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minime
August 5th, 2005, 12:40 PM
:ohno: here we go.....

Construction standards warning
United Arab Emirates: Tuesday, November 23 - 2004 at 09:07
UAE construction firms are using substandard quality concrete with a reduced service life, a building design expert has warned. Dr Abdul-Rahim Sabouni, President of the UAE Chapter of the American Concrete Association, says the Middle East construction sector needs to take a more professional approach, with better codes of practice and quality control.

source: http://www.ameinfo.com/49192.html

Middle East construction boom will collapse without better concrete quality and protection

Sabouni, who is President of the UAE Chapter of the American Concrete Institute, and a building design expert at Abu Dhabi Works Department, was speaking on the first day of the Annual Concrete Technology and Corrosion Protection Conference, held as part of Gulf Construction Conference week, at Dubai's Emirates Towers hotel.

Sabouni highlighted that the service life of reinforced concrete is significantly lower in the UAE than in other parts of the world.

"There is a tendency to use a 'trial and error' approach to materials and processes which have not been standardised or fully tested."

"These processes are applied without supervision, leaving poor results. A more professional approach is needed, with special attention to the entire design construction process."

Sabouni told more than 50 delegates that the root of the problem lies in a number of factors, including the harsh, high salinity of the local environment, designers specifying concrete in an insufficient manner, and a workforce dominated by expatriates with differing qualifications, knowledge, training and experience.

"There are no national design codes and practices in place, there is vagueness in construction liability and overall regulation of the construction decision-making process is not well-defined," he said.

He stressed that poor quality concrete is often chosen at the design stage, and then corrosion inhibitors added at a later stage, rather than a proper concentration on the initial quality of the concrete used.

"While most designers and contractors do appreciate the importance of specifying concrete for durability, their specification is often improper, due to a lack of awareness of the different types of concrete."

And while Sabouni suggested the addition of substances such as fly ash and blast furnace slag greatly decreases concrete permeability, adding these substances is difficult and requires careful monitoring.

"In this market, if something is difficult to do, they simply tend not to do it," he said.

Meanwhile, keynote speaker Mike Walker, Consultant and former Technical Manager of the UK's Concrete Society, explored the ways in which concrete can be protected, with specific reference to the local market.

"The concept of concrete protection must be established at every stage of the production process, and the first line of defence has to be in choosing good quality concrete in the first place," he said.

Gulf Construction Conference Week brings together more than 70 global thought leaders and almost 400 delegates, to listen to four separate conference streams, covering Aluminium and Glass, Insulation, Concrete Technology and Corrosion Protection and Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning.

The Concrete Technology and Corrosion Protection event ends on Tuesday, November 23. It includes papers, presentations and discussions by speakers from the GCC, Canada, Australia, the UK, Germany and Jordan.

The lively five-day conference event, now in its second successful year, brings together industry thought leaders with regional and local construction industry players, in an informal environment designed to share knowledge, further the professionalism of the industry as a whole, and create a stronger, more sustainable and commercially viable Gulf-wide construction sector.

Gold sponsor of the whole event is Saudi Arabia's ALUPCO, the largest aluminium extrusion and surface treatment company in the Middle East.

Gulf Construction Conference Week is staged in association with Gulf Construction magazine, the undisputed leading trade journal for the building and construction industries in the gulf. It is supported by, and strategically positioned alongside, the Big 5 exhibition, the most important and biggest building, building services and construction event in the Middle East. In 2003, the Big 5 attracted some 27,000 visitors from all over the world.

The four events are sponsored by a number of leading regional and international companies, including ALUPCO, Jotun Powder Coatings, Installux Aluminium, Alukbond, Stremler Glass Hardware, Arabian Fiberglass Insulation Company (AFICO), Terraco UAE, SPM Thermo-Shield® Inc. and VTS Clima.

They are also supported by a number of leading organisations, including the UAE Contractors' Association (UAECA), American Concrete Institute (ACI-UAE Chapter), the Concrete Society and ASHRAE's Emirates Falcon Chapter (ASHVE).
source: http://www.ameinfo.com/49153.html

dubaiflo
August 5th, 2005, 01:05 PM
of course we need standards and codes here that is for sure.
another reason why i would go with reasonable well known developer...

minime
August 5th, 2005, 03:21 PM
even then, they guarantee nothing.... I looked at the Ocean Heights swimming pool site by DAMAC, a highly respectable company, but the pillar works look like one giant saline swimming pool with the metal bits sticking out... This has been the case for at least 5 months....

juiced
August 23rd, 2005, 03:23 AM
this warning is almost a year old?

Dubai_Boy
August 23rd, 2005, 04:03 AM
You dont say .....

minime
August 23rd, 2005, 07:52 AM
this warning is almost a year old?
That means there is only 14 years to go before the shelf life is reached and demolition of your new appartment can start...

I am astonished that nobody seems to care about the quality of the developments done.... This post was here for weeks and nobody seems to care...

I mean... homes with cracks in them before you get the key are becoming the norm in Dubai?? It is not something I am used to....

:eek2:

juiced
August 23rd, 2005, 08:26 AM
That means there is only 14 years to go before the shelf life is reached and demolition of your new appartment can start...

I am astonished that nobody seems to care about the quality of the developments done.... This post was here for weeks and nobody seems to care...

I mean... homes with cracks in them before you get the key are becoming the norm in Dubai?? It is not something I am used to....

:eek2:


cracks are already here, ever taken a look at villas in meadows 9 for instance?
i predict a massive structural collapse within 5 years, so sell well before that

DUBAI
August 23rd, 2005, 11:50 AM
:baaa: :old: :ancient:

source26
August 23rd, 2005, 11:56 AM
Welcome to the 21 century city of the future.
quality is in details, of the contracts, that is.
anyhow that astroid in 2012 may put a brutal end to it all ..
:lol:

juiced
August 23rd, 2005, 12:11 PM
ever the optimist arent you source ;)

Dubai_Boy
August 23rd, 2005, 12:13 PM
YOU G E T

minime
December 14th, 2005, 04:24 PM
of course we need standards and codes here that is for sure.
another reason why i would go with reasonable well known developer...

So True! But isn't NAKHEEL one of the best known developers?

dubaiflo
December 14th, 2005, 04:34 PM
yepp, therefore i would not have a problem to buy on the palm. we even considered to do so.
but then we found marinscape.

Bahraini Spirit
December 14th, 2005, 04:34 PM
This is pretty serious. The thing is, emphasis is now on buildin in bulk rather than quality, it's all about profit generation rather than anythin else. Sad but true and this is how many businesses run these days.

minime
December 14th, 2005, 04:38 PM
it will hurt Dubai in the long run I am affraid... Just like Spain....

AltinD
December 14th, 2005, 05:32 PM
... I looked at the Ocean Heights swimming pool site by DAMAC, a highly respectable company, but the pillar works look like one giant saline swimming pool with the metal bits sticking out... This has been the case for at least 5 months....

Are you serious? :D


Go read that thread again please.

Tom_Green
December 14th, 2005, 05:42 PM
This is a bigger threat to Dubais grow than terrorism. I can imagine that some people who want to invest in Dubai start to think about it. Some companies are to greedy

minime
December 14th, 2005, 05:53 PM
This is a bigger threat to Dubais grow than terrorism. I can imagine that some people who want to invest in Dubai start to think about it. Some companies are to greedy
Bruce from Mag 218 has a nice theory about the construction quality problems (http://m.rtijn.info/dubai/marina/2005/11/nakheel-jumeirah-islands-villas.html) and that they might not be directly caused on purpose but rather because there is a lack of quality control. This is esp. important with large projects and according to Bruce there are obviously not enough quality control people to check up on the workers...

I think this can happen with any large project but it is the job of the project developer to make sure this does not happen. Unfortunately they do not really feel responsable....

AltinD
December 14th, 2005, 06:08 PM
I was seeing that BBC documentary on the Scyscraper's history and they were talking about a scyscraper in UK build with pre-fab in early 60s. On the top floor a gas cylinder exploded in the kitchen and the entire corner of the building, howsing kitchens, collapsed. Some of the former workers were talking about the their unresponsible work quality, like bolts used wrongly to assemble the panels, or sometimes not used at all.

AltinD
December 14th, 2005, 06:10 PM
One huge concern is an abondance of counterfite materials sold as original but made somewhere in China or in Sharjah/Ajman.

Alsdo the concrete grade used is a problem.

AltinD
December 14th, 2005, 06:20 PM
No Karama clarity for the building industry
by Sean Cronin

Wouldn’t it be handy if there was a Karama market for contractors?

For those who don’t know, Karama is the place to go in Dubai if you want to buy a fake Louis Vuitton bag; or a pirated DVD with subtitles that have been complied by a seven year-old student of English from Beijing; or a Rolex watch that, frankly, isn’t fooling anyone.

For Messrs Rolex, Vuitton, Versace and Armani, the presence of markets like this is a bit of a pain in the backside, but at least us consumers have a choice.

You can buy the real thing and pay for it or you can buy the fake and pay substantially less.

If you want to buy the real thing, you go to the big glitzy air-conditioned shopping mall with the soothing piped elevator music.

If you want to buy the fake you go round the back of a shop in Karama, and into the dingy backroom where the ceiling is only six foot high and the flies play chicken with the slowly turning rotors of the ceiling fan.

They are two very distinct retailing environments and not even the most incompetent of shoppers would ever get them confused.

But there is no such clarity in the building products and
materials market.

There is no suburb of Dubai where peddlers will sidle up to you and whisper “Readymix, rebar, rockwool, very good price.” Or if there is, I haven’t found it.

So who is to know what is real and what is fake? It’s a bit of a worry really.

One Dubai-based investigator of counterfeit building products says that more than half of the products circulating in the market are counterfeit.

He also reckons that some of the buildings currently under construction in the region should have expiry dates printed on the side of them like cartons of eggs.

Discovering that the Louis Vuitton bag you bought in good faith, was not in fact crafted by Mr Vuitton in his stylish Paris studio but by Mr Lee Huay Tong in his Shanghai sweatshop, might lead to some personal distress. But you’ll get over it.

Discovering that the concrete in your tower block was made with a 25:1 mix of Creek sludge and expired Weetabix, is a whole different ball game.

Sean Cronin
Editor

http://www.itp.net/business/features/details.php?id=3453&category=construction