The Gateway

This striking development will contain apartments, a hotel, restaurants and retail units. Cutting through the development is a pedestrian tree lined boulevard.

No. of floors -
Height -
Building type - Mixed use
Year of construction - 2005
Architect -
Location - Current site of Howarth Timber

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/StreetScene_Lge_3.jpg

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/College_Lge%20_3.jpg

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/Calls_Lge_3.jpg

Does this have an official site? Its advanced and big enough to... Any names of companies involved?

Shepherd are building it, as you well know and the developers are Nottingham based 'Scotfield'. The website is fairly rubbish though!

http://www.scotfield.co.uk/

Does anyone know what the official completion date of this is? It's certainly coming along quickly. I get a good look coming past every day on the train.

Does anyone know what the official completion date of this is? It's certainly coming along quickly. I get a good look coming past every day on the train.

Press release from the Shepherd website:

Shepherd Starts Work on Leeds’ Largest Mixed-Use Scheme
Posted on: 6/5/2005

Shepherd has started work on Phase One of the largest ever mixed-use development in Leeds city centre. Known as “The Gateway”, the development is taking place on a four-acre island site which was formerly occupied by Howarth Timber.

Shepherd’s £37.5 million contract comprises 256 apartments in two blocks together with a 218 bed hotel (already leased to the Accor Group), 30,000 sq ft of office space and basement car parking for 250 vehicles. 85% of the apartments have already been sold.

Carried out on behalf of Scotfield developers, Phase One is part of a massive £135 million regeneration scheme, which has an estimated construction value of £71 million. The development is set to completely transform the east end of Leeds, providing a total of 642 residential apartments, 550 car parking spaces, the hotel, commercial space, retail and crèche facilities.

Phase One of the fifteen-storey project is scheduled for completion in December 2006.

This was also taken about 8 weeks ago, but shows the scale of the site and the height of the cores. I guess there maybe some steel framework on its way pretty soon.

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really motoring is this one...... up to 2nd floor on concrete formwork. Appears to be about 5 or 6 separate cores to be joined up for the hotel and 2 apartment blocks. Remember this is only the first stage, a similar amount is also planned for the back of the site.

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At last, this development has its own website: www.thegatewayleeds.com (http://)

It's only a holding site at the moment but we're promised the full thing in the autumn.

Signs are up advertising the next phase, the office development due to start shortly. We could be seeing even more action on site!

The website is now up and running - quite a nice site. Also if you take a look at the site plan and hover over the red dots it gives some views of the site. On the back corner the tallest building looks about 25+ storeys - looks pretty good from the view they have.

The website is now up and running - quite a nice site. Also if you take a look at the site plan and hover over the red dots it gives some views of the site. On the back corner the tallest building looks about 25+ storeys - looks pretty good from the view they have.
I've just noticed a small picture of that development on the hoardings on one of Jimbo's photos, and that building looks at least double the height of the rest. And we can count a good 14 storeys on the cores of those buildings currently under construction - and they might not be at full height. So could this be another 30 or so storey building that almost slipped under our radar?

What a cool website. I especially like the the page that has the cars driving on it.

Not sure what's going on with this one as on one of the renderings there there deifinitely appears to be a section that goes up to at least 22/23 floors. I was under the impression that this was going no fugther than about 14 storey's.

Just checked one of the other renderings on there. Could this tower have snuck up on us unannounced?:)

Just checked one of the other renderings on there. Could this tower have snuck up on us unannounced?:)

No - it is only 14-15 storeys at the most.

Click on Location, Plan Location and then select the South View. At least 20 storey's plus.

Click on Location, Plan Location and then select the South View. At least 20 storey's plus.

Sorry Mark - you can't seem to count !

If you follow the instructions above, as Bob101 and P60 also spotted, there is a tower that is at least 20 floors plus. Bob101 put it at 30 storey's.

they're right, you know - click on this link and hover on the bottom-left red dot. twenty-odd, definitely.

http://www.thegatewayleeds.com/planlocation.htm

Did nobody notice the tower on the hoardings then?

Looks a good un. I count it as 25/26 floors.

Im all excited about this project now! I think it really will provide a gateway- the first view of Leeds City Centre for many people might be this, its great.

they're right, you know - click on this link and hover on the bottom-left red dot. twenty-odd, definitely.

http://www.thegatewayleeds.com/planlocation.htm

Quite right and my apologies to Mark - but why does it only show up in this particular aspect. Click on Site Location and you will see that the (green) rendering only suggests 13-14. Also why no mention of such a high building in the planning application ? - I suspect it has not yet been approved and it is part of the proposed second phase. No core has gone up in that particular location on the site.

I count 21 + the top bit - could this be yet another response to rising build costs? 14 storeys = uneconomic, 23 storeys (more apts) = make a profit?

Cladding looks interesting - anyone like to suggest what it's made of? Glazed aluminium?

Maybe its because of demand too...

Could be Mayfairs twin this.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1013Mayfair_pic1.jpg

The BWP webcam should reveal a new skyline, as in the background The Gateway and the location of future Clarence House are visible. The whole east of the city is getting a real transformation, this is a really modern development filling in the gap between the riverside and the city centre east.

try just www.thegatewayleeds.com (instead of planlocation.htm)

Have just heard via the structural engineers to the project that the tower will be 26 storeys high ! :)

Have just heard via the structural engineers to the project that the tower will be 26 storeys high ! :)
26 storeys - not bad for that part of Leeds.

26 storeys - not bad for that part of Leeds.

Yes pretty good. Looks as if it is the result of an amendment to the original scheme that was passed unnoticed by us all. Look at #5 in this thread; only sixmonths ago it was meant to be 14 storeys at the highest.

any idea how that translates into metres / feet?

At least 80m.

This is great news, about the same height as WRH, maybe bigger. How did this pass us all by? It's nearly doubled in size.

It'll fill the gap nicely from the Royal Armouries and Clarence Dock, as well as hiding Quarry House for those who don't like it.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/Leeds%2031%20August%2005/P1010190.jpg

How did this pass us all by? It's nearly doubled in size.

I would think because they won't have put in the planning application yet.

This is an excellant development of the Gateway site though, it was all rather dissapointingly bland as it was before, really needed a taller element to set it off.

Have just heard via the structural engineers to the project that the tower will be 26 storeys high ! :)

yee ha! i could almost guarantee this might happen. Whenever I leave the country for a week or so I come back to a new tower or development announcement. I agree with Rob that this increase in height can't have gone through planning permission yet, as I'm sure we'd have noticed it. However, if they are releasing site masterplan images etc then I'm sure they must have had some discussion with the council. Fantastic - I like that image looking down towards it from East Street with Trinity1 on the left.

If you look at the site masterplan red dot in the top left corner looking towards Trinity 1 it certainly confirms that the tower at the back of the site is much taller than originally anticipated. Good site as well! Hurrah!

Another tower in a gateway location, cunningly titled The Gateway. Yee Gods, these marketing people eh, don't miss a trick!

26 storeys - not bad for that part of Leeds.

not bad!?!?! Bleedin fantastic. I always had doubts about the scheme along the lines of it looking like a glorified traffic island...... I'd still not care for most the apartment views, but this tower looking out across to Clarence House will be excellent if it all goes ahead.

Fred2 - whose your source old boy!?!!

not bad!?!?! Bleedin fantastic.

Fred2 - whose your source old boy!?!!


My daughter works in the firm - though different department. Don't think I should give the name but would do so privately. :)

05 Sep 2005 > Leeds Gateway Opens Up New Tower Plans

With the first phases of the Gateway in Leeds under construction developer Scotfield has revealed the next phase of their development - a 26 floor mixed use tower of approximately 80 metres tall, the number that appears to be the economically viable cut off point for the majority of tall buildings planned in Leeds.

The original master-plan called for a 15 floor building on this particular part of the site, but heating up high-rise market in Leeds, the success of neighbouring projects and the ever growing height of newer projects have all combined to drive up the scale of this section of the scheme with demand for residential apartments far outstripping supply.

The other parts of The Gateway are 13 and 14 floor towers that are currently under construction and expected to be completed in late 2006 by construction contractor the Shepherd Group. Space in them has largely sold out.

Along with this new revision, they provide a total of over 640 apartments plus a 218 room hotel that has been leased to the Accor Group and office space making it easily the largest single scheme to have yet been built in Leeds.
The tower which stands on one corner of the project has been designed by Carey Jones, an architects practise currently so busy in Leeds they are almost literally designing and building every second development - we have no less than 20 projects by them for Leeds in the database of which only four are complete.

The site is currently bounded by main roads and the resulting heavy traffic on all sides and was previously the site of Howarth Timber. There had been fears that the location would see project would end up as little more than a glorified traffic island but the new tower proposal could turn the Gateway from an unremarkable development into another landmark on the rapidly growing Leeds skyline.

If the tower does go ahead as Nottingham based Scotfield hope, work is expected to start at the earliest in the latter half of 2006.

http://skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3551GatewaySouth_pic1.jpg

05 Sep 2005 > Leeds Gateway Opens Up New Tower Plans

With the first phases of the Gateway in Leeds under construction developer Scotfield has revealed the next phase of their development - a 26 floor mixed use tower of approximately 80 metres tall, the number that appears to be the economically viable cut off point for the majority of tall buildings planned in Leeds.

The original master-plan called for a 15 floor building on this particular part of the site, but heating up high-rise market in Leeds, the success of neighbouring projects and the ever growing height of newer projects have all combined to drive up the scale of this section of the scheme with demand for residential apartments far outstripping supply.

The other parts of The Gateway are 13 and 14 floor towers that are currently under construction and expected to be completed in late 2006 by construction contractor the Shepherd Group. Space in them has largely sold out.

Along with this new revision, they provide a total of over 640 apartments plus a 218 room hotel that has been leased to the Accor Group and office space making it easily the largest single scheme to have yet been built in Leeds.
The tower which stands on one corner of the project has been designed by Carey Jones, an architects practise currently so busy in Leeds they are almost literally designing and building every second development - we have no less than 20 projects by them for Leeds in the database of which only four are complete.

The site is currently bounded by main roads and the resulting heavy traffic on all sides and was previously the site of Howarth Timber. There had been fears that the location would see project would end up as little more than a glorified traffic island but the new tower proposal could turn the Gateway from an unremarkable development into another landmark on the rapidly growing Leeds skyline.

If the tower does go ahead as Nottingham based Scotfield hope, work is expected to start at the earliest in the latter half of 2006.

http://skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3551GatewaySouth_pic1.jpg

whey hey - presume that came from Gothicform's site. In which case I'm proud of coining the term 'glorified traffic island'. Not perhaps as catchy as 'the cheesegrater', or 'the Gherkin' though. ;)

Also presume Gothic has been in touch with Scofield to find out about the late 2006 tower start. Does this confirm it is officially 80m as well?

a 26 floor mixed use tower of approximately 80 metres tall, the number that appears to be the economically viable cut off point for the majority of tall buildings planned in Leeds.

I don't know why this line appeared in the article though.

It may be a glorified traffic island but I'm sure from inside the development it'll be fine. The Plaza, Mayfair and BWP are all surrounded by busy roads anyway. (And probably more Ive forgotten about)

...........another one to add to the long list of skyscraper projects in Leeds.

This will make 14 towers 26 storeys or over either proposed or under construction- there can't be many cities in the Uk or Europe with more.

..........Leeds just keeps reaching for the skies!!

It does not look like mayfair, caw - maybe from the poor renders we have so far, but when we finally see some proper renderings of Mayfair, you'll see it's a very different (and much higher quality) tower.

Anyway, is this the application? I'll check it out if its is.

Application 20/132/05/OT
Received on 31/03/2005

Description
outline application to layout access and erect 850 flats offices and a1/a3 retail space with 781 car parking spaces
Location
LOWFOLD EAST STREET LEEDS 9 3133-3268 MAJ
Library
Richmond Hill
Add to my list

It does not look like mayfair, caw - maybe from the poor renders we have so far, but when we finally see some proper renderings of Mayfair, you'll see it's a very different (and much higher quality) tower.

Anyway, is this the application? I'll check it out if its is.

Application 20/132/05/OT
Received on 31/03/2005

Description
outline application to layout access and erect 850 flats offices and a1/a3 retail space with 781 car parking spaces
Location
LOWFOLD EAST STREET LEEDS 9 3133-3268 MAJ
Library
Richmond Hill


Add to my list

No, this is a separate large development further east from Gateway. As yet no renderings. Adjoining, to the south east is another proposed striking development 'Aire'. Including these two, there are no less than 10 separate developments of varying sizes and at various stages of construction, demolition or planning along East Street with another, Protier, on the opposite (south) bank of the river to 'Aire'. This area of Leeds will be completely transformed within the next five or so years. :)

The gateway, last week:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/leeds_gateway-oct05.jpg

probably a day or two later - no great change, although the 4th crane has disappeared. Posters on the hoardings are saying the entire 1st phase will be ready for occupation in September 2006.

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I'm glad this project is well on schedule- it is one of the sites that is like a 'missing piece' to Leeds. Similar sites include city square house, and the millennium squre civic theatre was one too. It will give a full feeling to this area, and build its density up to give a city feel with a landmark tower as a welcome to the city centre. BWP is also the same- it will build up a city feel density right up to the road, extending the city centre south of the river.
That makes me think too, that one of the reasons why Leeds is so exciting at the moment, is not so much because of the developments, but because of the structure of the city changing. The inner city in the east is practically gone now, replaced with things like Trinity One and Clarence Dock.

The gateway, last week:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/leeds_gateway-oct05.jpg


Building work is progressing very quickly on this site. This is how it looks a month or so on from Talisker's pic. Note the posters announcing that the first two phases of the flats have been sold.

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Saxton Gardens is almost obscured from view:

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The portacabins on the right of this shot are just about where the tower will stand, I think.

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good! Any idea when we could see a start on this tower? I'm only asking because next year Clarence House and Providence may well be underway and even maybe the Plaza towards the end. Not forgetting the completion of BWP and maybe other schemes too. Spiracle and City One are both developing in planning...

you're right, its really coming on. If the first two phases are sold out, then I'd suspect that the developers are rubbing their hands together and could be wanting to crack on with the final phases asap. With the new 26 storey tower involved, lets hope so. Still the most interesting traffic island in Leeds IMO.

AFAIK the developers are trying to get the Tower height increased to 30 plus storeys!!!

Talking of Saxon Gardens - anybody heard anymore about the UrbanEdge plan to redevelop these in luxury apartments?

Can anyone tell me the validity of the AFAIK claim to attempt to increase the tower to 30+ storeys that Stig mentioned? is this looking promising? i come into Leeds from the East so this bad boy would look just swell from the A64, the taller the better :)

I really couldnt say, but 26 is fine for me! Whatever happens here will be great. The A64 entrance to the city could do with a bit of excitement, it seems to suddenly go from estates to city centre... While I like Quarry House it splits the city and reduces the effect the richness of the city centre has on the surrounding area. Leeds' city centre is quite enclosed from the rest of the city really.

It's looking good and dominating it's vicinity already, but the tower is really needed to get it noticed on a city scale, and to truly be a 'gateway' into the east end.

26 storeys is pretty good, not much short of 30.

Aviator pointed out the posters stating phase 1 and 2 are sold out, but if you look at the smaller print beneath, it says register now for next release ! Could it mean the next construction phase or just a release of more apts in the current construction ?

Also, Shepherd Construction have updated their website with this contract, no details of when the next phases will happen though.

mis post :bash:

There's a brief piece in today's Yorkshire Post to say that, with the successful release of the first two phases, the next phase of development will start next spring.

There's a brief piece in today's Yorkshire Post to say that, with the successful release of the first two phases, the next phase of development will start next spring.

Yes,we are talking only three to four months and I presume this third phase will include the 26 storey tower.

Let's hope so :)

There's a brief piece in today's Yorkshire Post to say that, with the successful release of the first two phases, the next phase of development will start next spring.

if it does include the tower won't they need to get planning permission sorted quick smart. I suppose a height extension might not necessitate a huge change to the current approved plans, but nevertheless it will take time to pass through the process. This development never ceases to amaze me. I wonder how many people are owner occupiers, and how many purchases are investments / buy to let. I'd wager most are the latter. You'd have to be out of your mind to choose the Gateway ahead of pretty much any other city development at the moment (perhaps aside from Velocity which is cheap, crappy looking and too isolated at the moment).

That depends on what is approved already, perhaps the tower was in the plans that were approved. I seem to remember that the discription was 'multi-level' development, so could be either scheme. If not, then a start date will be some time away.

if it does include the tower won't they need to get planning permission sorted quick smart. I suppose a height extension might not necessitate a huge change to the current approved plans, but nevertheless it will take time to pass through the process. This development never ceases to amaze me. I wonder how many people are owner occupiers, and how many purchases are investments / buy to let. I'd wager most are the latter. You'd have to be out of your mind to choose the Gateway ahead of pretty much any other city development at the moment (perhaps aside from Velocity which is cheap, crappy looking and too isolated at the moment).

That's unexpectedly downbeat for you, Jimbo. I don't know what the specifications are for the flats but I think this is a well-sited development. I never bought that nonsense about it being a traffic island. Let's face it, City Island is bounded by the canal, the river, and the inner ring road, and the people living on the north side have to look at the gulag which is the Yorkshire Post building. But it's full, and is about to be extended.

Gateway is very close the the funkiest (can't believe I'm using that word) part of town - the Playhouse, College of Music, the Wardrobe, Northern Ballet Theatre (if it ever comes off) and all the independent bars and restaurants near the Corn Exchange.

Gateway to a sell-out ...
Apartments snapped up at new £135m multi-purpose city development
EXCLUSIVE
By Jo Rostron
A HUGE hotel and one of the biggest bars in Leeds are set to be part of this multi-million pound development on the east side of the city.
Work is now underway on the £135m Gateway regeneration scheme which will include a 218 bed hotel and 4,000sq ft ground floor bar.
The four-acre island site, close to the River Aire, has been hailed the largest mixed-use development in the centre of Leeds.
Developers Scotfield have announced that all 256 apartments in phases one and two of the scheme have been sold in record time since their release last year.
Phase three will start next March when further apartments will be built.
When completed, the complex will provide 642 residential apartments, 30,000 sqft of offices, retail, and creche facilities, and 550 underground car parking spaces.
Work has already begun on the first phase which includes building two separate tower blocks next to each other to house the facilities including the bar and hotel which has been pre-let to French giant, Accor, who will operate under their new Etap brand. This will be ready in December 2006.
Agents Gerwynbryan are currently in negotiations with crèche operators, convenience stores and local retail users such as dry cleaners, who are all keen to snap up space in the complex.
Gerwyn Bryan, development consultant, said: "We want local retailers to be based under the apartments. Considering the speed with which the apartments were occupied, we don't foresee any difficulties filling the space."
The site will eventually comprise three tower blocks to house all the outlets and facilities.
Martin Rapley, chairman of developers Scotfield, said: "We are delighted with the progress of the scheme and the work that our appointed contractor, Shepherd Construction, has carried out. The interest in the apartments was phenomenal and many were purchased by investors, indicating the confidence in the scheme."
As a result of the successes of phases one and two, Scotfield are currently negotiating a building contract for phase three with a view to work commencing on-site in Spring 2006.
jo. rostron@ypn.co.uk

It seems to me that this should be a blueprint for all schemes like this. Very little advance fanfare (unlike Criterion, BWP et all), planning permission granted, construction started almost immediately, builders working 12-14 hours per day and also at weekends, the whole core completed in double quick time and phase 1 & 2 sold out with phase 3 to follow in the next few months. Hotel and bar pre-let, brilliant.

From the YEP today.


Gateway to a sell-out

Apartments snapped up at new £135m multi-purpose city development

A HUGE hotel and one of the biggest bars in Leeds are set to be part of this multi-million pound development on the east side of the city.
Work is now underway on the £135m Gateway regeneration scheme which will include a 218 bed hotel and 4,000sq ft ground floor bar.
The four-acre island site, close to the River Aire, has been hailed the largest mixed-use development in the centre of Leeds.
Developers Scotfield have announced that all 256 apartments in phases one and two of the scheme have been sold in record time since their release last year.
Phase three will start next March when further apartments will be built.
When completed, the complex will provide 642 residential apartments, 30,000 sqft of offices, retail, and creche facilities, and 550 underground car parking spaces.
Work has already begun on the first phase which includes building two separate tower blocks next to each other to house the facilities including the bar and hotel which has been pre-let to French giant, Accor, who will operate under their new Etap brand. This will be ready in December 2006.
Agents Gerwynbryan are currently in negotiations with crèche operators, convenience stores and local retail users such as dry cleaners, who are all keen to snap up space in the complex.
Gerwyn Bryan, development consultant, said: "We want local retailers to be based under the apartments. Considering the speed with which the apartments were occupied, we don't foresee any difficulties filling the space."
The site will eventually comprise three tower blocks to house all the outlets and facilities.
Martin Rapley, chairman of developers Scotfield, said: "We are delighted with the progress of the scheme and the work that our appointed contractor, Shepherd Construction, has carried out. The interest in the apartments was phenomenal and many were purchased by investors, indicating the confidence in the scheme."
As a result of the successes of phases one and two, Scotfield are currently negotiating a building contract for phase three with a view to work commencing on-site in Spring 2006.


The first 2 phases sold out!!! WOW! Do you believe this to be true or just a coy marketing ploy?

So, phase 3 is due to start in March 2006! I'm guessing this will include the proposed 26 storey tower.

:cheers:

That's unexpectedly downbeat for you, Jimbo. I don't know what the specifications are for the flats but I think this is a well-sited development. I never bought that nonsense about it being a traffic island. Let's face it, City Island is bounded by the canal, the river, and the inner ring road, and the people living on the north side have to look at the gulag which is the Yorkshire Post building. But it's full, and is about to be extended.

Gateway is very close the the funkiest (can't believe I'm using that word) part of town - the Playhouse, College of Music, the Wardrobe, Northern Ballet Theatre (if it ever comes off) and all the independent bars and restaurants near the Corn Exchange.

Downbeat yes, but I'd be very surprised if the ratio of owner occupiers to buy to let investors is particularly favourable. The scheme is huge, and for the east of Leeds is indeed well sited, but its hard to deny that its surrounded by several major 2 lane arterial roads, which might make somewhat of a racket for those on the 1st to 3rd floors perhaps?

Quarry Hill is becoming a hubbub of nightlife and culture, and one would hope eventually Clarence Dock (with arena........) would do the same.

The latest figures are suggesting that owner occupiers and renters are split about 50-50 in the city centre residential market, overall.

However, I would expect that a higher proportion of new flats are bought by big investment companies who can stump up the millions to buy in bulk and get discounts for doing so and renting them out, then selling them off one by one at increased prices to make a profit, and this is more likely the point that the private buyer/owner occupier would enter the market, on a one by one basis when the development is established after a few years. (A bit like company cars bought on mass when new, and sold on to private buyers one by one when they are a few years old).

My point being that although there may be more bulk bought and rented apartments in developments like the Gateway now, there may be a better balance of owner occupiers a few years down the line. If this is the only way of getting these big developments funded and therefore built, then so be it, that's fine by me.

Surely it does not matter who is buying the apppartments. The fact that an investor buys the appartments, should be seen as a good thing as it will encourage developers into bigger and bolder schemes knowing that they are likely to have bulk buyers.

Exactly. :yes:

Apartments snapped up at new £135m city site

A huge hotel and one of the biggest bars in Leeds are set to be part of a multi-million pound development on the east side of Leeds.

Work is now underway on the £135m Gateway regeneration scheme which will include a 218 bed hotel and 4,000sq ft ground floor bar.

The four-acre island site, close to the River Aire, has been hailed the largest mixed-use development in the centre of Leeds.

Developers Scotfield have announced that all 256 apartments in phases one and two of the scheme have been sold in record time since their release last year.

Phase three will start next March when further apartments will be built. When completed, the complex will provide 642 residential apartments, 30,000 sqft of offices, retail, and creche facilities, and 550 underground car parking spaces.

Work has already begun on the first phase, which includes building two separate tower blocks next to each other to house the facilities including the bar and hotel, which has been pre-let to French giant, Accor, who will operate under their new Etap brand. This will be ready in December 2006.

Agents Gerwynbryan are currently in negotiations with crèche operators, convenience stores and local retail users such as dry cleaners, who are all keen to snap up space in the complex.

Gerwyn Bryan, development consultant, said: "We want local retailers to be based under the apartments. Considering the speed with which the apartments were occupied, we don't foresee any difficulties filling the space."

The site will eventually comprise three tower blocks to house all the outlets and facilities.

Martin Rapley, chairman of developers Scotfield, said: "We are delighted with the progress of the scheme and the work that our appointed contractor, Shepherd Construction, has carried out. The interest in the apartments was phenomenal and many were purchased by investors, indicating the confidence in the scheme."

As a result of the successes of phases one and two, Scotfield are currently negotiating a building contract for phase three with a view to work commencing on-site in Spring 2006.

Not much new information, from leedsliveitloveit.com

please give your source Leeds No 1. YEP ?

brilliant news :)

please give your source Leeds No 1. YEP ?

We've now had the same article posted three times. No.1, The Oil and Da Bomb pretty much posted this simulataneously on Nov 29th!!!!!!

brilliant news :)

indeed - as Smoggie said on the Carey Jones thread, any info coming out of your interviews with Carey Jones would be much appreciated Gothic!!!!;)

We've now had the same article posted three times. No.1, The Oil and Da Bomb pretty much posted this simulataneously on Nov 29th!!!!!!

Yes I wish Leeds no 1 would read previous posts before rushing in to regurgigate old newspaper reports - however welcome their news !

One of the three cranes at the Gateway has been taken down over the last two days. The front block facing Kirkgate has moved incredibly quickly. I noticed the balcony fronts being put in place last night. Time for a few photos, I think.

Not alot to say really..... Gateway is coming along nicely. Window frames going in, and its really becoming quite dominant when viewed from the Eastgate end of town.

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/4402/img05307jq.jpg

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/2303/img05319bd.jpg

from Kirkgate Market carpark again, big old beast this, and its only the 11 storey hotel bit. Imagine a 26 storey tower peaking up from behind it. Yowsers.
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/3171/img05261sa.jpg

It's been a few weeks since Jimbo posted pics here so here goes

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/26%20Jan%202006/P1010048.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/26%20Jan%202006/P1010035.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/26%20Jan%202006/P1010041.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/26%20Jan%202006/P1010046.jpg

This last shot seems to show the whole development set on a raised podium, presumably to allow extensive car parking below ground. And, if you look at the end of building on the right of the development, you can see that four or five of the floors have been cut away. Is this to allow for an atrium?

Looking good, although I'm not sure about the raised podium, what is this being clad in? It's unclear from the render.

I suppose it must be an atrium- why else would a gap be left. I'm not sure what the podium will be clad in either, I would assume it is the same as the rest of the building but I don't know.

I suppose it must be an atrium- why else would a gap be left. I'm not sure what the podium will be clad in either, I would assume it is the same as the rest of the building but I don't know.

i don't think he meant 'what is the podium clad in?' i think he was asking what the whole building was clad in. i really don't know myself. it's green, it's clad in lots of green.

Oh right... I thought it was silver... coloured obviously lol

Another picture which doesn't really belong here is this one of East Street Mill. As you can see, the Gateway lies just beyond it and the Roberts Wharf development is just to the left of the photo. The mill has been gutted before being converted into flats. As an indication of the pace of development on the East Bank, the rough ground you can see in front of the mill is also scheduled for a development.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/26%20Jan%202006/P1010042.jpg

The Gateway from across the river and canal with the new bridge in the foreground. Tis a domineering site, and once the 26 storey tower appears, I reckon that'll be knocking on close to 80-85m high. Vunderba!

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/6283/img06103qv.jpg

any up dates on this huge development

According to earlier posts, the third phase should be starting in the near future. Whether the tower is part of it is debatable though, as there's been very little news about planning permission etc.

I've got visuals! But I can't show you them until I know it's safe.

Visuals including a tower?

I've got visuals! But I can't show you them until I know it's safe.

Get em posted Dibbers!!! :)

I've got visuals! But I can't show you them until I know it's safe.

argh! presumably Scotfield need to actually formally announce the 3rd stage and the revised planning app, which I'm sure hasn't gone in yet. The website:

Gateway Leeds (http://www.thegatewayleeds.com/)

doesn't seem to show the taller tower on its front page, but in the plan location element, the view along East Street does show a 25-26 storey tower. These renders/visuals look like yours Dibbers! Good job again.

Im sure you'll know, but theres a render of the tower on the wall of a pub across the road from the site, so they are still promoting it... whether or not its still going ahead idk, hope it does.

Gateway South and West are my visuals. The others (originals) were done by others.

I have one other montage taken from The other side of the bridge.

The first image was posted on this thread a while ago so I didn't bother posting it again and the second image isn't realy that imformative!

[URL=http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thegateway1amended5zh.jpg][IMG]http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1684/thegateway1amended5zh.th.jpg


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7421/thegateway2amended9eu.jpg

What tha Gateway does have going for it is the 'curves in the design'.
The 3rd phase hording boards are going up in the next couple of weeks, showing the 26 storey render, however no planning permission has been submitted

re: website - Not the most enticing promo video I've ever seen.

Just some updated constructions shots, looks like the cladding should start being put on soon m))

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/The%20Gateway%20Leeds%2007-04-06/gw3.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/The%20Gateway%20Leeds%2007-04-06/gw2.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/The%20Gateway%20Leeds%2007-04-06/gw1.jpg

Wasn't too sure where to post these pics. Not much info on this development, all the sign says is "Site acquired by Pierse for development of 154 luxury apartments". Anyone got any more info...renders?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/East%20Street%20Mill%2007-04-06/ESM1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/East%20Street%20Mill%2007-04-06/ESM2.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/East%20Street%20Mill%2007-04-06/ESM3.jpg

What is with this Jebus graphitti thing? Is it superimposed on all these photos or what?

Sorry if I've missed something.

Yes. basically. Just a tag put onto the image.

Wasn't too sure where to post these pics. Not much info on this development, all the sign says is "Site acquired by Pierse for development of 154 luxury apartments". Anyone got any more info...renders?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/East%20Street%20Mill%2007-04-06/ESM1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/East%20Street%20Mill%2007-04-06/ESM2.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/East%20Street%20Mill%2007-04-06/ESM3.jpg

Its the old East Street Mills. Haven't a clue what the final scheme will look like - don't seem to have seen any renders and a google search doesn't turn much up. Looks like they've gutted the old mill building and are grafting a new build element on to it. Hope its sympathetic to the original mill, which whilst not outstandingly attractive (like Roberts Mart/Banks Mills across the road), is still worthy of retention.

Great pics Jebus, welcome to the site! I hadn't realise that there was a new build element to East Street Mills. It generally seems to be a bit of a mystery development. Morgans were unsure about it when I spoke to them just after the new year which is very unusual as they seem to get involved in marketing most city centre apartments. Leads me to think that they may be rental flats done on behalf of an institutional investor.

Love the tag BTW Jebus, very Banksy/Arofishesque. I had to look for a bit to spot it on some of your recent photos! I'm a real fan of good urban graffiti, been getting into the Art of the State website recently.

About the Roberts Mart/Banks Mills development over the road Ive not heard of it being referred to Quay One before, is that what its called?! The rest of the development still seems to be gift wrapped, there's no renders on the website either (Morgans seem to be doing the marketing for this one though).

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/Quay%20One%2007-04-06/QO2.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/Quay%20One%2007-04-06/QO1.jpg

[QUOTE=Jebus]About the Roberts Mart/Banks Mills development over the road Ive not heard of it being referred to Quay One before, is that what its called?! The rest of the development still seems to be gift wrapped, there's no renders on the website either (Morgans seem to be doing the marketing for this one though).

This is a small development of only 5 flats. A few months ago I noted 11 separate developments of different sizes at varyious stages of planning/construction along the East Street corridor - including Gateway.

Surely you mean 5 floors not 5 flats?! It's a reasonable size floor plate that would mean 5 massive apartments!!
The hoardings are the same branding as Trinity One was - so probably by Nixon Metrolpolitan

Surely you mean 5 floors not 5 flats?! It's a reasonable size floor plate that would mean 5 massive apartments!!
The hoardings are the same branding as Trinity One was - so probably by Nixon Metrolpolitan

No I DO mean five flats - or apartments if you so wish to call them. Look at the hoarding in the photo in #100 (courtesy of Jebus)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/Quay%20One%2007-04-06/QO1.jpg
I really wasn't paying attention - it's obviously by Nixon Met. :doh:

However I still dispute that it's only 5 apartments - if you notice there's a letter missing in comtemporary that would indicate there's a number missing from in front of the '5'...I'm down there tomorrow will check it out.

http://www.nixonhomes.co.uk/metropolitan/developments/thumbnails/uno.jpg
This tiny render is all that's on the website and would appear to be a perspective from Neptune Street.

A stunning new residential development overlooking the River Aire, Quay One comprises 35 units with varying contemporary layouts appealing to the urban dweller. Silver metal cladding and translucent glazing, together with a striking stair tower and 'loggia' sun rooms provide a unique palette of ideas to the Leeds residential marketplace. Source (http://www.nixonhomes.co.uk/metropolitan/developments/index.html)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/save_mejebus/Quay%20One%2007-04-06/QO1.jpg
I really wasn't paying attention - it's obviously by Nixon Met. :doh:

However I still dispute that it's only 5 apartments - if you notice there's a letter missing in comtemporary that would indicate there's a number missing from in front of the '5'...I'm down there tomorrow will check it out.

You are right - their website does say 35 units .

http://www.nixonhomes.co.uk/metropolitan/developments/index.html

Quay One is the space between Trinity One and Fearne Island Mills, i.e. a small new build, not Roberts Mart.

Morgans are indeed marketing Roberts Mart, all sold off plan but there were a few resales available when I spoke to them in Jan. Pretty well priced as well, if I wasn't looking to buy in London, I'd be in like a shot.

The Gateway is starting to take shape and dominate that quarter of the centre now, I can start to see a potentially large and impressive building there now with some nice curves and features. I never liked it much from the renders, but I think the real thing will be something else (usually the other way round !)

Here's the new poster of the next phase, showing the 24/26 storey element of the project.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid205/pf416c5252bec834df1f3a95a9e54aa87/ef3a437b.jpg

Has the application been submitted for the new phase yet?

Latest renders for the Gateway

http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/7_gateway_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/6_gateway_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/5_gateway_410.jpg

...and the pleasantly surprising East Bank scheme.


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/3_east%20bank_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/4_east%20bank_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/2_east%20bank_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/1_east%20bank_410.jpg

Looks quite nice; nothing architecturally stunning but nice and simple, affordable?

...and the pleasantly surprising East Bank scheme.


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/3_east%20bank_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/4_east%20bank_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/2_east%20bank_410.jpg


http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/1_east%20bank_410.jpg

hmmm, the red brick facing East Street seems abit abrupt, for want of a better word. Prefer the inside aspects with the balconies and partial stripped wood cladding. So this is farther up from East Street Mills facing Rose Wharf (Carey Jones' headquarters) then? Bloody huge scheme eh, like the glass fronted block further south down the street. So Flax Place (or whatever it is called - the podium mounted block) is on the site between East Street Mills and the Chessboard, and the Echo (Barratts) is farther out along East Street still? Frick on a stick, that's a hell of alot of development!

Wonder if that central plaza is to be open to the public or gated off? Needs to be open, but the location isn't exactly salubrious if you know what I mean.

A quick look at the area we are talking about. Should be an excellent gatway to the city in 3 years time!

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/2429/img02634mu.jpg

I seldom approach Leeds in this direction (by the grace of God) but that picture really does give you a sense of what the project will be like. Looking forward to having a wonder around there....

A quick look at the area we are talking about. Should be an excellent gatway to the city in 3 years time!

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/2429/img02634mu.jpg


Don't forget there will be a superb 26 storey monster built where the crane is in the middle of this picture. What a gateway to the city from the new east Leeds radial road in a few years time

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Kesaph/SkyScrapers/Gateway1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Kesaph/SkyScrapers/Gateway2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Kesaph/SkyScrapers/Gateway3.jpg

great photos - tis really coming on. As skychaser says, the 26 storey tower will look epic standing at that site surrounded by so many other new developments. Its developing into a proper neighbourhood and once some of the long promised amenities come on line it'll make all the different.

A quick look at the area we are talking about. Should be an excellent gatway to the city in 3 years time!

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/2429/img02634mu.jpg

The area would look much better if they planted some trees down the middle of the road.

There's always someone who wants more isn't there!! :D

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The area would look much better if they planted some trees down the middle of the road.




There's lots of lovely dandylions at the side of the pavement, what more could you wish for except perhaps a great big 26 storey skyscraper. Trees are nice- skyscrapers are nicer!!

The area would look much better if they planted some trees down the middle of the road.

A remark which I think applies generally to Leeds city centre

It's such a simple thing that can make a big difference to even the most unsightly areas.

It's such a simple thing that can make a big difference to even the most unsightly areas.


Totally agree.

Now that the Etap chain of budget hotels are confirmed for this development, we can thank our lucky stars we didn't end up with an Etap hotel like the one in Birmingham!:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=352257

words fail me...................

words fail me...................

I think the phrase "thank your lucky stars" springs to mind. One can only hope the Birmingham hotel isn't on a prominent site like this one!

The first panels are starting to appear on the East Street side of the development. In a kind of duck egg blue, they seemed very attractive (just hope I don't live to eat my words) and provide a nice contrast to all the brickiness of the developments on the other side of the street.

Latest renders for the Gateway

http://www.careyjones.co.uk/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/7_gateway_410.jpg

hmm. The cladding looks a little bit different perhaps more matt in reality...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Kesaph/SkyScrapers/GatewayCladding2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Kesaph/SkyScrapers/GatewayCladding1.jpg

There's a polically incorrect name for that colour - spastic blue, owing to the fact that mental hospitals daubed every wall with this colour to 'Cheer up' the patients in the 1960's. After a couple of years worth of exhaust have settled on the cladding, I'm sure it'll be an aesthetic delight.

There's a polically incorrect name for that colour - spastic blue, owing to the fact that mental hospitals daubed every wall with this colour to 'Cheer up' the patients in the 1960's. After a couple of years worth of exhaust have settled on the cladding, I'm sure it'll be an aesthetic delight.

Was this cladding in the original designs approved - or can buildres/developers/architests change the cladding without approval ??

I'm sure they have to stick quite rigidly with what's approved. I know there have been many serious wrangles over the 'shade' of bricks on some much less significant buildings.

There's a polically incorrect name for that colour - spastic blue, owing to the fact that mental hospitals daubed every wall with this colour to 'Cheer up' the patients in the 1960's. After a couple of years worth of exhaust have settled on the cladding, I'm sure it'll be an aesthetic delight.

lol, absolutely, duck egg / baby blue cladding? Well, suppose its "different". With all these new schemes, proof of the pudding may be if the cladding is able to stand the test of time.

Council website has a new planning application in the 08/06/06 pdf file - don't seem to be able to select text but.....

06/02938/FU/C
The Gateway (Leeds) ltd

Amendment to previous permission 20/22/04/FU to form 22 additional flats and 2 floors of office space, to mixed use development.

The Gateway, East Street, Leeds 2
Carey Jones Architects, Rose Wharf, 78 East Street, Leeds, LS9 8EE

Call me crazy, but this must be the height increase of the tower looking out along East Street. 22 new flats, say 3 or 4 per floor in the tower gives about 7 more floors, and the 2 office floors + one plant floor could bring it up to the 26 or so counted on the new renders. Wunderbar. Expect them to start on this next phase pretty much as the current phase is completed, seems to have sold well, and the hotel anchor is lined up to open in Q3 this year.

I wondered that, but this application is for the Gateway North building, the proposed tall tower is the Gateway South building. My conclusion is that the application must be for internal alterations to what is already being built.

lol, absolutely, duck egg / baby blue cladding? Well, suppose its "different". With all these new schemes, proof of the pudding may be if the cladding is able to stand the test of time.

It looks similar to the cladding new Jimmy's block. I was wondering if there is anywhere in the city where these two blocks can be seen simultaneously?

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I wondered that, but this application is for the Gateway North building, the proposed tall tower is the Gateway South building. My conclusion is that the application must be for internal alterations to what is already being built.

bum, Jimbo raises his own expectations yet again but doesn't do his basic research groundwork :cry:

It looks similar to the cladding new Jimmy's block. I was wondering if there is anywhere in the city where these two blocks can be seen simultaneously?
Yes, from various points just south of the river, I noticed this as they are both showing up now (St james particularly prominent now) and thought it is going to look more than coincidental from some aspects.

I like the cladding on the low rise block, it looks quite funky on a small scale, although, it may look odd if this is cladding the tower, which it looks like it will be doing. Looks like we're going to have a 26 storey 'spastic blue' tower greeting visitors. I'd like to see it on a sunny day, see if it shines a bit more.

On the brighter side, it will look like nothing else in the country, and it's better than terracotta.

What material is the cladding? Plastic, painted metal?

Was this cladding in the original designs approved - or can buildres/developers/architests change the cladding without approval ??

When I did the renders, it was definately a glazed/glossy finish to the cladding (hence the strong reflections), but went passed it today and it looks a matt finish.

Ah, that could be the exhaust fumes working their magic already. I have to say that although I approve of a bit of artistic license, it could end up looking horrendous, especially with the aforementioned coating of exhaust, coupled with a grey sky.....

Ah, that could be the exhaust fumes working their magic already. I have to say that although I approve of a bit of artistic license, it could end up looking horrendous, especially with the aforementioned coating of exhaust, coupled with a grey sky.....

Assuming yoiu are not joking about exhaust fumes, they cannot be the cause as they would not affect the surfaces evenly - as seems to be the case.

I fear that in 15 to 20 years time this Jolly Green Giant will look some what dated. The question I ask myself is will they clad the 26 storey Tower in this colour. It'll be some Gateway that's for sure, maybe the PP should be thrown out until they can find the missing silver/metallic cladding that appears on the renders?

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I fear that in 15 to 20 years time this Jolly Green Giant will look some what dated. The question I ask myself is will they clad the 26 storey Tower in this colour. It'll be some Gateway that's for sure, maybe the PP should be thrown out until they can find the missing silver/metallic cladding that appears on the renders?

The question I raised before is: was this silver/metallic cladding in the design approved by the planning committee ? Can anyone let us know, and if not originally approved what can be done about it ?

Well in theroy if the contruction differs from the approved plan then it comes down or is corrected. However I wager this cladding is as per the pp, and render was never amended. If you look at the render it has a green hint to it, so it could just be "sexed up". I reality it's here to stay, they could always put retrospective Planning in if it becomes an issue. Do you think anyone in local goverment is going to create an issue when the project is sold out, think of the delay of all that council tax while they re-clad. Ain't never going to happen. It's not a bad colour for phase 1 and 2, just 26 storey's of it, not sure.

I would be very suprised if this was the colour of the 26 story section. Normally, I would suggest, architects would introduce a change in material/cladding to accentuate the different parts and lines of a building a la BWP - portland stone to the horizontal, anodised aluminium to the vertical.
To have a development of this size, all in in one mode would be a little short sighted IMO. I don't think CJA would create something like that.

Well 'work is about to start on phase 3' according to the latest council economic bulletin. that is 300 apartments.

So far, the North (144 apts) and West (112 apts) buildings have been built (256 apts as mentioned in the bulletin), the West (112 apts) and South (110 apts, 26 storeys) are yet to start.

I would be very suprised if this was the colour of the 26 story section. Normally, I would suggest, architects would introduce a change in material/cladding to accentuate the different parts and lines of a building a la BWP - portland stone to the horizontal, anodised aluminium to the vertical.
To have a development of this size, all in in one mode would be a little short sighted IMO. I don't think CJA would create something like that.

Top 3 storey are a zinc type material

the renders show that the tower has the same cladding...... aha!

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9153/img08522uk.jpg

whether it is intentional or not, but the cladding on Gateway matches nicely with St James's new Oncology Centre (captured handily here by your friendly neighbourhood Jimbo)
http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/9019/img08507kb.jpg

To the credit of the cladding, even on a gloomy day, it still looks bright and colourful.

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To the credit of the cladding, even on a gloomy day, it still looks bright and colourful.

So does vomit ;)

So does vomit ;)

aha, your south of the river roots betraying you there old fruit!

aha, your south of the river roots betraying you there old fruit!

You dissing my Bermondsey 'hood Jimbo? :D

Much as I loath coloured cladding I think the turquoise cladding could look OK on a smaller building, but to cover a huge expanse of building with such a strong colour is far too much, it looks hideous already IMO and I fear it will age very badly.

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More cladding coming up, and I think it looks quite nice - bright and different.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/402/gateway10ot.jpg

Especially next to neighbouring terracota.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8205/gateway26tk.jpg

Absolutely love it from this angle. Nice reference to my favourite building in Leeds.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8324/iron28it.jpg

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Leeds Bridge House always reminds me of the Flat Iron Building in Manhattan -0 though it's a much smaller version.

Leeds Bridge House always reminds me of the Flat Iron
Building in Manhattan -0 though it's a much smaller version.

Am I right in saying Bridge House pre-dates the NY building?

http://www.chinesewhispers.info/flatiron-large.jpg

i like the shape and love the renders of the tower (the gateway im talking about) but i think this green cladding looks too much like jimmy's.

I'm quite liking the cladding so far... Will be interesting to see the full effect once complete. Although I'm a little worried I'll be moaning on here in 15years wishing for a reclad of that awful green building that is SO turn of the century!?!

Am I right in saying Bridge House pre-dates the NY building?

http://www.chinesewhispers.info/flatiron-large.jpg

perfect, absolutely perfect. The Flatiron Building has been shrouded in scaffolding and plastic the last 2 times I've visited NYC which was rather irksome. But then you're never short of viewing pleasure over there. :cool:

The green cladding is bold, daring, different, and I've not made my mind up yet. Interestingly it might balance the brown crud of Merchants Quay across the road (and to be fair Trinity 1 and Turlow Court (the little blocks in between Merchants Quay and the Yorkshire Water office).

Let's wait till its finished eh team! And, better get used to it, plenty more to come on the rest of the scheme.

The green cladding is bold, daring, different, and I've not made my mind up yet. Interestingly it might balance the brown crud of Merchants Quay across the road (and to be fair Trinity 1 and Turlow Court (the little blocks in between Merchants Quay and the Yorkshire Water office).

Let's wait till its finished eh team! And, better get used to it, plenty more to come on the rest of the scheme.

Well, I know it's not yet finished but I'm liking it so far in the way it offsets all that brickiness in those riverside developments, especially Merchants Quay ("brown crud" is a very generous assessment of it).


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/4%20July%202006/P1010035.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/4%20July%202006/P1010041.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/4%20July%202006/P1010035.jpg


I think the 'chessboard' building looks ok from this angle, contrasted with the bricks and the green. At least it tries to be something different! Obviously you only want one like it in any city but I think it's ok - I don't love it but I like the fact it is different...

I think the 'chessboard' building looks ok from this angle, contrasted with the bricks and the green. At least it tries to be something different! Obviously you only want one like it in any city but I think it's ok - I don't love it but I like the fact it is different...

I was waiting for a long time when they will start the cladding, untill I realised they've already done it! I thought then WTF - still can not believe it was designed/approved/built this way.

At the risk of sounding adolescently impatient, isn't it time we saw a start being made to the second phase of this development?


http://www.careyjones.com/images/upload/arch_res_lrg/6_gateway_410.jpg


The last crane of the four that were originally there is coming down as we speak, the glazing and cladding on the buildings of the first phase are being blu-tacked into place but there's diddly squat happening to prepare the ground for the next phase. It was Rob who reported a month ago that work was about to start on this.

I'm a huge fan of the cladding. I think it looks great! Fresh, bright and different. Breaks up the monotony of that area of town. I went for a walk down that end of town in my lunch break, and dare I say it, it's beginning to feel like a part of the city centre at last... :runaway:

Subliving.

I'm a huge fan of the cladding. I think it looks great! Fresh, bright and different. Breaks up the monotony of that area of town. I went for a walk down that end of town in my lunch break, and dare I say it, it's beginning to feel like a part of the city centre at last... :runaway:

Subliving.


I often walk around there, as I did this a.m. What is a building site completely surrounded by busy roads does not in the least feel like part of the city centre to me.

Moreover, on reflection, even when the development is completed it will always be cut off from the city centre by intervening roads - there is no real connection for pedestrians and there will be no compelling reason for them to make any effort to go there unless they live in its apartments or work in its offices.

Perhaps this area should be called the Jazzy Quarter!

I often walk around there, as I did this a.m. What is a building site completely surrounded by busy roads does not in the least feel like part of the city centre to me.

Moreover, on reflection, even when the development is completed it will always be cut off from the city centre by intervening roads - there is no real connection for pedestrians and there will be no compelling reason for them to make any effort to go there unless they live in its apartments or work in its offices.

It's a very short walk to the bars and outlets that surround the corn exchange, and indeed the city. You only have to cross two roads which have more pedestrian crossing than the rest of the city combined. I thinks it's an ok location, nicely on the edge of the city(at the moment). Also there's the Palace pub as a local. I'd be more concerned about the ambulance station over the road on Richmond Hill. 24 hours of Nee Nor nee nor!!

It's a very short walk to the bars and outlets that surround the corn exchange, and indeed the city. You only have to cross two roads which have more pedestrian crossing than the rest of the city combined. I thinks it's an ok location, nicely on the edge of the city(at the moment). Also there's the Palace pub as a local. I'd be more concerned about the ambulance station over the road on Richmond Hill. 24 hours of Nee Nor nee nor!!


Ah, I see, city centre life to you is all pubs and bars. Sorry mate, there is (or should be) more to it than that .

Ah, I see, city centre life to you is all pubs and bars. Sorry mate, there is (or should be) more to it than that .

I agree with Fred in that the roads are really rather congested and overbearing, the 2-3 lane approach to Crown Point Bridge and the 2 lane East Street are certainly not the pleasing on the eye, or even on the feet when you have to dash across them. It is still only 5 mins walk from Kirkgate (yikes!), Call Lane and the bottom of Briggate. That surely is still a major attraction, and perhaps in some way why the amenities are not there yet. Simply its too close and convenient to the city centre to need an independent convenience store.......

that said, clearly bars and clubs are not the be all and end all, but with the developments at Clarence Dock i think we have a nucleus for the amenities that are required for a proper community dynamic. The developers at Gateway are vocal on its provision of things like a nursery and dry cleaners etc etc. I think its a matter of time, and as I've said before, 'critical mass'. Once there are enough residents to support it, the amenities (doctors surgery, dentists, coffee shop, convenience store etc) all follow. Again, look at the time its taken for Simpsons on Dock Street and the food places at Brewery Wharf to actually embed themselves and start trading...... years!

And to echo aviator, I want some tower action!

The developers at Gateway are vocal on its provision of things like a nursery and dry cleaners etc etc. I think its a matter of time, and as I've said before, 'critical mass'. Once there are enough residents to support it, the amenities (doctors surgery, dentists, coffee shop, convenience store etc) all follow.

That's good to hear - but does that represent the sort of amenities you expect in the city centre or an extension of it ?? I think not - that's local community stuff.

That's good to hear - but does that represent the sort of amenities you expect in the city centre or an extension of it ?? I think not - that's local community stuff.

argggh!, what are we arguing here exactly? It doesn't need the same amenities as the city centre, mainly as the city centre itself is on the doorstep and 5 mins walkaway!!?!?!

It needs basic facilities (as already alluded to) + a newsagents etc, to give it some degree (small though it might be) of self sufficiency, that's all. If CD gets a GAP, Waterstones and Starbucks, all the better for it, but its clearly a residential extension of the city and therefore requires ancillary facilities to help it function as such, and give it a vague semblance of a community for the residents who are setting up home there.

I'm off to bed, too much thinking for one night for Jimbo, spent most of my day sat at a computer and will be buggered if I'm going to engage in further virtual discourse with an 0800 breakfast meetings looming. Night all.

argggh!, what are we arguing here exactly? It doesn't need the same amenities as the city centre, mainly city centreas the city centre itself is on the doorstep and 5 mins walkaway!!?!?!


Sorry to be the cause of mental overload for you, jimbo. You are absolutely right that it doesn't need the same facilities as the city centre. I was just replying to Subliving's suggestion in #169 that "it's beginning to feel like a part of the city centre at last... " !

I would still describe it as the inner city, but definetley an unconventional inner city that reflects the wealth of the city centre affecting the inner city.

Some of the traffic should be diverted by the inner ring road completion, which could warrant the narrowing of some of the roads, or at least the improvement of them by putting in more traffic islands, central reservations with flowerbeds, grassed areas, trees. For example, Crown Point Bridge is just surfaced completely over- no central reservation. They could stick a reservation on there with trees to improve the look and feel of the area, and reduce the effect of roads sprawling round it. Tbh, for the size of the roads, the amount of traffic isn't that much! It's never completely bumper-bumper or anything.

I would still describe it as the inner city, but definetley an unconventional inner city that reflects the wealth of the city centre affecting the inner city.

Some of the traffic should be diverted by the inner ring road completion, which could warrant the narrowing of some of the roads, or at least the improvement of them by putting in more traffic islands, central reservations with flowerbeds, grassed areas, trees. For example, Crown Point Bridge is just surfaced completely over- no central reservation. They could stick a reservation on there with trees to improve the look and feel of the area, and reduce the effect of roads sprawling round it. Tbh, for the size of the roads, the amount of traffic isn't that much! It's never completely bumper-bumper or anything.

Some strange suggestions here No. 1 !

Well, geographically, as opposed to say, Seacroft, it is inner city. That doesn't by any stretch of the imagination make it an extension of the city centre and all that that implies.

As for your traffic plans, I doubt whther the city fathers or motorists would welcome your proposed changes !

Why would it be welcomed at first!? Everyone wants big, fast roads to drive their big, fast cars. Well stuff them, they should start using the buses and trains. If you can't encourage them to get off the roads, then force them off!

Why would it be welcomed at first!? Everyone wants big, fast roads to drive their big, fast cars. Well stuff them, they should start using the buses and trains. If you can't encourage them to get off the roads, then force them off!

Well, that's one school of thought. Obviously not one that would be welcomed by your average commuter or business owner in the city! I think you forgot to mention the carrot that needs to go with the stick you're proposing, that carrot being decent public transport.

I want to emphasise that the public transport I'm talking about is one that will deliver people at rush hour from where they live and back again in an environment that is clean, safe, regular and reliable, and where they will not be packed like sardines inside a rather smelly tin. Put something like that in place, and I think you'll find many people won't need to be coerced out of their cars.

Oh, and your suggestion of trees on Crown Point Bridge? Bad idea! Even small trees put down quite deep roots.

Yes but you can have box trees like on Millennium Square!

Anyway, I agree, you need public transport, but this is right on the edge of the city centre- people can walk everywhere around here. All the traffic here is thoroughfare traffic, that can be diverted by the inner ring road, on completion. They could have another free city bus route around this area- link up the city centre with Clarence Dock via The Gateway and the East Bank schemes.

Yes but you can have box trees like on Millennium Square!

Anyway, I agree, you need public transport, but this is right on the edge of the city centre- people can walk everywhere around here. All the traffic here is thoroughfare traffic, that can be diverted by the inner ring road, on completion. They could have another free city bus route around this area- link up the city centre with Clarence Dock via The Gateway and the East Bank schemes.


Oh dear again No. 1. People can walk ? Society now goes to enormous lengths to cater for the blind and disabled and now you want to force them all to walk to Gateway. For what ? I can almost guarantee that when John Lewis opens on Eastgate there will be plenty of people who consider it is too far out from all the other shops.

Oh dear again No. 1. People can walk ? Society now goes to enormous lengths to cater for the blind and disabled and now you want to force them all to walk to Gateway. For what ? I can almost guarantee that when John Lewis opens on Eastgate there will be plenty of people who consider it is too far out from all the other shops.

Fred2 reading your coments on this forum it strikes me that perhaps you'd be better of finding a small village forum, where you can debate the opening times of the local post office or the price of bread in the local bakers. Leeds is a large city in a developed nation, it has busy roads, tall buildings(that may or may not fit into the planned footprint) and yep you may have to cover distance to get from one end to the other. I think you have an over romantic view of how a modern city should be developed, either that or your some kind of forum subversive. If its the latter then hats off to you your doing a grand job.

Sorry to be to the point I've got a stinking headache.

Fred2 reading your coments on this forum it strikes me that perhaps you'd be better of finding a small village forum, where you can debate the opening times of the local post office or the price of bread in the local bakers. Leeds is a large city in a developed nation, it has busy roads, tall buildings(that may or may not fit into the planned footprint) and yep you may have to cover distance to get from one end to the other. I think you have an over romantic view of how a modern city should be developed, either that or your some kind of forum subversive. If its the latter then hats off to you your doing a grand job.

Sorry to be to the point I've got a stinking headache.


I suggest a couple of paracetamols.

You obviously were not well enough to inderstand what No.1 wrote and the substance of my reply to him. I won't bother to enlighten you - it's too hot.

Just been reading in TheTimes about positive deviation, a concept from which an American guru must be making a killing. Maybe I am the positive deviant on this forum ! :cheers:

I suggest a couple of paracetamols.

You obviously were not well enough to inderstand what No.1 wrote and the substance of my reply to him. I won't bother to enlighten you - it's too hot.

Just been reading in TheTimes about positive deviation, a concept from which an American guru must be making a killing. Maybe I am the positive deviant on this forum ! :cheers:


Positive deviant, a person who's behaviour surpasses the conventional behaviour of society around them. So much so It can be seen to be deviant behaviour, but in fact has postive intention. Often a modern label attached to Saints, Geniuses and dare I say Jesus? One of many views of the meaning of Positive Deviant. Just in case, please don't strike me Down Fred 2, I'll never question you again. Oh and I have a auntie who is slightly cross eyed could you do anything for that my Lord.

That'll be $50, have a nice day. :angel1:

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What cladding will be on this building? same as the other?

I wish they would demolish that ugly chess board building ASAP

The chessboard building is gorgeous, I won't hear a bad word said about it.

Even so, its hardly gonna get demolished considering its new. Surely thats an icon of Leeds anyway! Or a future icon... If it was done more expensive- like chessboard in granite, it could be really good!

On the contrary, I think it would look tacky in granite. It would look like some over indulged 1980's post modern effort. The alluminium cladding is perfect.

Personally i think it looks foul! But my taste may be questionable as i think City Island is a decent enough development!

[QUOTE=Leeds_John]What cladding will be on this building? same as the other?


It already has cladding on it behind the scaffolding!
It's a very light beige colour.

I like City Island- it can get away with the terracotta because if its dimensions and the rooves and penthouses stepping up. If it was straight rather than curved and flat rooved it would be terrible.

skopie im with you i like the chessboard bld its cool and very individual reminds me off many building ive seen in the netherlands, cool and a good addition, but very much a talking point with split opinions about its merits, leeds all the better for it

Well at least it gets people talking about the fabric of the city.

It already has cladding on it behind the scaffolding!
It's a very light beige colour.[/QUOTE]

The beige cladding is in tile format maybe 300mm x 200mm similar to that disgusting building near the O2 call centre. Basically another variation, very similar indeed to terracotta tiles.
Im not a fan currently, this building facing the city centre an important gateway site from every direction!

A couple of shots of the Gateway:


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I drove along East Street towards the city centre this afternoon and all the construction work on the go made think of Jimbo's oft-repeated complaint about the Gateway site being little more than a glorified traffic island. The developers are trying to increase the separation of the site from the surrounding traffic by raising it on a podium (presumably with a very large semi-basement car park) but what about the sense of being separated by traffic from the rest of the city? Gateway itself will have over 600 flats, Roberts Wharf and East Bank Mills will have about 200 each, and Echo will have (I think) 160 flats.

These are only the developments under construction but it gives us around 1200 flats being built along East Street. If we accept the council's reckoning of about 1.5 residents per flat once they're completed, then we can expect around 3000 new residents living on East Street. If you then add the other developments being proposed for East Street (Lowfold, Flax Place, etc), then the numbers could potentially more than double.

The two issues to be addressed will then be the local amenities and traffic/connectivity issues. The first, I assume, will catered for by the developers and canny entrepreneurs but the second can only be addressed by the planning authority.

What I'm not sure of is the extent to which construction of the next phase of the inner ring road will take traffic away from East Street. We're all assuming it will continue to be a major route into and around the city centre but are we correct in that assumption? I'd be grateful for some guidance on this one.

.............What I'm not sure of is the extent to which construction of the next phase of the inner ring road will take traffic away from East Street. We're all assuming it will continue to be a major route into and around the city centre but are we correct in that assumption? I'd be grateful for some guidance on this one....................

Rest assured that East Street will get even busier when the last part of the Inner Ring Road and the new East Leeds Link Road are completed, both scheduled for 2008. See my comments in #170 in reply to Subliving's suggestion that Gateway is beginning to feel like part of the city centre.

made think of Jimbo's oft-repeated complaint about the Gateway site being little more than a glorified traffic island.

oih, you cheeky tyke! No fair, I might have made that comment once or twice over the past year, but can't compare with the once, twice.... ad nauseam comments made about the size of Lumiere towers site etc! ;)

That said, I stand by my comments. Not in a month of Sundays would I wish to live in the Gateway (unless I was at the top of tower). Whilst the development in its totality is fine, I just think its a strange site bounded by by busy roads on a sides.

Good photo updates again old fruit!

oih, you cheeky tyke! No fair, I might have made that comment once or twice over the past year, but can't compare with the once, twice.... ad nauseam comments made about the size of Lumiere towers site etc! ;)

That said, I stand by my comments. Not in a month of Sundays would I wish to live in the Gateway (unless I was at the top of tower). Whilst the development in its totality is fine, I just think its a strange site bounded by by busy roads on a sides.....

Sorry matey, I didn't want to give the impression you were a serial ranter :jk:
But you have made a serious point about the setting of these developments. Gateway is probably the most exposed but there are also traffic problems with the other East Street developments, as well as the proposal for the Yorkshire Chemicals sites either side of Black Bull Street. The question is how do you mitigate the effects of all this traffic?

Sorry matey, I didn't want to give the impression you were a serial ranter :jk:
But you have made a serious point about the setting of these developments. Gateway is probably the most exposed but there are also traffic problems with the other East Street developments, as well as the proposal for the Yorkshire Chemicals sites either side of Black Bull Street. The question is how do you mitigate the effects of all this traffic?

As a serial ranter myself - I still think the Wellington Street site is too small for TWO Lumiere towers - I agree that there are traffic problems for all the proposed developments on East Street. Furthermore East Street is set to become even busier after 2008.

Not news really, but the Carey Jones website entry for Gateway has been updated with images including the tower .. a good omen I think.

As a serial ranter myself - I still think the Wellington Street site is too small for TWO Lumiere towers - I agree that there are traffic problems for all the proposed developments on East Street. Furthermore East Street is set to become even busier after 2008.

right on cue, evening Fred2! Can't keep a good bloke down!

It will be an interesting test of the hotel market with the Etap hotel opening a couple of months after the CD Holiday Inn Express. I'd suspect if they are fairly budget then stag dos and hen nights may be the order of the way. Beware of girls with angels wings, clearly misrepresentation of the highest order.

A few pictures from today

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Notice here an interesting tent-like thing on the roof.

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Just loving that colour. It's just so refreshing! I can't wait to see the whole thing completed.

Subliving.

Yes, the colour is great. not usually a fan of blue (personal taste, but the light colour really brightens up the area and goes well witth the red brick of the other buildings. Not so sure about the tent though

Sainsbury's delivery truck says it all about local amenities (i.e. the lack of them). Also noticed a few people with Morrisons (!!!) bags. Must be a few miles away.

Does look good this development though provided such cladding is only restricted to one or two buildings then it should appear of a high quality with an interesting cladding and are there pictures of the Etap hotel element of this as I read thankfully that it won't have the standard style but was wondering how it would look on its own? Also is it just going to have that hotel or would there be other facilities such as a pub or convenience store and how many pelican crossings are surrounding this development for access purposes to here?

By the way that Sainsburys van is parked illegally as it is parked on a double yellow line. ;)

Starting to look good, the green cladding is slightly reflective which will add some good lighting effects with different skies.

In the last two photos, the concrete core looks a bit undeveloped and bare, is it part of the next phase which should join up in that position ? Perhaps they had to build it early due to it's close proximity to the finished first phase.

Ooh yeah, I love the colour of that building. Done properly, this sort of development can really add to our cityscapes. Done badly however it looks desperately embarrassing. Hope this turns out to be the former.

They are taking off scaffolding from part of Gateway West, should be off in a day or two. But you already can see the colour, and I am not quite sure about, looks a bit different from the renders we've seen before.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8164/gatewayym3.jpg

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/Calls_Lge_3.jpg

They are taking off scaffolding from part of Gateway West, should be off in a day or two. But you already can see the colour, and I am not quite sure about, looks a bit different from the renders we've seen before.


I'd have to see it in the flesh to reserve judgement, but if the tiles are a similar style and gloss level, the colour contrast could look good, depending on how they go together and what they are like in different lighting.

I'd have to see it in the flesh to reserve judgement, but if the tiles are a similar style and gloss level, the colour contrast could look good, depending on how they go together and what they are like in different lighting.

Yes we need to wait a few days - it's hard to say just yet, but they seem quite matt today (fairly sunny morning).

Im very impressed with this building in the development, the other one seems oddly to be covered in ply-wood!

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I noticed that, and thought it very odd indeed! I'm going toi sound like an absolute fool for saying this, I'm sure, but surely it's a temporary covering to protect what will eventully be underneath the cladding?

Subliving.

From a distance the ply-wood looks an interesting cladding, though not close up, but it will be just temporary, but ive never seen it used in such a way before, i wonder what it is hiding!?!

Really liking this development, progressing along well. Any info on the next phrase (tower)? It does need the tower to bring it together.

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I had no idea this was U/C, is it just the tower to build now or has it started already?
Don't really know the area but is this near Calrence Dock?

I thought I'd never find it on the last one.

Is this not this or am i getting confused? :crazy2: :drool:

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This is that but that hasn't been built yet

When is construction due to start on the tower and has prepatory work been done for the tower element or has nothing been done yet?

Nothing yet. No idea when it will.

Had a walk round Gateway yesterday. The main building facing west (is it to be the hotel?) now has its scaffolding off. To me, it looks very bland and no better than the much maligned but 40 year old Merrion Centre building.

It would appear the tower element is no longer taking place. The slightly raised part of the build is exactly the same as it appears in that render, just substantially shorter. Very underwhelming.

It would appear the tower element is no longer taking place. The slightly raised part of the build is exactly the same as it appears in that render, just substantially shorter. Very underwhelming.

Are you sure about this ? The tower is supposed to be part of the next phase of building at the far eastern end of the site.

The tower isn't located there,it will be further round towards East Street where there is an undeveloped void on the site, a space where the tower is due to go. it should therefore still be in the masterplan. The bit that is being completed has been in the scheme from the beginning, before the tower was even announced.

The tower isn't located there,it will be further round towards East Street where there is an undeveloped void on the site, a space where the tower is due to go. it should therefore still be in the masterplan. The bit that is being completed has been in the scheme from the beginning, before the tower was even announced.




Thats right- the tower will be at the most \eastern edge of the development where the construction buildings are currently situated.

Good, that is good news. Still have to say that the colour is appalling and that it will age VERY quickly, and with little grace.....

I have taken a look at Gateway. I thinkk this is an excellent building and ideal for the location. This really is an interesting building for people to see on this appproach to Leeds and gives a very modern and exciting feel to that area. I believe the tower will go ahead and will really finish this off.

I know people want perfection all the time, but it could still be Howarth Timber!!!

I'm liking it more and more as it completes, I like the green tiles which have a reasonable gloss level, and the contrasting buff and linear window lines of the hotel block now completing. The glazed two storey units sat between the raised podium level and the the upper levels are great, they are different shapes, one is oval, another is rectangular and all with sloping fully glazed facades.

The tower is designed to match in with the current built design, it is quite a unique identity style for the whole scheme with the curved green mid levels and the metallic top levels. Leeds needs strong charactered whole large developemnts like this with strong style and identity to counteract the number of routine standard building designs going up all around, and the 'East End' of the city seems to be the place where the more characterful designs are focusing on.

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The latest from the Gateway:


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/15%20Sept%202006/P1010217.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/15%20Sept%202006/P1010210.jpg


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I can't agree with Liam about the colour of this building; I think it makes a refreshing contrast to the surround brickwork (see the first pic). However, it will be important to ensure it remains clean and fresh-looking. As for the hotel, the jury's out for me. While it seems a bit grey at the moment, it may end up looking quite cool in an understated way (at least when compared with its turquoise neighbour).



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The metal top looks a bit odd, it needs to be double storey i think... and as for the hotel, or whatever it is, the cladding is very poor, but thankfully they havent overdone it with that bland colour but it could be a lot better! im looking forward to see how they do with the big block still covered in scaffolding!

Good news.....there's a large drilling rig on the Gateway site. But (as I suspect) is there another phase of this project between what is currently under construction and the tower (which would explain why we haven't seen a planning application for the tower yet)?

Good news indeed Mike, but I think you're right that there is another block to be built apart from the tower. How that is phased remains to be seen.

Good news indeed Mike, but I think you're right that there is another block to be built apart from the tower. How that is phased remains to be seen.

great photos aviator - the greyish cladding on the top event looks more shiny and metallic than I originally thought. I like the curved glass effects in the office / commercial element at the bottom.

Brown brickwork on the hotel? Arrgh. Don't like. Looks like a dated 1980s office block already? Who's with me?

Can't actually grab any of the photos from the website the image on the front page here http://www.thegatewayleeds.com/ shows two further blocks decreasing in size down towards East Street. The tower seems to be the final element, completely independent from the rest of the scheme. Looks like they are saving the best till last.

Ooooh, lots of new functions for SSC - perhaps the crap connectivity over the past few weeks has been worth it? My god, bullet points! Holy cow!

There is a piling rig on site working in the area of the tower, but the diameter of the auger does not look big enough to be sinking the piles for a tower. Does anyone know what it is up too?

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There is a piling rig on site working in the area of the tower, but the diameter of the auger does not look big enough to be sinking the piles for a tower. Does anyone know what it is up too?

Anyone been down recently to look whats going on?

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Anyone been down recently to look whats going on?

There's not really much to add, really. The turquoise apartment block is almost finished (see the pics further up in the thread), and I thought I saw some deck furniture on a couple of the balconies so I assume people are moving in. The piling is going in on the other side of the site - by the way, that's not for the tower. That will be built at the end of the site nearest to Roberts Wharf and will, presumably, the last part of the development to go up. If there's any decent weather next week, I'll try to get down there with my camera.

The site today:


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Note the soil starting to appear to create the landscaped banking which will, hopefully, mitigate the effects of having your flat at the edge of a race track.


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I think I must have been a Stalinist in a previous life because I like this hotel.

Actually, one the scaffold is removed from the taller section, I think the hotel will look fantastic. I think it's a balance thing, looks a bit dull now, but when the balance of the tall bit is shown... oh, I don't know. Can't wait to see though!

Subliving.

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Great pictures aviator. I must say I had my doubts, but I really like the turquoise cladding, and the scheme in general looks pretty good. The tower will finish things off nicely.
All this colour makes me think the scheme looks very "dutch", they seem to use alot of colour in their modern architecture, and maybe thats the way Leeds will go over the next few years.

is the concrete base going up on the right hand side of the second picture the 20 storey tower?

is the concrete base going up on the right hand side of the second picture the 20 storey tower?

No, that's the second phase of residential blocks. The tower will sit at the far left of that 2nd photo. Thought there would be piling / groundwork equipment on site for the next phase, but clearly not according to that photo. the 3rd photo shows the white and grey residential block which I think will be repeated twice, stepping upwards gradually towards the site of the tower on the corner of East Street.

Now its all done, the turquoise cladding does look rather fine. I just wonder how it will age / stain etc. The white bits on the first 2 phases of Clarence Dock are looking distinctly grubby now.

aviator, stalinist indeed. Back to the Gulag with you if you're a fan of that one. A Day in the Life of Aviator Denisovitch! Hurrah.

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