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gleegie July 24th, 2005, 09:16 PM Parkhead Cross/Forge shopping centre. The houses up the hill look smart. the towes over the hill must be East Kilbride?
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Long avenues + hills = great views.
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Cathedral.
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Alexandra parade
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Cheap, but strangely nice housing dev.
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Royal Infirmary
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The old infirmary building will eventually be converted to flats.
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Toryglen
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Necropolis
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The concrete wall in the background must be 15 miles away. It's down around Pollok.
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An old tobacco factory has been converted to office space.
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gleegie July 24th, 2005, 09:52 PM Tallest blocks in the city and boy do they look in bad nick. That's verde U/C by the way. Queen's Park in the background.
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Oppressive townhead blocks.
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crusty_bint July 24th, 2005, 10:24 PM Ooh, cool pics Gleegie! Am fae ra easht end masel :) That "concrete wall" is Moss Heights down at Cardonald, the first high-rises to be built by GCC back in the day, and funnily enough, those other blocks in Cardonald with the daft green neon stip down theside of each were the last to be built by GCC ...how interestin eh? You can bore the liver out of all your pals with that little nugget ;)
The copper dome of the former Glasgow Savings Bank in your first pic is probably the building that first sparked my interest in Architecture (the conservation aspect only developed in later years through my disdain for what had been allowed to happen to the city), must be 6 or 7 (poss. 8) stories of soaring grandeur! Parkhead cross as a whole is pretty special, altho a smidge run down, and could hold its own against any of the city's burgheral crosses. Its also Glasgows newest Conservation Area ...better late that never I suppose.
Cheers,
Crusty :)
gleegie July 24th, 2005, 10:31 PM The east end (what's left of it) is fantastic. it's as well built as the west, I remember a very impressive tenemental crescent running opposite Tollcross park.
Just a shame the people seem as run down as the buildings.
gleegie July 24th, 2005, 10:42 PM This was the only derelict tenement I saw, rest had been refurbed.
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Lots of Glasgow's schools are closing or merging.
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Sandstone avenue.
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The Boy David July 24th, 2005, 10:48 PM Phwaarr Gleegie great pics there!
Its crazy how some of the stuff in the East End is up to the same par as the West End, but in stark contrast, is surrounded by some of the most ruthless gang warfare, poverty and crime in Europe....
Its a strange place, when you think about it.
Thanks for the class pics though :)
crusty_bint July 24th, 2005, 10:51 PM I know the one you mean, quite run down, but wally closes none-the-less! Tollcross was once quite an affluent little place, kept ticking over by the Dunlop family (who built Tollcross Mansion and live on today in the tyre brand) fortune and industries and Beardmore to an extent.
It started going wrong for the East End ...I was going to say after WWII, but really it was since its annexation by Glasgow in 1919ish, really the same story as Shettleston, Parkhead, Calton, Bridgeton, Dalmarnock etc. It wasn't that long afterwards the industries started closing, and with thier closure the demolition crews moved in. Then nothing. For nearly half a century: nothing.
The "schemes" started to be thrown up in the late 1950s and any sense of community that was left in the old centres of the East was gradually watered down and dissipated with the arrival of dis-jointed families plonked in schemes where fields once stood, instead of filling in the gaps left in the townscape by the departue of industrywhich are mostly still there today) and no-one knew anyone.
So nae joab, nae pals, nae chance! Shame really. Although I would say that its the same story all over Glasgow, and probably the same run down people; only the East End doesn't have many affluent folk to dilute the figures.
I havn't really explained myself properly :S I agree with you though... I couldnt wait to get away from it!
M_Riaz July 24th, 2005, 11:33 PM Fantastic pics Gleegie :).
its right what you say about the run down of the area Crusty, when the GEAR was set up in the east end in the 80s it only concentrated mostly on clearing areas and putting up cheap housing, no consideration was really given to bring in major industrys to the area, i hope they give the east the same treatment as they are presently giving to the south and the clyde corridor in the comming years as regards to industry and commerce,which would benefit the existing strategy that GCC have for the east end regeneration route and hopefully the new M74 route will enhance the area furthermore in decades to come for inward investment. :)
gleegie July 26th, 2005, 12:18 AM The GEAR renewal program's of the 80's saved a lot of the remaining tenements. They're now the most desirable homes in the East end.
Big consumer driven push then too I've alway's liked the Forge shopping centre, used to get taken there on Saturdays. Always remember my gran remarking how great the pyramids looked as you drove down the hill. Sure it's of its time and very eighties, but that's what makes it valuable. Interlinking the shopping corridors, with meeting areas beneath the pyramids was a great idea. Certainly better than Braehead/Buchanan Galleries. Of course we've now also got Glasgow Fort.
There are a lot of industrial estates, warehousing, yards and the like. If there's one thing the East end has it's cheap land. the light industry around Cowcaddens should be relocated east. The City park development is great too, it's its own little town in there.
Didn't see the church on the hill till I was reviewing the pictures, something U/C?
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Celtic Park dominates.
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Some infill housing.
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There's a very leafy residential area tucked round the back of City park. Even some villa's.
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Northern skyline.
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Good rail links.
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Middle class enclaves cluster round parks/bowling greens.
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the Forge "spike". Not impressive.
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Empire State Human July 26th, 2005, 02:25 AM http://tinypic.com/9g97k4.jpg
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M_Riaz February 5th, 2008, 07:29 PM £25m homes plan after East End land deal (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2018358.0.25m_homes_plan_after_east_end_land_deal.php)
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The Beechgrove Road site and the flats, below, that will be built there
A DERELICT area near the site of Glasgow's Commonwealth Games athletes' village is to be transformed into a £25million housing development.
Stewart & McKenna acquired the site after striking a deal with Glasgow City Council, which needed another piece of land the developers owned at nearby Millerfield Road for the 2014 Games participants' accommodation.
The developers got £1.7m as well as the new plot in Beechgrove Street after selling the parcel of land to the council.
A total of 131 flats will be built in the development.
maccoinnich February 5th, 2008, 07:31 PM Wouldn't you just want to name that development 'Beechgrove Gardens'?
M_Riaz February 5th, 2008, 07:55 PM Wouldn't you just want to name that development 'Beechgrove Gardens'?
:laugh: that'd be ideal maccoinnich.
Everyone walk aboot wi designer wellys. :laugh:
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M_Riaz June 6th, 2008, 11:29 AM Item 9 (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2481&DATE=30/05/2008&TIME=11:00&DAY=Friday&PAGE=1)
Regeneration of Oatlands - Redevelopment of Site of 839 Rutherglen Road
Proposed Addition to 175-Year Lease to Gladedale
Purpose of Report:
To update Committee on the regeneration of Oatlands and to request authorisation to add the
site of the existing dwellinghouse at 839 Rutherglen Road to the ground already included in the
175-year lease to Gladedale for the purposes of housing redevelopment.
Recommendations:
That Committee authorises the Executive Director of Development and Regeneration Services to
• conclude negotiations with Gladedale for the addition of the site of the existing dwellinghouse
at 839 Rutherglen Road to the existing 175-year ground lease for the Regeneration of
Oatlands on the terms detailed in the report
• purchase a residential property within the Oatlands development, and enter into a lease
arrangement with Gladedale Ltd, to allow the rehousing of the current tenant of 839
Rutherglen Road on the terms, and for the reasons, detailed in the report.
M_Riaz June 23rd, 2008, 11:16 PM Item 4 (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2481&DATE=27/06/2008&TIME=11:00&DAY=Friday&PAGE=1)
Easterhouse Town Centre Action Plan(ETCAP)
Outcome of Negotiations with Hercules Unit Trust(HUT)
Purpose of Report:
• To advise Committee of the outcome of negotiations between the Council and Hercules
Unit Trust (owners of Glasgow Fort and Shandwick Square Shopping Centre in
Easterhouse) to create a Development Framework as a response to submitted Planning
Applications to aid delivery of the Easterhouse Town Centre Action Plan
• To obtain authority for the Executive Director of Development and Regeneration Services
to conclude the transaction on the basis outlined.
Recommendations:
It is recommended that Committee:
• notes the outcome of the negotiations between the Council and Hercules Unit Trust to
prepare a Development Framework which will aid the implementation of the Easterhouse
Town Centre Action Plan
• authorises the Executive Director of Development and Regeneration Services to
conclude the negotiations on the basis outlined in the report.
1.1 In August 2007 Committee approved a report recommending the acceptance of the
broad content of the Easterhouse Town Centre Action Plan (ETCAP) which had been
prepared for the Council by RPS, independent planning consultants.
1.2 The ETCAP’s analysis of Easterhouse Town Centre drew a number of conclusions
about the operation of the Town Centre.
These include:
• Glasgow Fort/Morrisons and the Bridge Cultural Campus worked effectively at
either end of the Town Centre, and the focus of any change should be to build on
these successful uses to improve facilities and linkages through the central part of
the Town Centre
• The Shandwick Square Shopping Centre was in serious decline and the case for its
retention was questionable in financial and urban design terms
• Proposed commercial leisure uses at the Fort were unlikely to attract operators in
the foreseeable future and new uses needed to be considered to allow both the
completion of the Fort development and the creation of new linkages to the rest of
the Town Centre.
• The existing planning policy framework did not identify any retail capacity which
could allow an extension of new retail floorspace within Easterhouse Town Centre,
unless it could be demonstrated that this was part of an overall package which
would assist the regeneration of the Town Centre.
• There was a need for other facilities within the Town Centre to aid its regeneration.
Potential regeneration measures include:
-A new sports centre to cater for the needs of an expanding population,
-A visitor and interpretation centre to emphasise the significance of Provanhall
House and integrate it into the Town Centre,
-Improved transport linkages into and through the Town Centre.
-New Community and childcare facilities
-Sports pitch provision at Westwood, in line wit the sports pitches strategy
M_Riaz July 1st, 2008, 09:28 PM Austin Smith Lord (http://www.austinsmithlord.com/asl_site.html?cacheNull=1214939925375)
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RapidTaco July 7th, 2008, 03:45 PM M Riaz - What is the above telling us? Is this being proposed? Sorry if I'm being a bit thick, it's just that I have a friend who lives near Bridgeton Cross and she's always moaning about how it needs a real overhall
M_Riaz July 7th, 2008, 06:45 PM M Riaz - What is the above telling us? Is this being proposed? Sorry if I'm being a bit thick, it's just that I have a friend who lives near Bridgeton Cross and she's always moaning about how it needs a real overhall
There are several different studies going on by ASL for the regenration/revamp of the bridgeton X area, the area is badly needed to be regenerated as part of the Clyde Gateway Initiative through GCC.
Some info on the ASL site Here (http://www.austinsmithlord.com/asl_site.html?cacheNull=1215448339875) ( go to: sectors > urban designs > bridgeton )
M_Riaz July 13th, 2008, 01:38 AM Sunday Herald (http://www.sundayherald.com/business/businessnews/display.var.2392683.0.full_of_east_end_promise.php)
Full of East End promise
One of europe’s Biggest urban renewal project faces the challenge of reviving the fortunes of Glasgow’s poorest areas. Can it succeed?
GLASGOW'S EAST end as a business powerhouse once again? For the first time in more than a generation, a transformation of the area - long seen as a drag on Scottish economic progress - looks do-able.
With candidates in the Glasgow East by-election competing over the airwaves to endorse the ambitions of the Clyde Gateway urban regeneration company (URC), a vision of an economically productive east end is lodging in Scottish and UK-wide consciousness.
Economic development specialists talk about the project with the same excitement with which researchers talk about an imminent medical breakthrough. In this case, the "patient" is the Scottish nation.
"If you can fix Glasgow's problems you will go along way towards fixing the problems for all of Scotland, says Richard Cairns, the new chief executive of Glasgow Chamber of Commerce and a forceful cheerleader of private sector involvement in Clyde Gateway.
"The east end is key, because it has the largest concentrations of derelict and underutilised land, as well as of unemployment and low skills. If you can regenerate that, then you make a huge difference to the economic performance of that part of Scotland's largest city and, therefore, the whole country."
Amid the rumblings of a property price collapse and the threat of sustained recession, Clyde Gateway's guaranteed funding makes it a counter-cyclical source of jobs and momentum. But even with the vast sums of money involved, the scale of the economic and social ambition means that a leap of faith is still required.
The resources that are going in to reinfuse the business base are impressive, even when you exclude the cost of the project's infrastructural backbone, the £700 million M74 extension, and its little brother, the £70m East End Regeneration Route.
London Olympics-related work apart, this is the biggest urban renewal project in Europe .
In Clyde Gateway's office in Bridgeton Cross, Ian Manson, the URC's chief executive pores enthusiastically over maps and Google Earth-type satellite photos that show vast tracts of startlingly empty or nature-reclaimed city-centre space amid the meandering loops of the Clyde.
"There are a lot of pockets of green in the east end, because there was nothing else to do with the land that was left when tenement housing was developed. It's not unattractive, but in economic terms, it is meaningless" he says.
"For us, Clyde Gateway is a back-to-the-future project. The east end was an economic powerhouse of Britain, and even if people don't get teary-eyed about it as they do with the shipyards, its decline had every bit of an impact that the decline of that industry had. The Parkhead Forge steelworks used to employ 30,000 people, making it the largest in the world in 1975, but there were other big businesses like Templeton's Carpets on Glasgow Green and Arrol's steel plant in Dalmarnock. These companies supported industries, local shops, local pubs. It was a very self-contained community.
"More than most cities in the UK, the business landscape was dominated by big business rather than small business, which meant that the removal of those businesses took away a lot of the latent potential that other cities enjoyed. Awareness of the industrial history of the east end is central to this project, and we expect about 100,000 people will benefit from it. It's about taking wasted assets, and bringing them back into the market.
"Business is central to us. We want to attract developers and businesses to think about setting up here, though the market, not us, will decide what is appropriate. Our job is to change perceptions, and to turn them on our head, and that starts with solving the practical problems of ground contamination and water and sewerage infrastructure."
For Manson, the public sector's role is to "use its assets creatively", for example, turning flooding problems into an excuse for a system of watercourses with parallel walks or cycleways.
While so much of the Clyde corridor has already been transformed, the east end has, until now, remained at the back of the queue. Why?
The non-political answer is that the area is a victim of previous success as a workshop of the British empire. The cost of "decontaminating" former heavy-duty industrial land, in a heavily depopulated area with a generally low-skilled populace has never seemed worth paying by would-be investors.
Clyde Gateway, which is chaired by former Scottish Enterprise chief executive Robert Crawford, is largely about removing barriers that potential employers had no great motive to try to overcome. They could always go somewhere else. At the project's core is the creation of modern business space for existing and new companies, giving them a competitive advantage in transport and logistics and energy efficiency that they wouldn't get elsewhere. The main targets are jobs in construction, offices, leisure and recreation activities, hotels and tourism, retail, financial services and "the new and emerging industries of the 21st century".
The Scottish government has already pledged £62m, to be spent before 2011, to Clyde Gateway, whose 2000-acre area straddles Glasgow's southeast city boundary with South Lanarkshire, to include Bridgeton, Dalmarnock, Partick, Shawfield and Rutherglen. The project's partners have committed land holdings and staff resources amounting to more than £100m of public money, in the short-term, to "pave the way" for a further £1.5 billion in private development over the next two decades.
The Commonwealth Games village (£245m) and the National Indoor Sports arena and Velodrome (£120m) are the most publicised parts of the package but neither they, nor the 10,000 new houses projected across the area, are central to the project. According to Cairns, the most enduring benefit will be the provision of space for a substantial amount of "the missing 5000" - the number of extra businesses that a city with the population of Glasgow should have, but doesn't, according to the city's economic strategy.
More than in any Scottish regeneration project previously, business is at the heart, and the project symbolises the closer working between civic and business leadership, championed by Glasgow City Council leader Steven Purcell and his predecessor, Charlie Gordon.
Cairns, who was head of economic planning at the council before taking charge of the English-speaking world's oldest Chamber (founded 1783), says the east end should not be treated as the kind of poster child for social injustice that the candidates are parading around the doorsteps and the media. Instead, he argues, the practical fact needs to be addressed that there are too few "class B" spaces for business outside the city-centre glass palaces, and too few work-ready personnel to allow them to expand without leaving the city, if they manage to survive business infancy.
Such constraints appear to have made Glasgow a net exporter of businesses and people, although the figures are hard to calculate precisely.
"Glasgow and the west have had a declining population and there has never been a case of a growing economy where that is happening at the same time," says Cairns.
The vision is of a "virtuous circle" in the east of the city where successful companies breed more of the same.
"We have got to find ways of getting more people into the labour force and if we are spending money it should be on getting people back to work. There is no way we can prosper where you have this number of people sitting around."
There have been significant successes in reducing the amount of worklessness in Glasgow from around 100,000 people four years ago to 80,000 now, and more are likely thanks to such schemes as the welfare-to-work Glasgow Works project supported by the Clyde Blowers tycoon Jim McColl. Clyde Gateway is intended to bring another 20,000 jobs to the city, and a similar amount of population growth.
With these changes, Cairns hopes, will come a more psychologically important shift that will be needed before the decades-long economic restoration of Scotland's biggest city can be considered complete.
"Glasgow is in better shape than it has been in a generation, but business in Glasgow is still undervalued," he says. "As far as I am concerned, business is Santa Claus, but there is still a passive attitude that sees it as a necessary evil rather than something that is fundamentally good. We need to celebrate the success of businesses here. A lot of that message just disappears in the ebb and flow, and people don't see it."
Enthusiasm for the possibilities of Clyde Gateway is partly based on a determination to feed the momentum that will be needed to carry a project of unprecedented complexity through to its conclusion, but it also reflects the determination to succeed where preceding generations of planners have failed - to provide a lasting, holistic answer to the devastation of Glasgow's heavy-industrial eclipse.
There has always been extreme poverty in the east end, but it was a world-class economic hub for far longer than it has been a marginalised area it is now.
Clyde Gateway sees no logical reason why the latter state is more natural than the former.
crusty_bint July 14th, 2008, 09:38 PM Melbourne St/Gallowgate, about 6 weeks ago
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M_Riaz July 14th, 2008, 09:58 PM Thanks for them photies Crusty... seem a bit better than the recent crap we are seeing being built.
An old coal fire serrated edge iron come to mind.
crusty_bint July 14th, 2008, 10:09 PM Yeah I've had a wee affection for this scheme since images were first released :) Quite an interesting little quarter developing down there, I just hope the Collegelands and Bellgrove masterplans come to fruition!
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M_Riaz November 21st, 2008, 01:16 AM ‘model for the future’ (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2469452.0.11m_homes_project_hailed_as_a_model_for_the_future.php)
AN £11million new housing development has been unveiled on the site of the old Gallowgate cattle market.
Communities Minister Stewart Maxwell joined new residents to celebrate the opening of the East End project, which has been hailed as a model for the future of contemporary housing.
Molendinar Park Housing Association's Moore Street development has 93 houses and flats to rent or to buy on shared equity and shared ownership schemes.
Mr Maxwell said: "These homes are an excellent example of how housing associations can work with local communities to make real and lasting changes."
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maccoinnich November 21st, 2008, 01:28 AM These are undoubtedly very stylish, and when I remember, I'll get some photos of them to post up here.
But - they make some odd gestures. The wedge shaped space between the flats, shown in the image above, reads as if it is the entrance to scheme. It's not. The entrance is through a retained archway (and fair enough), and the rest of the scheme is surrounded by a fairly high wall of defensive looking engineering bricks. And - who wants to sit out on a balcony facing onto some fairly naff 1970s buildings on the Gallowgate? So while these are fairly stylish buildings—and I'm pleased to hear that they're partially Housing Association—the arrangement of them on site is fairly odd.
M_Riaz November 25th, 2008, 10:15 PM Moore Street, Gallowgate (http://www.scottisharchitecture.com/article/view/Moore+Street%2C+Gallowgate)
Eight years after the unmitigated success of their contemporary housing development at Graham Square, Molendinar Park Housing Association has revealed an exemplary new model for elegant, affordable and sustainable housing on an adjoining site in the East End of Glasgow.
Love the refurbed archway.:)
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Some basic but effective designs and materials put to practice.
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Jmarchitects have declared that their overall interest in the development has been in the creation of a simple series of modulated facades that echo the simplicity and order of their tenemental predecessors.
crusty_bint November 26th, 2008, 12:33 AM maybe being a little uncharitable there macc? though i must admit i hadnt noticed the parapet before (hadnt been built in my pics)...
anyway, the view aint all that bad...
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ok, maybe im being too charitable now...
M_Riaz December 21st, 2008, 10:55 PM Moore st has a feature publicised in the AJ this week.
I'm Quite intrigued by this wee scheme think am gona take a wee trip over and see whit the fuss is aw aboot. :)
Glasgow visionaries
Richard Murphy Architects' innovative masterplan for Moore Street pioneers a new courtyard model for social housing in Glasgow, but the result is strangely fragmented, says Miles Glendinning.
The international story of the architecture and planning of urban housing in the 20th century has been a tale of sharp swings – between Modernist and anti-Modernist patterns, high and low density, and so forth. In Britain, these swings have been accentuated not only by our particularly violent fluctuations in housing tenure, from private to public and back again, but also by the longstanding 'Pugin tradition' of fierce architectural polemic between competing utopian visions.
Continues @ the Architects Journal (http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/designingbuildings/buildings/instantbldgreviews/2008/12/glasgow_visionaries.html)
M_Riaz January 2nd, 2009, 06:45 PM £1m boost for city landmark
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A Glasgow landmark is to get a £1million facelift.
The area around Bridgeton Cross - which dates to 1875 - is to get a new road layout, lighting and environmental improvements.
The original 50ft shelter and clock, known as the Umbrella, which was gifted to the city, will remain in place, but the surroundings will be altered.
Clyde Gateway, the regeneration agency for the East End, will fund most of the work.
All decisions on the future shape of the Cross have been put in the hands of a steering group made up of 12 residents and local shopkeepers.
The committee has met to consider ideas put forward by a number of landscape architects.
From the suggestions submitted it has selected Gillespie's, an environmental design company, to carry out the work.
Ian Manson, chief executive of Clyde Gateway, said: "All too often those most affected by changes of this scale and nature do not have a big enough say in what should happen.
"But we wanted residents and shopkeepers to take the lead with some support from the professional staff here at Clyde Gateway.
"Now that the design consultant has been selected, the steering group can begin to focus on the things they want incorporated into the improvements.
"That includes the quality of the landscaping, the style of lighting, the introduction of public art and the wider safety improvements, including traffic management."
The East End of the city is set to see major changes over the next few years in the run-up to Glasgow hosting the 2014 Commonweatlh Games.
Clyde Gateway is leading the way and Mr Manson said he had asked the committee to consider the heritage of the area as it tries to decide on the plans.
Owen Stewart is among the residents who will sit on the committee .
He said: "Clyde Gateway is quickly gaining a great reputation for the way it is linking into the communities in Bridgeton and Dalmarnock.
"I was delighted to be given the chance to become involved in this particular project.
"It was interesting to see the different ideas from the various architects and designers and to be able to have such a say in making the final selection.
"Bridgeton Cross is one of Glasgow's gems and the idea of it getting such a substantial makeover is one that will give the whole community a lift."
Gillespie's has been asked to produce detailed designs by the end of January.
It is hoped to begin work by October, with a completion date of early 2010.
The octagonal cast iron Bridgeton Cross shelter and clock was manufactured by George Smith & Co at its Sun Foundry in Port Dundas.
It originally provided a covered meeting place at the junction of London Road, Dalmarnock Road, Main Street and James Street.
Publication date 02/01/09
maccoinnich January 20th, 2009, 11:20 PM I really like the new signs on the Tennent's Wellpark Brewery. Kind of interesting to see what each of the buildings is. It'd be kind of cool if they did brewery tours. (And even better if Tennent's tasted any good.)
M_Riaz February 3rd, 2009, 02:35 AM Item 3 (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2481&DATE=06/02/2009&TIME=11:00&DAY=Friday&PAGE=1) (8 pages)
6th February 2009
EAST END REGENERATION ROUTE AND GLASGOW STRATEGIC DRAINAGE SCHEME
Purpose of Report:
The purpose of this report is to advise Committee of the proposed phasing of contracts for
the East End Regeneration Route (EERR) and the Camlachie Burn Overflow and to seek
approval for the associated capital budget.
Recommendations:
i) that the construction of the section of EERR from Rutherglen Bridge to Biggar Street be
combined with the construction of the Camlachie Burn Overflow and tendered as a
single contract;
ii) that a tender be issued for the section of the EERR from Biggar Street to Provan Road
with the stated intention of awarding the design package in 2009-10 and the
construction package at a later date; and
iii) that Committee approves the capital budget of £57m subject to tender.
M_Riaz March 11th, 2009, 04:07 PM ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2494744.0.120m_build_plan_to_boost_east_end.php)
£120m build plan to boost East End
http://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1095194&type=full
A total of 88 homes will be built on the site in addition to shops and a nursing home
A SUPERSTORE, shops, a restaurant and more than 80 houses will be built in Glasgow's East End as part of a £120million development.
Persimmon has applied to Glasgow City Council for planning permission to build on a site near The Fort mall, just off the M8.
The site, about the size of four football fields, is between Gartloch Road and Findochty Street, Garthamlock.
It is also close to the new National Indoor Sports Arena being built for the 2014 Commonwealth Games.
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The development will incorporate a nursery, a nursing home and a games court, which will become part of the existing Garthamlock Comm-unity Centre.
A total of 22 two- bedroom and three-bedroom homes and 66 two-bedroom apartments are planned.
This will be the last phase of the firm's work in the area, which includes recently-built homes in estates called The Beeches and The Glen.
The firm won prizes at the Homes for Scotland Awards 2007 for its 118 affordable houses in the area which were handed over to housing association Home Scotland.
However, as reported in the Evening Times, people who were due to move into the houses from their run-down blocks were caught up in a legal dispute after it was discovered the city council failed to change ownership documents with the Land Registry of Scotland after the land was transferred back to them from Glasgow Housing Association.
Due to this, Home Scotland was unable to buy the houses from Persimmon.
A spokesman for Home Scotland confirmed this has now been sorted out and that tenants have moved in.
The new planning application is now with the city council.
Publication date 11/03/09
M_Riaz April 3rd, 2009, 03:24 PM Item 1D (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2493&DATE=07/04/2009&TIME=11:00&DAY=Tuesday&PAGE=1)
APPLICATION 08/03016/DC : DATE VALID : 05.12.2008
SITE ADDRESS
Vacant Site Bounded By Dervaig Street To The Rear Of 1325 Duke Street Glasgow
PROPOSAL
Erection of residential development with office associated access, landscaping and car parking.
APPLICANT
Parkhead Housing Association
40 Helenvale Street
Glasgow
G31 4TF
AGENT
Collective Architecture Ltd (http://www.collectivearchitecture.com/)
Mercat Building
26 Gallowgate
GLASGOW
G1 5AB
SITE AND DESCRIPTION
The site is bounded by Duke Street, Salamanca Street and Dervaig Street in the Parkhead area of the City.
The site lies within Parkead’s historic core and there are nearby listed buildings located at Parkhead Cross; the
current proposals will serve in the ongoing incremental redevelopment of this important street block.
The application site is situated at a prominent road junction within the Parkhead Conservation Area, with Duke Street
functioning as a major arterial route into and out of the City Centre. The site is currently vacant, having functioned
previously as a cinema and latterly a bingo hall.
PROPOSAL
This application is for full planning permission for the erection of a residential development of 25 elderly and
amenity flats and a ground floor office unit on the Duke Street elevation.
In townscape and architectural terms, the proposal seeks to consolidate and complement the adjacent built forms,
providing a coherent and legible sequence of urban blocks that makes a positive contribution to the character and
appearance of the Parkhead Conservation Area and the setting of surrounding listed buildings. The development will
also serve to provide quality new build housing for elderly residents with mobility problems in the heart of the Parkhead
Town Centre at a highly accessible location. It is proposed that the office accommodation would be occupied by
Parkhead Development Company (a subsidiary of Parkhead Housing Association).
On the corner of Duke Street and Salamanca Street the built form would be 6 storeys in height with the ground floor
occupied by the proposed office accommodation. To the rear of this along Salamanca Street the massing of the
building is reduced to 4 storeys in height.
The site is in the Shettleston Ward.
mr moto April 3rd, 2009, 04:12 PM ‘model for the future’ (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2469452.0.11m_homes_project_hailed_as_a_model_for_the_future.php)
AN £11million new housing development has been unveiled on the site of the old Gallowgate cattle market.
Communities Minister Stewart Maxwell joined new residents to celebrate the opening of the East End project, which has been hailed as a model for the future of contemporary housing.
Molendinar Park Housing Association's Moore Street development has 93 houses and flats to rent or to buy on shared equity and shared ownership schemes.
Mr Maxwell said: "These homes are an excellent example of how housing associations can work with local communities to make real and lasting changes."
http://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1084116&type=full
Are there any interior shots of these new flats? i have seen them advertised on various property websites , but all they show are pictures of the exteriors 'oddly they do not show one picture of the inside or even a floorplan !
I truly do not care if they were built by..award winning architects.. [ are there any architects who have not won an award ] :ohno: I like the look of these but what is the living space inside like .
M_Riaz April 3rd, 2009, 04:27 PM Some floorplans on Here (http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/moore_street.htm) Mr Moto.
http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/moore_street_rma140109_mtb.jpg
mr moto April 3rd, 2009, 05:01 PM Some floorplans on Here (http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/moore_street.htm) Mr Moto.
http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/moore_street_rma140109_mtb.jpg
Thank you ....A new build that i really like ! :applause::applause:
I like the internal courtyard a lot .
M_Riaz April 3rd, 2009, 05:23 PM For some obscure reason they remind me of an Latin American hilled housing area, the building exteriors sharp jutting edges seem similar,dunno maybe am goin nuts. :nuts:
http://z.about.com/d/studenttravel/1/0/v/6/hill_cross_tacxo_exp_05.jpg
http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/jpgs/moore_street_rma140109_1.jpg
maccoinnich April 3rd, 2009, 05:51 PM Think you need to cut down on the coca leaf tea, mate.
M_Riaz April 3rd, 2009, 06:03 PM Nah man i need ma tea..
http://ecoworldly.com/files/2009/03/drinking-coca-tea.jpg
gweilo April 3rd, 2009, 09:41 PM I don't think your thinking is obscure Mo! I think your observation is spot on in that's kind of the point Richard Murphy is trying to make with all the terraces and external stairs. His source is probably a little more closer to home mind as in he's doing a riff on the kind of courtyard housing you find around the Royal Mile in Edinburgh but the pattern, or principle, is essentially the same.
Richard Murphy is actually a romantic and a bit of a humanist. There was an article authored by Murphy in Architecture Today a year or so ago in which he commented that he thought Christopher Alexander's A Pattern Language was the most significant architecture book of the latter half of the 20th Century. Alexander's philosophy (which is promotes traditional approaches and solutions to housing and towns) touches on many of the same issues as Murphy addresses here such as how humans enjoy this kind of social courtyard space i.e. you keep coming across them as a reoccuring pattern in the built environment precisely because they are enjoyed by people and therefore successful. If you read Alexander you can understand Murphy better.
M_Riaz April 4th, 2009, 02:06 AM Thanks for the reassurance Gweilo :) i feel slightly sane now with my view of this design.
Heres to you Macco > :baeh3:
M_Riaz April 8th, 2009, 02:02 PM ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2500718.0.minister_talks_to_locals_about_1_6bn_plans.php)
http://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1098188&type=full
Minister talks to locals about £1.6bn plans
RESIDENTS involved in the planned £1.6billion make-over of the East End of Glasgow have met the minister in charge of funding the project.
MSP Alex Neil, minister for housing and communities, visited people from Bridgeton who are helping regeneration agency Clyde Gateway drive forward the 20-year plan.
They are part of a steering committee set up to ensure local people have their say on the proposals, in particular a £1.4million project to revamp Bridgeton Cross.
That is just one of the first plans for the scheme which aims to create 21,000 jobs, build 10,000 new homes and increase the population in the East End by 20,000.
M_Riaz April 10th, 2009, 05:06 PM EELDS PDF document .
EELDS (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/AF0E7C52-1258-4BF4-A435-B79A81501DB4/0/EELDS.pdf)
http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img246/923/strat.jpg
M_Riaz April 29th, 2009, 12:18 PM ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2504963.0.video_1500_jobs_for_east_end.php)
1500 jobs for East End
A DERELICT 30-acre site in Glasgow's East End is to be transformed into a business park bringing up to 1500 jobs.
The plot, off London Road, is the first major land purchase by the regeneration agency Clyde Gateway, who paid £3million for it.
Agency bosses described the site as "exceptional" said it would be developed as a "high-quality business park" appealing to new investors and businesses wanting to relocate.
A move to transfer Weir Pumps operations to the site, beside Auchenshuggle Woods, fell through in 2007.
ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/features/display.var.2504943.0.0.php)
Area is going for gold with Games success
IT will bring millions of pounds to Glasgow but the decision to hold the 2014 Commonwealth Games in the East End raised more than a few eyebrows. It was not universally welcomed at first - critics claimed the money would be better spent improving living conditions in the area.
But as details of how the East End will benefit have been revealed there has been growing acceptance that the Games should be a catalyst for massive change
http://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1100163&type=full
marzepans April 29th, 2009, 12:55 PM Should "No proposals will be considered that compromise the potential delivery of this facility" at the end of the EELDS exert be taken to mean that the station on London Road is a fait accompli?
M_Riaz April 29th, 2009, 10:37 PM GCC (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Business/Planning_Development/TownscapeHeritage/theparkheadcrosstownscapeheritageinitiative.htm)
http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/1ED9254B-0E6E-40CC-995B-EEEFA2B26D4F/0/parkheadcrossconservationarea14scaled.jpg
Item 3 (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/Documents/Live/Calton%20Area%20Committee/20091/1000_29_04_2009_2709_Report_Item%203.pdf) (5 pages)
PARKHEAD TOWNSCAPE HERITAGE INITIATIVE
Purpose of Report:
To advise the Committee of further details of the Parkhead Townscape Heritage
Initiative implementation.
Recommendation:
The Committee is asked to note:-
(a) the current status of the Parkhead Cross Townscape Heritage Initiative;
(b) the strategy for investment in the public realm; and
(c) the development of a potential investment programme from 2011 onwards.
M_Riaz June 8th, 2009, 07:38 PM Forge Square, Shettleston
Architect: Robinson McIlwaine
http://www.rmi.uk.com/projects/mixed/forge/images/forge1.jpg
Robinson McIlwaine (http://www.rmi.uk.com/projects/mixed/forge/forge.html)
PROJECT OVERVIEW
Complete: -
Cost: 50m
Size: 40000 sqm
Time: -
Client Brief :
To provide mixed use development proposal in the east end of Glasgow, consisting of apartments and workspace units.
Design Solution:
The design concepts draw from and offer a reinterpretation of the traditional Glasgow tenement blocks.
Procurement Process:
Traditional Architect led design team. Contract not yet decided.
Client feedback Not yet received.
The Panel thanked the Architects and Developer for their clear, concise and reasoned analysis of the
Glasgow tenement in terms of urban design, scale, forms and materials.
The Panel were attracted to the ideas of repairing the urban fabric of Shettleston in a contemporary
interpretation of the base, middle and top of a tenement by the use of workspace on the ground floor,
double height windows to the centre and the set back reinterpretation of the roofs with their chimneys.
The ideas of being able to conceal the car parking below landscaped decks were attractive but the Panel
would have preferred to have seen more cross sections through the site to be sure that this aspect was
fully worked out.
The Panel assumed that the proposed external wall materials were natural stone and zinc and were
concerned that the proposed precast concrete panels for the external walls may in reality have an
industrial aesthetic and not appear to be residential or domestic. Considerable concern was expressed
about water running down the double height windows onto the slim precast concrete floor panel or the full
height panels below causing staining without very careful detailing to shed the water clear of the façade.
The Panel is aware of the disturbing crime profile of Shettleston and urge the Architects/Developer to
consult Strathclyde Police Architectural Liaison Team. Notwithstanding the crime profile for the site the
Panel advise the Architects to learn from experience across the city which demonstrates that the back
closes or gardens should be private and only available to the residents of the development. This should be
achieved by secure close doors and security fencing or walls to the spaces between buildings.
The Panel commented on the high architectural ambition for the project which they wish to encourage but
urge the Architects/Developer to reconsider the following:
• access and security to interior courtyards
• daylight to the smaller courtyard
• to maximise the use of natural materials
• landscaping to the deck over the car park
The Panel welcome the Architects/Developer to Glasgow and look forward to the evolution of this project
M_Riaz June 11th, 2009, 07:21 PM :)
Shettleston Housing Association (http://elder.phantom.whitespectre.net/index.php/projects/show/shettleston_housing_association_glasgow/#)
http://elder.phantom.whitespectre.net/images/projects/SHA_Montage_Final.jpg
http://elder.phantom.whitespectre.net/images/projects/P1010001_1.JPG
M_Riaz June 13th, 2009, 12:57 PM Further expansion at Parkhead Forge
Item 4A (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2493&DATE=16/06/2009&TIME=11:00&DAY=Tuesday&PAGE=1) (11 pages)
APPLICATION 08/02898/DC
DATE VALID 05.11.2008
SITE ADDRESS
Site At Forge Retail Park/Biggar Street/ Gallowgate Glasgow
PROPOSAL
Reconfiguration of Forge Retail Park including demolition and extensions to provide
foodstore (9,945 square metres) (Class 1), petrol filling station, revised access and
amended parking layout for 1,778 cars (increase of 172 spaces) and landscaping
APPLICANT
The Forge Retail Park Unit Trust
C/o Savills (L And P) Ltd
163 West George Street
Glasgow
G2 2JJ
AGENT
Savills (L And P) Ltd
163 West George Street
Glasgow
G2 2JJ
WARD NO(S)
09, Calton COMMUNITY
COUNCIL
02_046, Camlachie (Inactive)
CONSERVATION AREA LISTED
ADVERT TYPE
Bad Neighbour Development
PUBLISHED 9 January 2009
CITY PLAN
Town Centre
SITE AND DESCRIPTION
This application is for the reconfiguration of the Forge Retail Park. The Retail Park is located to the north of
Biggar Street/Gallowgate (this road is part of the proposed East End Regeneration Route) to the east of
Millerston Street, to the south of Airdrie to Helensburgh railway line and to the west of former Netherfield
Chemical Works (now cleared).
The Retail Warehouse Park lies at the edge of Parkhead Town Centre (Tier 2). The Retail Park has one large
vacant unit (the former Woolworths Big W) (9,945m2) and unit 3b (384 sq m).
Previous Site History
The site has a complex planning history. The first phase of the Forge Retail Park opened in the mid 1990s.
The Retail Park as it is today was implemented in four phases.
Phase 1 (Two blocks of units on Millerston Street/Gallowgate either side of access road (7,065 and
5,568 sq m) (Sports World, Poundstretcher, Next, Maplin, Vacant Unit, Marks and Spencer and
Harveys) and (Toys ‘R’ Us, Argos, Carpetright, JJB Sports)
Phase 2 (Block furthest to east on Biggar Street (3,873 sq m), Comet, DSG Retail and Pets at Home)
Phase 3 (Former Big W Woolworths off Beardmore Way 9,945 sq m)
Phase 4 (B & Q to rear of site west of chemical works 10,537 sq m)
Other small drive thru/restaurant outlets have also been constructed Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken and
retail unit Carphone Warehouse to the front of units in Phase 1 on Biggar Street and also a security office.
The existing floorspace in use for the Retail Warehouse Park is 36,623 m² of Class 1 (non-food retail) and
ancillary hot food, 654m² and security 139m² and Carphone Warehouse 100m²
THE PROPOSAL
It is proposed to reconfigure and upgrade the Retail Park (in order to safeguard its future) with the following
proposal:
- the existing Big W to be converted into a foodstore 9,945 sq m gross (occupant as yet unknown).
- the existing B & Q to be subdivided into 3 non-food retail units.
- erection of a petrol filling station and revised access.
- an increase in the number of car parking spaces to 1,778 (an increase of 172 spaces) by redesigned
traffic circulation and improved landscaping of car park and boundaries to provide more attractive
shopping environment.
- demolition of unit 5 (1,034 sq m) to provide better pedestrian access to rear of Retail Park and better
views of the whole Retail Park from entrance and Gallowgate and creation of new units of various sizes
and locations to front of Retail Park (4,206m2) and ancillary café unit 5c (93m2).
- Improvement of walkways from bus stops and Parkhead Town Centre and improvements to internal
pedestrian circulation.
PAGE 3 08/02898/DC
The proposed Retail Warehouse Park would then comprise:-
Class 1 - foodstore 9,945m² (food 6,961m², non food 2,983m²) 70% convenience and 30% comparison split.
Class 1 - non-food 28,943m² with ancillary drive thru/restaurant outlets 654m² and security office 139m².
This would entail a decrease of 360m² of non-food floorspace (taking into account the new floorspace proposed,
unit to be demolished and remaining comparison floorspace that was unimplemented) and an increase of
5,100 sq m of food use (taking into account the 1,861m² of the former Aldi Supermarket).
M_Riaz June 13th, 2009, 01:24 PM EELDS (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/97B24ED8-5130-4BA9-8B3F-60F1FBED95DF/0/mapsfortheEELDS.pdf) Local Development Strategy PDF (12 pages) an insight to the development strategy in this area
of the 2014 commonwealth games.
Reopening of Parkhead Railway Station is a good interesting strategy IMO which should bring lots of other infrastructure benifits to the area. :)
PARKHEAD Railway station served the east end of Glasgow for much of the last century.
Opening in 1897 it was renamed Parkhead Stadium in 1952 because of its proximity to Celtic's ground.
The station was situated in a cutting overlooked by what is now called Whitby Street but which was then known as Winston Street in honour of Winston Churchill who had married a neice of Lord Newlands who was a well known benefactor in the area. Newlands primary school at Parkhead Cross was built by him and bequeathed to the people of the area in perpetuity.
In July 1914 King George V, Queen Mary and their entourage disembarked here for a royal visit to Beardmore's Parkhead Works.
It was a victim of Beeching's rail reform and closed in late 1964. In 1989 it was filled in and landscaped.
In the background can be seen the floodlights of Celtic park which were first switched on in Oct 1959 and at the time were reputed to be the highest in the world standing at 208 feet above the pitch.
The photo was taken in June 1963
http://parkhead.eveningtimes.co.uk/files/photo/max-247609.jpg
AshAshAsh June 13th, 2009, 06:22 PM Very encouraging that Glasgow council are seriously considering re-opening Parkhead station. The line is already running trains every 15 mins through there, so it should be a no-brainer.
There is plenty of land next to the tracks which could be developed, as well as the stadium & shopping centre as you can see (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Parkhead,+Glasgow&sll=53.956086,-4.042969&sspn=10.770639,27.905273&ie=UTF8&ll=55.856202,-4.198687&spn=0.00501,0.02178&t=k&z=16).
Hopefully the Commonwealth Games will provide some incentive to the powers that be to pull the finger out.
Edit: Thats a cracking photo by the way. I love those old Glasgow pictures.
crusty_bint June 13th, 2009, 06:31 PM Ash, Parkhead (stadium) station, as pictured, was on the disused line which runs under London Rd and emerges just east of Celtic Park >map< (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Parkhead,+Glasgow&sll=53.956086,-4.042969&sspn=10.770639,27.905273&ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=55.848698,-4.199127&spn=0.00312,0.013733&z=17&iwloc=A).
Ahhhh June 14th, 2009, 12:28 PM Ash, despite getting the wrong line, your point stands. We seem to be really stupid these days, plonking things right next to railway lines, and not bothering to think of opening stations at them.
Look at the gyle!
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=55.938024,-3.307829&spn=0.012162,0.038452&t=h&z=15
Hey, we could have a thread about that, how about, "Public places right next to railways where we've omitted to build a station because we are stupid!"
AshAshAsh June 14th, 2009, 06:18 PM I know the picture provided is of the old line that runs under London Road to Bridgeton, but the new railway station proposed in the report that M_Riaz linked to would be on the line from Queen Street to Drumgelloch, near the Parkhead Forge.
We seem to be really stupid these days, plonking things right next to railway lines, and not bothering to think of opening stations at them.
I think the Gyle is getting a railway/tram station in a few years but I agree whole-heartedly on that point. I don't understand why we aren't automatically incorporating rail access into large new developments (even when they are located way from existing railway lines like Braehead or that big office park going up at Eurocentral) at the planning stage. It should be considered basic infrastructure rather than an optional extra in my view.
Ahhhh June 14th, 2009, 06:31 PM ...or even a condition for planning in some cases??
Silverburn would be another example, Edinburgh airport is wedged between two or three lines, Aberdeen airport is the same, there is a station very close, but it's accross the airfield from the terminal gah!!
deBuitléir June 15th, 2009, 12:09 PM Further expansion at Parkhead Forge
Item 4A (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2493&DATE=16/06/2009&TIME=11:00&DAY=Tuesday&PAGE=1) (11 pages)
This is quite interesting and something that I thought might happen to the former Big W. I'd be happy to see a sainsburies appear here (they wouldn't even have to change the colour of the building as the orange and blue would work fine).
What I am surprised about is the sub-division of the B&Q store. I had no idea they were pulling out of this retail park and will be sorely missed. I am in there all there time.
I'm now wondering where the nearerst B&Q is (drumchapel or paisley I imagine).
RapidTaco June 15th, 2009, 03:53 PM Surprised to hear that B&Q are heading out of Parkhead Forge too, it has always been busy when I've been in there. Hope they don't pull out of the Darnley store as that's my local one!
DMC_GLA June 15th, 2009, 04:56 PM I was actually passing Braehead last night and noticed the railway line running just south of it the possibility of a station being at the most 2 - 3 minutes walk - unbeleivable for such a large high profile development for not just shopping but entertainment and residential too that it doesn't have a station, if I was planning it I would have given it 2 to cover the residential next to it.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=55.872349,-4.364963&spn=0.002889,0.009613&t=h&z=17
This line seems to come to a stop at Braehead, with a bit of forward planning it could have been used to cover Braehead and the airport.
M_Riaz July 6th, 2009, 01:26 PM ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2518459.0.0.php)
Emm sorry to pee on yer fire ET but we knew this about a year ago.
£14m blueprint breathes life into Great Eastern :ohno:
http://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1107012&type=full
morphology July 6th, 2009, 02:04 PM The images on the et website bare absolutely no resemblance to whats getting built. Who is the architect on this scheme? The steel frame is going up for a 6 storey? extension to the east, which well definitely help the disparate street edge of duke street.
zipper July 6th, 2009, 04:37 PM The images on the et website bare absolutely no resemblance to whats getting built. Who is the architect on this scheme? The steel frame is going up for a 6 storey? extension to the east, which well definitely help the disparate street edge of duke street.
Elder & Cannon
brockolly July 6th, 2009, 08:05 PM This is quite interesting and something that I thought might happen to the former Big W. I'd be happy to see a sainsburies appear here (they wouldn't even have to change the colour of the building as the orange and blue would work fine).
What I am surprised about is the sub-division of the B&Q store. I had no idea they were pulling out of this retail park and will be sorely missed. I am in there all there time.
I'm now wondering where the nearerst B&Q is (drumchapel or paisley I imagine).
Bishopbriggs
morphology July 6th, 2009, 10:43 PM Elder & Cannon
http://www.architecturescotland.co.uk/news/1581/Homing_in_on_Duke_Street_.html
i have just seen the pictures of what is proposed. im completly lost for words. that is astonishingly bad. Surely that wasnt elder and cannon. whoever it is should hang their head in shame.
I held out quite a lot of hope for that scheme, hoping it would build upon the standard of social housing at Moore Street round the corner, but instead its just as bad as 3d Reids useless recladding of the towers across the road.
words really fail me here.
maccoinnich July 6th, 2009, 11:26 PM I actually quite like the recladding of the towers, although it could have done without the bright red sun spaces.
But that, yes, is awful. Surely, surely, it's not Elder & Cannon...?
deBuitléir July 7th, 2009, 02:00 PM http://www.architecturescotland.co.uk/news/1581/Homing_in_on_Duke_Street_.html
i have just seen the pictures of what is proposed. im completly lost for words. that is astonishingly bad. Surely that wasnt elder and cannon. whoever it is should hang their head in shame.
I held out quite a lot of hope for that scheme, hoping it would build upon the standard of social housing at Moore Street round the corner, but instead its just as bad as 3d Reids useless recladding of the towers across the road.
words really fail me here.
I'm confused. the above seems to fall in line with the work that is actually taking place (I'm not impressed) yet yesterday's Evening Times reports this (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2518459.0.14m_blueprint_breathes_life_into_great_eastern.php). Quite different usage and images - is this just more bad reporting on the part of the ET?
maccoinnich July 20th, 2009, 01:57 AM New drink industry fears as Tennent’s ‘for sale’
BRIAN CURRIE July 20 2009
One of Scotland's most famous breweries and beer brands has been earmarked for sale as its owners try to reduce their debt burden.
Tennent's Wellpark brewery in Glasgow could be sold to recoup some of the £31.8bn merger deal between Anheuser-Busch and InBev, which created its parent company last November. It was reported yesterday that investment bank Lazard had been appointed to find potential buyers for the business, which has around 60% of the Scottish lager market and is valued by industry experts at £86m.
Although there's no suggestion that any of the 300 jobs at Wellpark are at risk, the proposed sale has raised concerns over the future of parts of Scotland's drinks industry following the 900 redundancies announced by Diageo at its plants in Kilmarnock and Port Dundas in Glasgow.
The Scottish Government appeared to know nothing about the proposed sale yesterday.
A spokesman said: "Tennent's is a major employer in Glasgow and Scotland and we will be contacting the company urgently in order to seek clarification."
Local politicians did not want to appear alarmist, saying the brewery had survived previous takeovers. However, its future is likely to become a campaign issue in the Glasgow North East by-election because of its location in Dennistoun.
...continues at the Herald (http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2520912.0.New_drink_industry_fears_as_Tennents_for_sale.php).
M_Riaz August 22nd, 2009, 03:15 PM Item 4 (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2709&DATE=26/08/2009&TIME=10:00&DAY=Wednesday&PAGE=1) (6 pages)
Implementing the City Plan:
The East End Local Development Strategy
Purpose of Report:
To advise Committee of:
• Progress in delivering the East End Local Development Strategy
Recommendation:
• The Committee note the current work programme to deliver key projects identified in
the East End Local Development Strategy (EELDS)
• The Committee continue to monitor the implementation of the EELDS and the
development of key projects.
M_Riaz August 22nd, 2009, 03:29 PM Reference: 09/01815/DC Community Cnl: Calton/Bridgeton
Address: Shelter At Bridgeton Cross Glasgow
Proposal: Refurbishment of Bridgeton Cross Shelter
Date Received: 05.08.2009 Date Valid: 05.08.2009
Applicant
Details: Clyde Gateway URC
Agent Details: 0141 553 5440
Page
20 James Morrison Street GLASGOW G1 5PE
Ward: Calton
Type: Listed Building Consent Level:
Case Officer: Mr M Ward, 0141 287 8657
Listing: A Cons Area:
Map Reference: (E) 260701 (N) 664001
M_Riaz August 25th, 2009, 12:19 AM rcahms (http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/172742/details/glasgow+bridgeton+cross+shelter/)
Glasgow, Bridgeton Cross, Shelter Site type: CLOCK TOWER, SHELTER
Canmore ID 172742
Site Number NS66SW 611
NGR NS 60709 63998
Council GLASGOW, CITY OF
Parish GLASGOW (CITY OF GLASGOW)
Region STRATHCLYDE
District CITY OF GLASGOW
County LANARKSHIRE
DMC_GLA August 26th, 2009, 01:59 PM New leisure development planned for Rutherglen
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2527521.0.0.php
http://www.ashfieldland.co.uk/projects/two74-glasgow.php
thewonder September 3rd, 2009, 10:32 PM I'm wondering if anyone has info on a planning application for a tesco, situated on derelict land between Gallowgate and Duke st? I believe there was also an application by Dawn Homes for approx. 400+ residential units nearby, next to Melbourne st. The Dawn Homes website states that this development is still active, however I have heard that they no longer own (or will soon not own) the land. If anyone has any further info on these developments, I'd greatly appreciate it. :)
P.S. When are we likely to see any construction on the Collegelands development...i heard that was a goer! Really like those plans :)
merci beaucoup!
M_Riaz September 3rd, 2009, 11:43 PM I'm wondering if anyone has info on a planning application for a tesco, situated on derelict land between Gallowgate and Duke st? I believe there was also an application by Dawn Homes for approx. 400+ residential units nearby, next to Melbourne st. The Dawn Homes website states that this development is still active, however I have heard that they no longer own (or will soon not own) the land. If anyone has any further info on these developments, I'd greatly appreciate it. :)
P.S. When are we likely to see any construction on the Collegelands development...i heard that was a goer! Really like those plans :)
merci beaucoup!
Some info on the Collegelands (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=365862) thread of the original applications, theWonder :)
The downturn must be taking its toll for Dawn Developments to get rid of this land, must say i'm quite surprised at this news.
Fei Jie September 18th, 2009, 03:59 PM John Gilbert Architects have their signboard up outside the convinience store on Tollcross Road, just before Parkhead Cross next to the Kweilin Chinese...is this a sign of a regenration project (has the Lottery funding board up too....) for the area? John Gilbert are a good little office.
M_Riaz December 7th, 2009, 08:04 PM Item 5 (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2481&DATE=11/12/2009&TIME=11:00&DAY=Friday&PAGE=1) (6 Pages)
11th December 2009
Celtic Football Club Masterplan Statement
Purpose of Report:
To advise members of proposals being developed by Celtic Football Club to redevelop the Celtic
Park stadium precinct in advance of the 2014 Commonwealth Games and post-2014.
Recommendations:
It is recommended that the Committee:
• Notes that Celtic Football Club is developing proposals for the phased redevelopment of
the Celtic Park Stadium precinct (hereafter referred to as the Celtic Triangle)
• Notes that the proposals support the delivery of the East End Local Development
Strategy
• Approves the Masterplan framework as the basis for more detailed masterplanning and
development work and as guidance against which to help assess future planning
applications within the stadium precinct.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7761/cfcmp.jpg
M_Riaz February 15th, 2010, 09:24 PM Item 5 (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2481&DATE=19/02/2010&TIME=11:00&DAY=Friday&PAGE=1) (8 pages)
19th February 2010
EAST END REGENERATION ROUTE (PHASE 2)
GLASGOW STRATEGIC DRAINAGE SCHEME (PHASE 2)
AND DALMARNOCK BRIDGE REPLACEMENT WORKS.
Purpose of Report:
The purpose of this report is to seek Committee approval to award the joint East End
Regeneration Route (Phase 2) and the Glasgow Strategic Drainage Scheme (Phase 2)
Contracts.
Secondly, the purpose of this report is to seek Committee approval to allow Carillion Rail to
proceed to the construction phase of the Dalmarnock Bridge works.
Note: Capital approval for these schemes was previously given by Committee on 6 February 2009.
Recommendations:
It is recommended that Committee approves the award of:-
1. The East End Regeneration Route (Phase 2) and the Glasgow Strategic Drainage
Scheme (Phase 2) to Farrans/IH Brown.
2. The Dalmarnock Bridge replacement works (construction phase) to Carillion Rail.
M_Riaz February 19th, 2010, 10:57 PM Item 1b (http://www.glasgowcitycouncil.co.uk/committee_minutes/public/extdocviewtop.asp?CID=2493&DATE=23/02/2010&TIME=11:00&DAY=Tuesday&PAGE=1) (5 pages)
23 February 2010
APPLICATION
09/02906/DC DATE VALID
04.12.2009
SITE ADDRESS
Site Bounded By London Road/Celtic Park/ Gallowgate Glasgow
PROPOSAL
East End Regeneration Route - Phase II accommodation works for temporary coach parking.
APPLICANT
Glasgow City Council
Land And Environmental
Services
231 George Street
GLASGOW
G1 1RX
SITE AND DESCRIPTION
The site is bounded by London Road to the south. Celtic Park to the east, Gallowgate to the north and the line
of the proposed EERR to the west. The proposed EERR – Phase II adversely affects the existing Celtic FC
coach park which is situated at Barrowfield Street/Stamford Street/Dalserf Street. As a consequence it is
proposed to construct a temporary coach park to the east of the EERR which will provide a greater capacity to
that which currently exists. In the longer term coach parking will be accommodated within the National Indoor
Sports Arena Velodrome car park.
The proposed temporary coach park will be split level (the existing disused railway embankment dividing the two
areas). Initially the northern section will be accessed via Gallowgate/Holywell Street and the southern area will
be accessed via London Road/Davaar Street. Ultimately it is intended that the temporary coach park will be
accessed via a new junction off the proposed EERR to be located approximately midway between London Road
and Gallowgate (this new junction formed part of the EERR planning application).
The proposed temporary coach park will consist of northern area 5,077 square metres of 50 coach parking
spaces and the southern area 16,480 square metres of 128 coach parking spaces. Additionally the areas will
have lighting, be fenced and gated and have a pedestrian guardrail to segregate and channel the football
supporters.
The site is partially in Glasgow City Council ownership, other areas are owned by Celtic FC plc, West of
Scotland Housing Association and Carmyle Investments Ltd. It is intended that Celtic FC plc will ultimately own
all of the land concerned. The site is a mixture of existing coach parking, existing roads and footways, disused
railway embankments, disused playing fields, former housing sites and open waste ground. The proposed
EERR will eventually form a delineation between the residential housing to the west and Celtic FC stadium and
associated coach parking and access routes to the east.
M_Riaz March 3rd, 2010, 06:34 PM This report has been done by the Dutch TV on the City & EELDS study highlighting the future prospects of the east end area from the CWG. :)
11Cywbh4xbI
Sol00 March 3rd, 2010, 07:49 PM That's a good video.
Not all of the east end is bad though, Dennistoun is really up and coming; I loved living there.
RapidTaco March 4th, 2010, 09:02 AM Agree Dennistoun is a good area these days. Mount Vernon is also a great wee suburb and the Commonwealth Games will make a huge difference to the likes of Bridgeton and Parkhead. Further out in Shettleston and Easterhouse...? hmmmmm
gme March 4th, 2010, 04:14 PM This report has been done by the Dutch TV on the City & EELDS study highlighting the future prospects of the east end area from the CWG. :)
Great find. Quality journalism too.
Deutsche Welle is German, by the way :)
Sol00 March 4th, 2010, 06:53 PM Agree Dennistoun is a good area these days. Mount Vernon is also a great wee suburb and the Commonwealth Games will make a huge difference to the likes of Bridgeton and Parkhead. Further out in Shettleston and Easterhouse...? hmmmmm
Yep I agree that Easterhouse, Baillieston and Shettleston etc still have a lot to do, but these areas are mainly residential, it'd take a lot of money and time to redevelop further east than Parkhead.
Gommsta March 4th, 2010, 09:15 PM What is the answer to Easterhouse? It doesn't seem to matter how much money is thrown at the place, is it going to improve to the level required? If the area was emptied and people brought back into the city how would that work in practice? Would it recreate the 1960s in the dispersal of communities? Difficult.
Someone posted an article a while back which talked about the bulldozing of certain city areas in the USA. It makes sense. Bulldoze the areas that are no longer fit for purpose, turn them back to countryside/green spaces. Increase density in the remaining parts of the city and focus the money on fewer places but with increased quality.
Glasgow could definitely go down this route, if it was deemed desirable to do so.
Sol00 March 4th, 2010, 09:33 PM And how would you like your whole district and neighbourhood to be bulldozed?
Areas can and do change with hard work, take a look at how the Gorbals has developed immensely over the last decade or so, and it's still being developed. That area was a dump 15 to 20 years ago, now it's an area with students, business people and others living there.
Furthermore, a lot has been spent on the Glasgow Fort which is another asset to Glasgow.
If you're going to post, please give sensible suggestions.
Gommsta March 4th, 2010, 10:00 PM And how would you like your whole district and neighbourhood to be bulldozed?
Areas can and do change with hard work, take a look at how the Gorbals has developed immensely over the last decade or so, and it's still being developed. That area was a dump 15 to 20 years ago, now it's an area with students, business people and others living there.
Furthermore, a lot has been spent on the Glasgow Fort which is another asset to Glasgow.
If you're going to post, please give sensible suggestions.
Why is it not a sensible suggestion? I shall try and find the article to which I refer and let you draw your own conclusions but in my opinion it made a great number of convincing arguments for this type of land clearance.
The area was a dump, you're right. Large areas of it are still a dump.
I visited it 20 years ago, and i've visited it recently. Yes some new houses have been built and the new college looks great, but out of all the areas i've visited in Glasgow, it is still this area above all that reeks of despair. I don't think a retail park is the answer to that.
You're right about New Gorbals, I had a look round recently and it's such a big difference to what came before. I believe that its success has been aided, in part, by its proximity to the city centre. Easterhouse does not have the same advantages.
If I offended you or anyone else by my comment, I apologise, but I do still believe there is a case to be made for the moving of people back into the city and the destruction of these semi-suburban estates.
:cheers:
Sol00 March 4th, 2010, 10:12 PM You didn't offend me as much as you would have offended someone who lived there. What you have to remember is that to you and me the place may be considered 'a dump', but to those that live there it is their homes and lives, to put it down like that isn't fair. It's not like saying an area of the city centre that could do with an area being upgraded or demolished; Easterhouse is a residential area.
I don't agree that the proximity to the city centre has any influence over how an area can develop whatsoever. What does help to improve an area is good housing stock, public transport links, leisure facilities and education facilities. If you go far west, in Anniesland for example, they don't have the same social problems, but it's still a far distance from the centre of Glasgow.
The problem is that the east end has not had as much investment as other areas, once this is addressed, the problems you describe will start to decline.
Sorry if I seemed quite rude earlier, but I know some people from Easterhouse and Baillieston and they are really nice and friendly people. Destroying an area only means people have to move elsewhere; that does not solve any problem.
Gommsta March 4th, 2010, 10:41 PM The point I was trying to make, rather unsuccessfully, about the New Gorbals area and its proximity to the city centre was that all of those amenities that are so desirable are but a stones throw away. If something is not present in the immediate vicinity, then the city centre is so close by that it serves as a genuine alternative. Where the Gorbals failed was in its poor housing stock and its own particular set of social problems.
When the new housing estate was built in Easterhouse there was no accompanying town centre constuction. That coupled with its distance from the city centre meant that there really wasn't anything there for the people to do. As far as "town" planning is concerned it's pretty much a blueprint of how not to do it! The centre that was built in the 70s was too little and too late. You're dead right in that the only way to remedy the problem now is through decent housing, education, jobs, and investment. It CAN be turned around.
What i'm asking is, should the emptying of the city seen in the 1960s be reversed? Should people be brought back into the city proper, creating more dense and vibrant neighbourhoods? Once this has been achieved, the land that has been left behind could be retasked for other things?
P.S. The reason I visit Easterhouse is to see friends. I agree that the people there are as decent as the people anywhere else. :)
Sol00 March 4th, 2010, 10:51 PM I see your point, but the east of the city has always been industrial, this has declined and so has the economy of the area because of it. People are unemployed that otherwise would have been employed locally; instead they're going to the local pub.
Easterhouse and its surrounding districts were thrown up post WW 2 and I doubt it was ever intended for the plan of these areas to last as long as it has been. It really is GCC's duty to properly invest in the east end now and completely rebuild the houses, leisure facililties etc.
I don't think moving people closer to the city centre will be of any benefit really, it may actually make things worse if houses and flats are built so close together. The problem isn't just the east end as well, a lot of north Glasgow also has its social problems, again, this was an industrialised area which has been declining. I would probably say that the rough areas of the north are probably just as bad as the east.
Gommsta March 4th, 2010, 11:10 PM Well, hopefully this investment in Dalmarnock and surrounding areas will start a new series of developments further to the East.
Due East March 5th, 2010, 12:02 AM And how would you like your whole district and neighbourhood to be bulldozed?
Areas can and do change with hard work, take a look at how the Gorbals has developed immensely over the last decade or so, and it's still being developed. That area was a dump 15 to 20 years ago, now it's an area with students, business people and others living there.
Furthermore, a lot has been spent on the Glasgow Fort which is another asset to Glasgow.
If you're going to post, please give sensible suggestions.
I think Gommsta made an interesting theoretical point that should be acceptable to talk about for discussions sake. Easterhouse, despite the investment will probably not get any better than it is just now (which I concede is an improvement). I think its an interesting point that bringing more people back into the centre and concentrating services would be beneficial. I'm not suggesting that you disrupt the communities that exist in the area, but there is a serious problem exacerbated by the vastness and isolated nature of the scheme. To be honest I've lost faith in the stream of new initiative that aim to fix the problems - they don't work. The American's don't pour good money after bad so what are we clinging on to here?
Sol00 the point you make about the Gorbals changing is a bit of a red herring. It only changed because they effectively bulldozed the worst parts of it. In my opinion the New Gorbals are a bit of a disappointment anyway. Looked at buying a house there but it can't compare with the Victorian neighbourhood feel of Dennistoun
Sol00 March 5th, 2010, 01:24 AM I think Gommsta made an interesting theoretical point that should be acceptable to talk about for discussions sake. Easterhouse, despite the investment will probably not get any better than it is just now (which I concede is an improvement). I think its an interesting point that bringing more people back into the centre and concentrating services would be beneficial. I'm not suggesting that you disrupt the communities that exist in the area, but there is a serious problem exacerbated by the vastness and isolated nature of the scheme. To be honest I've lost faith in the stream of new initiative that aim to fix the problems - they don't work. The American's don't pour good money after bad so what are we clinging on to here?
Sol00 the point you make about the Gorbals changing is a bit of a red herring. It only changed because they effectively bulldozed the worst parts of it. In my opinion the New Gorbals are a bit of a disappointment anyway. Looked at buying a house there but it can't compare with the Victorian neighbourhood feel of Dennistoun
Due East, I don't mean to sound rude but were you in the Gorbals 15/20 years ago? If you were, I doubt you'd be calling it a 'red herring'.
The point I was making was that an area can be completely transformed with proper investment. The Gorbals got and is still getting that investment and it has changed the area for the better. Regarding your last comment, that is your personal choice; personally I wouldn't mind either way depending on what facilities are available within the area and my house.
I admit I did jump on Gommsta rather quickly, however, I made the point as to why I did.
I think bulldozing an entire area only to move those that live there somewhere else does not solve the social problems these people have, it only moves it elsewhere. People need to have pride in where they live, the Gorbals proves this. Education is also important, to give the younger people prospects, ambition and visions for the future, without this they lose faith and turn to drugs, gangs etc.
You can't just ignore the people and their problems when you discuss improving a residential area.
Strukyboy March 5th, 2010, 12:02 PM Have to agree with GOMMSTA here.
People in my family were moved from the city centre by the glasgow corporation at the time.
They owned their property and were given options - move to the house we give you or pay for your own demolition. They hated the move precisely for the reasons you are saying above - at that time they walked to their jobs, got the train, the tram or the bus, and all of a sudden they had to try and find a way into the city - at that time new bus routes were not very well thought through and there were no trams and buses. No community and very little shops etc
I think its a far better idea developing the hundereds of gap sites we have and levelling some of these horrible areas.
Beardyman March 5th, 2010, 01:48 PM Easterhouse and its surrounding districts were thrown up post WW 2 and I doubt it was ever intended for the plan of these areas to last as long as it has been. It really is GCC's duty to properly invest in the east end now and completely rebuild the houses, leisure facililties etc.
Soloo, do you not actually agree with Mr Gommsta's argument by saying the above.
Due East March 5th, 2010, 03:01 PM Due East, I don't mean to sound rude but were you in the Gorbals 15/20 years ago? If you were, I doubt you'd be calling it a 'red herring'.
The point I was making was that an area can be completely transformed with proper investment. The Gorbals got and is still getting that investment and it has changed the area for the better. Regarding your last comment, that is your personal choice; personally I wouldn't mind either way depending on what facilities are available within the area and my house.
I admit I did jump on Gommsta rather quickly, however, I made the point as to why I did.
I think bulldozing an entire area only to move those that live there somewhere else does not solve the social problems these people have, it only moves it elsewhere. People need to have pride in where they live, the Gorbals proves this. Education is also important, to give the younger people prospects, ambition and visions for the future, without this they lose faith and turn to drugs, gangs etc.
You can't just ignore the people and their problems when you discuss improving a residential area.
I actually was in the Gorbal's in the past as my Gran lived there when I was younger. I don't really understand your support of the New Gorbals which was basically demolished with many people shipped out to other areas - this would seem to contradict what you are saying about demolishing an area and moving people out. A significant majority of the New Gorbals was sold as yuppie flats - how is this helping the indigenous people and their problems? I think they made a big improvement but ultimately missed a major opportunity to do something special with the site. Its a bit too residential and low-rise for an area so close to the centre in my opinion.
If you look around Glasgow today, most of the thriving communities are ones established on Victorian philosophy and architecture. Densely populated, mixed social classes, individual local shops, facilities (think of all the old victorian baths etc), parks and transport. Oh, and also durable housing - some of the modern flats I have been in are laughable. You can tell immediately from looking at them that they will require major repair and renovation work in the near future - why not just invest in making quality buildings that will last - its such a short sighted position to take.
I think the corporation meant well and genuinely tried to help its citizens but it has spectacularly failed. There is no point supporting a failed model. We are in the position now to try a new approach. As Struckyboy said - fill up the Gap sites in the city and that will improve life for everyone.
What I would like to see more of is developments like the Moore Street/Gallowgate project .
http://www.scottisharchitecture.com/uploads/Image/new%20buildings%20and%20places/MooreStreetGeneral5.jpg
Gommsta March 5th, 2010, 04:06 PM Think of it this way, wouldn't it be better to have the areas immediately adjacent to the city centre, like Tradeston, be regenerated first? Regenerated, repopulated, revitalised. Get more people in these areas, in good quality housing with all of the appropriate amenities. This has the effect of increasing the population in the city core, in turn increasing vibrancy and the desirability of the city centre as a place to live.
Now, obviously there is only a finite amount of room in the city, you don't want to overcrowd either, so this would then mean that the regeneration and newfound vibrancy would ripple out into surrounding areas through necessity. Think of dropping a pebble in the city centre and watching the ripples move outwards.
These newly regenerated areas should be a mixture of private owned/private rent/social rent.
Perhaps this solution would take a while, but i think it would be long lasting, rather than continually trying to polish something that will never shine?
Sol00 March 7th, 2010, 01:39 AM Soloo, do you not actually agree with Mr Gommsta's argument by saying the above.
The point I was making, and made several times, was that it's not as simple as demolishing one area and rebuilding elsewhere; the problem moves on. Education, pride and prospects are what makes people respect and care for their area.
Sol00 March 7th, 2010, 01:48 AM Think of it this way, wouldn't it be better to have the areas immediately adjacent to the city centre, like Tradeston, be regenerated first? Regenerated, repopulated, revitalised. Get more people in these areas, in good quality housing with all of the appropriate amenities. This has the effect of increasing the population in the city core, in turn increasing vibrancy and the desirability of the city centre as a place to live.
Now, obviously there is only a finite amount of room in the city, you don't want to overcrowd either, so this would then mean that the regeneration and newfound vibrancy would ripple out into surrounding areas through necessity. Think of dropping a pebble in the city centre and watching the ripples move outwards.
These newly regenerated areas should be a mixture of private owned/private rent/social rent.
Perhaps this solution would take a while, but i think it would be long lasting, rather than continually trying to polish something that will never shine?
Can I use Tradeston as an example of what your comment? By the way, I don't disagree with you, just would like to point out that I don't believe it's as simple as rebuilding when it comes to residential properties.
I rented a flat with 2 friends in the Kingston Quay building on Wallace Street (Morrison Street side). It looks really pretty and modern on the outside; central location, although not a lot around and nice flat. I only lasted 3 months before I moved out. The main close doors were all broken, the doors were probably kicked until the magnet gave way; our side only ever had 1 lift work out of 2; the wall on the ground floor had been kicked in to leave a hole; the gym equipment had been stolen and the courtyard garden had suffered from vandalism. That is only a selection of the problems the building faced.
The point is, as you probably know, building gorgeous new developments, regardless of location, does not mean that the problems will not continue; people HAVE to have a sense of belonging and pride of their area, without this, new buildings will only end up like the old ones in time.
Strukyboy March 8th, 2010, 12:02 PM Can I use Tradeston as an example of what your comment? By the way, I don't disagree with you, just would like to point out that I don't believe it's as simple as rebuilding when it comes to residential properties.
I rented a flat with 2 friends in the Kingston Quay building on Wallace Street (Morrison Street side). It looks really pretty and modern on the outside; central location, although not a lot around and nice flat. I only lasted 3 months before I moved out. The main close doors were all broken, the doors were probably kicked until the magnet gave way; our side only ever had 1 lift work out of 2; the wall on the ground floor had been kicked in to leave a hole; the gym equipment had been stolen and the courtyard garden had suffered from vandalism. That is only a selection of the problems the building faced.
The point is, as you probably know, building gorgeous new developments, regardless of location, does not mean that the problems will not continue; people HAVE to have a sense of belonging and pride of their area, without this, new buildings will only end up like the old ones in time.
The flats you mention above are certainly not pretty and never have been.
These flats suffer badly from a couple of things -
1, badly managed
2, badly designed
One of the main problems that led to their downfall was due to barrat not taking note of everyone that bought flats, and therefore couldn't get factor fees from loads of people which led to people not being paid, security, management etc. On top of this many people bought these for a quick buck just to rent them out - 20 odd flats at a time. These people dont give a toss about the upkeep and are only after their return, so they'd rent to anyone and everyone and it ended up full of DSS scumbags.
Bad design - the list is endless. The corridors are about a mile long. The doors were never fit for purpose. And the general build is just too big.
Tenement philosophy is much better as you have maybe max 10 flats in your close and will in most cases know thy neighbour, whereas in kingston quay, you have about 40 odd in one corridor.
So I guess your point is that we cant just through anything up in the city centre, but do you feel people living in post war blocks in easterhouse have pride in their area?
foswellplace March 8th, 2010, 12:08 PM All the land which is publicly owned between the M8 and the M80, from Garthamlock and Easterhouse in the south, to Stepps and Moodiesburn in the north, should be given FREE to housebuilders, be they individuals or companies, on the understanding that they built houses to live in themselves, or sell at cost price, plus a small profit. The state would pay for roads and other services....
It would lead to a boom...jobs for all, decent housing for all...and everyone working, which is what is missing at the moment...
Sol00 March 8th, 2010, 03:15 PM I actually was in the Gorbal's in the past as my Gran lived there when I was younger. I don't really understand your support of the New Gorbals which was basically demolished with many people shipped out to other areas - this would seem to contradict what you are saying about demolishing an area and moving people out. A significant majority of the New Gorbals was sold as yuppie flats - how is this helping the indigenous people and their problems? I think they made a big improvement but ultimately missed a major opportunity to do something special with the site. Its a bit too residential and low-rise for an area so close to the centre in my opinion.
If you look around Glasgow today, most of the thriving communities are ones established on Victorian philosophy and architecture. Densely populated, mixed social classes, individual local shops, facilities (think of all the old victorian baths etc), parks and transport. Oh, and also durable housing - some of the modern flats I have been in are laughable. You can tell immediately from looking at them that they will require major repair and renovation work in the near future - why not just invest in making quality buildings that will last - its such a short sighted position to take.
I think the corporation meant well and genuinely tried to help its citizens but it has spectacularly failed. There is no point supporting a failed model. We are in the position now to try a new approach. As Struckyboy said - fill up the Gap sites in the city and that will improve life for everyone.
What I would like to see more of is developments like the Moore Street/Gallowgate project .
http://www.scottisharchitecture.com/uploads/Image/new%20buildings%20and%20places/MooreStreetGeneral5.jpg
Sorry, I missed your post earlier.
I won't pretend to know the Gorbals inside out, but I do know that the new Gorbals area has been built on top of old land that was demolished. I remember an old style shopping area that was extremely run down, that is now the new Gorbals. The old Adelphi School has been well renovated and the land turned into a leisure centre and offices (I think) at the back.
Since the 2 blocks of high rise flats were knocked down in 2006, there were plans to rebuild with a large number of social rent homes.
Sol00 March 8th, 2010, 03:22 PM The flats you mention above are certainly not pretty and never have been.
These flats suffer badly from a couple of things -
1, badly managed
2, badly designed
One of the main problems that led to their downfall was due to barrat not taking note of everyone that bought flats, and therefore couldn't get factor fees from loads of people which led to people not being paid, security, management etc. On top of this many people bought these for a quick buck just to rent them out - 20 odd flats at a time. These people dont give a toss about the upkeep and are only after their return, so they'd rent to anyone and everyone and it ended up full of DSS scumbags.
Bad design - the list is endless. The corridors are about a mile long. The doors were never fit for purpose. And the general build is just too big.
Tenement philosophy is much better as you have maybe max 10 flats in your close and will in most cases know thy neighbour, whereas in kingston quay, you have about 40 odd in one corridor.
So I guess your point is that we cant just through anything up in the city centre, but do you feel people living in post war blocks in easterhouse have pride in their area?
I agree with you there; it felt more like a hotel, that was running itself down very quickly, than a block of flats.
Everyday I went back home from work, I dreaded what I'd find next, the last being the emergency light ripped off the wall and hanging from the wire.
I never said people living in Easterhouse had pride in their area, although I think there will be people that do. What I said was that it's not as simple as knocking down housing in one place and rebuilding elsewhere. The people need to have a sense of pride in their new area; they have to feel as though they belong there, or the area will just run itself down again.
Again, it's not just Easterhouse that is a run down area, the north of Glasgow has just as rough areas as the east end.
Gommsta March 14th, 2010, 09:41 PM Sol00 I agree, Easterhouse is just the name "picked" on because it is the largest such scheme of its type in the city, as far as i'm aware.
There are equal problems in the west, north and south!
With regard to the bulldozing of certain areas, here is a link detailing what the Mayor of Detroit wants to do.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20100211/METRO/2110476/Mayor-Bing-embraces-downsizing-city
Now I know Detroit has far larger problems than Glasgow but the idea is sound, and makes a lot of sense for a lot of different reasons.
I'm not advocating destroying communities, but I do believe the city needs to increase its density in the areas closer to the city centre itself.
leadensky March 14th, 2010, 10:42 PM With regard to the bulldozing of certain areas, here is a link detailing what the Mayor of Detroit wants to do.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20100211/METRO/2110476/Mayor-Bing-embraces-downsizing-city
Now I know Detroit has far larger problems than Glasgow but the idea is sound, and makes a lot of sense for a lot of different reasons.
I'm not advocating destroying communities, but I do believe the city needs to increase its density in the areas closer to the city centre itself.
I would agree with your last point. Let's have a reverse of the policies in the 50s and 60s - rather than ship people out to the edges of the city, let's give them the alternative of a cleaner, safer and better-connected inner-city. When places like Easterhouse begin to empty, the private sector can come in and clean-up.
viz-a-viz your link to Detroit news, I was looking for local reaction to the auto industry's woes, and found an unexpected reference to Glasgow, Scotland:
http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/autosblog/index.php
Due East March 14th, 2010, 11:49 PM Watching a program about the decline of Detroit just now and its amazing the parallels with Glasgow. They ripped out the streetcars, built freeways through the city and lost their tax base as wealthy citizens moved to the 'burbs.
Its heartbreaking seeing the buildings left to rot in Detroit. Sounds like the mayor is at least proposing a realistic and positive solution to halt the decline - hopefully they can save some buildings in the process.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 12:48 AM I would agree with your last point. Let's have a reverse of the policies in the 50s and 60s - rather than ship people out to the edges of the city, let's give them the alternative of a cleaner, safer and better-connected inner-city. When places like Easterhouse begin to empty, the private sector can come in and clean-up.
viz-a-viz your link to Detroit news, I was looking for local reaction to the auto industry's woes, and found an unexpected reference to Glasgow, Scotland:
http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/autosblog/index.php
Oops, it called Glasgow the capital city lol, doubt the burghers would be pleased
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 12:53 AM Sol00 I agree, Easterhouse is just the name "picked" on because it is the largest such scheme of its type in the city, as far as i'm aware.
There are equal problems in the west, north and south!
With regard to the bulldozing of certain areas, here is a link detailing what the Mayor of Detroit wants to do.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20100211/METRO/2110476/Mayor-Bing-embraces-downsizing-city
Now I know Detroit has far larger problems than Glasgow but the idea is sound, and makes a lot of sense for a lot of different reasons.
I'm not advocating destroying communities, but I do believe the city needs to increase its density in the areas closer to the city centre itself.
I agree that the areas between the centre and the gaps of the east end need to be filled, but I don't agree that whole areas need to be demolished for this. Bridgeton and its surrounds will be regenerated because of the Commonwealth Games.
As long as Easterhouse and its surrounds have good transport links and investment for the area, it can be regenerated where it is already sited.
Gommsta March 15th, 2010, 01:04 AM While I agree with what you're saying, I don't know where you are going to get the people to fill these gap sites. The population is declining/showing no growth so to fill these sites, you're going to have to move the people from other areas in the city.
In my opinion the city will continue to show no population growth until such time as these areas are filled. This new density and vibrancy will in turn attract new people to live in the city. It's a virtuous circle. Only then should the population start to radiate outwards.
Ahhhh March 15th, 2010, 01:26 AM I agree with the notion of increasing density nearer the city centre. How about regenerating some of the worst parts with some huge 'country parks'? However, is people are to be moved it must be done by enticement and not by forcing them to move; the old ways were definitely not the right ways...
Gommsta March 15th, 2010, 01:28 AM Agreed, communities need to be fostered and maintained. People should want to take up these opportunities through choice.
Now the city already has a buzz in certain areas, but imagine areas like Tradeston etc repopulated with sensible and intelligent housing/infrastructure. Same with all of the areas immediately adjacent to the city core. It'd make the city even more of a cool place to be, increased numbers mean increased self policing of areas, more vibrancy, more of a neighbourhood community. Of course this only applies with some thoughtful planning.
M_Riaz March 15th, 2010, 01:57 AM Bellgrove East End, Glasgow 2010
This one from Studio Kap (http://www.studiokap.com/architecture/newbuild/bellgrove/) is comming up as a 2010 project on their website, wonder if it will pull through to the development stages around the Bellgrove area.
Winning Bid ·
In 2007 we were invited to form part of the design team on Dawn Group’s bid to Glasgow City Council for the Bellgrove site, a 5 hectare brown-field site adjacent the old meat-market in Glasgow’s East End. Bids were prepared by a high-calibre shortlist of developer-led teams and assessment was based on both price and the quality of the supporting urban and architectural proposals. Lead consultants were Page+Park who in view of the scale of the development elected to enrich the diversity of the proposals by co-opting two additional architects, a landscape architect and an urban designer to deal with key aspects of the site. Dawn’s bid was successful and land-purchase negotiations are in progress. studioKAP have ongoing responsibility for the social housing component of the proposals, presently comprising some 65 dwellings and a new child-care facility, focussed around the historic building and boundary wall elements that form the western edge of the site.
http://www.studiokap.com/media/images/projects/1_block_elevation_.jpg
http://www.studiokap.com/media/images/projects/2_block_interior_skit.jpg
http://www.studiokap.com/media/images/projects/4_wall_section.jpg
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 06:09 AM While I agree with what you're saying, I don't know where you are going to get the people to fill these gap sites. The population is declining/showing no growth so to fill these sites, you're going to have to move the people from other areas in the city.
In my opinion the city will continue to show no population growth until such time as these areas are filled. This new density and vibrancy will in turn attract new people to live in the city. It's a virtuous circle. Only then should the population start to radiate outwards.
Personally, I don't think being very close to the inner city area will appeal to many with families; these areas are really for commercial, expensive flats and are less for large residential areas which, traditionally, is further out ie Maryhill, Ibrox, Govan etc. This is mirrored across the UK and probably further afield.
Regarding the population, there was talk some time ago of creating a 'supercity' whereby, through immigration, the city expands; whether or not this happens, who knows, but immigration and asylum will continue, perhaps instead of placing them in the really run down areas of Sighthill and Springburn, they could be moved into the new regenerated areas, along with others, mixing race and crede and, hopefully, helping to produce a more tolerant, respectful and friendly society. It's my opinion that moving an entire race into one area creates a division ie Pollokshields and you end up with a fragmented society.
I know I was going slightly off topic there, but the point is that the population can increase through immigration and that the inner areas should be centered around business and entertainment, as it is, with the residential communities further afield.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 06:13 AM Is this the area that is all grass now?
milton March 15th, 2010, 11:12 AM I could be wrong on this, but I believe the population decline has halted now. In fact, did we not see a small rise last year or the year before?
foswellplace March 15th, 2010, 12:24 PM Population projections for Scotland, including immigration, show a fractional increase, no more than 150,000, according to the median projections until 2050. Almost all net increases will occur in the East and the North, with the county of East Lothian, for example, gaining 15,000.
These figures have been produced by the Scottish Government, in conjunction with Eurostat, the statistics bureau, in Brussels, of the EU.
There will NOT be any increases in population in the West, including Glasgow, during the 21st century, other than the odd thousand. The city needs to follow the example of ALL other cities in the UK, and built pleasant suburbs full of detached housing, such as Greenlaw Park. It is indicative that the ONLY district in the West of Scotland which will increase its population is...East Renfrewshire!
All talk of a growing population and increasing density is NONSENSE!
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 01:10 PM Population projections for Scotland, including immigration, show a fractional increase, no more than 150,000, according to the median projections until 2050. Almost all net increases will occur in the East and the North, with the county of East Lothian, for example, gaining 15,000.
These figures have been produced by the Scottish Government, in conjunction with Eurostat, the statistics bureau, in Brussels, of the EU.
There will NOT be any increases in population in the West, including Glasgow, during the 21st century, other than the odd thousand. The city needs to follow the example of ALL other cities in the UK, and built pleasant suburbs full of detached housing, such as Greenlaw Park. It is indicative that the ONLY district in the West of Scotland which will increase its population is...East Renfrewshire!
All talk of a growing population and increasing density is NONSENSE!
It's not nonsense as these are only estimations, what you've got to ask is why the population is projected to increase in the east and north. Better housing? More jobs? Simply writing it off doesn't help.
milton March 15th, 2010, 01:59 PM Population projections for Scotland, including immigration, show a fractional increase, no more than 150,000, according to the median projections until 2050. Almost all net increases will occur in the East and the North, with the county of East Lothian, for example, gaining 15,000.
These figures have been produced by the Scottish Government, in conjunction with Eurostat, the statistics bureau, in Brussels, of the EU.
There will NOT be any increases in population in the West, including Glasgow, during the 21st century, other than the odd thousand. The city needs to follow the example of ALL other cities in the UK, and built pleasant suburbs full of detached housing, such as Greenlaw Park. It is indicative that the ONLY district in the West of Scotland which will increase its population is...East Renfrewshire!
All talk of a growing population and increasing density is NONSENSE!
I'll see what I can find, but seem to recall a bit in one of the papers saying that various within-boundary schemes such as Glasgow Harbour were responsible for Glasgow posting the first pop increase for 50 years.
Gommsta March 15th, 2010, 03:04 PM Population projections for Scotland, including immigration, show a fractional increase, no more than 150,000, according to the median projections until 2050. Almost all net increases will occur in the East and the North, with the county of East Lothian, for example, gaining 15,000.
These figures have been produced by the Scottish Government, in conjunction with Eurostat, the statistics bureau, in Brussels, of the EU.
There will NOT be any increases in population in the West, including Glasgow, during the 21st century, other than the odd thousand. The city needs to follow the example of ALL other cities in the UK, and built pleasant suburbs full of detached housing, such as Greenlaw Park. It is indicative that the ONLY district in the West of Scotland which will increase its population is...East Renfrewshire!
All talk of a growing population and increasing density is NONSENSE!
It is only nonsense if we maintain the status quo. Clearly there are things that can be done to reverse these trends and attract more people back into the city. That is a long term goal.
We cannot just lie back and do nothing and say "That's the way it is, things will never change".
The city grew in the past for a variety of reasons, then it declined with associated population decrease. Who is to say what will happen in the future with proper investment and perhaps some new industries being established in the city.
I acknowledge that as things stand there is a decrease/no real change in population in the city, as I wrote in previous posts. I am talking about the clearing of areas on the outskirts of the city and repopulating the inner core with existing population. This is happening already in a number of American cities and there is no reason whatsoever that it could not work here.
The key is for the people to WANT to do this and to make the areas they move to attractive with all the amenities and infrastructure required.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 03:20 PM It is only nonsense if we maintain the status quo. Clearly there are things that can be done to reverse these trends and attract more people back into the city. That is a long term goal.
We cannot just lie back and do nothing and say "That's the way it is, things will never change".
The city grew in the past for a variety of reasons, then it declined with associated population decrease. Who is to say what will happen in the future with proper investment and perhaps some new industries being established in the city.
I acknowledge that as things stand there is a decrease/no real change in population in the city, as I wrote in previous posts. I am talking about the clearing of areas on the outskirts of the city and repopulating the inner core with existing population. This is happening already in a number of American cities and there is no reason whatsoever that it could not work here.
The key is for the people to WANT to do this and to make the areas they move to attractive with all the amenities and infrastructure required.
Gommsta, leaving population to the side, do you not run the risk of overcrowding the inner city with housing and an outer core which is full of spare land? I don't see the appeal of this. As I said before, most people would like their family homes on the outer part of the city, with flats, business, entertainment and offices in the inner. What's the appeal of changing that?
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 04:36 PM Population projections for Scotland, including immigration, show a fractional increase, no more than 150,000, according to the median projections until 2050. Almost all net increases will occur in the East and the North, with the county of East Lothian, for example, gaining 15,000.
These figures have been produced by the Scottish Government, in conjunction with Eurostat, the statistics bureau, in Brussels, of the EU.
There will NOT be any increases in population in the West, including Glasgow, during the 21st century, other than the odd thousand. The city needs to follow the example of ALL other cities in the UK, and built pleasant suburbs full of detached housing, such as Greenlaw Park. It is indicative that the ONLY district in the West of Scotland which will increase its population is...East Renfrewshire!
All talk of a growing population and increasing density is NONSENSE!
I work closely in this field...
The City of Glasgow halted the decline in poplulation from 2001 onwards. The population was sitting at a low of around 577,000. Between 2002 and 2004 the population stabilised and remained around the 578,000 mark. From 2005 onwards, there has been a gradual increase year on year up to 581,000 in 2007 up to 584,200 presently. An increase of 7200 may not seem much but it is a significant change from where the city was.
Secondly, Glasgow is forecast to grow gradually over the next 15 years.
2009 - 585,796
2010 - 587,335
2011 - 588,642
2012 - 589,782
2013 - 590,733
2014 - 591,499
2015 - 592,139
2016 - 592,807
2017 - 593,464
2018 - 594,085
2019 - 594,633
2020 - 595,097
2021 - 595,458
2022 - 595,706
2023 - 595,861
2024 - 595,908
There will also be a gradual increase in North Lanarkshire and a slightly larger increases in South Lanarkshire.
East Dunbartonshire and East Renfrewshire are projected to decline in population. Albeit very slight declines. For example East Renfrewshire will decline from 89,200 to 87,919.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 04:49 PM Interesting. So it is actually projected to increase then.
milton March 15th, 2010, 05:26 PM Gommsta, leaving population to the side, do you not run the risk of overcrowding the inner city with housing and an outer core which is full of spare land? I don't see the appeal of this. As I said before, most people would like their family homes on the outer part of the city, with flats, business, entertainment and offices in the inner. What's the appeal of changing that?
No-one wants overcrowding, but we have more derelict land than a hell of a lot of other cities. Some of this I'd like to see kept open, of course, some I'd like to see end up with commercial developments, but yes, a lot should be given to housing. The primary appeal of this to me is the silly, exceptionally tight, boundary of Glasgow "city". The more homes within the city, the more tax going into the city, the more cash available to help continue the regeneration process.
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 05:34 PM Interesting. So it is actually projected to increase then.
Yes.
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 05:36 PM No-one wants overcrowding, but we have more derelict land than a hell of a lot of other cities. Some of this I'd like to see kept open, of course, some I'd like to see end up with commercial developments, but yes, a lot should be given to housing. The primary appeal of this to me is the silly, exceptionally tight, boundary of Glasgow "city". The more homes within the city, the more tax going into the city, the more cash available to help continue the regeneration process.
Agreed.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 05:50 PM No-one wants overcrowding, but we have more derelict land than a hell of a lot of other cities. Some of this I'd like to see kept open, of course, some I'd like to see end up with commercial developments, but yes, a lot should be given to housing. The primary appeal of this to me is the silly, exceptionally tight, boundary of Glasgow "city". The more homes within the city, the more tax going into the city, the more cash available to help continue the regeneration process.
So are you talking about extending the boundary of the city?
milton March 15th, 2010, 06:17 PM So are you talking about extending the boundary of the city?
No, although personally I'd like that. I just mean that within the existing boundary there is a lot of vacant land. Much of it would be better used for housing.
foswellplace March 15th, 2010, 06:25 PM Government figures project that the population of Glasgow will increase from 587,335 in 2010 to 592,672 in 2033. 5,000 in 23 years! Not exactly a rival for Sao Paolo, Shanghai or Mexico city then...!
Let's accept that we have a city of roughly half a million people, within the boundaries, with roughly another half million outside...and concentrate on building good suburban housing for our citizens. More Knightswoods and Milngavies...no more Red Roads or Drumchapels.
Source HM Government Population Estimates, Scotland, published 2008.
Google it and see....
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 06:34 PM Government figures project that the population of Glasgow will increase from 587,335 in 2010 to 592,672 in 2033. 5,000 in 23 years! Not exactly a rival for Sao Paolo, Shanghai or Mexico city then...!
Let's accept that we have a city of roughly half a million people, within the boundaries, with roughly another half million outside...and concentrate on building good suburban housing for our citizens. More Knightswoods and Milngavies...no more Red Roads or Drumchapels.
Source HM Government Population Estimates, Scotland, published 2008.
Google it and see....
Nobody is arguing with you Foswell. What we do need to do is dispel the myth that the city population is still in decline, it is not. I agree we do need more Knightswoods, Mossparks, Milngavies and other such decent suburban areas. But we also need to be promoting the good in Glasgow and the good progress the city has made over the last 2 decades - it certainly doesn't help when people wrongly state that the population is in decline. A declining population has all sorts of impacts on funding, investment and general perception.
We don't need to be growing at a phenomenal rate to be successful, in fact a slow and gradual increase is much much more sustainable. Look what happened when Glasgow boomed the last time.
Softly softly catchee Monkey :lol:
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 07:07 PM No, although personally I'd like that. I just mean that within the existing boundary there is a lot of vacant land. Much of it would be better used for housing.
Yep I agree with you there. Proper family housing - semi detached, detached housing with gardens etc. Regenerating these areas in the outer part of the city would likely encourage more families to live in Glasgow, instead of outwith.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 07:10 PM Government figures project that the population of Glasgow will increase from 587,335 in 2010 to 592,672 in 2033. 5,000 in 23 years! Not exactly a rival for Sao Paolo, Shanghai or Mexico city then...!
Let's accept that we have a city of roughly half a million people, within the boundaries, with roughly another half million outside...and concentrate on building good suburban housing for our citizens. More Knightswoods and Milngavies...no more Red Roads or Drumchapels.
Source HM Government Population Estimates, Scotland, published 2008.
Google it and see....
I agree with you, but I have to ask, what is the difference between Drumchapel and Knightswood?
I don't think the council will make the mistake of high rise flats again, thank God, but flats and houses in the style of the new Gorbals, for example, would be good for inner city.
Regarding your comments on the population increase, an increase is an increase, and I think most other UK cities will have slow population growth as well.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 07:12 PM Nobody is arguing with you Foswell. What we do need to do is dispel the myth that the city population is still in decline, it is not. I agree we do need more Knightswoods, Mossparks, Milngavies and other such decent suburban areas. But we also need to be promoting the good in Glasgow and the good progress the city has made over the last 2 decades - it certainly doesn't help when people wrongly state that the population is in decline. A declining population has all sorts of impacts on funding, investment and general perception.
We don't need to be growing at a phenomenal rate to be successful, in fact a slow and gradual increase is much much more sustainable. Look what happened when Glasgow boomed the last time.
Softly softly catchee Monkey :lol:
It's the census next year isn't it? It'll be my first time doing this myself. Is it just filling in your details like the electoral roll?
milton March 15th, 2010, 07:37 PM Government figures project that the population of Glasgow will increase from 587,335 in 2010 to 592,672 in 2033. 5,000 in 23 years! Not exactly a rival for Sao Paolo, Shanghai or Mexico city then...!
Let's accept that we have a city of roughly half a million people, within the boundaries, with roughly another half million outside...and concentrate on building good suburban housing for our citizens. More Knightswoods and Milngavies...no more Red Roads or Drumchapels.
Source HM Government Population Estimates, Scotland, published 2008.
Google it and see....
Considering we were losing something thousands every year, any increase, or even a stabilising, is actually a very significant change to the trend.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 07:54 PM Is Glasgow still the 4th largest UK city?
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 07:55 PM I agree with you, but I have to ask, what is the difference between Drumchapel and Knightswood?
I don't think the council will make the mistake of high rise flats again, thank God, but flats and houses in the style of the new Gorbals, for example, would be good for inner city.
Regarding your comments on the population increase, an increase is an increase, and I think most other UK cities will have slow population growth as well.
You're right. Most other *major* UK cities are projected to increase slowly such as Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds and Bristol. some are projected to decline slowly such as Newcastle, Hull, Liverpool and possibly Belfast but the jury is out on that one at the moment.
Milton is right, Glasgow was losing thousands every year and is now gaining between 700-1000 every year. Very much in line with most other large UK cities.
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 08:06 PM Yep I agree with you there. Proper family housing - semi detached, detached housing with gardens etc. Regenerating these areas in the outer part of the city would likely encourage more families to live in Glasgow, instead of outwith.
That's Glasgow's biggest issue with population decline. A lot of people don't leave *Glasgow* as such, they just move outside the tight boundary to the suburbs. Understandably, the quieter suburban lifestyle, back and front gardens etc appeals. Glasgow has finally caught on to this and is addressing the issue with decent privately owned family housing. Some good examples of this are Robroyston, Darnley, Southpark, South Nitshill, Broomhouse, Crookston etc. Much more is still required but it is happening slowly but surely.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 08:09 PM That's Glasgow's biggest issue with population decline. A lot of people don't leave *Glasgow* as such, they just move outside the tight boundary to the suburbs. Understandably, the quieter suburban lifestyle, back and front gardens etc appeals. Glasgow has finally caught on to this and is addressing the issue with decent privately owned family housing. Some good examples of this are Robroyston, Darnley, Southpark, South Nitshill, Broomhouse, Crookston etc. Much more is still required but it is happening slowly but surely.
I've noticed some new houses being built on the other side of the M77, opposite to South Park, not sure what district it is, Nitshill probably.
It is good that they are doing something about that, because they need to cater for all types of people if Glasgow is to become a popular choice to settle.
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 08:11 PM Is Glasgow still the 4th largest UK city?
Yes and will continue to be.
1. London, 2. Birmingham, 3. Manchester, 4. Glasgow if you count the urban conurbations (true reflection IMO).
1. London, 2. Birmingham, 3. Leeds, 4. Glasgow if you count the city council areas only.
RapidTaco March 15th, 2010, 08:14 PM I've noticed some new houses being built on the other side of the M77, opposite to South Park, not sure what district it is, Nitshill probably.
It is good that they are doing something about that, because they need to cater for all types of people if Glasgow is to become a popular choice to settle.
They've been building on both sides of the M77. But yes, you're probably seeing Darnley, South Nitshill up on the hill and Southpark Village to your left when coming down into Glasgow on the M77. On the right you'll see the newly built houses of Deaconsbank, another area where a large number of new build family homes have gone up recently.
legolamb March 15th, 2010, 08:23 PM You're right. Most other *major* UK cities are projected to increase slowly such as Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds and Bristol. some are projected to decline slowly such as Newcastle, Hull, Liverpool and possibly Belfast but the jury is out on that one at the moment.
Sorry to be a bit pedantic, but this is incorrect in relation to Hull. The actual city boundary area population (which doesn't include much of the built up area) has increased between the 2001 census (243,595) and the estimated 2008 figure (258,700) and is projected to continue growing.
Sol00 March 15th, 2010, 08:39 PM Yes and will continue to be.
1. London, 2. Birmingham, 3. Manchester, 4. Glasgow if you count the urban conurbations (true reflection IMO).
1. London, 2. Birmingham, 3. Leeds, 4. Glasgow if you count the city council areas only.
When you say urban conurbations, in relation to Manchester, do you mean Greater Mancs, including Bolton etc?
leadensky March 15th, 2010, 11:42 PM According to the document, Manchester includes Bolton though Glasgow doesn't seem to include outlying Motherwell or Hamilton.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/buildings/urban-areas-uk.jpg
1 - London (8.3 million, density 5100 people per square km)
2 - West Midlands (2.8 million, density 3800)
3 - Manchester (2.2 million, density 4000)
4 - West Yorkshire (1.5 million, density 4100)
5 - Glasgow (1.2 million, density 3200)
6 - Tyneside (0.88 million, density 4200)
7 - Liverpool (0.82 million, density 4400)
8 - Nottingham (0.67 million, density 4200)
9 - Sheffield (0.64 million, density 3900)
10 - Bristol (0.55 million, density 3900)
Office of National Statistics : Urban Areas (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloa...UrbanAreas.pdf)
RapidTaco March 16th, 2010, 11:32 AM We could go on for ages debating the stats of urban areas. The main problem being that England and Scotland look at them slightly differently. In the real world i.e the urban areas (where the buildings stop), then Glasgow is the fourth largest city and urban area.
asdfg March 16th, 2010, 12:18 PM Is Glasgow still the 4th largest UK city?
I've always known Glasgow as the third largest city in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_United_Kingdom_settlements_by_population
Sol00 March 16th, 2010, 03:51 PM I always thought it was Leeds. I wouldn't take what Wikipedia says as gospel.
milton March 16th, 2010, 04:36 PM Fok always say that about wiki, but try editing something deliberately wrongly, and see how long it lasts. It's a hell of a tightly controlled these days.
It's academic anyway, as there are "official" links at the bottom of each wiki page, so it usually takes a matter of seconds to research an alternative source.
M_Riaz March 18th, 2010, 09:09 PM BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8331748.stm)
I could hardly belive my ears when i heard on the news tonight that Parkhead was the most deprived place in Scotland,did a wee search and found this...Scotland.Gov.Uk (http://simd.scotland.gov.uk/Glasgow-City/Parkhead-West-and-Barrowfield/SIMD2009/SIMD/MostDeprived/RedToBlue/)
Quite a diabolical label to have for a city of our status, hence why the cooncil have brought the CWG and the EELDS to these areas, but am still in shock after hearing and reading the stats of the area.
Hurry up and fix it Glesga ! :)
RapidTaco March 19th, 2010, 03:53 PM BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8331748.stm)
I could hardly belive my ears when i heard on the news tonight that Parkhead was the most deprived place in Scotland,did a wee search and found this...Scotland.Gov.Uk (http://simd.scotland.gov.uk/Glasgow-City/Parkhead-West-and-Barrowfield/SIMD2009/SIMD/MostDeprived/RedToBlue/)
Quite a diabolical label to have for a city of our status, hence why the cooncil have brought the CWG and the EELDS to these areas, but am still in shock after hearing and reading the stats of the area.
Hurry up and fix it Glesga ! :)
It didn't surprise me at all to be honest. Where did you think the most deprived area in Scotland would be Mo?
Chris99 March 19th, 2010, 06:33 PM BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8331748.stm)
I could hardly belive my ears when i heard on the news tonight that Parkhead was the most deprived place in Scotland,did a wee search and found this...Scotland.Gov.Uk (http://simd.scotland.gov.uk/Glasgow-City/Parkhead-West-and-Barrowfield/SIMD2009/SIMD/MostDeprived/RedToBlue/)
Quite a diabolical label to have for a city of our status, hence why the cooncil have brought the CWG and the EELDS to these areas, but am still in shock after hearing and reading the stats of the area.
Hurry up and fix it Glesga ! :)
Would it shock you to hear that in parts of the east end males have a life expectancy of under 54?
M_Riaz March 19th, 2010, 07:21 PM It didn't surprise me at all to be honest. Where did you think the most deprived area in Scotland would be Mo?
In all honesty i thought it was Govan for many a year because of the shipping demise over the years and the brush it had been tared with over time when the cooncil had forgot about the area, but the recent transformations in regeneration of the likes of PQ i felt that this area and indeeed the whole of the south river bank have been progressing through different government initiatives and development strategies.
Parkhead never did i think it was near the poverty lines that they have found.
i guess out of sight is out of mind as they say for no reason that i cant think of.
Better late than never hopefully great things to come with the redevelopment of the east end in the next decade. :)
RapidTaco March 22nd, 2010, 04:06 PM Would it shock you to hear that in parts of the east end males have a life expectancy of under 54?
To be fair, the reason that the Calton comes out with that life expectancy is due to the fact the area is fairly small and it has somethinglike 3 or 4 homeless shelters located within it. The deaths from alcohol and drugs are way higher in these homes and that's why the statistic is so high there. The papers make a meal of it as always though.
M_Riaz April 9th, 2010, 08:48 PM ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/editor-s-picks-ignore/new-jobs-hope-for-old-east-end-site-1.1019488)
New jobs hope for old East End site
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Published on 9 Apr 2010
One of Britain’s biggest companies is in secret talks about relocating to a business park in Glasgow which has yet to be built.
It is a major boost to the East End and will bring 1500 jobs to an area where regeneration officials are spending millions of pounds on a major transformation.
Talks have been taking place between officials at the Clyde Gateway Urban Regeneration Company and a major UK business which is considering moving around 100 workers to a new service depot from an existing location outwith the city boundary.
And there is growing optimism that the service depot could be one of the first units built at a new £35 million business park. Called Clyde Gateway East, it will border London Road between Auchenshuggle and St Peter’s Dalbeth Cemetery.
Clyde Gateway chief executive Ian Manson today refused to discuss details but admitted: “A number of potential leads are being followed up, including some very well known names.”
The boost came on a day when construction firm McAlpine was brought in by regeneration bosses to begin transforming more than 34 acres of derelict land into Glasgow’s newest business location.
Officials plan to fill a citywide shortage of industrial space by marketing the site as an ideal location for that sector. Just 20% will house office developments while the rest will be dedicated to industrial users.
With the site offering easy access to the country’s main transport routes, including the M74 extension, there is real optimism the new park will be a massive hit with the business community.
Mr Manson said: “This is the first location many people will see as they approach the city from the east.
“We want them to decide that this is where they wish to locate their businesses.
“The first occupants are expected to occupy their buildings by spring 2011.”
We believe we have a location here which is second to none Clyde Gateway chief executive Ian Manson
We are aiming to influence investment decisions both locally and outwith the city and the UK, with every size of company from small and medium enterprises to multi-nationals on our radar.
“There is an acute shortage of good quality small and medium sized light industrial space within Glasgow and we believe we have a location here which is second to none, only minutes away from the 2014 Commonwealth Games developments with unrivalled transport links.”
East End councillor George Ryan added: “This development is an opportunity for companies to relocate, develop and grow in this area, which is so important to the future growth of Glasgow’s economy. It will bring many jobs to an area of high unemployment.”
The site covers more than 34 acres of land which have lain derelict for more than 30 years. It provided coal from the Easterhill Colliery from the 1750s and was the site of the Clyde Iron Works.
Built on a Bronze Age burial site, the steel plant went into production in 1786. By the early 20th century it was the biggest steelworks in Scotland with a workforce of 10,000. But cheap foreign steel eroded the UK industry and in 1978 the plant was axed.
Bringing the site back to life is being backed by Stuart Patrick, chief executive of Glasgow Chamber of Commerce. He said: “It’s very encouraging that this development is going ahead on a brownfield site.
“This business park will be incredibly important to the regeneration of the East End and congratulations to Clyde Gateway for pulling it together.”
The development will also offer a handful of local youngsters the chance to learn a new trade. The jobs guarantee has been given by Andrew McAlpine, the great, great great grandson of construction magnate Sir Robert.
He said: “Like Clyde Gateway, McAlpine has a substantial commitment to the East End of Glasgow. We have started the process of finding eight workers from the immediate area to join our team here.”
McAlpine’s are also building a £113m sports arena and cycling track close by for the 2014 Commonwealth Games and the business park will include a path to the River Clyde walkway, opening up new routes for walkers and cyclists to the Games village and to Cambuslang.
TIMES FILE
The site has been in use since Iron Age times when it was used as a burial ground.
Clyde Iron Works and the Easterhill Colliery opened there in the 1750s when tobacco merchant Archibald Smellie began exploratory coal mining works across the eastern section of his estate. The estate was sold in the 1780s to Robert Findlay.
An 1895 map of the area shows Easterhill Colliery alongside the iron works – by then employing 10,000 men – with an associated rail yard and siding.
Easterhill House was demolished in 1930. Photographs from the 1960s shows small industrial operations to the north west of the site, but these had ceased operations by the 1970s.
In 1977, the Clyde Iron Works closed and all the railway sidings were removed from the site. Slag heaps were removed over the following years, and the land has lain vacant since.
M_Riaz April 11th, 2010, 01:15 AM The Barras Story (http://www.diversityfilms.org.uk/TheBarrasStory.html)
The Barras Story is a community-led heritage and learning project using archive photography, film and oral history to explore the social, cultural, historical and economic importance of the Barras Market to the East End of Glasgow.
Set-up in 1921 by Maggie McIver, the traders and past customers today remember the market's hey-day, when 'spielers' would turn selling into a stage show, shifting their wares as quickly as their razor-sharp patter would allow. People once came from all over Scotland to search for bargains at the Barras.
The project will tell the story of the Barras from its beginnings to when it was still going strong in the 80's.The days people want to remember the Barras for, rather than today when it is more known for criminal gangs peddling contraband - one of the reasons Scotland's most famous market could be shut down.
http://www.diversityfilms.org.uk/images/Barras15_Glasgow.jpg
M_Riaz May 28th, 2010, 12:01 AM ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/editor-s-picks/10m-flats-to-help-addicted-young-mums-1.1030716)
£10m flats to help addicted young mums
27 May 2010
Building work has started on a flats development which will provide a helping hand for young mothers battling against drug and drink addictions.
The flats are part of a £10million development by Thenew Housing Association, which says the project reflects its strong commitment to building homes in the communities it serves.
The block of 32 apartments is being built in the London Road/Green Street area near Bridgeton Cross.
Aberlour Child Care Trust will use 12 flats on the ground floor to provide family accommodation following the closure of similar services in the Castlemilk and Kelvinside areas.
Mothers with children aged 12 and under will live in the block for up to six months before returning to their own communities.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/polopoly_fs/9275478-1.1030717!image/4217474635.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/4217474635.JPG
foswellplace May 28th, 2010, 12:09 AM What an absolutely hideous building.... Could it be any worse? It looks like some ghastly seventies "thing" ready to be knocked down. Couldn't we just have a row of tenements, three or four storeys, in sandstone if possible, or if not in a reddish brick colour, to carry the line forward from the existing tenements, and try to reconstitute a small section of London Road?
If these were being built for sale, would any private developer, needing to sell them, accept such a visually unappealing design?
No, I don't think so either.
Monkey9000 May 28th, 2010, 12:28 AM If these were being built for sale, would any private developer, needing to sell them, accept such a visually unappealing design?.
:doh: Hmmmmm..... Have you been walking around Glasgow with your eyes shut the last few years?
djmaxliving May 29th, 2010, 06:24 PM Don't think this image has been posted on here, looks good.
FUNDING PACKAGE AGREED FOR DALMARNOCK STATION
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A partnership approach to provide funding for an £8m upgrade of Dalmarnock Station has proven succesful with the announcment by John Swinney MSP, the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth, that the project has been succesful in securing funding from the European Regional Development Fund.
Clyde Gateway, Glasgow City Council and Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (SPT) had previously committed themselves to the project and now the Government agency Transport Scotland as well as Network Rail will be getting on board thanks to the ERDF grant of almost £3m.
The upgrade will see the station entrance being relocated from Swanston Street onto Dalmarnock Road, new lifts, stairways, improved lighting and repairs to the station platforms and walls. The station is going to be heavily used by spectators travelling to Commonwealth Games venues such as the new NISA and Velodrome but its impact is going to be felt well beyond 2014.
http://www.clydegateway.com/pages/clyde_gateway_news.php
Due East July 19th, 2010, 11:23 AM Edd McCracken, Arts Correspondent
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/from-bric-a-brac-to-to-cutting-edge-style-the-new-barras-1.1042021
18 Jul 2010
A shopping list for a trip to Glasgow’s Barras traditionally includes bric-a-brac of varying vintages and fruit and veg.
But part of the team behind The Château, Glasgow’s version of Warhol’s Factory that birthed Franz Ferdinand, intends adding cutting edge fashion, one-off items of jewellery and hand-made accessories to that list.
Some of Scotland’s most exciting young fashion talents are moving to a disused courtyard in the centre of the Barras, intent on bringing high fashion to the gritty east end market.
Stalls selling their exclusive threads for hundreds of pounds a pop will sit beside the more traditional antique and fruit and veg stalls.
The colonisation is being masterminded by Camille Lorigo, a New Yorker who relocated to Scotland five years ago. Her previous venture, Che Camille, a boutique and workshop in Buchanan Street lauded in Vogue and Nylon magazines, closed its doors yesterday.
Lorigo, along with scores of other designers, are forsaking the instant glamour and high rent of the city centre and are taking over the Barras Centre, an under-used building in the middle of the markets.
“I’m excited,” she said. “We’ve been at The Château, Saltmarket and Buchanan Street, but being here suits us more. We are more interested in doing the regeneration thing, so this is meaning something.”
Built in 1990, and featuring an arched glass roof illuminated by red neon lights, the Barras Centre has struggled to find a permanent resident for years. In 2002 a feng shui expert was brought in to make it more appealing to prospective tenants – but with little luck.
Lorigo will use the centre as a base for her own label, workshop and outlet.
“It’s a place we can put our mark on, call our own, give it bit of an atmosphere,” said Lorigo. “The city centre is so heavily regulated. For example in Buchanan Street we were not allowed signage. There was a list of things we couldn’t do because we were in a Grade A-listed building. It was too difficult. But this, in the Barras, is a gem.”
She plans to hold fashion shows in the courtyard, put live music on in the licensed café attached to the building, and will encourage the designers to take advantage of the market stall pitch that tenants get on a Saturday.
Lorigo has yet to name her new venture, but said there were around 15 units on six-month leases available. Each unit is big enough to share between three individuals. Already textile, fashion, jewellery, and bike designers have signed up.
One such label is Obscure Couture, run by Jennifer Cole and Lindsay Pagan, textile graduates from Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh. The pair, who specialise in “Victoriana punk”, were previously located within Che Camille in Buchanan Street. They are looking forward to the move.
“It’s a massive change, moving from a glamorous city centre location to the Barras,” said Coyle, 24. “But we can take everything we have down there, the buzz, the people, the creative community, and install it down there. It is strong enough to stand on its own. We hope we will revitalise the area.”
Obscure Couture will be selling some of its “street stage wear for the introverted extrovert” – average price £400 – during the Barras Saturday market.
The move could prove a canny one. The Barras will be on the front line of Commonwealth Games regeneration. The main thoroughfare venues in 2014 will be through the Barras, rather than the waterfront.
Before that, Lorigo is planning events to coincide with the Proms In The Park and the World Pipe Band Championships on nearby Glasgow Green. A new student residence is also planned for the area.
There will be an open house at the Barras Centre this Thursday at 1pm for all designers interested in moving in. It will officially open to the public in August.
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Could this be the start of the Barra's renaissance? It would be good to see the council step in here and offer some support!!
M_Riaz September 9th, 2010, 02:43 PM urban realm (http://www.urbanrealm.co.uk/news/2528/Great_Eastern_Hotel_redevelopment_nears_completion.html)
Milnbank Housing Association’s £14m redevelopment of the A listed Great Eastern Hotel, Glasgow, has reached external completion.
It will provide 48 flats for social rent and 60 homes for private sale alongside a community nursery built by Campbell Construction Group.
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maccoinnich September 9th, 2010, 09:42 PM Jesus.
Due East September 10th, 2010, 10:29 AM I like this. The picture doesn't do it any justice. The new bit may be a bit banal, but they have managed to bring this great old building into modern usage. Duke Street is starting to shape up nicely!
morphology September 10th, 2010, 11:25 AM wow. it doesn't get much worse than that. wow.
Adieu8 September 10th, 2010, 12:13 PM Think its pretty awful. Couldn't they have built the new block coming out the back of the original block and perpendicular to it? This I reckon would have been a far better idea. The new block now just takes away from the original plus it looks even worse cause its unsymmetrical.
M_Riaz September 10th, 2010, 02:47 PM ITEM 1(c) (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/councillorsandcommittees/viewDoc.asp?c=e%97%9Df%8Fnz%8A) (13 pages)
GSV (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl)
14 September 2010
SITE AND DESCRIPTION
The application relates to part of the former Kenmuir Tip which stretches from Hamilton Road in the north to
London Road in the south. The site measures 6.8 ha and is part owned by the City Council.
To the north of the site are residential properties located on the north side of Hamilton Road. To the south are
various industrial premises located on the south side of London Road. To the east is a church and depot
warehouse. To the west is a DIY retail warehouse and car sales complex.
It is proposed to erect a retail warehouse (class 1) which would incorporate a convenience foodstore. The
warehouse would have a floor area of 26,500 square metres over two levels and be formed with one main
entrance and canopy feature. The ground floor would be occupied by the foodstore with a floorspace of 10,000
square metres. The foodstore would also include a café. The upper floor and part of the ground floor, would be
used for the retail warehouse with a floorspace of 16,500 square metres. The building would be located in the
rear part of the site facing London Road with car parking to the front and east of the proposal (1,192 spaces).
Vehicular access for customers would be taken from London Road and a new access road with roundabout
would be formed. A signalised junction is proposed on London Road in order to accommodate the increase in
traffic flow. Service access would be taken from an existing service access on Hamilton Road to the rear of the
proposal. This currently serves a DIY warehouse.
M_Riaz September 21st, 2010, 04:37 PM I like this one...beautiful clean simple lines. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
GA (http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/shettleston_housing_association_offices.htm)
Shettleston Housing Association Offices
65 Pettigrew Street
Shettleston
The creation of Shettleston Housing Associations Office involved the adaptive restoration of the Co-operative Hall; a historically, culturally and architecturally significant building within Shettleston, to create new office and public reception space which will afford the Association the opportunity to further expand and to continue to effectively serve the local community for the foreseeable future.
http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/images/jpgs/pettigrew_street_e170910_al7.jpg
http://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/images/jpgs/pettigrew_street_e170910_al3.jpg
Monkey9000 September 21st, 2010, 04:42 PM :okay: Very Nice
Targer September 21st, 2010, 09:21 PM Is that a Basketball court on top, if not what?
M_Riaz October 1st, 2010, 08:40 PM Reference: 10/02217/DC Community Cnl: Calton/Bridgeton
Address: Site Bounded By Gallowgate/Hunter Street/ Barrack Street Glasgow
Proposal: Erection of retail development (Class 1) and community facility, associated vehicular
access, car parking, servicing and landscaping - approval of matters specified in
conditions 1, 4-6, 8, 10, 11, 13-16, 19, 21, 22 and 24 of outline planning permission
09/00294/DC.
Date Received: 08.09.2010 Date Valid: 15.09.2010
Applicant
Details:
MacDonald Estates (Gallowgate) Ltd
Agent Details: 0141 300 8000
James Barr Ltd
226 West George Street GLASGOW G2 2LN
Ward: Calton Representation Expiry Date: 27.10.2010
Type: Full Planning Permission Level: Local Development
Case Officer: Mr S McCollam, 0141 287 6021
Listing: Cons Area:
Map Reference: (E) 260272 (N) 664842
MacDonald Estates (http://www.macdonaldestates.co.uk/content/view/97/369/)
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djmaxliving October 2nd, 2010, 04:06 PM PROPOSALS FOR OLYMPIA GET SEAL OF APPROVAL
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A new state-of-the-art public library, café and training centre for elite athletes have been unveiled as the main future uses for the B-listed Olympia Building at Bridgeton Cross.
Details were provided by the building’s owners, Clyde Gateway at a public consultation meeting held on the 15th September that was attended by almost 50 people largely made up of local residents and local business owners.
Drawings and a model of the building were on display as details were given of plans to construct a ground-floor modern library and learning centre together with a café, to establish of a first-floor training centre and new Headquarters for the governing bodies for amateur boxing and wrestling and to develop top-floor commercial office spaces. The Olympia will remain in the ownership of Clyde Gateway, but Glasgow Life and Sportscotland will be responsible for managing the library and the new sports facilities.
The public meeting was chaired by George Redmond, the local councillor for the Bridgeton area and Board Member of Clyde Gateway. He said "The Olympia is a hugely important symbol of Bridgeton’s rich heritage and it has been very sad to watch it fall into decline in recent years. Everyone was delighted when Clyde Gateway bought the building last year and said it was making it a priority to bring it back into public use."
"A wonderful future has now been secured for the Olympia as the home to the most modern of public libraries and learning centres, with all sorts of regular activities planned for residents of all ages, including IT and computer classes. It is also great news that the design will accommodate a ground-floor café as this is something the Bridgeton area badly needs."
George added, "I’m just as excited by the plans being brought forward by Sportscotland for the upper floors of the Olympia. The idea of a centre of excellence for boxers and wrestlers at Bridgeton along with the construction of the National Indoor Sports Arena and the velodrome across from Celtic Park means that the East End is fast becoming Glasgow’s sports quarter."
"All told, the Olympia is going to be a building in constant use for at least 12 hours a day and will bring a fresh vibrancy to the Bridgeton Cross area. When you add in the construction of the nearby office block for Glasgow Community Safety Services, it is clear that the whole look and feel of the area is changing for the better."
Local resident Lesley Ward said "This is great news. The Olympia is a really special building and everyone of a certain age in Bridgeton and Dalmarnock has got really happy memories of it."
"There’s been a worry among many of us that it was going to become totally derelict and perhaps so dangerous that it would have to be pulled down and something rather ordinary put in its place. But instead Clyde Gateway and the libraries service are going to deliver something really special and in just two years time the Olympia will again be the liveliest building in the community. I can’t wait to see how it is going to turn out."
The overall cost of the proposals is estimated at £10m, including the purchase price of £1.8m paid by Clyde Gateway in September 2009.
The proposals will also see Glasgow Life, in conjunction with Clyde Gateway, develop a different use for the current library building on Landressy Street.
A planning application has already been submitted, and proposes the retention of the historic façade behind which a new, environmentally friendly and energy-efficient building will be constructed.
Work on-site is anticipated to begin in January 2011 with the library opening in Autumn 2012.
http://www.clydegateway.com/pages/clyde_gateway_news.php
M_Riaz November 9th, 2010, 09:42 PM OATLANDS RECOGNISED WITH INDUSTRY COMMENDATION
An innovative and ground breaking development on the south east of Glasgow has been highly commended at a national awards ceremony, in the category of Best Regeneration Project.
The regeneration of Oatlands, a development by Bett Homes, was recognised at The Housebuilder Awards 2010. Bett Homes was the only private house building company recognised with an award in this category.
Work began on the £220m revival of the Oatlands area in April 2005 and approximately 25% of the project has now been completed. The land at Oatlands is being developed through a partnership led by Bett Homes alongside Glasgow City Council. The project comprises a total of 1,275 new homes, the majority of which will be privately owned with a small proportion of rented housing through local housing associations.
Bett Homes’ director, Ian Baird, said: “This is fantastic recognition for Oatlands and the regeneration of this area of the city. This part of Glasgow was once densely populated but numbers dwindled with the loss of heavy industry. However, this innovative development is successfully injecting life back into the area and once again, helping to establish a new thriving community at Oatlands.”
The Housebuilder Awards 2010 were presented at a glittering ceremony, hosted by the broadcaster Huw Edwards, at the Millennium London Mayfair Hotel on 28th October 2010.
The Bett Homes development at Oatlands, adjacent to the New Gorbals, is marketed as Richmond Gate. The development is located just one mile south east of Glasgow’s city centre and combines family living with an abundance of green space at the nearby Richmond Park and Glasgow Green.
www.betthomes.com
GCC Oatlands (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Business/Planning_Development/Oatlands/Planning_Design/)
Regeneration of Oatlands Planning and Architecture
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The regeneration scheme is proceeding in accordance with a detailed Action Plan and Design Guide, produced by Glasgow City Council’s Development & Regeneration Services after extensive local consultation. The document was given an award by the Scottish Executive/RTPI as part of the Scottish Awards for Quality in Planning, 2002 - the judges were particularly impressed by the plan’s emphasis on urban design quality. The Royal Fine Art Commission for Scotland also commended recognition of this vital aspect, while the Glasgow Institute of Architects was “greatly heartened by its very positive attitude and determination”. And the urban design approach is endorsed in the Scottish Executive’s Planning Advice Note 67 on Housing Quality. All development partners are therefore aware of the need to satisfy high expectations.
The Action Plan/Design Guide contains a ‘Test Map’ which demonstrated the practicability of the planning guidelines contained elsewhere in the document and which confirmed the housing capacity of the site.
M_Riaz November 20th, 2010, 01:09 AM 19 November 2010
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-11798215)
Shettleston building wins largest Scottish design award
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Shettleston Housing Association in Glasgow has scooped Scotland's largest architecture prize.
Elder and Cannon Architects received the £25,000 Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland (RIAS) best building award for its extension on the former co-operative halls.
RIAS said the Edwardian red sandstone building was among the area's finest, and it and the new structure had been brought together in a "clever way".
maccoinnich November 20th, 2010, 12:11 PM Well done Elder and Cannon. This has to be—what—the third time they've won this prize? And deservedly so.
foswellplace November 20th, 2010, 12:55 PM Yes, well done.
Looks stunning, both inside and out. Wonderfully compliments the existing building, cleverly extendng the banding on the front elevation, but is also distinct.
gweilo November 20th, 2010, 02:22 PM Good work and good to see them getting it. Deserving firm at the top of their game at the moment.
Which makes the opprobrium being heaped on them for the Artto Hotel proposal at the moment a bit curious. Is it no longer politically correct to remodel a building?
Pious Fraud December 5th, 2010, 04:42 PM Wunderbar Brewing Centre For East End? :cheers:
Waitrose to take award-winning Glasgow lager around the UK
Sunday Herald (5th December 2010)
Independent Glasgow-based brewery West has signed a nationwide supply deal with Waitrose to bring its top-selling lager brand to 200 stores after a successful six-month trial in the upmarket retailer’s three Scottish stores.
West, located at Glasgow Green, was established in 2006 by the Bavarian-born Petra Wetzel. It will supply the high-end grocery chain with 2500 cases per week of St Mungo, its most popular premium lager, with immediate effect.
The brewery, which also operates a restaurant business, achieved a turnover of just under £1 million in 2009-10, St Mungo being by far the biggest revenue earner. The microbrewer claims to be the only brewery in the UK to produce all of its beers in accordance with the “German Purity Law” (Reinheitsgebot) of 1516, which ensured that only the purest beers containing the four core ingredients – water, malt, hops and yeast – were fit for consumption. Certification is used by modern marketers to stress the absence of artificial additives and preservatives within the product.
Based in the landmark former Templeton carpet factory, West has seen sharply rising demand for St Mungo lager, with a 180% leap in sales over the past year.
Sales director Richard McLelland said: “We are thrilled to have signed an exclusive supply deal with a brand renowned for its quality and sourcing integrity in order to offer people a true premium lager which has already developed a huge following.
“Waitrose continues to break new ground by becoming the only grocery chain to stock the only lager brewed in the UK to the highest exacting standards of the German purity laws and the first UK winner of three gold medals from the prestigious German Agricultural Society (Deutsche Landwirtschafts-Gesellschaft). We are excited to be forming what we hope will be a strong and successful partnership.”
David Wyllyams, beer buyer at Waitrose, said: “West is a perfect local partner for us – with quality and purity at its core and a national appeal in line with our customer base.
“We share similar values through our desire to bring the best quality locally-sourced produce to our customers and are confident that we can look to roll out the supply to all of our 230 stores.”
St Mungo and several of West’s beer brands are available nationally through distributors Matthew Clark and Belhaven. The beer can also be found at London’s Met Bar, Turnberry, The Blythswood Hotel and Malmaison in Glasgow.
West plans to build a £6.5m brewing centre of excellence in Glasgow which will be fully operational in 2011 and include a restaurant, arts space and visitors’ centre.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/corporate-sme/waitrose-to-take-award-winning-glasgow-lager-around-the-uk-1.1072470
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Earlier this year Petra Wetzel said that the West brewery was seeking to expand in the East End of Glasgow. The existing brewery in the Templeton building is a quality operation in a marvellous setting. If the £6.5m brewing centre of excellence is built in the East End then it will be a great asset for the area.
djmaxliving December 5th, 2010, 06:06 PM BUSINESS SUITES TO OPEN IN RUTHERGLEN
Work has begun on a project with the potential of bringing 36 new jobs to Rutherglen.
Clyde Gateway is converting the former housing office at 24 Stonelaw Road into business suites as part of their plans to help transform the Rutherglen and Shawfield communities, and in particular to revitalise the economy of Rutherglen Town Centre.
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Going by the name of Red Tree Business Suites, just under 8,500 square feet of business space will be available, made up of twelve different size offices and spaces starting from just under 200 square feet in size. The total cost of the project is £1.6 million, of which Clyde Gateway is contributing just under £1 million with a grant of £650,000 being awarded by the European Regional Development Fund.
Ian Manson, the Chief Executive of Clyde Gateway said “The opening of Red Tree Business Suites will help to kick-start the gradual transformation of the area around Main Street. It is vitally important for Rutherglen Town Centre to have a viable future and bringing new jobs to the area is one way of ensuring this.
“Clyde Gateway wants to provide something attractive to start-up businesses as well as those existing firms and companies who want to occupy modern open-plan spaces at a very affordable and attractive rental.
“Rutherglen is a fantastic location, particularly thanks to its excellent public transport links. There aren’t many towns in Scotland that can boast of at least twelve trains per hour all day long as well as regular bus services to Glasgow and all corners of South Lanarkshire. These are the sort of things which are becoming ever increasingly important to businesses and employers.
“The new suites are flexible enough to support the smallest of businesses imaginable all the way up to offering potential for a single occupant of the first floor taking up more than half of the property. Once all the spaces have been let, as many as 36 people could be employed within the suites.”
The tender to carry out the conversion and refurbishment was won by the Paisley-based Clark Contracts. As part of the community benefits clauses insisted upon by Clyde Gateway in all of their projects, Clark Contracts will be providing four trainees from the Clyde Gateway area a minimum of 13 weeks work experience.
The work is expected to be completed by the end of May 2011, but Clyde Gateway is already marketing the property through letting agents with the aim of having the first occupants move in immediately once the building is ready.
Further information on the Red Tree Business Suites can be found at www.redtreerutherglen.co.uk
http://www.clydegateway.com/pages/clyde_gateway_news.php
Sweet Zombie Jesus December 5th, 2010, 09:03 PM Excellent news about West! Anything that gets their amazing beer out there to more people is good news :cheers:
djmaxliving January 10th, 2011, 06:55 PM Office development for Clyde Gateway, Glasgow
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Funding and construction contracts have been agreed for a multi-million pound office development at a large regeneration scheme in Glasgow.
The Clyde Gateway Urban Regeneration Company (URC) has announced that funding amounting to £10m has been secured from the investment arm of Aviva, enabling the construction of a new office complex to start later this month. The new offices (pictured), amounting to approximately 64,500 sq ft of floor space are to built on a brownfield site in Bridgeton in the east end of Glasgow. The construction contract has been awarded to Dawn Group Ltd a Scottish property development company.
Glasgow City Council has already agreed to a 20-year lease for the building and will use the building, to be known as Eastgate, as offices for Glasgow Community Safety Services (GCSS). GCSS will relocate about 500 staff to the new building who are currently located in various offices across the city. GCSS estimates an annual rental saving of £65,000.
The Clyde Gateway is a long term urban regeneration plan aiming to create a target of 21,000 jobs over the next two decades. The area covers a large part of the east end of Glasgow, including Bridgeton, Dalmarnock and Parkhead and URC plan to redevelop the area with a mix of homes, offices and commercial property of various sizes.
A recent scheme includes the redevelopment of former housing offices into 12 serviced offices. The Red Tree Business Suites complex is expected to be ready for occupation in May, 2011 and will offer 12 office suites starting in size from 200 sq ft that are being targeted at start-up businesses.
The Eastgate scheme will offer Grade A office space within a 4-storey building. A BREEAM rating of ‘Excellent’ is expected to be achieved. The target completion date is February 2012 with the new tenants using the building from April 2012.
http://offices.org.uk/news/office-development-clyde-gateway-glasgow-0104875.html
Pious Fraud January 17th, 2011, 03:06 PM Strathclyde Police plans £38m HQ in East End
Evening Times 17th January 2011
Strathclyde Police is to move to a new £38 million HQ on a rundown site in the East End of Glasgow.
The move is seen as being as important for the area as the 2014 Commonwealth Games.
Scotland’s largest police force has been operating out of a former college building in Pitt Street since 1975.
But the building is described as no longer fit for purpose and according to deputy chief constable Neil Richardson is becoming a bottomless money pit.
He insists the new state-of-the-art HQ on the banks of the Clyde in Dalmarnock – just 800 yards from the Commonwealth Games Village site – will not only be more cost-effective but will also help in the fight against crime.
Mr Richardson said: “The nature of crime is constantly evolving and the threat from domestic and international terrorism remains real and present.
“New ways have to be found to combat crime and terrorism, new ways of working have to be encouraged and staff have to remain motivated to perform at their best.
“A proposed new building is not merely about bricks and mortar, it is about enabling change and delivering improvement in all aspects of the work of the force.
“With Glasgow 2014 fast approaching and a clear aim by public agencies to attract further major events to the force area, more and more scrutiny will be placed on Strathclyde Police to manage events.
“The terrorist attack at Glasgow Airport in 2007 shows the very real threat that exists in our communities from domestic and international extremists.”
The present base in Pitt Street is a warren of small offices which is inefficient, impractical and increasingly expensive to run.
Figures which will go before a special meeting of the Police Authority at the end of this month show a new HQ would cost £2.3m a year to run compared to Pitt Street’s £3.7m.
Selling off the present HQ site in the city centre is expected to raise around £2.3m toward the cost of the new building.
Mr Richardson added: “Relocating to Clyde Gateway will not only be a clear signal that this part of Glasgow is open for business but it will also release a large part of prime real estate.”
The new five-storey HQ, which is expected to open in late 2013, is just over half a mile from Polmadie junction of the new M74 and next to Bridgeton and Dalmarnock stations. It will be the base for around 900 staff.
Mr Richardson admitted the police are facing tough times with budget cuts, redundancies and restructuring to find savings.
Over the next couple of years, Strathclyde Police, which has 8000 officers and just over 2500 support staff, will lose 600 support staff and possibly up to 200 officers.
Stephen Curran, convener of Strathclyde Police Authority, said: “The headquarters building at Pitt Street is not fit for purpose and requires to be replaced.
“The running and repair costs of the current building are a major burden on a significantly reduced budget.” A spokesman for Clyde Gateway said building the new police HQ in Dalmarnock would be as important to the East End as the coming Commonwealth Games.
He added: “The relocation of such a high-profile HQ will be a key part of the transformation of the East End of Glasgow, bringing new jobs to the area and regenerating a key riverside frontage.
“It will demonstrate the Clyde Gateway area is now a very viable business location and we firmly believe the Strathclyde Police HQ will be a catalyst for other investors, developers and occupiers to move to other strategic sites in south Dalmarnock and Shawfield close to the river.
“It will be as important and significant a decision for the East End as that taken by the delegates in Sri Lanka when they awarded the 2014 Commonwealth Games to Glasgow.”
Shettleston MSP Frank McAveety said the new police HQ will provide a boost for local shops and businesses.
He added: “It is good to see a site which has been derelict for a considerable period being developed with a high-quality, high-cost investment.”
Stuart Patrick, chief executive of Glasgow Chamber of Commerce also welcomed the move.
He said: “During a time of public-sector cuts, it is important funds continue to be made available for investment in modern efficient premises which can ultimately reduce running costs. The new East End site would provide good value for money in addition to demonstrating confidence in the regeneration of the area in the lead-up to the 2014 Games and beyond.”
However, Gerry Crawley, regional organiser of Unison, said he was unhappy the force was spending money on a business plan.
He added: “Pitt Street is in wrack and ruin and they need a new building for the staff to work in, but we are not happy Strathclyde Police is spending £350,000 of its budget at a time of financial crisis.
“People are facing redundancy and that money is the equivalent of 15 support staff jobs – so it should come from the Scottish Government.”
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/editor-s-picks/strathclyde-police-plans-38m-hq-in-east-end-1.1080324
Sol00 January 17th, 2011, 05:23 PM I saw this in today's ET and, although I think it's a good plan, I wonder if this is another plan that will go down the drain as soon as it's made public, mainly because of the uncertainty of how the police will be structured in the next 2/3 years.
M_Riaz January 20th, 2011, 10:37 PM Reference: 10/03048/DC Community Cnl: Camlachie (Inactive)
Address: Site At Forge Retail Park/Biggar Street/ Gallowgate Glasgow (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=Biggar+Street%2F+Gallowgate+Glasgow&ie=UTF8&hq=Biggar+Street%2F&hnear=Gallowgate,+Glasgow+G31,+United+Kingdom&ll=55.854317,-4.210392&spn=0.002499,0.010943&t=h&z=17) < (GSV)
Proposal: Reconfiguration of Forge Retail Park including demolition and extensions to provide
foodstore (9,945 square metres) (Class 1), petrol filling station, revised access and
amended parking layout for 1,778 cars (increase of 172 spaces) and landscaping.
Date Received: 23.12.2010 Date Valid: 23.12.2010
Applicant Details:The Forge Retail Park Unit Trust
Agent Details: 0141 222 4101
Savills (L And P) Ltd, 163 West George Street Glasgow G2 2JJ
Ward: Calton Representation
Expiry Date: 04.02.2011
Type: Matters Specified in Conditions Level: Major Development
Case Officer: Mr D Drummond, 0141 287 6067
Listing: Cons Area:Map Reference: (E) 261700 (N) 664590
M_Riaz February 4th, 2011, 08:07 PM ITEM 1 (c) (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/councillorsandcommittees/submissiondocuments.asp?submissionid=48251) (20 pages)
8th February 2011
APPLICATION 10/00131/DC DATE VALID 10.03.2010
SITE ADDRESS Site Bounded By Burrell Lane/High Street/ Duke Street Glasgow GSV (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=high+street+glasgow&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=High+St,+Glasgow+G1,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&sqi=2&ll=55.860068,-4.237633&spn=0,0.043774&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=55.860018,-4.237403&panoid=zQWnskcExF_TovriDormAg&cbp=12,322.2,,0,-4.92)
PROPOSAL Erection of residential development (44 dwellings) with ground floor office, common meeting room and associated landscaping
APPLICANT Cruden Estates Ltd
Cruden Campus
Cambuslang Investment Park
5 Clydesmill Road
Glasgow
G32 8RE
AGENT Anderson Bell Christie
382 Great Western Road
GLASGOW
G4 9HT
WARD NO(S) 10, Anderston/City COMMUNITY COUNCIL
02_038, Ladywell (Inactive)
CONSERVATION AREA
LISTED ADVERT TYPE Affecting a Conservation Area/Listed Building
PUBLISHED 19 March 2010
CITY PLAN Residential
SITE AND DESCRIPTION
The application site comprises an area of vacant, sloping land bounded on four sides by High Street/
Burrell Lane/Duke Street and the boundary wall to the GHA Drygate flats and a single-storey public house. The
site has been heavily developed since the 1860’s with both residential and industrial uses however it was
cleared and landscaped as part of the Townhead to London Road link proposals in the late 80’s with only the
public house retained. The total site extends to approximately 2800m² and there is a height difference of around
9m between High Street and Duke Street (An incline of 1:8). The site is owned by the Council and the tenants of
the property have operated on a succession of temporary leases whilst the site awaited development. There is
an open area of ground to the rear of the public house and accessed from Burrell Lane which, due to it’s
proximity to the city centre, is used for unauthorised car parking. The eastern boundary of the site is a retained
part of the old Drygate prison wall extending down High Street and round into Duke Street and a stepped path
on the side of this boundary connects High Street and Duke Street. There are several semi mature trees across
the site which have grown up since the site was cleared. To the West are the 4-storey, category B listed City
Improvement Trust tenement flats, which have commercial units and saloon backcourts for residential use. To
the east the Drygate flats compromise a mix of slabs and high rise blocks.
The current proposals seek full planning permission for the erection of residential development in the buildings
(44 dwellings) with ground floor office (Class 4), common meeting space and associated landscaping. This will
necessitate the demolition of the Public House and the removal of many of the semi-mature trees on the site.
The proposed development comprises two discrete elements, a 6-storey block of residential accommodation
facing onto Duke Street and a block of 4, 5 and 6 storey sections with ground floor commercial uses facing onto
High Street. The applicant is proposing terraces to the rear of the High Street flats and a large area of sloped
landscaping between them along with a new boundary wall along the Burrell Lane elevation which will also allow
for access to the landscaped courtyard for disabled people. Whilst the Duke Street elevation features an
elevated ground floor, the High street contains a double height pend within the 5 storey section to facilitate
pedestrian access to the terrace behind and residential accommodation above.
The development is intended to meet social housing needs and has been designed primarily for tenants who
are either elderly or have mobility issues. At this stage it is too early for the GHA to know exactly what level of
wheelchair provision will be required, however all 44 flats are readily adaptable for tenants with mobility issues
and through the use of level access and lifts, 38 of the 44 flats are wheelchair accessible.
The Duke Street block has been designed with a strong vertical emphasis to reflect the neighbouring tenement
and is comprised of 24 two bedroom flats separated into two closes of twelve.
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Sweet Zombie Jesus February 4th, 2011, 09:16 PM The "elevated ground floor" on Duke Street doesn't fill me with confidence... a lot of the new builds proposed/completed/under construction along Duke Street have pretty unactive street frontages. Good to see High Street getting some attention, if only a little bit.
Glasgow 2097 March 2nd, 2011, 02:44 PM New hope for Bridgeton (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/editor-s-picks/new-hope-for-bridgeton-1.1088080)
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A historic village, which is now at the heart of Glasgow’s East End, is set for special protection.
City council bosses believe Bridgeton Cross deserves to be recognised as a conservation area.
A consultation exercise has now been launched to find out if people living in the area agree.
Glasgow presently has 22 conservation areas varying in character from the city centre and Victorian residential suburbs to a rural village and former country estate.
In conservation areas both the buildings and the spaces between them are of architectural or historic interest.
As a result planners strive to maintain and enhance their character and ensure new developments do not harm the appearance of the area.
The Bridgeton Cross consultation document states: “Conservation area designation should be regarded as the first positive step towards an area’s protection and enhancement.”
Bridgeton Cross has many listed buildings in particular around the historic cross.
But the report says: “Clutter of street signage, street furniture, pedestrian guard rails, changes in levels, a wide range of different materials and styles and poor quality finishes have eroded the special character of the area.
“Recent investment by Clyde Gateway has targeted these issues including the refurbishment of the Umbrella and works which aspire to transform Bridgeton Cross into a pedestrian friendly, attractive and functional urban space.
“The importance of the Cross as a major crossroads is marked by a concentration of commercial and former public buildings of high architectural quality.
“These buildings date from the early 1900s when development at Bridgeton was at its peak.
“Quality streetscape works at the Cross have introduced new lighting, street furniture, public art and traffic management measures.”
The report says property owners have a major role to play in the preservation and improvement of a proposed conservation area.
It adds: “To encourage participation, the city council will prepare and distribute information leaflets explaining the implications of living in a conservation area. Details of the availability of grants will also be included.
“Specific guidance for residents wishing to carry out repairs and alterations to their property will be prepared.”
Neil Baxter, secretary of the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland, backs the move to make Bridgeton Cross a conservation area.
He said: “Bridgeton historically was a village community and the street patterns and some of the buildings – if you know where to look – still echo that.
“It then became one of the great densely populated residential centres of Victorian Glasgow during the city’s industrial age.
“Bridgeton Cross, with the Umbrella, is still a very recognisable hub and there is still a lot of history there.
“By giving it conservation area status you are helping to maintain and support the history and are recognising the importance of that history.”
Regeneration company Clyde Gateway is behind massive plans to breathe new life into the East End.
Communications manager Jim Clark welcomed the bid for conservation area statues.
He said: “Clyde Gateway welcomes every effort to positively raise the profile of local communities in the East End and their rich heritage.
“We have already invested in the like of Tullis Memorial Gardens, Calton Burial Grounds and the Olympia building to demonstrate that regeneration is not simply about new projects but acknowledges and appreciates the existing cultural and architectural heritage that exists.
“We fully support the council’s efforts to secure conservation area status for Bridgeton and we hope local residents will do likewise by commenting on the draft document that has been published.”
The public has until March 25 to comment on the conservation area plans.
The city council will consider all the responses and decide whether the new status should be granted and what the appropriate boundary should be.
A spokesman said: “Designation as a new conservation area will afford Bridgeton a level of added protection with respect to the historic built environment.
“This action will complement the ongoing achievements of regeneration agencies such as Clyde Gateway and will focus attention on the rich architectural heritage of the Cross.”
Liz Cameron, executive member for development and regeneration, said: “A move towards making this part of the city a conservation area would help to protect these important pieces of the city’s built heritage.
“I would urge everyone with a view on the proposal to get involved."
leadensky March 2nd, 2011, 02:55 PM ITEM 1 (c) (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/councillorsandcommittees/submissiondocuments.asp?submissionid=48251) (20 pages)
SITE AND DESCRIPTION
The application site comprises an area of vacant, sloping land bounded on four sides by High Street/
Burrell Lane/Duke Street and the boundary wall to the GHA Drygate flats and a single-storey public house. The
site has been heavily developed since the 1860’s with both residential and industrial uses however it was
cleared and landscaped as part of the Townhead to London Road link proposals in the late 80’s with only the
public house retained. The total site extends to approximately 2800m² and there is a height difference of around
9m between High Street and Duke Street (An incline of 1:8). The site is owned by the Council and the tenants of
the property have operated on a succession of temporary leases whilst the site awaited development. There is
an open area of ground to the rear of the public house and accessed from Burrell Lane which, due to it’s
proximity to the city centre, is used for unauthorised car parking. The eastern boundary of the site is a retained
part of the old Drygate prison wall extending down High Street and round into Duke Street and a stepped path
on the side of this boundary connects High Street and Duke Street. There are several semi mature trees across
the site which have grown up since the site was cleared. To the West are the 4-storey, category B listed City
Improvement Trust tenement flats, which have commercial units and saloon backcourts for residential use. To
the east the Drygate flats compromise a mix of slabs and high rise blocks.
The current proposals seek full planning permission for the erection of residential development in the buildings
(44 dwellings) with ground floor office (Class 4), common meeting space and associated landscaping. This will
necessitate the demolition of the Public House and the removal of many of the semi-mature trees on the site.
The proposed development comprises two discrete elements, a 6-storey block of residential accommodation
facing onto Duke Street and a block of 4, 5 and 6 storey sections with ground floor commercial uses facing onto
High Street. The applicant is proposing terraces to the rear of the High Street flats and a large area of sloped
landscaping between them along with a new boundary wall along the Burrell Lane elevation which will also allow
for access to the landscaped courtyard for disabled people. Whilst the Duke Street elevation features an
elevated ground floor, the High street contains a double height pend within the 5 storey section to facilitate
pedestrian access to the terrace behind and residential accommodation above.
The development is intended to meet social housing needs and has been designed primarily for tenants who
are either elderly or have mobility issues. At this stage it is too early for the GHA to know exactly what level of
wheelchair provision will be required, however all 44 flats are readily adaptable for tenants with mobility issues
and through the use of level access and lifts, 38 of the 44 flats are wheelchair accessible.
The Duke Street block has been designed with a strong vertical emphasis to reflect the neighbouring tenement
and is comprised of 24 two bedroom flats separated into two closes of twelve.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/117/cruden.jpg
Between this and Collegelands, the land set aside for the eastern flank of the Inner City Ring Road looks to be finally getting developed. I wonder when the council finally abandoned the prospect of that project..
M_Riaz March 4th, 2011, 01:44 AM GCC (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/YourCouncil/Consultations/)
Bridgeton Cross Conservation Area Appraisal
Have Your Say
As recommended in the East End Local Development Strategy (2008) and the Glasgow City Plan (2009), a conservation area appraisal has been prepared in order to consider Bridgeton Cross as a new Conservation Area
Glasgow Consult
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djmaxliving March 6th, 2011, 06:38 PM Image of what strathlyde police HQ will look like. Reminds me of the BBC Scotland HQ
PROPOSALS FOR NEW HEADQUARTERS BUILDING FOR STRATHCLYDE POLICE
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M_Riaz March 9th, 2011, 07:14 PM WORK BEGINS ON CLYDE GATEWAY REGENERATION
Construction has now commenced on the first phase of the Clyde Gateway regeneration – Eastgate, transforming a derelict site at Glasgow’s Bridgeton Cross.
The first project being delivered is the London Road office development which will act as a catalyst for the regeneration of the area, providing much needed employment and training opportunities to the local community. The building, when complete will house 500 staff from Glasgow Community and Safety Services (GCSS).
Tuner & Townsend is providing a turnkey service for Clyde Gateway as well as a full design team to undertake the design of the building. We are providing project and cost management, CDM co-ordinator and carbon advisory and sustainability services.
Clyde Gateway encompasses a large part of the east end of Glasgow, including Bridgeton, Dalmarnock and Parkhead, as well as Rutherglen and Shawfield in South Lanarkshire. The area is vitally important and viewed as a key gateway to Glasgow.
Turner & Townsend was also responsible for appointing WAVE, a Glasgow based arts organisation to develop a 100m mural for the hoarding around the perimeter of the site - showcasing the talents of local school pupils from Eastbank Academy. Over 100 pupils worked with WAVE staff and professional artists Peter McCaughey and Jenny Sykes as well as writer Chris Dolan and graphic designers 6274 to complete the works.
Ronnie Dool, Director, said: “We’re delighted to be involved with such a significant project for the area, one which we know will bring training opportunities and jobs for local people. The regeneration of Clyde Gateway brings together a shared vision, and more importantly, it’s being supported by the local people.”
www.turnerandtownsend.com
bestbud March 18th, 2011, 03:29 PM Dalmarnock Road Bridge.
Evening Times (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/we-crane-do-it-1.1091247)
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One of Europe’s heaviest cranes has arrived in Glasgow to ensure a multi-million pound road scheme stays on track.
The German-made Liebherr LTN 1800 weighs 10,000 tonnes – more than three super-jumbo jets – and was brought in sections from the north of England by a convoy of six articulated lorries.
Another 800-tonne crane helped put the Liebherr together before the eight-axle giant was used to place a large precast concrete beam beneath the Dalmarnock Railway Bridge.
The beam, 20m long and 1.3metres thick, was embedded in foundations beneath a huge air vent, which will be filled with concrete as part of strengthening works.
For full story see today’s Evening Times...
Glasgow 2097 March 22nd, 2011, 02:28 PM £910k lottery boost for Scots boxing hub (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/910k-lottery-boost-for-scots-boxing-hub-1.1091854)
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Lottery cash will help transform a disused Glasgow theatre into a focal point for Scotland’s elite amateur boxers and wrestlers.
Millions of pounds will be spent on the Olympia at Bridgeton Cross, thanks in part to £910,000 given by the Heritage Lottery Fund towards its £10million total cost.
Lotto chiefs had already contributed £51,000 for a feasibility study into re-opening the Olympia.
And in a double boost, senior officials at the Clyde Gateway Urban Regeneration Company awarded a £5.4m contract to redevelop the building to Glasgow construction company CCG.
RapidTaco March 22nd, 2011, 04:24 PM Really glad this is going ahead. Apart from getting the building back into good use, it is also a prominent building, which will be viewed by thousands of visitors on their way from the city centre hotels to the Commonwealth Games sites further east.
Sweet Zombie Jesus April 5th, 2011, 10:27 PM Dont think this has been posted yet?
GMA lodge Planning Application for riverside office development (http://www.gordonmurrayarchitects.com/?p=2633)
Gordon Murray Architects have submitted a Planning Application in Principle for a new commercial development occupying a key site on the banks of the River Clyde, on behalf of Zed Developments (Newhall) Ltd who are working in conjunction with Duddingston House Properties. The triangular site is bounded by the river on its southern edge, Glasgow Green to the west, and the historic Rutherglen Bridge to the east. The location is highly prominent, allowing the new development to act as a gateway building into the northern half of the city and the Commonwealth Games village beyond.
The proposed development delivers nearly 10,000sqm of office accommodation over three storeys, arranged around a series of courtyards facing towards the river. This strategy allows views of the river corridor to be maximised, while bringing the natural landscape deep into the heart of the new building. Narrow floor plates allow extensive use of natural daylight and ventilation, while strategic positioning of service cores on the north face of the building provides an acoustic buffer to the East end Regeneration Route which wraps around the northern part of the site.
The project forms part of a wider strategy for the transformation of Glasgow’s east end which also includes the Commonwealth Games Campus and proposed Strathclyde Police HQ building.
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Sweet Zombie Jesus April 27th, 2011, 01:29 AM Planning sought for London Road residential development (http://www.urbanrealm.com/news/2878/Planning_sought_for_London_Road_residential_development.html)
The New Housing Association have submitted plans for the first phase of a wider redevelopment of an inner city block in the east end of Glasgow to provide 35 flats, including 10 sheltered and four townhouses.
Designed by Anderson Bell Christie the £4m development will regenerate the brownfield site with 3 and 4 storey terraces clad in buff facing brick.
Sporting a simple vertically proportioned façade the new build is designed to relate to the existing Monteith Hotel, which is to be converted into residential accommodation as part of a later phase of works.
The block will incorporate internal courtyards and establish a hard urban edge to London Road, with shops and offices inserted to re-establish a civic presence to the once bustling thoroughfare.
A public walkway along the sites western flank would be established to facilitate linkages between London Road and Glasgow Green.
Looks pretty bog standard, but anything to give a more "urban edge" to Glasgow Green gets a thumbs up from me.
M_Riaz April 30th, 2011, 03:59 PM The Construction Index (http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/tenders/index/view/ref/2011%7CS%2084-137753/previous/)
II.1) DESCRIPTION
II.1.1) Title attributed to the contract by the contracting authority
New Force Headquarters.
II.1.2) Type of contract and location of works, place of delivery or of performance
Works Design and execution Main site or location of works South Dalmarnock, Glasgow. NUTS code UKM34 Glasgow City
II.1.3) The notice involves
A public contract
II.1.4) Information on framework agreement
II.1.5) Short description of the contract or purchase(s)
The Contracting Authority is seeking to appoint a contractor to undertake the design and construction of the new Force Headquarter building in South Dalmarnock. The building will have a gross internal floor area of 12,500m2 over five floors, and will provide office accommodation for approximately 800 people. It is envisaged that the procurement route will be single stage Develop & Construct, with the design being developed to RIBA Stage E/F prior to tender. The site is bounded by the River Clyde, French Street, Reid Street and the East End Regeneration Route (currently under construction). Limited preparation works will have been undertaken by others in advance of the main construction works. The building will be of modern construction and will incorporate three internal glazed atria. External elevations will be formed in a variety of materials, including high performance curtain walling with double glazed units formed in high performance toughened glass. External works will comprise hard and soft landscaping, utility infrastucture and the construction of 200 car parking spaces. It is anticipated the foundations of the building will be piled, incorporating a suspended concrete floor slab. The site is being made available to the Contracting Authority by Clyde Gateway Developments Limited, the trading company of Clyde Gateway Urban Regeneration Company for the purposes of a new Police Headquarters and to assist the promotion of the regeneration of that part of the East End of Glasgow. As part of the collaborative approach adopted by the Contracting Authority and Clyde Gateway Developments Limited in progressing the Force Headquarters Relocation Project, the parties have agreed that should the Contracting Authority consider it is not in a position to progress the Project to conclusion then Clyde Gateway Developments Limited will have the option (but will not be under any obligation) to award a contract for the Works pursuant to this Notice. To assist with the funding of a New Force Headquarters Building, the Contracting Authority will require to dispose of the existing Force Headquarters building at 173 Pitt Street, Glasgow. In addition, to undertaking a separate marketing exercise relative to the disposal of the Pitt Street building, the Contracting Authority requires bidders to submit (i) a Tender for the design and construction of the Works (Lot 1) and (ii) a combined tender for the design and construction of the Works and the purchase of 173 Pitt Street, Glasgow (Lot 2). It will be at the discretion of the Contracting Authority to decide whether to award a contract for either of the Lots or not to award any contract at all pursuant to this Notice.
II.1.6) Common procurement vocabulary (CPV)
45111200 Site preparation and clearance work 45111240 Ground-drainage work 45112730 Landscaping work for roads and motorways 45213100 Construction work for commercial buildings 45216110 Construction work for buildings relating to law and order 45223210 Structural steelworks 45223300 Parking lot construction work 79600000 Recruitment services
II.1.7) Contract covered by the Government Procurement Agreement (GPA)
Yes
II.1.8) Division into lots
Yes tenders should be submitted for all lots
II.1.9) Variants will be accepted
No
II.2) QUANTITY OR SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT
II.2.1) Total quantity or scope
Excluding VAT Range between 21 000 000,00 and 24 000 000,00 GBP
II.2.2) Options
No
II.3) DURATION OF THE CONTRACT OR TIME-LIMIT FOR COMPLETION
Duration in months: 22 (from the award of the contract)
M_Riaz May 14th, 2011, 11:07 PM BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/a_history_of_the_barras_in_glasgow.shtml)
A history of The Barras in Glasgow
Whether you're familiar with its name as a flea-market, music venue, or a dodgy dealings dive, The Barras is a Glaswegian institution which at one time was the largest open-air market in Europe. However, it's not merely a market but a place of distinct character embedded in the Glasgow psyche.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/img/arts/tam_traders_today.jpg
M_Riaz May 17th, 2011, 08:34 PM ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/1-7m-boost-for-east-end-1.1101881)
£1.7m boost for East End
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/polopoly_fs/13715743-1.1101882!image/1451505491.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_300/1451505491.JPG
17 May 2011
Lotto chiefs will give a cash boost to the historic heart of Glasgow’s East End.
They plan to help create an artistic hub at Parkhead Cross after setting aside £1.7million to restore 20 dilapidated shop fronts in an attempt to breathe new life into the area.
The Heritage Lottery Fund reckon the upgraded units could provide short-term lets for artists and craftsmen and women as well as start-up businesses.
The cash windfall will come from the Lotto’s Townscape Heritage Initiative, (THI) which has already triggered more than £36m of investment in 35 town centres.
Another £25,000 will be paid to Glasgow City Council to draw up a detailed restoration plan.
Councillor Liz Cameron, the executive member for development and regeneration, said: “Parkhead Cross is not only an outstanding example of Edwardian architecture, but also a historic civic and commercial hub.
“Its restoration would be part of the wider regeneration in this part of the city, attracting both homes and businesses to the area. We look forward to working with the Heritage Lottery Fund towards developing a full application for the Parkhead Cross THI award.”
The THI has already triggered a £1.4m grant for Parkhead Cross. The cash injection was used to relocate the local Post Office into a restored building, create a community hub at a neighbouring church and repair prominent buildings around the Cross.
Meanwhile, the Clyde holiday resort of Rothesay, now a faded shadow of its former self, is also to receive £1.5m of lottery funding.
Parts of the Bute town are now rundown but lotto chiefs are to invest in a series of regeneration projects to make it a more attractive place for visitors.
It will include refurbishment work at Duncan’s Hall, in East Princes Street, and on a number of buildings in Montague Street, as well as the former Guildford Court Hotel in Guildford Square.
Councillor Len Scoullar said: “This is fantastic news, not just for the people of Rothesay and the wider Bute community, but for the whole of Argyll and Bute.”
Colin McLean of the Heritage Lottery Fund said: “While HLF investment in preserving the unique character of these townscapes is not a universal panacea, looking after the heritage is an incredibly effective way of supporting the community’s economic life.
“Against the current economic downturn, the futures of Rothesay and Parkhead Cross are looking positive.”
Due East May 18th, 2011, 01:08 PM I'm really pleased Parkhead cross is going to receive some of this money. It's got some beautiful buildings that hint to a once grand past.
I have to say however, that I am unconvinced by the plan they have to 'breath life into the area.' I've seen this happen to a number satellite towns around Glasgow (Hamilton, Motherwell, Paisley, Clydebank etc) where serious money is spent putting down nice paving, shopfronts while the underlying economic problems are not tackled.
From what I can gather from these plans, its very much a 'build it and they will come strategy.' This is fairly amateur IMHO. You only need to look at the demographics of the area, the fact that the cross is a busy traffic junction and also the fact that the forge and forge market are nearby to realise this is doomed. Maybe if they rerouted traffic away from the cross and pedestrianised it there may be some chance of regeneration, but thats far from likely.
I'm much more optimistic about the regeneration of Bridgeton which seems to be attracting a variety of different organisations (like the boxing club in the old cinema) alongside aesthetic improvements.
Maybe i'll be proved wrong.
RapidTaco May 18th, 2011, 03:23 PM I think you might be right there Due East. The Bridgeton area has already managed to pick itself up a bit and huge swathes of gap sites are now built upon (Silvergrove Street, Dalmarnock Drive, Tullis Gardens) this, along with half-decent plans along London Road and at the Cross itself point to a much better area in general and the new build housing has certainly attracted more people to live in the area. Bridgeton also has the attraction of being much closer to the city and very close to the Green.
Parkhead deserves to be in a much better state than it currently is. However, what hope has it got when the Forge Retail Park is literally up the road? The local community in Parkhead are not made of money and will have no option but to head up to Asda at the Forge and buy everything under one roof. Also, who are the Artists etc they are expecting to attract? Surely those types would be more interested in setting up in the likes of the West End / Southside / Trongate areas?
PS - has anyone else heard that Tesco is supposed to be moving into the old Big W (Woolworths) store at Forge Retail Park?! :(
M_Riaz May 26th, 2011, 07:50 PM DESIGN AWARD FOR SOUTH DALMARNOCK
Clyde Gateway (http://www.clydegateway.com/pages/clyde_gateway_news.php)
Clyde Gateway’s continuous efforts to transform its neighbourhoods and communities have been acknowledged at the 2011 Scottish Design Awards.
The South Dalmarnock Masterplan, which is Clyde Gateway’s vision to take the substantial pieces of vacant and derelict land and create a new neighbourhood incorporating a range of uses including residential, business, industrial, commercial, transport and civic, has been declared the winner of the 2011 Placemaking/Masterplan category.
The Masterplan Design Team was made up of staff from the Glasgow office of the architectural firm Sheppard Robson (http://www.sheppardrobson.com/news/?type=press-releases&year=2011), working alongside Martin McKay and Alison Brown from Clyde Gateway. As well as setting out suggestions for how South Dalmarnock might change over the coming years, it also offers suggestions for solving long-standing technical and infrastructure issues including water, drainage and sewerage problems.
Clyde Gateway consulted extensively on the Masterplan over a six-month period from August 2009 – January 2010 including three distinct stages of community engagement with meetings and seminars at venues in Dalmarnock and Bridgeton. The community views expressed during the consultation period allowed the Masterplan Design Team to incorporate substantial changes and improvements which led to the final document being one that best serves the needs and interests of local residents and businesses.
Collecting the award at a ceremony held in Glasgow on 19 May, Alison Brown, Clyde Gateway Project Manager for South Dalmarnock said "It is always hugely pleasing to be acknowledged in this way. This award might have been handed over to the Masterplan Design Team but we could never have won it without the superb input we got from everyone during the consultation process, so it really is one to be shared with people who live and work in the community."
The next aspect of implementing the details of the Masterplan will see Clyde Gateway, over the coming months, having further community consultations on the possible development of the site of the former Dalmarnock Power Station.
http://www.sheppardrobson.com/uploads/news/images/SouthDalmarnock.jpg
M_Riaz May 26th, 2011, 07:56 PM 26 May 2011
OLYMPIA BOXING CLEVER AS £10 MILLION REVAMP BEGINS
Work has begun on a £10m project to bring the historic Olympia Theatre in Bridgeton back into use exactly 100 years after its initial opening.
Clyde Gateway is spending £10m purchasing and converting the building into a public library and café, sports facilities for elite amateur boxers and high-quality commercial office spaces. The 18-month scheme was developed after extensive consultations during 2009 and 2010 during which local residents and business owners asked Clyde Gateway to purchase the disused Theatre and find a new and viable use for the building.
The new Olympia building will take the following shape:
Ground floor – Public library and cafe
Public Library with integrated cafe facility and multi functional space to accommodate a range of leisure and educational activities. Specific archives will be created on local history, music hall and cinematic history and specific sport history focussed on Glasgow.
First floor – Elite Boxers training centre
High performance centre for elite athletes in Boxing – one of the core sports in the Commonwealth Games and one with a rich tradition in the East End of Glasgow. Amateur Boxing Scotland have an option to relocate their HQ within the Olympia.
Second and Third floors – Office space
Commercial lettable office space, totalling 10,000 sq ft, adjacent to Bridgeton Railway Station
Clyde Gateway (http://www.clydegateway.com/pages/clyde_gateway_news.php)
M_Riaz June 3rd, 2011, 04:25 PM Item 3 (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/councillorsandcommittees/submissiondocuments.asp?submissionid=50293) (8 pages)
9th June 2011
Implementing the City Plan
Parkhead Townscape Heritage Initiative
Funding a Second Investment Programme 2012 to 2017
Purpose of Report:
To request the Executive Committee to approve the allocation of £1.4 million to
support an application to Heritage Lottery Fund for a second Townscape
Heritage Initiative project at Parkhead from 2012 to 2017.
Recommendation:
That the Executive Committee authorises expenditure of £1.4 million to support
a funding application to Heritage Lottery Fund for a second Townscape Heritage
Initiative at Parkhead, from 2012 to 2017. (Note: The HLF decision making
timetable is outlined in more detail below.)
1. BACKGROUND
1.1 The Council is currently implementing a Townscape Heritage Initiative at
Parkhead to a value of £4.1 million. This programme is supported by the
Council with £2.2 million with other support from SE Glasgow at £335,000
and Heritage Lottery Fund at £1.4 million. The HLF contribution is 34%.
The original programme was 2005 to 2010 but this has been extended
recently for an additional year to facilitate the full uptake of grant funds.
The current THI project will close in December 2011.
1.2 The current programme has provided financial support for:
the repair and conservation to key listed buildings at Parkhead Cross;
the upgrading of 20 shop fronts;
the re-use of community space at Parkhead Congregational Church;
investment in repairs and upgrade to public realm.
1.3 The current THI programme is attracting considerable interest from
property owners in the area. In discussions with the Heritage Lottery Fund
(HLF) encouragement has been given to the Council to consider the
submission of an application for a second programme.
In order to commence a programme in 2012/2013, Heritage Lottery Fund’s
approval procedure requires the Council to indicate its financial support.
New applications to HLF need to be submitted annually and I can confirm
that an application for a THI programme commencing in 2012/13 has been
received by HLF on November 30th 2010, the annual deadline for
applications. Feedback from HLF during the bid assessment period has
enabled the Council to adjust the programme details including the budget.
The Heritage Lottery Fund confirmed on April 20th 2011 that it had
approved the Council’s Stage 1 bid for a second programme at Parkhead.
This now allows the Council to make a more informed decision.
1.4 The second THI programme is estimated to cost £3,283,340 over five
years. The Council’s share of this cost is identified at £1,399,382.69 over
a five year period. The anticipated budget profile is shown later in para 6.
The share of the cost contributed by the Heritage Lottery Fund is identified
at £1,710,356.62. Grant applicants will be expected to contribute 10% of
the costs from their own resources, which overall is identified as
£173,600.70 (further budget details are given in Section 6 below).
craig lindsay June 3rd, 2011, 05:18 PM Clyde Gateway has started work on a £10m project to bring the historic Olympia Theatre in Bridgeton back into use, exactly 100 years after its initial opening.
The regeneration company is spending £10m purchasing and converting the building into a public library and café, along with sports facilities for elite amateur boxers and high-quality commercial office spaces.
The 18-month scheme was developed after consultations in 2009-2010, during which local residents and business owners asked Clyde Gateway to purchase the disused theatre and find a new and viable use for the building.
George Redmond, councillor for the Bridgeton area and board member of Clyde Gateway, said: “The Olympia is a hugely important symbol of Bridgeton’s rich heritage. Local residents have been anxious for a long time to save the building and to allow future generations of Eastenders to enjoy it.
“This new lease of life for the Olympia will improve the health, wellbeing and education of local residents. The community is genuinely excited about the project and are thrilled at the idea of the facilities that will be at the very heart of Bridgeton Cross. It is also a key part of the overall Clyde Gateway regeneration for the area as well as a true legacy from Glasgow hosting the 2014 Commonwealth Games.”
On completion in November 2012, the Olympia will comprise: a public library and cafe; high performance centre and HQ for the National Governing Body for Amateur Boxing; and commercial office space.
Built as a theatre in 1911, the Category B Listed building also served as a cinema for 50 years. Derelict for almost two decades, it was severely damaged by fire in 2004. Its purchase by Clyde Gateway was the first time the building had been in public ownership.
The £10m purchase and restoration cost has attracted funding from a wide range of sources, including: Clyde Gateway, The Heritage Lottery Fund, Historic Scotland, Glasgow City Council’s Better Glasgow Fund, Scottish Government’s Town Centre Regeneration Fund, sportscotland, the Glasgow Trades House and the Hugh Fraser Foundation.
Local resident Jimmy McLellan, who sits on a local community steering group that advises Clyde Gateway, said “The re-opening of the Olympia will be one of the best things to happen in the Bridgeton area for decades.
“It is incredible to think that after so many years of neglect, this fabulous old building, which holds so many incredible memories for so many people in the community, will soon be re-opening its doors and bringing a whole new vibrancy to the area.”
Background:
The new Olympia building will take the following shape:
Ground floor – Public library and cafe
Public Library with integrated cafe facility and multi functional space to accommodate a range of leisure and educational activities. Specific archives will be created on local history, music hall and cinematic history and specific sport history focused on Glasgow.
First floor – Elite Boxers training centre
High performance centre for elite athletes in Boxing – one of the core sports in the Commonwealth Games and one with a rich tradition in the East End of Glasgow. Amateur Boxing Scotland have an option to relocate their HQ within the Olympia.
Second and Third floors – Office space
Commercial lettable office space, totalling 10,000 sq ft, adjacent to Bridgeton Railway Station.
The contract to re-develop the Olympia was awarded to the Glasgow-based firm of CCG (Scotland) Ltd following a competitive tender process. As part of the community benefits clauses insisted upon by Clyde Gateway in all of its main contracts, CCG will provide a minimum of eight local residents with jobs or training places during the construction process.
The Olympia opened in September 1911 was envisaged as Glasgow’s equivalent of the Palladium Theatre in London. It has served as a variety theatre, cinema, bingo hall and furniture shop before closing its doors in 1993.
The building suffered major fire damage in 2004 but in the intervening period the site had received planning permission to be converted into flatted accommodation.
http://www.compropscotland.com/index.php/article/curtain_opens_on_10m_revamp_of_bridgeton_theatre
craig lindsay June 3rd, 2011, 05:24 PM Ambitious plans for Strathclyde Police to move their force headquarters from their dilapidated Pitt Street HQ in Glasgow city centre to a shiny new edifice in Dalmarnock have advanced with submission of a planning application.
Designed by Cooper Cromar the scheme comprises a five storey modernist block set back at an off angle to the river Clyde and the planned East End Regeneration Route.
The premises are surrounded by expansive surface car parking for up to 190 vehicles and a portion of public space comprising a granite sett paved plaza opening out onto a refurbished Clyde Walkway.
Meeting the ground via a two storey base concourse punctuated by feature limestone and granite columns the structure rises through three storeys of full height glazing framed by black metal cladding panels.
Though a high security environment boundary defences will be mitigated through employment of a highly transparent security fence to the south, allowing unobstructed views across the river.
Vehicle barriers will also be camouflaged within dense hedgerow.
http://www.urbanrealm.com/news/2953/Strathclyde_Police_submit_Dalmarnock_HQ_plans.html
bestbud July 1st, 2011, 11:48 PM I've just found some great pictures showing the extent of work being done on London Road for the EERR. Its amazing how close the old tunnels are to the road surface and shows exactly why the price tag for the project is so high.
Hidden Glasgow (http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=69&sid=8a31429daab50250c689b8d01c2cc1de&start=345)
Credit for these pictures goes to ccoolc353 (http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9783)on Hidden Glasgow.
Looking along London Road towards Bridgeton
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_QC-JXSZDPOA/TdPDGUBHiYI/AAAAAAAAAG0/dzwB54ZrCjQ/s512/London%20Rd%20Tunnel%20apr%202011%20004.jpg
Velodrome site hoarding in the background
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_QC-JXSZDPOA/TdPDPvf4eEI/AAAAAAAAAHo/tGzqLc7uK08/s576/London%20Rd%20Tunnel%20May%202011%20017.jpg
Plenty more picture on HG (http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=69&sid=8a31429daab50250c689b8d01c2cc1de&start=345)
Boards July 2nd, 2011, 01:13 AM Do they have a flythru of this? Like the M74, M8 and M80 have?
leadensky July 2nd, 2011, 03:49 AM So they are going to great lengths to preserve the tunnel? Reassuring.
Chris99 July 2nd, 2011, 10:17 AM Do they have a flythru of this? Like the M74, M8 and M80 have?
Have been searching for such like but drew a blank. The info on GCC website is very limited and hasn't been updated for a year.
gmacruyff July 2nd, 2011, 01:04 PM I wrote about shawfield on the Clyde gateway page,but is it possible to transfer the "reply" over to this page also.?
crusty_bint July 2nd, 2011, 01:56 PM no fly-through available for public consumption i'm afraid. i have the proposal docs though, they show the scale of the fly-over section of EER Phase 2, the re-alignment of Duke St where it passes under the current (and new, as per EER Phase 2) railway viaduct as well as some info on the proposed Parkhead Station.
maybe i'll be arsed scanning some... meh...
crusty_bint July 2nd, 2011, 02:00 PM I wrote about shawfield on the Clyde gateway page,but is it possible to transfer the "reply" over to this page also.?
...copy and paste?
Boards July 5th, 2011, 02:36 PM no fly-through available for public consumption i'm afraid. i have the proposal docs though, they show the scale of the fly-over section of EER Phase 2, the re-alignment of Duke St where it passes under the current (and new, as per EER Phase 2) railway viaduct as well as some info on the proposed Parkhead Station.
maybe i'll be arsed scanning some... meh...
How soon after a proposal goes in can the public view it? I want to see what the latest Buchanan Galleries plan is like.
gme July 6th, 2011, 01:49 AM Thanks for the info, crusty.
Is there a basic map of the EERR available somewhere?
crusty_bint July 8th, 2011, 09:15 PM ok, these docs i mentioned have been packed away since i moved, i will find them and post what info is pertinent... soon.
boards, i dont have the answer to that question i'm afraid. theyre a helpful bunch down there though, you could give them a call
gme, the following pdf have some details and a route map, though nothing too in-depth: click (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/F48569E1-F155-4310-8533-C39104122707/0/EastEndNewsletter1.pdf)
asdfg July 9th, 2011, 07:08 AM ok, these docs i mentioned have been packed away since i moved, i will find them and post what info is pertinent... soon.
boards, i dont have the answer to that question i'm afraid. theyre a helpful bunch down there though, you could give them a call
gme, the following pdf have some details and a route map, though nothing too in-depth: click (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/F48569E1-F155-4310-8533-C39104122707/0/EastEndNewsletter1.pdf)
Interesting/mildly amusing quote at the start of that newsletter:
"the biggest sporting event that Scotland will ever stage".
It seems the ambitious Councillor Archie Graham thinks Glasgow and Scotland is about to peak.
gme July 10th, 2011, 09:38 AM ok, these docs i mentioned have been packed away since i moved, i will find them and post what info is pertinent... soon.
boards, i dont have the answer to that question i'm afraid. theyre a helpful bunch down there though, you could give them a call
gme, the following pdf have some details and a route map, though nothing too in-depth: click (http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/F48569E1-F155-4310-8533-C39104122707/0/EastEndNewsletter1.pdf)
Thanks
Pious Fraud July 15th, 2011, 04:19 AM Investment boost for Glasgow's east end
BBC News 14th July 2011
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54070000/jpg/_54070999__44301730_clydegateway203-1.jpg
Two UK property development companies have signed deals to invest £14m in Clyde Gateway East business park in the east end of Glasgow.
SCOT Sheridan and MEPC will build industrial units on the site and aim to support 700 jobs.
The brownfield site extends to 36 acres four miles south-east of the city centre, near the newly extended M74.
The site, which has lain undeveloped for almost 40 years, has planning consent for business, storage uses.
A planning application has been lodged, with an anticipated site start of September 2011 and completion by April 2012.
Full story here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-14154808
marzepans July 15th, 2011, 09:38 AM Investment boost for Glasgow's east end
BBC News 14th July 2011
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54070000/jpg/_54070999__44301730_clydegateway203-1.jpg
Two UK property development companies have signed deals to invest £14m in Clyde Gateway East business park in the east end of Glasgow.
SCOT Sheridan and MEPC will build industrial units on the site and aim to support 700 jobs.
The brownfield site extends to 36 acres four miles south-east of the city centre, near the newly extended M74.
The site, which has lain undeveloped for almost 40 years, has planning consent for business, storage uses.
A planning application has been lodged, with an anticipated site start of September 2011 and completion by April 2012.
Full story here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-14154808
Is this the new industrial estate being built just off London Road at Tollcross?
crusty_bint July 15th, 2011, 02:16 PM as promised
EERR route options - option 2 was chosen
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6007/5939429089_59eeaeb8e8_b.jpg
EERR route
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6133/5939429081_79686f9463_b.jpg
EERR route in detail
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6142/5939429087_41abbee92b_b.jpg
EERR detail of Duke St viaduct - fuuuuuck, huh?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/5939429079_090f6f92c5_b.jpg
milton July 15th, 2011, 04:18 PM One of the options was to cut through Alexandra Park??
Mr. B July 15th, 2011, 04:26 PM Those are some very useful drawings, can't believe they wanted to go through Alexandra Park! The Duke Street Viaduct, now that's going to be pretty imposing from Duke Street, as the railway it has to pass over is built on an embankment. Very Interesting!
crusty_bint July 15th, 2011, 04:42 PM yes, it will be on a visual par with the Eglinton viaduct! the railway actually sits relatively low in the topography up until it has to cross Duke St. the topography is strange here and has been heavily manipulated by past industries and development. i'm still looking for the diagram showing the EERR viaduct crossing a re-aligned Duke St along with a new viaduct for the railway. seems very cackhanded really, i'm not sure why, other than the obvious (£££), it wasn't suggested to reduce the height of Biggar St in order that the EERR could run at ground level (like it does until this point) and free up the land at the forge retail park.
gmacruyff July 15th, 2011, 06:03 PM When is the extension part of no.2 (HAGHILL TO THE M8),planned.?
bestbud July 15th, 2011, 07:09 PM When is the extension part of no.2 (HAGHILL TO THE M8),planned.?
That is part of Phase 2 which is underway at the moment and due to be complete by mid 2012.
crusty_bint July 15th, 2011, 07:34 PM apologies, think i confused the issue earlier by referring to it as the EER phase 2...
don't suppose you're able to lay your hands on the diagram of the duke st/railway/eerr intersection, are you, bud, bestbud?
Chris99 July 15th, 2011, 07:59 PM When is the extension part of no.2 (HAGHILL TO THE M8),planned.?
I think this is Phase 3. GCC website states phase 3 will be built after the Commonwealth Games as funding becomes available.
bestbud July 15th, 2011, 08:27 PM apologies, think i confused the issue earlier by referring to it as the EER phase 2...
don't suppose you're able to lay your hands on the diagram of the duke st/railway/eerr intersection, are you, bud, bestbud?
I've just double checked because I'm confused also!! Chris is right, the final section to the M8 is now phase 3, post 2014 games. I think it was delayed for funding issues.
No sorry Crusty not got any detailed plans, there's very little in the public domain about the EERR, the council haven't done a great PR job on this one.
Boards July 15th, 2011, 08:58 PM :eek: @ big fuck off viaduct.
crusty_bint July 15th, 2011, 09:33 PM note the realignment of duke st as it passes under the railway. this proposes a new viaduct for duke st to pass under, constructed east of the existing one(s). seems the large disused trussed viaduct would remain (disused). can't fathom the rationale behind that.
http://www.railbrit.org.uk/images/21000/21997.jpg
gmacruyff July 15th, 2011, 10:18 PM Thanks for the update.The problem is that if they do delay the extension from Haghill to the m8 then,the new EEGR that passes celtic park,will create 2 bottlenecks:-
1.At the Junction of Celtic Park and Gallowgate(traffic lights will have to be installed-a new crossroads),Causing extra delays on the Gallowgate.
2.At Todd street and Cumbernauld road(the que will be massive because of extra traffic,coming off the m74 extension and driving past celtic park and trying to get on to the m8 via Haghill.
crusty_bint July 16th, 2011, 11:40 AM i don;t see them delaying phase 3 by much, the land grabs seem to have already been assembled with the high carntyne allotments already closed. would be counter-productive, in the manner you suggest, not to push ahead with its completion.
gmacruyff July 16th, 2011, 01:05 PM Crusty.I got the impression though,that there delaying this bit till 2014(after commonnwealth games)due to lack of money,but this delay will be a bit of a nightmare for 3 years,so if you bring in the "Health and Safety"arguement,then they could maybe accelerate it.Personally,i would try and finish it BEFORE the commonwealth games,because when everything is finished,traffic will TREBLE in this area and the only way to reduce this bottleneck,is extending the EERR UP TO THE M8 as asap.
crusty_bint July 16th, 2011, 01:13 PM actually, on reading further, you are right...
Timescale
Phase 1 is separately funded, on site and due for completion by May 2010 (see Oatlands section). Phase 2 was tendered in May 2009, with an anticipated site start in March/April 2010 (and programmed road opening in April 2012). Phase 3 will be procured after the 2014 Commonwealth Games as funding becomes available
M_Riaz July 18th, 2011, 05:23 PM :)
ET (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/editor-s-picks/firms-queue-up-for-new-city-units-before-they-re-built-1.1112694)
Firms queue up for new city units...before they’re built
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/polopoly_fs/14426060-1.1112695!image/1188872720.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_300/1188872720.JPG
18 Jul 2011
A major jobs boost is on the horizon for Glasgow’s East End with firms queueing up to lease large industrial units which haven’t received planning permission yet.
Potential tenants have already expressed an interest despite the fact three units won’t be built and ready for occupation until at least next April.
Inquiries made so far by a number of companies give a big boost to a decision by Clyde Gateway Urban Regeneration Company to transform 36 acres of derelict land which have been undeveloped for almost 40 years.
Regeneration chiefs are hoping their new business park, which will be called Clyde Gateway East, will generate 700 new jobs as part of a drive to rejuvenate the city’s investment-starved East End.
The new industrial estate is next to the M74 extension and just four miles from the city centre.
Clyde Gateway officials have also secured £14million of investment from two major property developers, Glasgow-based SCOT Sheridan and MEPC, which owns Scotland’s biggest industrial estate at Hillington.
Working jointly, the developers are seeking planning approval to build a series of industrial units.
They hope to start construction on the first stage in September with a combined floor space of 60,000 sq ft with a second batch of units offering a total of 140,000 sq ft also planned.
Although the first three units are unlikely to be ready for another nine months, interest in letting them has already been shown by a number of manufacturers and transport firms which are in talks with marketing specialists hired by both developers.
Steve Pritchard, executive director of development at Clyde Gateway, told the Evening Times: “This is just fantastic news and with our aim of creating 20,000 jobs in 20 years across the East End of Glasgow and and beyond it really bodes well for the future.
“Our vision and ambition for the area can only be achieved if the private sector is willing to back our judgement and bring investment to the various development opportunities we are delivering to the market.”
SCOT Sheridan director David MacLachlan said Clyde Gateway East will be one of the best industrial sites in west central Scotland.
He added: “The fact that we are building on a speculative basis shows our strong belief that the site has the potential to attract leading businesses and hundreds of jobs and will play a significant role in the regeneration of the area.”
Rick de Blabym, chief executive at MEPC, added: “It’s an important strategic acquisition for us, where we hope to replicate and deliver a modern Hillington Park.”
Making areas of derelict land more accessible for development was a major reason why the M74 motorway was extended and the promise of new units is welcomed by Scottish Government Infrastructure Minister Alex Neil, especially since the newly-created Junction 2a leads directly into the business park.
Due East July 19th, 2011, 11:21 AM Work moving quite quickly at the Morrisons on the Gallowgate. I wonder what this will mean for the Barras....
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/5953958542_a730241305_b.jpg
I also heard from somebody that the old Big W building next to B&Q at the Forge is going to be converted to a Tesco. Talk about supermarket saturation. Wouldn't fancy being a small retailer in the Merchant City/East-end.
G1p July 19th, 2011, 12:27 PM The new Morrisons will certainly draw footfall from the Merchant City/High Street area as residents around there are limited in choice, apart from Aldi, to small independents or Tesco/Sainsbury/Co-op micro stores. Residents of Calton/Gallowgate will also have a decent sized supermarket nearby.
I doubt that people from further afield will be attracted to the Barras at weekends as a result of the new Morrisons, however.
Due East July 19th, 2011, 01:28 PM I wasn't meaning that people would be drawn to the Barras :) - actually meant that it may hasten the closure/demolition of the market. Can't see it lasting much longer. Doesn't seem to have anywhere near as many shoppers as it used to.
Regarding, the Morrisons, Do the residents of Calton/Gallowgate really need a new supermarket? Asda at the Forge is nearby and there is going to be a new Tesco at the Forge Retail park.
When have city centre supermarkets ever been a good idea?
gme July 19th, 2011, 02:08 PM Work moving quite quickly at the Morrisons on the Gallowgate. I wonder what this will mean for the Barras....
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Ah, you read my mind. I saw that site the other day and was going to post to ask what it was. Thanks :)
Due East July 19th, 2011, 02:27 PM No worries. I just hope they are using the last design that I saw (seem to remember a reasonable attempt to make it attractive for a supermarket). I think it had a sandstone wall and a clock that shielded much of the 'big box' from roadside view. I could be wrong though.
G1p July 19th, 2011, 02:38 PM I wasn't meaning that people would be drawn to the Barras :) - actually meant that it may hasten the closure/demolition of the market. Can't see it lasting much longer. Doesn't seem to have anywhere near as many shoppers as it used to.
Regarding, the Morrisons, Do the residents of Calton/Gallowgate really need a new supermarket? Asda at the Forge is nearby and there is going to be a new Tesco at the Forge Retail park.
When have city centre supermarkets ever been a good idea?
If, like myself, you live in the city centre and don't have a car, an edge of centre supermarket (like Morrisons) is a godsend. Living close to High Street station, Morrisons at Partick was my most convenient option for a major shop. I suspect many people in Calton will also appreciate a supermarket in walking distance.
Incidentally, the Morrison site, which has been a derelict eyesore for years, is hardly city centre. Hopefully, more convenient shopping might speeden up residential development between here and the old meat market, giving Gallowgate a proper street scene all the way from the Cross to the Forge.
Pious Fraud July 19th, 2011, 02:43 PM No worries. I just hope they are using the last design that I saw (seem to remember a reasonable attempt to make it attractive for a supermarket). I think it had a sandstone wall and a clock that shielded much of the 'big box' from roadside view. I could be wrong though.
Could it be this one from the Future Glasgow site?...
http://www.futureglasgow.co.uk/Com_Gallery/Gallowgate.jpg
http://www.futureglasgow.co.uk/
gmacruyff July 19th, 2011, 03:08 PM Generally,it looks like local business are grabbing this opporchancity,by the teeth.The location has great potential and with the new EERR being bult (from the new M74 extension),means that goods and products can be imported and exported quickly reducing the companies overhead costs.I wouldnt be surprised to see more things being built around the Celtic park area also,and lets face it,it could do with a bit of refurbishment as it still looks a bit tacky.
Due East July 19th, 2011, 04:51 PM If, like myself, you live in the city centre and don't have a car, an edge of centre supermarket (like Morrisons) is a godsend. Living close to High Street station, Morrisons at Partick was my most convenient option for a major shop. I suspect many people in Calton will also appreciate a supermarket in walking distance.
Incidentally, the Morrison site, which has been a derelict eyesore for years, is hardly city centre. Hopefully, more convenient shopping might speeden up residential development between here and the old meat market, giving Gallowgate a proper street scene all the way from the Cross to the Forge.
I don't understand why you would need to go to partick for a major shop? you can get the bus to Asda in around 5 mins from the merchant city, or failing that get a taxi to Tesco Springburn for a few pounds. There are also a decent selection of shops in the merchant city and city centre that you can go to as well (M&S, local fruit and veg shops, Aldi's etc).
I'm just concerned for all of the small businesses in the area. They will be obliterated. It could also hinder future regeneration of the Barras market - why would people want to invest in a market across the street from a supermarket?
I would also personally consider this area city centre too - you can see Glasgow Cross from the site! And, in general I think big box retail is a disastrous thing to build in a city centre, even more so than the suburbs.
On the plus side, the design is more thoughtful than the average supermarket. Don't suppose there is any chance they have buried the car park??
crusty_bint July 19th, 2011, 06:32 PM i just long for a sainsbury's...
http://data.whicdn.com/images/7233588/hh_thumb.jpg
Gommsta July 24th, 2011, 03:39 PM A couple of pics I took today, heading through Bridgeton.
1) The rear of the Olympia. The cupola was stored in a yard adjacent to where I took the shot.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r313/gommsta/IMG_0625.jpg
A dawn developments building going up. Anyone know what it is? (You can see NISA off in the distance).
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r313/gommsta/IMG_0627.jpg
Some more work getting done, just off Bridgeton Cross. Is this related to the train station?
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r313/gommsta/IMG_0626.jpg
I never managed to get any pictures of work being done in Dalmarnock, however there are a lot of road closures. I believe they're bridge strengthening at the moment. Apologies for iphone pics, mrs has the good camera in Canada at the mo.
Mr. B July 24th, 2011, 04:26 PM Good pictures, nice to see so much development in this area of Glasgow, it's all starting to gather pace ahead of the Commonwealth games. :)
The Dawn construction site is the new Eastgate building, which will be the new Headquarters of Glasgow Community Safety Services.
I believe the work near Bridgeton station is the "Red Tree Business Suites", which is a refurbishment of an old eyesore of a building.
craig lindsay July 26th, 2011, 03:42 PM Three key construction projects in Glasgow’s East End were visited today (26 July) by Alex Neil MSP, the Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment.
The minister said he was ‘highly impressed’ with progress being made on the developments which, with a combined value of over £23 million, are predicted to bring 620 permanent jobs to the area.
Each of the projects are is being developed by Clyde Gateway, the regeneration agency responsible for delivering the physical, social and economic transformation of communities across the city’s East End and parts of South Lanarkshire The schemes comprise:
Red Tree Business Suites, Bridgeton
http://www.clydegateway.com/images/bridgeton_eyesore.jpg
£3.6 million is being spent on converting the upper-floor of derelict shops and businesses at 21-51 Dalmarnock Road, to provide 30 affordable business units in a variety of sizes for small and medium sized enterprises. When fully occupied, they will provide 50 jobs.* Construction work, being undertaken by Cruden, began in May 2011 and is scheduled for completion by May 2012.
Olympia Theatre
http://www.clydegateway.com/images/olympia_new.jpg
The £10 million conversion of a 100-year old listed building that previously served as a theatre, cinema and bingo hall, but has lain derelict for almost 20 years is being undertaken by CCG. Construction started in March 2011, with a scheduled finish of November 2012.
The Olympia will then comprise: a new library; a centre of excellence for amateur boxing in Scotland; plus two floors of commercial office space. In total, the building will support 70 jobs.
Eastgate
http://www.clydegateway.com/images/eastgate.jpg
Work on Glasgow’s largest new-build office development (6,000 sq m) on London Road, just 300 yards east of Bridgeton Cross, is being carried out by Dawn Construction.
Eastgate will be ready for occupation in Spring 2012 as the base for the 500 employees of Glasgow Community and Safety Services (GCSS), a partnership between Glasgow’s police and fire services and Glasgow City Council.
The £9.7 million cost of Eastgate is being provided by Aviva Investors, the UK’s largest real estate manager.
Alex Neil said: “It is encouraging to see derelict properties take on a new life as they are redeveloped to meet the modern needs of our local communities. These will provide much-needed jobs in the area and offer a variety of facilities for local people to enjoy for years to come.”
George Redmond, the local councillor for Bridgeton and a Clyde Gateway board member, said: “The Dalmarnock Road shops have been an eyesore and a blight on Bridgeton for years, while the Olympia has towered over the Cross as a symbol of the area’s proud heritage.* Everyone you speak to locally is hugely excited by all of this activity and looking forward to everything opening over the 18 months.
“I’m particularly pleased with the progress on Eastgate, as the 500 staff from GCSS will be the first wave of what will eventually be tens of thousands of jobs attracted to Clyde Gateway over the coming years.
Alan Macdonald, chairman of Dawn Group, said: “Construction is progressing well at Eastgate and, once complete, it will transform this area of Bridgeton, both in physical and economic terms, and act as a catalyst for further regeneration.
“Along with the £200 million Collegelands development, this is our second major project currently on the ground in the east end of Glasgow and we want to ensure that it leaves a lasting positive impact.”
http://www.compropscotland.com/index.php/article/gateway_to_recovery_23m_projects_displayed_today
craig lindsay July 26th, 2011, 05:28 PM Don't know if this has been mentioned before..
Clyde Gateway has unveiled plans to construct a new pedestrian bridge that will span the River Clyde and link the communities of Dalmarnock and Shawfield.
http://www.clydegateway.com/images/new_bridge.jpg
The bridge is an important part of proposals being developed to create a new National Business District in Shawfield as it will provide quick access to and from the new transport hub which is to be developed around Dalmarnock Station over the next three years. The construction of the bridge will half the walking time from the station to the National Business District to under 10 minutes.
The National Business District will be the re-development of the area that is bounded by the south bank of the River Clyde, Shawfield Stadium and Glasgow Road in Rutherglen. The cost of the bridge has been set at £4.75m of which £1.9m will be a contribution from the European Regional Development Fund.
Ian Manson, the Chief Executive of Clyde Gateway said "The re-development of the Shawfield area is every bit as important as our work to deliver physical, social and economic change in the East End of Glasgow. There are big chunks of land in Shawfield that require substantial investment to remove contamination, and since day one of Clyde Gateway being established, delivering on this has been a priority."
"We see Shawfield, with its superb location on the south bank of the River Clyde, not far from the city centre or the historic burgh of Rutherglen, as an area of enormous potential. We want to establish a newly designated National Business District, adjacent to the completed M74 Motorway, as a location more than capable of being the home to thousands of new jobs in years to come."
"The smart-bridge is part of a vision and strategy to deliver infrastructure and development within Shawfield and Dalmarnock. It is very pleasing to receive this additional funding through Europe, but we are also delighted and see it as highly significant that support is being given to something which is part of our medium and longer term efforts to create jobs and bring investment."
The work on the bridge is due to start in late 2012 with a completion date of mid 2013 which ties in with the completion of the £8m redevelopment of Dalmarnock Station and the transport hub.
http://www.clydegateway.com/pages/news_clyde_gateway.php
gmacruyff July 26th, 2011, 08:24 PM What is "Clydegateway",doing about the "Shawfield" stadium itself.I cant believe that everything around the ex home of Clyde,is being redeveloped,except this ancient,eyesore itself.Surely they can do something (and ive been arguing over a few websites)about refurbishing the stadium,with a long term view of bring the football team back to where it belongs.
Ultima July 26th, 2011, 09:15 PM What is "Clydegateway",doing about the "Shawfield" stadium itself.I cant believe that everything around the ex home of Clyde,is being redeveloped,except this ancient,eyesore itself.Surely they can do something (and ive been arguing over a few websites)about refurbishing the stadium,with a long term view of bring the football team back to where it belongs.
The stadium does seem a bit out of place as far as regeneration is concerned. As I understand it, the venue is only used at the weekends - hence the reason for its almost constant appearance of disrepair. I suppose it depends on who actually owns the place but they are unlikely to give the the place up without significant resistance bearing in mind the size of land it sits on and the fact that relocation would be extremely costly for a part time venture.
craig lindsay July 27th, 2011, 02:35 PM Multi-million pound construction work which will bring hundreds of jobs to Glasgow’s East End has been given ministerial approval.
It came after Scottish Government minister Alex Neil went on an hour-long tour of three building projects in Bridgeton which are set to breathe new life into the area.
Mr Neil, Cabinet Secretary for infrastructure and capital investment, saw ongoing work at derelict shops and businesses in Dalmarnock Road which are being converted into business units.
Red Tree Business Suites are costing £3.6million and when completed in May will generate 50 jobs.
The minister was also taken to the 100-year-old listed Olympia Theatre which is being converted into a £10m community hub due to open late next year. Facilities will include a library, offices and a centre of excellence for the country’s top amateur boxers. It’s expected to generate 70 jobs.
Eastgate was another project visited by the minister. It is Glasgow’s largest new-build office development in London Road – also near Bridgeton Cross – which will provide 6000sq m of floor space. The £9.7m development will be completed in spring when it becomes the new headquarters of Glasgow Community and Safety Services, which is to move 500 staff into the new office.
As well as creating hundreds of jobs when finished, they are also creating enough work for 95 construction staff. The developments are being spearheaded by the local Clyde Gateway Urban Regeneration Company with the aid of grants from the Scottish Government.
Later Alex Neil said: “It is encouraging to see derelict properties take on a new life as they are redeveloped to meet the modern needs of our local communities.
“These in turn will serve to provide much needed jobs in the area and offer a variety of facilities for local people to enjoy for years to come.”
George Redmond, the local councillor for Bridgeton and a Clyde Gateway board member, said: “All three of these projects are improving how the area around Bridgeton Cross looks and are bringing much welcomed jobs. But the impact of this unprecedented level of investment goes much further than that.
“The Dalmarnock Road shops have been an eyesore and a blight on Bridgeton for years while the Olympia has towered over the Cross as a symbol of the area’s proud heritage.
“Everyone you speak to locally is hugely excited by all of this activity and looking forward to everything opening over the 18 months.
“I’m particularly pleased with the progress on Eastgate as the 500 staff from GCSS will be the first wave of what will eventually be tens of thousands of jobs attracted to Clyde Gateway over the coming years.”
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk:80/news/editor-s-picks/minister-tours-sites-bringing-hundreds-of-jobs-to-glasgow-1.1114261
M_Riaz August 3rd, 2011, 05:16 PM DAWN GROUP DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES EMPLOYMENT BOOST TO GLASGOW’S EAST END
Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment, Alex Neil MSP, was on site to view Dawn Group’s progress at Eastgate as construction continues apace.
The 6,000sq m Grade A office development in the east end of Glasgow is providing much needed employment and training opportunities to the local community and Mr Neil met some of those who are benefiting during his visit.
Dawn Construction, the construction division of the Dawn Group who are building the new office development, and fit-out contractor City Building have committed to providing opportunities for local residents in the form of full-time posts, modern apprenticeships, training placements and work experience.
Eastgate is one of three projects underway in the Bridgeton area of Glasgow which will collectively provide employment for 95 construction workers at peak activity.
At the site Mr Neil met eight of the local residents employed on the project. In addition, the development will also provide a boost to the local economy during the construction process and on hand was Gus Macdonald of east end firm Parkhead Welding, one of several local companies employed on the project, to explain how the area and local businesses were benefiting from their in the project.
Mr Neil was joined on the visit by Alan Macdonald, chairman of Dawn Group and Ian Manson, chief executive of Clyde Gateway. The £10 million office building is transforming a derelict site at Glasgow’s Bridgeton Cross, a vital part of the first phase of the Clyde Gateway regeneration project.
Funded by Aviva Investors, Eastgate will house 500 staff from Glasgow Community Safety Services following the agreement of a 20-year lease with Glasgow City Council. The Grade A office space is being built by Dawn Construction and will be fitted out by Glasgow City Council’s arm’s-length construction company City Building and is due for completion in Spring 2012.
Speaking on his visit to Bridgeton, Alex Neil MSP said: “I am delighted to revisit the Bridgeton projects and see the progress being made as part of the regeneration of the east end of Glasgow.
“It is encouraging to see derelict properties take on a new life as they are redeveloped to meet the modern needs of our local communities. These in turn will serve to provide much needed jobs in the area and offer a variety of facilities for local people to enjoy for years to come.”
Alan Macdonald, chairman of Dawn Group, added: “Construction is progressing well at Eastgate and once complete it will really transform this area of Bridgeton, both in physical and economic terms, and act as a catalyst for further regeneration.
“Along with the £200m Collegelands development, this is our second major project currently on the ground in the east end of Glasgow and we want to ensure that it leaves a lasting positive impact. As one of Scotland’s leading constructions companies, we are committed to creating employment and training opportunities for local residents during the construction period to equip them with valuable experience and transferable skills which will stand them in good stead long after the development is complete.”
www.dawn-group.co.uk
craig lindsay August 8th, 2011, 03:56 PM ..
G1p August 8th, 2011, 04:01 PM Craig, did you really need to repeat M Riaz's posting of 3rd August?
craig lindsay August 8th, 2011, 04:06 PM Craig, did you really need to repeat M Riaz's posting of 3rd August?
Sorry I didn't notice.
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