Central Salford Developments

[highriser]

A crane as gone up at Spectrum on Blackfriers Rd ,,,and the Abito sito was very busy this morning,,,


Thought i'll start a new thread for this,so all the developments dont get mixed up



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[highriser]

A crane as gone up on Blackfriers,,,facing the Black Lion pub



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[jrb]

Taken from todays Homes supplement in the MEN!

Images!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/KOPRYTU.jpg

Full article!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/MPRTYUI.jpg

Development website!

http://www.broughtongreen.co.uk/

One to keep an eye on!

http://www.inpartnershipgroup.com/

More info from dtz!

http://www.dtz.com/residential/newhomes.nsf/flash.html

[9462]

Salford - 9th worst plave to live in the uk.

They dident mention that did they.


(It was on a programme last night)
I dont think this development will stop all the chavs being there will it?
Building houses for the jews seems like religionist discrimination to me. I know it doesnt say that its for the jews, but trust me, it is.

[caw123]

Sorry, this new Jews-only housing development would have passed me by?

Do you seriously think a developer would do that? These new houses are for anyone who wants to pay for them. This new development is actually concentrated in Higher Broughton which is mostly run down council estate, not Broughton Park which is the Jew-dominated area just north.

[SleepyOne]

Central Salford News:

Irish investor's interested in Abito



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Investors are likely to be interested in the launch of a new contemporary studio apartment development in Manchester. The first of its kind in Britain, the Abito condominium complex at Greengate has been designed to capitalise on the demand for low-cost, high-quality living spaces.

Developer Abito, the innovation arm of local firm Ask Property Developments, expects the €8.5 million scheme to be complete in the summer of next year when it will comprise 256 studios - 200 apartments with 32 square metres of living space and 56 of the larger Abito maxis, which extend to 58 square metres and are set within a three-sided tower of polished concrete and glass.

The majority of the units available at the scheme are under the British stamp duty threshold of stg£120,000 with prices averaging stg£108,000 for the normal studios and stg£139,000 for the maxi studios. A total of 50 apartments are available off the plans through the Prestige Group, which has branches in Dublin and Galway.

Local agents claim that rental yields for the apartments will be among the strongest in the city when the development is completed in July 2006, and are predicting rents of stg£500 per month for the smaller units.

The brainchild of interior designer Jasper Sanders and architect Gavin Elliot of the Building Design Partnership, the Abito project aims to offer “sophisticated living'‘ within a compact living space.

The design of the individual apartments centres around a four-sided pod that divides the studio space into two - one area for sleeping, complete with a fold-down bed, fold-out work station and integrated wardrobes and storage, and one space for living, equipped with a fitted kitchen and reception area, shower room and utility room. All apartments have their own balconies, high ceilings and floor to ceiling windows spanning the full width of the property. The space above the pod can be utilised as an extra bed deck if required.

Other features include fitted combination microwave ovens, two-ring hobs, fridges and dishwashers, a remote control lighting and heating system, and a video entry system. A 24-hour concierge service will provide a range of services.

The Greengate area is within a few minutes of the Harvey Nichols department store as well as the main shopping area of King Street, and is also within walking distance of the business district. Investors will require 5 per cent for an initial deposit, followed by another 5 per cent due in September, with the 90 per cent balance due on completion.








Go-ahead for 2,500 homes in Salford

Catherine Ascroft
THE transformation of derelict areas in Salford into 2,500 new homes can go ahead with news that developers have been chosen.

After a tough selection process, The Charlestown and Kearlsey New Deal for Communities (NDC) and Salford City Council have confirmed the companies picked to make the plans a reality.

They have chosen Miller Homes along with Inspired Developments to work together in a joint partnership to regenerate the area.

Areas for revival include a former high school site with elevated views over Salford's skyline and a new riverside scheme overlooking the Irwell.

Once redeveloped, the abandoned and underused sites will become a range of family and executive houses and apartments with affordable housing schemes included in all the developments.

The £400m regeneration will also include the demolition of around 350 terraces and local authority homes which have fallen into disrepair. A number of other council and private properties will also be improved under the scheme.

Miller Homes, part of the Miller Group, will be responsible for building 80 per cent of the residential homes while Inspired Developments, a Seddon Group company, take on the remainder as well as retail schemes and other community based projects.

Ann-Marie Pickup, Chair of the NDC Partnership Board said: "We already have a number of exciting projects including two new Health and Social Care centres, the Beacon Youth Centre and the Salford Sports Centre.

"The appointment of Miller Homes and Inspired Development means that we can now start the process of working with local residents to come up with schemes that will bring new housing to the area."

Mike Bowman, Land Director of Miller Homes said: "Together with Inspired Developments, our proposals will ultimately create a vibrant, successful and sustainable community in this area of Salford."








Central Salford Urban Regeneration Company (URC)

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The recently launched Draft Vision and Regeneration Framework for Central Salford demonstrates how Salford will become one of the most beautiful parts of Greater Manchester.

Led by Central Salford Urban Regeneration Company (URC), the new Draft Vision outlines an ambitious approach to the city’s regeneration; building on the area’s natural assets to create a city of outstanding beauty.

The Framework demonstrates how Salford will be transformed over the next ten to twenty years into a place characterised by dramatic waterside vistas, high quality green public spaces, pedestrian friendly streets, rejuvenated heritage buildings and modern architectural gems. It will be an active, vibrant, urban district.


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Published by Central Salford Urban Regeneration Company and its core partners – the Northwest Regional Development Agency (NWDA), English Partnerships and Salford City Council – the framework was developed by an international consortium of architects, urban strategists, planners and economists who have worked alongside local communities and stakeholders.

Joe Berridge of Urban Strategies, part of the international team working in Salford said: "Salford has hidden itself from the world. When projects like The Lowry happen the world is surprised. Well it's about to be surprised again. Above all we want to make Central Salford an enjoyable place, like the best parts of the best cities, where people choose to live, to work and to enjoy themselves. This is not an impossible dream - the proximity to booming central Manchester, the rich array of heritage buildings, the extraordinary river - these are the mix for a great city."

The Draft Vision and Regeneration Framework has a number of key themes which, once combined, will bring lasting and significant changes to Central Salford.

Building on strengths
With the aim of building on Central Salford’s strengths, a number of key priority areas have been identified: the Chapel Street Corridor, Salford Central Station, Pendleton, the Quays / Canal District and the Irwell Corridor.

Green spaces and tree-lined boulevards
A network of newly paved, green, tree-lined streets will be established within Central Salford, in order to strengthen the connections and movement between communities.

Stunning riverside developments
An interconnected river and open space system will renew the life and vibrancy of the River Irwell and will re-integrate the river system with parks and open spaces. A continuous walk along the river’s edge will provide new opportunities for walking and cycling.

Investing in the heart of Salford
A focus on Chapel Street will re-establish a strong and distinctive centre for Central Salford and revitalise the street quality, encouraging new commercial, leisure and retail investment. The renewal of Chapel Street will connect the economic heart of Manchester to the city of Salford.

Connected communities
Fundamental improvements to Central Salford’s transport routes will enable greater movement within the city, establishing an attractive city core and supporting the connectivity of neighbouring communities.

Felicity Goodey, Chair, Central Salford URC said: “This Vision is built on the natural beauty of people and places in Salford, assets which have for too long been hidden under the dereliction and poverty with which the City has been grappling since the end of the industrial revolution.”

Central Salford URC’s work is delivered in partnership with the community and the many other agencies that are working hard to boost the health, education, skills and employment opportunities of the local population.

Feedback on the Draft Vision and Regeneration Framework for Central Salford is being received through a collective of community groups and representatives who will be hosting a number of consultation and stakeholder events. Responses can also be submitted to the Central Salford website at www.centralsalford.com . More details about the consultation events and a summary of the Draft Vision and Regeneration Framework are also available to download from the Central Salford website. The final Vision and Regeneration Framework will be published in Autumn 2005.

[andyains]

The tower in that last picture has something of the CJC in it.

I like the environment focus of the Draft Vision from the URC. Makes a change from the 'lets build lots of new flats' approach

[Jongeman]

Salford - 9th worst plave to live in the uk.

They dident mention that did they.


(It was on a programme last night)
I dont think this development will stop all the chavs being there will it?
Building houses for the jews seems like religionist discrimination to me. I know it doesnt say that its for the jews, but trust me, it is.

With attitudes like yours, maybe 'the Jews' need a bit of positive 'religionist' discrimination (whatever that is).

Ask yourself

[9462]

With attitudes like yours, maybe 'the Jews' need a bit of positive 'religionist' discrimination

positive discrimination? how does that work?

Your saying we need to discriminate them more?

With attitudes like yours

how could your figure what kind of attitude i had?

and whats wrong with building houses for the jews anyway. Theyre sensible people and know what they want and get it. Is there anything wrong with that?

[Jongeman]

positive discrimination? how does that work?

Your saying we need to discriminate them more?

To be honest, your original comments were completely discriminatory. Against Jews, Chavs and Salford. In whichever order.

What's all that about?

[rolybling]

Its not for "The Jews" at all, its for local residents that already live round there and any new ones that want to move in, my mate lives round the corner and as far as I know current residents have the first shout if they are interested. His mum and dad are Irish incase you were wondering. Its mostly Caucasians of English/British or Irish descent or Africans round there now, the Jews live in totally different parts of Manchester, namely Prestwich and Whitefield

[skymann]

Its not for "The Jews" at all, its for local residents that already live round there and any new ones that want to move in, my mate lives round the corner and as far as I know current residents have the first shout if they are interested. His mum and dad are Irish incase you were wondering. Its mostly Caucasians of English/British or Irish descent or Africans round there now, the Jews live in totally different parts of Manchester, namely Prestwich and Whitefield

Can't agree with you there. That area of Higher Broughton adjacent to Brougton Park is probably the most concentrated area of North Manchester's Jewish community. Very orthodox Jews as well so very clearly Jewish on a Friday. There is no bar on anyone buying the new houses, but I would be surprised if many were not bought by North Manchester's affluent Jewish community - and good luck to them. They help the area and North Manchester as a whole in economic terms. You won't find any ASBOs against the Jewish community that's for sure.

[9462]

jews are mostly the only people who can afford it around there, thats all im saying.

the Jews live in totally different parts of Manchester, namely Prestwich and Whitefield

yes but they mostly live around broughton

comments were completely discriminatory

thats because i hate chavs, and i hate parts of salford.
As for jews ive never said anything against them.



Theyve demolished about half off the side of the flats at broughton green now.

[skit_uk]

Ordsall park redevelopments??

check this link. http://www.nicve.salford.ac.uk/vets/OrdsallPark.shtml

[dgnr8]

SCALLIES FOR FUCKS SAKE, FUCKING SCALLIES. Jesus fucking Christ, what the frig's happened to the World when Mancs are saying "chav"?

[caw123]

Shut it dgnr8 you filthy chav.

[jrb]

Some interesting planning apps!

Victoria Warehouse

Reference: 05/51180/ART10
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: Panamint And TDG Ltd
Ward:
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Nancy Thynne
Telephone: 0161 793 2750
Location: Victoria Warehouse Trafford Park Road Trafford Trafford Article 10
Proposal: Article 10 Consultation received from Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council in respect of a planning application for the erection of a mixed use development comprising 388 residential units, hotel use, office use, D2 leisure use, A1/A2/A3 retail use, community use together with 561 underground car spaces


Urban Splash. Langworthy

Reference: 05/51208/FUL
Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: Urban Splash/City Of Salford
Ward: Langworthy
Grid Reference: 380738 398898
Case Officer: Anthony Stephenson
Telephone: 0161 793 3767
Location: Residential Properties Within Field Street, Fir Street, Laburnum Street, Ash Street, Reservoir Street And Alder Street Salford 6
Proposal: Substantial demolition and re-build of 349 terraced houses to include the retention of the existing street elevations and the creation of courtyard gardens and covered parking to the rear

London And Palative Estates.

Doesn't sound interesting, but take a closer look?! ( London And Palative Estates, stephenson Bell Architects, Urban Vision Partnership)

Anybody know what this residential development is?

Reference: 05/50308/COU
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: London And Palative Estates
Ward: Ordsall
Grid Reference: 383268 398865
Case Officer: Kurt Partington
Telephone: 0161 793 2493
Location: Land To Rear Of 41 Blackfriars Road Salford M3 7DB
Proposal: Use of land as a car parking compound and erection of 2.4m high boundary wall

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist.htm

[highriser]

The core at Spectrum is starting to rise now,and a base for a second crane is in place

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/tuesdayaug004.jpg

[Accura4Matalan]

How big will Spectrum be? I'm totally lost on this development. Cant remember seeing renders in the pre-hack thread.

[Potato Man]

http://picserver.mirror.twistspace.com/img.php?/42356X067X9H/0X0D129LU8VY/JPEG/1105892575//j5rp

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/ZZE36Z5T0BOG

[Accura4Matalan]

Nice one. Bigger than I'd expected. Thanks :)

[Jongeman]

****

[caw123]

Just been past Spectrum on the train, train line goes right next to the site, several cores on the rise along with lots of steel framing.

[jrb]

Taken from the MEN!

Looks like work is about to begin in Langworthy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/klopyrh.jpg

[9462]

Did anyone see the m.e.n. yesterday?

Like hundreds of other people salford council forced a cumpulsory purchase on about 100 houses in higher broughton. There are one family in particular who dont want to be forced from there house.

The council are offering(forcing) them to sell it back to them for 20,000. With other houses in the area wich have already been sold for 16,and 17,000. If they dont sell them there house the case will go to court and they may get less for there house.

The houses are back to back to a jewish community (which are the same houses)
THEY are getting up to £180,000 for there houses.

Well, whats your opinion on that?

I know what mine is.

[Accura4Matalan]

Thats fantastic. All terraced houses should be done up like that instead of being demolished. It just goes to show that they can be brilliant homes :)

[caw123]

The houses are back to back to a jewish community (which are the same houses)
THEY are getting up to £180,000 for there houses.

Well, whats your opinion on that?

I know what mine is.

That's bullshit.

[9462]

That's bullshit.

Nope. Its the truth, i know it doesnt sound right but that was actually the case.

See, my dads a landlord for some houses around there. He got compulsary purchse orders on them from salford council. ( because he had to )

Check it out yourself if you dont believe me. Houses back to back with a huge difference in price.

[Farsight]

Accura: try living in one of them. I think they're depressing, a reminder of a poorer parochial past that attracts misplaced rose-tinted sentimentality. I wish they were erased, bulldozed, cleared, and a fresh start made with something fit for the 21st century.

[Metrolink]

9462 - that story, including the people involved, and Salford Concil leader was on 5 live the other day.

The fact that some people there are Jewish is irrelevant isn't it?

They are being offered about £36k each for their houses - along with some loans that they will not have to pay back - this is the most generous that SCC could be given the current law on compulsary purchase.

Virtually every single person offered the money too it, there is just about 3 houses left.

From the story on 5live, the council came across very well, with the families that were refusing to move coming across not so well.

[9462]

Virtually every single person offered the money too it, there is just about 3 houses left.

All houses that were sold BEFORE thease houses where sold for peanuts, which is a LOT less than they are worth.

try living in one of them. I think they're depressing, a reminder of a poorer parochial past that attracts misplaced rose-tinted sentimentality. I wish they were erased, bulldozed, cleared, and a fresh start made with something fit for the 21st century.

you wouldnt say that if you had been living there all your life.

I've seen houses in chorlton that are exactly the same, the houses would be fine if they were sand blasted etc.

Thats fantastic. All terraced houses should be done up like that instead of being demolished. It just goes to show that they can be brilliant homes

I agree.

From the story on 5live, the council came across very well, with the families that were refusing to move coming across not so well.

Thats what the wanted you to think!

So, this is how i see it in reality.

-The council run the place down for 20 years and do nothing.

-They force the people out of there homes and offer them low prices (eg 17,000).

-They say its a crap place to live (which it is) But the council are responsible for that.

-Sell the houses for more to the developers.

-The developers do them up a bit and sell them for 3 times the price.

-The council makes a huge profit.

-People are left to move somwhere else.

Think about it, would you like that happening to you.

The council also got CPOs on some houses, and then decided NOT to even bulldoze them. Are going to sell them for a high price later on. Which is a bitch if you actually lived there, because the council are ripping you off.

Its all to make money.

Why dident they do this ages ago? Because they dident have the oppertunity to make money. Most of the salford council are complete assholes who live in huge houses in Wilmslow and havent been through this. What if it was there house? Would that be demolished, and them be ripped off?

[Farsight]

My grandparents used to live in these houses, and for a while, my parents, and me. So I feel I have some qualification when I tell you it's a crap place to live because of all those crappy little terraced houses and all the arseholes who live in them.

Wipe them away, please.

[caw123]

I've seen houses in chorlton that are exactly the same, the houses would be fine if they were sand blasted etc.


Thats what the wanted you to think!

So, this is how i see it in reality.

-The council run the place down for 20 years and do nothing.

-They force the people out of there homes and offer them low prices (eg 17,000).

-They say its a crap place to live (which it is) But the council are responsible for that.

-Sell the houses for more to the developers.

-The developers do them up a bit and sell them for 3 times the price.

-The council makes a huge profit.

-People are left to move somwhere else.

Think about it, would you like that happening to you.



Houses in Chorlton that are exactly the same?

The same except for the fact that Chorlton hasn't been overrun by drug gangs and criminals, and that the houses in Chorlton haven't been left to rot, the terrace houses in Chorlton are not falling to pieces.

I don't see why you are blaming Salford Council. They have not 'run the place down'. People have been moving out of these areas for the past 20 years because they're full of crime and the houses are tiny and shitty, throughout the 80s and early 90s the economy of the whole UK was in bad shape, and the council had very little money to throw around improving peoples homes. The place degenerated, people moved out, houses were boarded up and left to crumble.

Now that hardly anyone is living in the area and the council has a bit of money to invest, there is an oppurtunity for these massive regeneration projects will begin. And yes, some people will be forcably moved but so what, they will not be left homeless, they will be given new homes nearby.

Renovate a few of these old houses for sentimentality. Wipe out the rest, they are crap.

[skit_uk]

How has the council run the place down. At the end of the day all the council has to look after are the roads and lamp posts. I'm sure it's a lot more to do with some of the residents in the area. I've seen exactly the same types of streets but 4 roads further away look completely different. For a start nicely cut hedges and trees and clean unsmashed windows. That's not the councils job

[9462]

the council moved them in, so its the councils responsibility to deal with that.


That's not the councils job

[highriser]

2 more of the St Georges blocks are rising now

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/6september005.jpg

[caw123]

^ Not Central Salford mate!

Tempus is motoring now
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/305TempusToweratIrwellQuays_pic5.jpg

[Accura4Matalan]

Nice :) I wonder if they will reopen that pedestrian footbridge over the railway in central salford masterplan. I hope they dont get rid :(

[markydeedrop]

Developer Nikal has received planning permission for a £60m mixed use scheme in Salford, Greater Manchester.

The Sillavan Way development comprises:

· 405 apartments,

· 50,000 sq ft offices

· and 5,000 sq ft of retail.

The scheme is situated on the border of Manchester city centre, less than 500m from Spinningfields.

Jonathan Wrigley, development director of Nikal, said:
"This scheme is a good example of how Nikal works to identify regeneration areas early on.

"We acquired the site 12 months ago originally as an industrial investment but we soon recognised the potential that this area of Salford had to offer and worked hard with Salford Vision and the newly established URC to produce a viable and exciting scheme."

Office space will be provided in three self-contained office buildings of between 1,500 and 20,000 sq ft.

Nikal is likely to quote rents of around £15 per sq ft on the scheme but will also market the buildings on a freehold basis.

Subject to planning, the developer aims to start on site by the end of the year and anticipates that the scheme will be complete by autumn 2008.

The architect is Leach Rhodes Walker.

http://www.egi.co.uk/webpics/cmspics/28977.JPG

[Accura4Matalan]

Looks a little like that Chessboard thing in Leeds :(

[markydeedrop]

SALFORD'S FUTURE:

Nikal regeneration PROPERTY developer Nikal has submitted a planning application for permission to create a £42m mixed-use scheme in Salford. Called Sillavan Way, it will include 405 apartments, 50,000 sq ft of office space and 5,000 sq ft of new shops.

The scheme will be one of the first new office developments on the Salford side of the Irwell since the government announced the creation of a new urban regeneration company, Central Salford, to lead the city's economic growth.

Jonathan Wrigley, development director at Nikal, said: "We acquired the site 12 months ago, originally as an industrial investment.

"However, we soon recognised the potential that this area of Salford had to offer and worked hard with the newly established Central Salford to produce a viable and exciting scheme."

Success

The developers hope to see rents of £15 a sq ft.

They will be aiming to emulate the success of the nearby Deva Centre, which created a new mix of offices on the site of a brewery.

"Through the Chapel Street regeneration and, more recently, the Central Salford urban regeneration company, Salford has shown a firm commitment to the renewal of this important corridor and is encouraging high-quality mixed-use developments such as Sillavan Way," said Wrigley.

Nikal is due to start on site by the end of the year and anticipates that the scheme will be complete by autumn 2008.

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/221.$plit/C_17_Articles_172695_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg

[markydeedrop]

More action for central Salford. If you take a look at the Salford planning applications for this week you will find the following:

Reference: 05/51270/FUL
Ward: Irwell Riverside
Location: 6-8 Trinity Court, St Stephen St, Salford
Proposal: Erection of 9 storey building comprising 50 apartments, 305 sq.m ground floor commercial unit and basement car parking.

Someone take a look at the file and then download the renders onto here if you get a chance. It's actually on the renders on the corner of Trinity Way and Chapel Street, next to a small apartment block just completed by Space. Opposite the nasty Bellway block.

Link to Salford planning applications: http://www.salford.gov.uk/planninglist

[Potato Man]

^ Not Central Salford mate!

Tempus is motoring now
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/305TempusToweratIrwellQuays_pic5.jpg

Neither is Tempus. It's on the Manchester side of the river. ;)

Another off topic picture
http://www.faldoc.co.uk/photo_falmouth/maritime_museum.jpg
Maritime Museum, Falmouth - opened about 10 years ago

[caw123]

Bitch. :tongue:

Spectrum today.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2561BlackfriarsTower1_pic3.jpg

[Potato Man]

Thanks to Sleepy for reminding me to post these with his CJC comments.

The full regeneration strategy for Cental Salford have now been published online(shows far more detail than the pamphlets and Salford Advirtiser posted earlier).

Here we have the executive summary, which is rich in pictures and maps
http://www.centralsalford.com/site/Resources/Summary-Designed.pdf

And the text only framework document
url=http://www.centralsalford.com/site/Resources/Final-Doc-17-08-05.pdf

The executive summary in particular is worth 20 minutes of your time.

http://www.centralsalford.com

[Northbeach]

Thanks for this Tates.

[highriser]

Looks like i nearly bumped into u again Caw :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/22sept005.jpg

[highriser]

Spectrum today,,,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/2october015.jpg

[jrb]

Couple of intresting planning apps!

Trinity Court apartment block(good b/w renders/looks average) and a casino!(looks........?)

Reference: 05/51270/FUL
Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: M Keelty And M Field
Ward: Irwell Riverside
Grid Reference: 383010 398635
Case Officer: Tim Hartley
Telephone: 0161 793 3769
Location: 6-8 Trinity Court St Stephen Street Salford
Proposal: Erection of a nine storey building comprising 50 apartments, 305 sq.m ground floor commercial unit and basement car parking
Submit comments on this application

Reference: 05/51306/ART10
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: Rank Group Gaming Division
Ward:
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Miss Sam Key
Telephone: 0161 793 3624
Location: Site At Corner Of Bury New Road And Broughton Lane Strangeways Manchester
Proposal: Article 10 consultation by Manchester City Council for external alterations to existing casino with associated signage

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist.htm

[Legin]

Looks like i nearly bumped into u again Caw :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/22sept005.jpg


Highriser. If you want to see a render of this go to timeandtidehomes.com. Its called The Approach.

[markydeedrop]

Here is the information the Blackfriars Approach scheme:

http://www.timeandtidehomes.com/images/uploads/The%20Approach.jpg

Situated only yards from Deansgate and now 24-hour city centre of Manchester. The approach at Blackfriars is a development of 54 apartments, underground secure parking and managed office space to the ground floor. Now under construction watch with anticipation as another development by Time & Tide springs out of the ground.

[9462]

never knew it looked like that

[jrb]

Interesting planning application from Peel Holdings!

Proposed Trafford Quays water taxi basin, including new canal arm, associated infrastructure and ancillary building!

Reference: 05/51496/ART10
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: Peel Holdings Ltd
Ward:
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Nancy Thynne
Telephone: 0161 793 2750
Location: Land Bounded By Trafford Way, Trafford Boulevard, Redclyffe Road And Manchester Ship Canal Trafford Park
Proposal: Article 10 Consultation received from Traffod MBC in respect of new canal arm, water taxi basin, associated infrastructure and ancillary building


Any clues? Could it be the new canal/arm proposed for dock 9, we've seen on the latest rendering?

These water taxis were mentioned in the Mersey Basin PDF in the four huge towers for Pomona thread!

Another intresting application!(quite a nice sleek development!)

Reference: 05/51498/FUL
Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: Irwell Valley Housing Association Ltd
Ward: Irwell Riverside
Grid Reference: 383092 399077
Case Officer: Tim Hartley
Telephone: 0161 793 3769
Location: Land Bounded By Blackfriars Road, St Stephen Street And Richmond Street Salford M3 7FY
Proposal: Demolition of existing public house and erection of a seven storey building comprising 59 apartments with basement car parking and construction of new vehicular and pedestrian accesses

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist.htm

[caw123]

Nowhere near Dock 9 mate, the site described is west of the Trafford centre.

[Chogmook]

I can see a popular water taxi service happening between the two quays of salford and trafford, it'll be great to give the ship canal a real river-like feel to it! Bring it on!!

[Lookin Up]

JRB
For info - when looking at these planning notices you'll see a line that says:
Decision Level: followed by either the word DEL or COMM simply meaning the decision to approve or reject is 'Delegated' (to the planning officer) or 'Committee' meaning the decision will be taken by the Planning Committee. The key difference being if anything is delegated, it's because it's a tiddler and therefore not likely to be of much interest to most people on this forum although I accept in this case there is a novelty angle to it.
Keep up the forensic work though! Cheers

[jrb]

JRB
For info - when looking at these planning notices you'll see a line that says:
Decision Level: followed by either the word DEL or COMM simply meaning the decision to approve or reject is 'Delegated' (to the planning officer) or 'Committee' meaning the decision will be taken by the Planning Committee. The key difference being if anything is delegated, it's because it's a tiddler and therefore not likely to be of much interest to most people on this forum although I accept in this case there is a novelty angle to it.
Keep up the forensic work though! Cheers

it's because it's a tiddler and therefore not likely to be of much interest to most people on this forum

:wallbash: I give up! Next?

[SleepyOne]

JRB
For info - when looking at these planning notices you'll see a line that says:
Decision Level: followed by either the word DEL or COMM simply meaning the decision to approve or reject is 'Delegated' (to the planning officer) or 'Committee' meaning the decision will be taken by the Planning Committee. The key difference being if anything is delegated, it's because it's a tiddler and therefore not likely to be of much interest to most people on this forum although I accept in this case there is a novelty angle to it.
Keep up the forensic work though! Cheers

To be fair, the article 10 consultation may indeed be deemed a minor matter by Salford City Council but the actual planning application sits within Trafford's boundaries and as such might be deemed a bit more important by Trafford Borough Council and indeed our lovely forumers. As it is, I personally think this is a pretty interesting development myself.

[Lookin Up]

:wallbash: I give up! Next?


aAAH now you're getting paranoid - read the last line of my post :)
Take it easy - keep up the good work.

[Jongeman]

I don't think jrb would post any old planning notice! Not one for a kitchen extension in Davyhulme or owt like that. lol

The water taxi basin app. is a good find. I can forsee a water bus service one day between new landing stages near the cathedral, Spinningfields, Pomona, Exchange Quay, this Trafford landing stage and the Lowry. Wouldn't that be cool? :)

[Lookin Up]

oh aye no doubt about it being a great thing.
Which reminds me, I remember in the mid 90s getting on a boat at Castlefield went all the way out to the Quays and back again - great ride then must be superb now. Does it still run? Can't remember the name of the operator - the boat had a kind of Amsterdam feel to it I seem to remember.....

[jrb]

aAAH now you're getting paranoid - read the last line of my post :)
Take it easy - keep up the good work.

Actually I'm getting annoyed, not paranoid!

Try using a bit of imagination like Sleepy and Jongeman! Look beyond the planning apllication and Visualize the eventual outcome !

Its somthing to get excited about!

[Farsight]

jrb: hint hint, gondolas mate.

:)

[highriser]

Oh i forgot to mention, the bulldozers are on site demolishing the existing building's to make way for the Sullivan Way apartment development on Chapel St.
These are'nt wasting anytime they only got PP 2 weeks ago. :)

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/221.$plit/C_17_Articles_172695_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg[/QUOTE]

[caw123]

That was quick!

Spectrum from Victoria Station
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2561BlackfriarsTower1_pic4.jpg

An update of Fusion - looks like there's been a fire in a Salford tower block
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/PA130080copy.jpg

The Edge
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/PA060036copy.jpg

How can we let such shit go up in this day and age?
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/PA060037copy.jpg

[jrb]

For those who haven't seen this site before!

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/images/6562/1204586844.jpg

http://www.europaconcorsi.com/db/pub/scheda.php?id=6562

[EarlyBird]

Anyone care to tell me what the orange blobs are??? Pools of vomit as people make their way home on a Friday night?

[SleepyOne]

Caw - I presume that phase of The Edge was built with the expectation of future buildings going up directly behind. Still a bit tawdry isn't it?

jrb - thanks. That looks like an image related to the visioning work fuksas architects have been doing for the Central Salford URC. By the way I notice in Salford Central station there are images of the refurbished and enlarged station. It says there will be a direct bridge link to Spinningfields which is interesting. They are clearly intent on making the area surrounding the station into a commercial hub.

[man med]

thats greengate bottom right..notice the towers.

[kids]

my house is on that masterplan!

[jrb]

Back to Peel and their new canal arm and water taxi!

Taken from the Trafford planning apps!

Ref Proposal
H/63055 Land bounded by Trafford Way, Trafford Boulevard, Redclyffe Road and the Manchester Ship Canal, Trafford Park.
Formation of a new canal arm and water taxi basin and associated infrastructure including erection of a new storage and maintenance building; formation of a new access road from Redclyffe Road; erection of a bridge over the proposed canal arm on the alignment of the Old Barton Road and car and coach parking. (Application received 22/09/2005)
No decision made yet

Paste Old Barton Road, Trafford, Greater Manchester, M30 in to http://local.google.co.uk/ and click on satellite. This will show you the exact location of the propsed development, which is currently a massive piece of empty land next to the Manchester Ship Canal and Trafford Centre! Note the planned access road from Redclyffe road and the Trafford centre! Right opposite the Venus office block! Peel must have big plans for the empty land!

Water taxi to Manchester and back please! :)

[highriser]

I have just received a PM from a German forumer, hes informed me the the cranes used at the Spectrum site are of a rare kind , he as asked if anyone is taking pics of this development could they also post a clear picture of the cranes, he would be very grateful , Cheers

[jrb]

The beach has finally been unveiled, or not as the Planning app reveals!

Looks like Urban Splash have decided to try Haus in Manchester aswell as Altrincham! Very similar!

Ps! Note the development comes under MCC boundries and not Salfords!

http://www.westonwilliamson.com/main.htm (original scheme!)

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist.htm(option1,2 and 3)

[markydeedrop]

The Urban Splash planning application makes reference to Fielden Clegg (www.fieldenclegg.com) who have some slightly updated images of the Greengate scheme on their website:

http://www.feildenclegg.com/images/projects/img//1222-M-GREENGATE-SALFORD.JPG

[Legin]

The beach has finally been inveiled, or not as the Planning app reveals!

Looks like Urban Splash have decided to try Haus in Manchester aswell as Altrincham! Very similar!

Ps! Note the development comes under MCC boundries and not Salfords!

http://www.westonwilliamson.com/main.htm (original scheme!)

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist.htm(option1,2 and 3)

Thanks JRB good to here some news on this one at last. But why would Salford do the planning approval if it falls within Manchetser. Are we talking geographic boundries as opposed to political.

[SleepyOne]

Yes this is surely in Salford.

Also why run a RIBA design competition only to throw out the winning design? The architects should be listed on the planning application. It should still be Weston Williamson and should still be largely the same design.

[dj]

I have just received a PM from a German forumer, hes informed me the the cranes used at the Spectrum site are of a rare kind , he as asked if anyone is taking pics of this development could they also post a clear picture of the cranes, he would be very grateful , Cheers

For your cr-anally retentive friend

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man045.jpg

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man046.jpg

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man047.jpg

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man048.jpg

[dgnr8]

Deej, don't you ever leave. You may rarely get compliments for your pics, but I'd wager that it's beause most people assume you're of the intelligence and maturity not to require pandering after every update. This is me after a fair few pints of stella after an evening out with Pa so I'm of course talking bollocks, but go with me. Anyway, you're ace and your pictures are magic. So don't stop, rocket baby.

[dj]

Don't plan on going anywhere Degen, or getting mixed up in any petty arguments. Spent 13 years as a dairy farmer and have had more than enough real bullshit to last me a lifetime without indulging in the virtual stuff. The puns however could be improved,cr-anally retentive, that is so bad!

[jrb]

In todays MEN Homes edition!

Abito, Clippers Quay! (looks better on the planning application below)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/KKKKKKOOPPPP.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/LOPPPQQQRWT.jpg

click link below and click search for full planning details and rendering!

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist/planninglist-search.htm?col1=planning&ref=50913

Ps! For those who use Photoshop to adjust and resize. Use 7.00 cm width on Image size/documemt size and it will come out just right! ^^(the above is 8.00 cm)

[Farsight]

OK, I got it. I missed the bit underneath where it said download the pdf for a while.

Hmmn. Interesting. You can see the building has got a central atrium with a big curvy suspended glass roof. Nice feature. Shame the building steps down rather than flows down and the apartments aren't a bit bigger so you don't need a fold-down bed. But aw, who's asking. Thanks for the info.

[caw123]

One of the Spectrum cores. Thought this was for one of the 14 storey towers but it seems it's for one of the smaller blocks.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/PA310026copy.jpg

[markydeedrop]

http://www.broadwaymalyan.com/bmalyan/dms/36CBA278D7D4B704BAD4E2020AB23AA2.jpg

The University of Salford, as part of their Peel Park Campus Regeneration, are developing a new Faculty of Law commencing September 2007.

The 2,500 sq.m. building will house a new law library, teaching facilities, offices and admin space, plus a separate lecture hall.

[Farsight]

There's maybe more in here marky. I got to do some work and can't check it out properly.

http://www.salford.ac.uk/about/future/

[rolybling]

Is this old news ?? You can slap me if it is

http://www.aedas.com/html/projects.cfm?projectssort=service&projectID=180&leftnav=projects&thissectorhighlight=1&leftnavhighlight=&pagetitle=Architecture

[Farsight]

I get The page cannot be displayed...

Edit: it's OK now.

[rolybling]

I dont it should work

[WeasteDevil]

Works fine for me. Haven't seen that before roly.

[rolybling]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/180_fullsize_1.jpg

Salford Academy, Manchester

New 750 place 11-16 Academy with a specialisation in Business and Enterprise, sponsored by United Learning Trust. Formerly, the Canon Williamson High School.

The site is located in an area of severe social and economic deprivation which is badly in need of regeneration. The area is also part of an Education Action Zone and the existing school provides a number of initiatives to connect with the local community.

The design approach for the new Academy was to create a landmark building that would provide a beacon for learning. The building also needed to reflect the Christian and pastoral nature of the sponsor’s approach to education, by valuing the individual while engendering a sense of warmth and security.
The design of the building needed to convey the message that the school is a beacon of learning, is open and accessible and represents an investment in the community.

The building also needed to offer staff and pupils a warm and safe environment, a non-institutional image and environment and a place where individuals can develop and reach their full potential.

The design concept, which has been conceived to inspire the occupants, provides a high level of flexibility together with cutting edge ICT requirements.

The layout of the building is designed around a central street with the large spaces, hall and sports hall forming a protected courtyard from the surrounding housing estate.

[Sir Miles Platting]

"The layout of the building is designed around a central street with the large spaces, hall and sports hall forming a protected courtyard from the surrounding housing estate."

The courtyard needs to be 'protected' from the surrounding council estate?

Oh right of course it does, I remember them estates now, I've been out of the UK for too long..... ;)

[Chogmook]

My old high school 'sob'!

[jrb]

Spectrum Cranes from the ring road!

http://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/aplaceintheworld/overseas-properties/p2342501.jpg http://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/aplaceintheworld/overseas-properties/p1342501.jpg

http://www.spectrummanchester.com/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture080.jpg

[jrb]

Planning application for Harry Ramensdens site!(tis in Manchester though)

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist.htm

[jrb]

F***ing toad face will reject this aswell! :bash:

Green light for Reds

A NEW stadium for Salford City Reds rugby league club is likely to be approved by councillors tomorrow.

But Environment Secretary John Prescott will have to give final approval to the £130m development. He will also decide if there should be a public inquiry.

Town hall officers have recommended approval. The proposed 80-acre site is a former flood plain of the River Irwell between the M60, Manchester Ship Canal, and the A57 Liverpool Road at Barton.

The 20,000-seat stadium would have eight levels and a roof covering. Attached to it would be a 208-bed four-star hotel, a casino, museum, bars, and restaurants.

Surrounding it would be 230,000 square feet of non-food retail space. Together with the hotel and casino, it would generate funds to build the stadium and secure its viability.

Coaches

There would be 1,000 car parking spaces and a bay for 40 coaches.

Council officers have suggested restricting the use of the stadium to sporting events. They also want the developer to agree that 80 per cent of all construction and operational jobs created by the stadium should go to local people.

The council has received 67 letters objecting to the plan and 82 in favour, as well as a 273-name petition opposing the development and a 37-name one supporting it.

Many objectors are concerned about the need for more shops. They believe they could undermine struggling stores in Eccles.

Other concerns are increase in traffic noise, loss of greenspace; devaluation of property, fears of rowdy drunks, and light pollution from floodlights.

Supporters say the stadium would enhance the image of the city, help attract Metrolink, create jobs, and provide improved facilities for Salford Reds.

[andysimo123]

Only a stupid person within the Govenment would reject it. One it boost sporting for the UK and two the Govenment would make more from taxes.

[jrb]

One to keep an eye on!

http://www.redcitydevelopments.com

[mattlister]

I hope Salford City Reds do get the go ahead for the new stadium because The Willows at the moment isn't the best of stadiums to visit and it's in a bad area.

[Sir Miles Platting]

A long time ago I went to the 'Willows' night club in Salford. I can remember being a great cabaret lounge with decent turns and an abundance of tasty looking totty. At the time I didn't realize it was the social-club for the Salford 'Egg-Chasers'....the geezers looked like a right load of no-neck rough cunts. I'm glad I didn't try and trap-off with one of their birds... :runaway:

[Sir Miles Platting]

I forgot to mention, will the new 'Willows' club have the same (older) no-neck rough cunts and the same totty (only with a lot of mileage on the clock)?
Rugby, what's the fucking point? All they do is grope each other and grab at their opponents bollocks.... ;) :runaway:

[jrb]

From this weeks EGI Manchester supplement!

http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/8079/salford12oc.jpg

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/901/salford213bq.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7981/salord33fy.jpg

[kids]

fuksas, hehe.

[Sir Miles Platting]

fuksas, hehe.
Well he is an Italian.....

[jrb]

One or two interesting liitle developments submitted!

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist.htm

[SleepyOne]

From Cityoffices:

Exchange Greengate plans
Exchange Greengate is a £50m mixed-use scheme in Salford, Manchester, being put forward by Ask Developments. The 278,706 sq m (3m sq ft) scheme, near Exchange Station, will include 37,160 sq m (400,000 sq ft) of offices space, residential apartments with retail and leisure uses. An outline planning application could be submitted in March 2006.

[caw123]

All that lot for £50 million? £500 million surely?

Here's Maros 13 storey 'The Bayley' resi block on Bailey Street.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1163TheBayley_pic9.jpg
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1163TheBayley_pic8.jpg

renderings
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1163TheBayley_pic3.jpg
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1163TheBayley_pic4.jpg

[kids]

yellow brick - my high school was made of them.

[9462]

mine - dark brown, 1950s, white wood windows with dark brown bricks, square, out of proportion.

Well it looks A LOT better on the pic but its truly awful inside and out, theyve hardly had anything updated since the 70s. It smells of puke.

http://www.harvick.co.uk/Unsworth%20Walkabout/images/Pic00200%20-%20Castlebrook%20High%20School.jpg

gota love that horid architecture

http://www.harvick.co.uk/Unsworth%20Walkabout/images/Pic00060%20-%20Unsworth%20Pole%20Shops.jpg

that building look nothing like the rendering. And what a crap design, well its only small so who cares. If it were in london it would be a differnt story...

[markydeedrop]

Castlebrook High School, Unsworth, Bury with the some of the shops at Unsworth. 9462, what Primary School did you got to?

[Legin]

I live just down the road from there.

[9462]

one round there

[jrb]

New Reds stadium's knock-on benefits

THE new Salford Reds' stadium could boost commercial property values in the Salford area by as much as 30 per cent.

Local developer MDA says the new 20,000-seat stadium will stimulate massive growth in the local property market.

Last week Salford city council approved the Reds' ambitious proposals for a £32m stadium, along with a 208-bed hotel and a massive 230,000-sq ft retail development.

Bars, restaurants, a museum, gym and swimming pool are also planned. The stadium will be developed on a 74-acre brown-field site near junction 11 of the M62.

Magnet

Mark Evans, managing director of MDA, says property prices in the area will jump: "New sporting stadia and leisure facilities in areas like Salford have a huge impact on residential and commercial property prices. Investment is attracted to the area and Salford will become a magnet for more commercial and residential property development," he said.

"As well as job creation, the value of property owned by people in Salford will rocket. There will be money to be made.

"This development is a huge chance for Salford to build on the massive regeneration of the last five years. This is great news for Salford and Greater Manchester. As the area becomes a magnet for business, it will become a magnet for developers and investors."

The stadium proposal still has hurdles to pass before it is built. The government office for the north west will soon decide whether the deputy prime minister should examine the plan in detail.

If the application is sent to the government for a final decision, it could mean a delay of many months - and a public inquiry.

Property values are already growing in Salford, thanks to a series of regeneration initiatives.

Business improvement grants to refurbish premises or purchase the latest equipment, have encouraged a dozen companies to set up, relocate or expand in the Chapel Street area. Regenerating Chapel Street and surrounding area is a key priority for Central Salford urban regeneration company for the city.

[SleepyOne]

That buff coloured brick looks terrible on that Bayley block. WHY do developers insist on using it? The red and white render as proposed looked much better. Shame.



**

Another image of the massive Spectrum scheme. (Phase I near the viaduct under construction).

http://www.weatherwise.co.uk/images/Dandara2.gif

Whilst OMI are supposed to be decent architects I have my doubts about this. They have probably been constrained by the Fielden Clegg designed Greengate masterplan. The blocks point in the direction of and look designed to draw people and activity into the wider Greengate area directly from Blackfriars road. It makes sense but Im not sure the development as a whole doesn't look a little disjointed. I like how they are driving a new road through the centre of their site and certainly the blocks seem to respect the major streetlines which is essential but overall I think they could have been designed to somehow fill out what is a massive site better such that it looks like three of four cohesive elements rather than twelve.

http://tinypic.com/i1gug1.jpg

Brochure here - http://www.************/spectrum_brochure.pdf

Sure there will be more images when the website launches.

[jrb]

New build estate feels Sharp end of report

SALFORD Council’s planning boss has agreed there’s been ‘a lot of bog standard rubbish’ built in the city after a government-backed watchdog slammed a Walkden housing estate.

The Commission for Architecture and the Built Environment (Cabe) conducted a nationwide study which rates the newly-built Brambles estate on Sharpe Street as ‘poor’ because it is ‘an off the shelf cul-de-sac development with no notable features’, and has poor provision for pedestrians, cyclists and parking.

Salford’s lead member for planning Councillor Derek Antrobus agreed with Cabe’s assessment saying the city had been too keen to give the go ahead to 'badly designed’ developments in the past, but he also insisted the council has learnt from its mistakes.

In its report examining developments for character, roads, parking, pedestrianisation, construction environment and community Cabe rated The Brambles as having only 38 per cent of the qualities an acceptable estate should have - one of the lowest ratings in the country.

Cabe were highly critical of the Bellway development built in 2002. The report said: "The Brambles is an ‘off the shelf’ cul-de-sac development. It feels like any other housing estate with no notable features to give it an identity. It’s difficult to navigate due to the 'sameness' of houses.

"The road dominates with no deliberate provision for pedestrians or cyclists and parking provision is generally poor. There has been little attention to detail either in houses or public spaces."

Cllr Antrobus supported the findings. He said: "We work with Cabe and held workshops with them after recognising the need to raise our game on design. I support Cabe and for a while there was a lot of bog standard rubbish built in Salford and we needed to learn from our mistakes.

"Things have changed in this city and in the past people didn’t want to invest in Salford so we were too eager to accept any developments, but that is no longer the case.

"We have been praised recently by an independent inspector after we beefed up our standards on design, so we are moving in the right direction."

In defence of their development a Bellway homes spokesman said: "Sharpe Street proved to be one of our most successful developments due to a shortage of quality three and four bedroom homes.

"It sold out in less than 12 months to local homebuyers, many of whom continue to live there very happily. At the time of our purchase, Bellway met all the planning criteria and highway issues of Salford City Council."

Meanwhile the Peel Hall Wimpey-built estate on Peel Lane, Little Hulton received an above average score of 54 per cent but was also described as ‘an off the shelf’ development.

[9462]

the people who work for salford council are a bunch thickos, and usually have no experience or know nothing about what they make decisions on.

[Farsight]

It's all too easy to knock something after the event. Planners and architects love doing it. You know, there will be something new next year, and a couple of years later somebody will be slagging that off too, all the while telling you "we've learned from past mistakes". Pah. And what's so wrong with an "off the shelf" development? You can't have total novelty on everything. Sigh. Sometimes I think planning is like little girls' fashion, and yesterdays clothes get a sneer.

Anybody got a picture of this Brambles?

[markydeedrop]

Take a look at this:

http://www.chapelstreet.org/gallery.asp

[jrb]

University's £60m future vision

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/163.$plit/C_17_Articles_189892_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg

FUTURISTIC: The interior.A NEW £60m university building will be at the heart of a cultural quarter being created in Salford.

The arts and media centre, due to open in September 2008 on Adelphi Street, will add to the massive regeneration of Chapel Street and The Crescent.

It will house a 300-seat theatre, sculpture park and TV studios, and will cater for 3,000 students and 150 staff.

The Salford University development has got the backing of one of Tony Blair's advisors, Charles Leadbeater.

Speaking at a conference on culture-led regeneration at the university, he said he hoped the new arts and media centre would help make Salford "the best place to grow up, grow old, live and work".

Prof Richard Towell, Dean of the Faculty of Arts, Media, and Social Sciences at Salford University, said: "The university is committed to the vision of a revived Salford and is showing its support for the wider social inclusion agenda."

The building, together with the Centenary Building, which won the Stirling Prize for Architecture in 1996, and Adelphi House, will form a new linked campus.

It will be built on wasteland next to Adelphi Street and Peru Street. Finance will come from existing university funds, a bank loan, and new investment. A dedicated fund raising manager is being appointed this month.

Chapel Street is already a magnet for media and creative industries with Salford City Council helping a dozen firms set up there this year. Manchester Midi, a music media training and production company, based in Bexley Square, off Chapel Street, relocated there from Ancoats, Manchester, several months ago.

A company spokesman said: "Our new location provides a wonderful working environment. We were beginning to be priced out of Manchester's northern quarter and noise and lack of daylight through renting out a basement was testing."

He added: "We used a council business grant to renovate the building and put in security features. We're now hoping to convert more of it into music studios we can rent out.

"The work that is being done by the council and its partners to encourage businesses like ours to relocate is brilliant. We feel that we're here right at the start of the Chapel Street renaissance."

Regenerating Chapel Street and the surrounding area is a key part of the newly formed Salford Urban Regeneration Company's vision to make central Salford an active, vibrant urban district. Pedestrian-friendly green boulevards, with cafes and bars are planned for Chapel Street, The Crescent and nearby roads.

Coun Derek Antrobus, the city's planning spokesman, said: "There's a real buzz around the Chapel Street quarter.

"It benefits from being right on the edge of Manchester City Centre. There is a unique feel to it and it brims with character. Its reputation can only continue to grow, the more like-minded media and creative businesses we can attract."




FUTURISTIC: The interior.

A NEW £60m university building will be at the heart of a cultural quarter being created in Salford.

The arts and media centre, due to open in September 2008 on Adelphi Street, will add to the massive regeneration of Chapel Street and The Crescent.

It will house a 300-seat theatre, sculpture park and TV studios, and will cater for 3,000 students and 150 staff.

The Salford University development has got the backing of one of Tony Blair's advisors, Charles Leadbeater.

Speaking at a conference on culture-led regeneration at the university, he said he hoped the new arts and media centre would help make Salford "the best place to grow up, grow old, live and work".

Prof Richard Towell, Dean of the Faculty of Arts, Media, and Social Sciences at Salford University, said: "The university is committed to the vision of a revived Salford and is showing its support for the wider social inclusion agenda."

The building, together with the Centenary Building, which won the Stirling Prize for Architecture in 1996, and Adelphi House, will form a new linked campus.

It will be built on wasteland next to Adelphi Street and Peru Street. Finance will come from existing university funds, a bank loan, and new investment. A dedicated fund raising manager is being appointed this month.

Chapel Street is already a magnet for media and creative industries with Salford City Council helping a dozen firms set up there this year. Manchester Midi, a music media training and production company, based in Bexley Square, off Chapel Street, relocated there from Ancoats, Manchester, several months ago.

A company spokesman said: "Our new location provides a wonderful working environment. We were beginning to be priced out of Manchester's northern quarter and noise and lack of daylight through renting out a basement was testing."

He added: "We used a council business grant to renovate the building and put in security features. We're now hoping to convert more of it into music studios we can rent out.

"The work that is being done by the council and its partners to encourage businesses like ours to relocate is brilliant. We feel that we're here right at the start of the Chapel Street renaissance."

Regenerating Chapel Street and the surrounding area is a key part of the newly formed Salford Urban Regeneration Company's vision to make central Salford an active, vibrant urban district. Pedestrian-friendly green boulevards, with cafes and bars are planned for Chapel Street, The Crescent and nearby roads.

Coun Derek Antrobus, the city's planning spokesman, said: "There's a real buzz around the Chapel Street quarter.

"It benefits from being right on the edge of Manchester City Centre. There is a unique feel to it and it brims with character. Its reputation can only continue to grow, the more like-minded media and creative businesses we can attract."

[jrb]

From this weeks planning apps.

Reference: 05/51827/FUL
Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: Chapel Investment Holdings Ltd
Ward: Irwell Riverside
Grid Reference: 382571 398632
Case Officer: Tim Hartley
Telephone: 0161 793 3769
Location: Land Behind Salford Royal Hospital Bounded By Adelphi Street, Upper Cleminson And Wilton Place Salford 3
Proposal: Erection of an eight storey building comprising 160 apartments with 929 sq.m commercial floor space (A1,A2,A3,B1 and D1) at ground floor together with associated car parking and alteration to existing vehicular access

[jrb]

Couple of interesting ones. Sourced from Building Magazine.


8 Storey office block.. http://www2.salford.gov.uk/docs/49486.pdf

Ian Simpson again http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planninglist/planninglist-search.htm?col1=planning&ref=49561

[highriser]

Abito, is now starting to rise

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/december13th022.jpg

[Marksy_1]

A new apartment block has been started off Sillavan Way (off Chapel St). It going to be 11 stories of apartments and retail. They started the piling yesterday!

Link for more info

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/planning/planning-press-notices/ppn-sillvan-way-industrial-estate.htm

[Legin]

It's this Nikal delevolpment - By the way just opposite this, and just adjacent to Salford Central Station- along Gore St -the area has been enclosed with hoardings . LANCE is the only logo adorned on it, I'm sure some SSC contributor gave us some snippet of info on this scheme a while back - Potatoman rings a bell - but I coud be wrong.


[IMGhttp://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/C_17_Articles_172695_BodyWeb_Detail.jpg[/IMG]

[Legin]

Sorry having problems with the old PC.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/C_17_Articles_172695_BodyWeb_Detail.jpg

[Marksy_1]

cheers for putting the picture on Legin, im new to this site and haven't discovered how to put images on yet!

[Legin]

Set up an image account on the web with photobucket - it's free. Upload your images onto it and then copy the address in the 3rd line under the image and paste it into your Skyscrapercity message.

[caw123]

New steel frame going up off Chapel St
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/PC120022copy.jpg

Site of aforementioned 11 storey
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/PC120023copy.jpg

Abito from Urbis, notice they are lifting a 'pod' apartment into place.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/PC130053copy.jpg

Two views of Spectrum
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2561BlackfriarsTower1_pic5.jpg
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2561BlackfriarsTower1_pic6.jpg

[Mez]

Thanks again caw. Thank god density is on the increase.

[Northbeach]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/PC120023copy.jpg

Reminds me a little of an area in Berlin (or spots in other euro cities as it happens).
It's the bridge that does it. The only difference being the fact that this area is pretty lifeless at the mo.
Inject thee with people and infrastructure.

Top shots Caw - what's the 'chuchie' building on the first pic?

[rolybling]

cracking pics Caw, this area will be bustling in a few years and feel just like any other part of town me thinks!

[Marksy_1]

Cheer for the pics Caw.....
This area is definitely on the up, who remembers this area 5 years ago before city point and Model lodging house were built!?
Its fast becoming an extension of the city centre although still in Salford, is an important area of central manchester, and personally im glad to see the central boundaries extended into areas such as Salford. I hope the Greengate area really takes off and the new towers proposed in the area get built because this area will become a great place. :)

[Accura4Matalan]

I hope the old cinema is preserved in all the redevelopment. Its a little gem that thing.

[TheGrand]

I hope the old cinema is preserved in all the redevelopment. Its a little gem that thing.

Good shout

[highriser]

The Abito site
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/27dec003.jpg
The Spectrum site
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/27dec005.jpg
The back of the Quebec building
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/27dec006.jpg
The site for the Sillivan Way apartments on Chapel St
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/27dec008.jpg

[cottonopolis]

thanks for all the pics highriser! Sillivan Way apartments?? Can someone refresh my memory?

[highriser]

Cottonopolis,,there's a small pic of it further down the page by Legin,,, there would have been more pics but my batteries went flat :( so i hit the sales and spent a bloody fortune.

[cottonopolis]

cheers highriser!

[Legin]

Ta for the pics Highriser. I'd forgotten about ABITO. Hope it turns out looking as good as this render on their website.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/abito.jpg

[vertigosufferer]

Nice updates, highriser. Not seen this one before.

[jrb]

A Tribune to a changing city

A INTERNATIONAL newspaper has told London to move over to make way for Salford as one of the country’s most revamped cities.

The International Herald Tribune, based in Neuilly, in the leafy corners of France, may be a far cry from urban Salford – but the newspaper has devoted a full page spread to singing the praises of a Salford on the up.

And the publicity has ensured that the city known to many as the other side of Manchester has developed a global identity of its own.

The publication is read throughout the world and is even available for free on flights around the world – so the potential for international recognition is huge.

Journalist Katherine Tanko, who wrote the article, said: "Move over Buckingham Palace and the Tower of London" to make way for recently revamped cities including Salford.

The article discussing Salford’s industrial past and arts heritage, courtesy of LS Lowry, notes the city council’s attempts to bring a new vibe to the area on a world stage.

It lists places to go, including the Crescent Pub on Salford Crescent – "the local watering hole of Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx," and Chapel Street and Worsley as being melting pots of historical endeavour.

The journalist describes the city as: "a source of pride – and a lure for tourists" while highlighting its modern attractions.

So don’t be surprised if you are walking down the street in New York talking about a night out on Chapel Street and find the locals know just where you are from.

John Merry, leader of Salford City Council, said: "The fact that Salford is reaching an international audience is proof our marketing strategy is working.

"We are achieving our goal of not only putting Salford on the map but getting the message across that it has so much to offer.

"Salford is a modern and forward-looking city, but its past has an important role to play in its future."

[jrb]

No-show makes real Splash with planners

PLANNERS have criticised the design company behind the Salford beach development after their no-show at a committee meeting.

Urban Splash are the driving force behind the idea to give Salford it’s own ‘beach’ but angered councillors after failing to attend a meeting to answer their questions about the scheme.

Urban Splash did not send a representative even though they were trying to get three outline planning applications accepted for a visionary new landscape on the banks of the River Irwell.

The right to transform the four-acre development in the Greengate area was fiercely contested last year after Urban Splash invited international design firms to come up with suitable plans.

After 76 entries from 19 different countries, architects Weston Williamson submitted the winning entry, including the idea that the banks of the Irwell should be transformed into a beach area.

In order to ensure flexibility at later stages of the planning process, Urban Splash entered three outline plans that Weston Williamson had devised.

The first was for 469 flats, a 171 bed hotel and 3,407 sqm of commercial space, the second 540 flats and 4,209 sqm of commercial space and a third application for 555 flats and 2,437 sqm of retail space.

Planners passed all three plans but said that Urban Splash should have showed up to answer councillors’ questions due to the scheme’s role in the continued regeneration of the city.

Lead member for planning Derek Antrobus, said: "I think because it was an uncontroversial application and because Urban Splash have had so many dealings with the council, perhaps they thought everybody was more aware of the general background to the application.

"It is a mistake, and firms and developers should send a representative along to answer any questions posed by the panel. It’s a matter of courtesy really and in the future lessons will have to be learned."

Cllr Karen Garrido, added: "I thought it was disrespectful that nobody showed up.

"They could have heard what we were saying and answered our queries because this is a very large development on a prime site for us."

Urban Splash were pleased the plans were approved and denied they had snubbed the panel.

Development manager Patrick Sheridan, said: "It’s fantastic news that we have got outline planning permission because this is massively important site for Salford. It’s not very often that we attend a planning committee because we try and do all the hard work prior to that. We certainly don’t want to appear uninterested by what they have to say."

A council spokesperson confirmed a letter would be sent to Urban Splash expressing the planning committee’s disappointment regarding their no-show.

[Accura4Matalan]

Very arrogant of Urban Splash, although I hope it doesn't affect the scheme.

[jrb]

A little late.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/SALFORD1234.jpg

[jrb]

The Bayley!

Info and renders of this not very exciting development close to the CJC!

http://www.manpdl.co.uk/index4.htm

[WeasteDevil]

The Bayley!

Info and renders of this not very exciting development close to the CJC!

http://www.manpdl.co.uk/index4.htm

No it isn't, but why do you have to bring that up? The fact that it's not exciting? You cannot have signature architecture (or great big towers) all of the time, it is simply not financially viable. Look at New York, it's 10% great, 10% ok, 40% average, 10% poor, and 30% fucking awful!

Sorry mate, I'm not having a go, but it seems to me to be a disease in here that people want to have a go at average developments. Well, ok, they might be average, but they do a lot to reinvigorate a particular area, and give impetus for further and more quality developments to come along and even happen.

They might not be at the cutting edge of architecture, but that really isn't the point is it?

[Sir Miles Platting]

^ we're getting to be a right spoilt load of fussy gets...

[jrb]

No it isn't, but why do you have to bring that up? The fact that it's not exciting? You cannot have signature architecture (or great big towers) all of the time, it is simply not financially viable. Look at New York, it's 10% great, 10% ok, 40% average, 10% poor, and 30% fucking awful!

Sorry mate, I'm not having a go, but it seems to me to be a disease in here that people want to have a go at average developments. Well, ok, they might be average, but they do a lot to reinvigorate a particular area, and give impetus for further and more quality developments to come along and even happen.

They might not be at the cutting edge of architecture, but that really isn't the point is it?

Spot on WeasteDevil!

Your right! :)

[Latic]

^ we're getting to be a right spoilt load of fussy gets...

It just shows how far things have come that we have become spoilt and now expect landmark buildings on every corner. A few years ago we may have been grateful for anything was wasn't concrete.

[jrb]

It just shows how far things have come that we have become spoilt and now expect landmark buildings on every corner. A few years ago we may have been grateful for anything was wasn't concrete.

Is that not a good thing?

The fact that we still want our Councils, planners and architects to maintain the high standards they have already set is acceptable. I would rather see the current standards maintained, instead of poor quality buildings/designs being given planning permisson

A prime example of this new 'standard' is Canopus. We all agreed it was a poor design. Thankfully it was rejected by Salford Council!

[Jerv]

........

[Jerv]

A prime example of this new 'standard' is Canopus. We all agreed it was a poor design. Thankfully it was rejected by Salford Council!

I didn't agree. It was much better than what looks likely to be built there.

[jrb]

I didn't agree. It was much better than what looks likely to be built there.

I would'nt count on it Jerv!

I think we're in for a surprise!

With the help of Salford Council and Cabe, BSC and their architects should deliver a decent proposal?

[Latic]

Is that not a good thing?

The fact that we still want our Councils, planners and architects to maintain the high standards they have already set is acceptable. I would rather see the current standards maintained, instead of poor quality buildings/designs being given planning permisson

A prime example of this new 'standard' is Canopus. We all agreed it was a poor design. Thankfully it was rejected by Salford Council!

Absolutley it is a good thing - it's no longer good enough just to throw something up and hope for the best. We expect the best!

[highriser]

Spectrum
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0577.jpg
Abito , with Tempus behind it
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0576.jpg

[Farsight]

I don't want exciting or signature architecture, Weasty. Or wall to wall towers. But what I would like to see is beautiful buildings fit for the 21st Century and a future that says wow. Not mundane stuff that looks like it's come from Hulme 1962.

[jrb]

Chapel Walks/Chapel Street arches being advetised in todays edition of Commercial Property. 8 units available.

http://www.spacia.co.uk/manage/uploads/chap3.jpg

CHAPEL STREET - SALFORD
Property suitable for office, retail and lesuire uses with:
Full height glass frontages, 3 phase electricity, W.C, Mezzanine levels, On site visitor parking.

Size: 245.9 sq m (2647 sq ft) - 445.3 sq m (4793 sq ft)
Rent: Upon Application
Location: England, Greater Manchester.
Type: Retail, Leisure, Office

Availability: For immediate availability contact 0800 830840.

[jrb]

Chapel Walks/Chapel Street arches being advetised in todays edition of Commercial Property.

http://www.spacia.co.uk/manage/uploads/chap3.jpg

CHAPEL STREET - SALFORD
Property suitable for office, retail and lesuire uses with:
Full height glass frontages, 3 phase electricity, W.C, Mezzanine levels, On site visitor parking.

Size: 245.9 sq m (2647 sq ft) - 445.3 sq m (4793 sq ft)
Rent: Upon Application
Location: England, Greater Manchester.
Type: Retail, Leisure, Office

Availability: For immediate availability contact 0800 830840.

[kids]

A very very nice looking development has been submitted on chapel st consisting of 550 dwellings in a 20 storey tower and town houses - there's a public sqaure too.

more info coming soon.

[kids]

The development is just behind that that new transprt house building on the cresent, it will incoporate that pub and the rest of the old buildings they will knock down that burtn out office building.

here we go

Location: Land Bounded By The Crescent, Hulme Street And Gaythorn Street Salford
Proposal: Outline application for the erection of a complex of building ranging in height between two and 20 storeys providing 550 dwellings (apartments and townhouses) a new public square, 2322 sq.m of A1,A2,A3,A4,A5,B1,C1,C2,C3,D1 floorspace and 350 car parking spaces

pics

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel4.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel6.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel5.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel1.jpg

[rolybling]

looks interesting, im trying to place it though, how far down the cresent is it?

[kids]

looks interesting, im trying to place it though, how far down the cresent is it?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel2.jpg

The small building on the far left is that apartment block that has recently been built on the corner of the crescent and that other road (Gaythorn Street?)

this one.

http://www.irwellvalleyha.co.uk/Images/Development/TGWU001.JPG

[SleepyOne]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/richardjamesbrowning/chapel1.jpg
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THE CRESCENT, SALFORD


^^ Looks good. Anyone notice the family resemblence here though? Architects are OMI who are also designing Dandara's Spectrum development......
http://www.weatherwise.co.uk/images/Dandara2.gif
DANDARA'S SPECTRUM, BLACKFRIAR'S ROAD, SALFORD (u/c)


I prefer the look of this one (Crescent). The proportion, variety and arrangement of the different blocks looks a lot more satisfying than at Spectrum.

[caw123]

Yeah I thought the same immediately. Same little window box on the top floor, same balcony design.

[highriser]

It looks ok to me, but i can never judge things on these crappy black and white render's.
Bring's more bulk to that side of the city though :)

[kids]

I'm really happy about this purely because of the re-generation of the crescent and chapel st. Also the fact that highrise, and development on the whole is exanding out towards the uni. I really want chapel st to become to next oxford road. I want it to have a city centre feel to it like oxford road. And we're well on the way.

If built i'm sure these towers would be further out than any other in the city, well definately on the salford side.

[Marksy_1]

This is good news for Salford, They just need to demolish them 2 tower block eyesores at islington, between the proposal and the Centre of Town and the area will really be on the up!! :)

[TheGrand]

I'm really happy about this purely because of the re-generation of the crescent and chapel st. Also the fact that highrise, and development on the whole is exanding out towards the uni. I really want chapel st to become to next oxford road. I want it to have a city centre feel to it like oxford road. And we're well on the way.

If built i'm sure these towers would be further out than any other in the city, well definately on the salford side.

I feel the same

BUT

To do that, Salford Uni need to close Castle Irwell and move the students up there

[TheGrand]

This is good news for Salford, They just need to demolish them 2 tower block eyesores at islington, between the proposal and the Centre of Town and the area will really be on the up!! :)


Spot on, they need to go and that whole estate. The land can go one of two ways, a new community based stadium (home of FC United) :cheers: , or Salford's New Town Hall.

Whatever

It needs something mint that will bring investment into the area, not a council estate thats a blight on what essentially is Salford City Centre

[Accura4Matalan]

Salford Crescent is already impressive when driving into the city centre. Just when you get past the uni, you are suddenly hit by cranes and loads of highrises. With this lot, its going to be even better.

[kids]

We need to get rid of those horrid mines (are they mines? what are they?) behind the crecent.

Ah, it's lovely seeing town slowly engul central salford - fusion & middlewood locks, this, the adelphi developments etc.

[kids]

The towers are getting closer to meeeee!

[Marksy_1]

Spot on, they need to go and that whole estate. The land can go one of two ways, a new community based stadium (home of FC United) :cheers: , or Salford's New Town Hall.

Whatever

It needs something mint that will bring investment into the area, not a council estate thats a blight on what essentially is Salford City Centre

I reckon its a good idea for FC to have their ground there, but i can't see Salford Town Hall moving out of Swinton though, not now all the city depts are there, and it is the centre of the administrative area of the City of Salford.

[jrb]

Reference: 06/51996/FUL
Decision Level: COMM
Applicant name: University Of Salford
Ward: Irwell Riverside
Grid Reference: 381891 399153
Case Officer: Catherine Larmouth
Telephone: 0161 779 4843
Location: Site Of Venebles Building And Adjacent Land Salford University Crescent Salford
Proposal: Demolition of existing building and erection of three storey building to provide new School of Law

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/wokgp.jpg

[SleepyOne]

News on the Central Salford URC

Central Salford URC appoints new Chief Executive

18/01/2006

Following an extensive search, the Central Salford Urban Regeneration Company (URC) - the body responsible for one of the biggest regeneration programmes in the UK - has appointed its new Chief Executive, Chris Farrow, who will take up this senior position on 27th February 2006. Chris Farrow has been described as one of the most experienced regeneration experts in the country. Qualified as a planner, his regeneration portfolio includes Director of Operations at London Docklands Development Corporation, where he helped to turn a once neglected docklands into a world banking centre with its own airport and light railway, and Chief Executive at Merseyside Development Corporation, responsible for the internationally acclaimed Albert Dock complex which transformed Liverpool's waterfront and created a major tourism industry. Most recently, he has been Executive Director North Wales of the Welsh Development Agency - part of the Welsh Assembly Government - where he led the team that doubled investment in the region transforming the local economy and job security.

Central Salford URC, established by Salford City Council, the Northwest Regional Development Agency (NWDA) and the national regeneration agency English Partnerships, is responsible for transforming an area, which was the old city of Salford, and Chris Farrow's appointment comes at a critical time when its focus now moves to action on the ground. The URC has already commissioned an ambitious vision and regeneration framework to turn what was the world's first industrial city into the most beautiful part of Greater Manchester. The Vision has been enthusiastically received following widespread consultation led by local community organisations.

Chris Farrow describes Salford as a distinguished and dignified city. The URC's vision for the city, he says, would add real and tangible benefits for the area and further afield, making it both a desirable and inspirational place to live, work and invest.

'There are established environments and historic characters in Salford that show, under the direction of Central Salford, its partners and the community, this city has a thriving and healthy future ahead,' said Chris Farrow.

He added: 'My appointment fills me with pride and excitement. Together, we can make a positive change to Central Salford. It will be a sharp learning curve at first. I want to listen and learn from everyone who cares for the city and its communities.'

Felicity Goodey, Chair of Central Salford URC, said: 'Hidden under the dereliction and the poverty left at the end of the industrial revolution are once beautiful rivers and waterways, green spaces and fine historic buildings. The new Vision will unlock all that potential. Add pedestrian friendly streets, high quality new architecture, first class educational and housing opportunities and Central Salford is set to become one of the most desirable locations in the country. Chris Farrow is just the man to help unlock Central Salford's potential.

She added: 'We have always said that, for Central Salford, only the best will do. We are delighted to welcome Chris onto the team. I can think of few people better qualified for this role. Chris has not only helped secure billions of pounds of investment for his projects in the past, he is passionate about making sure local people benefit from regeneration and play an active role in making it happen.'

John Merry, leader of Salford City Council, said: 'This is fantastic news for the URC and a great boost for the city. Chris comes with excellence credentials and a wealth of experience that can only reap benefits for Salford's economy and communities.'

English Partnerships and the Northwest Regional Development Agency, who are partners and supporters to Central Salford URC, collectively welcome the appointment of Farrow as CE to Central Salford URC.

Steven Broomhead, Chief Executive of the NWDA, said: 'I am delighted to welcome the appointment of Chris Farrow as Chief Executive of the Central Salford URC. The NWDA is committed to the economic and social regeneration of Central Salford and I am pleased that such an experienced Chief Executive is now in place to guide the area's transformation.'

Paul Spooner, Regional Director of English Partnerships, said: 'I welcome Chris Farrow's appointment, which will be crucial in terms of overseeing the delivery of major investment projects in Central Salford.'

[rolybling]

Nice one Sleepyone, he sounds like the man for the job now lets see some action on the ground

[jrb]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/wokgp.jpg

Colour render in Construction News.(WHS) Looks very nice.

[markydeedrop]

Check out http://www.pinetreedevelopments.co.uk they've got a new development going up near Trinity Way in Salford.

[dj]

Check out http://www.pinetreedevelopments.co.uk they've got a new development going up near Trinity Way in Salford.

Not that new, here's a couple of pics from 22nd June last year

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man088.jpg

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man089.jpg

[Marksy_1]

Check out this website, http://www.dylanharvey.com/
Quite a few developments in the Salford/Mancchester Centre area.

[highriser]

Cheers for that Marsy,, this Dylan Harvey,,are doing that development over the road from Skyline Central,next to the Marble Arch pub, its looks very swish, and the also doing that Sillivan Way apartments on Chapel St.
Looks like they have quite a bit planned for around the Green Quarter.

[rolybling]

don't you just hate Flash Websites...interesting stuff though..cheers Marksy

[Marksy_1]

don't you just hate Flash Websites...interesting stuff though..cheers Marksy

yes they are a pain, especially for those still on 56K modems!, but that site definately shows some interesting projects.

[Marksy_1]

Cheers for that Marsy,, this Dylan Harvey,,are doing that development over the road from Skyline Central,next to the Marble Arch pub, its looks very swish, and the also doing that Sillivan Way apartments on Chapel St.
Looks like they have quite a bit planned for around the Green Quarter.

No problem, yes the Sillivan way apartments site info board is where i got the website from, its just out the back of my girlfriends apartment.

[man med]

spectrum stuff..

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?agentid=6088&opt=prop&pid=342501

http://www.findaproperty.com/aplaceintheworld/overseas-properties/p2342501.jpg

http://www.findaproperty.com/aplaceintheworld/overseas-properties/p1342501.jpg

[caw123]

The old and the new on Ordsall Lane
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1180024copy.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1180025copy.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1180029copy.jpg

[Irish Blood English Heart]

Anyone got any pics of the square near Salford Lads Club in Ordsall, it looks so grand (although boarded up) on that Smiths video where Moz cycles around Salford. And Ive always been curious what it looks like 20 years later.

[kids]

There's a birds eye view drawing of the future of central salford in todays Home section of the MEN, it's very interesting and it looks very very nice. All sorts of riverside and quayside developments - Including middlewood locks, the crescent etc. Lots and lots of new office/residential quarters litrally expanding the city centre by a county mile.

However, there are no towers at middlewood locks, not that i remeber anyway (Although i don't know how accurate and up to date the drawing is)

Interestingly enough, chapel wharf is described as; 'due to be approved in march'
We'll see ey ;)

[kids]

IBEH has just posted the article which came with the drawing

TRANSFORMED: Railway arches on Chapel Street
TRANSFORMED: Railway arches on Chapel Street
IN the past Salford has suffered in the shadow of its successful big city neighbour, but after making the most of Manchester's proximity it is now ambitious to succeed on its own.

When Manchester refused to contemplate allowing one-room `crash pads' in its city core, Salford embraced the idea and the cubes of Abito are taking shape at Greengate with more planned at Salford Quays.

When Manchester put forward one site for the location of the BBC's new northern headquarters, Salford came up with two and now have their hopes pinned on the Quays.

This is where Salford's regeneration began, then faltered, more than a decade ago, but it is back on track with Peel Holdings backing the ambitious BBC bid and more residential units planned among the iconic buildings that have flourished here, such as the Lowry Theatre, NV Buildings and Jones Homes twin towers of Imperial and Soverign Point. But Salford has obviously learned not only from its own past but from Manchester's success and has begun to look at integrating pockets of regeneration to benefit the borough as a whole.

Malcolm Sykes, director of development services with Salford council, said: "We now have a working masterplan that includes every area of the city. It is vitally important that we have a vision that everyone is working to and that we carry that through and set high standards."

The grand plan is that the Quays will soon link to a revived Ordsall where new housing and new central routes, together with a new school and revamped park, will make it a key residential area.

Successful

Bellway and LPC already have successful developments on Ordsall Lane and the likelihood is that more new homes will be built along this main route between Manchester and the Quays and potential new pedestrian links to the Metrolink stations.

Bellway says its Lamba Court Development has been its most successful ever with buyers keen to exploit the growth potential of the area. They are confident that the three bedroom duplexes in the next phase will also be a success.

Sweeping across Regent Road you come to Middlewood Locks, a vast site where George Wimpey are building apartment blocks at one end. The development will be extended towards Manchester with new public squares and the re-opening of a section of the Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal.

Mr Sykes said: "Salford is blessed with miles of waterfront and lots of green space - we have just not exploited it yet."

The biggest potential for waterfront homes is the oval of land looped by the river next to the university campus. Already developers are queuing up to build on Adelphi Street which will undergo a transformation if all schemes go ahead.

Further down the Crescent, the plan is to move the magistrates' court from Bexley Square to a purpose-built building in Eccles and free up this cluster of historic Grade II listed buildings.

Chapel Street has been transformed in the last five years with the arrival of the Lowry Hotel on the Salford side of the river, Countryside's prestigious Edge development and more schemes are on the way.

Disused decaying railway arches have been transformed into modern and attractive workspaces.

Dandara is one of the biggest players with its Spectrum scheme already underway and plans for almost 1,000 apartments at Chapel Wharf, in front of the Lowry Hotel, due to get approval in March.

And despite the vast numbers of new units going up, the company has no plans to slow down its build. Dandara MD Mike Neilson said: "This area benefits from its geography and there is no doubt that both developers and Salford city council have exploited its proximity to Manchester city centre. You are closer to the central core here than you are at, say, Castlefield.

"And although there is a lot going up in this area, we will not be slowing our plans. If we get approval at Chapel Wharf we would look to start work on building the tower and one of the linear blocks later this year."

And he said the blurring boundaries between the citiesmeant that developers now considered Manchester city centre to be bounded by the inner ring road and not the river.

Exceptional

He said: "Manchester is exceptional in how they deal with large scale planning issues and (chief executive) Sir Howard Bernstein has always been well ahead on any forward planning.

"But Salford is trying to pick up on that and work in a co-ordinated way to create a balance between housing and employment and retail."

As the tower cranes move in and steel frames start sprouting, the body charged with trying to co-ordinate it all is the Urban Regeneration Company, Central Salford, headed by Felicity Goody. A crucial part of its job will be to exploit the full potential of the Greengate area which is an important boundary between the two cities and where a masterplan drawn up by ASK Developments shows skyline walkways, new squares and ambitious towers.

There are no shortage of takers for the plots of land and old buildings around here and the success will be gauged on how they are managed and how much it adds to the city as a whole.

And Salford has drawn up its own design standards, which all developers will have to meet, in an effort to avoid mundane identikit developments.

Besides the city edge developments, there are the ambitious schemes for other parts of Salford, such as the new Salford Reds stadium at Barton, Peel's plans for Port Salford, which would see container traffic coming along the Ship Canal and right into the heart of the city, the improvements to Salford Central Station and major investment in the run-down Pendleton shopping district which could see one of the biggest new Tescos in the region.

Mr Sykes said: "The work we have been doing over the last couple of years, putting together planning frameworks and talking to key partners, is now beginning to become a reality and people can see that Salford is delivering."

[Farsight]

Thanks for that Kids.

Maybe there was a veiled criticism there from Dandara MD Mike Neilson, because they've been held up by Salford City Council on their 37 to 40 storey Chapel Wharf tower next to the Lowry Hotel. The put in an outline application a year ago, and a detailed application 8 months ago. jrb said he would ring the case officer and ask about it.

[kids]

Scan on its way.

[kids]

ere y'are

http://i1.tinypic.com/mkardj.jpg

Sorry if the file's huge.

[kids]

/\ is that a new bride outside the edge?

i really like the look off the pblic spaces in this, loads of new areas to explore. lovely.

That huge bridge from cathedral gardens to greengate looks awesome too.

[Accura4Matalan]

Looks nice. If only the Irwell were that blue :(

[jrb]

One of the losing entrie's in the Springfiled Lane competition.

http://roel.meurders.nl/downloads/salfordcomp.posters.lowres.pdf

[9462]

This is not really the Salford most people know of.

[Marksy_1]

This is not really the Salford most people know of.

How do you mean? This is what most people in Salford view as the historic core of the old City, along the Crescent and around the Cathedral, Courts etc

[Priscilla QOTD]

How do you mean? This is what most people in Salford view as the historic core of the old City, along the Crescent and around the Cathedral, Courts etc


Precisely.

It really gets on my wick how so many people associate nothing but Pendleton precinct or the Ordsall estate with Salford. It's why it has such an undeservedly bad reputation.

OK, you can't deny that Central Salford has it's problems, but personally, I'd sooner live there than most of the other inner city areas. I mean, compare places like Ardwick, Beswick, Collyhurst, Harpurhey, Miles Platting, Longsight etc and I think Salford comes out favourably.

You still could't pay me to live in Hulme, for all the money that's been wasted on supposed regeneration, but somewhere like the Chapel street/Crescent corridor, I could see myself living quite comfortably.

[Northbeach]

Spectrum PDF with slighter clearer/larger images (of course there's every chance they're already poking around this thread somewhere):

http://www.************/spectrum_brochure.pdf

[jrb]

Ask's Urmston proposal submitted to Salford City Council.

Reference: 06/52093/ART10
Decision Level: DEL
Applicant name: Ask Property Developments Limited
Ward:
Grid Reference: 375254 398256
Case Officer: Nancy Thynne
Telephone: 0161 779 4846

Location: Land Bounded By Park Road/Flixton Road/Crofts Bank Road And Sumner Avenue, Urmston (Urmston Town Centre)
Proposal: Article 10 consultation by Trafford MBC for outline planning permission with consent sought for details of siting., design (massing), access with all other matters reserved. Demolition of existing buildings and comprehensive redevelopment comprising 13,426 sq.m (gross internal) retail floorspace (Use classes A1,A2,A3), library, Conservative club, 141 residential units, new public square, landscaping, car parking, servicing and associated works

[The Longford]

Why did an app. in Trafford get submitted to Salford?

[jrb]

Why did an app. in Trafford get submitted to Salford?

It's because the scheme/proposal is close to Salford.

[jrb]

I do have a conscience, but sometimes you have to go with your gut instinct.

Deep down you know your never going to see or hear from that person again, so you have to make a choice, even though that choice could be the wrong one.

I was recently told another tower for Salford is currently being costed.

I was given no further information than that.

[kebabmonster]

Precisely.

It really gets on my wick how so many people associate nothing but Pendleton precinct or the Ordsall estate with Salford. It's why it has such an undeservedly bad reputation.

OK, you can't deny that Central Salford has it's problems, but personally, I'd sooner live there than most of the other inner city areas. I mean, compare places like Ardwick, Beswick, Collyhurst, Harpurhey, Miles Platting, Longsight etc and I think Salford comes out favourably.

You still could't pay me to live in Hulme, for all the money that's been wasted on supposed regeneration, but somewhere like the Chapel street/Crescent corridor, I could see myself living quite comfortably.

You've just earnt yourself a beer in Napoleans.

Though I would rather not tar Ardwick et al with the same brush, there are mostly decent folk living round there, I wouldn't say that Salford is any worse than Manchester. It just seems that most people expect Salford to have a bite as big as the not-from-Salford media's portrayed bark.

[jrb]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0588.jpg

[TheGrand]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0588.jpg


The station for Spinningfields, maybe a name change too for the new image

Salford Spinningfields? Always thought Salford Central was a bit bland.

[highriser]

Abito coming along nicely :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/abito.jpg

[rolybling]

The station for Spinningfields, maybe a name change too for the new image

Salford Spinningfields? Always thought Salford Central was a bit bland.

Whats wrong with Salford Central? its Salford and its central, works for me!

[Priscilla QOTD]

You've just earnt yourself a beer in Napoleans.

Though I would rather not tar Ardwick et al with the same brush, there are mostly decent folk living round there, I wouldn't say that Salford is any worse than Manchester. It just seems that most people expect Salford to have a bite as big as the not-from-Salford media's portrayed bark.

Cheers love! :cheers:

Though I've got to say I've not been in Napoleons for a long time! Is it still owned by one of the guys that own Cruz? Melvin I think(?).When my boyfriend (at the time) worked in Cruz, I used to go over to Napoleons with all the Cruz staff after hours for lock-ins!

[Legin]

Abito coming along nicely :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/abito.jpg

Nice sunny pic Highriser - If you didn't know it could be a development on the Costa Del Sol.

[dgnr8]

heh, my dad's bestman was one of the fellas who own Cruz.

[jrb]

Not far to go then for Salfords finest.

£20m courthouse for Eccles

SALFORD'S new £20m magistrates' court is to be built in Eccles.

The council's ruling Labour cabinet has chosen a site in the town centre in preference to the former Salford police headquarters on The Crescent.

They see it as a chance to revitalise the town, blighted by a run-down shopping mall, despite having the Metrolink and a new bus station.

Last year, a bid to have the courts built in Swinton was thrown out after residents protested that they would cause traffic chaos.

The 12-court justice centre, housing both magistrates and the county courts, will now be built on a car park next to John William Street, in Eccles. A £2.6m multi-storey car park will be built on part of the site to compensate for the loss of the 173-space car park and to provide extra parking for the court.

A report to the cabinet says the development will not lead to any loss of trade in the town. It is not near homes and could trigger new investment in the shopping mall by its London-based owners.

The Crescent site will be a stand-by second choice, as Salford Urban Regeneration Company, which plans to turn The Crescent into a green boulevard, does not believe a court would fit in with its plans.

Deputy council leader David Lancaster, an Eccles councillor, said: "The advantage of Eccles is that the council owns the site and it is a better site geographically than The Crescent. It is also better served by public transport.

"The town centre needs a boost and this will help. We have already moved several hundred town hall staff from the planning department to an office block in Eccles. This will bring more people into the town to help lift the economy."

The ageing Salford magistrates' court in Bexley Square, used by Coronation Street for several scenes including the jailing of Les Battersby, was considered for refurbishment. But that was ruled out because of the cost.

Until the mid-1990s, Eccles had its own magistrates' court in the old town hall. Salford now faces a race against time to get planning permission. A joint bid by Salford and Bolton for new courts to be built under Private Finance Initiative cash is one of only four court schemes being considered by the government.

A new site for courts in Bolton, at the former Waterplace swimming pool, was identified 18 months ago. But the joint bid will collapse if Salford does not come up with an approved site soon.

[The Longford]

Revitalise?
Yeah bring all the scum from a 20 mile radius into Eccles town centre that will revitalise the place.
God forbid the 20 mil should be spent on affordable housing or doing up the precinct.
Its PFI aswell so its gonna be top notch piece of architecture (probably).

[TheGrand]

The trouble with Salford is that everything is spread out, its town halls in swinton, its shopping centre is in Pendelton, its business district is on the quays, its Uni is on the cresent (with the students living in Broughton), its Central Station is near nothing for Salford, Its "City of Salford" stadium is in Barton, and now the courts in Eccles.

The place is never going to develop and stand on its own two feet without a city centre.

[LocksRocks]

I live in Eccles, the town centre couldn't sink much lower, it's like the land that time forgot, then forgot again.

The local council tried to boost it's profile by twinning it with the former Soviet town of Chernobyl, but the Ukrainians selected somewhere with a better profile.

[Farsight]

The trouble with Salford is that everything is spread out, its town halls in swinton, its shopping centre is in Pendelton, its business district is on the quays, its Uni is on the cresent (with the students living in Broughton), its Central Station is near nothing for Salford, Its "City of Salford" stadium is in Barton, and now the courts in Eccles. The place is never going to develop and stand on its own two feet without a city centre. Well said. IMHO they should focus on having a focus. Like the stretch between The Crescent and Salford Quays. And if they can't, they should accept that in reality Salford is just suburb of Manchester and stop all the pretence.

[LocksRocks]

I'm not from Salford so I don't live in Salford I live in Manchester.
Now, If I said that to someone who is about 50, they get all uptight, they have an identity, that they are from Salford. Ask someone who is about 80 and they will say they are from the Lancashire town of Eccles. Manchester is some distant city they once went to to buy a wedding dress just after the war.
Perhaps in 30 years time everyone will be under the impression they are from Manchester, have done with it and stop pissing away council taxes having the duplicate services that are in Salford, Trafford etc.

[kids]

I'm not from Salford so I don't live in Salford I live in Manchester.
Now, If I said that to someone who is about 50, they get all uptight, they have an identity, that they are from Salford. Ask someone who is about 80 and they will say they are from the Lancashire town of Eccles. Manchester is some distant city they once went to to buy a wedding dress just after the war.
Perhaps in 30 years time everyone will be under the impression they are from Manchester, have done with it and stop pissing away council taxes having the duplicate services that are in Salford, Trafford etc.

This has happened alreadly in the younger generation. If you went up to a kid in worlsey and said "you don't live in Manchester." - they'd look at you funny. If you then told them that they do infact live in Salford they'd tell you that Salford is the area just to the west of Manchester city centre, not where they live. They all consider them selves Mancunians.

And trust me, i used to go to school in Walkden, There is not one kid with a Salford identity.

[Accura4Matalan]

A lot of Boltonian youngsters do too. Especially the girls.

[SleepyOne]

Did anyone else notice the tethered air balloon that seemed to be hovering above the Chapel Wharf site today?

[Legin]

This has happened alreadly in the younger generation. If you went up to a kid in worlsey and said "you don't live in Manchester." - they'd look at you funny. If you then told them that they do infact live in Salford they'd tell you that Salford is the area just to the west of Manchester city centre, not where they live. They all consider them selves Mancunians.

And trust me, i used to go to school in Walkden, There is not one kid with a Salford identity.

I was born in Urmston with an M23 address code, but I remember going to the Central Libarary in Manchester when I was sixteen to register, only to be told I coudn't as I wasn't a Mancunian because the address I lived at came under Trafford. This is the first and only time in my life that I was told I wasn't a Mancunian and it totally perplexed me. We should stop with these silly boundries and have one Greater Manchester Council.

[The Longford]

You cant work for Manchester City Council if you dont live in the City of Manchester - oh except for a certain MR H Bernstein who lives in Bury - but its his city so he can jolly well do what he likes!
BTW i disagree about the Salford identity thing - my family are from salford and i lived in Eccles for many years and i know lots of people of all ages who consider themsleves Salfordians and are very proud of the fact. I wasnt born in salford and have spent only about a third of my life there but because my family all come from and still live there i still think as myself a Salfordian. Say your from salford to anyone down south and you get a blank look - its easier to say you are from manchester.
Its true what The Grand said though about being spread out - its like a very bad game of Sim City. The traditional heart of salford was always regent road and cross lane but we all know what happened to the that. What planners (and some people on this forum) sometimes forget is that if you demolish buildings you run the risk of demolishing communities aswell - case in point salford.

[Northbeach]

Did it soar Sleeps?
Remember the 1HS balloon, though that seems like aeons ago now - just need Foster to show his trump card finally.

[Farsight]

How high was it?

[LocksRocks]

This has happened alreadly in the younger generation. If you went up to a kid in worlsey and said "you don't live in Manchester." - they'd look at you funny. If you then told them that they do infact live in Salford they'd tell you that Salford is the area just to the west of Manchester city centre, not where they live. They all consider them selves Mancunians.

And trust me, i used to go to school in Walkden, There is not one kid with a Salford identity.

I know younger people under say 40 consider themselves Mancs, but many of the older generation don't consider themselves Mancs and I bet half of the council thinks like that. Until the new wave come in there will be people in Salford acting against Manchester even if it effects their own interests.

[jrb]

New face of old Royal Mail building

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/744.$plit/C_17_Articles_204583_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg

URBAN: A tempus show apartment


It has been selling off-plan for three years but this is the first time buyers have been able to see what developers Country & Metropolitan have done inside the old Royal Mail buildings on the River Irwell at the end of Deansgate.

The Grade II listed Sorting House has been turned into 53 duplex apartments designed around the huge windows and steel columns of the original building.

As usual on conversions, there are some great features: exposed stonework, sloping ceilings and steel beams have all tempted buyers and half the units have already sold.

One investor buyer even snapped up all 12 apartments in the converted administration block as soon as they were released for sale.

As well as the two conversions, there are two new-build blocks at Tempus: the Bay Building and a 20-storey tower at the corner of Bridge Street and Mirabel Street.

Peter Blackledge, Country & Met's regional director, said: "This is our flagship scheme and when it was launched at the Property Investor Show in 2003 there was a great reaction and more than half were sold.

"Since then we have got on with the complex task of restoring two beautiful and historic buildings and building two new blocks. Only now are we able to invite people to come in and have a look at what we are doing here."

The firm already has experience of bringing old buildings back as new homes with their successful Jackson's Warehouse development at Piccadilly.

Comfortable

Blackledge said: "Conversions do not age, they stand the test of time and people feel comfortable with them."

It does have a good feel; money has obviously been spent on the common areas, the entrance feels plush and the basement parking is probably the only one in the city with restored period windows.

Prices vary between buildings with a two-bed on the third floor of the Bay Building for £247,000.

They are asking the same price for a similar sized two-bedder on the 9th floor of the tower but space in the Sorting Office is at a premium, with prices there starting at £266,750 for a two-bed unit on the ground floor.

There has, apparently, been a lot of interest in the top two floors of the tower, which will have just five apartments, each with large deck areas complete with the now almost obligatory hot-tub, and served by their own private lift. But how much they will set you back has not yet been revealed.

Blackledge said: "Because the apartments are larger than many others in the city we think they will attract people who want to buy and live here. It is a great spot, five minutes' walk from the main city centre yet with easy access to the road network."

They also have plans with Trafford Council to build 155 apartments on a site on Northumberland Road aimed at first-time buyers with prices starting under £100,000 and a portion set aside for "affordable housing".

[jrb]

Another 14 storey proposal. Not sure if it's Salford or Manchester.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/trafford2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/trafford111.jpg

[The Longford]

Ive seen it! Its in Mcr and its rubbish!

[jrb]

Ive seen it! Its in Mcr and its rubbish!

If it's rubbish it won't get planning permission then. :)

What else have you seen Mr Longford? :wink2:

You know you want to tell us. :yes:

[The Longford]

If it's rubbish it won't get planning permission then. :)

I wish that was true - its Peel holdings so it should glide through!

What else have you seen Mr Longford? :wink2:

You know you want to tell us. :yes:

Nothing too exciting to you lot i can assure you (its mainly extentions to houses in conservation areas and nasty flats in Whalley range and Chorlton and the like).
Just seen the Belvedere House proposal and the HSBC bank scheme.

[jrb]

Nothing too exciting to you lot i can assure you (its mainly extentions to houses in conservation areas and nasty flats in Whalley range and Chorlton and the like).
Just seen the Belvedere House proposal and the HSBC bank scheme.

Care to expand a little on the HSBC Bank scheme?

Change to retail isn't it?

Any additional info would be interesting.

[dirtyred619]

What else have you seen Mr Longford? :wink2:

You know you want to tell us. :yes:


The above could also be said about you too!!! :gossip:

[The Longford]

HSBC
Retail in the banking hall - offices above to go over to residential.
Its going to have to be top class to get through and 'just good enough' wont do!
No objections in principle but the detailing has to be perfect.
When they get it right it will be fantastic (we hope!)

[jrb]

The above could also be said about you too!!! :gossip:

Unfortunately Dirtyred I get to see very little. However I ask lots of questions and sometimes get answers, which I always pass on if I'm allowed to. :)

[dirtyred619]

Fair do's, this project that you can't tell us about until Beetham has finished has intrigued me though.... :)

[dirtyred619]

A couple of pics of Taylorson St/ XQ7 U/C, 'scuse the fingers they're taken on my camera phone!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/dirtyred619/Photo-0007.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/dirtyred619/Photo-0006.jpg

[jrb]

Any ideas? :)

http://www.squarefuture.com/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/mika.jpg

[man med]

Early version of the Edge ?

[highriser]

Abito starting to get it's curves
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0648.jpg
Tempus Tower
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0649.jpg
And Spectrum
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0650.jpg

[jrb]

Booming Salford's tax bonus

SALFORD'S growing population has helped keep the city's council tax bills down.

An extra £1m will be generated from 1,500 new households paying tax.

This has played a part in town hall bosses pegging this year's council tax increase to about three per cent for the 216,000 residents.

New apartments at Salford Quays and in the Chapel Street area, plus a new private estate at Agecroft, have boosted the council tax base.

In 2004 the city reversed the trend of people leaving for the first time in more than two decades.

In 1981 the population was more than 240,000 but then fell every year. It now stands at 216,530.

A £60,000 report by consultants last year said increasing the population to 226,000 in the next 10 years was the key to increasing the city's income and allowing improvements to be made. Council bosses are also lobbying in a bid to get more grant from Whitehall due to the population rise.

Next month the council will approve a budget of £189.2m, plus a capital investment programme of £108m.

City finance spokesman Coun Bill Hinds said: "We are seeing signs of an increase in population, which is the result of massive investment in Salford.

"This is bringing benefits which everyone in the city can share."

Council leader John Merry said: "We hope to convince government that the official estimates of population for our area are flawed. More people are living here than they think, so we should be getting more grant from Whitehall. We'll continue to fight our corner on that."

[RobertM]

Great shots highriser. I stroll between all these buildings regularly but lack of a camera prevents me from uploading some nice shots for everyone. :( I love that Spectrum one especially; nice moody sky as a backdrop.

[highriser]

Great shots highriser. I stroll between all these buildings regularly but lack of a camera prevents me from uploading some nice shots for everyone. :( I love that Spectrum one especially; nice moody sky as a backdrop.

Cheers Rob,,,that area is weird atm its just one big building site,,and there's still loads of land there to develop,,i think there's going to be plenty of activity around this bit of the city for many years

[paulmac35]

SCALLIES FOR FUCKS SAKE, FUCKING SCALLIES. Jesus fucking Christ, what the frig's happened to the World when Mancs are saying "chav"?


Nicely put! Hate that term chavs! i always use scally too :)

[Mez]

Bar 'Chav'.

Two more words I hate due to the constant onslaught of Southern Students on Oxford rd. (I dont hate Southern students...Just their way of life. ;-) )

1. 'Book'- As in; "...That band larst night was really 'book' yeah??

Meaning- When you write 'Cool' on the phone in a predictive txt message, Book comes up first.

2. 'Tele'- As in; "...Yeah geez, that girl is really 'tele'.

Meaning- Something or someone is described as being 'tele', when it/he/she is attractive/'fit' enough to be on television.

...Sickening.

Dgnr8 mate. At least your in Leeds. And not Manc-don.

[ForeverSalfordRed]

where does the word chav come from?

[b4mmy]

where does the word chav come from?

http://timworstall.typepad.com/timworstall/2004/12/origins_of_the_.html

[man med]

from today..
not as bad as we thought eh..

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/84/29/07/80/3A/5A/11/DA/A7/B7/E6/71/54/2D/D3/F5/10/FEEF0C50AA4711DAB1B92D7A542DD3F5.jpg

[The Longford]

Those bleeding 'georgian' offices are such an anachronism - i hate them sooooo much.
I have a hit list of fake georgian - these, the ones behind Peter House, those at Salford Quays and not quite the same thing but them houses behind Deansgate and the Air and Space Museum.
Where are Connell Bros when you need them?

[jrb]

from today..
not as bad as we thought eh..

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool00/84/29/07/80/3A/5A/11/DA/A7/B7/E6/71/54/2D/D3/F5/10/FEEF0C50AA4711DAB1B92D7A542DD3F5.jpg

Indeed Man Med.

[cottonopolis]

Bayley? If so I must agree - turned out alot better than feared.

[caw123]

Favourable lighting I'm afraid, it still looks shite to me.

[The Longford]

Favourable lighting I'm afraid, it still looks shite to me.

Agreed!