The last 'quarter ' of the city looks like its about to get the makeover treatment...Crosby are submitting a design for a scheme called Honduras Wharf, designed by Glen Howells

this is the area click to view map (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=407000&Y=288000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=GB&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=true&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=5000&down.x=189&down.y=7)

also several thousand student beds are being developed, off corporation street by Gosta Green and Aston Uni and further in on Lower Loveday Street....also several property speculators and housing companies are now buying land and sites !!!

I love this area, its like the Jewellery Quarter in scale, but very very run down with small scale industrial and many many interesting buildings, I hope they keep the character.

Cracking news - hopefully some decent size mid-rises might be included. (Especiallyt if Mr Howells has designed it and Crosby are building it)
:cheers1:

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

There's a site in the Gun Quarter already it has a crane up and they're clearing away an old building. Does anyone know whats going there? Its just round the corner from Lancaster Circus...

Sounds like I'll have to have a butchers round the Gun Quarter with my camera next time in Brum

student accomodation x

Highest building will be 12 storeys and will slope down in height towards St Chads - theres a pretty hefty document in Brum gov. website :cheers1:

u got the http of the document, would love to see a render!

Apparently my Great-Grandfather owned a Gun Shop on a site which is now the Post & Mail building. I had no idea! Also shows that the Gun quarter is smaller then it used to be thanks to the inner ring road

I had a quick mooch round the gun quarter and took a few pics, all i did really was use the subway under St Chads Queensway and then took a few pics walking down Loveday Street, Lower Loveday Street and then turned left onto Summer row before heading back to St Pauls Square to where my car was parked....click the link below for a map

http://uk8.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=407000&Y=287500&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=10000&multimap.x=345&multimap.y=129

Right here's the pics.....not the least expected name for a pub in this area. This on the corner of Loveday Street and Price street as soon as you emerge from the subway
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/GunQuarter1.jpg

This the canal that runs under Lower Loveday Street
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/GunQuarter2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/GunQuarter3.jpg

This is me being artistic tart
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/GunQuarter7.jpg

There are quite a few premises like this on Lower Loveday Street :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/Gunquarter4.jpg

But otheres on the street are being demolished ready for future developments :banana:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/GunQuarter8.jpg

Here's the building thats being demolished, the front of which is round the corner on Summer Row
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/Gunquarter12.jpg

And this is what's on the other corner
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/Gunquarter9.jpg

Some derelict premises on Summer Row
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/Gunquarter13.jpg

Still on Summer Row, this is what happens when you point your camera in the direction of the sun....quite cool really
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/gunQuarter11.jpg

smashing job mate

The Gun Quarter could be quite amazing if done right. lets hope it is. Great pictures, anymore?

True it's got a lot of potential...it was the first time I'd ever walked round there so i suppose it is a forgotten part of the city centre....those are all my pics from that area but i've still got pics to post on other threads

Just imagine this area being developed into something which Manchester has where its surrounded by high-rises. Make the paths walkable,wang in some retail outlets and cafe's ect. The council really need to think about this development. Its got huge scope for a major reconstruction that can not only spread the city out more but bring in a part of Birmingham that has been neglected for years. A few skyscrapers along this canal corridor would be very welcomed, however I dont think it will be :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/GunQuarter3.jpg

You used the word 'wang' I don't think I've heard that since school, quality :lol: it's definitely part of my vocabulary from now on. And yes I agree with everything you say BC

Might as well stick these on here as well even though they're not taken in the Gun quarter. These are all taken on Water Street which is the other side of Constitution Hill heading towards St Pauls Square, anyway I took these on the way back to my car.

We love our arches, this is looking up Water Street in the direction of the BT Tower and yes that is the ever lovely Brindley House you can see hiding behind its grime....actually the last picture in this set is of Brindley House and I claim the impossible...I've actually managed to get a flattering picture of it :crazy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/Waterstreet1.jpg

Looking back toward Constitution Hill,,,,love that Terracotta
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/WaterStreet2.jpg

A bit moody this one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/WaterStreet3.jpg

Brindley House in all its glory :happy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/WaterStreet4.jpg

The best picture 'ever' of Brindley House...it actually looks quite cool in this one :uh:






honest :)





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/WaterStreet5.jpg

:hahaha: Great pictures - this beauty is getting a face lift and is being turned into Luxury apartments, with an additional 60 homes on surrounding land, should clean up this area when finished.

When can we start 'The brindley House' thread? :)

When can we start 'The brindley House' thread? :)

Soon I hope

I think I'll settle for The Spindley Mouse, me.

I think I'll settle for The Spindley Mouse, me.

What you'd have your address as Spindley House if you ever relocated to Brum :crazy:

So what is happening around here, has Miller Homes made any renders yet?

Quite a lot going on site at the Student digs in lower loveday street. They now have two cranes. Found this press release (its a bit old)

BLUESTONE ACCOMMODATES THE BRAINS OF BIRMINGHAM
21/06/05

Construction company Bluestone is continuing to pioneer the development of innovative and economical student accommodation with a £16.3m instruction from Derwent Living to construct 609 student beds on Lower Loveday Street in Birmingham city centre.

The contract figure represents a 15 per cent reduction on the original tendered build-cost, after Bluestone changed the original build philosophy from steel framed to traditional load bearing masonry and incorporated modular bathroom pods into the design.

The pod system is a method that Bluestone has pioneered for some time, having installed them successfully in a series of student accommodation projects, including its recent scheme on in Buxton for Infrastructure Investments Limited. The off-site manufactured pods are simply dropped into place, allowing Bluestone to minimise construction time and maximise available living space. The method reflects the company’s commitment to driving new industry practices such as CLIP (Construction Lean Improvement Programme), where a ‘lean’ approach is achieved by balancing the use of people, resources and materials to reduce costs, eliminate waste and boost productivity.

Bluestone has established itself as one of the UK’s leading contractors in student accommodation, with its Peter Street scheme in Nottingham taking its total of student beds to 1,600 in the city alone. The scheme is particularly interesting for UNITE as it takes offsite manufacture to the next stage by incorporating fully fitted modular bedrooms and staircases. In addition to the new contract in Birmingham, Bluestone is also currently on site in Buxton.

John Homer, regional managing director for Bluestone comments: “Bluestone is playing a pivotal role in the development of student accommodation in the Midlands and the schemes have proved extremely popular with occupiers and universities alike.

“The overwhelming success of the developments so far is a real testament to the company’s ability to work with its partners to deliver deadlines and provide schemes which offer the highest quality and most economical accommodation on the market.”

It's another Etap!

bump

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/Gunquarter12.jpg

I believe this building is being retained as part of the student development

That's good - we like that one :)

To be honest I though this scheme had been bought by crosby and was Honduras Wharf, but clwarly its not, so where the heck is Honduras Wharf?

Presumably Honduras Wharf backs onto a canal somewhere?

I don't recall seeing that building before.Very nice.

Honduras Wharf is the site adjacent to City Heights by Crosby which was knocked back at planning. I think the Crosby site is part of a larger proposal highlighted in the Gun Quarter plan as a mini Brindley Place type scheme

On an unrelated note has anyone been past the new student accommodation being built in the gun quarter, you can only just glimpse it from the ringroad but it looks quite finished. Perhaps someone could get a photo?

Honduras Wharf is the site adjacent to City Heights by Crosby which was knocked back at planning. I think the Crosby site is part of a larger proposal highlighted in the Gun Quarter plan as a mini Brindley Place type scheme

On an unrelated note has anyone been past the new student accommodation being built in the gun quarter, you can only just glimpse it from the ringroad but it looks quite finished. Perhaps someone could get a photo?

Show me it on a map and i will see what i can do.

CH

Found the following images on the Acanthus website, they are the agents for the other Honduras wharf scheme on Cliveland Street, don't think this is that scheme though, perhaps it's the Derwent student living scheme:

http://www.acanthus.co.uk/project.aspx?mid=4&sectorID=1&type=a&pid=237

Found the following images on the Acanthus website, they are the agents for the other Honduras wharf scheme on Cliveland Street, don't think this is that scheme though, perhaps it's the Derwent student living scheme:

http://www.acanthus.co.uk/project.aspx?mid=4&sectorID=1&type=a&pid=237

I was down there today and can confirm that the Derwent project is student accommodation. The Honduras Wharf project is [as said previously] behind The Heights.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Honduras.jpg

Thanks CH!

I quite like the castellated feature on top of that building...

Thanks CH!

I quite like the castellated feature on top of that building...


Yes Bio i thought that and actually took a shot of it but it's no better than that shot.

I spent a few hours wandering around The Gun Quarter yesterday, what little there is of it anyway. I had forgotten that i worked down there years ago, so a few memories were stirred up and it ain't changed all that much over the years. I got a lot of shots of the peripheries which i will post later, meanwhile here's what i got of the main bits.

CH

Another shot of the Honduras Wharf site. I went back today and got some much better shots but then left my camera in my brothers car ... doh !. I'll post them tomorrow.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Honduras-Wharf.jpg

The Derwent student accommodation site on Lower Loveday St.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-16.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-17.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-2.jpg

Student Accommodation on Bagot St [?]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-6.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-7.jpg

Old building next to said Student flats.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-5.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-4.jpg

And a few general shots of the historic buildings and streets.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-8.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-3.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-10.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-12.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-14.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-11.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-9.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-4.jpg

Thanks for the photos Cargo.This building above has loads of potential.Great looking pubs there and also that strange ,staggered ,white bulding (with A.Hill written on the side.How ironic! :) ).Great stuff.

The Central Substation on the end of the Derwent development. This building is not going anywhere !. I was allowed access to the Centro carpark to get a shot of the back, look at the detail in the brickwork, stunning for the rear of a building don't you think ?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-18.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-19.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-20.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-21.jpg

good god, why has tis area been left for so long...... this is ripe to becoming one of birminghams best areas....it does not have a conservationarea covering it like the JQ and so these old buildings can stand side by side to great new developments...... a real wasted opportunity

Yes Bio i thought that and actually took a shot of it but it's no better than that shot.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-4.jpg

This is such a terrific building, and quite possibly one of my favourites in the city (and I never even knew it was there!).

And the good news is that it will become student acommodation as follows:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a264/Biosonic/MolandStStudent.jpg

If I remember rightly, there are some building very similar to the Back-to-Backs (Inge St) right next to that Bull Pub. Looks a nice pub too :)

CH - you've really excelled yourself matey - thank you very much :cheers:

Seriously - have you though about compiling your photos into a book "Quarters of Birmingam" or something?

The reason this area has been left so long is because it is cut off from teh city by Gt Charles St Queensway. I think for that reason I would be happy to see the flyover at Aston Uni come down - allow it to reconnect to the rest of the city centre.

Oh, and the fact that Newtown is just down the road doesn't help either...

Thanks for the additional information Biosonic.

Background info about the area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Quarter,_Birmingham

I see a photo of the Gunmakers Arms.

If you go in the pub there is a peal board from a peal by some handbell ringers if memory serves me right. It had, and I hope it still does, a close link to St Chads Cathedral where the ringers would often go after ringing on a sunday morning for a pint before going to ring at St Phillips again.

Here we are on Hampton Street on the boundary with JQ.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-22.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-28.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-24.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-26.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-25.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-27.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-29.jpg

At this point i decided it was time for lunch and headed to The Lord Clifden, the food there is absolutely top notch.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-The-Lord-Clifden.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-30.jpg

I used to frequent The Cedar Club on Constitution Hill many years ago. The road was a dump back then with hardly a shop occupied, it's come on a hell of a lot since then. A lot of the buildings are lovely with some great detail in the brick work

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-2.jpg

wow, new hampton ofts...wat a development!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-5.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-6.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-8.jpg


photo could of been better but a worthy building i think.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-9.jpg

At least when they put the extra floor on this they left the original roof line. Maybe one day someone will have the good sense to return the building to it's original state.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-10.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-11.jpg

CH

the thing i do not get with constitution hill is that it is right next to twn, but just looks like any suburb...wish it could be made more dense

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Constitution-Hill-2.jpg

The above houses look great.The Hampton Lofts look fantastic too.So much potential in the area.Thanks for the photos Cargo.

quartz is a dissapointment. I disagree with Woodhousen though - i think Const hill is notably more dense than any suburb- its just run down and isolated.

Here we are on Hampton Street on the boundary with JQ.


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/cargohold/Gun-Quarter-26.jpg



Now she is a little beauty - thanks CH.

I must try the Lord Clifden - decent pub grub or something else? How is it pricewise?

Now she is a little beauty - thanks CH.

I must try the Lord Clifden - decent pub grub or something else? How is it pricewise?

I had an 8 oz homemade [and it definitely was homemade] New York Burger with a plate of chips for a fiver.

As for the book .... maybe in 2012 :)

CH

Where is Cargohold these day? I use to love his pics.

Alas I was in too much of a rush to pick mater and pater up in the car to go up Constition hill, but I did snap this one:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0864.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0865.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0866.jpg

also just around the corner in Water Street, this 18th Century Mexican prison:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0867.jpg
very odd...

The old china village is for sale btw, with a planning application for Resi.

^^Thats good. It is a very nice old building. It used to be the H.B. HQ I think.

Just a couple of random building, nice though...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1000144.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1000140.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1000138.jpg

Just a couple of random building, nice though...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1000140.jpg



You'd have thought at least the sign writer would have used a dictionary :rofl:

Do you think it is Sonia out of Eastenders? Sounds appropriate!

:lol: Good spot Bio. You're pretty observant.

HUB seems to have has a bit of a redesign.

It used to look like this...

http://i16.tinypic.com/2w6t1f4.jpg

...with the cladding made out of a perforated metallic mesh-like thing that seemed to give it a slightly shimmery effect.

Now it looks like this...

http://i19.tinypic.com/3yfcpzp.jpg

...with more of a corrugated aluminium type thing - seems to look a bit brasher to me.

Couple of renders...

http://i19.tinypic.com/47cjbkz.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/2dt0sit.jpg

Still Glenn Howells.

urgh!

Are we getting a new prison?

I like it- reminds me of bits of the orb.

I like it to Rigadon. Reminds me of a lot of flats in east central London.

I love it!!! :happy:

Gunmetal!

(Note - this is by no means a reference to the recent happenings in Manchester and London).

(PS - aren't you glad we live in the safest large city in the country, relatively speaking?)

lol well an interesting design!

I really like the Gun Quarter, I used to work on Spencer St in the JQ, which is pretty much on the GQ / JQ boundary and would often walk down there.

There seem to be an amazing number of lovely old buildings, absolutely dripping with character, which are currently either unused or occupied by ropey looking shops / car stereo warehouses.

Surely with the new public square in front of St Chad's improving access to the rest of the city, and with that huge office project at Snow Hill, this area must be absolutely primed to undergo some serious regeneration.

Also, the quality of some of the buildings there easily match some of the buildings we hear about being regenerated in Leeds and Mcr. I really do think this whole area could be a hidden gem.

And the canal between the Hub and St Chads surely should receive lots of attention, plus the best street into town (Gt Hampton St / Const Hill) should get all the tired bldgs make-overs.

And the canal between the Hub and St Chads surely should receive lots of attention

I watched a man catch a carp along here a few years back

Is that a euphemism?

That last Biosonic message made me giggle like a school girl!

Aaaaaand bringing the thread back up from the dead.. some photos today.

Centro house
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq1.jpg

Cathedral with newer building
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq2.jpg

This is a real 'squeaky-bum' area, junkie infestation appears to have hit many buildings
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq3.jpg

Plenty of redevelopment room though. SAS tactics were used on the photos here so a little blurry
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq4.jpg

Good rubble pile
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq5.jpg

Former electricity station
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq6.jpg

Student development off Summer Lane
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq7.jpg

Cool building
http://martinrossbrown.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/0103gq8.jpg

Is that a euphemism?

Slightly delayed response but no, I'm afraid not. He was fishing

Nice pics CityGent, I live in the student development on photo 7. It's a really good place to live if you like construction, I have a pretty decent view of Snow Hill and Kennedy Tower from my kitchen but Im too poor to afford a camera. I really hope this part of the city gets ear-marked for regeneration because it could become a very nice place. The Big City plan mentions a city-centre for families, I think the area would be great for an 'urban village' scheme. (as long as they manage to get rid of all the tramps and junkies!)

BBB , how many people live in the development ? Is it a decent place to live ?

Im not sure, theres 4 stairwells that serve the building, 5 floors on every stairwell and 4 flats on each floor. 1 flat = 6 residents, can you do the maths please! Im too lazy!! Its very nice on paper, we have a gym, dont pay any bills, broadband internet, sky tv, all bedrooms are ensuite. Having said that, it does get incredibly noisey at night when people are having parties and going out etc. and the area isnt the nicest really, lots of drunks and homeless people. But generally its pretty good! Much less hassle than living in an apartment and its literally 2/3 mins walk to Colmore Row, so I'd say its a pretty good choice!

I've just done an estimate and I think its roughly 480 people in my building. But there is another building that is part of the development which is slightly smaller. So id say that there must be around 800 people living here.

A lot of people .Glad you are enjoying it !

I'm sure you probably know about this proposal, but if you don't, it's a 21 story student tower planned for the Gun Quarter. Article and render below.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture444670-1.jpg

http://www.elyproperty.ie/

http://www.prsarchitects.com/

yep, still doesn't look nice.

Nice thumb though jrb lol ;)

yep, still doesn't look nice.

Nice thumb though jrb lol ;)

Taken in WHSmiths. Had to hold the page flat on the floor. :lol: Note the lovely pink nails and lack of calcium deficiency.(white flecks)