On the one side there are arenas like Toronto Skydome, it is both outdoor and indoor arena. On the other side arenas like Amsterdam Arena or Millenium Stadium with closable roof but used mostly as outdoor arenas. I wonder if these latter mentioned are eligiable to host basketball or other indoor competitions? I think that even though the roof is closed on Amsterdam Arena the stadium isn´t air conditioned. Does anyone have any info about how they rate arenas when it comes to this?

i know that for example in the Schalke Arena it's no problem to host handball games or even biathlon events. also stock car rallies have taken place there

handball
http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/deutschland/fc_schalke_04/images/multi_25.jpg

biathlon
http://www.winner04.de/fotogalerie/biathlon_2004/25.jpg

The millenium stadium is used for all sorts of events, im sure it would be used for basketball if it was that popular an event and could get 70,000 people interested in the UK. It also has had rally car events there, also having huge concerts like the tsunami concert, U2 and REM recently

Reliant hosts basketball from time to time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Bank One Ballpark hosted basketball before? I believe they have, not sure. Also Reliant, the new Arizona Cardinals Stadium and new Colts Stadium will all host Final Fours while the new Cowboys Park will bid as will the Jets stadium(if it happens). Skydome(Rogers Centre) used to host the Raptors of the NBA I believe. They had that really wild floor. Most retractables in the U.S. are baseball stadiums, which aren't really laid out well to host basketball. Most retractables are fine to host basketball as they actually fully enclose. Not all though. Safeco in Seattle is a true roof in that it just covers the field and audience, but is open air with now wall in the outfield. No basketball for them.

http://asset2.clinicdesign.com.au/mam_asset/ONE%20DAY%20CRICKET%2004%20043_resize.jpg?col=/client_db/CLNL&id=5301020a646c205300000105035e95ab&width=340&height=0&ext=jpg&degrade=true
Telstra Dome, Melbourne, Australia [AFL (football), Cricket, Rugby, Concerts] [55,000aprox]
http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_2245_gallery.JPG
Rod Laver Arena, Melbourne, Australia [ Tennis, Concerts, Motocross] [16,000 aprox]
http://www.world-discovery.de/Bilder/Australian%20Open/ales06.jpg
Vodafone Arena, Melbourne, Australia [Cycling, Tennins, Concerts, basketball] [10,000 guess]

^Don't forget they also had Basketball games there.

The millenium stadium is used for all sorts of events, im sure it would be used for basketball if it was that popular an event and could get 70,000 people interested in the UK. It also has had rally car events there, also having huge concerts like the tsunami concert, U2 and REM recently

If i remember it also had the worlds largest 'adult' school party. Imagine tens of thousands of ladies in one venue all dressed as schoolgirls...

If I am not mistaken.. Rod Laver Arena is the first arena with retractable roof.

Vodafone arena can seats 11,000 people. Not only the roof is retractable, the seats is retractable also. This seating features allows Vodafone to host a full size velodrome inside (cycling track).

They also use RLA for that rave party.. two tribes I think. Vodafone also host the X factor.

Usually, they open those roofs only during Australian Open, because it cost so much to open. And because it needs constant cleaning - there are so many birds living in the roof, when they open it, a lot of bird poo will fall. :rofl: .. i am not joking.

I recall that Rolling Stones had to postpone few tour dates in Montreal a few years ago because snow storm had damaged the roof of the Olympic stadium.

The worlds 1st retractable domed stadium wasn't an NFL football stadium, a baseball stadium or even the Olympic Stadium in Montreal. It was in fact the Civic Arena (now called Mellon Arena) in Pittsburgh. Built originally to hold concerts for Pittsburgh's Civic Light Opera, it eventually became home to the Pittsburgh Penguins of the NHL. It was opened for business in 1961.

Does it still retract?

Nope dont think it still retracts.

Does it still retract?
Nope dont think it still retracts.
Yeah, they wanted to put in a newer, heavier scoreboard like 10-15 years ago, so the structure isn't able to support it with the "wedges" retracted. It's a shame too, the only permanent NHL home that could afford its fans with an outdoor hockey game:

http://www.recentpast.org/types/arenas/mellon/images/mellonarena.jpg

http://www.recentpast.org/types/arenas/mellon/images/opena.jpg

:)

damn that thing is one ugly fuk

a list of retractable rooved stadia.

A list of current stadiums with retractable rooves are:

Amsterdam ArenA, Netherlands

Chase Field

Fukuoka Dome

Gelredome

Millenium Stadium

Miller Park

Minute Maid Park

Reliant Stadium

Rod Laver Arena

Rogers Centre

Safeco Field

Telstra Dome

A list of future stadiums with retractable rooves are:

Arizona Cardinals Stadium

Jets Stadium

Colts Stadium

Dallas Cowboys Stadium

Saints Stadium

Vikings Stadium

Beijing Olympic Stadium

AEL Arena

Fornebu Arena

Le Havre Stadium

Good or bad???

Good or Bad

Hard to see how it could be a bad thing?

good

Hard to see how it could be a bad thing?

you're right, it is not

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/english/data/d0082600.html

next

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/english/data/d0082600.html

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Who cares, Welly

Not another "Welly vs Rexfan2 Thread"!

nah, as i said before, i dispelled of him

Good thread. WHY do we have them; what is this stupid fascination with them; why do most stadias deem them necessary now, even in places where it doesn't rain!!

When closed the sound is horrible and they look ugly and lack oxygen.

As you might of guessed by now, I bleedin hate 'em!

Well, on the other hand, a retractable roof means greater control of the elements that the pitch is exposed to. If there is standing water on the surface, the roof can be closed.

Also a closed roof heightens the atmosphere, as has been seen by various FA Cup finals and other matches at the Millenium Stadium.

Don't you mean "Retractable Roofs"?! :D

a list of retractable rooved stadia.

A list of current stadiums with retractable rooves are:

Amsterdam ArenA, Netherlands

Chase Field

Fukuoka Dome

Gelredome

Millenium Stadium

Miller Park

Minute Maid Park

Reliant Stadium

Rod Laver Arena

Rogers Centre

Safeco Field

Telstra Dome

A list of future stadiums with retractable rooves are:

Arizona Cardinals Stadium

Jets Stadium

Colts Stadium

Dallas Cowboys Stadium

Saints Stadium

Vikings Stadium

Beijing Olympic Stadium

AEL Arena

Fornebu Arena

Le Havre Stadium

Good or bad???

Hey remove AEL Arena from this list.They are finally gonna build a crappy old-fashioned stadium found only in third world countries.

Telstra Dome (or Docklands Stadium as it was when it was proposed) is poorly designed because the whole stadium's orientation means that a shadow is cast over the playing area and the grass isn't of high quailty in those parts.

That said, it comes in handy when a sudden downpour of rain arrives. The roof also stops people in nearby apartment towers from getting a free view of the game.

@Rexfan
You forgot some Stadiums in Germany, which have also retractable roofs:
Veltins Arena (Schalke)
LTU Arena
Commerzbank Arena

First not all clubs (or cities, countries) can afford to build stadiums with retractable roofs

Second not everybody needs it (depending on climate) or wants it. Football, rugby etc. are meant to be outdoor sports anyway. A bit of rain or snow shouldn’t stop a match from being played.

Third stadiums with a roof are not perfect either. Last winter a game in the Amsterdam Arena was cancelled because of the risk that ice would fall of the (curved) roof, injuring visitors or worse. It was a little ironic because other matches in stadiums without roofs did go on.

The Amsterdam Arena also had some problems with the grass (air quality, sunlight, soil) in the past and has/had some other flaws as well. It was (and still is) argued that some other Dutch stadiums actually offer better quality overall despite not having retractable roofs...

The Amsterdam Arena also had some problems with the grass (air quality, sunlight, soil) in the past and has/had some other flaws as well. It was (and still is) argued that some other Dutch stadiums actually offer better quality overall despite not having retractable roofs...

Therefore they also have a retractable pitch at Schalke!;)
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/5126/rasen097pj.jpg

ok, will remove AEL Arena in future

@Rexfan
You forgot some Stadiums in Germany, which have also retractable roofs:
Veltins Arena (Schalke)
LTU Arena
Commerzbank Arena

how could i forget them!!!

any more???

Therefore they also have a retractable pitch at Schalke!;)
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/5126/rasen097pj.jpg

An idea they "borrowed" from the Gelredome in Arnhem. Bunch of German copy-pasters ;)

Melbourne actually has three:

Telstra Dome
Rod Laver Arena
Vodafone Arena

true, melbourne does have 3

They usually don't have good ventilation or wind movement. As said, sound isn't great, and they aren't great as indoor arenas usually. Those without the rolling pitch often have pitch problems. The only ones so far that seem to have gotten it right are the upcoming Colts Stadium, Chase Field, Safeco and Miller Park. The others are too "domey" IMHO.

what about AZ Cardinals Stadium

I like the look of it, but I bet it will have the same ventilation problems that Texas Stadium and Reliant have. Too domey. At least they thought about the field and are using a nice material for the roof. I'm surprised they didn't make the walls at each end retractable.

I find rectratable roofes to be unnecessary for a stadium. Also, they cost a lot of money. Isn't the stadium itself already expensive? I can understand that it might rain durring a football, soccer, or baseball game, but that's only by chance. There is also a chance that I might fall off the bed when I am sleeping, but you don't see placing myself in a strap.

I find rectratable roofes to be unnecessary for a stadium. Also, they cost a lot of money. Isn't the stadium itself already expensive? I can understand that it might rain durring a football, soccer, or baseball game, but that's only by chance. There is also a chance that I might fall off the bed when I am sleeping, but you don't see placing myself in a strap.

In the case of the Cardinals, it is all about comfort from the heat. Sun Devil Stadium was murder to sit out there during a 12 PM start time just to watch a miserable product. Now, we can watch the Cardinals suck in the shade!!

I don't think they're uneccessary. Just depends on what uses are intended.

I hate them. The "elements" are part of sport.

but it depends on which sport though

Once you get used to a roof and not having to freeze your arse off you think to yourself, how the hell did we put up with those decrepit, old open stadiums?

It is like going back to black and white tv compared to hi-def, widescreen plasmas.

Vodafone Arena has a rectractable roof as well. Can't see why they could be a bad thing unless they didn't work.....
Edit: Just read that Vodafone has already been mentioned..........

I recall going to see some soccer and rugby over in London at grounds like Craven Cottage, Stamford Br. and Loftus Rd. To give you an idea it was like going into a timewarp back to when my dad used to take me along to those old suburban footy grounds around Melbourne where he would put a wooden box down for me to stand on and you would be able to smell the stench of tobacco and beer wafting up around the terraces.

Nostalgia for the old days is nice, but reality is another thing.

I recall going to see some soccer and rugby over in London at grounds like Craven Cottage, Stamford Br. and Loftus Rd. To give you an idea it was like going into a timewarp back to when my dad used to take me along to those old suburban footy grounds around Melbourne where he would put a wooden box down for me to stand on and you would be able to smell the stench of tobacco and beer wafting up around the terraces.

Nostalgia for the old days is nice, but reality is another thing.

nothing wrong with Loftus Rd

Not much right with it either! It is okay for a 3rd division club like QPR.

Not much right with it either! It is okay for a 3rd division club like QPR.

the 3rd Division????????
well Bob,i'm sure you are well qualified to make a remark that that

(we don't have a 3rd Division anymore)

Unless you live in a climate like Puerto Vallarta, retractable roofs are the only
way to go. The Roger's Centre here in Toronto has done the trick wonderfully
well, and it only takes about 20 minutes to open or close it. Brilliant!

any more???
PARKEN, Copenhagen...

I recall going to see some soccer and rugby over in London at grounds like Craven Cottage, Stamford Br. and Loftus Rd. To give you an idea it was like going into a timewarp back to when my dad used to take me along to those old suburban footy grounds around Melbourne where he would put a wooden box down for me to stand on and you would be able to smell the stench of tobacco and beer wafting up around the terraces.

Nostalgia for the old days is nice, but reality is another thing.

A picture of one of the stadiums that reminds BobDaBuilder of the type of old suburban footy grounds found in Melbourne.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/carlspannard/blick_01.jpg

Theres nothing better than sitting outdoors on a nice day and watching football (any of its variations) or baseball, however in areas with extreme climate conditions, its nice to have the retractable option so that you can enjoy the outdoors when its nice, but not have to worry about the cancellation of the event. Also indoor venues have more options with the types of events they can host. I hate domes, I prefer outdoor stadiums, but retractables offer the best of both worlds.

very true, Brent H.

PARKEN, Copenhagen...

Parken has a retractable roof??? it was brilliant before i heard that, but now its even better!!!

For football and rugby stadiums they are unnecesary, per se. However, when a rugby/football ground is used for other activities, like the multi use Millenium Stadium then retractable roofs are great innovations.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:jetVzH57cNzVgM:http://www.stereoboard.com/

Noise + Confusion '05 in Cardiff. Winter festival, great event, not possible wothout a stadium with a roof.

but it depends on which sport though

Nothing can beat an American football match in the snow, in early January!

Retractable roof stadiums can't have this...


http://proshopcache.patriots.com/images/ProductImg/SnowBowl3_Small.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/_photos/2002-01-19-inside-patriots.jpg

http://orangeride.com/archives/2002/nfl_playoffs/snowyfield.jpg

http://orangeride.com/archives/2002/nfl_playoffs/crowd.jpg

http://treywhitaker.blogspot.com/20031210%20-%20Patriots%20-%204.jpg

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2002/playoffs/news/2002/01/19/raiders_patriots_ap/lg_edwards_ap-01.jpg

http://www.irishlegends.com/irish/products/images/snowbowl.jpg

^ Awesome game.

And unless it's a baseball stadium, I think roofs aren't needed.

Playing football in the snow? thats stupid.

Originally, wasn't Wembley to have a partially retractable roof, or is this still in fact the case?

Originally, wasn't Wembley to have a partially retractable roof, or is this still in fact the case?


Wembley still has the partially retractable roof.But it is just to allow sunlight onto the pitch,and the design also means that none of the pitch is ever in shadow.I go past Wembley into work everyday on the Metropolitan Line,and this part of the roof is easy to see

wembley's roof retracts only a little bit...hoo har..i dont see what the big fuss is...i mean i love the stadium a whole lot..but to make a big fuss about a little portion of the stadium that retracts...its almost as if thats the only reason the arch is there.

Nothing can beat an American football match in the snow, in early January!

Retractable roof stadiums can't have this...



Wonderful for gridiron, horrible for soccer... :)

^ Awesome game.

And unless it's a baseball stadium, I think roofs aren't needed.

Snow isnt actually that unpleasent to sit through though, rain is alot worse.

Wonderful for gridiron, horrible for soccer... :)

Yeah for most cases, but could you imagine Old Trafford with a fucking dome on top of it? No more pouring Manchester rain every other match, it just wouldn't be the same!

cricket can't be played in rain

cricket can't be played in rain

Your MSN link doesn't work!

http://groups.msn.com/stadiumsoftheworld/homepage

try that

Yes, that's better. I will now have a look!

I depends for what sport. American football should always be played outdoors...for it can be played in any condition. Domes in cold weather is for pansies.

Baseball...domes may be nessessary. Baseball cannot be played in heavy rain--which is frequent in the spring and summer.

Here is Milwaukees stadium--Miller Park.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6041/0620918kn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://orangeride.com/archives/2002/nfl_playoffs/crowd.jpg


Yeah...that looks great fun.....if you are stupid!!

http://orangeride.com/archives/2002/nfl_playoffs/crowd.jpg


Yeah...that looks great fun.....if you are stupid!!

Keep up the immature insults and you'll get banned!

playing in the snow is a lot of fun at times

Retractable roof stadiums can't have this...


http://proshopcache.patriots.com/images/ProductImg/SnowBowl3_Small.jpg




Yes they can. Its just a matter of, uh, not closing the roof.

Yes they can. Its just a matter of, uh, not closing the roof.

Yeah but, uh, would the teams ever allow their season ticket holders to (gasp) get wet or god forbid, snowed on! No.

Yeah...that looks great fun.....if you are stupid!!

Its not so bad, if you bundle up its not very cold and snow is no big deal, about 10 years ago I attended an NFL playoff game in january where it snowed, it was kinda cool. Rain stinks, but snow isnt so bad as long as youre prepared.

Parken has a retractable roof??? it was brilliant before i heard that, but now its even better!!!
well, its not used that often, since it block from some of the audience. So it is only used in games with a garanteed low audience attendence...It was added in 2000 and will be there also after the renovation of Parken starting in November...

Good thing, dont want to close them, then dont, want to close them, then do. If the oppoistion kicker (say for rugby) sucks on a windy day, then keep the damn thing open to in crease chances of victory.

Cold wet windy day, close the bugger and stay warm. Cricket match threatened with abandonement, no cause we can close the roof.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: want to have an indoor arena-style boxing titale fight or concert or wrestling night, or whatever you can think of: then close the roof, rig up the big room, dim the lights and you got yourself a big indoor arena to have a big title-night fight or wrestlmania XXXXXVII or concert hoodoo or whatever, have a night time atmosphere all day long.

I love my retractable roofs, thank god my city has 3.


Yeah but, uh, would the teams ever allow their season ticket holders to (gasp) get wet or god forbid, snowed on! No.
If they are responsible employers they shouldn't allow their players to play on ice frozen surfaces.

very true. it means that no matter what, a match can proceed

do stadiums dat gots retractable roofs gots or need undersoil heating?????????? slap mah fro!

if anything, they need less undersoil heating as the heat is kept in the stadium

if anything, they need less undersoil heating as the heat is kept in the stadium

thank ya rexfan. what ah be saying iz do stadiums wiff retractable roofs usually gots undersoil heating or don' dey need it? fo' example do da millennium stadium gots undersoil heating?????? do anyone know da answer ta dis here??? peep this shit thanx

yes, millenium stadium does have underground heating. it is more necessary for a stadium that doesn't get much heat naturally needs it, but AZ Cardinals Stadium doesn't because it is heated enough already.

yes, millenium stadium does have underground heating. it is more necessary for a stadium that doesn't get much heat naturally needs it, but AZ Cardinals Stadium doesn't because it is heated enough already.

w0rrrrd!!!! :okay:

which one of them is your favourite???

mine would be the AZ Cardinals Stadium or the Amsterdam ArenA

mine would be the AZ Cardinals Stadium or the Amsterdam ArenA

amsterdam iz da bomb fo' me an' its nice fo' uh nice special cake afta da game if ya catch muh :clown:

which one of them is your favourite???

Telstra Dome. Cause its the home of the Mighty Bombers, its in my city, and it is THE most versatile stadium in the world.


But once the new cardinals stadium progresses past the artist impressions stage then i might well have to reconsider that.

[QUOTE=tocino]Nothing can beat an American football match in the snow, in early January!

Retractable roof stadiums can't have this...


God, has anyone ever sat in a stadium when it is snowing? It is frickin'
freezing and you have to be sloshed just to make it through. Give me
retractable roof any day, thank you very much!

^^ Amen to that ^^

I remember watching my team play at Telstra Dome a few years back on a day that rained and kept on raining all day. I parked undercover which is situated underneath the playing surface at TD, scanned my ticket and enjoyed a quality game that wasn't ruined by a wet/muddy surface. In fact the only time I got wet was when left my house to get into my car and again when I returned home again.

Is it possible to open and close a roof DURING a match?

x*

Is it possible to open and close a roof DURING a match?

x*

Yes. But depending on the rules that govern the sport. Some may have rules which prohibit the changing of the roof.

After all if one team has to kick into the sun in the first quarter and then the roof is closed so the other team doesn't have to then it is unfair.

Telstra Dome. Cause its the home of the Mighty Bombers, its in my city, and it is THE most versatile stadium in the world.


But once the new cardinals stadium progresses past the artist impressions stage then i might well have to reconsider that.

See the Bombers fly up!!!!!

YEAH, I AM A BIG BOMBERS FAN!!!!

ANYONE ELSE

ANYONE ELSE

YEp!, gotta love the bombers.

Let's hope this weekend we can kick the Bulldogs back down the ladder where they belong.

yeah, at least you dont tell me to stfu

Yes. But depending on the rules that govern the sport. Some may have rules which prohibit the changing of the roof.

After all if one team has to kick into the sun in the first quarter and then the roof is closed so the other team doesn't have to then it is unfair.

But that's only because the people who designed the Telstra Dome were stupid enough to place the goals facing the sun. Although I guess it would look a bit weird having the ends facing the harbour on one side and the city on the other. It looks a bit more in place since it's parallel with the train lines.


I remember them closing the roof during an cricket day-nighter since it started to cast a shadow as the sun set and the difference between the naturally lit and artificially lit parts of the ground was confusing the players.

yeah, in aussie rules it's prohibited

don't know about cricket

In some places retractable roofs are a necessary evil.

In some places retractable roofs are a necessary evil.

Meaning?

Meaning?


Overall stadiums are better withouta roof period but in some places where the whether gets extremely hot or extremely cold it is necessary to have a roof but having a retractable roof is better than having a roof that doesn't retract. So if you absolutely have to have one it might as well be retractable.

Overall stadiums are better withouta roof period but in some places where the whether gets extremely hot or extremely cold it is necessary to have a roof but having a retractable roof is better than having a roof that doesn't retract. So if you absolutely have to have one it might as well be retractable.


Better with no roof?

I just cant see how that is the case at all.

yeah, in aussie rules it's prohibited

don't know about cricket


Premiership games are also not allowed to be played under closed roofs, and in open air only.

^^^^^^^^^

If there is anywhere in the world that needs retractable rooves, England would be the place.

Better with no roof?

I just cant see how that is the case at all.


Alot of it has to do with the culture of the sport being played.

Premiership games are also not allowed to be played under closed roofs, and in open air only.

Do you mean English FA premiership games.

Cause AFL premiership games are often played under a closed roof.

^^yes I think she meant English Prem, I dont think anyone outside aus givs a dam about AFL. Why is it that the Eng Prem games cant be played under closed roofs?

Telstra Dome (or Docklands Stadium as it was when it was proposed) is poorly designed because the whole stadium's orientation means that a shadow is cast over the playing area and the grass isn't of high quailty in those parts.

That said, it comes in handy when a sudden downpour of rain arrives. The roof also stops people in nearby apartment towers from getting a free view of the game.
Melbourne has three retractable roof Stadia Telstra 56,600, Rod laver Arena 16,000 and Vodaphone Arena 10,000 and all are neede with Melbournes notoriously fickle weather.

^^yes I think she meant English Prem, I dont think anyone outside aus givs a dam about AFL. Why is it that the Eng Prem games cant be played under closed roofs?

its meant to be an outdoor sport

^^^^^^^^^

If there is anywhere in the world that needs retractable rooves, England would be the place.

London has had less rainfall then Rome(italy), Dallas(Usa), Paris(france) in the last two years. :)

its meant to be an outdoor sport
Say's who???

The fact that retractable rooves are basically a recent inception means that they're not widely accepted by the traditionalist but that mentality is changing as these stadiums become more the norm. The same argument raged in Melbourne around 2000 with Telstra Dome and still does to some degree, but public opinion has almost done an about face since then.

What's wrong with closing the roof during inclement weather if it means the game is played in the best conditions?

^^ good footballers are able to play in most conditions, its not just for dry conditions. And if one club has a retractable roof then it would be unfair on the other teams.

^^ good footballers are able to play in most conditions, its not just for dry conditions.

Yes, but that doesn't mean the public should witness a more sloppy game in the wet, or sit have to sit in the wet. And like I said, A closeable roof ads so much versatility to the venue. Not to mention sports like cricket and baseball cannot be played in the wet.

A closed roof also provides a much better atmosphere than an open one. 55,000 people watching Australia v Ireland at RWC'03 under the roof was unforgettable, the noise is amplified, it really is amazing.

And if one club has a retractable roof then it would be unfair on the other teams.

How so? when they play a match both teams play in the same conditions, whether that be wet or dry they are both on the same pitch.

^^ but the home side has an advantage of playing in similar conditions of having a closed roof each home match, and that would be unfair on those that don't have a roof

yeh how did those guy over 100 years ago know that we were gonna build stadiums with roof's that open & close? if you said that to them, they think you gone mad & would have shot you dead!

^^ but the home side has an advantage of playing in similar conditions of having a closed roof each home match, and that would be unfair on those that don't have a roof

No, because most days are not rain so other team play the same.

And if anything, if the team trains indoors (closed) then they will be at a disadvantage because they are not used to rain or wind. But since its a retractable roof they can just train outdoors like anybody else. Your skills dont improve on match days, only your psychy, and that is not dependent on weather.

Australian footy teams that play home games at the Dome train on thier own outdoor grounds. They learn just like everybody else.

Roofs give no unfair advantage to roofed teams.

it's true, a roofed stadium is really no different to a stadium with fine weather

This is the retractable roofs thread so please feel free to post pictures of retractable roofs on stadiums or arenas. I was wondering how many there are in the world anyway.

Milleniums Stadium

http://www.lfc-1.com/general/millstad.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/italian_rugby/images/millstad.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c2/300px-Millenium_stadium4.jpg


http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/architecture/stadium_design/pictures/amsterdam_arena/amsterdam_arena1.jpg

http://www.soccer-stadiums.com/images/amsterdam-arena3.jpg

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theres already a thread on this

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=334987

I luv Retractable roofs stadiums :)

Arizona cardinals new stadium
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^^ Nice stadium, bad location. It is in the middle of nowhere.

What was the first? Was it the SkyDome or something else?

http://www.ballparkwatch.com/images/toronto/IMGP2475.jpg

Technically, Olympic Stadium in Montreal was the first. But not the first working.

I think retractable roofs and fixed domes on stadiums are essential because they allow stadiums to host events that are usually held in indoor arenas.

I bet it can be damn loud under those roofs!

I think retractable roofs and fixed domes on stadiums are essential because they allow stadiums to host events that are usually held in indoor arenas.
Which in many cases don't pay off financially.
It really depends on the local circumstances and demands. Retractable roofs are very expensive in comparison to classic roofs which remain open over the pitch, so those exctra cost need to be refinanced in order for a retractable roof to make any economical sense. And exactly that is often a rather difficult challenge, especially when soccer is the first and foremost important reason and mainuse for a stadium. And when the standards and demands for these soccerstadia are very high, like being as close as possible to the pitch etc. for example, which all do reduce the multipurpose usability even further.

It all basically depends on how requently those stadia are used for these secondary events and purposes. And how much money can be earned with those.

I'll go with good. There are certain places where a roof is needed only part of the season. We wouldn't want to deprive these fans of some outdoor games.

yeah, in aussie rules it's prohibited

don't know about cricket

It is prohibited during play bit it's OK during half time.

OITA BIG EYE STADIUM
Oita, Japan

http://www.takenaka.co.jp/takenaka_e/stadiums_e/oita/images/o_1.jpg
http://www.takenaka.co.jp/takenaka_e/majorworks_e/topics/2001/win/gifs/ooita3.jpg
http://www.fussballtempel.net/afc/JPN/Oita2.jpg
http://www.yata-garasu.jp/photo/wallpaper/bigeye_01.jpg

This stadium also has retractable seat :cheers:

European Stadiums with retractable roofs



Name: Gelredome
Location: Arnhem, The Netherlands
Tenant: S.B.V. Vitesse
Capacity: 26,600
Opened: 1998
Retractable roof
Mobile pitch (First Stadium with a mobile pitch in the world)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/3299207354_d994770fd7_o.jpg

Name: Amsterdam ArenA
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Tenant: A.F.C. Ajax
Capacity: 51,628
Opened: 1996
Retractable roof

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3334/3299207814_e2017f9817_b.jpg

Name: Veltins Arena
Location: Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Tenant: F.C. Schalke 04
Capacity: 53,951
Opened: 2001
Retractable roof
Mobile pitch

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3371/3298379551_266c991d30_o.jpg

Name: Commerzbank Arena
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Tenant: Eintracht Frankfurt e.V.
Capacity: 48,500
Opened: 1925 (latest renovation 2005)
Retractable membrane

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/3298379709_6b6bce954b_o.jpg

Name: LTU Arena
Location: Düsseldorf, Germany
Tenant: Fortuna T.S.V.
Capacity: 51,500
Opened: 2005
Retractable roof

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3482/3298379617_6b4ed0103e_o.jpg

Name: Millennium Stadium
Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK
Tenant: None (National Stadium)
Capacity: 74,499
Opened: 1999
Retractable roof

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3299207258_120284385c_o.jpg

Name: Wembley National Stadium
Location: London, England, UK
Tenant: None (National Football Stadium)
Capacity: 90,000
Opened: 2007
Part retractable roof

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/3298379363_e1ea11d7d3_o.jpg

Name: Parken
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Tenant: F.C. København
Capacity: 38,000
Opened: 1992 (Latest renovation in progress)
Retractable roof

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3298379797_d5edd6c23a_o.jpg

Name: "Grand Stade"
Location: Lille, France
Tenant: Lille Olympique S.C.
Capacity: 50,186
Opened: 2012 (Building in progress)
retractable roof
mobile half pitch (unique in the world, there is an indoor arena under the pitch)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3536/090518034731115395.jpg

Name: Arena 92
Location: Paris, France
Tenant: Racing-Metro, formerly Racing Club de France (Rugby)
Capacity: 32,000
Opened: 2013
Retractable roof

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6020/image1oxy.jpg

Name: Stade Marcel Picot
Location: Nancy, France
Tenant: AS Nancy Lorraine
Capacity: 35,000
Opened: 2012
Retractable roof

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7016/picot20165.jpg

Name: Türk Telekom Arena
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Tenant: Galatasaray S.K.
Capacity: 52,647
Opened: 2010 (Building in progress)
Retractable roof

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3299207924_fbe0207363_o.jpg

Name: Stadion Narodowy
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Tenant: None (National Stadium)
Capacity: 55,000
Opened: 2011 (Building in progress)
Retractable membrane

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/3299207974_489c15db96_o.jpg

Name: Stadionul Naţional
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Tenant: None (National Stadium)
Capacity: 55,200
Opened: 2010/2011 (Building in progress)
Retractable membrane

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3298380249_94a34383dd_o.jpg

Name: Gazprom Arena
Location: Saint Petersburg, Russia
Tenant: F.C. Zenit
Capacity: 62,167
Opened: 2011 (Building in progress)
Retractable roof
Mobile pitch

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3298408629_d631d83758_o.jpg

Name: Swedbank Arena
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Tenant: None (National Stadium)
Capacity: 50,000
Opened: 2012 (Building in progress)
Retractable roof

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3298430901_d40bf2f801_o.jpg

Warsaw final version of retractable roof
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/255/stadionnarodowy18.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6209/stadionnarodowy17.jpg

Lille soon join this family :)

At first I couldn't believe the roof at Parken is really retractable. It seems impossible looking at aerials. But since it hosted the Eurovision Song Contest and the retractable roof is mentioned on the official website... I'm looking for pics of it and illustrating how it works.

EDIT: I guess it is hidden in the roof of the stand that they are currently rebuilding. This is a picture with the roof closed (2000 Euro Song Contest):
http://www.dessosports.com/typo3temp/GB/e1df115c02.jpg?file=uploads%2Fpics%2FParken_Stadium_tijdens_het_Songfestival_2000_02.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20style%3D%22margin%3A0%3B%20background%3A%23fff%3B%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B%22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=950b769d09cbb5c7eec2301672294a77

About Oita Big Eye: that doesn't look like retractable seating, but temporary stands that were installed for the 2002 World Cup.

I haven't seen Kobe Wing Stadium in this thread yet. The temporary parts of both goal stands where removed after the 2002 FIFA World Cup and a retractable roof was added:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Inside_View_of_Kobe_Wing_Stadium.jpg/800px-Inside_View_of_Kobe_Wing_Stadium.jpg

http://en.structurae.de/files/photos/2521/image275.jpg

An image with the roof closed: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Kobe_Wing_Stadium.jpg

Before:
http://www.wm.stefanschweig.com/stadien2002/kobe.jpg

The seats in Oita are part of the stadium, they're used when Oita Trinita has a big match.

The seats in Oita are part of the stadium, they're used when Oita Trinita has a big match.Where do they go with the stadium in athletics configuration?

Where do they go with the stadium in athletics configuration?

aethletic??? where is it?

aethletic??? where is it?http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=39524616&postcount=134

4th picture.

You're actually right, they go into a holding bay.

I'm not tlaking about oita! I was talking about kobe

I'm not tlaking about oita! I was talking about kobeI was not talking about Kobe, I was talking about Oita ;)

At first I couldn't believe the roof at Parken is really retractable. It seems impossible looking at aerials.

Yes it is possible to see it :

Before they add it :

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8343/fil9272copie.jpg


With the new roof (look at the rail system on each side) :

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6434/4261copie.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5267/27391888.jpg

If you still have a doubt :) :

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5395/parkenk.jpg


During the last renovation :

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3748/vbg.jpg

Thanks parcdesprinces, those are the pics I was looking for. Judging from the first pics I found googling, I couldn't figure it out, but as I posted before, the official website already got me convinced.

very strange stadium...

first Seats are far above pitch

No, they added temporary seats in football mode :

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9241/fil14053copie.jpg

Anyway this stand was demolished...

New one (with retractable tiers, for concerts and other events, I guess) :

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4161/tribuneindenfor1parken.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1623/billede0042.jpg

New one (with retractable tiers, for concerts and other events, I guess) :

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1623/billede0042.jpg

Thats the steepest stand in the world 90 degrees :nuts:

Im not stupid, ofcourse i know thats removable.

Anyway, were is the home supporters situated at, which stand??

uh! impressing!

The supporters are located on the lower C stand (the last picture is taken from that stand) the ultras are located opposide the new stand on the lower B stand just next to the kids club!!!!!!

for the people that find retractable roofs unnecessary and too costly, it really all comes down to money. Yes I agree sports should be played in the elements.. but in most places that invest in retractable roofs, at least here in north America. there is no snow or there is just extreme rain or heat. there are a few exceptions like the new stadium for the colts in Indianapolis or the new cowboys stadium. those don't need retractable roofs. they are just doing it to increase there venue uses.

many of these retractable roofed stadiums double as convention space areas in some cities. it makes scence.. especially for football. a NFL stadium only gets used at most 10-15 days out of the year. the rest of the the time if you have a badly designed outdoor stadium (cleveland browns stadium) your not going to be getting many other events

The future of retractable roof stadiums lean more towards the new Cardinals stadium in Glendale or the commerzbank arena in Germany. these stadium either have a outside grown pitch that is brought in... while the stadium remains a climate controlled environment. and with the commerzbank you get a open air/environemnt stadium that is protected from the elements

...
The future of retractable roof stadiums lean more towards the new Cardinals stadium in Glendale or the commerzbank arena in Germany. these stadium either have a outside grown pitch that is brought in... while the stadium remains a climate controlled environment. and with the commerzbank you get a open air/environemnt stadium that is protected from the elements
The roof of the Comerzbank Arena is not allowed to be closed in the winter time at all, simply because the roof can't withstand the loads of heavy snow.
So the "main beneficial" effect of this retractable roof in the Commerzbank Arena is mostly that it's being closed in the summer when playing in the sunlight to provide a nicer TV picture, because the "spidernet" holding the videocube produces odd and distracting shadows on the pitch. So all in all, I personally believe the roof from the Commerzbank Arena is a neary perfect example of how a retractable roof should not be built and how nearly useless an expensive retractable roof in comparison to a standard roof can be.

for the people that find retractable roofs unnecessary and too costly, it really all comes down to money. Yes I agree sports should be played in the elements.. but in most places that invest in retractable roofs, at least here in north America. there is no snow or there is just extreme rain or heat. there are a few exceptions like the new stadium for the colts in Indianapolis or the new cowboys stadium. those don't need retractable roofs. they are just doing it to increase there venue uses.

many of these retractable roofed stadiums double as convention space areas in some cities. it makes scence.. especially for football. a NFL stadium only gets used at most 10-15 days out of the year. the rest of the the time if you have a badly designed outdoor stadium (cleveland browns stadium) your not going to be getting many other events

The future of retractable roof stadiums lean more towards the new Cardinals stadium in Glendale or the commerzbank arena in Germany. these stadium either have a outside grown pitch that is brought in... while the stadium remains a climate controlled environment. and with the commerzbank you get a open air/environemnt stadium that is protected from the elements

I think the future leans more towards what the Texans and Cowboys are doing with removeable fields just from a cost standpoint as costs are starting to spiral out of control. $2 billion + for the Marlins ballpark? I think you're more likely to see tougher grades of sod, even shorter breeds that can grow in much less light. Even greenhouse like microclimates might be created on non-event days with tents that cover the field with artificial light and moisture. Don't know why that one hasn't been done.

The thing I find funny about UofPhoenix stadium is that even with the field sliding in and out, the field looked like grass grown in Texas during the summer. like it was still too hot outside most of the season, hehe. We've outsmarted ourselves.

$2 billion + for the Marlins ballpark?

:ohno:
The cost to build the ballpark is $515 mil the cost of paying of the bonds over 40 + years is $2 bil. +. I find it interesting that for the other ballparks people use construction cost but for the marlins they are using the cost of financing. All parks where build using debt that has to be payed off. if you don't understand then try to calculate how much its going to cost you to pay $515000 mortgage over 40yr for a house. All new arenas and stadiums that have been build in the last 10 yrs will have a cost of financing in that neighborhood or a lot higher. (as in NY/NJ parks and stadiums)

definitely good!:okay:

:ohno:
The cost to build the ballpark is $515 mil the cost of paying of the bonds over 40 + years is $2 bil. +. [B]I find it interesting that for the other ballparks people use construction cost but for the marlins they are using the cost of financing.[B] All parks where build using debt that has to be payed off. if you don't understand then try to calculate how much its going to cost you to pay $515000 mortgage over 40yr for a house. All new arenas and stadiums that have been build in the last 10 yrs will have a cost of financing in that neighborhood or a lot higher. (as in NY/NJ parks and stadiums)

I'm well aware of how stadium cost is calculated. The Marlins put that number out there, not me. And the bond cost is not always that high. Wasn't even close to that for the Cowboys.

I'm well aware of how stadium cost is calculated. The Marlins put that number out there, not me. And the bond cost is not always that high. Wasn't even close to that for the Cowboys.

Actually its the Miami herald that put out that number. Your right that the bonds for that cowboys where not that high they have $200 mil of debt to finance. But its also hard to compare the NFL which has a hard cap on salaries so that even teams( like cowboys) that have revenue income of small countries make unreal profits each year regardless of economic situation.

the third proposal with retractable roof in France :

Lille, Paris (Racing) and now Nancy :banana: (+ Roland Garros new center court and actual center court)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6432/picot20164.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7016/picot20165.jpg

http://www.tyskfotboll.se/bundesligan/arenor/stadionbilder/waldstadion_2005.jpg


http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/nakayama0131/imgs/9/4/94d442ec.jpg


if you want to see more Stadium pictures , Please visit below.


Retractable & Closable Roofs Stadiums (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/5cV6/16)

Future Dome & Arena (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/5cV6/14)

Present Dome & Arena (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/5cV6/11)


http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1088/stade3.jpg

1. Parken Stadium
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Capacity: 38,065
Opened: 1992 (renovated in 2009)

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/denmark/copenhagen_parken1.jpg

2. Wembley Stadium
Location: London, England
Capacity: 90,000
Opened: 2007

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/london/london_wembley1.jpg

3. Grand Stade Lille Métropole
Location: Villeneuve-d'Ascq, France
Capacity: 50,186
Opened: 2012

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/france/nord_pas_de_calais/lille_grand_stade1.jpg

4. Commerzbank-Arena
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Capacity: 51,500
Opened: 2005

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/hessen/frankfurt_waldstadion1.jpg

5. Esprit Arena
Location: Düsseldorf, Germany
Capacity: 54,600
Opened: 2004

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/nordrhein_westfalen/dusseldorf_ltu1.jpg

6. Veltins-Arena
Location: Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Capacity: 54,142
Opened: 2001

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/nordrhein_westfalen/gelsenkirchen_schalke1.jpg

7. Astana Arena
Location: Astana, Kazakhstan
Capacity: 30,000
Opened: 2009

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/asia/kazakhstan/astana_arena1.jpg

8. Asterdam Arena
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Capacity: 53,052
Opened: 1996

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/netherlands/amsterdam_arena1.jpg

9. GelreDome
Location: Arnhem, Netherlands
Capacity: 25,000
Opened: 1998

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/netherlands/arnhem_gelredome1.jpg

10. Stadion Narodowy
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Capacity: 56,070
Opened: 2012

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/poland/mazowieckie/warszawa_narodowy1.jpg

11. Arena Națională
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Capacity: 55,600
Opened: 2011

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/romania/bucharest_national1.jpg

12. Friends Arena
Location: Solna, Sweden
Capacity: 51,100
Opened: 2012

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/sweden/solna_friends1.jpg

13. Millennium Stadium
Location: Cardiff, Wales
Capacity: 74,500
Opened: 1999

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/wales/cardiff_millennium1.jpg

It looks like the retraceable roof at TTA will be canceled.
There are rumours that the club wants to invest the money into more luxury things (lounges etc)

Arena Națională in Bucharest, Romania can look like this:

http://www9.gsp.ro//usr/thumbs/thumb_540_x_360/2012/04/13/474204-alx6200.jpg

http://www9.gsp.ro//usr/thumbs/thumb_540_x_333/2012/05/16/485471-national-arena.jpg

or like this:

http://s13.postimage.org/a0ft9cyqf/485899_alx_3953.jpg

http://mopupduty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Marlins-Park.jpg

http://fishatbat.com/wp-content/images/Marlins-Park-from-Goodyear-Blimp-@FSMarlins-620x829.jpg

http://www.expo-china.com/pages/hall/200912/1177/Images/1177_20091217174520.gif

http://www.yxjs.cc/project/gj01.jpg

http://www.dicolorled.com/led/files/News/150bawang_led.jpg

http://www.ntcjdag.com/Edit/uploadfile/2011062438243381.jpg

http://www.wscct.com/ycjy/Files/南通体育会展中心体育场.jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2010/7/28/-4f1a-5c55-4e2d-5fc301.jpg

http://www.ntaz.com/imageRepository/323f358b-4a46-406f-9976-363b262aa121.jpg

http://www.jhgcw.cn/upfile/zt/newswx/3662117_192202415110_2.jpg

http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2010/7/28/-4f1a-5c55-4e2d-5fc3.jpg

http://www.arneym.nl/images/37cagelredomegacv9w0619.jpg

http://www.stades-spectateurs.com/images/pays-bas/arnhem/vitesse6.jpg

http://www.petaannephotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Perth-arena3.jpg

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/11/28/1226525/735296-perth-arena.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227704_461582620567634_836542085_n.jpg

^^ Looks Fantastic in tennis mode!!!!! How often do they use it for tennis?

^^ Once a year for the Hopman Cup which is a piss ant warm up tournament for the Australian Open. The roof was so unnecessary and expensive considering it's only reason for being was to mimic AusOpen conditions as much as possible so Perth could lure decent players at the expense of Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide's warm up tournaments (we will find out how that turns out in future). The Government wanted it, not the designers as it is detrimental to the acoustics. Concerts will be paying the bills for this Arena far more than Tennis or Basketball (granted the Wildcats are getting good crowds).

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp303/bongoanders/parken-1_zps50c3a99d.jpg

Miller Park - Milwaukee, Wisconsin

http://mlblogsbrewers.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/stadium08rs0503.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2008/0509/MIL_74391976_580.jpg

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles28374.jpg

http://www.ballparkprints.com/data/photos/461_1miller_park_1200.jpg

Arup's winning design for the future UAE national stadium in Abu Dhabi:

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/9571/e0e281cbce00c11624c6325.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/7143/0a91a91f1f6423c839ab8a9.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/4645/88a06b1fe78ae089c594c76.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img203/7942/684f53456d2529415a029b7.jpg

4. Commerzbank-Arena
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Capacity: 51,500
Opened: 2005

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/hessen/frankfurt_waldstadion1.jpg

10. Stadion Narodowy
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Capacity: 56,070
Opened: 2012

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/poland/mazowieckie/warszawa_narodowy1.jpg

11. Arena Națională
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Capacity: 55,600
Opened: 2011

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/romania/bucharest_national1.jpg

Technically, those three don't actually have retractable roofs - the roofs themselves are fixed. If you stretch the definition of roof to include the material that can fill the hole, mybe "unfurlable roof" or "spreadable roof"? :lol:

Technically, those three don't actually have retractable roofs - the roofs themselves are fixed. If you stretch the definition of roof to include the material that can fill the hole, mybe "unfurlable roof" or "spreadable roof"? :lol:

Well the part that does move retracts, doesn't it?:lol:

Well the part that does move retracts, doesn't it?:lol:

Not in the conventional sense. To retract means to draw or pull back. Not scrunch into a little ball. :)

Not in the conventional sense. To retract means to draw or pull back. Not scrunch into a little ball. :)

http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/what.png

Arup's winning design for the future UAE national stadium in Abu Dhabi:

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/9571/e0e281cbce00c11624c6325.jpg



:master: That looks great! So that is the final design?

^^ ...and how large that stadium by capacity?

Not in the conventional sense. To retract means to draw or pull back. Not scrunch into a little ball. :)

I think you need a new dictionary mate:nuts:

^^ ...and how large that stadium by capacity?

should be around 50,000 and 65,000 seater