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mrtfreak July 26th, 2005, 05:23 AM What kind of information does the LED displays in the train cars in your place display?
In Singapore:
North-south and East-west lines
-Next stop, (alphanumeric code) station name [scrolls across once]
-Date and time [default display]
-this train will end at (end station name) [flashes]
-(alphanumeric code) station name... (alphanumeric code) station name... [scrolls across once]
-Thank you for travelling with SMRT [flashes]
-*Doors Closing* [flashes]
North-east line
-Next station, (alphanumeric code) station name [scrolls across repeatedly]
- (aplhanumeric code) station name [flashes]
-Please stand clear of doors [scrolls across once]
Bukit Panjang LRT
-Next station, (alphanumeric code) station name [scrolls upwards repeatedly while at a station]
-Door closing [flashes]
-Approaching (alphanumeric code) station name [scrolls upwards repeatedly]
-This train is service (A/B)
Sengkang and Punggol LRT
-Please stand clear of doors [scrolls across once]
-Next station, (alphanumeric code) station name [scrolls across repeatedly]
-Welcome to SBS Transit [scrolls across a few times]
-(alphanumeric code) station name [flashes]
Frungy July 26th, 2005, 05:38 AM Depends on the line and sometimes rolling stock version in Tokyo. On the Yamanote and a few other lines there's an LCD TV that shows a map of the line, travel time to downstream stations, transfers at next station, which side doors open, layout of next station (stairs, escalators, elevator location), final destination, and train type (express local). If there's a break in the schedule or a cancelled service on another line, it'll have a little text message too. All in Japanese and English.
Some trains just have an LED that says next station, final destination, train type, and transfers at next station. Some trains have nothing. Gradually more trains are getting LEDs, and some LCD TVs.
mrtfreak July 26th, 2005, 05:42 AM Sounds like what they have here.
Transfer stations here have the following displays:
EW & NS lines;
Next Stop, EW16 Outram Park Interchange. Passengers travelling towards HarbourFront or Pungool, please alight at the next stop...
NE line;
Next Station, NE3 Outram Park. Passengers may alight and change to the East-West line.
There is an absence of indicating which side the doors open. But this is largely due to the similarity of the station layouts, a vast majority of which are island platforms.
ailiton July 26th, 2005, 05:59 AM Hong Kong:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8306/led00836aq.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5143/led01307bh.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6696/led02675kp.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2469/led04350kn.jpg
hkskyline July 26th, 2005, 06:08 AM Hong Kong
http://www.pbase.com/peterkwok/image/42087872.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/tasminip/image/45567775.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/marioso/k-2.jpg
http://www.hkedcity.net/citizen_files/aa/dz/go4545/visitor_cabinet/120046/mtr_001.JPG
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/marioso/k-5.jpg
Jaye101 July 26th, 2005, 07:02 AM Toronto has full LCD screens that tell weather and sports and Subway info in some trains.
bs_lover_boy July 26th, 2005, 09:28 AM Hong Kong:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5143/led01307bh.jpg
These boards not only displays Stations, Time, but it also displays Advertisments, News, Weather etc.... it only displays the station name before it enters the station, other times, it displays other stuff.
mrtfreak July 26th, 2005, 09:53 AM Toronto has full LCD screens that tell weather and sports and Subway info in some trains.
In Singapore, the newer trains (you can distinguish them by the black colour on the NE line and the blak trains on the older lines) have LCD screens. These show adverts too. On the NE line, they have a ticker tape that shows end destination, next station and things like that.
Jaye101 July 26th, 2005, 06:16 PM :D Only Toronto and Singapore are cool like that.
ailiton July 26th, 2005, 06:32 PM :D Only Toronto and Singapore are cool like that.
Yeah right. Many cities around the world have onboard LCD screens.
hkskyline July 26th, 2005, 06:37 PM The Toronto scheme is only partially complete. In fact, TTC subway trains don't automatically announce the next stop yet while TV screens at stations don't show train arrival information.
Jaye101 July 26th, 2005, 06:44 PM Yeah right. Many cities around the world have onboard LCD screens.
Shhhhh, don't bring it to anyones attention.
Yea it's partial, bu TTC wants revamp the design because not enough transit information is on it. Also we have 40 inch screens (as I've been tol in articles) in our stations.
asohn July 26th, 2005, 08:06 PM New York is also phasing in LED systems like that
mrtfreak July 26th, 2005, 08:46 PM Currently, in SIngapore all newer trains have teh LED displays. They were put in since 1999's Bukit Panjang LRT's opening, along with the LCD screens. The metro trains on the main, older network still lack these fatures though.
At the station concourse, there are LED displays indicating train arrival times in minutes and on the platform itself, there are plasma displays that show advertisements and train arrival times.
The LCD displays in the trains on the older lines are horrible. They just show advertisements, no information what so ever. :bash:
addisonwesley July 27th, 2005, 10:15 AM The TTC subway trains don't announce the next stops, but the conductors do - they have to. And why the hell would the LCDs in the TTC stations announce the next train - it's a friggin' subway, the trains come at regular intervals. There are even signs posted. Unless you're at davisville station, you don't need a sign to tell you at which side of the platform the next train will arrive. God damn Toronto basher.
mrtfreak July 27th, 2005, 10:40 AM The TTC subway trains don't announce the next stops, but the conductors do - they have to. And why the hell would the LCDs in the TTC stations announce the next train - it's a friggin' subway, the trains come at regular intervals. There are even signs posted. Unless you're at davisville station, you don't need a sign to tell you at which side of the platform the next train will arrive. God damn Toronto basher.
Actually, I'd prefer to know how much longer I have to wait for the train's arrival. Its a psychological thing I guess. And many systems world-wide do show the train arrival times. Paris, Hong Kong, New Delhi, Singapore, Malaysia... Somehow you feel "safer" knowing the train is a few minutes away, even if it is as much as 7 minutes.
Besides that, I'm sure the LCD/LED can display service disruptions if necessary. When people jump off the platform here, it causes delays and when these occur, the plasma and LED screens at the stations display: "NO TRAIN SERVICE BETWEEN TOA PAYOH AND ANG MO KIO" or something to that extent.
addisonwesley July 27th, 2005, 10:52 AM Oh, I believe they have disruption notices on the old LEDs *shudder*. And I'm positive the LCDs are quite capable of informing riders about disruptions. Although I've never experienced one.
HasanB July 27th, 2005, 03:36 PM There are LED displays on londons newer tube trains such as the ones used on the jubilee line or on the picadilly line aswell for that matter. There arent any such displays i believe on older trains such as those used on the circle line for example.
The info these LED screens show is the next station ... aswell as what connections can be made at the station and if it is possible to make connection to national rail services.
hkskyline July 27th, 2005, 08:39 PM The TTC subway trains don't announce the next stops, but the conductors do - they have to. And why the hell would the LCDs in the TTC stations announce the next train - it's a friggin' subway, the trains come at regular intervals. There are even signs posted. Unless you're at davisville station, you don't need a sign to tell you at which side of the platform the next train will arrive. God damn Toronto basher.
"Regular" degenerates after peak times, when frequencies decrease. Delays will show immediately and passengers will have more information readily available to them. Train time displays are common in many systems around the world. It's part of customer service, and it has become a reality in today's modern public transit facilities. Technology has advanced, except in Toronto.
addisonwesley July 27th, 2005, 11:19 PM Yes, if it's five minutes - you really need a display to tell you if the train is coming. You're still a T.O. basher. That's all I was getting at. By the way, are you from or residing in vancouver - or any other western canadian city?
Gil July 28th, 2005, 09:20 AM On the Montréal Métro the in-car LED screens flash the name of the station while connecting Métro/AMT/bus routes scroll beneath the name as the train pulls into the station. (This is my favourite feature of these screens.) As it leaves the name of the next station flashes on the screen. In between station the screens have a ticker with news, sports, entertainment and weather - in French of course as well as the date and time. Station names are announced automatically as the name comes up on the screen.
Drunkill July 28th, 2005, 09:40 AM Most of Melbournes trains have LED display (all exept older stock) THough it is only limited in what it says.
The station it is at. Next station (also displaying if it is an express or not)
And if the next station has other lines branching off, what those lines are.
FOr example, what i see everyday on the way to school:
'Malvern...'
"The next stop will be South Yarra, passengers for the Sandringham line, please change trains at South yarra"
As well as the scrolling text, a voice also says the same information, though i wish Time and weather were included.
It's basic, but it helps.
hkskyline July 28th, 2005, 06:15 PM Yes, if it's five minutes - you really need a display to tell you if the train is coming. You're still a T.O. basher. That's all I was getting at. By the way, are you from or residing in vancouver - or any other western canadian city?
Is anything I am saying not true? Toronto does lack these facilities whereas they are commonplace on many transit systems around the world. Does pointing that out constitute bashing? I know it's hard on the ear to hear all this but it just highlights how years of neglect have resulted in a substandard system behind those of other modern cities. By the way, I have a residence in Toronto, but I'm not there most of the year.
Frungy July 29th, 2005, 07:16 AM I don't think most North American cities even have a scheduled metro (as in, the train arrives at 8:35 PM at station X)... it seems more like they just dispatch a train when they feel like it, and say the schedule is "train every 5 minutes between 7 and 9 AM".
addisonwesley August 1st, 2005, 09:15 PM "I have a residence in Toronto" - don't BS.
hkskyline August 4th, 2005, 02:33 AM A train arrival display system will be perfect for trains that are dispatched "at random". Since passengers can no longer rely on paper schedules for exact arrival times, having train arrival times shown will be extremely helpful. I don't think urban subway systems run on set times from the hour. Rather, frequencies are shown in ranges, such as every 2-3 minutes or every 8-9 minutes.
ailiton August 4th, 2005, 02:39 AM "I have a residence in Toronto" - don't BS.
Silly. He's not BSing.
IshikawajimaHarima August 4th, 2005, 04:08 AM Depends on the line and sometimes rolling stock version in Tokyo. On the Yamanote and a few other lines there's an LCD TV that shows a map of the line, travel time to downstream stations, transfers at next station, which side doors open, layout of next station (stairs, escalators, elevator location), final destination, and train type (express local). If there's a break in the schedule or a cancelled service on another line, it'll have a little text message too. All in Japanese and English.
Some trains just have an LED that says next station, final destination, train type, and transfers at next station. Some trains have nothing. Gradually more trains are getting LEDs, and some LCD TVs.
You're correct. LCD TVs in the train are a usual sight in Tokyo.
http://www.uraken.net/rail/tra2/travel-urabe65a.jpg http://www.uraken.net/rail/tra2/travel-urabe65b.jpg
http://www37.tok2.com/home/cityhunter8107/PHOTO_01/E231/PHOTO/SE231-500-31.JPG
http://www37.tok2.com/home/cityhunter8107/BEKKAN/06/PHOTO/DISPLAY06.JPG http://www37.tok2.com/home/cityhunter8107/BEKKAN/06/PHOTO/DISPLAY02.JPG http://www37.tok2.com/home/cityhunter8107/BEKKAN/06/PHOTO/DISPLAY04.JPG
mrtfreak August 4th, 2005, 03:30 PM The visual and text information is so helpful! Wish they had that kind of stuff here. All they use the LCDs for here are advertisements and on the NEL, videos of what to do in emergencies.
HelloMoto163 August 13th, 2005, 03:57 PM underground television : http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bvg.de/ueber/images/design0404.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bvg.de/ueber/e_design0404.html&h=260&w=388&sz=23&tbnid=bOPJ9cdmlAsJ:&tbnh=79&tbnw=119&hl=de&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbvg%2Bfernsehen%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
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