It may be an improvement on what's there already, but I've stepped in more atrractive things. This is hardly a statement that Leeds is a premier shopping destination. Is this why nobody has been willing to publish any images of what the entire scheme will look like? Is Trinity West just Bond Street without the bus stops and bridge?

It may be an improvement on what's there already, but I've stepped in more atrractive things. This is hardly a statement that Leeds is a premier shopping destination. Is this why nobody has been willing to publish any images of what the entire scheme will look like? Is Trinity West just Bond Street without the bus stops and bridge?

I'm worried that this may be the case. I'm not impressed at all but if they reclad Plaza I will let it pass.

...why would they reclad Park Plaza? It's not theirs to reclad to start with, and it was only reclad a few years ago anyway.

...why would they reclad Park Plaza? It's not theirs to reclad to start with, and it was only reclad a few years ago anyway.

That's what i was going to say, and tbf park plaza isn't that offensive anyhow.

I don't think the current yellow brick is too bad a material it's just the overall design of the building. I think the revamp will be better than the crap renders. Though I can't believe they are not replacing the brown brick elements on Boar Lane and Albion Street with glass.

Anyone know what they planning to do with the north east corner of Trinity West?

...why would they reclad Park Plaza? It's not theirs to reclad to start with, and it was only reclad a few years ago anyway.

I never said Park Plaza, only Plaza- as in the shopping centre.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz325/melfiire/SnapShot248.png

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz325/melfiire/SnapShot247.png

^^

Nice contextual photos. Maybe not the best advert for tall buildings in Leeds though.

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg

What time do they normally stop working on site does anyone know??

At least that vile escalator and overpass will be gone, maybe they could give the pavements a good wash too?

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg

What time do they normally stop working on site does anyone know??


Well, today, the gates were closed by about 3.30. I'm guessing they've caught up with any delays caused by the recent bad weather

Well, today, the gates were closed by about 3.30. I'm guessing they've caught up with any delays caused by the recent bad weather

3:30! i wasn't expecting that, surely that isn't everyday?

3:30! i wasn't expecting that, surely that isn't everyday?

No it isn't but I think builders like to finish early on a Friday.

No it isn't but I think builders like to finish early on a Friday.

Aye, i think they finish at around five in general looking at the webcam.

Aye, i think they finish at around five in general looking at the webcam.

I have seen them working at the weekends (I presume to catch up).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12607065
Thieves steal 10-tonne footbridge from Selby trailer

A footbridge weighing about 10.5 tonnes has been stolen from the back of a trailer in North Yorkshire.

The footbridge constructed for a new shopping development in Leeds was taken overnight on 17 February from a holding yard in Roall Lane, Selby.

The steel bridge measuring 3ft 6in (1.06m) wide is worth about £25,000 and had been on the back of a trailer.

The police said anyone who had seen the bridge being taken or knew where it was should contact them immediately.

The shopping development, Trinity Leeds, is a one million sq ft centre around Briggate, Albion Street and Boar Lane, which will have 120 shops, restaurants and employ about 4,000 people.

It is expected to open in the city centre in 2013.

Haha just heard about this on Radio 4. A random steal!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12607065
Thieves steal 10-tonne footbridge from Selby trailer

A footbridge weighing about 10.5 tonnes has been stolen from the back of a trailer in North Yorkshire.

The footbridge constructed for a new shopping development in Leeds was taken overnight on 17 February from a holding yard in Roall Lane, Selby.

The steel bridge measuring 3ft 6in (1.06m) wide is worth about £25,000 and had been on the back of a trailer.

The police said anyone who had seen the bridge being taken or knew where it was should contact them immediately.

The shopping development, Trinity Leeds, is a one million sq ft centre around Briggate, Albion Street and Boar Lane, which will have 120 shops, restaurants and employ about 4,000 people.

It is expected to open in the city centre in 2013.

not exactly going to look very good in someone's back garden... although i suppose it would make a nice conversation starter. haha, madness

not exactly going to look very good in someone's back garden...


Yeah, I always like to have my 10-tonne bridges tailor-made :)

Good luck to them trying to take that to Eric France... :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12607065
Thieves steal 10-tonne footbridge from Selby trailer

A footbridge weighing about 10.5 tonnes has been stolen from the back of a trailer in North Yorkshire.

The footbridge constructed for a new shopping development in Leeds was taken overnight on 17 February from a holding yard in Roall Lane, Selby.

The steel bridge measuring 3ft 6in (1.06m) wide is worth about £25,000 and had been on the back of a trailer.

The police said anyone who had seen the bridge being taken or knew where it was should contact them immediately.

The shopping development, Trinity Leeds, is a one million sq ft centre around Briggate, Albion Street and Boar Lane, which will have 120 shops, restaurants and employ about 4,000 people.

It is expected to open in the city centre in 2013.

Actually it was stolen from Kellington.

Email them and tell them.

It must have been pretty well planned to steal an entire footbridge!

Surely would have needed at least some lifting equipment and a covered lorry and most likely some cutting equipment. No doubt the scrap value in the bridge is the reason for it's theft.

Surely would have needed at least some lifting equipment and a covered lorry and most likely some cutting equipment. No doubt the scrap value in the bridge is the reason for it's theft.

Sounds like an inside job to me.

Sounds like an inside job to me.

That's what I thought. It's unlikely to have been an act of opportunism.

Trinity has already made a decent contribution to the streetscape on Briggate. I've never been a fan until the last week or so but I'm hoping the white-tiled Topman store is retained for some reason, even though I know it's not going to be.

A lot of you seem to underestimate us opportunistic bridge-stealers in Yorkshire :shifty:

Surely would have needed at least some lifting equipment and a covered lorry and most likely some cutting equipment

Bugs Bunny pockets are all that you need.

Trinity has already made a decent contribution to the streetscape on Briggate. I've never been a fan until the last week or so but I'm hoping the white-tiled Topman store is retained for some reason, even though I know it's not going to be.

The first ever branch of Topman opened by Topshop was actually in Leeds. Does anyone know where the site of that first store was?

The first ever branch of Topman opened by Topshop was actually in Leeds. Does anyone know where the site of that first store was?

There's a good chance it was the current store: the first store opened in 1978 and I was shopping in that one in 1982 and don't remember it being anywhere else. Unless I'm getting so old that my memory is playing tricks.

I remember when I was seven, working down t'pit...

Actually it was stolen from Kellington.

And Roall Lane is where..?

Between Kellington and the A19 at Eggborough Power Station.

The Birdcage club on Boar Lane (within the bus stop area of Boar Lane) has closed its doors (to reopen at an undeclared date after an extensive refurb which wont take place until work on Trinity progresses). I heard the whole bus shelter thing closes this month.

Update: Birdcage's regular show nights moved to Fire nightclub for the foreseeable future.

The Freehold for sale/let sign at Caffe Nero/Square On The Lane says 'Businesses not affected'. I presume they're hoping to shift the unused upper floors of that building.

The webcam is not working for me - how long has it been down?

The webcam is not working for me - how long has it been down?

Two days now :ohno:

The Birdcage club on Boar Lane (within the bus stop area of Boar Lane) has closed its doors (to reopen at an undeclared date after an extensive refurb which wont take place until work on Trinity progresses). I heard the whole bus shelter thing closes this month.

Update: Birdcage's regular show nights moved to Fire nightclub for the foreseeable future.

The Freehold for sale/let sign at Caffe Nero/Square On The Lane says 'Businesses not affected'. I presume they're hoping to shift the unused upper floors of that building.

there appears to be a lot of empty upper floors around that corner of Boar Lane/Mill Hill, conversion to flats would be good.

Its a shame that Square on the lane hasn't been forced to shut. Good news about Bird Cage; isn't it the number one location for fights etc during the night?

Bird Cage is reopening at it's present Trinity West site once work is completed on this part of the scheme late next year.

there appears to be a lot of empty upper floors around that corner of Boar Lane/Mill Hill, conversion to flats would be good.

So you could watch the fighting from your lounge window?

Webcam is up and running again!!:)

Just in case you haven't seen it for a while!

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg

There will be no more cranes on site till at least June.

Some random shots in yesterday's sunshine:


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010003-1.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010007.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010006.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010005.jpg


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http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010002.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010001.jpg

Great photos, cheers for the updates aviator! :)

Cool images (and nice to have Spring on the way).



This image was floating around on Google. It's an interior shot of Trinity.


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/webimage/nlep_02_03_11_p12bridge_1_3131677!image/566448765.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/566448765.jpg

Anything happening on Albion St - overpass works or demolition of older buildings?...

Anything happening on Albion St - overpass works or demolition of older buildings?...

Both - the upper bridge has been half demolished, and the buildings along Albion Street (former CeX, Specsavers, MK One) are about 1/4 demolished.

Some random shots in yesterday's sunshine:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010002.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/March%202011/P1010001.jpg

@Aviator.

Might be a good idea to submit these pictures to the Leodis website.

I think it would involve you allowing them to have the copyright though,copying them onto a cd/dvd.

Just a suggestion.

@Aviator.

Might be a good idea to submit these pictures to the Leodis website.

I think it would involve you allowing them to have the copyright though,copying them onto a cd/dvd.

Just a suggestion.


Why, thank you, I'll look into it. I'd never thought about copyright before; as far as I'm concerned, people are welcome to use it. :cheers:

Falling masonry on the Albion Street corner of Trinity West closes one of the bus stops in the underpass due to the wind. No injuries but a bus suffered superficial damage apparently.

Both - the upper bridge has been half demolished, and the buildings along Albion Street (former CeX, Specsavers, MK One) are about 1/4 demolished.

The North Bridge Demo has only just commenced this week, mostly internal demo and one or two walls.

The North Bridge Demo has only just commenced this week, mostly internal demo and one or two walls.

Really - I was certain I could see through the upper half of where the bridge was the other day.

Really - I was certain I could see through the upper half of where the bridge was the other day.

That will probably be the height of the scaffold as a means of edge protection

That will probably be the height of the scaffold as a means of edge protection

Actually, I blame lunchtime drinks :cheers: - there's only about 3ft of clear scaffold at the top so I definitely blaming booze here.

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg


I hope the cams working, it seems to of frozen yet again :(

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg


I hope the cams working, it seems to of frozen yet again :(

just noticed how the briggate entrance is going to line up with market street arcade. that's going to create a great pedestrian corridor from the corn exchange through to the city centre

I hope the cams working, it seems to of frozen yet again :(

The webcam never works on Sundays or Tuesdays. Not sure why but it's like that every week.

Is it possible if someone could put a sticky on one of the webcam posts?

Rod McPhee: Force-fed the truth


Published on Monday 14 March 2011 15:44

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/webimage/jh3_2590_1_3179074!image/2777087272.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/2777087272.jpg
Construction work for the building of the new Trinity scheme in Leeds.

Developers can adopt Jedi-like assertions to convince you that, despite all evidence to the contrary, their projects will go ahead as planned. And I certainly felt some kind of force last year when I met Gerald Jennings, boss of the Trinity scheme in Leeds.


Mooted as one of the most important investments in the city, in 2009 he’d called a halt to the leisure and retail development between Briggate and Boar Lane, even though owners, Land Securities, had already flattened the existing buildings.

As they still like to remind me, I branded the company the “Corporate Luftwaffe” for their apparent nonchalance in reducing a city centre to rubble then clearing off home.

Small wonder given what Westfield did to the heart of neighbouring Bradford where a giant desert still languishes in the place of the former shopping precinct.

Anyway, during our interview the Trinity chief reassured the people of Leeds they’d be back on site before the end of 2010. I was sceptical.

But a year on, I have to admit that scepticism was unfounded. Sure enough, they did return and over the past five months the progress they’ve made is staggering.

What I didn’t know, ironically, was that the company’s founder, Lord Samuel, actually went around British cities after the Second World War redeveloping bomb sites. And here I was accusing their latter day incarnation of creating one.

A plea of extenuating circumstances should be entered here, however. As far back as ten years ago I wrote about grand plans to transform the Trinity and Burton arcades into a 21st Century shopping and retail complex, plans which were announced just as proposals for Clarence Dock were also unveiled.

But a decade on, the dock has been built while Trinity (which seems to have been on a rollercoaster of fortune and misfortune) is only now getting off the ground.

And you should see just how far off the ground it is.

If you haven’t taken in the development recently you’ll be amazed by the giant steel skeleton which has grown around Trinity Church since October.

The only scepticism now surrounds why, since they appear to have made so much progress, they’ve set an opening date as far away as spring 2013.

Are they giving themselves extra time as they struggle to get the necessary number of tenants? Or will it really take two years to complete the internal fit-out?

Master Jennings informs me the latter is the case – and this time I’m inclined to believe him...


In other news (the Daily Star)...

MEL B reckons northerners like herself are much better than southerners, as they’re not as up themselves. Mel B, born in Leeds, told Goss: “Northerners fit in more down here. We’re way more down-to-earth than the Londoners.”

This is the same Mel B who refused to live in Harehills without a phalanx of bodyguards while filming Seven Days on the Breadline in 2010.

..In other news (the Daily Star)...

This is the same Mel B who refused to live in Harehills without a phalanx of bodyguards while filming Seven Days on the Breadline in 2010.

you never forget your roots eh? ;) haha

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In other news (the Daily Star)...




I always knew you were a Daily Star reader!...

I always knew you were a Daily Star reader!...

I once bought the Star because it had a 'North V. South' feature that tried to decide which 'region' was better based on 'Music', 'Football' and 'Celebrities'. It went to a sudden death play-off between a large breasted southern brunette and and a large breasted northern blonde. I think it ended in a score draw.

..


In other news (the Daily Star)...



This is the same Mel B who refused to live in Harehills without a phalanx of bodyguards while filming Seven Days on the Breadline in 2010.

Neither would i,and i lived there most of my life.:)

The second and third images in the 'drawing' section show what is probably the final revised Miralles design for the site that was axed by LandSec. You can click on the image and scroll across.

http://www.mirallestagliabue.com/project_media.asp?id=125&idd=1253


Looks similar to the Scottish Parliament.

http://concreteandlullabies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/www.archdaily-1.jpeg

What the f**k is that :puke:

http://concreteandlullabies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/www.archdaily-1.jpeg

looks like a prison :nuts:

What the f**k is that :puke:

looks like a prison :nuts:

It's Scotland's parliament. An appropriate building style for Catalonia but maybe not for this country.

What's interesting about the EMBT drawings is that they show Trinity strecthing from McDonalds on the corner to the black M&S building, so the M&S extension (the former Freeman Hardy Willis store from the '80s) would have been part of Trinity.

That's okay - it was probably paid for by the English...

It's not a good building by any stretch of the imagination. It's like a turd at the end of the Royal Mile.

quite surprised to see guys still on site at the boar lane end tonight around 6:30-7pm.

had time to kill this evening so walked down Commercial Street, Briggate and then onto Boar Lane. lots of cool looking angles all over the place. it's going to have a real presence in that part of the city.

also from commercial street looking down trinity street/lane/whatever it's called, you get a great view of the church. i hope the glass roof doesn't block out too much of that view :)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5538676500_440ec6934c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherhester/5538676500/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherhester/5538676500/) by Christopher Hester (http://www.flickr.com/people/christopherhester/), on Flickr


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5538092793_90f7a287f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherhester/5538092793/)
What's this they're building? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherhester/5538092793/) by Christopher Hester (http://www.flickr.com/people/christopherhester/), on Flickr

I found this new render on Land Securities Website, on this render i've notice everyman cinema has a glass frontage instead of the grey cladding.

http://www.landsecuritiesretail.com/propertyportfolio/developments/northeast/trinityleeds/12409.jpg


Could be wrong though judging by the other renders.

great progress and the new render looks good.

Looking good!!!!

The corner facade of the cinema is glass over three levels.

this is probably a silly question but i've been looking at that render and was wondering at what point they would be putting the roof structure onto this place. is there an idiots guide for a construction project like this... 1) foundations 2) walls 3) roof? obviously with a little more detail :)

^ More or less. I'm sure there is a construction schedule for this online but I can't find it. I can't even find the website anymore.

The Boar Lane element looks good but it doesn't seem to conceal the painted brick side of Squares or the beige clad delivery bay like the old C&A/Next building did.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5556142483_c54a223033_b.jpg

The Boar Lane element looks good but it doesn't seem to conceal the painted brick side of Squares or the beige clad delivery bay like the old C&A/Next building did.

would they not reclad the visible section to make it match the new trinity colour scheme?

would they not reclad the visible section to make it match the new trinity colour scheme?

You would have thought so. They haven't even begun work on that part of the centre yet. And hopefully if someone takes the freehold on the upper floors of Squares that building might get some TLC.

Aha, I actually saw you today Rob if you were on Briggate wearing a hardhat in the vicinity of TQ and discussing plans with a couple of other guys. I nearly stopped and said hello but I thought that would have been a bit Norman Bates (and would have revealed my true, and probably slightly underwhelming, identity).

I thought Trinity looked really good from Boar Lane. Just needs some flesh on the steel bones now.

From the Trinity Leeds website;

29
th
March 2011
TRINITY LEEDS – BUILDS CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY CENTRE
A magnificent seven months of work on site sees Land Securities’ Trinity Leeds development - the largest retail-led scheme currently under construction outside London – on target for its spring 2013 opening. Leeds City Council leader Councillor Keith Wakefield and chief executive Tom Riordan, who visited the site for an update, are impressed with the progress being made on the £350m landmark shopping and leisure destination. The 1 million sq ft scheme, a beacon of retail excellence is expected to lift Leeds to fourth place in the UK rankings above Manchester. Lettings are approaching 60% and the transformation of Albion Street, a key thoroughfare at the heart of the development, is well underway.

Councillor Wakefield, said: “At a time when new jobs are at a premium, I am really pleased about the current and future employment, training and career opportunities that this major scheme is bringing for local people who are looking for work.”

He added: “When Land Securities made the announcement last summer that Trinity Leeds was to back on track, it gave the city a tremendous lift as a clear indication that investor confidence is returning.

“Anybody, both in this city and throughout the UK, who sees the fantastic progress that has been made since then, has to be impressed and the employment for 1,000 construction workers and up to 3,000 retail staff is very welcome indeed.” Tom Riordan added: “A recent Centre for Cities report put Leeds among the top five UK locations with the most potential for creating private sector jobs and Trinity, alongside our own Arena"

Can't believe it's another 2 years to completion, given how fast the steel frame has gone up!

Can't believe it's another 2 years to completion, given how fast the steel frame has gone up!

the frame is the easy part. all the wiring, plumbing and other infrastructure is what takes time. although you never know, we could get an early christmas present given the rate they've been going at of late. *crosses fingers and toes*

It's heartening to see demolition moving towards the M and S loading bay on the webcam now, and they are still going at nearly 9pm!

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg

The roof will take time, not the steel work, mainly the glass fitting...

This render makes me quite excited :lol: it sort of reminds me of Liverpool one :nuts:

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8440/new5.png

This render makes me quite excited :lol: it sort of reminds me of Liverpool one :nuts:

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8440/new5.png

yeah it really does. i take it this is from the briggate end looking into the complex?

I was in town the other day and walked past the site and was wowed at the impact this has had on Briggate and Boar Lane. It is really imposing, but in a good way. Can't wait for spring 2013 because this is going to completely change Leeds city center.

Apologies if this as already been covered earlier on in this thread, but is the Leeds Shopping Plaza Mall going to be completely seperate to Trinty [ I know there are planned walkways across ] or is it going to be refurbished to match Trinty and become part of that.

From today's Retail Gazette: http://www.retailgazette.co.uk/articles/10013-shopping-centre-development-pipeline-to-stay-dry#

Shopping centre development pipeline to stay dry

"The limited supply of new space coming onto the market should support prime rental levels going forward. Work on Trinity Leeds restarted in August, and other projects that were put on hold during the economic downturn may be resumed to meet demand for new space.”

Along with Westfield Stratford, only two more centres are due to be unveiled this year; the 46,500 sq m Trinity Walk in Wakefield and the 25,000 sq m Parkway in Newbury. The only centre due to open in 2012 is the Tesco Centre in West Bromwich (53,000 sq m)

Land Securities’ Trinity Leeds project is the only major development in the pipeline after next year, so it seems landlords are going to be the biggest winners of the current environment with demand for retail space still so high.

Toby Sykes, Partner for Retail Services at Cushman & Wakefield, commented: “There is great potential in the current retail development market. The lack of supply of new retail space, coupled with strong demand from leading retailers, is a real opportunity for landlords.

“They must however, build to requirements and avoid oversupply. From our experience leasing Trinity Leeds for Land Securities at present, it is clear to us that there is considerable demand for the right development product.”

Apologies if this as already been covered earlier on in this thread, but is the Leeds Shopping Plaza Mall going to be completely seperate to Trinty [ I know there are planned walkways across ] or is it going to be refurbished to match Trinty and become part of that.

It's referred to as Trinity West, and will be part of the integrated Trinity scheme. It will be refurbished internally and in places externally. The plans appear to show a smaller mall floor plan in favour of larger units. The escalator at the foot of Albion Street/Boar Lane is going along with its walkway. The new walkway is double level, you will be able to walk over to the new Trinity Quarter from both the first and second levels of Trinity West.

Thanks Lazygamer, I knew about the escalator going and the two new walkways coming in, but wasn't clear if the Plaza was going to remain the same in name and design. I had heard the name Trinty West mentioned before but thought that was refering to that end of the new build.

Does anyone know WHEN the Walkway/Escalator are being torn down? I was in town a few weeks back and saw people using it..

Does anyone know WHEN the Walkway/Escalator are being torn down? I was in town a few weeks back and saw people using it..

It won't be for a while yet because I think the workmen are using the stairs to get into the Centre.

Ah, right, thanks. :)

Went past today.. Walkway was fully covered and lots of noises which sounded hopeful.

A good video feature on the YP wesite today with lots of shots of the construction site.

Trinity video (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/business-news/a_city_centre_that_s_undergoing_huge_transformation_1_3260427)

A good video feature on the YP wesite today with lots of shots of the construction site.

Trinity video (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/business-news/a_city_centre_that_s_undergoing_huge_transformation_1_3260427)

Great find BH! :cheers:

Went past today.. Walkway was fully covered and lots of noises which sounded hopeful.

And it's nice to see from the webcam that the last truly nasty bit of the old Trinity Arcade is at last being demolished. :cheers:

Great video.
I wonder whether the Bond Street centre re-clad will also provide the 'everyday wow' factor for the people of Leeds (!).

A good video feature on the YP wesite today with lots of shots of the construction site.

Trinity video (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/business-news/a_city_centre_that_s_undergoing_huge_transformation_1_3260427)

great little video. nice to see that the chap at the top has a real passion for this. he came across as a bit smug too but then he has good reason to be... didn't realise that trinity is going to be 2/3's the size of meadowhall. that is a lot of shopping!! :shocked:

great little video. nice to see that the chap at the top has a real passion for this. he came across as a bit smug too but then he has good reason to be... didn't realise that trinity is going to be 2/3's the size of meadowhall. that is a lot of shopping!! :shocked:

Aye, was he including Trinity West though in that though?

I think so. Meadowhall is 131,922 m2. Trinity (inc Trinity West) is around 95,000 square metres.

Trinity West alone is 25,000 m2. Trinity East is about 70,000 m2.

Does anyone know WHEN the Walkway/Escalator are being torn down? I was in town a few weeks back and saw people using it..

I think the escalators go at the end of Aprill. I dont know the sequence for the stairs and walkway though.

Cliffordstead has a few good recent pictures of the Trinity site on his photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cliffordstead/with/5610911033/

I think the escalators go at the end of Aprill. I dont know the sequence for the stairs and walkway though.

I noticed yesterday that the escalators were closed and that hoardings were going up around the entrance.

I t seems the steelwork for the rooftop resturant is going up behind the church.

I think the church should be cleaned up as part of this development. It would really enhance people's perceptions of that part of town.

As do I, but I suppose its an issue of who's going to fund it? I've heard the word closure floating around in relation to that church, but I personally think that's ridiculous as it is a growing church. If in a few years it is back on its feet, they may be able to fund improvements/cleaning themselves.

You can only just spot it on the webcam, but the once missing link bridge is now in place next to the church.

As do I, but I suppose its an issue of who's going to fund it? I've heard the word closure floating around in relation to that church, but I personally think that's ridiculous as it is a growing church. If in a few years it is back on its feet, they may be able to fund improvements/cleaning themselves.

the council could have stipulated it in the planning permisison i suppose.

Some buildings can't be cleaned as the process damages the stonework. I think that may be the case for Trinity church.

The cafe to the rear of the church recently lost it's tenants due to a lack of funding.

This photo is quite old now but its interesting nonetheless...

http://locateinleeds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Trinity-Leeds-aerial1.jpg

To be honest I think churches tend to look better in black. I much preferred the look to the church next to the Parkinson building before they sandblasted it...

I have to disagree. European cities set the benchmark and I dream of the day that our cities are as clean as those. I went to Dresden last year and it is immaculate, each church glistening alongside modern glass structures. There's no legitimate reason it can't be like this in Leeds.

I have to disagree. European cities set the benchmark and I dream of the day that our cities are as clean as those. I went to Dresden last year and it is immaculate, each church glistening alongside modern glass structures. There's no legitimate reason it can't be like this in Leeds.

True!

I would also love to see this church with some decent lighting, especially highlighting the steeple. If I were Sir Terence Conran, I'd offer to install some lighting because the diners in his restaurants would certainly get the benefit of the church being lit up at night.

Some churches and buildings cannot be cleaned. Didn't they try cleaning Liverpool Town Hall and just made a mess? (correct me if I'm wrong)

Some churches and buildings cannot be cleaned. Didn't they try cleaning Liverpool Town Hall and just made a mess? (correct me if I'm wrong)


I think it's all do do with the kind of stone you're trying to clean and the cleaning methods used. Certainly, in the early days of cleaning buildings some crude methods were used. Sandblasting was a popular one but I believe it was disastrous on some kinds of stone.

In any case, it looks very much as though Holy Trinity Church has been cleaned already.

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/51/8351.jpg


It's just that the millstone grit the church is built of is a fairly sombre grey in its natural state so the building would never glow in the way that, for example, the Civic Hall (built of Portland stone) did after it was cleaned.

Walked by the Briggate entrance of Trinity tonight and I have to say even at this early stage it is taking shape and looking quite impressive.

I think it's all do do with the kind of stone you're trying to clean and the cleaning methods used. Certainly, in the early days of cleaning buildings some crude methods were used. Sandblasting was a popular one but I believe it was disastrous on some kinds of stone.

In any case, it looks very much as though Holy Trinity Church has been cleaned already.

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/51/8351.jpg


It's just that the millstone grit the church is built of is a fairly sombre grey in its natural state so the building would never glow in the way that, for example, the Civic Hall (built of Portland stone) did after it was cleaned.

yeah have they not cleaned the church in the last few years? i'm certain i remember it being a lot darker when i first moved up

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Good find :)

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I presume these pics confirm that the current Topshop facade will not receive a much needed face-lift! :ohno:

I'm pretty sure Topshop is getting a facelift. :)

http://www.europe-re.com/files/content/00117000/117083_Trinity%20Leeds1.jpg

I'm pretty sure Topshop is getting a facelift. :)

http://www.europe-re.com/files/content/00117000/117083_Trinity%20Leeds1.jpg

The model posted by Di Livio suggests this is the Topshop expansion and the original 1960's section will remain!

The model posted by Di Livio suggests this is the Topshop expansion and the original 1960's section will remain!

Topshop IS getting a facelift, though the existing structure will remain and be extended. However I am 99% it will look nothing like it does today.

The model looks out of date as it doesn't feature the restaurants on the roof area behind the Trinity church.

The model was built by Pipers about a year ago so it's likely to be slightly different to the finished article.

Looking at the model it seems as though the cinema is 1/3 complete and will extend to the northern enterence ( back of M and S). Has there been any renders of the enterence from the street where wilkos is (albion St). Seems like there is a lot of steel still to go up once they have finished the remaining demolishion.

It looks like a total rip off of Cabot circus.

It looks like a total rip off of Cabot circus.
Except much better.;)

It looks like a total rip off of Cabot circus.

They're both owned by Land Securities and were both conceived around the same time, no f'ing surprise they look similar.

Trinity Leeds was also originally going to have an even more impressive roof by Enric Miralles, but LandSec cut it back and will now replace it with a Cabot-a-like.

Be a proud Bristolian that LandSec like the Cabot roof so much they're using it again :)

It looks like a total rip off of Cabot circus.

To be fair, Trinity has been on the cards since 1999 in one form or another.


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http://tragwerksplaner.net/picture/115_trinity/prj_115-trinity_Bild1.jpg

I'm actually glad It didn't turn out like that.

I'm actually glad It didn't turn out like that.

Yeah, it would not have aged well!

It appears very similar to the new shopping centre in Belfast too, is it the same developers behind it?

It appears very similar to the new shopping centre in Belfast too, is it the same developers behind it?

Land Securities are the developer (and for Cabot Circus).

Apparently Victoria Square in Belfast was developed by Multi Developments UK (never heard of them!)...

Looks similarly nice though:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45640000/jpg/_45640980_belfast_victoria_square.jpg

http://www.alexanderkirkegaard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Victoria-Square.jpg

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http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/158208-leading-retailer-signs-up-for-trinity-leeds.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Yorkshire_21st_Apr_2011_-_Daily_E-mail
Leading retailer signs up for Trinity Leeds
21st April 2011
By Ian Briggs - Deputy Editor, Yorkshire

LEADING high street retailer Primark is to take 90,000 sq ft of space at the Trinity Leeds shopping centre.

The news of the store comes as developer Hammerson submits a planning application to power part of its Eastgage Quarters scheme in the city with a Low Carbon Energy Centre (LCEC).

Developer Land Securities has revealed that Primark will be the fashion retailer to open the biggest store in the Trinity Leeds retail scheme.

The deal will bring 240 jobs to the 1m sq ft shopping and leisure destination, which is set to open in 2013.

Andrew Dudley, of Land Securities, who is heading the landmark £350m development, said: “There’s a real sense of excitement in the city about the Trinity Leeds development and its investment in Leeds.

"You can already see that it is transforming the city and people are eagerly awaiting the opening. Primark’s new store has just increased the anticipation."

Meanwhile, Hammerson has submitted plans for the LCEC which aims to provide a "sustainable energy infrastructure" at its site.

The LCEC would generate sustainable, low carbon heating, cooling and power required by the scheme and neighbouring homes and businesses.

It is hoped that the LCEC would significantly reduce long-term utility costs.

Designed by ACME, the LCEC will enable neighbouring sites and buildings to connect to a community heating and power network, which will be compatible with many forms of renewable energy.

Heat, as well as energy, generated in the process will be fed back to provide heating and cooling, to new and existing developments in the local area. This heat will be supplemented by additional on-site production utilising biomass and renewable fuels.

Joe Swindells, development manager for Hammerson, said: “The addition of a Low Carbon Energy Centre should be a welcome sight in the city centre, not only is the building design a great compliment to the proposed Eastgate scheme, it will benefit the surrounding area and community whilst helping Leeds City Council meet its aims to see a 60% reduction in emissions by 2020.”

The £600m Eastgate scheme will transform a 6.9 hectare brownfield site in the city. A revised planning application for the mixed-use scheme was submitted last month.

Leeds gets a lift as Primark bags Trinity shop
Primark has agreed a deal to open a major store at Land Securities' new shopping centre in Leeds in a vote of confidence in the UK economy outside London.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01877/primark-leeds_1877871c.jpg

The fashion retailer has signed up for 90,000 sq ft of space at Trinity Leeds, which is due to open in spring 2013.

The deal is one of the biggest single commitments by a non-food retailer to new space outside London since the recession.

Consumers across the UK are being squeezed by tax rises and cuts to public sector jobs in UK regions, which London has been partly sheltered from by tourists.

However, regional retail centres have performed robustly and cash-rich retailers are snapping up space in out-of-town schemes and city high streets.

Trinity Leeds is the only major retail development to have been launched since the recession and the 1m sq ft project is 58pc let or in solicitors' hands two years ahead of completion, despite economic uncertainty.

Other retailers to have signed up include Arcadia and Marks & Spencer. Primark will account for about 9pc of the retail space and be one of the anchors of the scheme.

Richard Akers, Land Securities managing director for retail, said: "There's a real sense of excitement in the city about the Trinity Leeds development and its investment in Leeds. You can already see that it is transforming the city and people are eagerly awaiting the opening. Primark's new store has just increased the anticipation.

"The store will attract many shoppers from across Yorkshire and further afield. And it's another milestone for the project and a real demonstration of our strong relationship with Primark."

Based on how busy the existing Primark on The Headrow is, I guess the Trinity unit is an addition to rather than a replacement to the existing store.

Yes I expect so- I can't imagine they'd close that one. There's easily enough demand for two anyway.

I really like the look of that Primark store with the glass frontage, I wonder if Boar Lane will get more footfall from Trinity?

I don't think footfall will be greatly increased on most of Boar Lane as it's still on the fringe of the retail area, and still has the station at the SW corner of the site. The only area where footfall may significantly increase is perhaps between Albion Street and the new entrance outside Holy Trinity.

I don't think footfall will be greatly increased on most of Boar Lane as it's still on the fringe of the retail area, and still has the station at the SW corner of the site. The only area where footfall may significantly increase is perhaps between Albion Street and the new entrance outside Holy Trinity.

I'd have assumed footfall will be a bit better what with the tunnel going and a number of glass fronted stores taking its place. You can tell there's a number of people who right now who will happily take their chances with the buses by walking on the thin footpath outside the shelters or on the road itself, than walk through the dank tunnel.

Yes I think there will be a slight increase in footfall but I don't think it will be significant. It's already a busy thoroughfare, so I'd say an increase in footfall here would be in line with a general increase in footfall across the City Centre in 2013.

This is very good news for Trinity West. I was a little dubious whether it might fall by the wayside, given the amount of fantastic new space to be available in Trinity East, but this looks like it is full steam ahead...

Also not sure that there is an entrance to Primark on the corner there - looks like BHS is to remain, so perhaps Primark accessible from inside the centre?

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01877/primark-leeds_1877871c.jpg

That's pretty swish I have to say! Although, I wish it was something other than a Primark, but still - beggars can't be choosers.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01877/primark-leeds_1877871c.jpg


I'm glad to finally see this render in colour, looks pretty decent. The old cladding remaining on the side facing Sky Plaza is a big let-down though, there is still a chance that it is replaced but I doubt it.

On the note of Primark- Although yes there is considerable demand for both stores I would prefer it if Primark on the Headrow closed to allow a new store to open. Perhaps something similar to John Lewis? Or some kind of department store (Selfridges).

Well we had all speculated that Primark would have opened here after renders were produced clearly depicting Primark, with an entrance on Albion Street. Don't know if that requires major changes to the layout BHS though?

That unit isn't large enough for a department store so I doubt that will happen. As most stores like that are not expanding at the moment I do not see it as desirable for Primark to close on The Headrow, leaving an empty unit.

I'm not bothered which store takes the space aslong as that awesome glass frontage remains.

And I'd also like to see the Primark on the Headrow close to be repalced by this one, the one on the Headrow is pretty small and awfully crowded during the day..

I'm glad to finally see this render in colour, looks pretty decent. The old cladding remaining on the side facing Sky Plaza is a big let-down though, there is still a chance that it is replaced but I doubt it.

Sky plaza? :shifty: wtf


Ps You obvously know fuck all about Leeds.

Sky plaza? :shifty: wtf

Calm down, he clearly just meant Park Plaza.

Sky plaza? :shifty: wtf


Ps You obvously know fuck all about Leeds.

He may of meant Plaza Hotel?...

Calm down, he clearly just meant Park Plaza.

I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine.

Good news about the new Primark and at least it improves the appearance of the Bond Street Centre from Boar Lane. Presumably it is taking up the retail space formerly occupied by the likes of TK Maxx, Mothercare and Internacionale? As for vacating their present store at the Odeon cinema isn't Primark a popular enough store to sustain two stores anyway? Which of the existing Primark at the old Odeon or the new store at the Trinity Centre will be bigger considering the 90,000 sq ft of their new store?

As for increasing footfall on Boar Lane surely that would be likely as a consequence of this scheme considering Trinity will be one of the first shopping centres you encounter upon leaving Leeds station and I believe Next will be oppupying a flagship unit at the former C&A / Next Clearance site on Boar Lane. Wonder if it could mean currently vacant units at the likes of the former Multiyork furniture shop and Bar Sensa could see new decent retailers open within them as a result of Trinity with other occupied units perhaps being converted?

That's pretty swish I have to say!

Sorry to be a doom-monger but Trinity East sucks lemons.

It's the same tired 1970s mall I knew as a kid with a few grey plastic fins and a wall of anywhere glass. This is not the statement building Leeds requires for one of the main transport entry points into the city.


btw, I just remembered buying a Global Hypercolour t-shirt in the Bond Street Centre BHS back in the late '80s/early '90s. I might try and bring those back.

http://www.widemedia.com/fashionuk/fashion/junk_science/hypercolour.jpg

Sorry to be a doom-monger but Trinity East sucks lemons.

It's the same tired 1970s mall I knew as a kid with a few grey plastic fins and a wall of anywhere glass.[/IMG]

Except it will be totally refurbished inside and out, and won't look anything like it does today.

It's fine, there's not much else they can do with it, except knock it down, and it will be a massive improvment to what's there. When people walk from City Station to City Square, and down Boar Lane, they will see the large glass frontage instead of that hulking bulk of ugly crap and (hopefully) give them a positive view of Leeds.

Except it will be totally refurbished inside and out, and won't look anything like it does today.

It's fine, there's not much else they can do with it, except knock it down, and it will be a massive improvment to what's there. When people walk from City Station to City Square, and down Boar Lane, they will see the large glass frontage instead of that hulking bulk of ugly crap and (hopefully) give them a positive view of Leeds.


But that's why I think it sucks. People will see the same ugly bulk but with a few minor embellishments. Ok, it's a little bit better, but it would have been nice to see something slightly more imaginative.

Unfortunately, Trinity West and Trinity East were once seperate developments but are now being lumped together as the same. They were never designed to complement each other.

di Livio, you mean Trinity West I assume?

I agree though. I am so far not impressed with Trinity West, but I suppose I'm happy to see something happen with it rather than nothing. The glass frontage is an improvement, but of course the problem is that this is just another piecemeal renovation when really the answer is to demolish and start from scratch- which is why Trinity East is going to be miles better.

Aaron, why would it be good for Primark The Headrow to close? How does that make sense? Two Primarks would spread the demand more evenly. If it's crowded now, the answer isn't to close it because then the other will just be more crowded. Primark is a good anchor at a major junction- an anchor that was majorly missed while it was an empty unit.

Unfortunately, Trinity West and Trinity East were once seperate developments but are now being lumped together as the same. They were never designed to complement each other.

Agree.

I commented before that the Council shouldn't have accepted the refurbishment of Plaza shopping centre. Accepted the main trinity scheme and allowed another developer to take over, or at least demand a better finish.
Overall the proposed refurbishment is a mess. Far too much of the old cladding remains, even the side on Boar Lane remains from around 3rd storey up. No elements should remain, and I'm suspicious whether the current glass frontage on BHS entrance is actually going too. By the looks of it the partition seperating BHS/Primark is only there because the BHS frontage will stay the same.

Alright then, it's settled, Trinity is rubbish, Leeds is rubbish, there's nothing decent about it, so let's all pack up and leave since everything in Leeds is rubbish... hm? Quit being so sour, it's really irritating. BE thankful this even got off the ground because it could have been another Westfield and the Bond Street Centre could have remained the same, at least some improvmnets are being made, rather than none at all.. bloody hell.. >(

Rant over.. I feel much better ..as you were :hug:

Does anybody actually use the Plaza to shop, or is it just a walkthrough. For me they could get rid of the Plaza as well as the St Johns Centre [ another walkthrough ] and turn The Core back to its origins as a Department Store.

Alright then, it's settled, Trinity is rubbish, Leeds is rubbish, there's nothing decent about it, so let's all pack up and leave since everything in Leeds is rubbish... hm? Quit being so sour, it's really irritating. BE thankful this even got off the ground because it could have been another Westfield and the Bond Street Centre could have remained the same, at least some improvmnets are being made, rather than none at all.. bloody hell.. >(

The point I was making was that Leeds needs something more impressive than is currently being offered by LandSec. If you're going to re-clad it, yes, go ahead but make it a high quality re-clad.

What we're seeing with Trinity West is rather like the mania for glass porches in Leeds office buildings.
You keep the same miserable '70s/'80s building but pathetically jazz it up with a tacky 'modern' addition.

http://www.cityoffices.net/site/images/projectimages/leeds/LeedsDSCF0184Small.jpg

I think people did, but the concept of shopping centres in that sense is dead. They are no longer seen as attractive by retailers or the consumer. It's all about streets and open spaces, or creating those indoors (like with Trinity East).

It's been a few weeks since we saw any pictures from around this development. I took these on Wednesday


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http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/business-news/primark_the_latest_to_move_into_trinity_leeds_1_3313238

'A spokeswoman for Associated British Foods, the Primark owner, said its other two Leeds stores, in the White Rose shopping centre and the Headrow, will remain trading as normal.'

'unconfirmed reports that Apple is set to sign up.' (perhaps those unconfirmed reports are from here?)

Great photos. Briggate is starting to feel more continuous already.

Some good information to be found on there. The interesting one is the plan they have for the shops.

It has finally answered the question of where is the Apple shop going to be!


http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/phillh79/SSC/plan.jpg

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3 posts in 1 minute all mentioning the apple store!

Doesn't the store plan uploaded by Leeds Designer last December show the location of this Apple store next door to a Hollister?

Yeah but they haven't actually signed up have they? Or if they have, it is being kept under wraps. If you remember, that plan was soon taken down and replaced by a much less detailed plan now available on their website; one which didn't show Apple.

Even if Apple never signed anything to make it official, the fact they are interested in Leeds is a good sign. Sure we will see a store pop up somewhere, even if it isn't in Trinity, amazes me we haven't got one already!

The point I was making was that Leeds needs something more impressive than is currently being offered by LandSec. If you're going to re-clad it, yes, go ahead but make it a high quality re-clad.

What we're seeing with Trinity West is rather like the mania for glass porches in Leeds office buildings.
You keep the same miserable '70s/'80s building but pathetically jazz it up with a tacky 'modern' addition.

http://www.cityoffices.net/site/images/projectimages/leeds/LeedsDSCF0184Small.jpg

Ah, right, fair enough. Sorry for my outburst (if you can call it that), just me being a bad tempered fool and having a pounding headache!

I agree with you though, it would be better to knock it all down, but that picture you posted, i doubt it will look like that, the majority of Trinity West will look different then now.

It's been a few weeks since we saw any pictures from around this development. I took these on Wednesday


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/April%202011/P1010004.jpg

I was thinking it was about time for me to take a look and get some pics but no need now cos thats a comprehensive set of pics. You can really begin to see how this integrates into the existing and it looks good - lets hope the cladding is good enough as we have been let down many times in this respect on so many schemes.

Yeah but they haven't actually signed up have they? Or if they have, it is being kept under wraps. If you remember, that plan was soon taken down and replaced by a much less detailed plan now available on their website; one which didn't show Apple.

I don't think so, but Primark just signed up, so there's hope for Apple.

I don't think so, but Primark just signed up, so there's hope for Apple.

Unless they announce Apple as a tenant, the first we'll hear of it will be the same way most other Apple stores are announced - via the Apple Retail recruitment page: http://www.apple.com/jobs/uk/retail.html

Well I am pretty sure they will sign up to be honest. Leeds is by far the biggest gap in their UK market coverage. I'm surprised they hadn't already taken a unit in or near the Victoria Quarter; perhaps they're waiting for schemes like Trinity and Eastgate to be delivered.

I would guess nothing in VQ really fits into the Apple floor footprint. Borders unit is probably a fair bit too big for them, too. In a city the size of Leeds they would probably be looking to trade on a single floor. Trinity or Eastgate provide the layout Apple would want in Leeds. If they were desperate The Core would be an option. Apple would draw good foot fall, but they generally locate in high foot fall, conspicuous, areas. Their stores are primarily shrines/museums to all things apple, stores second.

I take it that PRIMARK is taking the area created on the current roof level of the Shopping Plaza? Looking at the PRIMARK render, it looks like all of the Boar Lane frontage will have a reclad. The entrance to the underpass looks set to become part of BHS and PRIMARK. Presumably BHS will get a refurbishment to the new fit-out as part of the works to for Trinity West, which will alter the store floor plan somewhat.

I always thought the former Envy, now Pandora, unit would have suited them. You're right that they are primarily shrines though.

I don't know about BHS, but yes Primark must be taking upper space as there was an application to add an extra storey for a 'major retailer' earlier in the year if you remember. We all speculated Primark then and voila.

Don't be fooled by the render- not all of the frontage will be reclad. Some will be, and the angle of the render makes it look quite good- but beyond that, the glass cuts off and it's brick again.

I was thinking it was about time for me to take a look and get some pics but no need now cos thats a comprehensive set of pics. You can really begin to see how this integrates into the existing and it looks good - lets hope the cladding is good enough as we have been let down many times in this respect on so many schemes.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/apm22/April%202011/P1010009.jpg

I can't help but think that rather than bringing the new build out to the road side in front of Trinity Church some open space would have been nicer. The front of the Church seems a bit hemmed in by the new construction. Pushing the new build back a little or tapering the front to 1 floor would have really opened up the space and made a nice feature to the entrance.

The EMBT design included a little bit of space behind the church for pavement cafes.


I'm expecting the cladding to look like Chapman Taylor's Arndale re-jig in Manchester.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4049838172_b3a2bf76b6.jpg

http://www.burofour.co.uk/uploads/casestudies/Trinity%20Leeds_Retail_3.jpg

I love that Next store in Manchester, so I'm not complaining. :)

I think the cladding quality will be a bit higher than that with more respect shown to the surrounding buildings on Boar Lane. The render shows a brick sort of layout rather than a grid like with the cladding on Next in Manchester.

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/859/new2.png

I sometimes have thought some more open space around Holy Trinity would have been welcome, but I also am looking forward to this building. I expect it will feel more open when all the hoardings and everything have been removed.

I think the cladding quality will be a bit higher than that with more respect shown to the surrounding buildings on Boar Lane. The render shows a brick sort of layout rather than a grid like with the cladding on Next in Manchester.

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/859/new2.png

I sometimes have thought some more open space around Holy Trinity would have been welcome, but I also am looking forward to this building. I expect it will feel more open when all the hoardings and everything have been removed.


As you can see from the render you posted, there is a fair amount more space at the west end of the church compared with what was there previously. Which is why the new Next building will have a much narrower frontage to Boar Lane than the horror that was the C & A store had.

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/37/2002813_57423037.jpg


di Livio mentioned the previous designs which were set further back from the north side of Holy Trinity Church. I remember seeing the model of the development and commenting on this feature. While it did open up access to the north side of the church, it looked as though it would be rather a sunless canyon and wouldn't have been a particularly attractive place to sit and sip your mojito.

http://webcam-leeds.stage.lldev.co.uk/webcam_processed.jpg

really happy with how this is looking. Hopefully we will get a proper refurb of the LSP at some point. Given it's the most obvious big development for people arriving into leeds it's a horrific welcome.

http://www.burofour.co.uk/uploads/casestudies/Trinity%20Leeds_Retail_3.jpg

I really like the exterior of the new Topshop. The only downside is it makes the River Island/ Entrance to Trinity look a bit crap.

really happy with how this is looking. Hopefully we will get a proper refurb of the LSP at some point. Given it's the most obvious big development for people arriving into leeds it's a horrific welcome.

Well we are getting a refurb, externally its a bit of botch-up with more emphasize on the exterior on ground floor rather that the entire building, which will by and large remain the same (At least around Boar Lane and the Side facing Park-Plaza Hotel).

It would be better if the entire building got a refurb, but the proposals are decent enough for now and I'm sure it will get an entire refurb in time.

really happy with how this is looking. Hopefully we will get a proper refurb of the LSP at some point. Given it's the most obvious big development for people arriving into leeds it's a horrific welcome.

A group of gnarled pissheads have taken to loitering around the bus underpass in recent times.

A group of gnarled pissheads have taken to loitering around the bus underpass in recent times.

It's also a known haunt for the homelss and stinks, I'll be happy to see the back off it.

It's also a known haunt for the homelss and stinks, I'll be happy to see the back off it.

I noticed last year that the underpass was pressure washed every few weeks during the summer to try and mitigate the odour. Hasn't been done for a while since though...

A group of gnarled pissheads have taken to loitering around the bus underpass in recent times.

Do your duty and move them on.

Do your duty and move them on.

do we not pay our council tax so the police will deal with scum like that?

Is Di Livio a bobby? :)

Di livio is the upholder of the Leeds City moral compass.

Di livio is the upholder of the Leeds City moral compass.

:lol: I am against lapdancing clubs, betting shops and speakeasies playing hot jazz.

The bus stops on the Boar Lane side of Trinity West close on May 1st. Doubt that's the day the underpass closes (as the remaining stores in the underpass don't seem to be closing yet), but it's not long away now.

The bus stops on the Boar Lane side of Trinity West close on May 1st. Doubt that's the day the underpass closes (as the remaining stores in the underpass don't seem to be closing yet), but it's not long away now.

The sooner the better. :okay:

The bus stops on the Boar Lane side of Trinity West close on May 1st. Doubt that's the day the underpass closes (as the remaining stores in the underpass don't seem to be closing yet), but it's not long away now.

I assume they'll want to build the pavement before they close the underpass? So I suppose it will be built in the time between May 1st and whenever the shops close.

Progress at Trinity in terms of the cinema. Not sure exactly what is going on (anyone know the technical terms/what specifically is being done?), but boxes have appeared on the top of the cinema, which is rapidly being roofed in something blue. Some sort of walls or something are also being built- can't make it out whether its steel poles or...? So as you can tell, I know absolutely nothing but can see progress is being made!

Progress at Trinity in terms of the cinema. Not sure exactly what is going on (anyone know the technical terms/what specifically is being done?), but boxes have appeared on the top of the cinema, which is rapidly being roofed in something blue. Some sort of walls or something are also being built- can't make it out whether its steel poles or...? So as you can tell, I know absolutely nothing but can see progress is being made!

The blue stuff is insulation, and yes they are part of the walls, that's steel framing for the cladding and boarding to be attached to.


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Thought it might be. Didn't want to look stupid taking a guess.

I can see there is a small upwards extension being built ontop of Topshop. Anyone know what this is for? Storage space?

Are they not extending the existing store?

Well yes but I had assumed it would be on the same level. The upwards extension looks quite small- too small to be any meaningful selling space. It's also a lower height than the other floors I think.

Well yes but I had assumed it would be on the same level. The upwards extension looks quite small- too small to be any meaningful selling space. It's also a lower height than the other floors I think.

are they relocating/ adding lifts perhaps? or just coverage for new AC units

Oh right yes perhaps; that would make more sense.

I haven't see the web cam in a while, but the size, shape and scope are becoming increasingly clear. I have to say I like what I see. I assume that this development will see similar finishes and roof as seen at Cabbott Circus in Bristol, which I was quite impressed with last weekend. That development interacts really well with the rest of the retail core and hopefully Trinity will do similar.

I still believe Trinity West will make or break this scheme in the long term. LandSec actually did quite a nice job refurbishing the buildings around that development, not huge jobs, most of the original fabric was left, but new glassing and shopfronts really modernized the buildings. If they can pull a similar result off with trinity west, it will be quite successful. Im glad to see Primark have taken an anchor position in trinity west, that has transformed the fortunes of this part of the development, IMHO. While it may not be John Lewis, Armani, etc this will eliminate the issue of tricky floor plans and potentially weak foot-fall in this area of the centre.

http://locateinleeds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Trinity-Leeds-Primark.jpg

The underpass has been cleared of all street furniture, and work has begun on preparing for the new footpath :)

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Can someone answer me please, is the Everyman cinema going to be extended even further onto the M&S loading bay?

Trinity will take up that space also, but don't know if it's cinema space or retail space.

Trinity will take up that space also, but don't know if it's cinema space or retail space.

THANK YOU!

I always got the impression that the cinema was going to be alot larger than that for some reason, could be wrong though.

THANK YOU!

I always got the impression that the cinema was going to be alot larger than that for some reason, could be wrong though.

The cinema will extend both to the North and West of its current position, what is there now is only a third of the cinemas finished product.

Does anyone know why Trinity East and West seems to have escaped the council mandate of 20% of development space being Public Realm? Or am missing something?

Perhaps it was something to do with when planning permission was granted.

Whatever the reason, I'm glad. I don't think any of the Trinity site would have been suitable to accommodate public space in the region of 20%.

Is that a clause for all projects? If so, it's ridiculous. It makes sense for things like Eastgate, but clearly many developments are just not suited to public space.

Perhaps it was something to do with when planning permission was granted.

Whatever the reason, I'm glad. I don't think any of the Trinity site would have been suitable to accommodate public space in the region of 20%.

Is that a clause for all projects? If so, it's ridiculous. It makes sense for things like Eastgate, but clearly many developments are just not suited to public space.

I was about to say that in comparison The Light doesn't particularly have 20% public space (there is that little square of land round the back, although with the complex being open for roughly 18 hours a day it could be argued it's public space on private property, I wonder if the same could be argued for Trinity East what with the late opening restaurants and the Everyman Cinema).

Could be because Trinity constitutes a redevelopment of existing space?

http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/yorkshire/52604-spring-start-trinity-land-sec/
Spring start for Trinity - Land Sec
Last updated: Wed 18th May, 2011 | Time: 08:12am

The £350m Trinity Leeds development is expected to open in March 2013, developer Land Securities confirmed this morning. It also added that the scheme is now 57.5 per cent pre-let or contracts are in solicitors' hands.

The 816,980 sq ft development already has confirmed occupants including Marks & Spencer, BHS, H&M, Boots, Primark, Topshop/Topman, River Island, Next, Hollister and Cult, Land Securities said.

The company said in its annual results statement today: "Our Trinity Leeds scheme was the only large retail development project to start on site across the UK during the year.

"Our decision to restart construction at Trinity Leeds reflects the quality of the site - which is in a prime position in a top five city - and our success on pre-lettings. Having reached a level of over 40 per cent before committing to build, we now have 53 per cent pre-let and 4.5 per cent in solicitors' hands, by income.

"Construction work commenced in July 2010 and the scheme is due to open in March 2013."

Elsewhere, Land Securities said "major retail development activity came to a standstill through the downturn" with no major new shopping centre expected to be completed in the UK during 2012 - the first time this has happened for 40 years.

Talking further about Trinity Leeds, the developer said: "It represents the single largest retail development commitment in the UK by a real estate investment trust (REIT) since the financial downturn.

"We secured pre-lettings of over 40 per cent before restarting construction on Trinity Leeds, so that we were effectively investing in Leeds shoulder to shoulder with a number of key retailers.

"Confidence in Leeds as a trading location, together with our excellent relationships with retailers, mean we have made further progress on lettings."

Overall, Land Securities reported a pre-tax profit of £1.227bn for the year ended 31 March 2011 - this was up 14.8 per cent on the previous year's figure of £1.069bn. Group revenue fell from £833.4m to £701.9m.

Whatever happened to the Apple store being a confirmed a tenant of the scheme? Sure that was mentioned a while back? You'd think it would get mentioned in the list...

Whatever happened to the Apple store being a confirmed a tenant of the scheme? Sure that was mentioned a while back? You'd think it would get mentioned in the list...

It's always been a rumour, Apple don't announce store launches until very close to opening, so the best way of knowing they're coming to Leeds is checking the Apple Retail jobs board on apple.com

It's assumed they will open in Trinity as Leeds is the biggest city in the UK without an Apple Store, and they have opened stores in previous Land Securities developments.

It was mentioned because it was on the original CGI map. It was never confirmed in a press release or anything though, but my suspicion is that they will be quick to open in suitable space in the city. I would prefer them to open in a historic building though to be honest- one with more character. The Regent Street store is unique; stores in shopping centres are just generic.

Like has been said Apple are notoriously secreative about their future store openings, they only confirm the store opening the week before, usually the store openings are on Saturdays or the day that a new mall opens.

Apple stores in historic buildings though are very rare as they are usually the flagship stores, there are only three stores in historic buildings in the UK, they are in Glasgow and two in London, one on Regent Street and the most recent in Covent Garden that opened last, which is the biggest Apple store in the UK. It is very doubtfull Apple will open in a historic building outside of London, their next rumoured store in a historic building is in Edinburgh.

Here is the letting plan revealing Apple.

http://www.ifoapplestore.com/photos/trinityleeds_plan.jpg

I didn't think this building was going to get redeveloped?

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It's the Squares (formerly Square on the Lane) pub building. It certainly isn't going to be rebuilt (I hope) although apparently it is up on the Estates Gazette website so maybe it is either a case of Squares selling up or the owners of that building wanting someone else to open in its place. http://www.estatesgazette.com/propertylink/advert/square_boar_lane_leeds-leeds-3269171.htm

Interesting development (although hopefully not a redevelopment). I've thought for a long time that this building was wasted as a dodgy 1990s style bar. With Trinity pushing Leeds retail down to Boar Lane, it makes sense to do to the Squares building what Primark did for the old Leeds Odeon. It could be a major change of use for that end of town.

The escalator at the bottom of Albion Street is currently being taken down.

If anyone can get a mini into that skip over the weekend I'll give them a tenner....

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It's the Squares (formerly Square on the Lane) pub building. It certainly isn't going to be rebuilt (I hope) although apparently it is up on the Estates Gazette website so maybe it is either a case of Squares selling up or the owners of that building wanting someone else to open in its place. http://www.estatesgazette.com/propertylink/advert/square_boar_lane_leeds-leeds-3269171.htm


That's interesting. I noticed (think I may have reported it on here) that these buildings are up for sale. They got a bit of a sprucing up years ago when Square on the Lane (as it then was) was under development but they could do with a more thorough restoration as they're a fine range of buildings.

Nice to see that that building is earmarked for redevelopment. Boar Lane is certainly deserving of better quality names. I just hope it doesn't turn into some Betfred or Poundland.

Nice to see that that building is earmarked for redevelopment. Boar Lane is certainly deserving of better quality names. I just hope it doesn't turn into some Betfred or Poundland.

I'm fairly certain the property company signs on the building state something like 'Ground floor/Businesses unaffected', so I think the redevelopment here is simply going to be a case of making use of the currently unused upper floors (as offices or flats), which fingers crossed means an external restoration is on the cards. EDIT: Having read the link above, only Caffe Nero may be unaffected by this.

Not sure how popular Squares is any more so it'll be interesting if to see if it remains in its current format or is replaced by a different business.

I just hope it doesn't turn into some Betfred or Poundland.

Or how about this double whammy?

http://lds.localdataimages.com/large/1065/10658972.jpg

Horrible.

:lol:


A photo of the escalator demolition. How exciting.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cliffordstead/5733264979/sizes/l/in/photostream/

As much as those escalators need to go, I will miss them! I don't feel I made the most of my last trip on those :(

As much as those escalators need to go, I will miss them! I don't feel I made the most of my last trip on those :(

Did you feel the same about the escalators in The Headrow Shopping Centre No 1.

I did about that ridiculous long and narrow one to the Food Court. Otherwise, no.

As much as those escalators need to go, I will miss them! I don't feel I made the most of my last trip on those :(

I remember the excitement of them opening. So avante-garde.

Love the building where Squares is now. I rememember it when it was black, filthy and empty, like all of Boar Lane back then.

The cranes are very active this morning, lifting new escalators into Trinity East!!

Saw another one being unloaded in the afternoon as well.

Any chance of Selfridges moving in here? :nuts:

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To Square or Holy Trinity?!

To Square or Holy Trinity?!


:) The caption to the Square photo mentions the forthcoming 'redevelopment'.

I'd love to see a bigger store unit on Boar Lane, but maybe Selfridges is pushing it.

I would prefer Selfridges in the city rather than John Lewis, not too bowled over by J.L stores can't see much of a difference/improvement between them and Debenhams. Although from all I read John Lewis is a mighty fine company to work for.

Although from all I read John Lewis is a mighty fine company to work for.

oh yes, if you work for JL you're not an employee, you're a partner in the business. some friends back home who work there got something insane like 6 weeks worth of wages as their annual bonus!! :shocked:

Yes it would be a good boost for Leeds city centre both for employment and quality of shopping when the John Lewis opens. You can't compare John Lewis to Debenhams when it comes to service by their staff/partners.

:) The caption to the Square photo mentions the forthcoming 'redevelopment'.

I'd love to see a bigger store unit on Boar Lane, but maybe Selfridges is pushing it.

I often have fantasies of Boar Lane being occupied by up-market stores such as Selfridges and Harrods. One can dream. :)

I often have fantasies of Boar Lane being occupied by up-market stores such as Selfridges and Harrods. One can dream. :)

You need to get a life Aaron!!