Globe Road (Green Bank Leeds)

This exciting new development at 31* storeys will provide another skyscraper to add to the city's skyline. Assael Architecture Ltd have been announced as the winners of a design competition managed by RIBA which saw saw Assael selected over 72 leading international architects from the UK and Europe including Ian Simpson, Marks Barfield, Carey Jones and Stephenson Bell.

Assael's website (http://www.assael.co.uk/index1.html) states: 'The 2.5-hectare competition site overlooks the Leeds to Liverpool Canal and the River Aire and is situated at a prominent gateway into Leeds City Centre, close to the main station.

Assael's winning scheme consists of over 833* apartments and integrates a mix of uses including offices, restaurants and shops with a large open piazza facing the canal.

Managing Director of Assael Architecture, John Assael said, "We are very pleased to have won this scheme in the face of such strong national and international competition. Leeds is rapidly establishing itself as a home of innovative architectural design and are honoured to have won."

The design comprises a series of cascading buildings generating views of both the canal and the river from most apartments. The form of the buildings have been orientated to maximise sunlight penetration to the riverside and winter gardens are provided to the south elevations to deal with acoustic issues caused by the railway. The strategic gateway to the City is land marked with a tall building to signal the area and the proposal focuses on a large public riverside space, which incorporates Leeds City Council's plans for a new pedestrian bridge crossing the river and canal.

Russell Pedley, Director of Assael said, "We carried out a thorough urban design analysis which helped to evolve the concept, we are delighted this has been recognised by the judges and we will enjoy working with Harrow Estates and Leeds City Council to achieve their aspirations for this significant site.'

* The planning application now puts this development at 31 storey's and 833 apartments.

Data

No. of floors - 31
Height - 120m
Building type - Mixed use
Year of construction - 2006
Architect - Assael Architecture
Location - Globe Road

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/monk.jpg

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/globe.jpg

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/globe_road.jpg

Isnt the 38 storey tower meant to be the last phase of construction? I remeber reading it will start in 2008 and finish 2010 or something stupid like that!

Yeah thats correct. Well I dont think we know if it will be the last phase but someone said its most likeley it will be the last phase, like it is in many developments. It should be quite exciting when this goes up, especially after being teased with that 20 storeys tower and the other towers than will be up around leeds by then.

Good point, if Leeds keeps going the way it is then this 38 storey wont be that bigger thing by then :p

I can't get as enthusiastic about this scheme after seeing that glass beauty that didn't win. Sulking Si :(

I can't get as enthusiastic about this scheme after seeing that glass beauty that didn't win. Sulking Si :(

I agree Smoggie. But on wondering why that didn't win I think maybe it was because this whole development, unlike the failed one, actually faces the canal and river.

Isnt the 38 storey tower meant to be the last phase of construction? I remeber reading it will start in 2008 and finish 2010 or something stupid like that!
This scheme has a 31 storey tower. The 38 storey tower is part of the Monkbridge Forge development next door.

gosh isnt it hard being in such a fast developing city! get so muddled up lol

look out on skyscrapernews.com in the coming weeks because Goth apparently has got an interview with someone involved in the scheme (not sure if architect or developer), but either way might shed some more light on the plans and the timescales for construction. not seen a contract for tender, but if they are planning to be on site in early 2006 (as the YEP reported) then they must be close to closing a deal for site clearance or 1st phase construction pretty soon.

Still a bit suspicious about the tower - hope it turns out better than the renderooneys, especially the one that says 'Landmark' on it, as it feel my old lego bricks may make a more convincing case.

these renders are out of date, apparently the tower has changed,.

these renders are out of date, apparently the tower has changed,.
So could it simply be same number of floors with a different appearance, or different appearance and different number of floors (hopefully more).

ill tell you once they send me the info. they are getting it together now.

There was a good piece about Globe Road in last week's Regeneration & Renewal magazine; it's a pity the articles aren't available online. Each week, an urban planner will scrutinise and comment on a major regeneration proposal, town centre masterplans and the like. The latest was our own Globe Road. It was nice to see some different renders from the ones we've grown used to, though I'm still not sure of the tower. However, it's copper clad and I suppose it's difficult to convey how that will look in a drawing; also, as Gothicform say, there are design changes afoot.

Gerry Hughes (from GVA Grimley), writing the piece, liked the way the proposal opened up the waterside and provided public space there. He also commended the way the architects had responded to the curve of the river and canal by creating a splay of "finger" buildings. However, he was less happy about what he saw as the uniformity of the blocks and the lack of mixture of use. A fair point, I suppose, about the need to provide some facilities other than one and two bedroom flats. But I was surprised about his comments on the "regimented feel" (his words, not mine). While there was a common design, the blocks were of differing shapes and heights and I can't see a problem with that.

Intriguingly, there's a shot from the air and it looks as though the roofs of the blocks (apart from the tower) are grassed. Roof gardens, perhaps?

I hope the tower design has changed, because it is the weakest part of the scheme in my opinion. The midrise section I think is excellent though.

Globe Road is certainly moving forward, Construction News has the full 833 apartments advertised for tender. George Wimpey, Bridgemere Properties and Assael Architects are all listed. The full construction cost appears to be about £80m (which I'd think was quite cheap for a 31 storey tower and 6 or 7 lower rise blocks). If they are planning to be on site at the end of the year, I'd expect some news on who has got the build contract by October/November at the latest.

Of course if Gothic has any other news from his interview...... or most likely is probably waiting to publish on his site instead :)

...........another project which looks like its moving forward. With City One and this all looking like starting by the beginning of 2006, Leeds could be about to experience an even bigger boom in construction than at present

"Date: 2004 - ongoing

Proposed Use: Mixed-use residential

Former Use: Light Industrial

Gross Area: 64,737 m2

Accommodation: 833 apartments, offices, restaurants and shops with a large open piazza facing the canal

Construction Value: £80 million

The design comprises a series of cascading buildings generating views of both the canal and the river from most apartments. The form of the buildings have been oriented to maximise sunlight penetration to the riverside. Winter gardens are provided to the south elevations to deal with acoustic issues caused by the railway. The strategic gateway to the City is land marked with a tall building to signal the area. The proposal focuses on a large public riverside space, which incorporates Leeds City Council's plans for a new pedestrian bridge crossing the river and canal."

right does anyone have any questions regarding this project at all, anything theyd like to find out about it.

"Date: 2004 - ongoing

Proposed Use: Mixed-use residential

Former Use: Light Industrial

Gross Area: 64,737 m2

Accommodation: 833 apartments, offices, restaurants and shops with a large open piazza facing the canal

Construction Value: £80 million

The design comprises a series of cascading buildings generating views of both the canal and the river from most apartments. The form of the buildings have been oriented to maximise sunlight penetration to the riverside. Winter gardens are provided to the south elevations to deal with acoustic issues caused by the railway. The strategic gateway to the City is land marked with a tall building to signal the area. The proposal focuses on a large public riverside space, which incorporates Leeds City Council's plans for a new pedestrian bridge crossing the river and canal."

right does anyone have any questions regarding this project at all, anything theyd like to find out about it.


....................the one thing that is on everyone's minds Gothicform- when is construction going to start?

anything else, about the design... planning issues... anything

anything else, about the design... planning issues... anything

Goth, try these for starters:

1. How many parking spaces? Will each apartment have one (may be self-evident from answer)?
2. How much office space?
3. How much restaurant and shop space? Are any pre let? Do they overlook the canal-side piazza?
4. What is happening to Globe Road? It is not clear from the renders.
5. Are there any new renders (that we can use :) ) or a masterplan?
6. It mentions the bridge, but seems to suggest it is a council aspiration. Will the bridge be built as part of this development? Are there any images of it?
7. Is that copper cladding on the existing renders? How likely is that to get to the final build?
8. What is construction programme? Tower first or last?

Try those for starters! I may think of some more....

Gothic,
with regard to design, as well as the obvious questions about height and number of floors still 31, can you determine if the appearace has changed substantially from the latest images ? Also, are the mid rise blocks as the previous images and ranging up to about 15 floors ?

Other questions are to do with phasing, how many phases ? and which phase are the tower and mid rises to be built in .. and any dates (years) for these ?

Also, the big question is .. after the collapse of the Eclipse project and similar problems with the Mayfair project, have they got their sums right ...
ie...
selling price - build cost > £0

this is the same as the rendering ive been sent.
http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/monk.jpg
thanks for the questions chaps, ill send them off tomorrow.

this is the same as the rendering ive been sent.
http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/monk.jpg
thanks for the questions chaps, ill send them off tomorrow.

If the rendering is the same, is the image you have not of a better quality?
I scanned that image in from a newspaper.

What I can't understand from these renderings is exactly where is Globe Road itself. I can see no sign of it. Remember, it should run alongside the canal for quite a way at what is the right hand side of the illustration. And it is quite a busy road.

It may be diverted around the back of the development...

What I can't understand from these renderings is exactly where is Globe Road itself. I can see no sign of it. Remember, it should run alongside the canal for quite a way at what is the right hand side of the illustration. And it is quite a busy road.

I would hazard a guess that the area populated by people ambling along in front of the buildings, and adjacent to the canal is a pedestrianised Globe Road?

of course its better quality. i just cant be arsed to post it yet :)

What I can't understand from these renderings is exactly where is Globe Road itself. I can see no sign of it. Remember, it should run alongside the canal for quite a way at what is the right hand side of the illustration. And it is quite a busy road.

If the plans I saw were correct, the building you see on the left lies between Globe Rd and the canal. Look, then, to the right and where you see all those antlike people milling about, that's Globe Road conveniently shorn of its traffic for the render. So Neilynoo is spot on.

If the plans I saw were correct, the building you see on the left lies between Globe Rd and the canal. Look, then, to the right and where you see all those ant like people milling about, that's Globe Road conveniently shorn of its traffic for the render. So Neilynoo is spot on.

Well I walk there quite often and it IS a pretty busy road - and is likely to get even busier with all the developments proposed in the area. No place even for ants to walk or mill about ! Neither has there has been any talk or hint of a diversion of the road and unless that is proposed the renderings are misleading.

Well I walk there quite often and it IS a pretty busy road - and is likely to get even busier with all the developments proposed in the area. No place even for ants to walk or mill about ! Neither has there has been any talk or hint of a diversion of the road and unless that is proposed the renderings are misleading.

Fred, if you look at Question No 4 on post #20, I have already asked this of Gothic. Hopefully we will get a response from the developers. Interesting you walk there quite often.....Do you spend much time on Water Lane as well... ;) ;)

Fred, if you look at Question No 4 on post #20, I have already asked this of Gothic. Hopefully we will get a response from the developers. Interesting you walk there quite often.....Do you spend much time on Water Lane as well... ;) ;)

Ha ha ! But you see what a reputation the area has now achieved. Let's hope all the proposed developments will move the ladies of easy (if not free) virtue move away.

gees, if all the developments that are planned come to fruition I doubt there will be any chance of ladies of negotiable affection remaining around HUV! It'll virtually be a residential and office district with gastropubs and galleries. Hopefully.

I reckon of all the other schemes mooted, Globe Road seems to be fairly certain and locked on to start early 2006. This and Mayfair together will give a real focus to the west end of the city.

It looks fairly good for an early 06 start for Globe Road. The project seems to have progressed steadily without hicups so far. Even if they are starting with the mid-rises, that 15 storey one at the end would make a pretty stunning addition to the skyline on it's own.

I quite like that new image of the development, the tower looks great, and seems to be shown at about 34 storeys. Looking forward to the results of Gothic's investigations.

morning campers! Nice surprise today, a half page spread in the Sunday Times homes section advertising Globe Road. But get this, we have a name - from now on the entire development is to be known as greenbankleeds, and they've launched a rather wizzy website as well.

GreenBankLeeds (http://www.greenbankleeds.com/index.php?section=homepage)

Prices for the cheapest studio is £105,000 yadda yadda. There's going to be a stand at the Excel Home Buyers Show in London 23rd-25th Sept and some juicy discounts offered - full furniture packs, legal fees paid etc.

Here's the site plan from the website:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9919/greenbank8ab.jpg

Looks like the hunch that this will get going asap is well founded. Top news indeed.

Furthermore, from the siteplan on the website only three of the apartments blocks have been released, which are:

Providence Tower - 30 storey tower with 130 1,2 and 3 bed apartments;

Whitehall Place (unsurprisingly the block running parallel to Whitehall Road with 42 1 and 2 bed apartments; and finally

Pioneer Place (the next big block along with 171 1, 2 and 3 bed apartments.

This pretty much confirms that the first phase of construction will include the 30 storey 'Providence Tower'. Huzzah!

P.S. Here's another image looking from the canal towards Whitehall Road with Pioneer Reach, Whitehall Place and Providence Tower in the background :)

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9541/greenbank28sr.jpg

sorry chaps - couldn't resist one final shot. Rather strange through as that view is not actually possible due to the presence of Riverside West on the corner of the Aire (i.e. the green bit in the foreground). That said, gives good impression of the massing, height and impact Green Bank will have. Still think the top red/copper bit of the Providence Tower looks a little eeeeeeeeck, but once realised i guess (hope) will look considerably better.

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6553/greenbank33gx.jpg

morning campers! Nice surprise today, a half page spread in the Sunday Times homes section advertising Globe Road. But get this, we have a name - from now on the entire development is to be known as greenbankleeds, and they've launched a rather wizzy website as well.

Jimbo, you're a star and you've brightened up a dreary Sunday morning!

Looks really good- and are those grassed rooves I can see? Good news all round! I'm sure it will go ahead, theres not much people can have against it seeing as theres nothign to shout about in the immediate area atm.

Hey Guys,

Been away for 6 weeks and I come back to this plus the 52 storey tower at West Point!

Awesome!

Love it! Well done Jimbo, this development will a great impact on the skyline, particularly coming into Leeds City Station.

Hope it starts soon.

Looks really good- and are those grassed rooves I can see? Good news all round! I'm sure it will go ahead, theres not much people can have against it seeing as theres nothign to shout about in the immediate area atm.

The roofs certainly seem to be covered in grass! Superb! With these and Temple Mills, I'm thinking of digging out the strimmer and setting up a grass roof cutting business! Either that or get a herd of goats and rent them out to the freeholders! ;)

I quite like the look of the low rise elements, assuming that the red section is copper to match the tower and not my good mate terracotta panelling! They look a bit like mini versions of the NV Buildings in Salford Quay if you squint a bit! The tower certainly looks promising, will be interesting to see how the copper cladding ages.

I'm still non the clearer as to whether Globe Road is being rerouted, the renderings seem a little ambiguous about where the road is.

The map shows it going around the front of the development- but maaybe it will be pedestrianized with traffic rerouted, rather than the road itself.
Meanwood Urban Farm has a grass roof too...

The map shows it going around the front of the development- but maaybe it will be pedestrianized with traffic rerouted, rather than the road itself.
Meanwood Urban Farm has a grass roof too...

Another potential customer for Si's Grass Roof Services Ltd then!

Yeah, I guess the road will remain where it is, hope that it gets resurfaced soon, there's some evil potholes in Globe Road, one is my prime suspect for wrecking the sidewall on one of my tyres a while ago, a painful business at £150 per tyre :(

Love it! Well done Jimbo, this development will a great impact on the skyline, particularly coming into Leeds City Station.

Hope it starts soon.

Had a walk down there this am. As you may know the site is currently being used as a car park. I asked the attendant when the car park was due to close. He has no idea but expects building will not start until next year. So no early start Skychaser ! Lower down Globe Rd. Madison Hosiery has been demolished but is to be used as a car park. A site opposite between the railway lines is also being demolished by the same firm.

Had a walk down there this am. As you may know the site is currently being used as a car park. I asked the attendant when the car park was due to close. He has no idea but expects building will not start until next year. So no early start Skychaser ! Lower down Globe Rd. Madison Hosiery has been demolished but is to be used as a car park. A site opposite between the railway lines is also being demolished by the same firm.

I've always found the car park attendants at half of these sites don't know their ar$e from their elbow. That said I supposed they'd get a reasonable amount of notice before the car park is shut. Let's hope Yorkshire Forward buy the Madison site and try to extend the Tower Works site right the way along to the railway bridge.

Let's hope Yorkshire Forward buy the Madison site and try to extend the Tower Works site right the way along to the railway bridge.

There's a building in between which once housed an antique centre.

There was an application to replace the madison hosiery building with a 9 storey block a while back, but it was withdrawn (didn't find out why).

Forgive me if I've already posted this photo earlier, but I believe it shows the car park in question:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/globefeb04.jpg

Ive always thought at the end of the inner ring road, at the roundabout @ Armley, something needs doing. This is actually a major gateway site, and probably shouldnt be a building, but maybe a sculpture or something decent to make first impressions on Leeds, or at least the city centre as this is the main route in and out of the south and west of the city really...

There was an application to replace the madison hosiery building with a 9 storey block a while back, but it was withdrawn (didn't find out why).

Forgive me if I've already posted this photo earlier, but I believe it shows the car park in question:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/globefeb04.jpg

Yes that's right, that is the car park on which the majority of the Globe Road devlopment will be built. Where the small white van is parked in the top left corner of the site will be the 30 storey tower.

Imagine the scene in a couple of years time:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/whiteskydec03.JPG

The 30 storey globe road tower will be at one end, with the 52 storey west point tower at the other, with other midrises in between. Mouth watering prospects

Imagine the scene in a couple of years time:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/whiteskydec03.JPG

The 30 storey globe road tower will be at one end, with the 52 storey west point tower at the other, with other midrises in between. Mouth watering prospects


Very good photograph Talisker. Taken about 18 months-2 years ago ?
Don't forget a multi storey on the site the Doncaster Works - might just show up on the left of the photo. :)

That must be the first time geordie talisker, has said anything nice about leeds, its good to hear. this is one of my favourite developments and hopefully it will be on site and up and running very soon. i guess the loss of supertram funding will have a positive effect on the leeds skyline meaning more and more high rise developments because lets face it who wouldnt want to live within 5mins walk from work against a 45min to an hour car ride twice daly. come on leeds let fuckin have it!¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One little technicality to do with the Globe Road ('Green Bank') development.

Despite all the advanced design and marketing work, there is the small process of getting planning permission. I think they only have outline permission and are still awaiting full permission.

One little technicality to do with the Globe Road ('Green Bank') development.

Despite all the advanced design and marketing work, there is the small process of getting planning permission. I think they only have outline permission and are still awaiting full permission.


Good one Rob ! :bash:

I think it will and should get planning permission- this area can only improve, and it will improve the first sights of Leeds by some people coming in by train- infact how many factors are actually against this? I can't think of any...

Actually I don't think there will be any trouble in getting approval. The design is the winner of a competition for the site. Nevertheless, as Rob points out, it is a hurdle which is yet to be jumped before any thought of construction !

Here's the Times ad from Sunday:

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4984/pic15ez.jpg

Here's some images I've cobbled together from the website. We now know where the road is in the pictures - completely hidden until the plan view! Hah hah - I guess Globeroadside living is not quite as appealing as canalside. We can now also see that two small buildings will be REALLY canalside on the other side of Globe Road. If this scheme happens it will utterly transform the area - the site itself is huge plus all the landscaping needed - and hopefully some tarmac to level Globe Rd which is an absolute fucking disgrace.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5554/pic20sm.jpg

BWP at one end of Globe Road/Water Lane and this at the other with all the mid/low rise stuff in between inc Tower Works. Marvellous. Might get a better class of prostitute with any luck for dear old Fred2!

Might get a better class of prostitute with any luck
A throwaway comment that has a serious side.
What is being done to rid the area of the 'road side attractions'?
Certainly the Round Foundry/Marshall St area is still plagued by them as is under the viaduct. Even when driving around the area during the day!

Yes Globe Road is shown on the plan, but there is no sign of it on the renders.I think it might be pedestrianized with traffic flow directed a different route.

Yes Globe Road is shown on the plan, but there is no sign of it on the renders.I think it might be pedestrianized with traffic flow directed a different route.
Ahem...see that tall thing? It's a building. See the other blocky things? They're buildings too. Could it be that Globe Road is obscured by these building things? Just a thought.

Anyway, as ever, LN1 the optimist!

It might be behind the trees, and think about it- its hardly a busy road anyway. Shouldn't make too much difference. Many riverfronts have roads upfront- the Doncaster Lakeside has the buildings behind the road.

It might be behind the trees, and think about it- its hardly a busy road anyway. Shouldn't make too much difference. Many riverfronts have roads upfront- the Doncaster Lakeside has the buildings behind the road.
Unfortunately LN1, Globe Road is a particularly busy through route to the M1/M621 junction just by BWP - that's why it's so bleedin' pot-holed, natch!

Developers always CGI-away things they don't want people to see. Renders are notorious for painting rosier pictures than Alan Titchmarsh. I note that in the close-up there are cyclists and a hint of pedestrian crossing but no cars! Perhaps they couldn't find a petrol station with any petrol in it...

Notice also the big raised railway line seems to be missing from right next to this development on the renders. I think this will put off some people!

Some factors such as the road and railway may attract people to these apartments- because these sort of factors will put the price down, making city living more affodable. Its not as busy as some roads where developments are- such as Trinity 1, The Gateway, The Plaza, BWP, Mayfair, for example.

BWP at one end of Globe Road/Water Lane and this at the other with all the mid/low rise stuff in between inc Tower Works. Marvellous. Might get a better class of prostitute with any luck for dear old Fred2!

Many thanks for your concern Magicrealist ! I look forward to it - when the development is completed, if I live that long, I should be 83/84 !

It might be behind the trees, and think about it- its hardly a busy road anyway.

That's where Globe Road got to, it was hiding behind the trees all along, the cheeky little blighter! :D

As Magic rightly says it's a major route out of the city to the motorways, busy as you like in rush hour, not to mention the nocturnal activities! :shocked:

Notice also the big raised railway line seems to be missing from right next to this development on the renders. I think this will put off some people!

quite a few of the apartments at the back of the lowrise blocks will look out onto the main railway line into Leeds which includes the mainline GNER trains from London. Triple glazing and good insulation needed me thinks. The £105,000 price tag suggests they may have priced the apartments with this aspect the cheapest. The tower would have to be many peoples choice of residence I'd presume. 29th floor facing the city centre - BWP and potential Venture/West Point Towers. Hubba.

I don't know if anyone has seen these images of the Globe Road site, by 'Virtual Planit Ltd' architects, it must have been one of the competition entries that never made it, but certainly has a number of similarities with the winning Assael scheme !

http://www.virtual-planit.com/images/tallBuildings/globeRoad_1.gif http://www.virtual-planit.com/images/tallBuildings/globeRoad_3.gif http://www.virtual-planit.com/images/tallBuildings/globeRoad_2.gif

I like the current one better- that one looks a bit 'plastic' looking- hope you know what I mean, not as real looking at the current one. I don't mind the design of the tower though, but it needs to be a bit thinner, as there are no vertical lines. I wouldn't mind seeing the tower somewhere else in the city...

I don't like that other design, too flat, also there's too many glass clad towers out there, it's good to see an architect not going for the easy option for once.

I don't know if anyone has seen these images of the Globe Road site, by 'Virtual Planit Ltd' architects, it must have been one of the competition entries that never made it, but certainly has a number of similarities with the winning Assael scheme !

http://www.virtual-planit.com/images/tallBuildings/globeRoad_1.gif http://www.virtual-planit.com/images/tallBuildings/globeRoad_3.gif http://www.virtual-planit.com/images/tallBuildings/globeRoad_2.gif

Aw that's not fair Rob, I love that tower! The copper clad one looks interesting but it's not a patch on this beauty! :(

The tower aside, the lowrise section looks like a 60's council housing development.

Virtual Planit are not architects they produce visuals and promotional material for architects and developers and such like. Based in Altricham I wouldnt mind betting that this was a conceptual render of Stephenson Bell's shortlised design by the looks of it.



Result: Globe Rd housing competition


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Assael Architecture Ltd

On 20th May Harrow Estates plc, announced Assael Architecture Ltd as the winners of the design competition to find a residential and mixed use scheme for the prominent five-acre waterfront site in Leeds City Centre.

The site has a strategic and visually important location enjoying open aspect views across the Leeds-Liverpool Canal and the River Aire.

The competition brief called for a predominantly residential use and placed particular emphasis upon achieving high architectural and urban design quality.

The competition attracted seventy two expressions of interest including submissions from Norway, Belgium, Sweden, Spain, Italy and Austria. Following preliminary interviews five architectural practices were invited to submit design proposals. The shortlisted teams were Assael Architecture (London); Carey Jones Architects (Leeds); Marks Barfield Architects (London); Ian Simpson Architects (Manchester); and Stephenson Bell Architects (Manchester).

The Assael design submission closely met both the several interwoven requirements of the Competition Brief, and the complex configuration of the Competition Site. The design proposals provide for several separate apartment buildings of varying height, generally between eleven and fifteen storeys, providing 45,150m2 of residential accommodation. Individually the profile of each of these buildings in stepped down in height towards the waterside.

Harrow Estates and Assael Architecture will now work up the proposal for the site and submit a planning application to Leeds City Council. It is envisaged that the project will take a number of years to complete and will create a vibrant new residential area in this visually important location within Leeds City Centre.

Jennie Daly, Director of Planning for Harrow Estates, who specialise in the reclamation and master-planning of old industrial and derelict sites for investment and redevelopment, said: "We were delighted with the level of interest in the competition and the high calibre of all the entries. The Assael design in particular, met all of the demands of the brief in an imaginative and exciting way, as well as achieving a high architectural and urban design quality that will create a lasting impression on the Leeds waterfront. We are looking forward immensely to the challenge of taking this design forward"


Assael designed the GN tower in Manchester and in plan form I'd say that the Globe Rd tower looks remarkable similar [to the tower section of GN]. Anyway this whole development looks class too. Always thought the tower would front the railway line - seems amost a shame to tuck it away at the opposite side of the site.

The tower aside, the lowrise section looks like a 60's council housing development.

Yeah the low rise is a bit shitey but look at the tower! :drool:

I don't see the attraction personally, loosk like a very large sandwich toaster.

those renders are so small and so devoid of detail, "It means nothing to me. I have no opinion about it, and I don't care".

Bring on the copper. :)

Bring on the copper. :)

'Ello, 'ello, 'ello, what's all this then? This 'ere thread is causing an hobstruction!

Hang on, wrong sort of copper.

Passing BWP today, and an AA directional sign has been put up at the corner of Water Lane pointing to the Globe Road site. The signs says "Greenbank". Sounds like this development is about to start. Can't wait for another tower to add to our new collection!

And there's another one further down Water Lane - just before it forks into Globe Road - pointing right!

It all sounds promising , but i still think we might have to wait until next year for a proper start on site (only about 3 months away though!)

It all sounds promising , but i still think we might have to wait until next year for a proper start on site (only about 3 months away though!)

Well its as good an indication as any eh! Could always register on the website or give King Sturge residential a call on 0113 205 3344. May try that tmrw and see what the status is. If apartments sell like hotcakes, then I guess they'll pretty much be getting on with it asap.

Won't be long till Xmas Ahmedd - got my skiing booked again and Xmas can't come quicker!

King Sturge are having an invitation day soon (don't have the exact date), but I believe models and such will be set up in their offices.
Well worth a gander once set up I should think.
No brochures yet.

YEP tonight says that completion of this development will not be until 2011 !!

Yes, thats because the development is in phases. The tower will be in the first phase, and I bet by 2011 we'll be thinkin 'hasn't the time gone fast'.

Nobody will be worrying about Globe Road in 2011. We will all be too busy thinking about London 2012 and Preston Guild :)

doubt it. Despite London 2012 being big it doesn't mean everythings forgotten about. Globe Road will still be a whole year before it anyway.

doubt it. Despite London 2012 being big it doesn't mean everythings forgotten about. Globe Road will still be a whole year before it anyway.

oh sweet sarcasm. one day my son, you may learn.

who gives a shit about when it finishes, the main thing is that it is starting asap. they are marketing like dervishes, they've even got street signs......(note faux excitement).

The tower will go up at the start of the scheme, if its popular and people keep buying apartments, then they'll fast track the rest of the scheme through.

I'll bet my boxers (shorts, not dogs) it'll be finished well before 2011.

Yeh I know it was sarcasm!
Also if it goes at the rate of Clarence Dock then maybe 2011 is realistic.

Yeh I know it was sarcasm!
Also if it goes at the rate of Clarence Dock then maybe 2011 is realistic.

aye - perchance. Clarence Dock has been built slower than my toilet roll tribute to the Burj Dubai. Brewery Wharf has pretty much been finished in the same time as it has taken to build about 1/3rd of Clarence Dock.

The tower will go up at the start of the scheme, if its popular and people keep buying apartments, then they'll fast track the rest of the scheme through.


I wouldn't bet on that on experience so far. Clarence House will be the last to be built in Clarence Dock. Ditto the 26 storey tower in the Gateway development. BWP will not have much competition for quite a while yet.

The fact the tower will be in the first phase is practically fact in that it has been released, before other parts of the development (or I think that was the reason). I suppose brining the tower first will put it on the map straight away making it attractive immediatley. Similar to a BWP effect but with a whole development around it to follow...

I wouldn't bet on that on experience so far. Clarence House will be the last to be built in Clarence Dock. Ditto the 26 storey tower in the Gateway development. BWP will not have much competition for quite a while yet.

But Freddy - the Green Bank website states that only three building have apartments released for sale so far, two of the lowrise ones nearest Whitehall Road, and the Providence Tower (look at post 35). Surely this means that the tower will be one of the first built.........

I wager that BWP will have some competition in skyline stakes ........from both Green Bank and Mayfair.

The fact the tower will be in the first phase is practically fact in that it has been released, before other parts of the development (or I think that was the reason). I suppose brining the tower first will put it on the map straight away making it attractive immediatley. Similar to a BWP effect but with a whole development around it to follow...

bingo - No.1 got in before me (dagnamit!), but the point remains. What's 'brining' No.1? Is it like industrial tuna packaging? Not sure how brining will attract many people, bit smelly in my opinion.

But Freddy - the Green Bank website states that only three building have apartments released for sale so far, two of the lowrise ones nearest Whitehall Road, and the Providence Tower (look at post 35). Surely this means that the tower will be one of the first built.........


We shall have to wait and see. The start, imho, will be on the city side of Globe Road - meanwhile the car park on the other side will still be supplying income. :)

ding dong! Globe Road officially approved by the council - huzzah. Another little step towards the next tall tower! Took 10 months to approve - West Point and Criterion Place better their pp submitted quickly, else theyre won't be any action till late 2006, early 2007. Arrrrrgh!

Application 20/499/04/FU
Received on 16/11/2004

Description
multi level development up to 31 storeys with 833 flats commercial units car parking and landscaping
Location
GLOBE ROAD AND WHITEHALL ROAD LEEDS 11 2916-3300 MAJ
Library

Decision Permission Granted Decision Date 22/09/2005
Add to my list

noticed they had painted the walls around the site last night, looks like there could be some hoardings going up soon. Would certainly seem likely now that PP has been given.

Nobody will be worrying about Globe Road in 2011. We will all be too busy thinking about London 2012 and Preston Guild :)

I believe 'every Preston Guild' is equivalent to our 'every blue moon'. That's optimism for you.

Another welcome addition to the Leeds skyline :cheers:

noticed they had painted the walls around the site last night, looks like there could be some hoardings going up soon. Would certainly seem likely now that PP has been given.

Went past the white painted walls around 'Green Banks' today, and they have started painting grass along the bottom of the wall, should look quite good when it's done. Probably getting ready for the big 7 October launch.

Morning y'all! Was flicking through my Sunday Times and found another big piece on Green Bank re: the imminent launch - and concerns over sustainability. They also say that its not in the City Centre........but surely 5mins walk tops to Wellington Street and the Station - and on the edge of the resurgent Holbeck Urban Village......I'd say its a close to the City Centre as Clarence Dock and Gateway is in the east. Anyway - as per earlier hunch construction starts early 2006 on one of the low rise blocks, and the Providence Tower. Marvellous.

New homes: Trendspotting or following fashion?

The market for stylish urban developments is filling up and new projects such as Green Bank in Leeds face a struggle to compete, says Rosie Millard

The trouble with trends is that if you are not what is known as an “early adopter”, you run the risk of looking rather embarrassingly late in the game. Remember Ugg boots? So announcing that Green Bank, a vast complex in the centre of Leeds, will be “one of the most influential and trendsetting developments Leeds has ever seen” might be seen as a windy boast by George Wimpey City (GWC). Leeds, like most British cities, is already several years down the road of fashionable urban environments, with plenty of “influential and trendsetting developments” such as the apartments in Clarence Dock.
However, George Wimpey, which builds more than 12,000 new homes a year in the UK (with its subsidiary Laing Homes), must not be accused of ignoring what has become perfectly obvious, namely that city living is desirable, and also achievable, thanks to a glut of brownfield sites, the buy-to-let craze and the success of companies such as Urban Splash.

Therefore, it invented its “City” brand in 2001, which has been furiously building urban developments in cities across the UK since then. Leeds seemed to fit the bill for a development of the size of Green Bank, to be built on a derelict former industrial site.

“People have moved back to the city centre here,” says Richard Cook, projects director. “There is quality employment here, it is two hours from London, there is retail, and a university, which means plenty of young people with disposable income — people who are more likely than not minded to stay once they leave college.”

Green Bank, a giant £100m enterprise with more than 800 residential units in one 30-storey tower block and six, smaller, radiating blocks of 6-15 storeys, has been designed by the architects Assael. Each roof on the radiating smaller blocks is going to be grassed over with a special plant that provides a greeny-brown meadowy effect. There will be two “pocket parks” for communal public use, as well as private gardens between each of the buildings and a large piazza. The parks are to be delineated by walls of flowing water, not railings. One of the blocks has been designated for affordable housing, and will have 125 units within it.

The multistorey car park has enough room for about 700 cars, or 85% of the residents. Surely this isn’t very ecologically sound? “There is a demand there,” says Cook. “People need their cars for the weekend. It’s about city living, but people want to get out. We are building plenty of cycle storage, and putting two new bus shelters in, plus building a bridge over the river so people can easily walk into the centre of town. We are five minutes’ walk from Leeds railway station.”

Which brings us to a moot point. GWC describes Green Bank as being “in the southwest of Leeds city centre”. This, say others, is an inventive way of acknowledging this giant development isn’t actually as central as it might be.

“It’s on the city fringes,” says one estate agent. “I don’t know how much Wimpey knows about the area, but it worries me. It’s a premium development, but there is the railway line down the back, and a rat run into town on a very busy road in the front. And Wimpey will want prime values, for what is a non-prime location. Plus, the timing is wrong. There are already thousands of apartments in the pipeline arriving in the fringes of the city centre. Who is going to buy these?”

Plenty of people, says Cook, although the company is clearly keen that people start slapping their money down. If you should go for an off-plan deal at the moment, GWC is currently tempting investors into Green Bank with a deal that looks slightly alarmist, since it includes guaranteed rentals, solicitors’ fees and a furniture package. Prices are expected to range from £105,000 for a studio flat to £145,000 for a one-bedder (420-550sq ft) and £190,000 for a two-bedder. Three-bedders are expected to start at £290,000.

Certainly, once investors have been attracted into the show flat, the specifications look very swanky. Most flats have a view of the canal and River Aire; there will be a 24-hour concierge and the interiors will have the latest trappings of the typical new-build, from defiantly modern kitchens down to chrome door handles.

“Everybody will be able to look out at greenery,” says Cook, who has even brought along a selection of hinges for me to inspect. “You can’t fit a quality door without decent hinges,” is his explanation.

Cook suggests that rents might achieve from £700-£1,000 a month for the two-bedders, but is keen to stress that Green Bank is as much for owner-occupiers as investors. “Investors will always be there in a new development like this because there will be demand. But in such a large scheme, you really need owner-occupiers.” Indeed, it is clear he hopes that the whole development might help to actually shift the orbit of the city centre somewhat.

Eight hundred residential units will need some form of infrastructure, and thus Green Bank will also include space for restaurants, bars, small offices and shops. With commercial and residential being thrown up on such a scale, it is not unreasonable to suggest that Green Bank might well, after a few years, become a destination in its own right.

Construction begins in spring 2006 with Pioneer Reach, one of the smaller towers, and Providence Tower, the “landmark” 30-storey tower which George Wimpey City clearly hopes will signal that even just a little bit out of the centre of town is still a significant place to be.

Green Bank sales, 0113 205 3344, www.greenbankleeds.com

I am pleasantly surprised that the 30 storey tower will be in the first phase of building.

the interiors will have the latest trappings of the typical new-build, from defiantly modern kitchens down to chrome door handles.


Chrome door handles, in Leeds? Whatever next? ;)

There was an advert for Green Bank in the Evening Standard property section last wednesday, they're obviously trying to plug it nationwide which makes me think they're probably expecting a high proportion of buy to let buyers.

I know what they mean about the location, I'm sure it'll be nice in a few years but I have to admit that end of Globe Road isn't really somewhere I'd chose to walk around after dark, and there is the stumbling block of the east coast mainline going directly past.

Despite these factors though, I think the target audience will be aware of the area, and that when completed it will be a good area and some parts of the city will be unrecogniseable. I think its pretty likely that people will buy here anyway, because these factors will undoubtabley push prices down, and so therefore it makes city living affordable for those who can't afford it in prime developments such as BWP.
People will buy these sort of properties now, and as these areas improve with the developments and schemes we know are underway, the price will then go up as will the quality of the area. I would happily buy a city centre apartment wherever it was within the city centre area, knowing that the city is improving. The core of wealth in the city centre will expand with developments like this as the city centre expands anyway so it's not like people are moving into poor areas tht are crime ridden.

This area of Leeds, though rather grotty and unpromising now. is set to be utterly transformed. Just opposite the Green Bank 30 storey tower, on the other side of Whitehall Road, will be the significant development on the Doncaster Works site, which should include another very high rise.
Globe Road itself will see a number of separate developments, and of course there is HUV and surroundimg developments - including Temple Mill. Then there are all the impending buildings on Whitehall Road towards the city centre - Wellington Place on the west side and Whitehall on the east side.
My concern is with Globe Road. Already it is a rather narrow, but very busy, road that will only get busier with all these coming developments.

Guys, I agree with what you're saying. However the Green Bank developers are charging core city centre prices for an area that I wouldn't at this time chose to live, it'll certainly be an area transformed in a few years time but it cetainly won't be by the time the phase 1 occupiers move in.

I can't really understand why someone who knew Leeds well would chose to buy there rather than a more established area such as Clarence Dock, Brewery Wharf or Round Foundary given that the prices seem to be comparable.

Well, time will tell I suppose. If they don't sell, prices will have to be forced down. I wouldnt chose to live here over Clarence Dock but if the price here was cheaper I would consider it.
The problem of Globe Road being so busy may be tackled by the completion of the Inner Ring Road that is supposedley happening. I've seen many prime developments anyway that have busy roads right through/next to them anyway. In an area more notorious for crime it might be reasurring to have a busy road anyway- I dont know really. I live on a busy road and you get used to it, I don't hear it now. Traffic might be routed around water lane instead, and globe road as restricted acess.
'Very High Rise' Never heard that before

The prices do seem a bit ambitous for that area. I would've expected them to be at least £10,000 cheaper, but still, it will be a great area in 5 years time hopefully. I would definately live there in a few years time (The whole scheme sounds excellent, especially the gardens) but I would rather live up near clarence dock at the moment.

Either way, it's good that these developments are extending outwards, and densing up near derelict parts of the city centre.

The prices do seem a bit ambitous for that area. I would've expected them to be at least £10,000 cheaper, but still, it will be a great area in 5 years time hopefully. I would definately live there in a few years time (The whole scheme sounds excellent, especially the gardens) but I would rather live up near clarence dock at the moment.

Either way, it's good that these developments are extending outwards, and densing up near derelict parts of the city centre.

Clarence Dock was VERY grotty prior to 1996 when the Royal Armouries Museum opened, and also for some years afterwards until the residential building started.

Well 1/2 of it is still pretty grotty- I suppose its just a building site really at the moment. It'd be nice to move straight into an area thats already going strong- by 2007 it should be getting to be a bit more of something.
Someone remind me of when Clarence Dock started???? By the time this is finished the rest of the proposed/construction developments now will be finished! Well maybe not but...

Clarence Dock was VERY grotty prior to 1996 when the Royal Armouries Museum opened, and also for some years afterwards until the residential building started.

I know but it isn't now, as much ;)

I was just comparing the globe road development to a similar development.

If I'm being perfectly honest I'd prefer a Victorain Villa overlooking Roundhay Park to both of them.

I don't think the prices are vastly different from Clarence Dock or the Gateway (which won't be the quietest site what with traffic on all sides).

Remember by the time the first blocks are finished we'll be talking about mid to late 2007, and by then I'd expect another building going up on Whitehall Road, Wellington Place to have kicked off and at least one of the Globe Road/Water Lane apartment sites to be u/c as well. Whilst the site is still rather distant at present, I believe that like Clarence Dock (which was really only connected to the City Centre by Brewery Wharf and more recently the new pedestrian bridge, Globe Road and its ajoining areas will be much more connected in 2007. At least they mention the new bridge from Globe Road to the canal path (something City Island missed out on - and is still cut off from Wellington Place on the opposite bank).

Means we'll get another cracking development site starting in the new year. Chin up chaps, it's supposed to be good news.

If I'm being perfectly honest I'd prefer a Victorain Villa overlooking Roundhay Park to both of them.

Likewise! They have so much character, new builds can't hope to compete.

It'd be a tricky choice between a Roundhay pad or a Roberts Wharf flat though.

Likewise! They have so much character, new builds can't hope to compete.

It'd be a tricky choice between a Roundhay pad or a Roberts Wharf flat though.

Not if you have a family !

Likewise! They have so much character, new builds can't hope to compete.

It'd be a tricky choice between a Roundhay pad or a Roberts Wharf flat though.

presumably if we all believed in living in the 'burbs within walking distance of the Flying Pizza and Jimmy Saville, then we might seem a little out of place posting on a skyscraper and inner city regeneration forum. Roundhay...... been there, done that for the first 18 yrs of my life. A 20th floor city centre apartment would do the trick now I reckon.

Not if you have a family !

not planning to make that mistake anytime soon. My best mate has one 3 yr old and twins due in December. He looks permantly knackered and drives a Renault Scenic 'babymobile'. Yee gods!

I could probably be tempted to the top floor of Criterion place ;) If I ever have a family though a victorian mansion in North Leeds would definately be the top choice.

I dont think anyone would particularly turn an apartment down though. I would love a suburban house though on the other hand, but then again, if everyone keeps buyng suburban houses arather than city centre properties, people will generally have a lower quality of life as money has to be spread more wideley across the city.

presumably if we all believed in living in the 'burbs within walking distance of the Flying Pizza and Jimmy Saville, then we might seem a little out of place posting on a skyscraper and inner city regeneration forum.

Then I must be terribly out of place according to you, Jimbo! Is there a maximum age (say 21) above which one shouldn't contribute to this forum ? I am 77 years old with no intention of living in the inner city, but recognise that many others do - but above all I am interested in the progress and development of Leeds.

Well after living in Harrogate (and London) - suposedley a posh leafy suburban looking town (even if its not quite like that), It makes Leeds look like an exciting first choice change for people seeking a city lifestyle, or wanting to enjoy the city 24/7.

I dont think anyone would particularly turn an apartment down though. I would love a suburban house though on the other hand, but then again, if everyone keeps buyng suburban houses arather than city centre properties, people will generally have a lower quality of life as money has to be spread more wideley across the city.

That's some funny logic.

In the meantime I'll go for the happy medium, this place seems stunning, rent's a bit steep though :O

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-4079053.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=rent

Mmmmmmmmmmm.

well its true- if everyone lived in one little really dense area (which of course will never happen, more likeley to have lots of little desne areas) then councils could be loads of money int oone really small area, and people wouldn't need t complain about no garden because the countryside would be so near with no urban sprawl.

That's some funny logic.

In the meantime I'll go for the happy medium, this place seems stunning, rent's a bit steep though :O

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-4079053.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=rent

Mmmmmmmmmmm.

Rent a bit steep for two plasma TVs and a view of Roundhay Park Lake only from the second bedroom !

Then I must be terribly out of place according to you, Jimbo! Is there a maximum age (say 21) above which one shouldn't contribute to this forum ? I am 77 years old with no intention of living in the inner city, but recognise that many others do - but above all I am interested in the progress and development of Leeds.

Yes, well, Fred as you pointed out I don't think that such a sweeping statement was my best post really.

I think we were talking about Globe Road and the relative merits of its location for the city. Whilst a 'Victorian Villa' would be nice (for certain people at a certain time of life) - I would have thought that a lot of the shared enthusiasm on these boards (both Leeds and national) relates to people interested in gentrifying and populating the city centres, increasing the community element and ultimately attracting better facilities for all residents - doctors, dentists and the like. I'd think one of the best ways of contributing would be to actually live in the City (ala Loiner and Magicrealist). Obviously this doesn't discount the views of people who don't!

I'm a poor case in point, living in London Village (although in a regeneration area!), but as a consolation, my brother resides in a city apartment, and if I returned, would do the same.

Of course, there isn't an upper age range Fred. By your suggestions I'd be 6 years past my best anyway.

Yes, well, Fred as you pointed out I don't think that such a sweeping statement was my best post really.

I would have thought that a lot of the shared enthusiasm on these boards (both Leeds and national) relates to people interested in gentrifying and populating the city centres, increasing the community element and ultimately attracting better facilities for all residents - doctors, dentists and the like. I'd think one of the best ways of contributing would be to actually live in the City (ala Loiner and Magicrealist). Obviously this doesn't discount the views of people who don't!

Of course, there isn't an upper age range Fred. By your suggestions I'd be 6 years past my best anyway.

Who was it who said youth is wasted on the young ? :)

But seriously, if we are to restrict this forum only to those who wish to populate city centres then, at the moment regarding Leeds, I bet there are less than 1% of the city's total population living in its centre. We might double that proportion in the next 5-10 years - but still rather a minority market wouldn't you say ? To attract more, and particularly families, a vast amount of resources would have to go into the city centre infrastructure, amenities and environment, plus the building of much more affordable housing. Remember, though, that this is a skyscraper forum and 1. not all skyscrapers are residential and 2. Not all skyscrapers necessarily have to be in city centres - though the vast majority will be.

http://212.50.188.108/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1020016/LADYW/52377/9 a nice Roundhay Villa for you!


I really do think developers have to be careful with the pricing of new stuff coming onto the market in the next 2-3 yrs.
Is a £140k really acheivable on a 1 bed apartment anywhere in the city centre below 15th floor? or without parking?

Anyhoo, moving on from my last pointless couple of posts.

This is from the Wellington Place thread and shows the grey shed which will eventually (next year.......) become the Providence Tower and Green Bank. Will be a superb vista from City Island. I love the old railway viaduct, now cut off but fenced off for years and covered in greenery and ivy. I'm so happy it was never demolished and could act as a wonderful regenerated bridge across the canal and River Aire from the future Monksbridge Works development to Wellington Place.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2033/img00796pt.jpg[/QUOTE]

Jimbo, haven't you got this wrong ? Your photograph is pointing south east looking towards Whitehall Road, and the grey sheds have already been demolished. The building on the right is Riverside West. More to the point however, the proposed Providence Tower (of the Green Bank scheme) will be way to the right of the photograph.

no I think thats correct- its the railway line that gives it away.

Jimbo, haven't you got this wrong ? Your photograph is pointing south east looking towards Whitehall Road, and the grey sheds have already been demolished. The building on the right is Riverside West. More to the point however, the proposed Providence Tower (of the Green Bank scheme) will be way to the right of the photograph.

I think Jimbo was referring to the darker grey shed in the background rather than the ones in the foreground which have indeed gone to the great shed in the sky.

Sorry Jimbo - I didn't scroll to the right enough to see the whole of your picture. On the extrerme right is indeed the site of Providence Tower.

Went past today, wall now covered with logos etc and a nice big render.
Also saw surveyors on site today.

Went past today, wall now covered with logos etc and a nice big render.
All nice and white and ready for the neds to scribble their tags on!

If I was a betting man - which I am - I would put the spread on the number of days until the first graffiti arrives at 5-7. Any takers?

Yes! I'll say tonight if I'm going to win some money!!

Present day scene along the river, with the globe road site on the left:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/leeds_whitehall-quays2.jpg

Talisker, your latest batch of photos are not up to your usual very high standard. Have you been using the sharpening in your photo software ?

They've not been touched, although I think the JPEG althorithm has been applied with too much vigour - they're very compressed looking.

They're not that bad. It's good to have some pics on here.
Whitehall Quay has improved dramatically through your lens!

Yes! I'll say tonight if I'm going to win some money!!

Went past today, all signage etc is up, still clean too !

Nice to see this one moving forward :)

et voila

No tags added as of Sunday lunchtime.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4418/img02972id.jpg

My money is on today at around 18:00. Now where did I put that aerosol...? :D

walked past it about 2pm - not a sausage. amazing. surely proof that this area is now gentrified ;)

Another tower going up, whcih should make the skyline abit denser. :D

My money is on today at around 18:00. Now where did I put that aerosol...? :D

18:45 no graffiti! I don't think we have a big problem with graffiti in Leeds, I'm sometimes suprised about the amount of graffiti in some European cities.

This certainly looks like starting early next year.

There will eventually be alot of tags dont worry.

18:45 no graffiti! I don't think we have a big problem with graffiti in Leeds, I'm sometimes suprised about the amount of graffiti in some European cities.

This certainly looks like starting early next year.

I went to Vancouver about 2 years ago and they made kids graffiti some bridges. Looked good btw.

French cities have lots of Graffiti- especially central ones, and it seems to be carried through into other European cities (Clermont-Ferrand, Grenoble, Chambery, Geneva, Munich) They're all very conretey, same, messy industrial parks sprawling the suburbs full of graffiti, even if the city centres are nice.

Many European cities are plastered from head to toe in graffiti, even historc ones. We went to Amsterdam and that is plastered, so are the mid German cities (Dusseldorf, Dortmund etc).

I love proper graffiti in the right location, some of those guys are true artists, I'm thinking particularly of all the Banksy stuff around Brick Lane.

Obviously I'm not condoning little scrotes spraying their tags around, but in a slightly edgy urban setting a bit of graffiti can be a good thing.

constructive graffiti in traditional urban neighbourhoods where there should be a sense of community like Chapeltown, Harehills and the like, it is good. Theres a certain vibe about these neighbourhoods- it's quite exciting, and feels really cultural.

There is no nice graffiti in harehills or chapeltown.. its all tags. Theres a select few walls in crossgates (train station) and headingly with some good pieces though.

Have they used anti-grafitti paint here?
Still none today!

prices for new Green bank: all starting prices; studio-£105k; 1bed-£146k; 2bed-£196k; 3bed-? parking available for all 1,2,3 bed apartments@£20k

Saw the model recently - looks awesome.
Am informed Marketing suite to be started soon. (site on left of Globe road that has just recently been cleared and levelled)

I assume this is the old design. Worth a look anyhow.

http://www.kingsturge.com/resources/property/residentialimages/2005/01Oct/full_051020051106551.jpg


http://www.kingsturge.com/resources/property/residentialimages/2005/01Oct/full_1310051244372.jpg

Isn't that the new design, from the viewpoint which you can;t get coz Riverside West is there?

That image is also on the Green Bank website, It must be the latest design. The tower does look different in some of the other images though??

http://www.greenbankleeds.com/images/theDevelopment/theDevelopment_detail.jpg

http://www.greenbankleeds.com/images/homepage/homepageImage.jpg

Edit: It could be the old design, I'm not sure. :dunno:

http://www.leeds-cityscape.co.uk/globe.jpg

The model looks very similar, though only made oup of phases that are released.

Apparently at the marketing suite there will be a full model with the tower being 4-5feet high.

What's the height of the tower?

the marketing material has it at 30/31 floors plus some additional cladding...

What's the height of the tower?



120 metres to the roof (plus spire) should be 130+

120 metres to the roof (plus spire) should be 130+

My understanding from the plans is that it is 120m AOD, not actually above ground. I think that puts it around 90-100m above ground.

Stig, my sources tell me you're working in the property game in Leeds. Any idea when the marketing suite opens as the model of the tower will be rather interesting to see from several perspectives?

Someone remind me of the commencement date for this please!? It'll be great going into Leeds on the train and sweeping straight past this- literally, and then coming round to see BWP as well as other possible tall buildings!

Someone remind me of the commencement date for this please!? It'll be great going into Leeds on the train and sweeping straight past this- literally, and then coming round to see BWP as well as other possible tall buildings!

Due on site in the New Year. Don't know who has the build contract though. Also depends on how many apartments are sold as well. Let's hope they sell like hotcakes, and they get cracking on the job in hand.

To be honest, I think they will. It has a tall building in it to pioneer it, and the marketing so far seems quite good. Maybe people looking to move into Leeds with less knowledge of the history of the area are more likely to buy it.

New Year- not bad, this scheme seems to have gone quite smoothly so far (touch wood!)

Jimbo - AIUI they have to build it first! Should be on the left hand side of Globe Rd on the recently levelled land.

Something has been niggling me for a little while. Its the Providence Tower see, I think I've seen it somewhere before, obviously not entirely correct, but the shape, the angles etc do looking strangely familiar. Take note, the reddish brick/cladding bit on the far right of the tower:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9541/greenbank28sr.jpg


This morning as I cycled my way into the City along Holborn and Chancery Lane I glanced up at a site I see on a daily basis and then suddenly there it was, or there they were, the 3 Barbican residential towers. I think that the sharp angles of these towers look incredibly similar to the leading edge of the Green Bank Tower. Probably more of a coincidence than anything else, but there you go. Occasionally I concentrate on the traffic, but most of the time I seem to focus on building sites and cranes. Tis a strange strange thing.
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i had a look at barbican this morning, i guess it does remind me of that, hope that it doesnt turn out like them tho, i am too undecided about them, post modern but also very bleak and imposing, and when its a gloomy grey day the look even more bleak. but i guess thats dwn to the concrete, and globe rd is gonna be clad in copper and more "shiny " stuff!!!!

There's a new application for a two storey sales and marketing suite. I guess that will go up shortly after it's approval, which should be just a formality. I think it will be on the plot of land opposite the Green Bank site, which has recently been cleared.

Had a look today, the sales suite is directly accross the road from the site. The cleared site is a newly extended Globe Road car park, presumably to replace the current one on the Green Bank site.

(The cleared site has its own planning application for a mixed use development, and is not far from the 16 storey application).

Can anyone tell me when they suspect this tower will start construction? and for that matter is it 110% definitely going ahead? with 30+ floors? i have a sneeking sense that this will be the next big one to get underway (with maybe the exception of Clarence House). i hope they start site clearance early next year!

It is in the first phase of development, next year.

Can anyone tell me when they suspect this tower will start construction? and for that matter is it 110% definitely going ahead? with 30+ floors? i have a sneeking sense that this will be the next big one to get underway (with maybe the exception of Clarence House). i hope they start site clearance early next year!

Its being nationally marketed (Times' Brick & Mortar, Sunday Times' Property section, Evening Standard Wednesday property guide etc).

Check out the website Green Bank Leeds (http://www.greenbankleeds.com/index.php?section=homepage) which suggests that the first three phases currently being marketed include the centrepiece tower.

Add to that I think Stig282 works in the property game and has mentioned the marketing suite, which went into planning three weeks ago......

Application 20/509/05/FU
Received on 03/11/2005
Description
2 storey sales and marketing suite building with 8 car parking spaces
Location
GLOBE ROAD LEEDS 2931-3301 LS12 1DR
Library

I'd say, bar total property market meltdown or Leeds falling into a huge hole, that this is dead certain, locked on and ready to rock in the new year :)

And the tower is 31 storeys :banana:

Well thats just swell, i really like this scheme (the location is poor though i.e. being between a road and the railway line which is bad for those overlooking that). So this is set to take the Crown of the tallest building in Leeds? it will make the train journey into Leeds very interesting. And it will give me something to watch from my bedroom window overlooking Leeds at Temple Newsam

Will it be taller than BWP or not? It probabl won't be the tallest for long...

Good news indeed. Let's hope Leeds doesn't drop down that gaping void I noticed the other day.......

So Spring 2006 :)

George Wimpey City unveils Green Bank

Green Bank is one of Leeds' most anticipated regeneration projects to-date. 800 studio, one, two and three-bedroom apartments will be complemented by commercial space for offices, restaurants and shops.

This 'all-encompassing mixed-use development' - or urban village - is designed by award-winning architects Assael. Its groundbreaking design is set to make a considerable impact on Leeds' cityscape. It is to be located in the city centre's southwest, overlooking the Leeds Liverpool Canal and River Aire.

"We are extremely excited to be undertaking such an innovative and important scheme in this beautiful city," says George Wimpey City Managing Director, Graeme Dodds. "We are confident that Green Bank will be popular with investors and owner-occupiers alike, and we anticipate the start of construction in spring 2006."

Green Bank's seven buildings are planned specifically to provide the maximum number of apartments with views over the water, gardens and open piazza.

Prices start from £105,000 for a studio apartment. For further information, call 0113 205 3344 or visit www.greenbankleeds.com

just drove past it - still no graffiti!!!

could be grafitti proof paint?

Providence Tower.
Might needs a new thread but i don't have time at the mo.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1010ProvidenceTower_pic3.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1010ProvidenceTower_pic4.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1010ProvidenceTower_pic1.jpg


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The earlier design

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1010ProvidenceTower_pic5.jpg

Excellent.

now their p.r has settled in ill try emailing again. hopefully she will be better at her job.

The copper cladding seems to have largely disappeared (there is still some at the base of the buildings) to be replaced by something else. Hopefully those are not teracotta tiles that I can see.....

We still don't know for sure that Providence Tower is going to be in the first phase of construction. It appears to be amongst the three released buildings (out of seven), so that is a good sign that it will be, but we still don't know for sure.

We should start a new thread when we hear some firm news about it.

It would be such a shame if they were teracotta tiles as it would utterly ruin a decent design. I get the feeling the council aren't paying enough attention to quality of cladding materials when judging applications.

I get the feeling the council aren't paying enough attention to quality of cladding materials when judging applications.

I don't think the copper-cladding has been dispensed with. I agree with your point however, it's got to the stage where renderings become meaningless because you have to account for the cheapo materials, which are perhaps forced on developments by stingy clients (eg. West Point). I don't know if this is just a Leeds thing or not.

I think the council planners have now virtually banned terracotta tiles on all new developments, due to the stinging criticism that a new 'Leeds look' is being formed (read it recently, but can't remember where). I therefore suspect they would not have just approved Leed's tallest building clad from head to toe in the little orange buggers.

Just to back you up on that, I read it too. I think it was on this site but maybe not

I'd say this is Leeds' version of Montevideo in Rotterdam! But I know they'd never put a big 'M' at the top of it for sure!! Lol!

Just to back you up on that, I read it too. I think it was on this site but maybe not

i posted it going back maybe 6 weeks. it came from a double page feature from the YEP. i think i may have included in the official leeds thread but i haven't time to look.

i posted it going back maybe 6 weeks. it came from a double page feature from the YEP. i think i may have included in the official leeds thread but i haven't time to look.

When I attended the public meeting for the Arena John Thorp was there and he confirmed that Terrecota tiling will no longer be considered as suitable cladding.

We still don't know for sure that Providence Tower is going to be in the first phase of construction. It appears to be amongst the three released buildings (out of seven), so that is a good sign that it will be, but we still don't know for sure.

We should start a new thread when we hear some firm news about it.

Went into the King Sturge office today and asked for information about availabililty of apartments at Green Bank. They said the first release (which apparently doesn't include any in the tower) is sold out and the second release is to be made next week.I think this should be seen as good news - investor confidence seems strong. She could not confirm though that the second release would include some within the tower (although she thought so) but she did say that a start on site would be early spring, with the development to be completed in two or three phases by 2010. Am now on the list for further details, so will post more when known.

The site of the marketing suite is being cleared now, with an excavator on site. That is a quick turnaround as they only got approval a month or two ago. It is the site for what is presumably the last phase of the whole scheme and is across the road from the main part of scheme.

Hardcore was being put on the marketing office site yesterday, so it should be erected soon.

Hardcore was being put on the marketing office site yesterday, so it should be erected soon.

:hahaha: Is it just me who chuckled merrily when reading that post? :runaway:

Hmmm, hardcore and erecting in the same post- I really should have worded that slightly better...

Hmmm, hardcore and erecting in the same post- I really should have worded that slightly better...

Sorry, I am the Finbarr Saunders of SSC! Fnarr fnarr ;)

:hahaha: Is it just me who chuckled merrily when reading that post? :runaway:

No.

Just in time, the pp for the marketing suite has gone through, so I guess they'll be getting this built and opened in no time at all. Hurrah.

Application 20/509/05/FU
Received on 03/11/2005
Description
2 storey sales and marketing suite building with 8 car parking spaces
Location
GLOBE ROAD LEEDS 2931-3301 LS12 1DR
Library

Decision Permission Granted Decision Date 18/01/2006

Couple of photos of the area (showing work on the marketing building)

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/green06-2.JPG

http://members.lycos.co.uk/xapbpoh/photos/green06-8.JPG

More news from my meandering around Leeds yesterday afternoon and evening. Looks like something's set to go up between Trinity One and Fearnes Mill. I forget the name but hope it's going to be of sufficiently high quality for such a great location. Neptune Street is rapidly catching up with Dock Street as my favourite street in Leeds.

I've been asking about flats in Roberts Wharf BTW as a few are coming back on the market. 2 bed top floor with barrel vaulted ceilings overlooking the river on for £275k. Sadly a flat in London is priority for me at the mo. :(

Edit: I lost my bearings and posted rather randomly on this thread rather than the Official Leeds Thread, sorry!

Also wandered along the tow path to check out the work on the Globe Road marketing suite - not much to add to Talisker's post really. Still, like the rest of the Leeds construction sites they were working on Saturday and seem to have the foundations down. Expect a building to appear over the next two weeks or so. BWP peaking out from behind the railways, always a bonus. Huzzah.

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Progress seems slow, the foundations are down, and you can clearly see the shape of the marketing suite, but I thought more might have happened since I last saw the site a few weeks back. No-one working there either today.

The marketing building is being erected now. The steel frame is being put up and looks like it will be completed pretty quickly.

Thats good news. Hopefully they'll start demolishing that large shed soon on the main site.

The marketing building is being erected now. The steel frame is being put up and looks like it will be completed pretty quickly.

The marketing people told me on Friday that its a 16 week build programme for the marketing suite and that they are 5 weeks into that programme. Apparently they plan to move on to the main site as soon as the suite is complete.

Whaow, sounds like a count-down to a start on site !

We still don't know which phases are going to be built in which order, but whichever way round it is, the sooner they get started the better. Still not seen anything about who has the contract for this, but they are not always advertised, particularly for larger developers like Wimpey who will have their own preferred bidders.

Whaow, sounds like a count-down to a start on site !

We still don't know which phases are going to be built in which order, but whichever way round it is, the sooner they get started the better. Still not seen anything about who has the contract for this, but they are not always advertised, particularly for larger developers like Wimpey who will have their own preferred bidders.

Quite so, the contract was advertised in Construction News months ago, but nothing has been mentioned in terms of the contract award. Hey ho, lets hope that they are selling the apartments like hot cakes and want to crack on with the first block on the development. You know, I'd prefer the two low rises to start first so the tower doesn't get going until Clarence House is pretty much finished, gives us a bit of continuity in tall tower action etc.

Wonder how the sales action is going?

Hey ho, lets hope that they are selling the apartments like hot cakes and want to crack on with the first block on the development...
Wonder how the sales action is going?
To my knowledge - a slow starter really.

You know, I'd prefer the two low rises to start first so the tower doesn't get going until Clarence House is pretty much finished, gives us a bit of continuity in tall tower action etc.

This is what is going to happen

Wonder how the sales action is going?

Well the marketing people told me that the whole of the first block (I think she said around 140 apartments) is sold and that the next release is imminent. She also said that the tower would be part of the first phase of the build. But these marketing people ....can you trust them?

Do you know that for a fact Stig ?

The evidence from the website and from MikeinLeeds suggests it may be in from the start, though in other projects this has not been the case, the towers seem to get left until last (Plaza, Clarence Dock). However, the developments released are at the tower end, so would leave little space to build a much larger tower afterwoods when the first part is complete and being lived in.

The tower won't be the first to be built, but I also believe it won't be the last a la CDock.

I know nothing for sure - do any of us!? ;)

will this development ever get u/c though, that is the question

will this development ever get u/c though, that is the question
Eh???

No, it will never get built, the marketing suite they are building there is there to sell luxury living space in that big shed that is on that site at the moment

Globe Road will certainly be built and even maybe the 27 storey tower will be in the first phase. But Mayfair ?

Globe Road will certainly be built and even maybe the 27 storey tower will be in the first phase. But Mayfair ?

31 storey's Fred!

Mayfair (28) I think we should jsut leave at the moment until we hear any more news. Providence looking like it will definetley go ahead; I expect in the 1st phase but maybe the second. It's quite suprising how small the site is and how narrow the canal basin gets at that point. When these buildings get built it really will feel quite dense. The plans always make things look bigger than they are- BWP seemed to be a tiny footprint!

Both the Times Bricks and Mortar section on Friday and today's property section of the Sunday Times reports big marketing events. The first was at King Sturge's offices on Park Place in Leeds on Saturday, and the second is at the Marriot Hotel on Park Lane in London on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week IIRC. The renders were of Pioneer Reach, appararently the first on the market and guaranteeing rental yields of 7% till 2010 and providing furniture packs etc. Basically trying to drum up as much interest as possible. Did say first completions due 2008, so they'd need to start by the middle of this year at the latest to guarantee that completion. No mention of the Providence Tower, suspect they are holding it back for a prestige release and concentrating on the first of the lowrise schemes to ensure the entire project has commercial viability. If they're having trouble selling the first phase it doesn't bode well for the rest. I'm optimistic that it should sell steadily - needs Whitehall Riverside, Wellington Place and HUV to continue apace to ensure that it doesn't end up standing on its own across the river.

The progress of all these developments will depend entirely on the progress of the local (and general) economy. If the latter goes belly up it will have a big impact on how well all these apartments will sell. I am not saying that is bound to happen, or if it does that it will be soon - but if it does it will not just be confined to Leeds. Even discounting that factor, with all the schemes at present in the pipeline, there could come a time when the market for all the city centre apartments becomes saturated - too many for the local market. I suppose I will be attacked for looking at the downside and being depressingly gloomy, but it doesn't do too much harm to be realistic for once in a while.

:cheers:

I do think the market for apartments will become saturated in Leeds; suprised its not already but I think it's only because of the cost. On the other hand I think that there is quite a strong demand for office space so I think future developers will look to build commercial rather than residential primarily.

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I do think the market for apartments will become saturated in Leeds; suprised its not already but I think it's only because of the cost.
What kind of statement is that??
How is price preventing the market being flooded with apartments?

Surely the cheaper they are the less the market would be flooded with them as they would sell faster/easier?


There has been a real slow down in prices over the last 18mths - in some cases people would be losing upto £30k on 2 bed flats(!!!!!!!!) if they were to sell now. As it is they are just able to rent them out at a cost that keeps them solvent.
The appeal of apartments is still there but the rental market is suffering too. Rental prices are down £50-£100 over the same period for 2 bed flats.

ALL BECAUSE OF VOLUME.

So what's going to happen to this market in 5 years time when there are twice as many apartments in the city than there are now? (10k then, ~5k now!)

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Sorry to hijack this particular thread - feel free to move it to a more neutral position.
I have nothing against this development, and feel it will be one of the better ones in the city if they get the balance between buildings and landscaping right.

That's what I meant; the market will become saturated if prices stay like they are. If prices were lower then people would really flock to the city centre and saturation would be out of the question.

Bring down prices, bring down prices, bring down prices... my friend was been looking for a new place in the city centre to rent and he was remarking that renting places seems to be getting cheaper in the centre, is this so?

What kind of a flat would £150k buy you in Leeds at the moment?

That's what I meant; the market will become saturated if prices stay like they are. If prices were lower then people would really flock to the city centre and saturation would be out of the question.


Not necessarily No. 1. The reason is that they are all only suitable for a limited part of the housing market and are of no use at all to families. Moreover, the facilities needed to service them, e.g.local doctors' surgeries,are still sadly lacking (as pointed out in this evenings YEP)

That's what I meant; the market will become saturated if prices stay like they are. If prices were lower then people would really flock to the city centre and saturation would be out of the question.

My point is that saturation can't occur when sales prices are on the way down. People aren't acheiving the sales prices they want for profitability so more flats are being kept and rented out.
Saturation will occur if investors don't buy in the first place leaving us with a high volume of stock that is not taken up. Supply will have outstripped demand and there will be surplus.

The Leeds apartment market is very close to this state.

Bring down prices, bring down prices, bring down prices... my friend was been looking for a new place in the city centre to rent and he was remarking that renting places seems to be getting cheaper in the centre, is this so?

Rental prices are down in the City compared with last year.

The key is to catch a development at the right time.
eg. West Point prices are comparatively cheap at the moment because there is so much available all at the same time as the development is going through it's completion phases. Investors are dropping prices to secure tenants and avoid void periods right at the start of their investment.

Having 350 apartments all complete at the same time means that owners of flats in other developments are also completing for business.

This means that in approx 6 mths time (the normal initial tenancy period) there will be a lot of people looking to re-let.
Fortunately there are no large numbers of apartments completing in the next 6-9 months so prices will probably remain the same and may even go up slightly.

Now look forward 2 years and think about the market when LaSalle & the Tower complete @ CDock along with Greenbank, BWP, RandomHUV etc - prices will surely come down again when 500-1000 apartments all complete in the same 12 months....
Same for sales too!

What kind of a flat would £150k buy you in Leeds at the moment?

A 1 bed anywhere in the City that is built already (apart from big (750sqft+) on ParkRow)) with change.

A 2 bed anywhere on North Street/Concord Street & Aspect14 with parking. Possibly a 2 bed without parking at City Island.

Not a lot 'off-plan' from the developers though, their prices remain high compared to 're-sales'.

Not necessarily No. 1. The reason is that they are all only suitable for a limited part of the housing market and are of no use at all to families. Moreover, the facilities needed to service them, e.g.local doctors' surgeries,are still sadly lacking (as pointed out in this evenings YEP)

Absolutely Fred!
Leeds centre needs 'family' housing.
But Leeds won't get that until it has the other things it needs;
healthcare and education opportunities, coupled with better public spaces and more grocery shopping facilities. And dare I say it, more parking!

Gives a better idea of how the development relates to the surrounding area.


http://www.greenbankleeds.com/images/theBuildings/theBuildings.jpg

Thanks for getting us back on track diLiv.

A friend told me they've started to clad the marketing suite in the copper cladding, and that it's very bold. Anyone else seen it recently?

A friend told me they've started to clad the marketing suite in the copper cladding, and that it's very bold. Anyone else seen it recently?

Saw this evening, only half of one wall was complete, looked a flat red colour. If it is copper thought there may be a bit of variation on the colour, maybe that will happen once it's had time to weather?

The weathering process is done artificially these days as the air is far cleaner than back in the industrial revolution, and so it takes a very long time to oxidise and turn the green colour.. Outukompu actually (who bought British Steel, Sheffield) have just sold off their copper division. The y had a dedicated arm that mined and then weathered the copper. I doubt that the building is clad in copper - have you seen the spiralling cost of materials like copper, aluminium etc? Cheers China....

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Based on the way things have panned out previously I'd say that the developer has to ge t a % pre-sold so that the banks/finance co will then lend them the money to begin construction.
That could be as much as 40% that they have to secure before any works can begin (including site clearance).

I have heard that they weren't/aren't wanting to do what alot of other developers have, and sell the majority of the 1st phase to investors and consortiums, but would rather sell to owner occupiers first...

In short - I don't know.

I would be surprised if they are being selective over who buys units.

Someone (MikeinLeeds) said earlier that they are due to move onto starting the first phase when the marketing building is complete.

I would be surprised if they are being selective over who buys units.

In all honesty Rob so was i, however it does show a level of integrity and awareness of the future of the development and the Leeds resi market in general IMO. Commendable.
How successful it will be is another story!

We also know that they haven't totally ruled out investors from other comments on the forum, rather they are waiting until Phase1 is sold before releasing Phases 2-5 to the BIG investors AIUI.
It is owner occupiers who are the end user after all.

Refused planning permission decision for car park use, but doesn't state which site - suppose it could be Green Bank, or most likely further along Globe Road under the railway bridge and opposite Tower Works.

Any sign of demolition on the main Green Bank site yet? Is the marketing suite open?

Application 06/01094/FU
Received on 20/02/2006
Description
use of cleared site as car park
Location
Land North Of Globe Road Holbeck Leeds LS11 5QG
Library

Decision Refused Decision Date 28/04/2006
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why didn't I think of that - whoops - thanks for clearing that up. Looks to be the old Madison hosiery site adjacent to Tower Works. Wonder why the council have an issue with a temporary car park bearing in mind Whitehall Road and Globe Roads / GreenBank sites should soon be shut and u/c?

There are already 3 perhaps 4 car parking lots along Globe Road - maybe they don't want any more?

The marketing suite at Globe Road / Green Bank is coming on - I guess would be open in the next month or so as the main structure seems to be virtually finished:

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ziltch action on the main site yet - went past it on the train first thing this morning and it was filling up with cars, so for the moment, slim pickings. Not even demolished the old grey shed yet.

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I think the original schedule was for this to finish by the end of this month, then there will be a start on the main site. Hopefully they're still on schedule.

Looks like they are, as the marketing suite is nearing completion. It seems to be a fairly substantial structure considering it will only be temporary, as the last phase of the scheme is due to go in it's location.

Funny you should mention that, a friend recently rang me and asked what "office development" they were completing on Globe Road. I didnt know exactly what he was talking about until he described the marketing suite for Greenbank perfectly. He could barely believe it was a temporary structure.

I thought that too! But didn't want to say incase it made me sound a bit naive- aren't marketing suites usually portacabins and annexes? It looks like quite a decent building in terms of architecture too!

I suppose it could be there for a few years, as it is to be a long project, that could well make it cheaper to build new than to rent somewhere for a few years.