 60,000 is probably the highest they could get realistically, as well as what they could afford. Which also brings me to..

2. Cost. At £357 million thereabouts, this must be the single biggest financial undertaking by any football club in history. Design, capacity, urban regeneration were all contributing factors to this. Don't expect the club to overspend an already delicate project with added complications such as design capacity etc.

3. Design. Yes it does bear tremendous resemblence to the Estadio da Luz in Lisbon, also designed by HOK sport for Euro 2004, the same architects behind Emirated Stadium. I happen to be a big fan of Rod Sheard, the architect by the way. The design is a classical 'bowl' shape, which is beautiful and asthetically pleasing (in spite of what EB may think) the same stadia have been designed like this for several millenia, since the greek amphitheatre or the Roman Colliseum. I don't think it looks anything like Stanstead Airport or a cheap supermarket (don't happen to shop at Asda do you EB?). Okay granted, the design restricts any potential expansion, but do you really want something that will end up looking like some 'grotesque carbuncle' such as Old Trafford which is all top-heavy in odd places? Also 60,000 is sufficient, we are not quite FC Barcelona and never will be.

4. Everton and Chelsea are not presently building new stadia. Everton do not have finances and are still pondering a groundshare if they can get over loyalties. As for Chelsea, Abramovich may have the resources to buy-out wembley 5 times over (or indeed London, if Peter Kenyon got his way), but there are no actual published plans for a new stadium. He would be stuck to find the land available in the Chelsea area since Stamford Bridge is too small, backing onto two railway/tube lines, a cemetary and busy street. Not unless he made an audacious bid to buy Battersea power station and build there, as there isn't anywhere else near enough with the space. But this is a listed building.

5. The only other new stadium plans I can think of on this scale are Liverpool's new anfield and Portsmouth's Fratton Park (which is in fact a complete rebuild of their existing ground rather than relocation). Liverpool still has sticking points with the NWDA for a grant, because they don't want to pay for it all themselves. In spite of winning the champions League and netting over £20m. This isn't due to open until 2007. Maybe there could be future projects on the horizon, the FA's decision to bid for the 2018 World Cup could prompt other clubs to follow suit and by then, many present grounds would be rendered obsolete.

I rest my case

I have been reading a lot of messages between earlybird and several others. I am not entirely sure where earlybirds, loyalties lie with 'I LOVE MANCHESTER' sloganed across his pages, but I have to confess that EB talks a load of b*ll*cks. Therefore I'd like to try and set the record straight, as well as other queires that have been posted on the subject:

1. Capacity. I am sure now Arsenal wished they could have pushed for a higher capacity, though this would push the costs even higher. Liverpool chose to scale-down their initial 70k to 60k because of higher construction and engineering implications as well as the rising market price of steel. You only have to look at Wembley's wopping £750M pricetag. Also, it is harder to obtain planning permission for a structure which will have a direct impact on the surrounding environment such as residentual, and public transport (remember, because of limited road access, more than 60-70% of fans are expected to travel to Arsenal by public transport). An extra 10k or more fans would put more strain on the resources available. It is also why Arsenal are spending a substantial amount of money regenerating the area as well as their own stadium. All part and parcel to win favour of the authorities. 60,000 is probably the highest they could get realistically, as well as what they could afford. Which also brings me to..

2. Cost. At £357 million thereabouts, this must be the single biggest financial undertaking by any football club in history. Design, capacity, urban regeneration were all contributing factors to this. Don't expect the club to overspend an already delicate project with added complications such as design capacity etc.

3. Design. Yes it does bear tremendous resemblence to the Estadio da Luz in Lisbon, also designed by HOK sport for Euro 2004, the same architects behind Emirated Stadium. I happen to be a big fan of Rod Sheard, the architect by the way. The design is a classical 'bowl' shape, which is beautiful and asthetically pleasing (in spite of what EB may think) the same stadia have been designed like this for several millenia, since the greek amphitheatre or the Roman Colliseum. I don't think it looks anything like Stanstead Airport or a cheap supermarket (don't happen to shop at Asda do you EB?). Okay granted, the design restricts any potential expansion, but do you really want something that will end up looking like some 'grotesque carbuncle' such as Old Trafford which is all top-heavy in odd places? Also 60,000 is sufficient, we are not quite FC Barcelona and never will be.

4. Everton and Chelsea are not presently building new stadia. Everton do not have finances and are still pondering a groundshare if they can get over loyalties. As for Chelsea, Abramovich may have the resources to buy-out wembley 5 times over (or indeed London, if Peter Kenyon got his way), but there are no actual published plans for a new stadium. He would be stuck to find the land available in the Chelsea area since Stamford Bridge is too small, backing onto two railway/tube lines, a cemetary and busy street. Not unless he made an audacious bid to buy Battersea power station and build there, as there isn't anywhere else near enough with the space. But this is a listed building.

5. The only other new stadium plans I can think of on this scale are Liverpool's new anfield and Portsmouth's Fratton Park (which is in fact a complete rebuild of their existing ground rather than relocation). Liverpool still has sticking points with the NWDA for a grant, because they don't want to pay for it all themselves. In spite of winning the champions League and netting over £20m. This isn't due to open until 2007. Maybe there could be future projects on the horizon, the FA's decision to bid for the 2018 World Cup could prompt other clubs to follow suit and by then, many present grounds would be rendered obsolete.

I rest my case
Well said and welcome to the fourm.
EB can go of on one sometimes and come out with more useless crap than you think of. No Offence EB.

I rest my case

Welcome and well written.

Some premiership clubs are finding it very difficult to fill their grounds at the moment, and therefore I think 60,000 is a big enough capacity for the top clubs in England, Man Utd being the exception.


"'grotesque carbuncle' such as Old Trafford"......

I've never looked it like that before, but now you mention it. :lol:

I rest my case.

Welcome informed and intelligent gooner...sorry gunner. What is your field as that was a hefty post to dip your toes into the water with.

I personally think it's a fantastic stadium... and at 60,000 no real need for expansion is there?


It reminds me of Benfica's stadium in Portugal, no?


http://www.stadionwelt.de/Stadionwelt-Stadien-Arenen/Stadionlisten/Portugal/Benfica/luft_01.jpg

http://www.in.gr/news/Reviews/Review534204/assets/Luz.jpg


vs

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/ag018.jpg



http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates09092005_07x.jpg

yep, and good picture comparisons, christos.

one thing that occurred to me watching the champions league the other night is that finally (i'm assuming) we'll be able to watch arsenal play at home from a decent camera height!

anyone have any idea if the club are having lettering or patterns in their seating like at benfica?

No Idea but I would Imagine Emirates will feature if they are.

One slight point to make about it looking similar to a few portugese stadiums, I remember first seeing rendering of this staduim 5 years ago so it maybe that the portugese followed this one. Most new stadiums these days are pretty similar withsomethign like Allianz ARENA for Bayern being the exception.

Most architects even the biggest names duplicate elements of what they have done before. I suppose it's safer from their perspective as most things are tried and trusted.

Hello Cabman

I am not an architect, but have tremendous interest and appreciation in the subject, particularly the architecture of stadia. It also helps being an Arsenal fan to be specifically dedicated to this project. I have been following this since original plans by Arsenal to either build at Kings Cross or buy Wembley back in 98.

I honestly think the present location couldn't have been any better.

Actually, Rod Sheard (architect at HOK & LOBB sport) has just brought out a book entitled: The Stadium, Architecture for a New Global Culture. I don't know if anyone has had a flick through at the bookshop? This features the Emirates', Wembley and Stadio da Luz amonst others.

Hok Sport are world leaders in stadium design and construction including Wembley, Stadium Australia and many NFL stadia in the US.

It's a good book, though wish it had also included other notable projects, such as Allianz Arena, Sapporo Dome or even the Braga Stadium. All 3 of which are very unique and original to stadium design and construction. Sorry this must sound dull...

Anybody got predictions for the Man Utd v Chlesea game tomorrow?

By the way EB, sorry if my previous comments may have been a bit strong.

Yes, but ours will be better

Tell you what, Chelsea will have a job expanding the Matthew Harding stand as this backs almost directly onto the District Line, I'd be surprised if they'd got the planning permission.

Stamford Bridge- another 'carbuncle', probably some of the worst sight-lines in the country according to self-confessed Chelsea fans. I think expanding it would be limited and a waste of time and money

November Pics


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Not much else interessting.

I dont think this stadium is ahead of Wembley.

I never thought I'd see this get to this stage.

The financial burden Arsenal have taken on is huge but it looks like it's going to pay off, a whopper of a stadium plus a pocketful of cash when the residential etc are sold/leased.

Does anyone know if Arsenal still plan to allocated up to 8,000 tickets to visiting teams?

Visiting fans???? We don't want smelly fans from other clubs visiting our shiney new pad. Can't you stay at home and watch the footy on the box?


Mauritius Gunner I would've prefered the Kings Cross option as that would've been very handy for the ctrl and may have attracted more of an international fan base.

No chance cabster, we're coming, stinky armpits and sweaty arses, you can't stop us.

went past this on the train yesterday (might head up on friday to see it properly), can anyone tell me what the hell else they are building because i saw plenty of other stuff next to it, 10-12 floors going up. what are they? part of the stadium development?

^^ Yeah, some small towers going up on the top patch of land, various odd shapes and the like.

49 games unbeaten- still stands!

I never thought I would be cheering on united before today, but it was worth it.
chelsea's run couldn't even finish 2nd and are still behind Cloughie's! That plus our champions league qualification, united and chelsea losing in europe caps the best week in a long long while.

Cabman, here what you are saying but you can't rip the heart away from the body(?) It's all Arsenal around Highbury and the club is the heart of the community. It still has brilliant rail links from almost anywhere in London- Silverlink, WAGN, even directly from the City from Moorgate via Drayton Park. Fans can get there from CTRL either from Kings Cross or Stratford.

I am not worried about losing out on potential international fans because this new stadium is going mega-enhance the profile of the club. Emirates Stadium will be famous the world over.

In response to Toadboy, I'd be surprised if they allocated as many as 8,000 tickets to away fans because there is already too much demand by home fans with over 20,000 on the season ticket waiting list. Plus where would they park all the coaches? I'd say more like half that number.

No chance cabster, we're coming, stinky armpits and sweaty arses, you can't stop us.

Well 'spose if your coming I hope they hose you down before they let you in and make you leave your shoes outside.

went past this on the train yesterday (might head up on friday to see it properly), can anyone tell me what the hell else they are building because i saw plenty of other stuff next to it, 10-12 floors going up. what are they? part of the stadium development?

Gothic- the high rise on the stadium side I think maybe social housing as I haven't seen any renders or sales info about it. The other building is the club hq/offices being built over the east side of the pedestrian bridge. If you do go round the stadium I'd suggest that you'd arrive at Holloway Rd Station and then you can look at the Lough Rd housing element of the site before you visit the stadium. This will give you a sense of the scale of this project.

In response to Toadboy, I'd be surprised if they allocated as many as 8,000 tickets to away fans because there is already too much demand by home fans with over 20,000 on the season ticket waiting list. Plus where would they park all the coaches? I'd say more like half that number.

That figure came from an interview with Dein, he also spoke about being able to offer cheaper tickets as well. Maybe he's not so convinced he'll be able to shift that many tickets everyweek at top whack, maybe it's a contingency?

The board at Arsenal certainly seem to know what they are doing. I wouldn't be suprised if they have a number of contingencies as they have already said they will be rescheduling the debt over a longer period. With attendances looking to have peaked in the premiership it is logical to assume that income will also peak or already have done so. I am sure that if that if revenues do not perform in line with expectations that there will be some provision for the club to remain solvent.

Yep- the buildings in the corner are for the Newlon Housing Trust, the building is called the Northern Triangle

Gothic- the high rise on the stadium side I think maybe social housing as I haven't seen any renders or sales info about it. The other building is the club hq/offices being built over the east side of the pedestrian bridge. If you do go round the stadium I'd suggest that you'd arrive at Holloway Rd Station and then you can look at the Lough Rd housing element of the site before you visit the stadium. This will give you a sense of the scale of this project.

no no, this is a big dev of good quality fairly expensive appartments with the now usual affordable components. I've seen several adds on property magazines. Can't remember where though...red buildings from what i recal

Yes Lough Rd (red bricks) are for sale I took some buyers there a few weeks ago. The ones I'm not sure about are between the stadium and the railway that gothic mentioned.

Tell you what, I don't know what this Rick Parry business in america is all about, it seems that Liverpool FC have an affinity to pay for anything themselves. They are struggling to finance their new stadium, which is less than half the cost of ours. All this in spite of their winning the champions league and having the second largest global fanbase in the premiership.

I even read that the NWDA is still pondering whether to give them finance, something to do with the European culture commision (or something like that). I'd be really pissed off if they got free money afterall, considering the squilions we are risking and investing into our project. Maybe we should be doing the same??

Taken late last month, from Archway

http://www.atma83.dsl.pipex.com/Pictures/Emirates/dscf0433copycrop.jpg

More photos up at arsenal.com, apparently taken tomorrow
http://www.arsenal.com/emiratesstadium/article.asp?article=326268&Title=Exclusive:+Latest+November+pictures&lid=the+stadium+-+Latest+News
http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates19112005_7x.jpg

latest pics:

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates23122005_8x.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates23122005_7x.jpg

Be best in country when done.

^^ um... Wembley?

^^ um... Wembley?

:okay:

swiftly followed by new anfield ;)

:okay:

swiftly followed by new anfield ;)

The City of Manchester stadium and Old Trafford are two of the best stadia in the UK, plus they actually exist. :)

The City of Manchester stadium and Old Trafford are two of the best stadia in the UK, plus they actually exist. :)

Old Trafford? Are you on drugs?

^ :D

I really like St James's

Out of interest, what do Arsenal fans think the average crowd will be at the new stadium next year?

Out of interest, what do Arsenal fans think the average crowd will be at the new stadium next year?

Errr, Full house maybe?

Seriously???

I (honestly) thought most Arsenal fans expected they'd get an average of around 45 -50.

Didn't the first 3 games this year go on general sale at Highbury?

Oh well, have to wait and see I suppose.

some numpty forgot to turn the webcam back on.

Saw this on my journey down to King's Cross this afternoon... it's looking damn impressive.

Arsenal will easily get around a 60,000 average for a number of years and this will carry on if they stay as a contender in the league. Arsenal and Spurs have the best support in London FACT!!

Seriously???

I (honestly) thought most Arsenal fans expected they'd get an average of around 45 -50.

Didn't the first 3 games this year go on general sale at Highbury?

Oh well, have to wait and see I suppose.

General sale is a strategy used by many football clubs and isn't necessarily an indication of demand. Liverpool for instance sell 5,000 match day tickets to 'members' who enter a ballott as an initial sale and then 10,000 tickets go on 'general sale' via the internet, box office and telephone. The idea is give access to as many different fans as possible rather than restricting sales to members and season ticket holders.

I recall Dein indicating that up to 8,000 ticket may be made available to visiting clubs, now he's not doing that for the benefit of football and encouraging a better mix in the crowd, I'd say that indicates that Arsenal themselves believe there will be scope to offer more tickets in this way, as demand from their own fans won't fulfil the capacity week in week out.

So long as Arsenal stay in challenging positions in the league, my own point of view is that they'll as good as sell out or sell out near enough every week.

Thing is, they are more likely tobe offering the likes of Sunderland 8000 tickets rather than United, and the likes of Sunderland are much less likely to sell 8000 tickets.

I think (like the Glazers) Arsenal have been very unfortunate with their timing in investing - they have spent their money just as the football bubble is bursting - crowds are down over the premier league, and worse for Arsenal, their team is now as bad as it has been for more than 7 years.

With the very distinct possibility of Terry H leaving, then the clouds could be well and truely gathering over their new stadium - this is a huge gamble, costing the club a lot of money (how much money have they spent in recent times despite having no midfield), and it could be about the worst time for the new stadium to be coming on line.

As I say, we'll see, this time next year things will have settled down a bit and we'll get an idea about how many seats will be sold week in week out.

P.S. Virtually all above also applies to United ith Glazers / new quadrants.

I dont believe the quadrants have been paid for with the Glazers' (lack of) money, think the club had been saving its pocket money beforehand and didnt require a loan.
and ide be very surprised if United had too much trouble selling out all the additional tickets, so long as the prices dont go up more than they already have.

I think (like the Glazers) Arsenal have been very unfortunate with their timing in investing - they have spent their money just as the football bubble is bursting - crowds are down over the premier league, and worse for Arsenal, their team is now as bad as it has been for more than 7 years.

With the very distinct possibility of Terry H leaving, then the clouds could be well and truely gathering over their new stadium - this is a huge gamble, costing the club a lot of money (how much money have they spent in recent times despite having no midfield), and it could be about the worst time for the new stadium to be coming on line.

As I say, we'll see, this time next year things will have settled down a bit and we'll get an idea about how many seats will be sold week in week out.

P.S. Virtually all above also applies to United ith Glazers / new quadrants.

I still don't buy into the idea that the football bubble is bursting right now, true Chelsea are dominant but Man Utd were just as dominant in the two seasons after the treble. The slight fall in prem attendances is IMHO mostly down to which teams are in the league(espeically Leeds being in div 1), in the last season and a half the prem has fallen from a 35K average to a 33k one where as div 1 one has increased from 15k to 17k.

I dont believe the quadrants have been paid for with the Glazers' (lack of) money, think the club had been saving its pocket money beforehand and didnt require a loan.
and ide be very surprised if United had too much trouble selling out all the additional tickets, so long as the prices dont go up more than they already have.
The new sectors in the ground were planned ages before the glazers got United ,I wouldnt say that has all been paid with none debt money.
Season Tickets will go in a flash. There has been a massive advertising campain on the new season tickets. I recon alot of people have signed upto OneUnited in the last few weeks just so they can get a season ticket.

I still don't buy into the idea that the football bubble is bursting right now, true Chelsea are dominant but Man Utd were just as dominant in the two seasons after the treble. The slight fall in prem attendances is IMHO mostly down to which teams are in the league(espeically Leeds being in div 1), in the last season and a half the prem has fallen from a 35K average to a 33k one where as div 1 one has increased from 15k to 17k.

That's just isn't right this season. Bigger teams were promoted last year than were relegated. Several established clubs have had worrying falls this season, eg Man City, Blackburn, Middlesborough. It's forcing me to revise down my predictions about the amount of capacity which is likely to be added in the future. Of course one reason is that after many years of escalating prices faster than supporters' incomes have risen the clubs are reached the breaking point and just can't get away with it any more without damaging attendances (apart from a handful of clubs). But an assumption of escalating prices will probably have been built into recent expansion or new stadium proposal, and if this forecase rate of increase has to be revised down, less schemes will be viable.

Arsenal in the time that I've supported them (since 1973) have never had crowds reguarly over 50,000 let alone near 60,000. In the days of terracing when the capacity of highbury was around 60,000 only 3 or 4 matches per season ever rose above 50,000. The only club to attract more than 60,000 is Man Utd and that is not about to change now. Despite the new Emirates I expect the average for next season to be well short of capacity although for the first time in my memory I predict the average gate at the Emirates to be above 50,000.
The club must be budgeting for a less than 100% full stadium, only a full would budget for 60,000 week in week out. The board also announced some time ago that they would be rescheduling repayments over a longer period, perhaps in light of falling attendances at other grounds.

According to their press release (and it seems reasonable) the repayment was rescheduled in their favour to reflect the reduced risk now that the stadium is half built. The main risk now is that the Arses get relegated in the next few seasons (weren't they in division 2 in the mid-70s when you started your comparison?)

its gonna be strange seeing Arsenal play on a 'bigger' pitch, or perhaps its just the illusion due to the camera positions. I hate the camera angle at Highbury, its awful.

Liverpool have never averaged more than 48,000 in their history but if we get a new ground I can see us filling it every league game for a number of years as long as we continue to challenge and win things. Manchester City have done well for the last few years at least getting over 44,000 average in their new stadium. Newcastle sell out every game but have 44,000 season ticket holders.

1. Arsenal will sell out 60 000 for premiership games.
2. Football attendances have risen every year since 1992. When you get a team like wigan and not leeds, or forest in the premiership then you will get lower averages. Boro were a bit unlucky that thousands returned their season tickets as their first 9 home games were on sky.

The main risk now is that the Arses get relegated in the next few seasons (weren't they in division 2 in the mid-70s when you started your comparison?)

They've been in the top division since 1919 or, something like that. :)

You're quite right. I apologize. I must have misremembered from my early childhood. They stumbled a bit during the mid-70s, finishing 16th and 17th in consecutive years, but soon recovered.

Bubble not vursting - did you see the crowds at the weekend for the FA Cup - people have had enough, they'll pay for the season tickets, but there is very little more you'll get out of football fans I suspect money wise.

Didn't 'THE' Arsenal take about 800 yesterday for a semi in Wigan?

Iv'e noticed that at home London clubs are good but travelling a lot of the times they never have the numbers like when Northern clubs travel such as Manchester United, Liverpool, Newcastle, Leeds or Everton. Mind you West ham and Spurs are probably the best for taking away fans out of the London clubs.

What yer reckon London types? :)

Have you ever been to Tottenham or West ham? No wonder they like to get out a lot! :)

Away to Wigan on a tuesday night in january despite it being a semi final is not an attractive proposition especially as the game was live on the box. I would imagine regular away fans would be saving thier money for the forthcoming trip to the bernabau. Mind you both clubs have got what they deserve with the fans turning thier backs on the fixture as neither club have beeen playing anywhere like thier full strength teams.

The stadium looks fantastic now, its interesting to note that the caterers will be the same as the ones used in Wembley aswell.

3rd of feb from awimb.com:

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/webcam%203%20Feb%202006.JPG

3rd of feb from awimb.com:

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/webcam%203%20Feb%202006.JPG

It'll be finished before Wembley. Perhaps the FA Cup final could be in London after all? :)

considering it hasn't been booked. No.

They haven't put any of the seats in :(

considering it hasn't been booked. No.

They haven't put any of the seats in :(

There are starting to put these in this month, any day now.

You Gooners are so fucking blessed to have a stadium of such quality. Took a load of pics earlier today. I'll add a few more later this evening. Have to make the kids' tea. :cheers:

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Why can't the stadium websites post pics like theese?
Brilliant shots scouserdave.

Really great photos. You couldn't really appreciate how good the stadium looked from the websites photos because they were too darned small!

flippin eck, dave. you've done it again! legend. looking forward to seeing the rest of them.

more more more!!

Those are amazing pics, so much better than anything the website does, i love the glass on the outside, so cool! Are those floodlights on the last pic?

Anyway thanks, cant wait to see the rest later! How did you get them by the way?

looks very impressive

scouserdave, what's your job?

scouserdave, what's your job?He hasn't got one, he accuired a yellow flourescent jacket and a hard hat from a building site once, and pretends to be from the Health and safety executive. He goes around various sites unnanounced and says it's a spot check to check site safety, they then cack their pant's and let him in. :)

Only joking there Scouserdave... :)

I am envious of the sites you have gained access to, Wembley must be fantastic also, along with the many Liverpool sites you have gained photo's of.

Let's hope the New Anfield can be as impressive as this new Arsenal stadium.

Are those floodlights on the last pic?

Not sure James. Well spotted mate.

Here's a few more. I'll slap them all on a web page later on. :cheers:

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Great pics. Although that bottom tier looks a bit shallow!!

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I see they're bringing back terracing... but only for midgets.

Will look fantastic when completed. Shame the bottom tier's so shallow, though.

Looks awesome, but I can't help but notice that the 'dipping' in the roof will cut of fans sitting in the top stands view of the opposite stand (if you get what I mean.) Looking at the 3rd photo down above, it looks like it may become a re-occuring theme in this stadium, in that the low roofs impede the views of opposide stands....? Just a thought. Top photos!

amazing pics, just cant wait to see what it looks like with seats!

the roof will cutt off the view but i think its like that to get air moving down so the pitch doesnt turn out like chavski or uniteds which are a disgrace! also i think it only really affect the people who are quite high up, and you have a completely unobstructed view of the pitch so who cares! You can get a good look around when you come in! You will be able to see really far left and right which will be cool

Amazing pictures Scouserdave!! Will you get chance to do some more in the near future?

Thanks Scoserdave. All the photos I've seen make it look incredibly cosy. Is that what it feels like inside?

Amazing pictures Scouserdave!! Will you get chance to do some more in the near future?
Thanks. I spend most of my time around the NW/Liverpool recently. I'll give it a month before returning.

Thanks Scoserdave. All the photos I've seen make it look incredibly cosy. Is that what it feels like inside?
Jake, not sure I'd describe it as cosy, but it's one fucking superb looking stadium. Just hope our new stad turns out just as good :cheers:

Just uploaded 90 pics to:
http://www.**************************/emirates

He hasn't got one, he accuired a yellow flourescent jacket and a hard hat from a building site once
He once had a bit-part in Fraggle Rock.
http://www.toughpigs.com/images/myweekfraggles06.jpg

Just uploaded 90 pics to:
http://www.**************************/emirates

LEGEND!!

such great pics! i love the roof so shiny and the way it curves at the back then hangs forward!

Dave, which is better this or wembley?

I'm guessing the roof bows/curves towards the middle for aesthetics because i can't see it having any practical use? I imagine this will obscure the view slightly for the spectators in the middle near the back. Maybe they could have made the roof a bit higher or at least even? It looks good though.

Didnt Islington insist on a height limit? For god knows what reason! Perhaps it is responding to that

without wanting to sound like a spoilt little kid or repeat myself too much i'm really dissapointed with two aspects of this stadium:

1) the dip of the roof, which hides the upper tiers, giving the impression that the stadium is smaller than it actually is and cutting off spectators on the upper tiers from one another.

2) the shallowness of the lower tier - if it was steeper it'd make the stadium look a lot bigger.

basically the estadio da luz is much better. it's almost identical but it holds 5,000 more fans and doesn't suffer from the same design faults as the emirates. compare:

http://www.in.gr/news/Reviews/Review534204/assets/Luz.jpg

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/webcam%203%20Feb%202006.JPG

having said that, yes, the emirates still is a class act.

Yep, I have to agree there. The way the Estadio da Luz is configured, when a goal gets scored the spectator gets to see the entire stadium either come alight or fall completely silent (hopefully in the Emirates more of the former rather than the latter next year!)
I think its important for the fans, and perhaps the atmosphere of the place. That said, the acoustics should be pretty good
Still, musn't grumble until we've actually been there

Dave, which is better this or wembley?
Sparks, Wembley by far, but it's an unfair comparison :cheers:

Are you planning to make any return trips to Wembley in the near future?

^^
Probably mid March

Good Stuff, when do you think Wembley will be ready? Slightly optimistic to think it will be by end of March?

without wanting to sound like a spoilt little kid or repeat myself too much i'm really dissapointed with two aspects of this stadium:

1) the dip of the roof, which hides the upper tiers, giving the impression that the stadium is smaller than it actually is and cutting off spectators on the upper tiers from one another.

2) the shallowness of the lower tier - if it was steeper it'd make the stadium look a lot bigger.

basically the estadio da luz is much better. it's almost identical but it holds 5,000 more fans and doesn't suffer from the same design faults as the emirates. compare:

having said that, yes, the emirates still is a class act.

A couple of comments to counter your observations.

1) This will only affect a small percentage of supporters, anyone sitting near the back of the upper tiers. Anyone anywhere else will be fine. I will be as my seat is in the lower tier!! Maybe the roof was designed in this way because of our weather, the Emirates roof is bigger and will keep more people dry in the lower tiers. Da luz roof is higher so when it rains more will be swept in. Although being in Portugal this is not as often as London!!

2) The angle of the lower tiers is identical in both stadiums so this is irrelevant.

Ok I am an Arsenal fan so am a bit biased, I admit :) but I am blown away by it and cannot wait to take my seat there in August.

Advantages of the Emirates are a much classier external look and in my opinion a better looking roof.

Hi Gooners. Here's a photo of Ashburton Grove from a fair way off with Centrepoint to the left I took the other day. I wonder if any of you know where the photo was taken from?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/dominiccherry1/CentrepointandAshburtonGroveLarge.jpg

Compared to Wembley....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/dominiccherry1/WembleyfromafarLarge.jpg

ooh, that's a tough one, London Eye maybe :dunno:

No it`ll be between Hyde Park and Mayfair or North of it... Edgeware Road up to Paddington...

Westminster Cathedral bell tower!

Dom, please post photos of Cardinal Place. You must have taken some;-)

I did they are in the Cardinal Place section under completed projects :)

That center point doesn't look straight to me

Is it the Post Office Tower?????
Got my bearings by the Swiss Flag which I think is the Swiss Centre on the corner of Wardour Street. I used to go to the nearby Empire Ballroom in Leicester Sq and got my scran in Chinatown when I lived in Londinium. For all us Scousers, The Empire was the equivalent of the Grafton Ballroom!

You can tell that the Emirates had height restrictions.

You can tell that the Emirates had height restrictions.

do we know why the Emirates had height restrictions placed on it? it seems a little arbitrary to me, I mean, its not like we're under some flight path, and you only have to look a couple of hundred yards slightly west and you have the hideous tower block that is the Metropolitan University

are the finances of this based on guarenteed CL football every year?

Taken earlier today

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Great shots.

I've mentioned this before but can someone please explain why the roof dips towards the middle thus impairing the view for the rows at the top slightly. Why not just keep them straight like de luz in portugal? I don't know of any practical reason why the would do this; is there any official info about the logic behind aspects of design like this? Thanks. By the way nice images, it's still one fine stadium.

It's for a couple of reasons i think, although i've never heard an official reason but i think these are the obvious ones:

1. It has to cover everyone whereas the da luz one doesnt (climate) so it would need to be much bigger if flat. I think (though im not sure) it would need more to hold it up from above - which would breach the height limit.

2. To keep the pitch in good condition which was a key aspect a sloping roof directs the airflow over the pitch so it doesnt deteriorate like stamford bridge etc.

3. Creates a better atmosphere - nowhere for the sound to go.

I think that basically sums it up but i should think that the main thing is it was needed for the very strict height limit, still most people will still be able to see all around and the views to your left and right are going to be immense!

now all it needs are some seats!

Talk about upsetting your major investors...

http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/02/28/10022092.html


Emirates: We have no say in Arsenal deal with Israel

By Saifur Rahman, Staff Reporter


Dubai: English football club Arsenal, which is sponsored by Dubai's Emirates airline, has signed a deal to promote Israel as a tourist destination from next season.

"This is unfortunate and we are obviously not happy," Mike Simon, Emirates' senior vice-president for Corporate Communications, told Gulf News on Monday.

In a news release, Arsenal said it had cleared the deal with officials in the UAE, whose national airline bought the naming rights to the new stadium.

"We were informed about it," Simon said. "We are only sponsors for the stadium and their shirts. But we have an agreement that bars Arsenal from signing other airlines. Beyond that we do not have any say on their deals."

Simon said Arsenal's latest move will not have an impact on Emirates's sponsorship.

Emirates's 15-year stadium sponsorship deal and eight-year shirt sponsorship are worth £100 million.

Ah nothing like world peace and sportsmanship!

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^ my favourite pic so far. it's a great stadium, despite my earlier criticisms.

once more dave, thanks for the pics. go to the pub tonight, buy yourself a pint and pretend the grateful stadium-geeks of scc bought it for you :D

I like the one of the city.

I wouldn't complain about the dip in the roof if I was sat at the back, not if I can turn around and see that!

the dip of the roof actually makes the stadium look quite imposing. then again the way it curves is quite graceful... basically i don't know what i'm trying to say.

i wish i was scouser dave! I'd bite my own arm off it it meant I could get a look around the stadium! I swear I must spend a couple of hours a day watching the webcam! Still I am a student.

To sum up, I think I need to find a new hobby.

I think the roof looks great as well

Thanks for the kind words chaps :cheers:

I've uploaded 60+ pics to: www.**************************/emirates2

Anyone see that red tarmac/gravel/red rubber? thing going arond the pitch?

I think that looks great.

Yeah it looks good, it's really starting to take shape, i cant wait to see them marking out the pitch area, i want to know how far it is from the stands, i have a bad feeling its going to be quite a distance. And seats now they would be useful as well, what are they waiting for!!!

Thanks for the kind words chaps :cheers:

I've uploaded 60+ pics to: www.**************************/emirates2

Quality stuff Scouserdave!! Do you have any idea when the seats are going in?

I asked the same question Clock, but apparently it's not a priority. Probably won't be for a few months. When I made a comparison with Wembley, some of the guys smirked. They reckon the early installation of their seats was a publicity stunt ordered by Multiplex, so as to give the false impression Wembley was on target to meet it's completion date.

Anyone see that red tarmac/gravel/red rubber? thing going arond the pitch?

I think that looks great.

are my eyes deceiving me? I only see black tarmac

they covered the black stuff in red stuff yesterday, it was on the webcam, i'm assuming thats where eddyk must have seen it.

It did look like a publicity stunt, and they said they could do some ridiculous amount a week if they wanted to so i suppose there is no rush, especially as it looks like most of the bracketing is done. But dammit i want seats! Next time you're there Scouserdave tell them i'm impatient please!! :)

On the shedule they posted on the Arsenal site, it says the seats go in this month.

w/ thanks to albiontillwedie.co.uk, more pics here (http://www.albiontillwedie.co.uk/photoarchive/features/emiratesstadiumfeb06.html#null):

http://www.albiontillwedie.co.uk/photoarchive/photofeature/images/full/emiratesstadiumfeb06/15.jpg

I hope they actually clad the stairwells in something more than that.

i was thinking that as well, it looks like a piece of wire west, proper pony. The original pictures all looked like it would have some kind of glass over it to fit with the rest but it certianly doesnt look like that there, which would be a real shame considering how cool the rest of the outside looks!

Watching MOTD the ther night and noticed the gap between the goal and the fans in the City of Manchester stadium

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/WOCO/262308_MEDIUMLANDSCAPE.jpg

http://www.rtfract.com/rtfract/panoolymp.jpg

and reckoned that the Emirates will probably be something similar

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Its a pity! but then, if you compare with some other new(ish) stadiums, they pretty much have similar distances. I wonder if this isn't some FA regulation now

Stadium of Light
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Reebok
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it may be a fifa/uefa/fa regulation, it may also be designed that way to allow rugby union/league to be played there (?).

either way it's not a big deal. it's hardly like there's a running track around the ground.

Talking of UEFA. Will the Emirates be able to host UEFA or Champions League Finals?

ermmm...

Will the Emirates be able to host UEFA or Champions League Finals?
Yes.

it is slightly crazy though, i think it is at west ham that the new stand is miles away, on motd you can hardly see it on the camera, just this vast expanse of a border!

I want to see where the pitch is gonna be cos even from that outline they've done we dont know how much further in its going to be, which is kinda worrying.

Although its completely unrelated, and wont matter once wembley is done, why has highbury never been used for an England game? They've used white hart lane so it cant be size, very odd.

it is slightly crazy though, i think it is at west ham that the new stand is miles away, on motd you can hardly see it on the camera, just this vast expanse of a border!

that's just a temporary thing. the pitch will be shifted closer to that new dr martens stand when the east stand opposite is rebuilt.

it is slightly crazy though, i think it is at west ham that the new stand is miles away, on motd you can hardly see it on the camera, just this vast expanse of a border!

I want to see where the pitch is gonna be cos even from that outline they've done we dont know how much further in its going to be, which is kinda worrying.

Although its completely unrelated, and wont matter once wembley is done, why has highbury never been used for an England game? They've used white hart lane so it cant be size, very odd.

It has been used many times before just not in the past 50 years or so.

There was a famous game against Italy that was called the Battle of Highbury, England had 7 Arsenal players in the team that day. Of course, England won!! :)

In todays matchday programme it states that the first set of seats are being installed tomorrow!!

Wicked, i'll be watching on the Webcam then.

well i did have to write an essay tomorrow but now i'll just be watching the webacam!!

I know it has been used in the past i just find it a bit odd that they havent used it in the last couple of years while wembley has been rebuilt, would seem like a perfect venue if they are willing to use shi*e hart lane!

James 21 and everyone intersted in seeing the new seats should tune into sky sports news (at 1 o'clock) as the promise they will be at the emirates stadium to view the installation of the new seats

It was on BBC London news a few minutes ago

I was watching it, but was dragged out of the house at 2pm just as the news story was coming on.

I saw they had put 1 seat in.

Arrested again then Eddy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2006/03/13/ashburton_grove1_440x330.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2006/03/13/ashburton_grove2_440x330.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2006/03/13/ashburton_grove3_440x330.jpg

seats will be going in at around 4,000 per week

hows the outside looking?

hows the outside looking?
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/neubau/fotos/emirates_stadium/20060301/110.jpg

It looks very American from the out side.(which isnt a bad thing).

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/neubau/fotos/emirates_stadium/20060301/110.jpg

looking really good now.

Does anyone know whats going to happne to the bare conrete below th eemirates sign & behind the badge- Is this going to get a lick of paint or be clad with anything??

It looks very American from the out side.(which isnt a bad thing).

Not least because of the US-style font used for 'EMIRATES STADIUM'. Crap! Would've looked nicer (and more corporate) in the Emirates font.

The Emirates Stadium font is the same as the font used on the old East Stand.
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/neubau/fotos/emirates_stadium/20060301/110.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/carlspannard/outsidetheeaststand.jpg

Well Spotted!! I hadn't noticed myself, its good that they are using the same font as what is on the East Stand, a little Highbury feature coming over to Emirates is good.

Not least because of the US-style font used for 'EMIRATES STADIUM'. Crap! Would've looked nicer (and more corporate) in the Emirates font.

I'm sorry, did I read you correctly? 'would've looked nicer and more corporate in the Emirates font'

..............No more questions your honour.

The bulk of the exterior (between the glass) isn't going to stay concrete colour is it?

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/neubau/fotos/emirates_stadium/20060301/110.jpg

Looks really good.

^^ Damn good!

Took these today with my camera phone, the stadium is looking great now. The photos really don't give the impression of the size of it though, its massive!!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/clockender/DSC00067.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/clockender/DSC00066.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/clockender/DSC00065.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/clockender/DSC00064.jpg

I'm sorry, did I read you correctly? 'would've looked nicer and more corporate in the Emirates font'

..............No more questions your honour.

:weirdo:

Emirates from Kings X:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/supertek/IMGP0181.jpg

My mate's bought a season ticket for the first season in the Emirates (over £900!) and is going there today to pick her seat. Funny, seeing as the stadium's hardly got any seats installed yet! :tongue3:

I'll be around the Hornsey Rd tomorrow. Hope to get time to see how the stadium's progressing :cheers:

Looking great. I'm looking forward to seeing how they'll cover up that bare concrete though. To be honest I'll be relieved to see the back of it.

Looking great. I'm looking forward to seeing how they'll cover up that bare concrete though. To be honest I'll be relieved to see the back of it.
What the fuck does that mean? :weirdo:

Do I really deserve the ego crippling smilie as well? All I was saying was that it (the EMIRATES BLOODY STADIUM) was looking great in the photos. I was also saying that the exposed concrete has to go, and that I am eager to see how they'll cover up the concrete.

Tsk, some people ;)

My mate's bought a season ticket for the first season in the Emirates (over £900!) and is going there today to pick her seat. Funny, seeing as the stadium's hardly got any seats installed yet! :tongue3:

You don't go to the stadium, you go to a reservation centre and pick your seat through virtual reality.

Dave, when are you next going back to Wembley?

My mate's bought a season ticket for the first season in the Emirates (over £900!) and is going there today to pick her seat. Funny, seeing as the stadium's hardly got any seats installed yet! :tongue3:

I found this on another site. This is the virtual reality image that your mate is shown
Click Here For Virtual Reality Image (http://www.aidan.obyrne.btinternet.co.uk/agseat.jpg)

Dave, when are you next going back to Wembley?
Apologies Sparks for the late reply :bash:
I busted a couple of ribs in early Feb and they flared up again this week. Hoping to get to both stads next week :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2006/03/13/ashburton_grove5_330x440.jpg

Cheers Dave, hope the ribs hold up.

Did you get the injury whilst breaking into the stadium or whilst you were escaping the police? ;)

Did you get the injury whilst breaking into the stadium or whilst you were escaping the police? ;)
Close.
I fell off a stadium roof and landed on a policeman :)

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/neubau/fotos/emirates_stadium/20060301/110.jpg

If that concrete stays uncovered I think it looks great in combination with the glass areas. The exterior as a whole is definately one of the most stylist modern ones I'v seen and reminds me alot of the current style of skyscaper going up in London right now.

A few from earlier today guys.
http://www.**************************/gooner0001.jpg

http://www.**************************/gooner0002.jpg

http://www.**************************/gooner0003.jpg

http://www.**************************/gooner0004.jpg

If that concrete stays uncovered I think it looks great in combination with the glass areas. The exterior as a whole is definately one of the most stylist modern ones I'v seen and reminds me alot of the current style of skyscaper going up in London right now.

cladding please , it's very ugly and looks unfinished and dirty , i hope they have eyes at arsenal fc .

Your ribs held up then, which is good.

Look forward to seeing the rest of them.

Sparks, just uploaded 45 images to:
http://www.**************************/emirates3

Ribs aint too bad! Great result by the Gooners tonight.
:applause: Fabregas was unbelievable :applause:

^^^ Wow those photos are stunning. Upload some to the World Forums... Cheers!

Wicked.

It seems they have kept the Art Deco style of the old stadium true in this one...exterior wise that is.

Great Photos!!! Thanks Dave!

Great match today!!! Thanks Arsenal!!

amazing pics once again! Was that the directors box at the end? At seats! I thought they were putting them all in club level first but now i see why they havent been on the webcam! gives you a real idea of how great it is going to be once the concrete is covered with good ol red seats

p.s. fabregas is a legend

am dissappointed with the social housing aspect of this development, located across the road. It doesnt seem to have had much care allocated to it and seems to lack attention to detail. Its still work in progress but im not liking what im seeing and cant imagine it ageing well

am dissappointed with the social housing aspect of this development, located across the road. It doesnt seem to have had much care allocated to it and seems to lack attention to detail. Its still work in progress but im not liking what im seeing and cant imagine it ageing well

What are you talking about? it looks great. I went past it the other day. The largest Zinc clad building in Europe. To build a massive housing development in the style of a Daniel Liebskind and not in the usual yellow brick cottage style of Barratt homes is why Arsenal have a tradition of progressive architecture

aah, hang on, sorry Potto, I presume you mean these:

http://www.**************************/emirates3/images/image036.jpg

I thought you meant the new development on the Northern Triangle (which I can't find any images of)
So I take your point, but these are council owned, which is outside of Arsenals responsibility

no no the stuff around the new stadium and the old stadium looks exciting, its the bit up towards Caledonian Road tube station, its where the recycling Centre was moved to and is still part of the Stadium masterplan. The blocks although each individually styled look cheap with some of it bearing what i think is pretty shocking design. Also the recycling centre has seemingly cut off an obvious direct route from Caledonian Rd tube down to the Stadium and new housing... I should take some photos

Looking amazing

no no the stuff around the new stadium and the old stadium looks exciting, its the bit up towards Caledonian Road tube station, its where the recycling Centre was moved to and is still part of the Stadium masterplan. The blocks although each individually styled look cheap with some of it bearing what i think is pretty shocking design. Also the recycling centre has seemingly cut off an obvious direct route from Caledonian Rd tube down to the Stadium and new housing... I should take some photos


Yes do- im a bit confused- Do you mean the Vizion development???

:applause: :applause: Heard on the radio that the Emirates is ahead of schedule and will be handed over to the Gooners before the end of the season :applause: :applause:

THEY APPARENTLY HAVE TO DO 3 GAMES BEFORE THEY CAN HOLD A FULL 60,000 CAPACITY GAME.

I THINK A 20,000 + 2X 40,000 I THINK

Arsenal to take super surface to Emirates

The pitch at Emirates Stadium, the new home of Arsenal Football Club from August this year, will be one of the most technically advanced in the world.

http://www.arsenal.com/emiratesstadium/article.asp?article=375035&Title=the%20stadium%20-%20Latest%20News

Wow I don't check this thread for a couple of months and return to find it almost completed. Looking great :banana:

cladding please , it's very ugly and looks unfinished and dirty , i hope they have eyes at arsenal fc .

http://www.u-blog.net/arsenal/img/emirates2_800-001.jpg

Looking at the original renders, we'll have some kind of glass cladding going on over the concrete. I'm confident this'll be a fucking amazing stadium, with no corners cut.

I was at Finsbury Park Station the other day ( i dont normally use the overland trains). And this stadium looked friggin AMAZING from the platform.......huge, imposing, looming....but beautiful and quite graceful at the same time, such a shame it doesnt have a little bit more height to it, to make more of a pinnicle........nevertheless, its great

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Arsenal_Emirates_Stadium_roof.jpg
from wikimedia © Andrew Dunn, 25 March 2006

^^^ Great photo! The under-side of the roof looks like copper...

Nah, copper is too expensive...most likely be gold.

It's looking good. I love that material on the under-side of the roof!

spectacular stadium, can't wait to see the gunners playing in it next season.

the above pic shows something interesting, there seems to be some sort of mesh put onto the concrete on the outside of the stadium. think that will look really good on sunny days reflecting the light. it's a good job too because i think the concrete by itself was a little dull.

^^^ Great photo! The under-side of the roof looks like copper...

Because its a sort of shiny aluminium, it can vary its colour according to the light and times of the day. It normally looks silver. It will soon start reflecting all the red seats underneath it