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edsg25 July 28th, 2005, 12:46 PM There is a discussion on the unique city thread that got into the cities that had consolidated boundaries with their counties.
That got me thinking.
Are there any major US cities located in more than one county?
Of course NYC fits the fill (5 boroughs are each their own county). But elsewhere? Here in Chicago, a part of O'Hare crosses into DuPage County, but it is virtually inconsequential; Chicago is virtually entirely in Cook Co. We do have suburbs that cross county lines. One northwest of the city (Barrington Hills) I believe has parts in four counties while the major west suburban city of Aurora crosses into DuPage County (far more extensively than Chicago does)
Can you think of any place else where cities cross county lines?
NorthStar77 July 28th, 2005, 01:38 PM Oslo, wich is a city and county with the same boundaries, extends its continously built up area beyond its border and into the counties of Akershus and Buskerud. The latter is outside the official metro even!
Evangelion July 28th, 2005, 03:55 PM Wash DC. spreads over into Montgomery/fairfax/prince georges counties
hudkina July 28th, 2005, 03:58 PM Wash DC. spreads over into Montgomery/fairfax/prince georges counties
He's talking about municipal boundaries, not built environment. The city of Washington is completely inside the District of Columbia.
SE9 July 28th, 2005, 04:09 PM The majority of London is in Greater London (its own "county")
Growth of London has seen many of its suburbs cross into the surrounding counties of Kent, Surrey etc.
An example of this is Bromley, Kent and Croydon Surrey.
These places do not have the London postcodes of SE, SW, NW, N,E, W, EC and WC. They use other postcodes like CR1 for Croydon, BR1 for Bromley and DA1 for Dartford.
gruber July 28th, 2005, 04:52 PM The Milano Metropolitan Area is composed by more than 300 Municipalities!
12 Provinces, 4 Regions and 2 Countries.
Evangelion July 28th, 2005, 05:03 PM He's talking about municipal boundaries, not built environment. The city of Washington is completely inside the District of Columbia.
oh ok. woops sorry :bash:
streetscapeer July 28th, 2005, 05:09 PM Everyone....he's not talking about a Metropolitan area, only the City!
SHiRO July 28th, 2005, 05:22 PM I think most people are misunderstanding the question...
Effer July 28th, 2005, 06:31 PM The only one I know is NYC.
NYC2ORDGuy July 28th, 2005, 06:39 PM Remember, too, the definition of a city vs. a metropolitan area is very different across different countries. A city, to an Australian, is what an American would call the Central Business District of a much larger city.
edsg25 July 28th, 2005, 08:03 PM Thanks for those who helped clarify:
I'm thinking about U.S. cities.
And wondering if any major ones among these are located within more than one county.
Already established: New York City's five boroughs constitute five counties, so NYC is a definite.
Also established: Chicago's almost meaningless stretch of land in DuPage County that is part of O'Hare Airport's boundaries. For all intents and purposes, Chicago is all Cook County.
But are there any major cities in the nation that somehow managed to get land across a county line? So far, we've seen no evidence.
schreiwalker July 28th, 2005, 09:50 PM my hometown of Bethlehem, PA, I think is the only city in Pennsylvania to be split by a county line. Its about 72,000 people, with prob like 50k in Northampton County and 20k in Lehigh County.
the city is actually larger than that, though, as Bethlehem and Allentown (remember Billy Joel's song?) form a continuous city proper that has about 185,000 people with a metro of 700,000. The two cities (and the tiny hamlets surrounding them) are just very old and very independent, so never bothered joining up.
as far as really major cities, I can't think of any off-hand.
I know that it's impossible in Virginia, because they have EITHER cities or counties whose borders don't overlap.
NYC2ORDGuy July 28th, 2005, 09:53 PM Oh of course, Newark, NJ!
Newark is in Essex County (west across the Meadowlands from Jersey City and the Hudson River waterfront, if anyone is keeping track).
However, Newark Airport, considered to be Newark territory (owned by Newark and operated by the bistate Port Authority of New York and New Jersey) lies half in Essex County and half in neighboring Union County.
So by dint of Newark Airport, Newark straddles two New Jersey counties.
schreiwalker July 28th, 2005, 10:11 PM Oh of course, Newark, NJ!
Newark is in Essex County (west across the Meadowlands from Jersey City and the Hudson River waterfront, if anyone is keeping track).
However, Newark Airport, considered to be Newark territory (owned by Newark and operated by the bistate Port Authority of New York and New Jersey) lies half in Essex County and half in neighboring Union County.
So by dint of Newark Airport, Newark straddles two New Jersey counties.
cheater :soapbox:
edit: just kidding, of course
dave8721 July 28th, 2005, 10:15 PM It can't happen in Florida. I think they way the state constitution defines the charter of each county has cities being entities within a county and therefore by definition they cannot cross the border of a county.
TexasBoi July 28th, 2005, 11:29 PM I think Houston has some in Ft. Bend and Brazoria county. I think Dallas has some in Collin but i'm not sure.
marathon July 28th, 2005, 11:39 PM There are several. Many of the larger cities in Texas spill over into neighboring counties.
In the Chicago area, two municipalities cover parts of four different counties. Barrington Hills is in Cook, Lake, Kane, and McHenry Counties, and the four corners point where DuPage, Kane, Will and Kendall Counties meet is in Aurora, which has land in each of the four counties. Bartlett lies partly in Cook, DuPage, and Kane Counties. Several dozen other Chicago area cities have annexed themselves across a county line, incuding Bolingbrook, Woodridge, Burr Ridge, Algonquin, Saint Charles, Hanover Park, Elk Grove Village, Roselle, Island Park, Channahon, Minooka, Diamond, Oswego, Somonauk, Chebanse, Steger, Buffalo Grove, Elgin, Montgomery, Hinsdale, Naperville, Wayne, Batavia, and many more.
Also, Broomfield, Colorado until recently sprawled into four different counties: Jefferson, Boulder, Adams, and Weld, until the city of Broomfield became its own county a few years back....
marathon July 28th, 2005, 11:42 PM I think Houston has some in Ft. Bend and Brazoria county. I think Dallas has some in Collin but i'm not sure.
Yes, Dallas extends slightly into Collin County, and Fort Worth extends into Denton County. Also, Grande Prairie is split between Dallas and Tarrant, Plano, between Denton and Collin, and Carrolton between Dallas, Denton, and Collin
AcesHigh July 28th, 2005, 11:56 PM there are no counties in Brasil and I dont know to what a county could be related. A municipality? I guess not.
marathon July 29th, 2005, 12:15 AM there are no counties in Brasil and I dont know to what a county could be related. A municipality? I guess not.
Vaguely, yes. Counties are roughly comparable to Mexican municipios. Could be similar for Brazil.
great prairie July 29th, 2005, 12:40 AM Yes, Dallas extends slightly into Collin County, and Fort Worth extends into Denton County. Also, Grande Prairie is split between Dallas and Tarrant, Plano, between Denton and Collin, and Carrolton between Dallas, Denton, and Collin
Frisco is split between Denton/Collin
Richardson - Dallas/Collin(barely)
There are a couple more just no point in posting them
Azn_chi_boi July 29th, 2005, 04:06 AM Philadelphia is on two counties(part of its airport its in Delware county.
AcesHigh July 29th, 2005, 05:48 AM Vaguely, yes. Counties are roughly comparable to Mexican municipios. Could be similar for Brazil.
but municípios (municipalities) in Brasil usually have just one city in Brasil. There may be some small village also... much smaller than the main city... and only ONE city administration for the whole municipality. I mean... only one city hall and such.
And it cant be the same also, cuz counties in US are big... my state alone has 480 municipalities... so they are not big of course.
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