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crush2000
August 3rd, 2005, 08:12 PM
lastest from the Basin
http://tinypic.com/9ux387.jpg
highriser
August 3rd, 2005, 11:25 PM
just noticed ,what the fuck is going on ,on that bit of land next to the little white house?
Great pic Crush
Griff
August 3rd, 2005, 11:28 PM
Isn't that that art installation thingy? Lots of tables of various sizes with grass on them, or something...
Yes, it is. Here you go: http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/articles/2005/07/29/030805_urban_oasis_feature.shtml
highriser
August 3rd, 2005, 11:32 PM
cheers griff 'i'll have a nosey at that tomorrow :)
Craig
August 4th, 2005, 11:18 AM
Its the Hoegaarden Urban Oasis by Subversive Architecture www.urbanoasisuk.com and its only around for 1 week so get in there sink some cloudy beer and get a free shoulder massage.
rolybling
August 4th, 2005, 05:25 PM
..edited
highriser
August 5th, 2005, 04:27 PM
Issa Quay is shooting up now
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/mancpicaug012.jpg
This building will look great when done up,,
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/mancpicaug011.jpg
Had a better look at the Sarah Tower site, and yes its being dug up,,,
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/mancpicaug001.jpg
highriser
August 16th, 2005, 06:45 PM
Issa Quay coming nicely,,,and while i was around here,the Sarah tower is getting very busy now,
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/mancpics15thaug015.jpg
andyains
August 16th, 2005, 07:50 PM
This building will look great when done up,,
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/mancpicaug011.jpg
I've always liked this one. There's something about it, well proportioned, big art-deco-ey type windows and the curved corner. Who's doing it up and what's it gonna be, flats?
ferge
August 16th, 2005, 11:16 PM
I think it would suit many colours of glass in those little windows, scattered about.. a few blues/greens/yellows and reds all giving it some quirky affect :)
So Sarah is DEFO bein built? :S:S
andyains
August 16th, 2005, 11:25 PM
I think it would suit many colours of glass in those little windows, scattered about.. a few blues/greens/yellows and reds all giving it some quirky affect :)
I'm digging that idea, ferge. You can kinda see a similar effect with the way the light is reflecting from the windows in the picture
highriser
August 16th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Andy that building in the basin your on about,im not exactly sure whats going on with it,a company called Magull (i think) are refurbing it,with those 2 lovely warehouses that front onto Dale St,all part of the same development i think.
Ferge fuck knows about Sarah tower ,but a huge hole is on that site now,with a lot of activity going on
andyains
August 16th, 2005, 11:31 PM
Cheers, dave. Will see what I can find out
highriser
August 16th, 2005, 11:36 PM
ive tried to find things out about this Magull company,but fail,,they also have the lovely building inbetween Victoria Station and Urbis...hope you enjoyed your hols :)
caw123
August 16th, 2005, 11:40 PM
Seems Sarah Tower is going up. Didn't expect it so soon, if at all. BSC have it on their site, someone has taken the website name www.sarahtower.com, and there is a huge hole on site. Didn't even know there was full permission for a tower there.
BSC must be getting some pennies in the bank, what with IQ, Sarah and Gt Ancoats on the go.
andyains
August 16th, 2005, 11:44 PM
You're right, there doesn't seem to be any information about them apart from contact details.
Had a lovely break. Thanks for asking
highriser
August 17th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Andy that company we were on about last night,it's Maghull , not Magull still cant find fuck all though :bash:
andyains
August 17th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Yeah, I stuck the 'h' in anyway coz my father-in-law is from Maghull but still no joy. ne'er mind eh? I'm sure someone will know what's going on and let us know in the near future
jrb
August 22nd, 2005, 05:30 PM
Taken yesterday!
Yep! Thats right, there fishing!
Note the JCB, where Sarah tower is planned?
I do like this one!:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture016.jpg
highriser
August 22nd, 2005, 09:20 PM
That pic should be totally different this time next year ,with Sarah tower and that Architect's HQ (forgot there name) next to Issa Quay
SleepyOne
August 24th, 2005, 11:12 PM
Thanks dgnr8 for what is for me, among one of the most interesting posts of the last few weeks.
http://www.dmdurban.ie/chapelton.html
I love to see images of exciting masterplans - especially ones that promise to utterly transform a non descript, derelict bit of wasteland such as this.
I never realised how large this piece of land is and what potential it holds what with Piccadilly Station on one side, Mancunian Way on the other (sweeping down from its elevated section) and the river Irwell running through the centre there.
If this bit of land is developed as it promises to be in those images I will be delighted. Piccadilly has seen so many examples of poor quality, smallscale and piecemeal development... its about time somebody took a large piece of land and proposed something of the scale and ambition of Spinningfields, say.
I wonder who the land owners / developers might be here?
http://www.dmdurban.ie/images/chapelton.jpg
"Chapelton", Manchester, UK
Mixed use framework plan for c. 35 acres of currently rundown industrial space sandwiched between the main [Piccadilly] Station and the Mancunian Way inner distributor route.
The plan sought to link the area back to its hinterland and to capitalise on its highly strategic location adjacent to Manchester’s primary train station. Proposed uses include a significant element of new office and business space, hugging the Mancunian Way with a residential core focused on a new river corridor along the river Medlock
highriser
August 25th, 2005, 12:03 AM
Sleepy im a bit confused about that link,,,its says between Victoria and Manc Way not Piccadilly,,,,and ive not heard of Chapleton,,is this a new area thats going to be created?
dj
August 25th, 2005, 01:30 AM
Still find it hard to get excited about a project where they can't be bothered to get the sodding station names right, with that level of attention to detail I doubt it will ever see the light of day.
frozenmusic
August 25th, 2005, 01:39 AM
Indeed, tis picadilly station highriser, think star and garter land. They'll have to shift all the prostitutes out first.
Oh, and good luck with the interview mate.
highriser
August 25th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Cheers matey:) if i dont get something soon,i'll be joining the hookers around the star and garter :)
rolybling
August 25th, 2005, 12:29 PM
..edited
ForeverSalfordRed
August 25th, 2005, 02:44 PM
What does Sarah Tower look like, is she nice? :D
Manc Guy
August 25th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Sarah Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&stype=1&thumb=1&si=<b30348>)
I dont think its half bad you know....Fact i quite like it....
highriser
August 29th, 2005, 06:46 PM
These crappy buildings on Ducie St are getting demolished,does anyone know anything about it?
just behind them is the IVLA site,its quite a big area
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/28aug001.jpg
highriser
September 6th, 2005, 05:29 PM
ISSA Quay today
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/6september009.jpg
highriser
September 9th, 2005, 07:35 PM
Went past the Sarah Tower site,and its definatly not being used as a store for Issa Quay, a huge hole is now there,
caw123
September 9th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Yep, thought the same. Proper hoardings up and everything. Several diggers busy at work for weeks now, why would they do this to store some a bit of steel and rebar?
highriser
September 9th, 2005, 07:51 PM
oh i nearly forgot,a huge billboard ad been put up in between the carpark arch and Issa quay, advertizing a new office HQ in the basin ,,sounds interesting
SleepyOne
September 9th, 2005, 09:05 PM
Is this the fabulous BDP prelet block or are they advertising the other plots?
crush2000
September 12th, 2005, 06:45 PM
today from gateway
http://tinypic.com/dnj9nc.jpg
SleepyOne
September 12th, 2005, 08:52 PM
EDIT repeat post
SleepyOne
September 12th, 2005, 08:52 PM
thanks Crush. Well that pretty much confirms action on the Sarah Tower site.
Anyone else noticed that the vile Rail House, in between the Eastgate site and Piccadilly Station is getting a new coat of grey paint. Sadly not for the chop any time soon, so it would seem. :(
caw123
September 12th, 2005, 08:57 PM
Yeah I was dissapointed to see it half painted grey last week. Not the most offensive building, but the site is perfect for a nice big friend for Eastgate IMO.
Ta for the photos Crush, highriser.
highriser
September 16th, 2005, 07:29 PM
2 billboards have gone up in the basin for a couple of future developments,with new renders.
Piccadilly is really coming on now in the developments stakes :)
The BDP HQ
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/16sept005.jpg
Ana Eider House
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/16sept004.jpg
And here one of the multi storey while i was around there
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/16sept002.jpg
rolybling
September 16th, 2005, 11:11 PM
..edited
dgnr8
September 17th, 2005, 01:08 AM
Eider House has been touched up. Which is good because before it was a perfect copy (albeit in glass) of Brum's The Foyer (another ISA building).
Looks alright. Obviously can't tell much from there mind. Main changes seem to be the addition of a few angles and what I'm not sure, but looking at that billboard render, it appears it's now kind of horseshoe shaped. Which given the shape of the plot, strikes me as very odd. The building to the rear of that billboard render can't be the BDP HQ or Issa Quay, surely?
jrb
September 25th, 2005, 08:44 PM
Brownsfield Mill to be redeveloped!
Brownsfield Mill – an exciting new development on the Piccadilly Basin site.
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_3642.jpg
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_3629.jpg
Probably been seen before! I'll find out soon enough! :) :runaway:
Development Activities
We have now obtained detailed planning consent for two of our office scheme proposals at Piccadilly Basin Manchester. A new build four-storey office comprising 90k sq ft together with basement car parking for 100 cars and alterations to Carvers warehouse a grade 2 listed building to provide 24k sq ft with 12 car parking spaces.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/pic1b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/pic2b.jpg
vertigosufferer
September 25th, 2005, 08:49 PM
That render looks more than a redevelopement, are you sure it's not going to be knocked down and rebuilt? Nice looking building though ;)
caw123
September 25th, 2005, 08:55 PM
Not sure if you're joking or not VS? :?
It's two different developments.
vertigosufferer
September 25th, 2005, 09:46 PM
'course - I should have taken more time reading it, instead of just looking at the pretty pictures. :| Always been a fault of mine, sometimes.
Farsight
September 25th, 2005, 10:05 PM
Is this piece of old shit going then?
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_3642.jpg
I like this. Yeah sure it's lowrise, but it looks real elegant.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/pic1b.jpg
jrb
September 25th, 2005, 10:10 PM
Is this piece of old shit going then?
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_3642.jpg
I like this. Yeah sure it's lowrise, but it looks real elegant.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/pic1b.jpg
Farsight! :bash:
Rule one!
You don't destroy your heritage!
Two reasons! Your children and tourists!
please don't apply for leader of the council!
Jongeman
September 25th, 2005, 10:31 PM
When they do the old shit up Farsight, the results can be spectacular IMO. And the best, most solid bits of our heritage need lauding (almost!)
How bland would Manchester be if all the original Victorian stuff was pulled down?
Farsight
September 25th, 2005, 11:15 PM
jrb and jongey: I like some of the original Victorian stuff. There's some beautiful, ornate, gorgeous buildings. But the above ain't one of them. It's a plain cheap brick box, the shed of its day.
Let's aim to keep the best of yesteryear, not all of it.
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/ic8/73tnm.jpg
Mez
September 25th, 2005, 11:27 PM
The assize courts were fantastic from what ive seem in pictures. Shame Hitler didnt like them.
Though I believe he wanted the Midland as a Nazi HQ. (Should have put that in useless statistics)
Farsight
September 25th, 2005, 11:32 PM
They're even better since they were done up mez. I'll see if I can find another picture. Ah. Here we go:
http://lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/crowncourtminshull.jpg
Sir Miles Platting
September 26th, 2005, 02:11 AM
[QUOTE=Farsight]jrb and jongey: I like some of the original Victorian stuff. There's some beautiful, ornate, gorgeous buildings. But the above ain't one of them. It's a plain cheap brick box, the shed of its day.
Let's aim to keep the best of yesteryear, not all of it.
I'm in your corner on this one Farsight. I was brought up surrounded by cotton mills, paper mills, satanic mills all belching out smog-producing, lung-clogging pollution. There's nothing remotely 'romantic' or 'quaint' about these evil edifices. If they could talk they would tell you their true history, a history that isn't taught (with any credibility) in the schools of Britain. They would tell you of a slavery that included young children and their mams and dads working 16 hour days to (barely) make ends meet only to go home to their hovels which were also owned by the mill-owners.
Most of these hideous-looking blights on the landscape have thankfully been razed, but in the interest of historical reminders we have to retain some of them. There are some that are so well-built (ie with glazed or Accrington Red brick) they should be spared the wrecking-ball, whether they're converted into apartments or museums is of no consequence to me.
They are haunted and you wouldn't get me in one for bobbins...... .....
Jongeman
September 26th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Think we'll all have to disagree on this one......!
Of course, it's good that many mills have been razed, but others should be retained.
To me, these buildings are just a big part of our history, even if much of Gtr Manchester was built on child labour, 16 hour days and absolute abject poverty. Many other old cities were too.
Some of them should stay, as a reminder of the fact that this was the world's first industrial city (and an extremely nasty one at that). Getting rid of everything would be like trying to re-write history (to me).
Farsight
September 26th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Well said Sir Miles Platting. I couldn't agree more.
I wouldn't want to get rid of everything, Jongey. And Sir Miles Platting said that too. It's just a matter of getting the balance right.
Jongeman
September 26th, 2005, 08:54 PM
There certainly is a lot of it, isn't there. Where I come from looks like a fuckin hole in parts. I make my observations from an old mill on Mossley Rd in Ashton-u-Lyne which had very recently been converted into apartments.......looks really good.
Shame I can't get a pic of it.......
crush2000
September 28th, 2005, 08:01 PM
pic from this morning
http://tinypic.com/e197i8.jpg
markydeedrop
October 15th, 2005, 02:12 PM
Here are some pictures from the Town Centre Securities website for the new IVLA store:
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_3532.jpg
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_4221.jpg
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_3590.jpg
http://www.tcs-plc.com/gallery/photographs/images/210905/img_4237.jpg
Cluxton Construction have been awarded the contract for a new 240 spaces multi storey car park at Piccadilly Basin. This will be completed in time for Christmas 2005 and will contain the latest design and technology to be found in modern car parking with safety and design at the core.
pookey
October 16th, 2005, 01:11 PM
The basin this morning... Why do my bastard pictures all come out so dark?
Yes I know it was early!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/pookey1967/piccbasin1610.jpg
vertigosufferer
October 16th, 2005, 01:27 PM
The basin this morning... Why do my bastard pictures all come out so dark?
Yes I know it was early!
That's probably it, and also at this time of the year, the sun doesn't get high up in the sky. They are quite atmospheric though, keep up the good work ;)
caw123
October 16th, 2005, 01:29 PM
Thanks for your updates Pookey. Issa Quay is taking for ever, it's been u/c for months and months and they're still on the 3rd floor!
jrb
October 21st, 2005, 12:46 AM
For those who have not seen the site! Must admit I haven't!
Went past the new ILVA store today, cladding, greenish glass and light brown panels, very nice! Doesn't stand out at all!
http://www.issaquay.co.uk/
jrb
October 27th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Taken today!
Don't worry about the ILVA store! It looks great! Lots of green tinted glass, the cladding is a choclate brown coloured stone, with silver panels! Quality! :)
Issa is coming along slowly and BDP contractors are now on site!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture01777777777777777777777.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0188888888888888888888888.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture016666666666666666666.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/0300000000000000000.jpg
SleepyOne
October 27th, 2005, 09:40 PM
They can clad the IVLA in solid marble for all I care, its still a completely inappropriate building for this site and in design terms offers nothing to the surrounding area, most of all the hugely important Great Ancoats Street or the canal frontage.
Contractors on the BDP site? Are you sure? Good news if so.
Issa Quay crawling along at a snails pace, I see. Come on!!
man med
October 27th, 2005, 09:54 PM
by the way the ISIS tower over the way from the ILVA store site has a pile driver on site. behind the hoardings showing the tower.
jrb
October 27th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Maghull, a Liverpool based property developer is behind the refurb of the yellow building(smashed windows) and Manchesters version of the three Graces! :naughty:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/pookey1967/piccbasin1610.jpg
cottonopolis
October 27th, 2005, 11:55 PM
About time that got done up. I quite like that building but it looks a total tip at the moment.
Farsight
October 28th, 2005, 01:29 AM
I like the look of this. Is this the ILVA store? Normally I don't care much for low buildings but IMHO this looks well elegant. And it's good to have some low buildings next to a waterside location to let in light and get the sun glinting off the water.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0188888888888888888888888.jpg
inquisitor57
October 28th, 2005, 02:36 AM
I can't say I've heard of this before, but it seems to be very well done (or as Farsight would say "well elegant")
Craig
October 28th, 2005, 01:09 PM
[QUOTE=SleepyOne]They can clad the IVLA in solid marble for all I care, its still a completely inappropriate building for this site and in design terms offers nothing to the surrounding area, most of all the hugely important Great Ancoats Street or the canal frontage.[QUOTE]
Absolutely right
caw123
November 11th, 2005, 10:08 PM
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/626ISSAQuay_pic3.jpg
Issa 'bloody snails pace' Quay.
jrb
December 1st, 2005, 01:27 AM
2005 report!
A few images!
http://www.tcs-plc.com/news/corporate/images/tcs_ar2005.pdf
highriser
December 17th, 2005, 01:50 PM
A huge board as been put up in the Basin , with a render of the Ducie St carpark saying it opens on 31.12.05.... im hopeing Inacity are waiting for this to open, so they can close off that carpark where Eastgate is going,,or is this wishful thinking :)
jrb
December 27th, 2005, 09:47 PM
Images will be uploaded tomorrow.
cottonopolis
December 27th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Nice pics JRB. What´s that horrid thing in the last pic? Hope that´s not the final exterior..
9462
December 28th, 2005, 02:01 AM
jrb - congratulations, thats the first time you havent put n exclamation mark on your sentance
caw123
February 1st, 2006, 11:42 PM
Issa Quay
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/626ISSAQuay_pic4.jpg
Now upto....erm......6 floors.
SleepyOne
February 11th, 2006, 01:24 AM
IVLA warehouse. An incredibly inappropriate building to put on such a site. Also, admire the surface car park out front, providing such an elegant relationship between said building and the canal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture1055.jpg
**
Any movement on the BDP office building behind Issa Quay yet? 2006 seemed such a long way away when this was announced last year but here we are, mid Febuary already!
http://www.tcs-plc.com/develop_port/development/images/man1.jpghttp://www.tcs-plc.com/develop_port/development/images/man2.jpg
The Longford
February 11th, 2006, 01:29 AM
IVLA warehouse. An incredibly inappropriate building to put on such a site.
Would you like to eloborate sleepy!
Also - got some more shots of the CJC today btw if you want them.
kids
February 11th, 2006, 01:36 AM
I hope these developments don't destroy that odd bridge that goes under the bridge and over the canal just by issa - that thing is so cool. :)
doka..dan
February 11th, 2006, 03:56 AM
They can clad the IVLA in solid marble for all I care, its still a completely inappropriate building for this site and in design terms offers nothing to the surrounding area, most of all the hugely important Great Ancoats Street or the canal frontage.
Contractors on the BDP site? Are you sure? Good news if so.
Issa Quay crawling along at a snails pace, I see. Come on!!
It beats glass anytime......Oh Agra....the magic of Rajasthan!!!!
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/doc_manc/TR000298.jpg
PS Taken from the back by the River bank.......!!!!!!!
dgnr8
February 11th, 2006, 04:11 AM
After experience of having to clean up the Asda carpark in Beswick by the canal, I can only sympathise with what Sleepy means. There are many problems with carpark being near a carpark. Thank fuck there aren't any fast food gaffs round there.
Farsight
February 11th, 2006, 11:33 AM
IMHO that ILVA building looks really nice. It's long, sleek, elegant, and colourful. (I really like colourful buildings because I've spent too long spent amidst grey brown concrete and brick). Obviously the underlying construction is akin to my local B&Q, but that green glass gives it a wow factor that really lifts it up into the 21st Century.
Hmmmn. That car park really looks like it could do with some greenery. I hope it gets it.
SleepyOne: they can't all be highrises or anything else, and who is the arbiter of appropriateness? IMHO it's comely, it lets the sun shine in, and is far far better than the dereliction that's around there today. Maybe in a few years the area will have improved and the economics change. Then maybe somebody will buy the site for a nice skyscraper or something you'd be happier with. And in the meantime this will help lift the area.
SleepyOne
February 11th, 2006, 04:30 PM
Would you like to eloborate sleepy!
Hi Longford. Yes. (And I look forward to your thoughts on the points I raised in the Sunley thread! ;) )
I just dont think that this particular retail model that lends itself to large, groundscraping warehousing, car dependency and a large surface car park is appropriate for such a fast developing, urban area. It simply not appripriate in a people-centric urban district with its small scale streets, its canals and towpaths. Buildings like this, like IKEA, belong next to a motorway junction. Its only because the likes of IKEA are difersifying its retail model in terms of incorporating flats or breaking up the bulk of its traditional warehouse that it is being allowed into more urban areas. If we had to have an IVLA warehouse in this location, we should have insited on this kind of treatment.
Im disappointed that a few people here have been seduced by a bit of green glass and are failing to look objectively at what we have here. What we have is a very big box, turned side-on to the main road (Great Ancoats Street) and fronting onto a surface car park (which in turn fronts onto the canal). What a shambolic waste of such a prime location! Its of an utterly different scale to anything else in the area.... save for the other retail boxes on the opposite side of the road..... and on that score you can perhaps understand the planners' thinking in that it is consolidating the type of development already there. But with the way Ancoats and Piccadilly are developing, hands up how many people think that the Central Retail Park is sustainable beyond the next few years anyway? Not me! So aside from this new building looking incongruous also points to a huge lack of foresight on behalf of th planners and developers that have endorsed this building.
caw123
February 11th, 2006, 04:47 PM
Im disappointed that a few people here have been seduced by a bit of green glass and are failing to look objectively at what we have here. What we have is a very big box, turned side-on to the main road (Great Ancoats Street) and fronting onto a surface car park (which in turn fronts onto the canal). What a shambolic waste of such a prime location! Its of an utterly different scale to anything else in the area.... save for the other retail boxes on the opposite side of the road..... and on that score you can perhaps understand the planners' thinking in that it is consolidating the type of development already there. But with the way Ancoats and Piccadilly are developing, hands up how many people think that the Central Retail Park is sustainable beyond the next few years anyway? Not me! So aside from this new building looking incongruous also points to a huge lack of foresight on behalf of th planners and developers that have endorsed this building.
I agree, IVLA is a total waste of what would surely have been a hot piece of property in a few years time when Eastgate, Royal Mills, ISIS and various other smaller projects are complete and the city centre continues to expand eastwards.
It should have been stuck out near Sportcity, or something. Not in a prime spot. Now we'll have the situation where CRP is demolished and developed, and IVLA will be stuck in the middle of it all like a groundhugging, green, sore thumb.
Accura4Matalan
February 11th, 2006, 05:20 PM
It looks like a bus station.
Sir Miles Platting
February 11th, 2006, 10:21 PM
It looks like a bus station.
nowt wrong with bus stations, that one in preston is boss.... :)
The Longford
February 11th, 2006, 10:48 PM
Sleepy et al. Yep totally agree but as i say - like the architecture but not the concept.
I believe the bar should be raised in architecture and apply it to all projects be it schools, supermarkets, bus stations, housing or even retail parks. Sadly retail parks are here to stay and are market driven but if we must have them lets try and demand some decent architecture in to the bargain. I believe IVLA goes someway in achieving this. We should be criticising the planners (i think we are already arent we?) - this development does nothing for the area on a social level, will increase an already over burdened Gt Ancoats Street and, as you say, a criminal waste of a potentially good site.
Farsight
February 12th, 2006, 01:40 AM
Let's see now. I don't like it because I say it's not appropriate, and if you like it, you've been seduced by its beauty and you're just not being objective. Ho Hum. This sounds very much like the imposition of a subjective view rather than engaging in open debate. As does pointedly ignoring somebody who takes the trouble to explain a different view.
Cherguevara
February 12th, 2006, 06:46 PM
I walked around the IVLA building today with an open mind and have to say it's a fucking ridiculous place to put what is in effect a tarted up retail shed. The front may be acceptable (although why it doesn't face Great Ancoats Street I'm not sure rather than the dark slab that does) but the back looks like the arse end of Baguely Tesco, an obese tin box. There's so much open land up there that someone could develop.However I doubt anybody is going to want to wake up and stare at that and so very possibly they won't. It's almost like someone in the planning department is determined to cut Ancoats off from town with a no mans land of threateningly lifeless streets.
Whether it visually relates or not (which is subjective) it kills the street. It isn't subjective to say that people aren't going to want to walk down the back of an inner city retail park at night. It's common sense. Whatever it looks like it damages the city by actively discouraging the heavy pedestrian footfall safe urban environment that a successful city needs.
Mez
February 12th, 2006, 06:52 PM
I reserved judgement till I saw it.
That Ivla store is a f**kin utter waste. With its canal side carpark?!?!?!?
Is it that hard to design a city?
rolybling
February 13th, 2006, 01:18 PM
I only saw this place myself just the other day for the first time and I was shocked how crap it is, I had an overwhelming feeling this will turn out to be a mistake, such a prime site on the border with Ancoats, what were they thinking?
jrb
February 14th, 2006, 12:23 AM
Taken from the new car park.(don't think the guy in the penthouse was to chuffed? :runaway: )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/jester19191919.jpg
Issa Quay.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0055555555555555555555.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0066666666666666666666666.jpg
New car park on the left.(spot my penthouse mate)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0033333333333333333333333333.jpg
Sarah tower is now a flat piece of mud. They've leveled the mud mound. :)
rolybling
February 14th, 2006, 03:26 PM
thanks for all your pics jrb on here and other threads, cheers
SleepyOne
March 12th, 2006, 11:41 PM
Few images from around the developing Piccadilly Basin area from the Martin Stockley (http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/portfolio_pages/portfolio_09_02.html) website.
http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/images/portfolio_images/pic_basin_02.jpg
CITYLOFTS' VANTAGE QUAY - jrb I prefer your shot!
http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/images/portfolio_images/pic_basin_03.jpg
CITYLOFTS' VANTAGE QUAY (Western / Southern elevations)
http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/images/portfolio_images/pic_basin_06.jpg
CANAL BASIN, JACKSON'S WAREHOUSE
http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/images/portfolio_images/pic_basin_05.jpg
BRIDGE OVER CANAL BASIN
highriser
March 12th, 2006, 11:51 PM
Crackin little bar that Moon at Jackson's Warehouse ,,:)
Accura4Matalan
March 13th, 2006, 11:47 PM
I keep trying to find it when I go to Manchester on Tuesdays, but I never can :(
pookey
April 25th, 2006, 08:13 PM
This pic from near the basin. Any ideas what is being built here?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/pookey1967/nearbasin2304.jpg
highriser
April 25th, 2006, 08:33 PM
"cough" Sarah Tower
pookey
April 25th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Cheers HR. Why the cough?
CrazyMoFo84
April 25th, 2006, 09:13 PM
When are (i hope this is right) BDP Architects starting on their new offices on Dale Street?
It's a cracking building!
highriser
April 25th, 2006, 09:16 PM
Cheers HR. Why the cough?
cos it taken them 6 months to get that far,,, :runaway:
pookey
April 25th, 2006, 09:54 PM
cos it taken them 6 months to get that far,,, :runaway:
Heh, at least they're diggin mate. Wish they were at the Eastgate Site >(
highriser
May 6th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Issa Quay
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0802.jpg
highriser
June 20th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Noticed today ,, the slow fukka's at Issa Quay have moved all there crap off the site next door (BDP HQ).
Was'nt this suppose to start soon ?
markydeedrop
June 21st, 2006, 05:44 PM
Fancy a free beer? Get yourself down to Moon Bar this Thursday for a free beer tasting event.
Moon Bar and restaurant is a hidden gem that can be found at the back of Jackson’s Warehouse on Tariff Street. Whether you want a sit down meal or simply a relaxing drink, Moon Bar is perfectly situated within easy reach of Piccadilly station, with unparalleled views across Piccadilly’s historic waterways and Manchester’s ever changing landscape.
Moon Bar’s beer suppliers Scottish and Newcastle are coming down to Moon this Thursday, June 22nd, and a little birdy has told us that there will be free drinks for everyone on the premises.
The event begins at 6 and lasts until the beer runs out, so make sure that you’re there on time to get your fair share of the action!
http://www.piccadillymanchester.com/images/20060601-moon.jpg
highriser
July 3rd, 2006, 07:09 PM
The digger's have started on the BDP HQ site next to Issa Quay :)
SleepyOne
July 3rd, 2006, 09:58 PM
Great news. About time too.
Architects BDP have designed a new 33,000 sq ft office building on Ducie Street which they will occupy themselves. The attractive building is shown below from both the canal and the road elevations.
http://www.tcs-plc.com/old/develop_port/development/images/man1.jpg
http://www.tcs-plc.com/old/develop_port/development/images/man2.jpg
rolybling
July 3rd, 2006, 10:04 PM
Was wondering when this was going to start, thanks for the update H
skymann
July 4th, 2006, 08:22 AM
Great news. About time too.
Very stylish office development - a good advert for their architectural skills
highriser
July 7th, 2006, 07:28 PM
The BDP site this afternoon.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0890.jpg
highriser
July 24th, 2006, 01:23 AM
Went to take some pics today and only got as far as parking up before getting pissed in the sun :)
Anyway , the site for the BDP HQ as been extended out ,,i hope the Sarah tower lot were watching :)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0913.jpg
skit_uk
July 24th, 2006, 09:57 PM
Jo Guest in the digger business i see :)
I don't know why but it bother me when developers start filling in canals, can't they do a beetham and have the building narrower at the bottom
jrb
August 15th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Taken today.
BDP and Issa Quay.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture222.jpg
highriser
August 15th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Cheers for all the pics jerb , really looking forward to the BDP HQ building .
The Longford
August 15th, 2006, 07:50 PM
Thats a tight old site aint it?
markydeedrop
August 16th, 2006, 05:13 PM
Lancaster-based developer Time & Tide is to submit a planning application for a £58m, 20-storey tower in the Piccadilly area of central Manchester.
The developer wants to build the 220,000 sq ft scheme on the corner of Great Ancoats Street and Store Street, close to Inacity's planned tower development.
The scheme will comprise 250 residential and live-work units as well as a 3,500 sq ft retail unit fronting Great Ancoats Street.
As well as the 20-storey tower, a "satellite" building of 7 storeys will also be included in the scheme.
The development will be aimed at the owner occupier market, rather than investors.
John Asplin, director of Time & Tide, said: "The Manchester site has huge potential and represents a real step in Time and Tide's development.
"Piccadilly is growing quickly and investment such as this will be critical to the regeneration of Piccadilly and the ongoing revitalisation of the wider area."
Consultation on the Manchester scheme is expected to begin later this month and a decision on planning is anticipated in the autumn.
GShutty
August 16th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Lancaster-based developer Time & Tide is to submit a planning application for a £58m, 20-storey tower in the Piccadilly area of central Manchester.
The developer wants to build the 220,000 sq ft scheme on the corner of Great Ancoats Street and Store Street, close to Inacity's planned tower development.
The scheme will comprise 250 residential and live-work units as well as a 3,500 sq ft retail unit fronting Great Ancoats Street.
As well as the 20-storey tower, a "satellite" building of 7 storeys will also be included in the scheme.
The development will be aimed at the owner occupier market, rather than investors.
John Asplin, director of Time & Tide, said: "The Manchester site has huge potential and represents a real step in Time and Tide's development.
"Piccadilly is growing quickly and investment such as this will be critical to the regeneration of Piccadilly and the ongoing revitalisation of the wider area."
Consultation on the Manchester scheme is expected to begin later this month and a decision on planning is anticipated in the autumn.
Cheers MarkyDD. Didn't Mr Bashir- of BSC say this area will be Manchester's downtown? Looks like the 'stretched-out time-scale building mogul' :) has got his finger on the pulse!
macc
August 16th, 2006, 05:38 PM
^^ :)
Lets landscape Dale stret car park into our very own central park. Lots of grass, canals, skyscrapers, central location just off the beaten track. It'd be perfick.
Manc Guy
August 16th, 2006, 05:44 PM
hmmmm intresting...
jrb
August 16th, 2006, 05:52 PM
Can't quite believe the amount of proposed 20+ story towers for Manchester and Salford we've dug up in the last two weeks.
Indeed, 'Downtown Manchester' sounds a real possibilty.
Manc Guy
August 16th, 2006, 05:55 PM
I cant keep up!
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Corris_/Picture1.png
^^^
Guessing this is the site...
To think weve got another 22, 9, 7 storey towers just accross the road from this and the islington warf development. It really is pushing the boundries...
highriser
September 5th, 2006, 11:18 PM
BDP HQ , and Issa Quay
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1039.jpg
Farsight
September 6th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Tarr for all these pictures you're putting up highriser.
Craig
September 6th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Lancaster-based developer Time & Tide is to submit a planning application for a £58m, 20-storey tower in the Piccadilly area of central Manchester.
The developer wants to build the 220,000 sq ft scheme on the corner of Great Ancoats Street and Store Street, close to Inacity's planned tower development.
The scheme will comprise 250 residential and live-work units as well as a 3,500 sq ft retail unit fronting Great Ancoats Street.
As well as the 20-storey tower, a "satellite" building of 7 storeys will also be included in the scheme.
The development will be aimed at the owner occupier market, rather than investors.
John Asplin, director of Time & Tide, said: "The Manchester site has huge potential and represents a real step in Time and Tide's development.
"Piccadilly is growing quickly and investment such as this will be critical to the regeneration of Piccadilly and the ongoing revitalisation of the wider area."
Consultation on the Manchester scheme is expected to begin later this month and a decision on planning is anticipated in the autumn.
I'm assuming this is the site of the former White House pub that was recently demolished.
skymann
September 6th, 2006, 02:32 PM
I'm assuming this is the site of the former White House pub that was recently demolished.
I don't think so; that's not actually Store St and the plans for that are no way near 20 storey.
MancDave
September 6th, 2006, 08:12 PM
It might be where that d.i.y store ash of ancoats is?
skymann
September 6th, 2006, 08:25 PM
It might be where that d.i.y store ash of ancoats is?
That would be more like it MancDave
highriser
September 6th, 2006, 09:13 PM
I wish that shitty building ( Brownfield Mill ) facing IVLA , will get demolished its in a terrible state , surely the council can inforce something to be done with it .
markydeedrop
September 7th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Hey highriser that building is both our past and future, it's OK. I'm not sure it's going anywhere soon.
Bluegate74
September 8th, 2006, 09:49 PM
That mill is over 100 yrs, old and with a little imagination, could be restored and converted into a fantastic block of flats or office, like Royal Mills across the street. Dont write something off just because its sem-derelict.
Christ if the council planning team were made up of philistines like you (which many of them are) then the heritage of this city doesn't have a cat in hells chance. New and bigger is not always better you know. Thats what some of the guys contributing to this site need to get into their heads. You get sick of comments from guys stating "when are we gonna get a 40 storey or my city need towers" etc. etc. etc. Talk about penis envy.
I wish that shitty building ( Brownfield Mill ) facing IVLA , will get demolished its in a terrible state , surely the council can inforce something to be done with it .
The Longford
September 8th, 2006, 11:00 PM
Over 100 years old.........?
Its nearly 200 years old bluegate mate and to say it is historic is an understatement!
Not only is it one of the worlds first fireproof mills built using an iron frame and stone but it was also the place that in 1900 A V Roe registered his aeroplane building business making it the first aircraft manufacturers in the WORLD!
It is Grade II* listed putting it in the same category as The Midland Hotel, The Refuge Building and The Manchester Museum.
But Highriser knows better...........! :)
macc
September 8th, 2006, 11:19 PM
Brownfield mill, Is that what its called? I'm trying to get a picture but I can't find anything.
Mez
September 9th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Ahh, i love this building. Started my job at ILVA on monday and I get to look at it everyday.
Its just as good as any other mill around there apart from that shitty veneer thats on the south side. Build and extension on the north side to front Gt Ancoats st and fill up the land between it and that moon bar with a classy modern equivalent and robert's your dad's brother!
The Longford
September 9th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Brownfield mill, Is that what its called? I'm trying to get a picture but I can't find anything.
There is a picture in this article about A V Roe which was written by Manchester's best (and most handsome) writer on such matters!
http://www.manchestercivic.org.uk/forum/37/F37_11.pdf
highriser
September 10th, 2006, 01:09 AM
Over 100 years old.........?
Its nearly 200 years old bluegate mate and to say it is historic is an understatement!
Not only is it one of the worlds first fireproof mills built using an iron frame and stone but it was also the place that in 1900 A V Roe registered his aeroplane building business making it the first aircraft manufacturers in the WORLD!
It is Grade II* listed putting it in the same category as The Midland Hotel, The Refuge Building and The Manchester Museum.
But Highriser knows better...........! :)
Fair enough ,, i just wish something is done with it , it looks like a bag of bollox atm.
Im all for restoring our historic building's :)
The Longford
September 10th, 2006, 01:16 AM
I wish something is done with it aswell if its any consolation.
Fucking dodgy landlords who dont give a shit about the building and would rather see it fall down so they can sell it on.
I agree it looks shit and its spitting in the eye of such an important building.
WeasteDevil
September 10th, 2006, 02:17 AM
it was also the place that in 1900 A V Roe registered his aeroplane building business making it the first aircraft manufacturers in the WORLD!
Their most famous aircraft however was built in Trafford Park, where the hell is that factory now? WTF happened to MetroVicks?
kebabmonster
September 10th, 2006, 02:51 AM
There is a Rugby Union club, based in Sale, called Trafford Metropolitain Vickers. They have pic's on the wall of the old factory (loads of replicas of that famous pic, where the light beams in over the workers making planes)
The Longford
September 10th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Their most famous aircraft however was built in Trafford Park, where the hell is that factory now? WTF happened to MetroVicks?
Sorry to be a pedant Weastey but all the majority of their aircraft were built at Greengate, Failsworth and out at Woodford. The metroVicks factory in TP was given over to war production though where Lancasters were built.
MetroVicks became part of GEC who had a presence until the late 90's and the whole factory and the beautiful offices building were demolished to make way for some green corrugated metal sheds.
Have a look here:
http://www.mvbook.org.uk/
High-Fi
September 10th, 2006, 10:41 PM
I took another little tour of Manchester today, starting off at Piccadilly Basin...
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/carlf/Manchester/IMG_2199.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/carlf/Manchester/IMG_2200.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/carlf/Manchester/IMG_2201.jpg
macc
September 11th, 2006, 11:18 AM
^^ See that white building on the corner with all the broken windows. I walked passed it a few weeks ago. You can see into the basement through the broken windows. What used to resemble a meeting place for the homeless is now full of the tools of joiners, so they are obviously making progress from the inside.
That building is ruining the view at the moment but it'll be great when it and the adjoining buildings have been done up.
High-Fi
September 11th, 2006, 01:32 PM
Let's hope they do renovate it properly. It's like an inverse Express Building.
The Longford
September 11th, 2006, 01:41 PM
That is the Hilton Street warehouse of J D Williams from 1937 and was designed by Pendleton and Dickinson who also did The Regal (now The Dancehouse) on Oxford Road. But of course you all knew that!
They seem to have been converting it for ages and its being developed by Maghull who have a chequred history. Its a great building IMO. I think KITR has in his avatar doesnt he?
skymann
September 11th, 2006, 02:58 PM
It's like an inverse Express Building.
Well, well, so it is!
macc
September 11th, 2006, 04:15 PM
Can anyone tell me what they are doing here?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/macc2001/DSC00005.jpg
(The large industrial machinery, rather than the fishing granny)
GShutty
September 11th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Can anyone tell me what they are doing here?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/macc2001/DSC00005.jpg
(The large industrial machinery, rather than the fishing granny)
Good spot Macc- I haven't heard anything about this one, but have seen a lot of activity in the dirty black building in the far corner of the car park recently too. Any clues any body? Activity levels are certainly picking up around here again!
macc
September 11th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Another bridge from here to ISSA Quay would be nice....and get rid of the cars and make it into a park while they're at it :naughty:
highriser
September 27th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Anyone fancy a bit of Danish :)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1069.jpg
highriser
October 15th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Can anyone tell me what they are doing here?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/macc2001/DSC00005.jpg
(The large industrial machinery, rather than the fishing granny)
The crane for the BDP HQ is going up here ,, it's got a longer arm to go across the canal .
Manchester Planner
October 15th, 2006, 04:36 PM
More photos taken today of the crane going up at this site:
http://www.pichotel.com/pic/4750g5mlQ/77722.jpg
http://www.pichotel.com/pic/4750g5mlQ/77723.jpg
How tall/big is this development going to be?
SleepyOne
October 15th, 2006, 04:56 PM
The BDP HQ will be about the height of the neighbouring Issa Quay.
http://www.bdp.co.uk/flash/news/graphics/2005/187b%20BDP%20From%20Canal%20%20Landscape_large.jpg
http://www.constructionmall.com/press/images/691557957.jpg
News update from the Town Centre Securities website
Piccadilly Basin – Manchester
PICCADILLY, MANCHESTER
A real urban oasis is now taking shape at our Piccadilly Basin site which we hope will become an exemplar for sustainable development; a place to shop, relax, drink, eat, live and work around a peaceful waterside environment is all coming together at this influential site within 5 minutes walk of Piccadilly Station.
Danish retailer, ILVA, has now opened their first bespoke store in the UK at the Great Ancoats Street area of the Basin. This major destination store should trigger further retail development opposite where we will shortly commence refurbishing the imposing Grade II ** listed Brownsfield Mill. Detailed plans for uses around this building are also being drawn up in consultation with Manchester Council to create a new design quarter for the City.
During 2006 we also completed the first multi-storey car park in Tariff Street for some 240 cars. This high quality scheme is being run by our subsidiary company, Town Centre Car Parks and will provide contract spaces as well as acting as an overspill at peak times for the retail users.
The residential elements are almost complete around the now well established marina, which offers not only overnight mooring facilities, but also the opportunity to fish and enjoy a relaxed drink around the popular Moon Bar. We intend to bring forward detailed plans in the New Year for the final residential phase, which will also include a new restaurant for the Basin.
The offices are taking shape. The careful restoration of the listed Carvers Warehouse is well under way creating some unique space on five floors with much of it already under offer. Available later in 2007, the new glass fronted entrance will provide presence to the Dale Street and start to knit the Basin area back into the established commercial and retail areas of London Road.
Work has also commenced on the new BDP head office with the appointment of Kier as the major contractor. This 33,000 sqft pre-let building, we hope, will establish a unique new build quality and set sustainable standard for the Basin, taking advantage of the peaceful waterfront setting to produce a naturally ventilated, highly attractive building.
Manchester Planner
October 15th, 2006, 05:07 PM
That's the wrong side of the canal... unless the crane will reach over it!
Nice building though. :)
SleepyOne
October 15th, 2006, 05:11 PM
I know. Highriser seems to think it is for the BDP building. I guess it makes sense. Its a really tightly restricted site.
Manchester Planner
October 15th, 2006, 05:13 PM
Yeah I suppose.
highriser
October 15th, 2006, 06:19 PM
Cheers for that article Sleep's , its good to hear something is going to be done with that Brownfeild Mill , it looks a disgrace at the moment .
Piccadilly Basin is going to really change over the next couple of years , the future's bright , the future is Manchester :)
Gavin
October 16th, 2006, 11:45 AM
Crane is finished. It is for BDP. The arm is very very long.
Architecty
October 16th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Fantastic that this is really getting going, I would have thought it will fly up, going to want to make a showpiece build of their own building. Any bets on whether the BDP staff will move in here before any flats are released in Issa Quay !
Legin
October 29th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Walked past this area today and as the press realease states - Work now is certainly underway on Carver's warehouse - which if you don't know is the old building backing on to the car park in Macc's pic.
Accura4Matalan
October 29th, 2006, 11:42 PM
Visited the ILVA store on Friday. Quite an impressive store, if a little over the top.
SleepyOne
November 1st, 2006, 01:21 AM
Further confirmation of works to Carvers Warehouse from the Martin Stockley website.
Carver’s Warehouse
http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/images/Carvers1cropped.JPG
Carver’s Warehouse is the oldest surviving warehouse in Manchester city centre. It retains virtually all of its original timber and cast iron internal structure and its external walls are constructed wholly from stone. Martin Stockley Associates are project managing the restoration and reuse of the listed warehouse as commercial office space as part of the Piccadilly Basin regeneration scheme and our Manchester studio will move into the top two floors when completed. Works are now progressing on site and the scheme is scheduled for completion in December 2007
Farsight
November 2nd, 2006, 04:07 PM
That's the sort of historic old building I like.
Mez
November 2nd, 2006, 10:22 PM
I'd like it to be a museum.
Legin
November 9th, 2006, 05:49 PM
A nice clean up job just done on this building on Hilton St.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/DSCN0670.jpg
cottonopolis
November 9th, 2006, 06:05 PM
^^ aaahhh The Hatters Hostel. Can recommend it to anyone visiting Manchester..
Legin
November 9th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Work starting on the refurbishment of Brownfield Mill - any body got any renders - hopefully this will encourage further development in this area that fronts onto Ancoats St
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/DSCN0673.jpg
Legin
November 9th, 2006, 06:22 PM
^^ aaahhh The Hatters Hostel. Can recommend it to anyone visiting Manchester..
Is it still a hostel - having had a refurb etc - I hope its not fallen into the hands of property developers wanting to make a quick buck
cottonopolis
November 9th, 2006, 07:29 PM
^^ Seems so:
http://www.hattersgroup.com/hatters/index.html
highriser
November 15th, 2006, 01:29 AM
Groundwork for the BDP office block is coming on well ,, i'll get some pics when the weather cheers up :)
future.architect
November 15th, 2006, 02:36 AM
A nice clean up job just done on this building on Hilton St.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/DSCN0670.jpg
oh my god! thats stunning, why have i never noticed that before!
Liam-Manchester
November 15th, 2006, 08:17 AM
It shows the amount of quality architecture there is Manchester when a building like this can go unnoticed. Simply stunning.
rolybling
November 15th, 2006, 12:34 PM
It's easy to miss this building, it's at a busy junction there and you take your life in your hands crossing it sometimes so most people probably have their eyes well and truly on the road and the cars rather than this beauty.
highriser
November 19th, 2006, 04:00 PM
Issa Quay and the BDP office site.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1109.jpg?t=1163944765
Legin
December 3rd, 2006, 01:54 PM
Student Accomodation block on Berry St
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/dec052.jpg
andysimo123
December 3rd, 2006, 02:01 PM
That's a decent size building for a student block.
Legin
December 3rd, 2006, 07:24 PM
yes - with all the new students builds there must be a few landlords in fallowfield getting a bit nervous.
This was posted by sleepyone - anyone got an up to date render.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/03_p37_Buxton_St.jpg
jrb
December 12th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Piccadilly set be new business heart
A MIGHTY 350,000 sq ft office scheme in Piccadilly is to go ahead as the area stakes its claim to be Manchester's new business hub.
Developers Town Centre Securities has appointed Manchester surveyors Lambert Smith Hampton and Cushman & Wakefield with the task of letting its landmark £250m Piccadilly Basin scheme.
Work is already under way on the conversion of the historic Carvers Warehouse in a 24,000 sq ft office scheme. The refurbishment is due for completion next year.
Work is also in progress creating a 31,450sq ft HQ for BDP Architects, with completion anticipated in early 2008.
Town Centre Securities has also won detailed planning permission for an 87,600 sq ft block designed by award-winning Manchester architect Ian Simpson.
The Piccadilly area is rapidly becoming the focus for office development in the city centre. London-based developers Argent are at work on the 200,000 sq ft speculative development No 3 Piccadilly Place at London Road.
A 55,000 sq ft building next to No 2 Piccadilly Place has already been let to Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive.
Some in the city's property business say Piccadilly will be the next major business district in the city, once the Spinningfield development is completed.
Focus
After Piccadilly, attention will focus on creating a new business district around Victoria station and at the Salford Greengates site.
Richard Lewis, development director for Town Centre Securities, said: "The appointment of the agents is testament to our commitment to the offices element of Piccadilly Basin. To have secured the BDP letting is fantastic and we look forward to working with future occupiers in much the same way to create bespoke, sustainable working environments within our major regeneration scheme."
Peter Skelton, director of office agency at Lambert Smith Hampton's Manchester office, said: "The beauty of this scheme is its sustainability as an urban oasis, offering an attractive setting with all that the city has to offer on the doorstep.
"The perception of Piccadilly as an area has definitely changed over recent years, with occupiers seeing the clear benefits of its proximity to both the train station and the Metrolink stops at Piccadilly Gardens.
"The ideal location, with good amenities close by, and ample on site parking, is a true selling point for companies looking to attract and retain staff."
Tony Bray, partner at Cushman & Wakefield, said: "To offer a unique blend of historic and architecturally striking offices in an established, sustainable mixed-use environment adjacent to Manchester's retail and transport is an incredibly attractive prospect."
jrb
December 12th, 2006, 06:11 PM
www.themetapartments.co.uk (website isn't operational yet)
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/images/dale_street.jpg
Dale Street Mills constitutes three Grade II listed former textile mills known as Industry House, Millington House and Hilton House, situated in the Piccadilly Basin Area of Manchester City Centre.
The mills are currently being refurbished to provide 125,000 sq ft of residential living accomodation across 201 apartments with two levels of private underground car parking. A landscaped courtyard with a water feature runs between the three phases of the scheme.
Residents can enjoy easy access to Manchester City Centre, the nearby Northern Quarter and the Piccadilly Basin Canals.
Name: Dale Street Mills
Location: Dale Street, Piccadilly Basin, Manchester City Centre
Size: 300,000 sq.ft. GIA
201 residential units (125,000 sq.ft.NIA)
& 105 Basement car parking spaces.
GDV: £37m
Main Contractor: Maghull Construction
Architect: Ken Jones Architects / AFL Architects
QS/PM: Walker Sime
M&E: King Associates
Residential Sales Agents : Knight Frank
Legal Advisors: Hill Dickinson LLP
Civil/Structural Engineers: Integra Consulting
Funding Partner: Barclays
Completion Date: Phase I, June 2006 / Phase II, October 2006 / Phase III, June 2007
Status: Under Redevelopment
Use: Residential Apartments
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/dalestreet.htm
Farsight
December 12th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Nice to see you back jrb. Good stuff.
macc
December 12th, 2006, 08:11 PM
Piccadilly set be new business heart
A MIGHTY 350,000 sq ft office scheme in Piccadilly is to go ahead as the area stakes its claim to be Manchester's new business hub.
Developers Town Centre Securities has appointed Manchester surveyors Lambert Smith Hampton.............etc, etc
Presumably we know all these? Which is the Town Centre Securitie/Simpson scheme?
dgnr8
December 12th, 2006, 11:47 PM
...etc, etc
Presumably we know all these? Which is the Town Centre Securitie/Simpson scheme?
The Simpson scheme is Eidur House, going on the land adjacent to the BDP HQ. Nowt fancy, 4/5 stories of glass. They must've had planning for about 2 years now.
macc
December 13th, 2006, 02:24 PM
The Simpson scheme is Eidur House, going on the land adjacent to the BDP HQ. Nowt fancy, 4/5 stories of glass. They must've had planning for about 2 years now.
Cheers matey
This one? I haven't seen this before. It must have been submitted before I started looking into this type of thing.
Anyone know whats happening with it?
http://www.tcs-plc.com/uploads/photographs/Eider%202.jpghttp://www.tcs-plc.com/uploads/photographs/Eider%203.jpghttp://www.tcs-plc.com/uploads/photographs/Piccadilly%209.jpg
dgnr8, can we have your 'child smoking' avatar back again, please. It was my favourite (they all got corrupted in the upgrade)
dgnr8
December 13th, 2006, 02:59 PM
No idea what's going on with it to be honest. Planning was granted so long ago that it'd suggest TCS are upscaling their plans. But then I wouldn't know, I have a smoking baby for an avatar.
macc
December 13th, 2006, 03:07 PM
I have a smoking baby for an avatar.
woohoo! :cheer: Get them fags in your mouth little sweat shop rapscallion!
Farsight
December 13th, 2006, 03:36 PM
No idea what's going on with it to be honest. Planning was granted so long ago that it'd suggest TCS are upscaling their plans. But then I wouldn't know, I have a smoking baby for an avatar. Huh? You mean that's not you?!
Legin
December 13th, 2006, 05:26 PM
I wouldn't hold your breath on this - TCS have had permission for piccadilly basin for about 3/4 years now and all they have got built is the IVLA shed and a carpark. There from Yorkshire - need I say anymore.
Architecty
December 13th, 2006, 06:10 PM
All three of those renders are slightly different, which in its self doesn’t bode well, and look at the BDP building (far right), the actual design for that alone has been out for 18 months.
I remember being quite excited by the scheme when it first appeared, the binary pattern façade looked so fresh new and exciting!!!
macc
December 13th, 2006, 06:25 PM
I don't like it anyway. More to the point, I don't like the thought of anything being built on that car park yet. It will break up the area horribly.
There's a wonderful feeling of space and tranquility as you stand in it, by the footbridge. Despite being a shit hole, its the most theraputic surface car park I know, especially at night.
I'm not ready to loose that space yet but by the sounds, its not in that much danger of going anywhere. Whilst we must progress can we not leave this plot till last? And if it has to be developed can it be with something less enclosing and wall like?
Architecty
December 13th, 2006, 08:21 PM
MEN Tuesday, 12th December 2006
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/s/230/230546_piccadilly_set_be_new_business_heart.html
Piccadilly set be new business heart
David Thame
Peter Skelton, Richard Lewis, David Thwaites, Mark Bamber and Tony Bray.A MIGHTY 350,000 sq ft office scheme in Piccadilly is to go ahead as the area stakes its claim to be Manchester's new business hub.
Developers Town Centre Securities has appointed Manchester surveyors Lambert Smith Hampton and Cushman & Wakefield with the task of letting its landmark £250m Piccadilly Basin scheme.
Work is already under way on the conversion of the historic Carvers Warehouse in a 24,000 sq ft office scheme. The refurbishment is due for completion next year.
Work is also in progress creating a 31,450sq ft HQ for BDP Architects, with completion anticipated in early 2008.
Town Centre Securities has also won detailed planning permission for an 87,600 sq ft block designed by award-winning Manchester architect Ian Simpson.
The Piccadilly area is rapidly becoming the focus for office development in the city centre. London-based developers Argent are at work on the 200,000 sq ft speculative development No 3 Piccadilly Place at London Road.
A 55,000 sq ft building next to No 2 Piccadilly Place has already been let to Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive.
Some in the city's property business say Piccadilly will be the next major business district in the city, once the Spinningfield development is completed.
Focus
After Piccadilly, attention will focus on creating a new business district around Victoria station and at the Salford Greengates site.
Richard Lewis, development director for Town Centre Securities, said: "The appointment of the agents is testament to our commitment to the offices element of Piccadilly Basin. To have secured the BDP letting is fantastic and we look forward to working with future occupiers in much the same way to create bespoke, sustainable working environments within our major regeneration scheme."
Peter Skelton, director of office agency at Lambert Smith Hampton's Manchester office, said: "The beauty of this scheme is its sustainability as an urban oasis, offering an attractive setting with all that the city has to offer on the doorstep.
"The perception of Piccadilly as an area has definitely changed over recent years, with occupiers seeing the clear benefits of its proximity to both the train station and the Metrolink stops at Piccadilly Gardens.
"The ideal location, with good amenities close by, and ample on site parking, is a true selling point for companies looking to attract and retain staff."
Tony Bray, partner at Cushman & Wakefield, said: "To offer a unique blend of historic and architecturally striking offices in an established, sustainable mixed-use environment adjacent to Manchester's retail and transport is an incredibly attractive prospect."
mikeboss
December 13th, 2006, 08:33 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh could have some new talls in the pipeline then the problem is manchester is soon gonna look like a random skyscraper paradice but with no real cluster or pattern just loads all dotted in a circle around the center but might look a little wierd coz theres only gonna be Arndale thats relatively tall in the middle so we will have kind of a dip in the middle will look very strange unless some real talls are put right in the center n i cant see that happening to be onest.
kids
December 13th, 2006, 08:46 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh could have some new talls in the pipeline then the problem is manchester is soon gonna look like a random skyscraper paradice but with no real cluster or pattern just loads all dotted in a circle around the center but might look a little wierd coz theres only gonna be Arndale thats relatively tall in the middle so we will have kind of a dip in the middle will look very strange unless some real talls are put right in the center n i cant see that happening to be onest.
and city tower..
mikeboss
December 13th, 2006, 11:47 PM
your quite right but still doesnt change the fact to fill in the gap which is quite large manchester would have to resemble downtown manhattan. unless that is what they have planned for the future.
Gavin
December 19th, 2006, 02:53 PM
First steel beem appeared to be going in at BDP today. Could this be finished before Issa Quay which appears at a standstill?
mikeboss
December 19th, 2006, 03:46 PM
supprisin that i wouldnt have expected that from BSC:jk:
jrb
December 19th, 2006, 10:15 PM
14 storey for Great Ducie street. No associated docs yet. Architects Hodder.
081121/FO/2006/C1
7 Great Ducie Street
Manchester
M3 1PS
Erection of a fourteen storey building (including ground) with two levels of basement car parking with retail and or restaurant use at ground floor (use classes A1 and A3) and 53 residential apartments on floors 1-13
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=J7MVVQBC62000&searchtype=WEEKLY
SleepyOne
December 19th, 2006, 10:24 PM
That's actually in the area behind the Tempus tower next to the rail bridge, just infront of the MEN arena rather than Piccadilly Basin.
jrb
December 19th, 2006, 10:57 PM
That's actually in the area behind the Tempus tower next to the rail bridge, just infront of the MEN arena rather than Piccadilly Basin.
Thanks Sleeps.
Wasn't sure of the location.
Farsight
December 20th, 2006, 03:06 PM
jrb: thanks again, you veritable goldmine you.
andysimo123
January 1st, 2007, 10:48 PM
We want a 200 meter tower for that site, make it 210 meters just to make sure we beat everyone else.
strange i just posted this above jrbs post with the pic in above
jrb
January 1st, 2007, 10:48 PM
An empty car park. Ideal for a tower. Right opposite Eastgate aswell. I wonder.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture198.jpg
majormystery
January 2nd, 2007, 12:39 PM
strange i just posted this above jrbs post with the pic in above
I've noticed this happen before too.
I reckon SSC has more than one server running which have not quite synchronised times.
Architecty
February 8th, 2007, 07:48 PM
Current progress of BDP (taken yesterday)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/Architecty/IMG_8952.jpg
The canal side floor and street side floor look complete, most work looked to be on cores at either end and party wall to ISSA quay (which has ground to a halt). Has progressed pretty well, but does illustrate that building a basement next to a canal isnt a fast process even when its done right.
The cream building in jrb's post 199 above is now totally rapped in sheeting, will be great to see that brought back to life.
EDIT: Seemingly has been a problem with my new photo hosting, so have replaced image; hope all can see now.
jrb
February 28th, 2007, 11:46 PM
Article and Images from the Homes (MEN) website.
Note the funky pink building next to the Met. I'd love to have an apartment in the Met. The building is superb and those huge windows. :) What's going on the remaining car park though?
A glass act at Maghull's Met
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/970.$plit/C_17_Articles_237410_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg
THE MET: Maghull Developments
LIVERPOOL- based Maghull Developments have just released the final phase of their Met Apartments scheme at Piccadilly Basin.
The first two phases - conversions of two character mill buildings next to the open car park - were sold to investors, but the restoration of the distinctive art-deco building is aimed at private buyers with high-spec two- bedroom units.
When the show apartment opens next month it will be the first chance for Manchester buyers to see the standard of fit-out by the company which has rebuilt much of central Liverpool and is now turning its attention to this end of the M62.
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Last year they bought the distinctive red brick edifice of Duckworths Mill, in Trafford, and are in detailed talks about how best to turn the inside space of the Grade II listed building designed by Alfred Waterhouse, into individual apartments.
They also own City Buildings a key stone building on the corner of Victoria Station and have plans for a mixed use scheme with a new build block next door.
Inventive
The confines of the art deco building means the architects have had to be inventive with the layout of the Met Apartments - in particular when it came to the windows. The original openings could not be changed and instead of secondary glazing they have opted to create internal terraces running the length of the living room and bedrooms.
The full-length sliding and folding doors then provide the necessary sound and heat insulation, but also provide a natural extension to the living space. It's a similar idea to the buffer zone at No1 Deansgate and Beetham Tower.
Greg Barnard, head of sales and marketing at selling agents Knight Frank said: "The first two phases were aimed at investors and sold and completed last December.
"This final phase is a much higher specification with much larger apartments and aimed at owner occupiers. Maghull are experts at converting and re-furbishing old buildings and they do it well."
Prices start at £135,000 and go up to £300,000 for a penthouse.
highriser
March 1st, 2007, 12:51 AM
Id like to see the corner land next to the Magull development developed , and then the rest of this carkpark landscaped ,, it would make a great green space .
highriser
March 13th, 2007, 08:38 PM
A lot of regeneration around the Dale St area .
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1347_0001.jpg?t=1173810799
The BDP HQ office block and Issa Quay.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1350_0001.jpg?t=1173811027
SleepyOne
March 20th, 2007, 12:18 AM
Yum. Look at the frontage of Carver's Warehouse to Dale Street.
Carver’s Warehouse
http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/images/TCS.Carvers.1a.jpg
Carver’s Warehouse is the oldest surviving warehouse in Manchester city centre. It retains virtually all of its original timber and cast iron internal structure and its external walls are constructed wholly from stone. Martin Stockley Associates are project managing the restoration and reuse of the listed warehouse as commercial office space as part of the Piccadilly Basin regeneration scheme and our Manchester studio will move into the top two floors when completed. Works are now progressing on site and the scheme is scheduled for completion in December 2007.
Jongeman
March 20th, 2007, 12:59 AM
Wow look at all that. I haven't been near Dale St for months, so I haven't seen any of this:)
The core of ISIS wharf looks really imposing in H's first picture. Smart!
markydeedrop
March 26th, 2007, 07:57 PM
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SleepyOne
April 4th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Article on the progress of BDP's new HQ at Piccadilly Basin.
Town Centre Securities - Mixed-Use Development - Manchester, Framework rises at Piccadilly Basin
http://www.propertymall.com/press/images/17258pk.jpg
Left-right Richard Lewis (TCS), Rick Smeaton (Kier North West), Richard Dunn (TCS) and Stephen Redfern (BDP)Left-right Richard Lewis (TCS), Rick Smeaton (Kier North West), Richard Dunn (TCS) and Stephen Redfern (BDP).
Date: 03 Apr 2007
The BDP headquarters building at Piccadilly Basin is well underway with the concrete frame now out of the ground as part of the £250M Town Centre Securities landmark City Centre mixed use scheme.
Work started on the striking 5 storey, 31,450sq ft office building, in July 2006 and upon its completion in November 2007, it will be the first naturally ventilated commercial office building in Manchester to have achieved the much coveted 2006 BREEAM Excellent rating for environmental sustainability. Designed by BDP to house their 275 strong Manchester team, the building comprises part of approximately 400,000sq ft of office accommodation contained in a variety of new and historic buildings at the 12.8 acre City Centre site. The sensitively restored, listed Carvers Warehouse offers over 22,000 sq ft of unique office space over 6 floors and the outstanding Eider House will offer new, efficient floorplates of over 20,000sq ft, with additional design and build development opportunities available within the waterside setting.
Piccadilly Basin is fast transforming into a true urban oasis with the newly refurbished canals, picturesque marina, riverside walkways and landscaped areas creating a tranquil community for all occupiers. The flagship BDP building will feature stunning glazed elevations cantilevered over the Canal Basin, providing efficient and flexible design studio space that allows employees to take full advantage of the magnificent views creating an enviable working location. Key sustainable features include its proximity to city centre transport hubs, reuse of a brown field site and a location that facilitates natural ventilation. In addition the building will include recycled aggregates in its high thermal mass structure, utilise exposed concrete soffits / automatic night time cooling and also harvest rainwater for reuse.
Kier North West has been appointed as contractor for the BDP building and Phil Hornsby, Contracts Manager for Kier North West, explains the work undertaken; "Due to its positioning on a very small site next to the canal, the BDP Building is a complex but exciting project. Since starting on site last year we have undertaken a great deal of structural work, with over 100 piles driven into the ground 22 mtrs, with each pile carrying up to 2000KN to support the framework. We're now at the stage where we're pouring concrete into the first floor slab and things are really taking shape. The team has paid great attention to detail throughout the design and the concrete has an incredibly high standard of finish, the end result will be very impressive."
Richard Lewis, Development Director for Town Centre Securities, continues; "We're delighted with the progress being made on site by Kier North West and it's great to see the frame now rising on the building. Sustainability has always been a driving force behind our development agenda, so we have been very fortunate in attracting likeminded BDP to Piccadilly Basin as they share our commitment to the green agenda."
Stephen Redfern, Business Director for BDP says; "It's very exciting that construction work has now started on our new offices at Piccadilly Basin and to see the building really taking shape. Key to our decision to relocate to Piccadilly Basin was finding a developer in TCS that shared our own vision of a sustainable future. The challenges in developing a naturally ventilated BREEAM Excellent building are significant and TCS had both the location and forward thinking approach to achieve our sustainable goal. We are proud that our relocation will assist in the regeneration of the area and are looking forward to taking advantage of all that this superb scheme has to offer. The integrated design of our building reflects BDP's commitment to sustainability and the new design studios will provide a flexible working environment that is responsive to change and will showcase BDP's design vision."
Upon completion, Piccadilly Basin will offer a vibrant mix of offices, residential, retail & leisure uses, transforming the 12.8 acre site into one of the city's most sought after locations. Leading Manchester agents, Lambert Smith Hampton and Cushman & Wakefield are the office agents on the scheme.
Bluegate74
April 4th, 2007, 06:50 PM
Yum. Look at the frontage of Carver's Warehouse to Dale Street.
I cannot belive this eyesore is being put up infornt of one of the oldest, listed buildings in the city. This building has been hidden for decades behind later dross which was thankfully swept away recently, for what most people thought would be an admirable restoration. Now THIS, obscuring the detail of the original facade & blocking natural light from this side of the building.
Why could the couryard that would have originally been out front not have been reinstated, why does every piece of available land have to be built on for financial gain. Another listed building ruined.
Farsight
April 5th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I agree totally, Bluegate. Like the John Ryland's Library extension, it suffers screamingly from the "do not do pastiche" vogue. The result is totally unsympathetic and jarring. This chaotic ugly little abomination should offer triangles not rectangles, like the house on the side and the original warehouse behind. Aw FFS, it shouldn't even be there. Total Emperor's New Clothes cringe-making fashionable crap.
http://www.martinstockleyassociates.co.uk/images/TCS.Carvers.1a.jpg
macc
April 5th, 2007, 03:33 PM
It reminds me of the louvre. Not to look at obviously, but the concept. I think this looks good (both of them):
http://www.walkingthedavincicode.com/images/louvre.gif
Incidentally, should the bloody fire station ever get some investment and be mixed use, I've imagined a similar style all-glass atrium spanning the enitre courtyard. In a strong shape, perhaps rectangular like Carver's, it could rise a storey above roof level to be visible from outside the building.
What do you reckon eh? no? maybe? arse gravy?
SleepyOne
April 5th, 2007, 07:51 PM
Bluegate - I like how it addresses the street and completes the terrace in a contemporary fashion whilst still relating well to the warehouse behind. Very Original-Modern.
Farsight - hilarious post as always! Thank you.
Piccalilly
April 27th, 2007, 08:59 PM
http://www.paradisewharf.com/piccalilly/jacksons-1.jpg
http://www.paradisewharf.com/piccalilly/jacksons-2.jpg
. . . and this one is at least pointing in that direction
http://www.paradisewharf.com/piccalilly/towards-piccalilly.jpg
highriser
April 27th, 2007, 09:31 PM
? .
flange
May 15th, 2007, 11:14 AM
New life for Carvers
MANCHESTER'S oldest surviving warehouse has a new lease of life.
The Manchester office of consulting engineers, Martin Stockley Associates, has signed up to take 6,275 sq ft over the top two floors of the listed Carvers Warehouse office development within Piccadilly Basin.
Carvers Warehouse is the oldest surviving warehouse in Manchester city centre, retaining virtually all of its original timber and cast iron internal structure, with its external walls constructed wholly from stone. The historic building, with its contemporary extension, offers approx 22,263 sq ft of office space over six floors.
Martin Stockley Associates is project managing the restoration and reuse of the listed warehouse.
The letting is another coup for the £250m Piccadilly Basin redevelopment, a mixed-use regeneration scheme by Yorkshire developer Town Centre Securities.
Glory
Richard Lewis, development director of Town Centre Securities, said: "Work is progressing well on all elements of the scheme, and it is great to see Carvers Warehouse being restored to its former glory.
"It is important to us that the scheme is a blend of modern and historic architecture, and the work being undertaken on Carvers is testament to our commitment. Martin Stockley Assoc- iates has played an integral part in the development of the scheme, so it is entirely fitting that they will reap the benefits of their labour by locating here."
Office agents on the scheme are Lambert Smith Hampton and Cushman & Wakefield.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/business/s/1006/1006948_new_life_for_carvers.html
TheGrand
May 15th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Moving into a Dale Street warehousey type building this end next week, really looking forward to it.
highriser
June 7th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Will the BDP offices get finished before Issa Quay ? ( fucking looks like it )
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1436.jpg?t=1181245184
lexy1968
June 8th, 2007, 12:59 AM
Will the BDP offices get finished before Issa Quay ? ( fucking looks like it )
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1436.jpg?t=1181245184
Work on Issa Quay all but looks to have ground to a complete standstill. Have they run out of money?...
Gavin
June 8th, 2007, 01:40 PM
Issa Quay is being clad. You can see the cladding through the scaffolding in places. Slow work though. Issa Quay also had to wait for BDP offices as they join, to finish the cladding.
My money is on them finishing around the same time, at least from the outside.
jrb
June 8th, 2007, 09:00 PM
New website on it's way.
http://www.piccadillybasin.com/thanks.htm
GreenwichSE10
June 8th, 2007, 10:02 PM
Loving the new schemes in this part of Manchester:cheers:
Architecty
June 9th, 2007, 06:52 PM
Issa Quay also had to wait for BDP offices as they join, to finish the cladding.
Do you have inside knowledge on this or just a theory? I cant really see any reason why an adjoining building would have to wait for its partner to be clad, any damage to a finished clad by the BDP contractor would be their problem in any case.
URBANISER
June 19th, 2007, 09:40 PM
Probably not the correct thread, a digger in action in a fenced of area on the corner of Gt Ancoats St and Laystall St, 11 storey blk of flats comes to mind? Looked like whatever it is has got started.
jrb
June 21st, 2007, 08:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3960.jpg
Comdot
June 22nd, 2007, 04:04 AM
Now we're getting all this stuff by the stations isn't it time we brought some more lines back into use? We all know rail is cheap as fuck really.
Comdot
June 22nd, 2007, 04:23 AM
Issa Quay is being clad. You can see the cladding through the scaffolding in places. Slow work though. Issa Quay also had to wait for BDP offices as they join, to finish the cladding.
My money is on them finishing around the same time, at least from the outside.
Any structural engineers here know if they have to leave the building to settle before measuring up the cladding as it's by water? I remember 30 St Mary's Axe the glass at the bottom cracked due to an oversight where the building sunk/ the steel compressed. Expensive! Let's not forget the shouty-but-wobbly millenium bridge over the Thamesm where they had to put harmonic ressonance dampeners (or whatever) in at great cost.
chompo44
June 22nd, 2007, 01:42 PM
everything settles, even if the foundations are huge and deep. Usually a maximum settlement would be agreed and the architect would detail for this maximum movement.then hopefully there wouldn't be a problem with the glazing. There is no reason for them to wait for settlement of the building as this is a continual process
lexy1968
July 3rd, 2007, 04:52 PM
The cladding is finally coming off Issa Quay!!!
man med
July 3rd, 2007, 08:52 PM
off - thats bad...dont mind if the wrapps r comming off though :D
jrb
July 3rd, 2007, 08:57 PM
The cladding is finally coming off Issa Quay!!!
Bashar swears by it.
http://www.screwfix.com/sfd/i/cat/26/p3449226_l.jpg
Chogmook
July 3rd, 2007, 09:04 PM
^^lets hope he doesn't use it 164m up on Canopus, it's windy up there!
SleepyOne
July 6th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Two substantial planning applications have been submitted by developer Town Centre Securities for residentail / mixed use blocks fronting the canal basin opposite the IVLA store.
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JK70XSBCK3000&searchtype=WEEKLY
083680/FO/2007/C3
Land Bounded By Tariff Street, Rochdale Canal And Marina
Piccadilly Basin
Manchester
Erection of new building (part 6 / part 9 storeys) comprising ground and upper ground floor restaurant (Use Class A3) and 58 residential units (Use Class C3)
and
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JK6Y6ZBCK3000&searchtype=WEEKLY
083678/FO/2007/C3
Land Bounded By Great Ancoats Street, Port Street, Tariff Street And The Rochdale Canal
Piccadilly Basin
Manchester
Erection of 6 storey building comprising 2 blocks with ground (plus mezzanine) floor retail uses (Use Class A1) with 159 residential units above (Use Class C3) together with ancillary parking, servicing, public space and landscaping
Neither of them are available to download just yet but it is good to see some substantial proposals submitted for this area that will form the missing link between Piccadilly Basin and the Northern Quarter and spreading development right up to the inner ring road. It will also plug a significant hole in the area's urban fabric. Lets hope the architecture is up to scratch, standing up to the precedent set by Vantage Quay which is one of the best apartment blocks in the city in my humble opinion.
SleepyOne
July 9th, 2007, 10:10 PM
Most of the documents of the above two applications are available to download now.
http://i12.tinypic.com/66onz39.jpg
Really rather cool set of buildings proposed for these two large sites in Piccadilly Basin. Architects are Ian Simpson for both.
Intersting how the foot print for the building opposite IVLA is huge but the mass has been broken up quite inventively employing a multitude of different heights and extensive green and brown roofs. Very strong frontage to Great Ancoats St and large double height retail units throughout. Nice public pedestrian street running from the canal through the new development and Brownsfield Mill to Tariff St. Exactly the sort of building they should have erected on the ILVA site actually.
The second application relates to the site opposite Vantage Quay. Shame to see that little green patch disappear - though that was an inevitibility really. New build on that is is 6 storeys fronting the canal and Moon bar and an 9 storey section to the rear of Tariff St and Jackson's Warehouse.
The two proposals seem to relate to each other rather well and plug two gaping holes in the urban fabric very well. Much prefer these buildings to Origin on Princess St although a very different set of circumstances.
http://i15.tinypic.com/4ver04z.jpg
jrb
July 9th, 2007, 10:22 PM
Just to follow on from Sleepy's post. (had a look) Artists impressions.
Superb!
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/selecteddoc.aspx?083678-DAI-0001.pdf
jrb
July 9th, 2007, 10:28 PM
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/selecteddoc.aspx?083680-DPE-0001.pdf
ricsinsk9y
July 10th, 2007, 08:42 AM
These, and other developments in this half-derelict area, have to be some of the most exciting at the moment and should have real impact on this side of town.
Let's face it, the Ancoats - Piccadilly axis is still pretty shitty. Despite the plethora of development going on in this area, anyone new to Manchester driving up Ancoats is hardly going to be that impressed with the sea of dereliction looking across to Piccadilly. It's a slow process, but sooner or later, the number of shiny, trendy, new buildings will start to out-number the old derelict sites and the city centre will be truly extended out and beyond Ancoats. An excting thought don't you think?
flange
July 10th, 2007, 11:58 AM
New plans for Piccadilly Basin
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5209/piccadillybasinia4.jpg
SUSTAINABILITY: Artist's impression
THE Leeds-based developers behind the £250m rebuilding of Piccadilly Basin have unveiled plans for another 60,000 sq ft of offices and shops.
Two planning applications have been submitted for the next phase of the Town Centre Securities' Piccadilly Basin regeneration scheme.
The first is for a 12,165 sq ft restaurant, with 58 apartments above it, and the second for a larger mixed-use application, with 4,166 sq ft of offices, 40,300 sq ft of retail space and an additional 159 apartments.
Richard Lewis, development director of Town Centre Securities, said: "We have submitted the planning for the retail village at Piccadilly Basin and are looking forward to emulating the success of the existing elements of the scheme with this latest phase.
"The retail units and additional apartments will superbly complement the existing offering and will further cement the scheme as a true mixed use development.
Green agenda
"All elements of the scheme are progressing well, and we have taken great care to extend our commitment to sustain-ability and the green agenda to this new phase."
The latest move follows the refurbishment of the historic, listed Carvers Warehouse.
The project will create five floors of office space around a glazed circulation core. The refurbishment is due for completion later this year.
Work is also nearing completion on the the 31,450 sq ft headquarters building for BDP Architects. Detailed planning consent been granted for Phase Two of the offices, the 87,583 sq ft Eider House, designed by Ian Simpson Architects.
Office agents on the scheme are Lambert Smith Hampton and Cushman & Wakefield, with Knight Frank representing the new residential element.
Project architect for the scheme is Matthew Ayres from Manchester practice Ian Simpson Architects.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/business/s/1010/1010902_new_plans_for_piccadilly_basin.html
highriser
July 11th, 2007, 12:37 AM
I was'nt expecting that plot facing Vantage Quay to be built on , for some reason i thought the Simo apartments were for the land where that little cafe on the corner is .
And was'nt that a really nice midrise planned for the Piccadilly Block 1 space ?fronting Gt Ancoats St
( cant find the bloody render )
http://i15.tinypic.com/4ver04z.jpg
highriser
July 12th, 2007, 09:32 PM
The scaffolding on the Ducie St side is now down on Issa Quay ,, it looks very neat ,
flange
July 12th, 2007, 09:40 PM
the website has now been relaunched for Piccadilly Basin
http://www.piccadillybasin.com/
highriser
July 12th, 2007, 09:52 PM
If you go to gallery there are some small render's that have'nt been seen before ,for some reason you cant enlarge em , unless one of you computer whizz kids can :),im not sure about that Simo effort fronting Gt Ancoats St
skymann
July 13th, 2007, 09:10 AM
the website has now been relaunched for Piccadilly Basin
http://www.piccadillybasin.com/
Does the Ancoats residential building in this scheme (boring flat 5 storey job with "Modern" on it) replace the original Simpson design (the one that looked like a version of the CJC building but about 12 storeys)? It would be a shame if it's all low rise on Gt Ancoats St - we need more curtain wall and height along here not more buildings the height of ILVA!
I'm hoping that the mini CJC design is further down on Houldsworth street near Lever Street - just seems a bit odd that both would be off houldsworth street and both be designed by Ian Simpson. Let's hope we're talking about two different buildings here and the mini CJC hasn't been scupperred.
The Longford
July 13th, 2007, 10:13 AM
Us heritage nazis are pretty strict about the heights of buildings round here and at the moment we seem to winning at Piccadilly Basin. I personally think keeping a uniformity of height around the basin is important and let talls have other sites.
Chogmook
July 13th, 2007, 10:16 AM
Guess Piccadilly Tower slipped through the net there then, by some 50-odd floors!
The Longford
July 13th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Guess Piccadilly Tower slipped through the net there then, by some 50-odd floors!
'Round the basin' choggers -'round the basin'!
Pay attention at the back!
Chogmook
July 13th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Hehe, i'm only jesting!
Smaller buildings around the basin do of course make the expanse of water seem bigger than being surrounded by talls, which would make it become like a insignificant 'pond'!
Which is why the Irwell feels like a canal, being surrounded by 15+ storey buldings on either side!
The Longford
July 13th, 2007, 10:35 AM
Hehe, i'm only jesting!
Smaller buildings around the basin do of course make the expanse of water seem bigger than being surrounded by talls, which would make it become like a insignificant 'pond'!
I thought you may be!
Yes the amount of water does need to be substantial to set off tall buildings properly.
Salford Quays and Canary Wharf yes. A piddly little canal no.
highriser
July 23rd, 2007, 09:37 PM
They've started fitting in the windows of the BDP office block next to Issa Quay .
Chogmook
July 23rd, 2007, 09:55 PM
And theres formwork going in on the site next to ILVA
jrb
July 29th, 2007, 04:11 PM
Though I'd put this one in here. Not quite Piccadilly Basin, but close enough.(across the road) Drove around town this morning(5.30am) on my way home from work. Drove past Piccadilly Basin and turned right onto Great Ancoats Street, directly opposite the entrance to the hideous Ancoats retail park. To the right of the traffic lights excavation and piling work is taking place.(big time) The site is behind the proposed 13 storey hotel.(see below) Did a bit of investigation on the Planning portal and came up with the (only) possible proposal for this site?(below) Link to planning application below map and renders.
http://www.swfoulkesarchitects.com/images/ancoats01.jpg
Site Of Former Laystall House
Laystall Street
City
RESERVED MATTERS APPLICATION for external appearance and landscaping following approval of Outline Application 068295/OO/2003/C3
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/2-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/6-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/4-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/3-1.jpg
http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/MCCList1.aspx?078448/MO/2006/C3
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