Central Salford Developments [Archive] - Page 3

highriser

December 1st, 2006, 07:32 PM

2 big applications gone in today .

Reference: 06/53596/OUT
Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: Ask Property Developments Ltd And Network Rail
Ward: Ordsall
Grid Reference: 383630 398850
Case Officer: Tim Hartley
Telephone: 0161 779 4835
Location: Land Bounded By River Irwell, Chapel Street, Blackfriars Road And Former Liverpool To Manchester Railway Line Salford 3
Proposal: Outline planning application for the redevelopment of the site comprising of six residential blocks rising from 8 to 20 storeys in height, three B1 office blocks rising from 9 to 18 storeys, 20 storey hotel/residential block, a maximum of 2499 sq.m of A1 floorspace and a maximum of 6081 sq.m of retail/commercial floorspace at ground and first floors plus associated car parking and highway alterations

Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: Chapel Investment Holdings Ltd
Ward: Irwell Riverside
Grid Reference: 382571 398632
Case Officer: Kurt Partington
Telephone: 0161 779 4839
Location: Land Behind Salford Royal Hospital Bounded By Adelphi Street, Upper Cleminson Street And Wilton Place Salford 3
Proposal: Erection of part 3, 5, 12 and 14 storey building with two levels of basement car parking to provide 7 town houses and 183 apartments and 949 sq.m commercial floorspace together with construction of new and alteration to existing vehicular access

SleepyOne

December 1st, 2006, 08:11 PM

The standard of finish and attention to detail on Time&Tide development's 'Approach' building on Blackfriar's street looks really good everytime I go past it. Bodes well for their 29 storey development at Great Ancoats St.

Norb

December 1st, 2006, 08:30 PM

That first one of highriser's is the site of the former "Exchange" railway station isn't it?

SleepyOne

December 1st, 2006, 08:42 PM

That first one of highriser's is the site of the former "Exchange" railway station isn't it?

Yes the outline application is available to view. Looks very good but a bit of refinement on the massing of the large block fronting Chapel St in my view. It is actually wedge shaped and maybe this doesn't come over well in some of the renders but it does appear rather blocky from some angles. Im sure this will all come out in the full application stage. Other than this, looks like a highly promising proposal.

Manchester Planner

December 2nd, 2006, 07:08 PM

A few taken today from Manchester:

http://pichotel.com/pic/4750g5mlQ/97026.jpg

http://pichotel.com/pic/4750g5mlQ/97023.jpg

jrb

December 21st, 2006, 10:58 PM

Chester Developments.

Article featuring an impressive looking proposal/render in todays MEN. Unfortunately I left the paper at work but I'll scan the article and post it tomorrow night.

Worsley Point is a classic example of Chester Developments foresight into the future. We have an opportunity here to clean up and develop a disused contaminated Brownfield site which has been sitting derelict for the last five years. It is our intention to work with Salford City Council and the community of Patricroft, Monton and Eccles to turn this ten acre site, next to world renowned Bridgewater Canal, into a thriving community where people from all walks of life can live in harmony in this new Eco friendly village.

It is hoped that we can create an urban eco village with rainwater harvesting from the gardens and roof surfaces stored in tanks in the foundations of the apartments and solar panels on the roofs which can then run the services of a typical one bedroom apartment for three months as well as sustainable building materials which will also reduce costs in the long term for the community.

It is our intention to create a residential environment which we believe will be pioneering not only in Salford or Greater Manchester but in the North West of England.

http://www.chesterdevelopments.com/pages/worsley.shtml

jrb

December 22nd, 2006, 09:57 PM

A ray of light amongst the recent dross we've been seeing. Hopefully Salford's councillor's 'will' see sense and give this exciting proposal the green light?

BSC and Arca take note.(hint)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/azx-1.jpg

The Longford

December 23rd, 2006, 12:37 AM

jrb

December 23rd, 2006, 12:57 AM

Dont be fooled jrbreenpeace!
This is just a cynical ploy to get round a planning hurdle.
Stick a few windmills in and try and get the Council to overrule their own UDP.
People throw in words like 'derelict' and 'eyesore' to stir things up and bad decisions are made.

With all due respect Longy, I'd rather see that derelict land developed instead of being left like that for years to come.

The Longford

December 23rd, 2006, 01:38 AM

With all due respect Longy, I'd rather see that derelict land developed instead of being left like that for years to come.

With all due respect its not as simple as that. A short term quick fix doesnt over ride the the fact that the UDP has this designated as commercial - probably for good reason.
So they havent found a viable commercial scheme for the site?
Try harder!
I would like to think the UDP is in place to control development in Salford and positively benefit the city. A land grab by large scale house builders on all available sites is not the answer in creating a well balanced, long term economic structure.
There is no point in having a city full of flats if there is nowhere for the people who live in them to work.

jrb

December 23rd, 2006, 02:03 AM

With all due respect its not as simple as that. A short term quick fix doesnt over ride the the fact that the UDP has this designated as commercial - probably for good reason.
So they havent found a viable commercial scheme for the site?
Try harder!
I would like to think the UDP is in place to control development in Salford and positively benefit the city. A land grab by large scale house builders on all available sites is not the answer in creating a well balanced, long term economic structure.
There is no point in having a city full of flats if there is nowhere for the people who live in them to work.

Fair point.

I'm still of the opinion that derelict land is wasted land. If a commercial use can't be found for the site, then it should be developed for housing.

The Longford

December 23rd, 2006, 02:12 AM

I'm still of the opinion that derelict land is wasted land.

Well i'm not!
Its not 'derelict' - its just 'resting'.

The Longford

December 24th, 2006, 07:14 PM

Lets see if this works

slash and burn (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/231/231552_1200_council_houses_to_get_a_modern_makeover.html)

jrb

January 2nd, 2007, 09:01 PM

Longford wins the day.

£40m 'green' development axed

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/100.$plit/C_17_Articles_232005_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg

BITTER: Anthony Hirsch

A GREEN council has rejected plans for an eco-friendly housing estate. Developers had submitted plans for a £40m project to build 300 homes on the site of the former Mitchell Shackleton factory in Eccles.

The site has been derelict for three years but Salford councillors voted by seven to four against it.

The veto comes despite the city's credentials for pioneering recycling and switching its 400-vehicle fleet to environmentally-friendly bio-diesel fuel.

Chester Developments - the company behind the scheme - had said the 10-acre site, which borders the M602 at Monton, would have wind turbines to supply energy, rainwater harvesting, use of solar energy and recycling facilities.

Council planning boss Coun Derek Antrobus defended the decision saying that the land is designated for commercial development in the district plan. But Eccles councillors - including deputy council leader Coun David Lancaster and cabinet member Coun Eddie Sheehy - spoke in support of the scheme, though they are not members of the committee and could not vote.

Coun Antrobus said: "The application from Chester Developments was just for outline planning permission for residential use.

"The only information about their 'eco-homes' has been in terms of their marketing. It did not form part of the application.

Assessment

"Our assessment is that the company would be doing nothing more than they would be required to do by latest planning guidance and building regulations.

"Without imputing motives to this particular developer, it would not be unknown for an applicant to secure value for their site by acquiring outline planning permission and then selling it on at a profit.

"The company's marketing does not guarantee the nature of the detailed application."

Coun Antrobus said the plan was refused because it conflicted with the Unitary Development Plan (UDP), which allocated the site for employment.

He said: "The government inspector who considered the UDP made it clear that there was a shortage of employment land to meet demand over the next 15 years.

"The Eccles councillors were taking a short-term view regarding the use of the land. We have to take a longer-term view.

"Had the panel been minded to approve the application, they would have had to refer it to the Secretary of State as a departure from the plan.

"He has turned down previous attempts to do this at Linnyshaw Moss and Swinton. Even if the panel wanted to approve, I am 100 per cent certain he would have turned it down."

Anthony Hirsch, from Chester Developments, said: "I am very frustrated. I am bitter because local residents wanted something doing with the site.

"We have been spending £1,000 a week on security there but have stopped because it has not stopped people getting in and stripping metals and slates from buildings. I will reflect on the situation but we have two options - to appeal or sell the site."

He said that for five years his company had tried to market the site for commercial use, but there was no interest.

jrb

January 2nd, 2007, 09:03 PM

Landmarks with two very different futures

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/173.$plit/C_17_Articles_232003_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg

PLANS: United Reform Church

TWO Salford landmarks are facing very different futures. The Salford Central United Reformed Church, on the corner of Trafford Road and Broadway in Ordsall, is likely to be bulldozed.

The site is needed for a new £25m school, to be linked to the planned Media City at Salford Quays.

But the future is brighter for another of the city's landmarks after it has stood empty for 15 years.

The Brown Brothers building, which dates back to 1876, stands at the gateway to Manchester city centre in the heart of Salford's Chapel Street regeneration area. It had been expected that the building would play a key role in the renaissance of Chapel Street and the A6 corridor.

Meanwhile, the United Reformed Church is negotiating a long lease with the Oasis Trust, a Christian foundation chosen by Salford city council bosses to run the school.

It would be the city's second academy.

It would be a replacement for Hope High School and specialise in media and business and enterprise studies.

Steve Chalke, of Oasis, said: "We have negotiated with the church and they have given us a long lease on the land, which will give us use of it for the school. But in return, something will be provided within the school buildings for a place of worship for the church."

Peter Brain, Moderator of the North West Synod of the United Reformed Church, said: "My personal view is that I can't see how the existing church can remain. It is not listed and internally is in a poor decorative condition."

But Leslie Holmes, a community artist, who has a studio in the building, said: "Another Salford landmark will be wiped out. I think consideration should be given for retaining some of it - maybe the frontage."

The Brown Brothers building, however, was put back on the market in June last year for £1.5m.

With outline planning permission for mixed use - residential and business - it has now been snapped up by Artisan UK Plc, which has interests in residential development and business parks.

No detailed plans have yet been submitted to the city council however.

The Longford

January 2nd, 2007, 09:11 PM

SleepyOne

January 11th, 2007, 11:00 PM

A nice large image of the Space Developments' scheme at Springfield Lane by HKR.

http://i12.tinypic.com/2hcez3p.jpg

MVITA

January 11th, 2007, 11:28 PM

I live in the flats you can just see on the left, there were some blokes in high vis jackets with clipboards looking round the site last Friday, hopefully they will start knocking down the old factory soon although i can no longer access spacedevelopments site.

SleepyOne

January 20th, 2007, 05:27 PM

Adelphi Street

Does this one have planning consent? I seem to remember reading the planners not liking one of the large developments around here. Not sure whether it was this one or not.

Interesting to hear about the potential collaboration with Alsop architects. Somehow I can't imagine Alsop has had any input into the design pictured below:

Manchester - Adelphi Street, Salford

http://www.vermontdevelopments.com/assets/images/img_adelphi_sm.jpg

Close to the new Salford University arts and media campus, this £40m high specification development, offers investors and local employees an ideal location.

The development will be phased and will include a dramatic residential tower, a result of a colaboration between DTR Architects of Manchester and the internationally renowned Alsop Architects. The scheme comprises:

223 residential apartments
110 car parking spaces
1272 sq. m office accomodation
Associated public realm works

http://www.vermontdevelopments.com/ourvision/residential/adelphi.html

highriser

January 20th, 2007, 08:21 PM

What is planned for the rest of the Spectrum site ,, went past today and one of them drill machines were hard at work further up Blackfriars .

URBANISER

January 20th, 2007, 08:34 PM

Highriser I think this will be the other half of what is nearly finished now. I'm sure the original plans showed 4/5 blocks in a line along Blackfriers up to the Trinity junction.

jrb

January 27th, 2007, 11:53 PM

Think the PDF's may be new or updated? References/recent renders of Greengate and Mediacity.

This render below has been seen before. Quite a while back. But the article below it gives a clearer explanation about the eventual plan for a Corporate Centre.

Sounds like another business district, nest to Spinngfields and Greengate.

Corporate centre.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/asq-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/yuo.jpg

Lots of information and plans. Especially 'The Vision and Regeneration Framework document.

http://www.centralsalford.com/site/salfords_new_vision_1.php

Chogmook

January 28th, 2007, 12:09 AM

More pics!

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/1204586844.jpg

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/770184233.jpg

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/686002772.jpg

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/1421877912.jpg

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/1057468088.jpg

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/1369611455.jpg

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/818122201.jpg

WeasteDevil

January 28th, 2007, 12:13 AM

Are they reclading the Salford Shopping City tower in shiny glass now? :lol:

And what the hell are those 60m tall Braun electric shavers clad in Birmingham Selfridges discs supposed to be?

Accura4Matalan

January 28th, 2007, 12:53 AM

Are they reclading the Salford Shopping City tower in shiny glass now? :lol:
Grrr... HANDS OFF! That is one of the best towers in Manchester. All it needs is a clean.

I see that Tesco's are making their mark in Pendleton...

Manchester Planner

January 28th, 2007, 01:31 AM

What ridiculous renders.

URBANISER

January 28th, 2007, 02:13 AM

I think the tree colours have been imported from New England USA. Maybe this is in anticipation of the effects of climate change on our vegetation! Certainly the ETs seem to like it, I assume those are giant space ships?

Manchester Planner

January 28th, 2007, 02:16 AM

The effects of climate change on English vegetation won't change much here in Manchester as there isn't much greenery in the city centre anyway (and most of the green spaces we do have will soon be built over)! ;)

TheGrand

January 28th, 2007, 12:30 PM

Sweet Jesus

Manc Guy

January 28th, 2007, 06:46 PM

I see that Tesco's are making their mark in Pendleton...

There already there accy.

If this ever came to fruition, then wow. I cant imagine the Salford prescient (which is now my local) ever receiving that scale of redevelopment though, huge task!

ferge

January 28th, 2007, 07:20 PM

I'm getting tired of all these silly lamposts and bubbles being planned everywhere as if to change the way humanity will habit the earth..

All these silly conceptual shaped towers and stuff, just build somet thats chuffin tall, elegent and does the job, instead of thinking about making us all look like we're from tomorrow's world.

DanS10

January 28th, 2007, 08:33 PM

Oh come on guys, this is clearly nowhere near the final proposals. This sort of design work is used mainly to generate an image that will help to gain excitement and ultimately investment for this area. Its a way of them saying "hey look what an exciting, vibrant, up and coming area this is - come spend your beans here etc."

ferge

January 29th, 2007, 09:44 PM

I'm aware of 'concepts' and their idea, but I just dont get why they have to be so absurd and unrealistic, lol

Irwell

January 30th, 2007, 02:16 AM

Since when has Manchester had so many hot air balloons floating around?

The Longford

January 30th, 2007, 11:46 AM

Since when has Manchester had so many hot air balloons floating around?

You would have your ballooning licence (if there is such a thing) taken away if you came anywhere near a major urban area i'm sure.
Perhaps in the future we will all have hot air balloons to get past the congestion charge?

Norb

January 30th, 2007, 06:04 PM

the MEN had a hot air balloon over the city centre last autumn

Chogmook

January 30th, 2007, 09:26 PM

Since when has Manchester had so many hot air balloons floating around?

http://static.flickr.com/55/148411936_2d8d4e18fb_o.jpg

:)

The Longford

January 30th, 2007, 09:34 PM

I stand (float) corrected!

Vince Noir

January 30th, 2007, 11:36 PM

Hopefully this will go ahead sooner rather than later. Salford Central does exactly what it says on the tin - it's certainly central to a lot of things going on either side of the river.

Salford Central Station Upgrade Phase 2

The innermost part of the borough of Salford increasingly functions as
part of the Regional Centre. Public transport facilities have not caught up with
this change. The only station in the part of Salford within the Manchester and
Salford Inner Relief Road is Salford Central. Trains on the line to Liverpool
via Newton-le-Willows cannot use the station, which limits the accessibility of
the Chapel Street area of Salford.

• New platforms serving the existing tracks of the Manchester Victoria –
Liverpool line;
• A new entrance route to Trinity Way;
• New facilities on the station concourse.

The capital cost is estimated at £4.4m (2004 prices) and the benefit to
cost ratio, after inflating the capital costs by the DfT’s recommended
“optimism bias”, is estimated at 1.1. This depends on the restoration of the 30
minute service headway from Manchester Victoria to Liverpool.

MVITA

February 5th, 2007, 02:06 PM

A nice large image of the Space Developments' scheme at Springfield Lane by HKR.

http://i12.tinypic.com/2hcez3p.jpg

Workers have turned up on site this morning and cordened off the old factory for demolition.

jrb

February 5th, 2007, 11:38 PM

Some good news. :)

BTW, can someone please fix the server, it's playing up again.

Church could be saved from the bulldozers

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/421.$plit/C_17_Articles_235238_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg

Salford Central United Reform Church A SALFORD landmark could be saved from demolition after a U-turn by developers.

The Salford Central United Reformed Church, in Ordsall, is on a site needed for a new £25m school to be linked to the planned Media City at Salford Quays.

It was expected that the church would be bulldozed, but developers of the school have now submitted revised plans which would retain the church. And these have been approved by the council's planning committee.

The church, on Trafford Road, has been in talks with the Oasis Trust, a Christian foundation chosen by Salford council to run the school, which will be the city's second academy - a replacement for Hope High in Pendleton.

Formerly known as the Central Mission, the red-brick and stone Edwardian building is 100 years old and, although not listed, is on the council's list of buildings of historical importance. It is still used as a church and has three shops occupying the ground level.

The building is now expected to be retained in the final design for the school.

A report to councillors said: "Its value is identified as being in its tremendous townscape presence at this important gateway to the Quays, the architectural quality of its impressive façade and its historical association with the Ordsall community."

When it first opened, it also provided education and health care facilities.

The school will specialise in media and business enterprise studies. Its construction will require the demolition of the Broadway Industrial Estate.

SleepyOne

February 5th, 2007, 11:47 PM

You beat me to it jrb.

The 'planning lunacy' thread has been deleted unfortunately. Brilliant result though isn't it? I particularly like the quote

A report to councillors said: "Its value is identified as being in its tremendous townscape presence at this important gateway to the Quays, the architectural quality of its impressive façade and its historical association with the Ordsall community."

which goes against their reasoning for demolishing it in the first place.

Well done to Salford City Council and Urban Vision. I'm glad to see sense has prevailed. I'm now looking forward to seeing how it will be incorporated into a stunning and innovative new school design. The city of Salford will be much the 'richer' for retaining this great building and bringing it back into use. I think the example I posted of the Harpurhey College and Library is a particularly apt example of how it can be done with panache.

The Longford

February 6th, 2007, 12:31 AM

What with Trafford Town hall and now this i'll be out of a job if this outbreak of sanity continues.
Whatever next? A listed Odeon?
Nah!

I'll keep tabs on this and i'll believe it when i see it but credit to Salford (esp the conservation team who pushed for this) for seeing sense.

nerd

February 7th, 2007, 02:58 AM

Escellent work Longford.

And good sense from Salford too

Manchester Planner

February 7th, 2007, 02:19 PM

And good sense from Salford too

Surely that should be...

Good Sense IN Salford

;)

Farsight

February 7th, 2007, 03:37 PM

"It was expected that the church would be bulldozed, but developers of the school have now submitted revised plans which would retain the church".

Makes sense. There's no point losing a building that could be buffed up and made good. Mind you, I hope they tart up that back wall, and I'd be interested to get the fly-on-the-wall low down on what happened.

Northbeach

February 8th, 2007, 12:35 PM

IT Salford? More good news for 'Sally':

One of world's most advanced IT innovation labs to open in Salford.
07/02/2007

A futuristic virtual environment centre - one of the most advanced in the world and unique in Europe - is to be officially launched by Salford MP Hazel Blears at the University of Salford on Friday February 16th.
Hazel Blears will cut a virtual ribbon at the University's Think Lab, a state-of-the-art facility that harnesses leading ICT developments to solve current and future challenges of industry, commerce and the community.

Delegates, including leading national business figures, will be given demonstrations of the centre's latest technology, including cutting edge video conferencing, 3D visualisation, robotics and an optical tracking system capable of identifying human motion and marked objects within its workspace.

On display will be a tele-operated robot hand, a robotic gorilla capable of playing football, and the latest developments in a €12.3m European project directed by the University focussed on developing workspaces of the future.

Hazel Blears MP said: "Salford University is once again at the forefront of innovation and creativity, leading the world in harnessing the latest ICT developments for the benefit of the whole community.

"I am absolutely delighted that the University is at the cutting edge and I know the centre will be a great asset in attracting more business, investment and jobs to the city and help boost even further, the regeneration which is taking place in Salford. This is another positive step forward for Salford and its people."

Director of the Think Lab, Professor Peter Brandon added: "These unique facilities are capable of revolutionising the way we interact and do business.

"The Think Lab is already engaged in some of the world's leading research in fields such as virtual urban planning, creative games design and workspace technology. The possibilities for industry are huge."

Researchers at the Think Lab are already planning collaborative projects with other virtual environment centres worldwide and are looking for business partners who will benefit from the facilities.

Peter said: "The Think Lab offers a wealth of opportunities for cutting edge research in the international arena. It is designed for interaction and collaboration and we look forward to applying its innovative technology to industry.

"We are delighted to welcome Hazel and our delegates to this launch event."

The Longford

February 8th, 2007, 12:45 PM

Is you highlighting some sort of Da Vinci Code skullduggery?
'Hazel Blears, a robotic gorilla, will be cutting the edge of a virtual ribbon'

Ive met hazel blears, she is more like a robotic chipmunk if anything.

Northbeach

February 8th, 2007, 12:54 PM

She does have a bit of chipmunk about here. I can only imagine the sound of her chomping on a snickers bar in the vicinity...or should that be da vincinity?
There are a lot of cutting edges/virtuals in that report, thankfully no going forwards or Tom Hanks'isms.

jrb

February 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM

Outline planning application. Link below.

06/53888/DEEM3

Land Bounded By Trafford Road, The Broadway And King William Street
Salford 5

DESCRIPTION: Outline application with all matters reserved for a new secondary school and sixth form college for 1150 pupils with associated car parking, outdoor play space and sports facilities (Access, Layout, Scale, Landscaping and Appearance reserved)

http://documents.salford.gov.uk/docs/53888.pdf

kids

February 8th, 2007, 11:42 PM

Nice one jrb, let's hope it's better than the last one ey.

jrb

February 8th, 2007, 11:45 PM

Nice one jrb, let's hope it's better than the last one ey.

Let's hope so Kids. :)

WeasteDevil

February 9th, 2007, 01:48 AM

Is Batley's going?

SleepyOne

February 9th, 2007, 02:09 AM

I notice that the future of the building is still not assured as this revised proposal has only been offered up as an "alternative" but I guess its extremely encouraging that this has happened at all.

Still not convinced they have a sound grasp of what quality design actually means. I notice that the revised outline proposal is for a 4 storey extension fronting Broadway and a 3 storey extension fronting Trafford Road but separated by a visual and acoustic landscaping strip. Why ruin the strong frontage to Trafford Road by setting the new-build back from the road? Buildings can be acousitcally insulated without the need for physical separation however what is the justification of deliberately obscuring it from view and compromising the streetscene?

Also, I may be wrong but from a quick glance at the outline drawings it doesn't look like either of these new elements have the potential to be nearly as powerful and imposing as the original church building. Where has this ridiculous notion come about that buildings need to be as inconspicuous as possible anway? Any new-build element needs to visually balance the existing church building which is an extremely powerful form, appearing an equal partner rather than a timid and ill conceived extension which will only compromise the integrity of both new and old.

I know this is only an outline application. Hopefully whatever architects are appointed to take the design forward can come up with a workable and inspiring solution.

TheGrand

February 10th, 2007, 09:39 PM

Transport leaders visit site of new-look Salford Central
Published on Thursday, 08 February 2007

Greater Manchester's transport leaders visited Salford Central station on Wednesday to watch the foundations for the new-look station being put in place.

A section of the old station building has already been demolished as part of a multi-million pound transformation. The £5 million project began two months ago and it is expected to play a major part in the regeneration of the surrounding area.

The work is being funded by Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Authority (GMPTA) with additional funding being provided by the European Regional Development Fund. The project is due to be finished next winter.

GMPTA Chair Councillor Roger Jones said: "This is the first phase of what we hope will be a complete transformation of Salford Central. We're adding a new glass front to the existing station building to create a much better entrance and to make it lighter inside.

"We're also putting in a new lift and ticket office as well as improving passenger information and access to the station. Work is progressing well and I'm looking forward to seeing the finished result.

"The £5 million transformation of Salford Central will be a major boost for the economies in both Manchester and Salford. I'm sure it will encourage more people to use public transport."

Network Rail is managing the project on behalf of Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive (GMPTE). Route Director Peter Strachan said: "Network Rail and the Railway Heritage Trust have recently spent £2 million refurbishing three cast iron bridges on New Bailey Street outside the station, returning them to their former glory.

"Now the station is being transformed into something fit for the 21st century, fusing old with new to create a station that the people of Salford can be justly proud of."

Transport bosses want to transform Salford Central into a state-of-the-art station to reflect its importance to the region. More than £100 million has already been invested in projects near the station in the last few years.

Nearby regeneration schemes have included the People's History Museum, the Lowry Hotel, Chapel Wharf and The Edge. The eight railway arches on Chapel Street have also been refurbished.

A new public address system, customer information screens and CCTV are being installed at Salford Central as part of the project. Taxi and bus facilities are also being upgraded and new ramps and lifts will make it easier to access the station.

GMPTA is investing £3.85 million in the scheme to transform Salford Central station with a further £1.1 million being provided by the European Regional Development Fund. The fund is being managed by Manchester Enterprises, the economic development agency for Greater Manchester.

Evening services started calling at Salford Central in Summer 2005 for the first time in more than a decade. The station used to close at 7pm but services now call at it until 11.30pm on Fridays and Saturdays, and until 10pm between Monday and Thursday.

Manchester's free city centre bus service, Metroshuttle, also now calls at Salford Central every ten minutes from 7am to 7pm between Monday and Saturday.

markydeedrop

February 12th, 2007, 08:45 PM

A DEVELOPMENT of 1,000 apartments at Salford Quays won't include `affordable' housing for low-income families, despite a tough new council policy.

Last year Salford council blocked plans for four 26-storey blocks on land off Michigan Avenue.

Councillors were concerned that the proposal didn't feature an `appropriate mix' of residential accommodation and would not provide social housing reserved for rent or equity sharing.

Leeds-based K.W. Linfoot has now revised the scheme drastically, but it still does not include any affordable or social housing.

Despite this, the Labour-controlled council has approved the plans.

A report says the inclusion of affordable housing would have made the scheme `commercially unviable'.

Also, as the initial application was submitted in October 2006, it pre-dated the council's new hard-line policy which was introduced late last year.

New planning guidance adopted by the council - giving more control over the type of housing being built - saw proposals for the 1,164 flats rejected in December.

The M.E.N. has reported how hundreds of new homes in Salford and Manchester are being left empty as speculators try to cash in on rising house prices.

The council first rejected the Quays scheme on the grounds that it involved too many one-bedroomed apartments and not enough two and three-bedroomed flats.

Now the firm has changed the scheme and the new version for 1,036 apartments has been given planning permission.

The number of `smart crash pads' has been reduced from 184 to 132, and one-bedroomed studio apartments have been slashed from 668 to 380.

The number of two-bedroomed apartments has increased from 284 to 460, and three-beds from 28 to 64.

The developer's spokesman, Richard Dean, said: "We bought the land before the council's affordable housing policy was brought in, in December.

"We had little opportunity to include an element of affordable housing. The council accepted that it was too late to include it in the scheme."

He said prices could not be released as marketing would not start until March.

But a new one-bedroomed apartment in another development is on sale for a `discount price' of £118,000 and two-bedroomed apartments cost from £250,000.

Coun Derek Antrobus, the city's planning boss, said: "Our policy is clearly beginning to bite and developers are taking notice."

The council wants at least 80 per cent of residential development to be traditional houses in Eccles, Swinton, Worsley, Brough- ton Park, Claremont and parts of Weaste and Seedley.

Only in the regional centre, around Chapel Street and Salford Quays, will flats be the norm.

jrb

February 15th, 2007, 09:24 PM

Another big one gone in today.

07/54149/FUL
Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: LPC Living
Ward: Ordsall
Grid Reference: 381684 397340
Case Officer: Kurt Partington
Telephone: 0161 779 4839
Location: Land To The North Of Ordsall Park Adjacent To Hulton Street Salford
Proposal: New housing development comprising 157 apartments and 103 dwellings together with new access road and associated infrastructure, landscaping and car parking provision
Submit comments on application 07/54149/FUL

http://documents.salford.gov.uk/docs/54149.pdf

highriser

February 19th, 2007, 08:02 PM

abito taking shape,,, funky balconies :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1289.jpg?t=1171908122

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1288.jpg?t=1171908182

skit_uk

February 20th, 2007, 03:18 PM

A bit Gaudi them balconies:)

The Longford

February 20th, 2007, 03:22 PM

A bit Gaudi them balconies:)

A bit giddy you mean? :lol:

markydeedrop

February 22nd, 2007, 09:35 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester130.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester131.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester133.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester128.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester121.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester126.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester136.jpg

Stumbled across these pictures. They were taken from the Premier Travel Inn.

markydeedrop

February 22nd, 2007, 09:40 PM

http://s192798389.websitehome.co.uk/urbex/mancfeb07/h1.jpg

http://s192798389.websitehome.co.uk/urbex/mancfeb07/h2.jpg

http://s192798389.websitehome.co.uk/urbex/mancfeb07/h3.jpg

http://s192798389.websitehome.co.uk/urbex/mancfeb07/h4.jpg

http://s192798389.websitehome.co.uk/urbex/mancfeb07/h5.jpg

http://s192798389.websitehome.co.uk/urbex/mancfeb07/g0.jpg

andysimo123

February 22nd, 2007, 10:04 PM

Where did you find them?

Matt M

February 22nd, 2007, 11:50 PM

I'm impressed by the regeneration of Salford. I've not actually visited, although I've been to Manchester a few times (I live near Wolverhampton). are the planned apartments and other buildings for Salford Quays definately going to be built? The image I saw on the forum looks impressive. Next time I go to Manchester, I'll go into Salford and have to see the Chapel Street developments.

I've read that the well-known Salford tower blocks near the shopping centre were actually built on what was originally a thriving shopping area and community. Councils had stange ideas in the 60s..

cottonopolis

February 23rd, 2007, 09:04 AM

Thanks for the pics. Is anything planned for the area cordened by the yellow fencing??

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rees17/Manchester/premier%20travel%20inn/manchester131.jpg

URBANISER

February 23rd, 2007, 01:08 PM

Looks like there's a bit of a JCB convention going on at the BSC site! Maybe its a training camp before they go on to do some real work!

mr_smith

February 23rd, 2007, 01:15 PM

ahh, but looks better at night if you ask me

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/308590534_94c05358a2.jpg

Legin

February 23rd, 2007, 06:27 PM

New Bellway Development on Springfield Lane

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/20070213-hkrpage.jpg

Last month, Salford was feeling all tickety-boo with the news that the once grotty city is leading the boom in housing value with equity now outweighing mortgage debts by 3.5 times.
And now it has something else to smile about as international architecture and design practice HKR have revealed their flash design for the 11.5 million development on Springfield Lane. It’s located in the Chapel Street regeneration area and is seen as a catalyst for further development.
The design of the building, which is situated on a 1450m sq brownfield site is strikingly modern, constructed from timber frame and clad in dark grey brick. Entrances are highlighted by double height red portals, which glow in the evening, adding to the street life.
The 77 apartments have steel and glass balconies with white brick recesses and all windows are full room height. There are five large private gardens at first floor level as well as two roof gardens on the 5th floor to utilise as much external space as well as ground floor parking.
Jon Matthews, HKR director responsible for the project, who was himself born in Salford Royal Hospital said: "This has been a wonderful project to work on, as it was HKR's first commission. Exciting, well designed, modern developments such as Springfield Lane will fuel the regeneration of the Chapel Street area and help reverse the population migration."
The Chapel Street Regeneration Strategy has attracted significant financial investment and is succeeding in developing a dynamic location, encouraging businesses, investors and developers back into the area, forming a distinct, attractive and safe place for people to live and work.
The site was recently acquired by one of the UK's leading house building companies Bellway Homes, which is about to commence work, with a view to completion in late 2008.
Stan Shreeve, Land Director at Bellway Homes commented: "Bellway has a particularly strong track record in regeneration areas. Like our City Point scheme when it was launched, this development will offer price competitive apartments in a high quality design environment, providing further change and lasting improvement to Chapel Street"
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SleepyOne

February 23rd, 2007, 09:00 PM

Thanks for the pics. Is anything planned for the area cordened by the yellow fencing??

That's the new public park that forms the centrepiece of the Greengate masterplan. There has been a planning application submitted for a series of public realm improvements linking Deansgate, over the river, through the viaduct and onto the new park area.

Manc Guy

February 24th, 2007, 07:38 AM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/308590534_94c05358a2.jpg

Really shows how large Manchester's CDD actually is...

man med

March 10th, 2007, 02:29 AM

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist/planninglist-search.htm

Ask property developments have 2 outline applications in the Salford advertiser

1st planning application, reference number: 53595 file size 129mb

four resi blocks from four to 23 storeys

2nd application, reference number: 53596 file size 220mb

six resi blocks from 8 to 20 storeys...three b1 office from 9 to 18 storeys and a 20 storey hotel - resi

hopo

March 10th, 2007, 01:15 PM

abito is foul what were they thinking?

pc7776

March 12th, 2007, 05:28 PM

Why?
Its better on the eye than some of the surrounding monstrosities!
Full length glass?

Mez

March 13th, 2007, 08:03 PM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/420158228_3eda745326_b.jpg

spectrum

highriser

April 13th, 2007, 02:08 PM

The scaffolding is starting to come down on the Sillivan Way apartments on Chapel St ,, they look very swish

MVITA

April 23rd, 2007, 02:42 PM

I drove down Chapel St earlier and on the corner of East Ordsall Lane where the statue is all the shops there were being demolished, anyone know whats planned for there?

kids

April 24th, 2007, 12:53 AM

13 storey resi. I've got the plans somewhere - i'll have a look.

kids

May 5th, 2007, 01:41 AM

^^ I'll have that soon - the pc is out of use currently, but it'll back with the images..can't find the app.

Meanwhile, did anyone know any this? SCC have complied this site consisting of photographs of what i think is every listed building in the city:

Encombe place:

http://www.salford.gov.uk/8-encombe-pl-01-d78-web2.jpg

An old timber framed building i had no idea about in Eccles:

http://www.salford.gov.uk/halls-bldgs-02-d63-web2.jpg

more here: http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/heritage-and-conservation/listedbuilding/listed-building-register.htm

jrb

May 13th, 2007, 03:26 PM

Chapel Street redevelopment proposals.

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/955.$plit/C_71_article_1006783_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?

Chapel Street to bridge city divide

THE stark contrast between slick Manchester and its shabby neighbour across the River Irwell is about to disappear.

Tens of millions of pounds will be spent to transform the Chapel Street and The Crescent area of Salford.

The cash will come from the English Cities Fund, a regeneration and investment company set up by the government.

It will be used to buy land in the district still scarred by appalling dereliction despite being less than a quarter of a mile away the glitz and boom of Manchester.

The ECF will work with the Central Salford Urban Regeneration Company and the city council to coordinate the redevelopment.

Land and buildings have already been bought by the partnership, which will also build new properties.

It should mean that eyesores like the burnt-out shell of the Ye Olde Nelson pub will finally be erased.

Nearby empty shops and a former solicitors' office have been vandalised.

At the start of The Crescent a former auctioneers stands empty after another fire and the vast former Salford Police HQ is boarded up.

Elsewhere, magnificent examples of Salford's architectural heritage are blighted by neighbouring buildings.

St Philip's Church, a Grade II listed building - featured in works by L S Lowry - is next to a garage and its forecourt. It is intended the garage will be replaced with a new landmark building.

Wider pavements, trees, shops, bars and some pedestrianisation of Chapel Street are planned - making the most of landmarks like Salford Cathedral.

ECF boss Lesley Chalmers said: "The key word for us is `quality'. Blocks of flats go up and no one lives in them. We want to create a place that will last."

The Chapel Street scheme, which also includes the revamping of Salford Central station, will take 15 years.

Asked how much money was to be made available for the project, Mrs Chalmers said: "Whatever is needed. We are looking at creating something that is not piecemeal but for the long term - where people will want to live. We will use compulsory purchase orders when necessary but we want to negotiate. We want people to work with us."

The council-owned Islington estate stands at the heart of the district.

Chris Farrow, Chief Executive, of the URC, said: "The people who live there must have a say. A proportion of the housing that will be built will be affordable. This district is the old heart of Salford and everyone knows it. It is as important a scheme as Media City at the Quays and we must get it right."

Ambitious Amoeba

May 13th, 2007, 04:07 PM

I am told by a reliable source that certain important stakeholders the other week wanted to rebrand the Greengate area and Salford Central station as Manchester. Needless to say it didn't happen when the authority stepped in and said a very firm 'no'. I totally agree with this, it's wise for Salford to be Manchester sometimes, but it's ludicrous to think that Greengate (i.e. old Salford) could ever be permanently marketed as Manchester in lieu of Salford (even "Salford in Manchester: is more preferable to this)

The Longford

May 13th, 2007, 04:31 PM

Say what you like about Salford CC but they are nevergoing to relinquish any 'Salfordness' ....even if it is out of spite!

I like the line above :
"It should mean that eyesores like the burnt-out shell of the Ye Olde Nelson pub will finally be erased."

And they call us nazis!

SleepyOne

May 14th, 2007, 10:10 PM

A bit more on the ECF proposals from their website.

http://www.englishcitiesfund.co.uk/Salford.php

There was an article not so long ago that suggested ECF were to buy the patch of land between Salford Central station and the Irwell (personally I would have loved to have seen Allied London extend their reach over the irwell and acquire it). I did not realise ECF were buying land up further Chapel St as well.

highriser

May 14th, 2007, 10:15 PM

That would include that vile Bruntwood City Wharf building .

I was around this area the other day , there are msses of surface carparks , im sure Allied have a eye on all the land next to Spinningfeilds .

Oh btw , we move into 4HS on the 23rd of July :)

SleepyOne

June 2nd, 2007, 07:54 PM

Practice named as Client Design Advisor to Salford's £120 million BSF programme

http://www.walkersimpson.com/latest.php

Good! Hopefully this is good news for the threatened United Reform Church on Trafford Road. Walker Simpson designed the multi award winning College and Library in Harpurhey which successfully blended an important, historic building with striking new build.

highriser

June 9th, 2007, 04:30 PM

Really like this building inbetween Trinity and Chapel St

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1447.jpg?t=1181399348

markydeedrop

June 10th, 2007, 12:04 AM

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/073.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/072-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/070-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/071-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/069-1.jpg

jrb

June 21st, 2007, 09:18 PM

Bellway development opposite US Beach proposal. Any ideas?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3950.jpg

jrb

June 21st, 2007, 10:01 PM

COMM
Applicant name: Countryside Properties UK Ltd
Ward: Broughton
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Caerwen Roberts
Telephone: 0161 779 4989
Location: Land Bounded By Camp Street, Great Clowe Street, Moss Street And Duke Street Salford 7
Proposal: Erection of 37 houses and 160 apartments (in five blocks - a four-eight storey apartment building known as Block 1, a four and five storey apartment building known as Block 2, a five storey apartment building known as Block 3, a four storey apartment building known as Block 4 and a four storey apartment building known as Block 5), creation of public spaces, car parking and ancillary uses together with highway and other works
Submit comments on application 07/54815/FUL

http://documents.salford.gov.uk/docs/54815.pdf

MVITA

June 21st, 2007, 10:12 PM

Bellway development opposite US Beach proposal. Any ideas?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture3950.jpg

I live in the apartments in front of the tower blocks, the local scallys were giving the security guard the run-around last night

jrb

June 26th, 2007, 09:02 PM

Remember this one Longy? :poke:

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/448.$plit/C_71_article_1009901_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?

Eco-village plans recycled

A £100m eco-friendly estate which was originally blocked by a council that boasts of its `green' credentials could still be built.

Developers have resubmitted a scheme to build 350 homes on derelict land in Monton, Eccles.

The 11-acre plot, off Green Lane, was the site of Mitchell Shackleton engineering works but has been empty for six years.

Chester Developments is trying again to get permission for an estate which would have wind turbines to supply energy, rainwater harvesting, solar energy and recycling facilities.

Revised plans include communal gardens for children to play safely, allotments, roof-top gardens and a resident's car-sharing scheme.

A new link road would divert heavy traffic passing close to the existing residential area along Lansdowne Road.

The company has pledged to use locally-sourced labour and materials with the aim of helping businesses within 10 miles of the estate.

Chester Developments chairman, Anthony Hirsch, said: "In its current state, this derelict site offers nothing to the surrounding area and the local community.

"We believe, if given the go-ahead, that this scheme could potentially be one of the most exciting sustainable and environmentally-friendly communities in the UK.

"We have demonstrated our commitment to this scheme and our desire to improve this area for local people by pursuing the process of appeal for our original plans and submitting a second revised proposal for the site."

Salford council turned down the plans last year because it said the land should be used for commercial development.

The council has been praised for its recycling initiatives and is now aiming to switch its 400-vehicle fleet to environmentally-friendly bio-diesel fuel.

Planning chief, Coun Derek Antrobus, was lukewarm to the original proposals and said the only information about `eco-homes' had been for the company's marketing.

He said: "Without imputing motives to this particular developer, it would not be unknown for an applicant to secure value for their site by acquiring planning permission and then selling it on at a profit."

But Mr Hirsch, who had the backing of former Eccles councillor, Eddie Sheehy, insists local people want something doing with the eyesore site, which borders the M602.

He said that for five years his company had been trying to market the site for commercial use, but there had been no interest.

http://www.chesterdevelopments.com/pages/worsley.shtml

The Longford

June 26th, 2007, 09:13 PM

Not changed my mind and i hope Antrobus hasnt either.

jrb

July 26th, 2007, 12:40 AM

A significant little snippet.

As part of English Cities Fund, signed an agreement with urban regeneration company Central Salford to develop 30 acres around Salford Central station and Chapel Street in Manchester. A planning applications for the first phase of the residential-led scheme is due to be submitted.

Architecty

August 1st, 2007, 12:58 AM

Put Fresh pics in the wrong thread so might as well stick this in here; they have done a lovely job renovation the railway bridges along Chapel Street.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/Architecty/IMG_0871.jpg

jrb

August 6th, 2007, 11:57 PM

Bigun for Ordsall. Some more height. Information not available yet. Infact the SCC planning portal/updates have been weeks behind lately.

Reference: 07/55102/FUL
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: Bellway Homes Ltd
Ward: Ordsall
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Kurt Partington
Telephone: 0161 779 4839
Location: Land Off Woden Street Adjacent To Lamba Court And River Irwell, Salford
Proposal: Erection of mixed use development comprising of 281 residential apartments, four towns houses and 1590 square metres of commercial floorspace A1 (retail), A3 (restaurant) a4 (drinking establishment) and B1 (offices) within a range of buildings between 4 and 13 storeys together with associated landscaping and undercroft/car parking

http://www.salford.gov.uk/planninglist-archive?id=92641

cooperman

August 7th, 2007, 03:47 PM

jrb

August 18th, 2007, 06:36 PM

New magazine launched. (free subscription)

http://www.centralsalfordmagazine.com/subscribe.html

cooperman

August 23rd, 2007, 03:43 PM

http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/05070329.pdf

looks good!

GShutty

August 23rd, 2007, 06:26 PM

http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/05070329.pdf

looks good!

Good find- that's a great addition in linking Ordsall corridor to Castlefield/ Hulme. A bit of retail at the base as well. I like it.

skit_uk

August 24th, 2007, 02:53 PM

http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/05070329.pdf

looks good!

The link isn't working for me. Anychance you could post up the details?

cooperman

August 24th, 2007, 04:09 PM

http://publicaccess.salford.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JLQJMXNP00400

try here, you need to view associated docs, the masterplan is about halfway dwn the list

skit_uk

August 24th, 2007, 05:51 PM

Thanks Cooperman, much appreciated:cheers:

jrb

August 25th, 2007, 09:35 PM

SBS architects.

Don't know if this will ever see the light of day. SBS were the architects behind the Victoria Gateway proposal which hasn't materialized yet. Remember?(see link)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/3-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/1-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/2-3.jpg

http://www.sbsarch.co.uk/

man med

August 26th, 2007, 10:45 PM

http://www.hkr.ie/

dunno if this has been posted b4....
click the HKR link go to projects, masterplanning, salford central

Mez

August 27th, 2007, 02:10 AM

Is this even possible?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1115/1243699771_a19df32eae_o.jpg

man med

August 27th, 2007, 09:11 PM

I did wonder - dont think the Lowry will b chuffed

The Longford

August 27th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Is this even possible?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1115/1243699771_a19df32eae_o.jpg

I did wonder - dont think the Lowry will b chuffed

Think youre getting confused.
This is further up on the opposite bank to Left bank/ Spinningfields. They have just pretended that bridge is there.
If think the Mark Addy pub may be a bit annoyed.

TheGrand

August 27th, 2007, 11:13 PM

Think youre getting confused.
This is further up on the opposite bank to Left bank/ Spinningfields. They have just pretended that bridge is there.
If think the Mark Addy pub may be a bit annoyed.

Anyone been in that pub recently? God that pubs gone downhill, good cheese though

GShutty

August 28th, 2007, 09:20 AM

Is this even possible?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1115/1243699771_a19df32eae_o.jpg

It would constitute an improvement on what is there- but really, it's not Spinnigfields quality, or even close is it. The concrete is already attracting filth :ohno:

dirtyred619

August 28th, 2007, 07:48 PM

Sorry I cant find the Manchester Gossip thread so this thread will have to do! I still keep hearing that there is a strong chance of a 60 Storey tower to built 'near to the Lowry hotel' from a very good source (except for knowing the exact location!!!), I know there are discussions going on at the moment but should have more info in the coming weeks.

4 developments come to mind as (that we know about) that he could be refering to: BSC Greengate, Fresh, Chapel Wharf and possibly the Ramada site. From the 4 I would say Chapel Wharf would be the most likely candidate as a 60 storey tower rather than a tower and multiple other bulings on that site would be better.

Anyway its purely a little tid bit of gossip at the moment, will obviously most more info as I get it!!!

jrb

August 28th, 2007, 10:54 PM

Chorltonred

August 28th, 2007, 10:58 PM

There's also the huge car park at Salford Central.

dirtyred619

August 29th, 2007, 02:01 PM

DR.

Think it was Bio, not sure, said one of the proposed towers is being redesigned. Longy also said there was a tower planned for a site close to the Lowry Hotel. Interesting times.(ish)

Was thinking that so thats what led me to believe the most likely candidate is Chapel Wharf.

dirtyred619

August 29th, 2007, 02:07 PM

There's also the huge car park at Salford Central.

I know theres been plans for the car park on the corner of Trinity Way opposite that horrible Lego inspired building, dont think its anything too big though!

markydeedrop

September 1st, 2007, 10:55 AM

Countryside Properties has been granted planning permission from Salford City Council for the next phase of the regeneration scheme in Lower Broughton, east Salford.

It has been granted permission to develop 160 apartments in five blocks alongside 37 family houses, car parking, and open space on a 4.2 acre site located on Lucy Street at the junction of Camp Street and Great Clowes Street.

The site forms part of a large outline planning permission which was granted by Salford City Council in 2006. The regeneration proposals have been developed over the past three years in conjunction with Salford City Council, Contour Housing Group and through discussion and consultation with the local community. Countryside has already carried out the first phase of the scheme.

Les Brown, regional project director for Lower Broughton at Countryside Properties, said: ‘The second phase of the development is set to include a combination of both affordable and private new homes as we look to further increase the population figures of the local area and the prosperity that it deserves.’

kids

September 7th, 2007, 05:08 PM

Some applications in yesturdays advertiser - not online yet.
__________________________________________________________________________________

Drum Developments - West side of Bloom Street M3 - 7 storey building/42 units

Pinetree Developments - Weaste Quarry (former), Eccles - 3 part 6/7 storey buildings - 262 units
____________________________________________________________________________________|

There's also an add for Hulton Square in Ordsall, that i've never seen before..

http://www.hultonsquare.co.uk/Images/Park%20CGI.jpg

http://www.hultonsquare.co.uk/index.htm

SleepyOne

September 19th, 2007, 09:24 PM

4 storey extension to the Grade II listed Dock Office off Trafford Rd. Again, this goes before committee tomorrow. Looks pretty good. Ombler Iwanowski are a safe pair of hands.

07/55034/FUL

The Dock Office
Trafford Road
Salford
M50 3XB

Erection of a four storey extension and other extension to existing office building with landscape improvement works and erection of a multi storey car park

http://publicaccess.salford.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JL07VINP40000

dirtyred619

October 4th, 2007, 11:42 PM

Article in tonights salford advertiser on a scheme to be built on the site of the old Browns Brothers brewery on the corner of Chapel Street and Trinity Way, been designed by HKR and includs a tower but cant tell from the picture how tall it is but its at least 12 storeys and looks nice. Parts of the lower block are made from ‘exposed concrete with a sceen prined and embossed pattern‘.

Manchester Planner

October 5th, 2007, 03:54 PM

Oh Salford...

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mancplanner_2007/17.jpg

Nice big gap to put all those Greengate towers in.

jrb

October 6th, 2007, 07:05 PM

Can't remember where the original article and render were posted, but I'm sure this render wasn't posted. Apologise if it has already been posted.

Artsan. Brown Brothers warehouse.

http://www.propertyweek.com/Pictures/web/x/x/f/CMYKParkView.jpg

Chorltonred

October 23rd, 2007, 11:23 PM

That development on the corner of Chapel Street and Oldfield Road with the green crane is going to look like this apparently:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/Chorltonred/ResizeWizard-11.jpg

Simply stunning. I didn't take a photo of the poster of the generic photogenic yuppie couple hugging and celebrating having paid £250,000 for a one bedroom flat in Salford, as there's enough of those around town already.

Chorltonred

October 23rd, 2007, 11:29 PM

There's actually another development just across the road (Barrow Street?) with what looks like a crane base:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/Chorltonred/ResizeWizard-12.jpg

Unless the crane is going to be used on the Chapel street thingy.

Comdot

October 25th, 2007, 09:16 PM

bellway 13, 10, 9, 8 storey apartments with office space. planning application applied september. woden street, near grosvenor casino.

since moving in nearby in september i've noticed 5 cars get broken into on that street! there's glass everywhere, all the time. police aren't even interested that i know who they are and someone else knows where they live. go gmp. :bash:

Comdot

October 25th, 2007, 09:22 PM

jrb

October 25th, 2007, 11:39 PM

Not a surprise since they're moving to Mediacity. Shame really. Let's hope they don't end up in a tin shed at Mediacity.

From Oube.

Danish practice 3XN has claimed its competition-winning Faculty of Arts, Media and Social Sciences scheme for the University of Salford has been tossed on the scrapheap.

http://www.3xn.dk/

SleepyOne

October 26th, 2007, 12:54 AM

3XN’s Salford scheme on the scrapheap

http://www.ajplus.co.uk/Images/Articles/2510-3XN-MAIN.jpg

Danish practice 3XN has claimed its competition-winning Faculty of Arts, Media and Social Sciences scheme for the University of Salford has been tossed on the scrapheap.

I can understand why 3XN would feel disgruntled though. Their design for the Adelphi campus location looked really promising. There hasn't really been explanation from the University as to why they've dropped 3XN and opted for Sheppard Robson in the move to a mediacity site for their school.

The Longford

October 26th, 2007, 01:16 AM

There hasn't really been explanation from the University as to why they've dropped 3XN and opted for Sheppard Robson in the move to a mediacity site for their school.

I think we can both guess why Sleepy?

SleepyOne

October 26th, 2007, 01:21 AM

I think we can both guess why Sleepy?

Well... yes. Money talks hey? SR arn't a bad choice though and experienced in delivering this sort of project. Shame the more design-led practice has been binned though.

The Longford

October 26th, 2007, 01:25 AM

Well... yes. Money talks hey? SR arn't a bad choice though and experienced in delivering this sort of project. Shame the more design-led practice has been binned though.

Yep - money talks ..bullshit walks.

Get your name in the press as an institution that promotes good design but when it comes to the crunch just go with the safe (and cheaper) option.

jrb

November 2nd, 2007, 01:40 AM

Some updates on various proposals + link below to meetings for regeneration initiatives cabinet working group. There could be numerous bits of info, but can't be bothered to search through all of the minutes.

Salford Central Station/Chapel Street West Development Framework

Salford Central Station

• Phase 1 will be completed December 2007.
• Phase 1 improvements include the creation of a new enclosed forecourt, a refurbished concourse and new lift access to the upper level platforms. There will also be improvements to facilities such as the ticket office, toilets and information systems.

Chapel Street

• SCC are producing planning guidance for Salford Central. The guidance will be going out for public consultation from mid October to the end of November 2007. It is anticipated to be adopted by March 2008.
• English Cities Fund (ECF) preparing a detailed development framework for the area around the station, extending West to Oldfield Road/Adelphi Street and North and South of Chapel Street. This will adopt the principles of the planning guidance.

Ordsall Riverside Masterplan

• An executive summary of the masterplan will be complete by October 2007.
• Public consultation on draft guidance will take place in January /February 2008.
• Consultant appointed to prepare draft planning guidance with a view to adopting it in June/July 2008.

Crescent Masterplan

• The masterplan has been put on hold pending outcome of several other pieces of work including:
o Former police headquarters feasibility study – November 2007;
o Salford Museum and Art Gallery masterplan – October 2007; and
o Salford University Estates Strategy – Spring 2008.

Crescent Railway Station

• Short term measures have been agreed with Northern Rail to address the immediate overcrowding and safety issues. These will be implemented by the end of 2007.
• Support for improvements to Blackpool, Bolton and Manchester line service requested from councils.
• The GMPTE study commenced in March 2007 and will be complete by September 2007.

Greengate

• Planning approval for the new bridge was granted by MCC on 07/09/07.
• The URC is working with English Partnership to secure funding to deliver the public realm with the project due to be presented to English Partnership project executive in November 2007 for approval.

Manchester Bury and Bolton Canal – Middlewood section

• The Middlewood section (Phase 1) of the MBBC will be completed late 2007.
• Installation of pumps is expected in January /February 2008.
• The owners of the Middlewood site are understood to be in discussion with developers regarding disposal of development plots.
• Middlewood area will be included in Planning Guidance for the Chapel St West / Central Station area which is due to go to public consultation in October 2007. The planning guidance will give more control over the form of development.

http://www.salford.gov.uk/meetings.htm?ID=122

http://www.salford.gov.uk/council/councilpapers/accessall.htm

jrb

November 2nd, 2007, 03:38 AM

Countryside finalises latest plans for New Broughton

Countryside Properties is preparing to submit detailed planning applications for the third and fourth phases of its £500m residential regeneration project in Lower Broughton, Salford.

Public consultation has closed on the latest phases of New Broughton, which will comprise 864 apartments and houses. Detailed planning applications will be submitted before the end of the year.

Building work on the 37 houses and 160 flats in phase one is now complete and work has recently started on site on phase two of 160 apartments and 37 houses.

Countryside Properties, in partnership with Salford City Council, is responsible for transforming 185 acres of Lower Broughton by delivering over 3,500 mixed-tenure homes alongside a full range of community facilities including shops, leisure, employment, education and training over the next 15 years. The regeneration scheme will invest just over £500m in the area.

All residents directly involved in the next two phases were invited to attend consultation events held in Lower Broughton, to share their thoughts on the next stages of the development. Around 50 people attended the events and met with New Broughton project director, Les Brown; designer, Fraser Watkins; and Jude Barker, assistant development manager, as well as representatives from partners Salix Homes and social landlord Contour Homes.

Residents looked at a number of different plans illustrating the potential lay-outs for the houses and shared their thoughts on the designs. A separate consultation event was also held to capture residents' views on how the open space planned around the area should be used.

Feedback provided by Countryside Properties will allow residents to see how their input will be used in the design of the next two phases.

jrb

November 14th, 2007, 12:58 AM

Updated news on various projects. Worth 5-10 minutes of your time.

Regeneration summary update.

http://www.salford.gov.uk/showmeeting.htm?ID=3434&MGP_ID=122

The Longford

November 28th, 2007, 07:59 PM

I always knew that this project stunk!
Pricing the community out of their own neighbourhoods.
You cant polish a turd and people are voting with their feet. Half a Mill for a house in Broughton? Are you fucking having a laff?
Unfortunately people have been turfed out of their homes for the sake of profit and communities have been wrecked.
Promises have been broken.
We might as well have just given the 'developers' the £30 million and left things alone for what it was worth.
Stinks!

New blow for 'ghost town'
Neal Keeling
28/11/2007

THE building of a community centre as part of a housing project to revitalise a rundown area has been delayed by more than a year.

Work on the Broughton Green scheme, in Salford, started five years ago, with the first 177 luxury homes finished in July.

But despite being on the market for three years, only 120 have been sold, with about a quarter bought to let.

This led to the development being branded `a ghost town'.

Profits from the £120m project are meant to finance new community facilities.

But the building of the £9m community `hub', including a library, is a year behind schedule and has yet to go before the city's planning committee.

Prices at the development off Northumberland Street, Higher Broughton, range from £100,000 to £250,000 for apartments and £150,000 to £500,000 for houses.

It is one of nine government-backed Pathfinder schemes aimed at transforming areas.

In a report, the National Audit Office says the schemes fail to offer enough affordable replacement homes for families displaced by the building.

Council leader John Merry, who represents the Broughton ward, said calling Broughton Green a `ghost town' was `ridiculous' and pledged that the next phase and the community centre would go ahead.

He said: "Phase two is about regenerating the area and providing facilities and more affordable housing. This will go ahead.

"Money from the profits made on this scheme will be ploughed back into the community. They are not as high as we would like at the moment but the money will come in.

"I am confident the scheme will be of huge benefit to the community. There are old houses boarded up and areas are derelict. That is the `ghost town' that needs sorting out. However, the community facilities will be provided regardless of how fast new properties sell."

The next phase of the regeneration will be in an area around Wiltshire Street.

The council has acquired 162 terraced properties and is obtaining another 81 - all of which will be demolished to make way for the next phase.

Sports facilities will also be built to replace playing fields on which the first phase of Broughton Green was built. There are also plans for a medical centre and shops.

The community `hub' has gone through several redesigns causing numerous delays. It will include a trampoline hall, gym, youth club and police post. Plans were due to go before the planning committee early this year but were withdrawn.

Guy Griffiths was evicted from his house in Hampshire Street two years ago as part of the development, and got £36,500 from the council, even though houses nearby were selling for £100,000.

He said: "Only about 40 per cent of the houses in Broughton Green are lived in. There might be 120 sold but most were bought by people to rent and are empty. These houses are way beyond what people around here can afford."

The project involves a partnership between the government, the council, the Royal Bank of Scotland, and development firms City Spirit and Inpartnership. So far, £30m of taxpayers' money has been spent and a council spokesman insisted phase one wasn't a failure and that 30 homes had been sold to a housing association.

b4mmy

November 28th, 2007, 09:36 PM

I have to say that I agree with you there longbottom.

I picked up a copy of the Salford Star last night at the Joy Division documentary premier and these are a few extracts from the article I just read:

The residents have been given all sorts of reasons why the houses must come down...

"They are telling us that it will cost too much money to bring them up to Government standards but they've just spent a fortune on them! ... We've got double glazing... the architect says we've got to have triple glazing... they said we are in a flood plain... but they are going to build houses there? The architect says it's because we live in cul-de-sacs which don't work - they want long roads... I'm sorry but cul-de-sacs do work - children can play safely and we only get cars that are visiting." And the police agree saying that cul-de-sacs are safer for and discourage visitors with ulterior motives.

"They are pulling down houses to get rid of us and to get posh people in" says Jean Archer who has lived on Hatton Avenue for 20 years.

"I had someone visit me from London last week and told me these houses would go for hundreds of thousands down there... it's the location they said... they want us out".

"I moved here two years ago after they pulled down Earl Street. I'd lived there for 45 years, was offered very little money for it and they said if I don't take it they would CPO it. I came here. It's lovely and warm, the neighbours are lovely, I love everything about it... there's nothing it doesn't provide for a 72 year old lady... I can walk to town. And that's why they want the land. They want people out."

"What they are doing is nothing short of criminal. Anyone in their right minds can see there's nothing wrong with these houses. I said, look through that window. Can you get me a garden like that? They said no. I said my wife is disabled and I need a bungalow. But they aren't building bungalows so we are being forced out."

"They made a boob when they built this estate. It's too good for the likes of us. Anybody can see what they are doing. They are getting rid of ordinary people, and bringing in what they call the cream of society".

"Why are they pulling down houses when there is nothing wrong with them?"

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The facts:

In 2003 the council produced a report showing the high demand in the 6 streets around Hatton Ave, Tulip Walk, and Jessamine Ave. Out of 103 houses only one was empty and relets were running at 100%.

The Lower Broughton estate has just had a £3,564,000 refurbishment.

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So, it looks like the now infamous Pathfinder Project is doing its dirty deed on local communities again. Keep reading, because this is the interesting stuff!!!

The Manchester Salford Housing Market Renewal Pathfinder are actually funding the pull down and relocation for the developer. MSP has had £221million to meet such costs and do up neighbourhood's in Salford and Manchester.

Overseeing that work is the Partnership Body.

BUT many of the people sat on that board represent commercial companies that appear to be benefiting from where those public funds are spent.

Lo and behold... on the board sits Alan Cherry, CEO of Countryside.... the company in the middle of the £500m scheme to build 3500 new homes and to regenerate Lower Broughton.

Also on the board, George Mills of MBLA Architects... just received the contract to masterplan 180 acres of Lower Broughton.

Just up the road DTZ were the selling agents for £13m of Pathfinder money. Who sits on the board... Derek Nesbitt of DTZ.

There are many others all with commercial links, but you get the idea.

You might think this is scandalous and it would never happen if the public sector were running the show? You would think that, but you would be wrong!

Chairman of the Board is Professor Michael Harloe, Vice Chancellor for the University of Salford. As well as picking up research contracts from Pathfinder for it's SURF and Research, Foresight and Intelligence projects, the University is rapidly expanding and now surrounds New Broughton on three sides! But Harloe won't let the local community anywhere near it's swimming pool and gym facilities.

NWRDA and English Partnerships are also on the board. All with commercial interests.

What can people do about this? Write to the council of course!!!

Local accountability comes from two councillors. Councillor Eddy Newman (Manchester) and Councillor Peter Connor (Salford). Connor won't speak publicly about this, but is... surprise, surprise a director of Higher Broughton (GP) Ltd.... who are specialists in wait for it.... property redevelopment.

MSP has just applied for a further £159,000,000 for the next three years.

Lock up your daughters.

The Longford

November 28th, 2007, 10:00 PM

The fella from Salford Star is a bit of crank (in the nicest possible way) and i cant agree with him on a couple of points but he has every right to be annoyed by this.
Pathfinder is a major fuck up and trust Salford to embrace it. Pathfinder just legitimises policies that Salford have promoted since the 60s ...and more importantly unlocks funding for their scorched earth approach to regen.

man med

November 30th, 2007, 11:52 PM

Some applications in't advertiser........only glanced at it though aint got it now

mid rise 10 11 floors

also 21 17 etc floors

jrb

December 6th, 2007, 10:14 PM

Town lost in the giant's shadow
Kathryn Ryan
6/12/2007

FORTY years ago Eccles was a bustling market town, now critics say it’s a shadow of its former glory.

A town which once boasted five cinemas and two theatres now seems to offer little more than charity shops, cut-price stores, empty units and betting shops.

Changes started to take place in Eccles during the late half of 1971 with the pedestrianisation of Church Street.

Following the radical and, for many, controversial move great things were planned for the town including increased shopping facilities and leisure amenities.

Funding was ploughed into a variety of ventures, including Single Regeneration Budget money for town centre managers to spearhead it’s forward looking future.

New ventures included the building of the bus interchange, the arrival of Morrisons and the West One retail outlet and in the future the building of the new courts.

While town centre bosses have seen these changes as working towards the rejuvenation of an ever-dilapidating town - others have seen them, and the arrival of The Trafford Centre just a few miles away, as instrumental in Eccles’ decline.

John Riley, owner of L and Gs clothes shop in Church Street, is closing his store after 40 years due to rent increases.

He said: “The Trafford Centre has got something to do with the decline and since they moved Wilkinsons we don’t get as many people walking past.

“It used to be really busy along the street.

“When they built Morrisons I noticed it because people don’t seem to cross the road for the fear of being knocked down or even killed.

“All the people stood outside betting shops and pubs smoking doesn’t help the image."

The owner of Curtain Centre, who wished to remain anonymous, said: “When The Trafford Centre was built, we felt the wind of it.

“The next scenario was Morrisons, they moved from the precinct to across the road and there was supposed to be a pedestrian way between them and us but that got changed. People go to Morrisons by car and don’t bother coming across to the precinct.”

A former Eccles councillor and ex Mayor of Salford Brian Carter also placed the blame on supermarkets.

He said: “The shopping centre has not been a great success and I think it is because of the supermarkets taking over. There doesn’t appear to have been enough money ploughed into the town.

“One of my pet hates is they never stopped traffic going through Eccles, it was supposed to be pedestrianised but people take no notice and still drive through the pedestrianised areas.”

Other traders admitted there had been a decline but were more positive about the future.

Howard Silcock from Silcocks fruit and veg store said: “It declined to rock bottom about seven or eight years ago but I think it's slowly getting better.

“It's a combination of things - shopping habits have changed and charging for car parking also had an effect. I used to have 10 staff and three tills and now I manage on my own.

“I took a five-year lease out after five years ago and I thought I would pack it in after that but I've decided to stay on because I'm optimistic - Wilkinsons have moved in nearby, a new jewellers has opened and the Card Factory has reopened.”

Town centre bosses admit Eccles has had it’s fair share of bad times but insist things are on the up.

Said Julie Blagden, neighbourhood manager for Eccles: “Like many other towns if its size, Eccles has been affected by the local business scene.

“The community tend to feel the closure of the markets and the opening of Morrisons has had an impact on the number of shoppers in the centre.

“However, there is a lot of local pride in the area and a concerted effort to improve the town centre, via the town centre management company and the council, who have visionary plans for the area.”

Chogmook

December 7th, 2007, 11:33 AM

If they would've put the stores at West One actually IN the town centre, then things would be fine!!

Cosmo Disney

December 7th, 2007, 02:42 PM

If they would've put the stores at West One actually IN the town centre, then things would be fine!!

West One was a ludicrous developer-led folly which will soon be down to its last 3 tenants. Serves them right.

jrb

February 8th, 2008, 11:25 PM

Erection of extension to existing prison to include a new houseblock with 232 cells, extensions to entry building together with associated external works, landscaping and car parking

http://publicaccess.salford.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JQQ6PQNP00400&searchtype=WEEKLY

Comdot

February 9th, 2008, 03:38 AM

that's it, pack them in there

legolamb

February 10th, 2008, 10:37 PM

...

jrb

February 12th, 2008, 01:22 AM

University reviews future of 35 buildings with sell-offs on cards
Regeneration consultants to carry out a fit-for-use study on part of campus
By Simon Binns

The University of Salford has commissioned a review of its property estate, with a view to selling off some of its 35 buildings.

Frank Benton, director of estates at the University of Salford, said London-based regeneration consultant Urban Initiatives had been commissioned to carry out a fit-for-use study and a master-planning concept for the area around the Frederick Street Campus.

Buildings on that site include Salford Innovation Park, made up of three separate sites — Technology House, the University of Salford Business Park and Salford Innovation Forum — owned by Manchester Science Park.

The university is also assessing how best to staff its estates division, which currently uses direct employees for construction and maintenance, rather than contractors.

“We're looking at value for money in staffing and also looking at what property we can sell off to give us some capital to invest back into the estate and improve the student experience,” said Benton.

Urban Initiatives has already carried out work in Salford, partnering with Central Salford Urban Regeneration Company on the Ordsall Riverside masterplan, and it is also working with the city council on a development framework for Salford centre. “The university sits fairly isolated,” said Hugo Nowell, associate director of Urban Initiatives. “The two parts of the campus on opposite sides of the road certainly need to be linked up better.

“We'll be assessing the strengths and weaknesses of the university's buildings, and whether they'd be better off building new or refurbishing existing property. Selling off part of the estate is not a definite, but it is an option.” Nowell added that he saw the development of the university as a potential catalyst for investment in the surrounding area, and that it could use its proximity to Manchester city centre to draw in students.

“Manchester is very important to the success of the university,” he said.

“The city is on its doorstep, and the surrounding environment is very important in being able to attract students. “The campus needs a more welcoming entrance, which will help it become a more attractive learning environment, but we need to take a long-term view of the university and how it will work over the next 10-15 years.”

The review process is expected to take at least another six months, said Nowell.

jrb

February 12th, 2008, 02:48 AM

new PDF. Lots of new information and renders about Salford's future proposal's.

www.salford.gov.uk/shaping-salford-draft-consultation-for-web-2.pdf -

Comdot

February 13th, 2008, 10:56 PM

i want exchange greengate approved NOW darn it :(

http://www.askdevelopments.com/projects/details/10792 - too cool

Comdot

February 14th, 2008, 01:01 PM

salford central

mint
http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/salford%20central/salford%20central%203.jpg

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/salford%20central/salford%20central%202.jpg

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/salford%20central/salford%20central.jpg

as is cjc
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/149CivilJusticeCentre_pic49.jpg

Accura4Matalan

February 14th, 2008, 01:05 PM

Very swish :cool:
MASSIVE improvement :)

Craig

February 14th, 2008, 02:16 PM

The bridge looks so much better after the paint job. The bridges around Castlefield and by the Arena are in desperate need of a similar overhaul and really let Manchester down at the moment.

Comdot

February 14th, 2008, 02:18 PM

The bridge looks so much better after the paint job. The bridges around Castlefield and by the Arena are in desperate need of a similar overhaul and really let Manchester down at the moment.

yeah they would look out of this world painted. maybe the victorian design of them wasn't originally meant to be painted though. i wouldn't know.

and-r

February 14th, 2008, 04:51 PM

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/salford%20central/salford%20central%202.jpg

hmm, looks like it has some wasted space issues there, surely could be used more effectively ie seating area, ticket machines, coffee stand or bike racks

andysimo123

February 14th, 2008, 04:57 PM

Caiman

February 14th, 2008, 05:13 PM

as is cjc
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/149CivilJusticeCentre_pic49.jpg
Love this shot.

Comdot

February 14th, 2008, 05:25 PM

Love this shot.

thanks mate :)

i posted that in a london thread a few minutes ago when some numpty was slagging off manchester. check it out :) ... http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18415626&postcount=539

jrb

March 6th, 2008, 10:57 PM

http://www.salford.ac.uk/about/investment/

jrb

March 9th, 2008, 01:08 AM

Just been flicking through this weeks issue of Crains. This article isn't online so I thought I'd post it.

Salford wants a piece of the financial action. (banks, overseas financial institutions, funds, developers and end users)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/pppppppxxx.jpg

jrb

March 12th, 2008, 12:32 AM

Coming soon.

http://www.centralsalford.com/

jrb

March 25th, 2008, 01:09 PM

Coming soon.

http://www.centralsalford.com/

Just spoke to a very nice person at CS. New website should be up and running in 4-5 weeks.

Irish Blood English Heart

March 26th, 2008, 02:40 PM

I'm going back to Salford Uni in September (well hopefully), so pretty interested if anyone knows what is happening with the rationalising of their facilities? I'm in Newcastle at the moment so will move back down but will prob just go into halls as it's cheaper. They all seem a bit rank though, either Castle Irwell or the big tower block (Eddie Colman court) in Pendelton. I guess if I go for the latter they'll at least be good views! Has anyone else on here ever gone to Salford Uni?

Chogmook

March 26th, 2008, 02:48 PM

IBEH's coming back! :)

jrb

April 24th, 2008, 10:20 PM

Central Salford's new website is now live. Doesn't seem to be anything we don't already know about or haven't seen before.

http://www.centralsalford.com/index.php?theme=Flash

kids

May 8th, 2008, 06:19 PM

Can anyone think of any developments missing from this plan of Ordsal?:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2h4fa0p.jpg

Comdot

May 8th, 2008, 11:57 PM

colgate factory and stuff
vanguard textiles
off the top of my head

good place for a bridge, i see there. would make my walk to pomona metrolink worthwhile :)

yesevil

May 17th, 2008, 02:22 PM

Latest copy of Central Salford redevelopment newletter is now available:

http://www.centralsalford.com/admin/assets/uploads/Documents/ta_nl_2.pdf

No real news, but worth a look.

jrb

May 25th, 2008, 11:00 PM

Just found this while surfing the tinternet. Probably haven't come across a stranger proposal for Manchester yet.

MANCHESTER HOUSING PROPOSAL - SALFORD, ENGLAND

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/01.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/02.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/03.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/04.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/05.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/06.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/07.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/08.jpg

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/urban/manchester/09.jpg

This proposal for housing along the River Irwell affords residents the convenience of city life in a lush green environment along the waterfront.

LIVING ALONG THE CANALS: The canal and river system provides a wonderful opportunity to be revitalized and used for commerce, transportation and recreation; connecting England to itself. Apartments along the new canal come with a barge summer home that plugs into the apartment, extending the living space into a floating sunroom with extra bedroom, kitchen and bath, making this a "two for one" package deal. There are 2 mixed-use residential and commercial buildings on the large site. The big building constitutes the first phase and consists of 90 apartments, 20commercial spaces and two levels of parking (120 spaces). The smaller building to the north is the second phase. It consists of one level of parking (28 spaces) and approximately 30 residential units. The site along the river to the North has another four story building to be used by maritime related tenants.

WATER: POOL, ICE RINK, FLOATING THEATER, MARKET AND BARGEBUS: Water is synonymous with life. This proposal attempts to bring life to the site and Salford in general. Swimming, ice skating, and floating performances are just some of the activities that could take place in the Water Plaza. Boating is the most energy efficient means of transportation and this project capitalizes on its location along the Irwell. The Building on the East side of the river houses a dry dock and boat shop for repair and maintenance of barges and boats. Both the BargeBus and dry dock would provide employment opportunities for local residents. Above the dry dock are rehearsal spaces for the Floating Theater that performs in the Water Plaza on the site when not touring the waterways of England. The canals are an underutilized link between city and countryside that provide the opportunity for a floating farmers market that could visit the site weekly. In addition, we propose to initiate a BargeBus transportation system throughout Manchester, with the management offices located at the Springfield Lane site. Barges are incredibly fuel-efficient, providing a pleasant way to travel that avoids road traffic and reduces pollution.

LANDSCAPE AND ECO-ROOFS: Inspired by the lush green landscape around Manchester, the stepped landscape is a playful interpretation of the traditional English Garden. The ascending grassy knolls provide urban residents with both public gardens and private lawns at their doorstep, even for people living in a 4th floor duplex. Access to green space and water add considerable value to a property. Eco-roofs are gaining popularity due to their sustainability, energy efficiency and agreeable appearance. The thermal mass of soil and grass combined help to reduce heat loss during winter and heat gain during summer, reducing overall fuel consumption and costs. Eco-roofs also block ultra-violet light preventing deterioration of the roof membrane. Grass roofs provide water storage during periods of high rainfall, reducing runoff to the local drainage system, and the rain water that percolates through the roof can be filtered and used. In urban areas, Eco-roofs provide a habitat for wildlife and filter the air through the photosynthesis process.

OUTDOOR CINEMA: The outdoor cinema space at the Southwest corner of the site uses the building as a projection surface for films and advertising that are easily visible to commuters along Trinity Way

http://www.i-beamdesign.com/projects/residential/residential.html

Irish Blood English Heart

May 25th, 2008, 11:33 PM

I cant see it can you? In theory it is a grand idea but in reality would probably be absolutely vile.

jrb

May 25th, 2008, 11:46 PM

I cant see it can you? In theory it is a grand idea but in reality would probably be absolutely vile.

A bit like Machu Picchu.

http://people.uleth.ca/~holzmann/peru/2087_Machu_Picchu_from_Inca_bridge_trail.jpg

Mez

May 25th, 2008, 11:49 PM

Is this the site where the beach was proposed?

ferge

May 25th, 2008, 11:51 PM

why must planners keep tryin to create utopia? just throw up some 2 up 2 downs n be done with it

Comdot

May 26th, 2008, 02:05 AM

reminds me of lous kahn's work, such as the salk institute or bagladesh parliament building.

i suppose this salford thing is just a vision.

salk institute
http://www.foxlin.com/albums/bryan/Louis_Kahn_Salk_Institute.sized.gif

SleepyOne

May 27th, 2008, 09:18 PM

The HKR designed block on Springfield Lane is nearing completion and looking rather striking, I have to say.

Could this be the only building of any quality Bellway have developed in the city?

Comdot

May 27th, 2008, 09:44 PM

SleepyOne

May 27th, 2008, 09:48 PM

Yes and as I was saying thus far, they've all been utter shite! Architecture from the bottom drawer.

Comdot

May 27th, 2008, 10:29 PM

Architecture from the bottom drawer.

for residents from the bottom drawer.

SleepyOne

May 27th, 2008, 10:37 PM

for residents from the bottom drawer.

Im sure that's not the case! :hug: Anyway, now I've been so rude about your building, any chance you could get a picture of Springfield Court next time you do your rounds? Much obliged.

Comdot

May 27th, 2008, 11:00 PM

am just saying they build housing for the lower end of the market, at least round here it seems. this is why it looks basic. could they do better but keep costs the same?

springfield court... sure. caught my eye a few months ago, not seen it lately though. :)

highriser

May 28th, 2008, 07:10 PM

oi i live in a bellway building! :)

Hehe ,, so do i now :)

And i love it here :)

Comdot

May 28th, 2008, 07:24 PM

Hehe ,, so do i now :)

And i love it here :)

me too. i only wish mine had cctv but you get what you pay for. going to look nice in lamba court when the trees and bushes grow.

highriser

May 28th, 2008, 07:37 PM

Ive just moved to City South , the security is fantastic , the veiws ive got of the city are great , the finish inside our apartment are excellent ,, im gonna love living here i just know it :)

Comdot

May 28th, 2008, 07:39 PM

City South

bastard ;)

highriser

May 28th, 2008, 07:48 PM

nicky2tu

May 28th, 2008, 08:40 PM

Got a letter today from Ask saying that the former BT building at Grand Island is due to be completed in December ,, the next stage starts in June in which they are removing all the old gas pipes buried under ground , i didnt know there used to be a gas works on that site .

I remember it. It was called Gaythorn Gas works.

http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/Display.php?irn=39685&QueryPage=%2FAdvQuery.php

Comdot

May 28th, 2008, 09:04 PM

When i get settled in ,, pop round with ya camera sometime you'll get some great pics ,,, im gonna take some pics soon , but my camera is shite ,,.

Got a letter today from Ask saying that the former BT building at Grand Island is due to be completed in December ,, the next stage starts in June in which they are removing all the old gas pipes buried under ground , i didnt know there used to be a gas works on that site .

cheers :cheers: shall we have the next forum meetup round yours?
you live next to lloyds tsb's office, my mate lives in the one on the t-junction that's on the medlock. he has a good view but unfortunately it's looking south, not at the city. looking forward to your pics.

Goldie

June 12th, 2008, 12:18 AM

Bit o' lower broughton, as worked over by Countryside Properties:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/Goldie_78/P6100008.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/Goldie_78/P6100011.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/Goldie_78/P6100010.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/Goldie_78/P6100007.jpg

Irish Blood English Heart

June 12th, 2008, 12:55 PM

That looks just like Milton Keynes where I grew up. Is this where they CPO'd people's terraced homes for ridiculously low and then built 300k homes on the same spot?

Comdot

June 12th, 2008, 01:12 PM

thought that was langworthy?

Goldie

June 12th, 2008, 05:56 PM

I think that might be Higher Broughton ("Broughton Green" now) just up the road - http://www.broughtongreen.co.uk/home.php ?

coughy

June 12th, 2008, 10:56 PM

That looks just like Milton Keynes where I grew up. Is this where they CPO'd people's terraced homes for ridiculously low and then built 300k homes on the same spot?

Blimey IBEH you aint one of those Beanhill kids are you?!!

Irish Blood English Heart

June 13th, 2008, 05:29 PM

I spent my formative years in Bradwell Village MK for better or worse, moved away at 16 and have hardly been back.

coughy

June 13th, 2008, 09:30 PM

I spent my formative years in Bradwell Village MK for better or worse, moved away at 16 and have hardly been back.

What a small world it is:lol:! I too lived in Bradwell Village (Ramsey Close) for a few years! Thank God I now live in Manchester...

Comdot

June 13th, 2008, 09:52 PM

you don't yet know it but you are long lost brothers.

Irish Blood English Heart

June 14th, 2008, 03:53 AM

What a small world it is:lol:! I too lived in Bradwell Village (Ramsey Close) for a few years! Thank God I now live in Manchester...

I know it well, I lived at 19 Rawlings Road for the first 16 years of my life, just a stones throw eh? Thankfully moved away to Newcastle and have spent my life between here and Manchester since (with the odd time in Berlin and London thrown in). You probably feel like I then that we're uniquely qualified to talk about the horrors of suburbia, give me Manchester any day of the week.

SleepyOne

June 19th, 2008, 11:40 PM

The HKR designed block on Springfield Lane is nearing completion and looking rather striking, I have to say.

Could this be the only building of any quality Bellway have developed in the city?

Thanks Comdot.

Springfield Court - Springfield Lane, Central Salford

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2008_6_16%20interest/IMG_5302%20copy.jpg

Mez

August 7th, 2008, 03:03 PM

From Skyscrapernews.

Currently in pre-planning between Salford City Council and architects HKR is this new tower proposal for developer, the Artisan Group.

The developer ran a competition to erect a new design on the Brown Brothers Building that saw HKR Architects beat off finalists Glen Howells and Studio Egretwest.

HKR secured the job with proposals that feature a slender rectangular 17 floor residential and hotel tower that we estimate will be about 52 metres in height with additional residential apartments in curving low-rise blocks.

Overlooking Trinity Way, the tower features floor to ceiling glass with a green tint on one half creating a smooth block. Some depth is added to the facades thanks to the recessed balconies that some floors feature whilst colour is present in the form of an occasional panel of pastel red, green or blue.

The other half of the building is more coloured orange with projecting balconies on the sides in a myriad of strong colours although the green tinted glazing continues where present.

The lower-rise residential apartments will have green roofs on the top of them for their occupiers to enjoy accessed by spiraling staircases. Arranged on the site like a series of snakes wriggling around, they will be clad in pre-cast concrete panels that work as a sharp contrast to the glass sheen of the main building.

Landscaped public areas are included between the buildings, opening the site up with ground floor retail set to provide animated uses for the buildings lowest levels. Also included in the plans is a secure child's play area.

The scheme is now in consultation with amongst others, Salford City Council, to see how it can progress and be integrated into the Central Salford Masterplan.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1671TheFuturesBrightTheFuturesBrown_pic1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1671TheFuturesBrightTheFuturesBrown_pic2.jpg

Chogmook

August 7th, 2008, 03:06 PM

So basically the exising building will be demolished?

The Longford

August 7th, 2008, 06:39 PM

So basically the exising building will be demolished?

That was always the intention wasnt it?

Chogmook

August 7th, 2008, 08:37 PM

Shame it couldn't be incorporated into the scheme.

The Longford

August 7th, 2008, 08:51 PM

Shame it couldn't be incorporated into the scheme.

But that,my friend, would have taken imagination, hard work and a cut in profit.
Therefore...........................

macc

August 8th, 2008, 09:40 AM

rolybling

August 8th, 2008, 10:14 AM

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1671TheFuturesBrightTheFuturesBrown_pic2.jpg

Woah. Thats pretty gross

Firstly, what ARE those blue and yellow things on the pavement outside? Is it some sort of "play area"? If so it looks like a bit of a cheap after thought. Wouldn't you say?

Secondly, what are those long slat type things covering the windows on the lower blocks? they look like them multicoloured curtain thingies my mum hangs at the back door to keep the flies out in summer. Or are they designer security bars/grills? They look weird.

Third, who is going to mow the "lawns" on the roof?

The tall building looks ok from that side but I'd like to see the other side.

The Longford

August 8th, 2008, 10:47 AM

I think what you are trying to say roly is "That is fucking shit".

Isaac Newell

August 8th, 2008, 11:02 AM

Very Parisian suburban.

The Longford

August 8th, 2008, 11:30 AM

Very Parisian suburban.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2150/2340363117_ca240dc024.jpg?v=0

staticmeltdown

August 8th, 2008, 12:14 PM

Theses green roofs:

They sound quite good. I like the idea that people who are on the lower floors can still access the views from the top of the building. Plus as a communal garden it would seem to work far better than converting courtyard space that you can't use without feeling the world is watching you. Not to mention the unobstructed exposure to the sun.

They don't seem very common though. It doesn't exaclty require a stroke of genius to come up with the idea. How come they didn't take off in the 60s? My gran's tower block roof was accessbile (via lock and key) and people used to hang their washing up there. Why not a garden too? Surely an attempt to hide the functional parts of the building that are placed on the roof can be made.

The fact that some developments have it means its possible but there must be some fundamental flaw that has prevented it from ctahcing on but I can't think what? Any ideas?

Just looked round the Zenith building on Chapel St (I'd forgotten how shit Salford was until I got there) for rental. The developers could only sell 6 due to market conditions, and have to rent the rest. I think this is what all developers are forced into at the moment, and may have to use that as their business plan for the foreseeable future.

Anyhow, the sales marketing brochure for Zenith shows a lovely roof "garden", with landscaping trees and garden furniture. In reality the area is just tiled white, no furniture, no where to sit. Useless. I asked the developer about it, she said it would stay that way. I imagine a lot of roof gardens end up this way - simply a marketing ploy.

My conclusion is roof gardens could only really work in luxury / very well managed blocks of flats where residents are paying enough for the upkeep - most management companies seem to find simple tasks like maintaining a front door to be beyond them.

rolybling

August 9th, 2008, 12:09 AM

I think what you are trying to say roly is "That is fucking shit".

Something like that!

Will thankfully[probably] never see the light of day.

And thank fuck for that!!

Comdot

August 9th, 2008, 08:39 PM

i don't like the brown brothers building.
i do however like the gresham and craven building.

Comdot

August 9th, 2008, 08:49 PM

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/brown%20brothers%20building%20salford.jpg

heatonparkincakes

August 10th, 2008, 03:32 PM

At first I thought this was about the trees that used to grow out fo the roof of the rundown Turks head pub off shudehill.

But we can argue over the colour scheme, but I think roof gardens are an asset than an arsehole.

But they can only exist where residents are paid to pay and police them.

Thats why you end up with what bare tiles, plus a major difficulty is our weather which hardly encourages open top of the roof activities.

Much prefer if there was much more ground level public spaces than this.

TheGrand

August 10th, 2008, 09:25 PM

boooooo on that

Comdot

August 11th, 2008, 12:02 AM

old article with mention of the sale of the brown brothers building.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/232/232014_landmarks_with_two_very_different_futures.html

and an even older article about older plans for it.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/business/s/87/87052_salford_revival_time.html

Castlefield Andy

August 12th, 2008, 01:32 PM

From the MEN:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/business/commercial_property_news/s/1062115_plan_for_ordsall_shopping_centre

Plan for Ordsall shopping centre

12/ 8/2008

A SUPERMARKET deal could kick-start a £50m Salford development.

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/825.$plit/C_71_article_1062115_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?11%2F08%2F2008%2015%3A41%3A59%3A722
LPC Living's £52m mixed use scheme.

A leading supermarket chain is understood to be close to signing up for a 50,000 sq ft store on the site of the former Radclyffe School, Trafford Road, Salford.

The deal, said to be close to completion, will pave the way for another 25,000 sq ft of shops and around 280 new homes.

The development is by LPC Living, the property business created by entrepreneur Pervaiz Naviede.

The Radclyffe School proposal has been submitted to Salford planners.

It is part of the £150m Heart of Ordsall Development framework - part of a long-term plan to regenerate the once-notorious Orsdall estate.

Jeremy Simpson, partner at Tushingham Moore, which is advising on the development, said: "LPC Living is in negotiations with a leading food retailer to occupy the supermarket.

"We have also been talking to local independent retailers who have already expressed an interest in taking a lease on some of the units, once they are available."

The new development would be fairly close to mediacity:uk, the vast development being built at Salford Quays by Peel Holdings.

LPC says it `will help create a new and vibrant district shopping centre for Ordsall' and existing local traders will have first option on the smaller units.

The Pervaiz Naviede family trust is one of the most active investors in Manchester property.

Earlier this year Harada, a company owned by the Guernsey-based trust, bought 12-22 St Ann's Square and St Ann's Arcade in Manchester for a figure close to £20m.

It plans to refurbish the 19th century properties and re-open Barton Square as a retail location.

The property includes St Anns Arcade, a covered arcade linking St Ann's Square to Barton Square and leading to Barton Arcade.

Tenants are Office, Currys, T-Mobile, McDonalds, Lakeland and Cheltenham & Gloucester.

Comdot

August 17th, 2008, 09:41 PM

the future's brown

6 shots today of the brown brother's building. i wonder why the advertising banner is down. doesn't seem very jc decaux! at least we get to have a look at the building now.

the only real reason i'm for it being replaced by the artisan group is that for the location i think it would woefully be lacking in density to incorporate it into a new scheme. the current building does have its merits.

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2008_08_17/brown%20brother's%20building/IMG_6388%20copy.jpg

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2008_08_17/brown%20brother's%20building/IMG_6390%20copy.jpg

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2008_08_17/brown%20brother's%20building/IMG_6391%20copy.jpg

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2008_08_17/brown%20brother's%20building/IMG_6392%20copy.jpg

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2008_08_17/brown%20brother's%20building/IMG_6393%20copy.jpg

http://www.nickgrayson.net/ssc/2008_08_17/brown%20brother's%20building/IMG_6394%20copy.jpg