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612bv3
July 25th, 2005, 03:13 AM
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/24/MNGFIDSS7D1.DTL
99 ways to get respect
Vote due this week on upgrade for busy Central Valley road
Michael Taylor, Chronicle Staff Writer

Sunday, July 24, 2005

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Fairmead, Madera County -- It's lunch hour in the parking lot of the Mammoth Orange, an iconic hamburger place on Highway 99, the seen-better-days freeway that runs down the spine of the Central Valley. Just a few feet away, as the customers munch, cars and trucks thunder by at 75 mph.

"Noisy?" shouts Ira Stiggins, one of the Mammoth Orange's proprietors, as the waitresses around him scurry to bring cheeseburgers and drinks to truckers, tourists and other customers. "I don't hear it anymore."

Noise and hellish traffic are ever present on this section of Highway 99, an ancient artery that runs through farm country and a string of urban chokepoints from Sacramento south past Bakersfield. At times, the hot, wasted bleakness seems like something straight out of "The Road Warrior."

Countless 18-wheel tractor-trailer rigs bouncing over Highway 99's weathered surface have left their mark. Every half-mile or so, sometimes in the middle of the road, is the carcass of a tire. Occasionally, there's what looks like the carcass of a car. And here and there, thanks to a lack of interstate-style on-ramps and off-ramps, motorists trying to get from one side of the road to the other make mad dashes across high-speed traffic.

On this day, barely a mile down the freeway from the Mammoth Orange, a flipped-over cement truck sits on its side in the 100-degree heat, like a giant wounded pig, its underbelly exposed to the sun. Farther down the road toward Madera, someone eating a hamburger says, a truck has caught fire and is sitting by the side of the highway, flames shooting up.

Like Rodney Dangerfield, Highway 99 is the road that gets no respect. It is not part of the rich interstate system. It has none of the glamour of Highway 1, its scenic and curvy brother in the state road system. Highway 99, with its worn surface and frequently crowded lanes, is not even a speed heaven, like its newer neighbor to the west, Interstate 5.

But that's about to end, if a well-organized gaggle of legislators, nonprofit groups and others have their way. This coming week, members of a congressional conference committee will consider a provision in a $290 billion federal transportation bill that could start things looking up for old Highway 99.

The bill, if approved by Congress and signed by President Bush, would designate a 275-mile section of Highway 99 south of Sacramento as a "high- priority" federal road project, allowing it to join about 50 other roads around the nation that share $6 billion in highway improvement funds.

There is also an attempt to get that part of the freeway renamed as an interstate highway -- Interstate 7 is the current candidate -- making it eligible for more federal cash. The legislation is a joint effort by the nine members of the Central Valley's congressional delegation.

"Highway 99 is the lifeblood of the entire state," Rep. Devin Nunes, R- Tulare, said in a telephone interview from Washington, D.C., pointing out that the Central Valley's agricultural output needs to "go to ports for export, and to major population centers."

All this, however, will take years to work out, Nunes said, and the current effort by Central Valley partisans to turn Highway 99 into a sparkling piece of wider and safer roadway is "just the first step in a very long process. It will have an impact in 15 to 20 years. This (legislation) is basically turning on the key."

To understand what Nunes and others are talking about, it's instructive to take a drive along Highway 99.

In the populated areas south of the state capital, the highway is crowded, almost up to its edges, by railroad causeways, housing developments, shopping centers and orchards. The tire carcasses are strewn about, and there are distracting vistas on either side -- the Turlock Auto Mall, the Meyenberg Goat Milk plant, a weathered steel roof bearing the almost legible words, "Mail Pouch."

Farther south, the encroaching developments and shopping centers give way to agricultural lands baking in the sun, stretching to the horizon -- flat, tan and green, thousands upon thousands of acres.

Occasionally, there are level crossings on the highway, openings that allow for cross traffic. Drivers wait for a brief break in the onrushing cars, dart across to the middle of the road, look the other way and then dart again, hoping to reach the other side before being blasted to oblivion by a big rig.

Shutting down these haphazard exits and entrances would be just one of several changes made possible with federal money, said Carol Whiteside, former mayor of Modesto and now president of Great Valley Center, a nonprofit public policy group that lobbies for improvements to the roadway.

Whiteside said the plan is to make the highway six lanes wide all the way from Stockton to Bakersfield; it's now four lanes in some places. There are also hopes of improving, and even in some cases creating, road shoulders.

In the larger scheme of things, though, Whiteside wants the rest of the country -- the tourists who flood California -- to understand (echoes of Rodney Dangerfield here) that this is California's main street and it's qualitatively different from I-5, I-80 or Highway 101. It represents a different kind of California than those places do.

"When Easterners think of California," Whiteside added, "they think of freeways, Hollywood and beaches; they don't often think of agricultural areas, farms, fresh produce. I love to tell people, 'When you guys are wearing your jackets at 10 p.m. in July in San Francisco, we're sitting by our swimming pools enjoying a glass of white wine.' Well, we do have a few yuppies in the Valley."

Yuppies aside, there's also the possibility that if Highway 99 isn't changed, it will "choke off economic development (of the Central Valley)," said Pete Weber, a former business executive who is now co-chair of the Regional Jobs Initiative in Fresno.

Weber says that back in the 1950s, when the Eisenhower administration was cranking up the interstate highway system, "Highway 99 met all the criteria specified by the system designers, but, for whatever reasons, it wasn't included in the system. Those of us who are proponents of the system think it's an omission that needs to be rectified."

Some parts of Highway 99 already meet interstate standards, but others don't. And there are some quaint aspects of the qualifying process.

Weber said one standard, still technically enforceable by the federal government, could probably be dispatched by a waiver. When the interstate system was created, the government required overpasses to be high enough for a Titan intercontinental ballistic missile to pass under. The Titan was phased out by the Strategic Air Command in 1987.

For now, California is working with the federal Department of Transportation to make things better but, as Nunes said, this isn't going to happen overnight.

State transportation officials have completed a "master plan" for the highway, said Sunne McPeak, head of California's Business, Transportation and Housing Agency, who has been negotiating with U.S. Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta over how and when the highway will be made better.

McPeak said the master plan will be converted to a business plan by the end of this year. Then, the state will spend most of 2006 in talks with Mineta's department.

"It just has to be safer and it has to be bigger," McPeak said of Highway 99. "That's why it's a priority."

Back at the Mammoth Orange, the Stiggins family is not quite sure what will happen if the highway gets widened. There's talk of the state fencing off what passes for an exit from the highway to the Orange parking lot.

Ira Stiggins said if that happens, "we're done for." Hungry diners would have to travel a few miles north or south, find a proper exit, cross the highway on an overpass and drive back to the Orange.

Mark DeSio, a spokesman for Caltrans, the agency that would do the highway work, said, "If I had a crystal ball, I don't see Caltrans cutting off a business by putting up a fence."

For now, the burger fans still roll in, chomping away while sitting at picnic tables near the big orange serving shed or in their cars.

Bob Busch, a 50-year-old truck driver from Phoenix, sat in the air- conditioned cab of his Peterbilt and explained why he takes Highway 99 on his weekly 750-mile journey hauling orange juice from Arizona to the Bay Area, instead of the smoother ride of I-5.

"There's more to see; it's a nicer ride," he said. "I-5 is just ugly desert. Besides, this is my favorite hamburger joint on the whole trip."

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Down the road

-- Highway 99 was originally called "Legislative Route 4" and ran parallel to railroads running up through the Central Valley. Paving of Route 4 began in 1914. In 1926, it was designated U.S. 99, one of the first federal highways, and ran from Mexico to Canada.

-- In the 1960s, with the construction of Interstate 5 as the major north- south roadway in California, U.S. 99 was gradually decommissioned from the federal highway system and ultimately designated California Highway 99.

-- Fresno, which is on Highway 99 and has a population of more than 427, 000, is said to be the largest urban area in the United States without an interstate freeway running through or near it.

-- The section of Highway 99 under consideration for federal aid and renaming as an interstate runs about 275 miles, from Stockton to where Interstate 5 and Highway 99 join south of Bakersfield. Widening the entire section of freeway to at least three lanes in each direction would cost about $6 billion.

-- If Highway 99 becomes an interstate highway, it would probably be named Interstate 7. It cannot be renamed Interstate 99, because I-99 already exists in Pennsylvania.

-- If Highway 99 becomes an interstate, the existing overpasses would have to be raised to accommodate the bulk of an Air Force Titan ICBM missile, even though the missile was phased out nearly 20 years ago. Experts say, however, that provision could be waived.

612bv3
July 25th, 2005, 03:18 AM
IMO, this highway needs to have repairs badly. The last time I've been on Highway 99, it was so congested and everyone was driving so fast I thought we were going to be in a car accident. This highway has been neglected long enough, it's the worst highway I've ever been to. It's like driving through a third world country. The valley needs this highway to be an interstate or atleast upgrade the damn thing!

samsonyuen
July 25th, 2005, 11:28 AM
Darn, the 99 designation sounds good, but if it will make it safer for drivers, why not? Will they need any upgrades to get it to Interstate level?

sequoias
July 25th, 2005, 07:14 PM
$6 billion divided by 275 miles, so that's...about $22 million per mile, not too bad!

VansTripp
July 25th, 2005, 07:16 PM
$6 billion divided by 275 miles, so that's...about $22 million per mile, not too bad!

That's expensive... :|

sequoias
July 25th, 2005, 10:49 PM
That's expensive... :|

It's not expensive, it includes widening, improving and repaving. $22 million per mile is normal for a interstate project. Remember, they are doing 275 miles of highway, that's a LONG one and it's only $6 billion.

ltsmotorsport
July 25th, 2005, 10:49 PM
Stupid that it would only go to Stockton. If you've ever been stuck on 99 in Sac in 100 degree weather in the summer, you know what I'm talking about. The stretch between Elk Grove and Stockton seems especially dangerous whenever I drive on it.

VansTripp
July 26th, 2005, 12:46 AM
It's not expensive, it includes widening, improving and repaving. $22 million per mile is normal for a interstate project. Remember, they are doing 275 miles of highway, that's a LONG one and it's only $6 billion.

It's ok. That's my thought. :)
:dance:

hngcm
July 26th, 2005, 04:30 AM
Well it wouldn't be a interstate if if doesn't go to another state....

GetOnDaTrain
July 26th, 2005, 05:37 AM
Well it wouldn't be a interstate if if doesn't go to another state....
What does it matter if an Interstate Highway does not go to another state? Before you make assumptions, heres a list of Interstates that run like "Intrastates":
- Interstate 4, Florida (Tampa to Daytona Beach)
- Interstate 7, California (Sacramento to south of Bakersfield) - in the future
- Interstate 12, Louisiana (Baton Rouge to Slidell)
- Interstate 16, Georgia (Macon to Savannah)
- Interstate 17, Arizona (Phoenix to Flagstaff)
- Interstate 19, Arizona (Tucson to Nogales)
- Interstate 27, Texas (Lubbock to Amarillo)
- Interstate 37, Texas (San Antonio to Corpus Christi)
- Interstate 45, Texas (Galveston to Dallas)
- Interstate 49, Louisiana (Shreveport to Lafayette)
- Interstate 72, Illinois (Quincy to Urbana)
- Interstate 73, North Carolina (Greensboro to wherever ??? )
- Interstate 86, Idaho (I-84 to Pocatello)
- Interstate 87, New York (NYC to Canada)
- Interstate 88, Illinois (Quad Cities to Chicago)
- Interstate 88, New York (Binghampton to Albaby)
- Interstate 96, Michigan (Muskegon to Detroit)
- Interstate 97, Maryland (Baltimore to Annapolis)
- Interstate 99, Pennsylvania (Altoona ?? to PA Pike)

Back on topic - it would be nice for California 99 to be upgraded to full freeway status, plus construction to meet Interstate status. If it changes to I-7, I hope the 99 status is still there, you know, cosign I-7/CA 99 and not lose the CA 99 designation. Remember what happened when Route 66 got murdered by the interstate system when it got built?

samsonyuen
July 27th, 2005, 12:01 AM
^Right, it's the network that's Interstate. Interesting about the Interstate-type highways in Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Alaska (PR and AK have interstate designations for funding purposes, but do not have the interstate standard; Hawaii obviously could not be inter-state).

officedweller
July 27th, 2005, 01:07 AM
The highway from the US Border to Vancouver BC and through to Whistler and beyond is still called Hwy 99 - numbered to be consistent with the US numbering.

Azn_chi_boi
July 27th, 2005, 01:26 AM
one thing is wrong about "- Interstate 72, Illinois (Quincy to Urbana)"

I-72 enters Hannibal, MO now... so I-72 is off the list.

hngcm
July 27th, 2005, 04:16 AM
What does it matter if an Interstate Highway does not go to another state? Before you make assumptions, heres a list of Interstates that run like "Intrastates":
- Interstate 4, Florida (Tampa to Daytona Beach)
- Interstate 7, California (Sacramento to south of Bakersfield) - in the future
- Interstate 12, Louisiana (Baton Rouge to Slidell)
- Interstate 16, Georgia (Macon to Savannah)
- Interstate 17, Arizona (Phoenix to Flagstaff)
- Interstate 19, Arizona (Tucson to Nogales)
- Interstate 27, Texas (Lubbock to Amarillo)
- Interstate 37, Texas (San Antonio to Corpus Christi)
- Interstate 45, Texas (Galveston to Dallas)
- Interstate 49, Louisiana (Shreveport to Lafayette)
- Interstate 72, Illinois (Quincy to Urbana)
- Interstate 73, North Carolina (Greensboro to wherever ??? )
- Interstate 86, Idaho (I-84 to Pocatello)
- Interstate 87, New York (NYC to Canada)
- Interstate 88, Illinois (Quad Cities to Chicago)
- Interstate 88, New York (Binghampton to Albaby)
- Interstate 96, Michigan (Muskegon to Detroit)
- Interstate 97, Maryland (Baltimore to Annapolis)
- Interstate 99, Pennsylvania (Altoona ?? to PA Pike)

Back on topic - it would be nice for California 99 to be upgraded to full freeway status, plus construction to meet Interstate status. If it changes to I-7, I hope the 99 status is still there, you know, cosign I-7/CA 99 and not lose the CA 99 designation. Remember what happened when Route 66 got murdered by the interstate system when it got built?

I know, i''m just joking.

GetOnDaTrain
July 27th, 2005, 04:43 AM
one thing is wrong about "- Interstate 72, Illinois (Quincy to Urbana)"

I-72 enters Hannibal, MO now... so I-72 is off the list.
That must have been a recent extension because I didn't know that. All this time I thought I-72 terminated with I-172 outside Quincy.

The highway from the US Border to Vancouver BC and through to Whistler and beyond is still called Hwy 99 - numbered to be consistent with the US numbering.
CA 99, OR 99, and WA 99 all used to be designated "U.S. Highway 99" before the Interstate era. With Interstate 5 orphaning the route piece by piece, US 99 was decommissioned and converted to state routing. US 99 used to follow the route where I-5 to LA, then I-10 east out to Palm Springs (todays CA 111 then CA 86, if I'm not mistaken.)

612bv3
July 27th, 2005, 05:08 AM
This is old, but I just found it today.

http://www.bakersfieldonline.us/news/read/3/37376
Valley divided on Highway 99 future
By: Bill Curtis
9:16 AM Sunday, July 10th, 2005

"Whole stretches are just ugly," said Kevin Birkholz, the economic development specialist with the city of Manteca. "It's an outdated highway that doesn't give investors a good impression."

But while state and local officials are working together on a plan to improve the valley's aging roadway, many aren't sure a proposal to turn it into an interstate is the solution.

Central Valley legislators pushing for the designation in Congress believe the proposal - part of a major transportation bill being hashed out between the House and Senate - would eventually help direct millions of federal dollars to keep up one of the state's oldest highways, first paved in 1914.

Opponents, including some state transportation officials and counties at the northern and southern end of the valley, are afraid the myriad improvements required to raise the highway to interstate standards - estimated to hit $20 billion - would cost more than the federal government can offer, and would pull money away from local transportation projects.

If there won't be enough federal money to cover the expenses of doing things like changing the width of shoulders and the height of overpasses, then the proposal "makes no business sense," said Kirk Lindsey, with the California Transportation Commission.

"Why are we going to sink money into this hole called interstate?" he asked. "I don't get it."

But all state and local officials discussing the roadway's future at a meeting of the Highway 99 Taskforce agreed it has the potential to be the backbone of the region, rather than a back alley.

The group, led by Modesto's Great Valley Center, is a collaboration of businesses, elected officials and policymakers who meet quarterly to discuss plans to improve the roadway.

Improving safety and expanding capacity - projects estimated to cost up to $6 billion - are the administration's first priorities, said California's Business, Transportation and Housing Secretary Sunne McPeak.

Projects like opening up the whole highway to six lanes would improve the roadway's ability to carry goods, and help foster economic development in the region, McPeak said.

What the region needs is to speak with "one common voice, to make a stronger case," McPeak said.

officedweller
July 27th, 2005, 08:15 PM
Yeah, in Seattle, Hwy 99 is (I think) Aurora Ave. North - when you drive that you see old motels and storefronts that seem to hark back from the 1950s and 60s (along side the Costcos and big boxes of today).

Whose Homepage
July 30th, 2005, 01:39 AM
Central Valley legislators pushing for the designation in Congress believe the proposal - part of a major transportation bill being hashed out between the House and Senate - would eventually help direct millions of federal dollars to keep up one of the state's oldest highways, first paved in 1914. (excerpt from the article bv3 quotes above)

Well, it seems those long awaited, hard-fought funds for Highway 99 will be coming through:

House OKs $286.4 Billion Highway Bill is the title of an article in today's San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2005/07/29/national/w084402D60.DTL&type=printable). The bill is reportedly loaded with pork barrel projects (some long-serving congressman is getting a bridge to nowhere built in the middle of nowhere that will bear his name ;) ).

Seems like a good chunk of all those $$$$ is coming to California.

It's a pity such a small percentage of the total federal expenditures for transportation - only $50 billion - is earmarked for transit programs (mainly bus and train projects). At that rate they'll NEVER get people out of their cars! :(

There's also a provision for $6 billion to be spent on transportation safety (again nationwide).


P.S. STRANGE!!! The online article is quite different from the one I read in the paper this morning. :eek:

bagel
July 30th, 2005, 02:11 AM
^^ It is a pity isn't it? Senators and Congressfolk are all complaining about the fact that the US should not be subsidizing rail travel in the US. While they are threatening to cut off funding to Amtrak and the American freight rail system on which they can potentially profit from use fees by passenger and freigh traffic, they continue to subsidize an interstate highway system.

I mean we do need an upgraded Route 99 (though the pockets of local highway tradition will suffer as the original article stated), but I just don't see why infrastructure subsidies for highways cannot be said in the same breath as infrastructure subsidies for rails.