Area in the foreground is Middlewood locks. They reinstated a canal through there not too long ago and the area is now ripe for development. There was some big plans for the area before the world collapsed.

Any Liverpool forum members about? :shifty:

Has anyone else noticed the new backdrop for North West Tonight?

If not, here you go. (cue the remarks regarding the news reader from....)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6762/ebay098.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5090/ebay099.jpg

Any Liverpool forum members about? :shifty:

Has anyone else noticed the new backdrop for North West Tonight?

If not, here you go. (cue the remarks regarding the news reader from....)



I like it; I think it looks much better than just the bridge at the Salford Quays :)

http://i42.tinypic.com/izsxg1.jpg

Here's another :D

Had a nosey around Quay House yesterday, this small studio will continue to be used for the local bulletins, as the large studio with the IWMN in the 'background' (as they are just screens) will be used for BBC Breakfast and North West Tonight only. :)

... as in, Stockholm, Gothenburg, Malmo, Oslo, Helsinki, Turku, Copenhagen, Aarhus, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Brussels, Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux, Marseille, Barcelona, Madrid, Valencia, Seville, Porto, Lisbon, Geneva, Zurich, Stuttgart, Munich, Dusseldorf, Cologne, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Berlin, Leipzig, Dresden, Vienna, Salzburg, Warsaw, Krakow, Katowice, Prague, Budapest, Milan, Venice, Verona, Rome, Turin, Naples, Bucharest, Belgrade, Zagreb, Bratislava, Sofia, Dubrovnik, Athens, Cardiff, Dublin, London, Birmingham, Glasgow, Edinburgh ...... and back to Manchester ....... go back and have another look at some of these "major European cities" .... unless you have another list of cities you have been to.

Out of that list been to:-

Amsterdam
Rotterdam
Brussels
Frankfurt
Berlin
Barcelona
London
Dublin
Cardiff
Birmingham
Edinburgh
Paris
Glasgow

But also been to
Lille
Nottingham
Newcastle
Brigg:lol (ok being silly now!).

While it might not be that many, it is a lot of different cities and I still stand by that in its own way Manchester as is impressive as any major European city. I am not claiming it is as visually stunning as Paris or as exciting as London but it is the people which make Manchester.

Yeah the phrase is bandied about a lot but Manchester really is the city for new & old contrasts. But I'm sorry, Joydivison82, "That picture shows Manchester has something no Chinese megacity ever will. It has soul and character" this is an incredibly galling and ignorant comment. Did you grow up in a Chinese megacity?

No but by the very nature of China cities are mostly new. All the pictures and videos I have seen it is all modern developments. You don't get victorian mills next to brand new skyscrapers.

The American visitor who made that picture thread also made exactly the same observation.

. I am not claiming it is as visually stunning as Paris or as exciting as London but it is the people which make Manchester.

Listen mate im proud of being from Manchester , but you saying the people make the city is bollocks , Manchester has its fair share of bellend's and general skanks that need shooting in my opinion .

Listen mate im proud of being from Manchester , but you saying the people make the city is bollocks , Manchester has its fair share of bellend's and general skanks that need shooting in my opinion .

But they are easy to avoid :). I tend to find the low life scum tend to drink in their own scummy watering holes.

I was meaning more the passion, people love the city so much and there is a great sense of community, or am I actually talking about Chorlton and not Manchester :cheers:

Manchester has its fair share of bellend's and general skanks

Beautiful. Marketing Manchester should use that in their next campaign to bring in foreign tourists. Come for the German Markets, lively nightlife and bellends and skanks.

Manchester is a funny city. From some angles, it looks like a world class city, others it looks ordinary.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=st+ann's+square+manchester&hl=en&ll=53.480551,-2.242037&spn=0.00316,0.009645&client=safari&oe=UTF-8&hnear=St+Ann's+Square,+Manchester,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=53.480389,-2.242002&panoid=Vo2tk_83HsKpambAwz0MMQ&cbp=12,1.65,,0,-23.74

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=st+ann's+square+manchester&hl=en&ll=53.475289,-2.237864&spn=0.003161,0.009645&client=safari&oe=UTF-8&hnear=St+Ann's+Square,+Manchester,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=53.4754,-2.237906&panoid=LyT36bq5mkSgH87zmk6A6Q&cbp=12,269.35,,0,-42.46

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=st+ann's+square+manchester&hl=en&ll=53.481783,-2.245266&spn=0.003301,0.009645&client=safari&oe=UTF-8&hnear=St+Ann's+Square,+Manchester,+United+Kingdom&t=h&vpsrc=0&layer=c&cbll=53.481765,-2.245108&panoid=PHnBmU5za0bnfFMv6nlKzg&cbp=12,242.61,,0,1.59&z=17

Hardly skyline photos.

[QUOTE=Required;86376849]Manchester is a funny city. From some angles, it looks like a world class city, others it looks ordinary.

These look like various streetscape pictures to me - where is the skyline? I am confused.

But they are easy to avoid :). I tend to find the low life scum tend to drink in their own scummy watering holes.

I was meaning more the passion, people love the city so much and there is a great sense of community, or am I actually talking about Chorlton and not Manchester :cheers:

I knew what you meant i said that tongue in cheek ,, Manchester is a great city with fantastic people , but it got its fair share of not rights :)

Beautiful. Marketing Manchester should use that in their next campaign to bring in foreign tourists. Come for the German Markets, lively nightlife and bellends and skanks.


haha ,, what great idea :lol:

http://www.behindthecity.com/

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RDC8xCz2Qlk/Tt318-yyCBI/AAAAAAAAAiM/0i4-vZHe0v8/s1600/View+towards+Hilton.jpg

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lgx/ManPanOldTrafB603.jpg

^^

That picture is boss! :)

Nice to see the rooftop garden they went on about (bottom right) doing so well!

I think we can put the argument to bed once and for all that Manchester hasn't got a skyline.

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From Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6501413611_b32bd94652_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10413717@N08/6501413611/)
Manchester (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10413717@N08/6501413611/) by Smabs Sputzer (http://www.flickr.com/people/10413717@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6501830451_e209ef5641_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10413717@N08/6501830451/)
Salford (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10413717@N08/6501830451/) by Smabs Sputzer (http://www.flickr.com/people/10413717@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6507425267_cb2b83c6f2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10413717@N08/6507425267/)
The City of Manchester (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10413717@N08/6507425267/) by Smabs Sputzer (http://www.flickr.com/people/10413717@N08/), on Flickr

good photos.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6520313797_09ed49952c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leestephens/6520313797/)
Wintery Showers from the 23rd Floor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leestephens/6520313797/) by lee.stephens (http://www.flickr.com/people/leestephens/), on Flickr

Had a go at a 180 degree panorama from Salford Quays. Loads of snow on the hills.

It's a very wide image..

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That is a really, REALLY good picture. I want it on a canvas in my room, would you let me do that? Copy it onto a canvas?

Just out of interest, how many 60s tower blocks would you say there are in the whole of Greater Manchester? There must be at least 20+ in Salford alone with Pendleton & Eccles. I really love commie blocks, they're just ... dominant, brutal.

Edit: I count 89 on that photo.

That is phenomenal thecityofgold.
Its one of them that you could look at for ages.

Thanks for the praise. I didn't plan the photo, it just occurred to me that with the snow it might be a good time to play with making a panorama. That first one is 36 separate shots. This second one, more zoomed out, is 16. If anyone wants a copy of the original PM me with an email address. As long as it's for personal use only I'm OK with people having it. If they hadn't built Sovereign Point, or if the photo had been taken from Sovereign Point, then it would be much better.

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Please don't think I'm trolling here guys (I'm really not!) but...do you guys really like the new Salford Quays development? Most people who I've met who's visited the place agree with me, that it's really badly designed...the area feels pretty desolate. And yes, I know with growing business etc I'm sure the place will liven up but... the place just doesn't feel right to me... The urban design and a few of the highrises are poor in design. Feels like a wasted opportunity?

:dunno:

I agree, but to an extent. It's especially nice at night.

On a rainy day like today I'm sure it's a horrible, windswept, lonely place. But then again so is Canary Wharf.

As you say, more businesses will bring with it more life, but I don't think the Quays will really change that much in time, because whenever there IS a rainy day it'll STILL be desolate.

In terms of a wasted oppurtunity, yes. I think we could do without the low-rise office buildings-cum-carparks on the peninsula opposite the Lowry, and I think more development could be built up on the Trafford side. There should have never been an indoor shopping mall here, instead the shops and restaurants should have been built down the Quayside (to get that "life" you speak of"). Manchester should've taken a leaf out of Lincoln's book. In Lincoln you have the Brayford Wharf, which works really well with its cafes and restaurants lining the Quayside. Like the Quays, it's near to the city's university.

Having said all of that I'm going to wait a few years and see what comes of it. Don't forget we still have a mass of urban riverside here in Manchester which still lies in a desolate condition, such as Pomona. What fails at Salford Quays (hopefully) the council will learn their lesson and Pomona will not fall into the same trap (he says with a shred of doubt in his mind).

Please don't think I'm trolling here guys (I'm really not!) but...do you guys really like the new Salford Quays development? Most people who I've met who's visited the place agree with me, that it's really badly designed...the area feels pretty desolate. And yes, I know with growing business etc I'm sure the place will liven up but... the place just doesn't feel right to me... The urban design and a few of the highrises are poor in design. Feels like a wasted opportunity?

:dunno:

It's a fair question YB - but one to which there is no real answer. It depends on one's perspective and, I imagine, your view of the BBC's move to SQ.
If you write for the Daily Mail, you will use the 'ugliness' of the architecture to 'prove' how bad a move it was and no doubt pad it out with some human trauma about how awful everything is oop north.
Conversely there will be people, some of whom are on this forum, who would praise / defend anything that had the name Manchester / Salford / whatever attached.
As a part time resident, I see some of these things from an outsiders' perspective, whilst in my heart really wanting my home town to come up with the goods.
I visited MC/SQ a few weeks ago to try and establish an opinion of my own based on how the place 'feels' as well as looks.
Overall I think the approach (via tram from town) is quite promising - overlooking the crying shame that is Pomona of course - there is a fairly vibrant looking, modern urban environment. Clearly some of the buildings are not of the best quality but the same could be said of any other city.
Closing in on MC, the Pie Factory (so called because it used to be a pie factory btw) looks terrible, and is bound to create a bad first impression. However it is good value and highly functional - I've been shown round it by Peel. A media exec, I expect, would be more interested in the Pie Factory than the surrounding modernity.

Arriving at MC and leaving the tram behind, for the first time it's possible to get a true feel for the place. I have to say the words 'windswept and desolate' did spring readily to mind, although I did try to persuade myself that it was early days and things would inevitably get better. IMO there is too great a space given to hard landscaping and the architects' dreams of thousands of people wandering around these spaces on a balmy summer's evening are (excuse the pun) barmy. There are not enough people in that area working and living there to make that happen and sadly not enough nice weather days. The key to success is to ensure that the influx of BBC workers don't just jump into their cars after a shift and drive off home to Cheshire. As it stands now, I suspect most would.

Regarding the look of the place; there's some good; some bad. Again this is always a matter of personal opinion but fwiw I rather like the low rise curved buildings that front the BBC - elegant but understated, without the extravagance that would have got the BBC roasted for wasting licence payers' money. There are other pluses too: the Salford Uni building is a real delight, a modern classic even. The low point is almost certainly the Holiday Inn, pure laziness in terms of ambition and architecture. No excuses whatsoever. Who designed this btw? I would like to know.

There is a genuine problem with the location though, its greatest asset is also a liability - the MSC. The canal lends itself to funnelling freezing cold winds from the Irish Sea quite efficiently at MC which, being the most westerly point, is the most exposed part of the entire SQ district. Over the next phase of development more thought will need to be given to how to use the built environment to baffle those winds. Hopefully more density will fix some of these problems and produce less unnecessary paved area.

Overall then I think we have to think of SQ/MC as a work in progress rather than something to stand back and admire although from some angles, it really does look pretty good. Many a European city and most UK cities would give a right arm for something like it.
Given the state of the economy, I would be surprised to see a start on a formal Phase 2 before the end of the decade; smaller scale infill developments should improve the overall experience in the meantime.
I remain optimistic about MC's prospects.

Please don't think I'm trolling here guys (I'm really not!) but...do you guys really like the new Salford Quays development? Most people who I've met who's visited the place agree with me, that it's really badly designed...the area feels pretty desolate. And yes, I know with growing business etc I'm sure the place will liven up but... the place just doesn't feel right to me... The urban design and a few of the highrises are poor in design. Feels like a wasted opportunity?

:dunno:

I agree, but to an extent. It's especially nice at night.

On a rainy day like today I'm sure it's a horrible, windswept, lonely place. But then again so is Canary Wharf.

As you say, more businesses will bring with it more life, but I don't think the Quays will really change that much in time, because whenever there IS a rainy day it'll STILL be desolate.

In terms of a wasted oppurtunity, yes. I think we could do without the low-rise office buildings-cum-carparks on the peninsula opposite the Lowry, and I think more development could be built up on the Trafford side. There should have never been an indoor shopping mall here, instead the shops and restaurants should have been built down the Quayside (to get that "life" you speak of"). Manchester should've taken a leaf out of Lincoln's book. In Lincoln you have the Brayford Wharf, which works really well with its cafes and restaurants lining the Quayside. Like the Quays, it's near to the city's university.

Having said all of that I'm going to wait a few years and see what comes of it. Don't forget we still have a mass of urban riverside here in Manchester which still lies in a desolate condition, such as Pomona. What fails at Salford Quays (hopefully) the council will learn their lesson and Pomona will not fall into the same trap (he says with a shred of doubt in his mind).

As a Londoner, i think I can chip in with regards to the comparisons with Salford Quays and Canary Wharf. In the early days of development (late 80's/early 90's), Canary Wharf was similar to how Salford Quays is today. New developments, but quite dead, a low working population making it feel and look quite desolate.

Having worked recently in Canary Wharf, it is completely different today. It has a large daily working population of nearly 100,000 people, over 200 shops, bars and restaurants and is a vibrant and bustling place to work. The bars and restaurants lining West India Quay, the Thames and the other waterways within Canary Wharf are heaving during the evenings with the work crowd, especially in summer, and particularly on a Friday night. It has the Docklands Light Railway and Underground since the extension of the Jubilee Line. So it's basically about a 15 minute train ride from central London.

However, up until about the late 90's it wasn't like this at all. There was a building boom between about 1998 and 2003 when several new skyscrapers were built and the office capacity multiplied, the Jubilee Line extension opened, which in turn dramatically increased the working population. As a result loads of restaurants and bars moved in as well as a massive shopping complex. Canary Wharf has loads of cultural events too, especially in the summer. There are open grass areas in the middle where they host concerts and other events, have food markets and plenty more. Here is an example:
http://cdn2.wn.com/pd/c0/7a/9d57c284ee442de971c78646f3a7_grande.jpg

I remember visiting Canary Wharf during the 90's and it was dead compared to how it is now, and quite desolate. New developments such as Canary Wharf, and Salford Quays, take time to develop their own character, to attract new businesses and to attract a significant working population.

Bars lining West India Quay:
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Please don't think I'm trolling here guys (I'm really not!) but...do you guys really like the new Salford Quays development? Most people who I've met who's visited the place agree with me, that it's really badly designed...the area feels pretty desolate. And yes, I know with growing business etc I'm sure the place will liven up but... the place just doesn't feel right to me... The urban design and a few of the highrises are poor in design. Feels like a wasted opportunity?

:dunno:

I agree. It's a total missed opportunity. Incongruent and ugly in some places. If I had a few billion I would bulldoze most of it.

You can really tell that there was no plan as to what it could be like and it has really just been thrown together which is a shame because it could be spectacular. The Lowry outlet mall and Sovereign point should never have been built on the waterfront. Shocking planning.

Obviously the quays is still a work in progress, but it's development will be retarded by bad planning, FACT.

Look at the photo in reply 3027: Multi storey car park on the waterfront. Walled 1980's housing estates and Sovereign Point, The worse building (BY FAR) to be built in Greater Manchester in the 2000's. Whoever gave authorisation for these diabolical schemes should be hung drawn and quartered in my opinion.

danm

Interesting contribution.
It is worth pointing out that SQ was a project started in the 1980s like CW and yes I agree entirely that both were soulless and lifeless for a long time afterwards. CW had a mass banking sector influx from the late 90s onwards and that gave it the critical mass that it previously lacked. I wonder if MC will (in time) have the same impact on SQ.

When writing my post I resisted comparisons with CW as the scale is significantly greater. Although both areas have similar heritage - derelict docklands come good - SQ has a long way to go before it achieves that level of vibrancy.

Now I think of it, SQ also lacks a significant vertical component, so much mid rise mediocrity; I guess the tallest building would be 20-25 floors. I'm not suggesting anything stupid or uneconomic but a clutch of buildings in the 35-40 floor range with decent design and finishes would have made such a difference.

For me I actually think Spinningfields (on a good day) captures the CW vibe much better than SQ although again without the tall buildings.

Anyone who has been there recently will tell you different.
Have a walk from media city across the new bridge past the imperial war museum and then across to the Lowry.
Absolutely brilliant walk and you can clearly see how great this place can be in the future.

Other parts maybe not so much but this particular area is great.

Media City looks great and quite full of life, though it does make Salford Quay's look a little less impressive, future.architect brings up a good point with the concrete multistorey car park, a place like Salford Quay's needs more of a modern car park rather than some brutal 60s concrete lookalike

The photo I took only shows the oldest, least dense, and ugliest half of SQ. Look out the other way and you have two illuminated footbridges, the Imperial War Museum, the Lowry Theatre, MCUK, and a growing number of restaurants.

Salfords Quays is mish-mash of fairly brutal buildings. Personally I find the extreme variety interesting and often amusing. My favourites would be the red brick / neo-stalinist Bupa building and the copper tinted glass neo-stalinist Peel HQ. Both ludicrous buildings you wouldn't find anywhere else.

I agree. It's a total missed opportunity. Incongruent and ugly in some places. If I had a few billion I would bulldoze most of it.

You can really tell that there was no plan as to what it could be like and it has really just been thrown together which is a shame because it could be spectacular. The Lowry outlet mall and Sovereign point should never have been built on the waterfront. Shocking planning.

Obviously the quays is still a work in progress, but it's development will be retarded by bad planning, FACT.

Look at the photo in reply 3027: Multi storey car park on the waterfront. Walled 1980's housing estates and Sovereign Point, The worse building (BY FAR) to be built in Greater Manchester in the 2000's. Whoever gave authorisation for these diabolical schemes should be hung drawn and quartered in my opinion.

If you go south from Canary Wharf the planning starts to look the same as the mess that is Salford Quays, so it's not like that area is perfect.

I do think there's two things that have aided the former that SQ doesn't have. One is a clear focal point. The original tower and the tube station give a very dense area around which the rest of the estate has been able to develop. SQ is much more a patchwork of indpendent plots with no focus that demands better planning for users to reach. Mediacity square provides this to an extent, but it's too peripheral to the development to really play the role. Exchange Quay would have been better, but it would have required a complete transformation of Trafford Road from urban bypass to boulevard.

The second is that the financial services industry put big money and thousands of well paid jobs into a very concentrated area, in a very congested city with limited road access. It was guaranteed to produce a more walkable environment and a richer urban experience because there is no other way for those thousands of people to get to work.

http://www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/Culture/Architecture/Beautiful-Manchester-Beauty-Is-In-The-Eye-Of-The-Beholder

Fantastic set of photos ^^^

They are cool. Where is this;

http://www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/i/I0M/4F70_K.jpg

They are cool. Where is this;



Looks like The Marble Arch bar on Rochdale Road

Ah good call yeah given the slim profile of the place I'd say you're probably right.

Looks like The Marble Arch bar on Rochdale Road

Confirmed:)

Bit late, but another reason why Salford Quays isn't yet a full on lively hotspot is because they're still huge areas of the Quays that aren't yet developed! Like the whole strip of land behind Harbour City Station, and the plot of land nowadays used as a car park just next to the NV Buildings. There's also a huge amount of brownfield space behind MediaCityUK & on Broadway.

Pacific Quays, too. And the large strip of potential along Trafford Quays/Embankment. The recent approval of the Twin Towers scheme at Exchange Quay is a good little filler, but they're still areas of Exchange Quay that are undeveloped.

The area of land behind Anchorage Station and even the peninsula where Francis Basin is (with all the low-density offices) could be developed into a huge office development, or something.

The area around Salford Quays station, as well as a large block of land just round the corner from it on the Quayside.

There's also the area around the old Dock House which has a bit of potential to become a plaza or a square of some sort.

Filling these areas up over the next 30+ years with large blocks containing offices, residential apartments/aparthotels/hotels and retail will ensure a stable density down at Salford Quays. Fer sure.

Manchester and Salford

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Manchester and Salford

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'Separate cities' my arse!:)

Quite :)

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What spire is that to the left of the Town Hall?

It looks like a visual affect, as opposed to a real building, in that shot...

Sunny Salford

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Media City lurking by the CJC

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Best sky I've seen so far this morning.

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^^

Some fabulous photos.

Chorltonred, do you have an apartment there? :)

Looks like the images were taken from Albert Bridge House to me.

Yeah I work at ABH. Taxman!

Need to get a decent camera up there, 3GS is bobbins and no zoom.

Hello all,

What a great forum.

I moved into the Saint George's Island complex in June, and the views are great from the 10th floor.

Here are a few if you're interested

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/joelucas11/P1000887.jpg
Taken in December during the cool spell - snow on the Pennines in the distance

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/joelucas11/P1000885.jpg

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/joelucas11/P1000884.jpg

And some more taken back in the summer - apologies for the patronising captions!!!

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/joelucas11/airport.jpg

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/joelucas11/shutlingsloe.jpg

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/joelucas11/lymepark.jpg

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/joelucas11/P1000390.jpg

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Wow! Fabulous pictures.

Just out of interest, and you don't have to answer if you think it's too personal, what does it cost to rent one of those per month?

£695 1 bed. Dandara.
Characterless. No offence.

£695 1 bed. Dandara.
Characterless. No offence.

I agree about the characterless factor.

I'd much prefer to live in the Northern Quarter or Ancoats, any idea about £pcm an average flat there is?

Thanks in advance :)

Still pricey p/m. 680 for a two bed though is not bad. That’s in the block directly opposite the Holiday Inn Express. Obviously it works out better if you’re sharing. But with council tax on top, lets just say that most can’t afford to live in the city, unless you have epic cash or on a mega wage which allows a decent social life.

Love those photos with the snowy hills behind the city centre! Thanks mate

Still pricey p/m. 680 for a two bed though is not bad. That’s in the block directly opposite the Holiday Inn Express. Obviously it works out better if you’re sharing. But with council tax on top, lets just say that most can’t afford to live in the city, unless you have epic cash or on a mega wage which allows a decent social life.

Oh :( these are all things I have to start thinking about now. I hate getting old!

I'll probably end up sharing with a few friends, but I don't know. Thanks for the info :)

£695 1 bed. Dandara.
Characterless. No offence.

No offence taken.

£795. (with parking). 2 beds. Dandara.

I don't care if they're characterless with a massive balcony and a view like that! Besides, it's renting. Who cares. Won't be here for ever.

Not a fan of the Northern Quarter to live to be honest. Too busy, too intense, too noisy. A lot of the flats I viewed were really dark inside too, not surprising given the nature of the architecture round there, especially flats looking out on to back streets. Ancoats is just a bit grim as well, would rather be at this end.

All totally subjective of course.

Wow! Fabulous pictures.

Just out of interest, and you don't have to answer if you think it's too personal, what does it cost to rent one of those per month?

Not too personal at all! See my other post. :)

Glad you liked the photos.

Love those photos with the snowy hills behind the city centre! Thanks mate

Cheers! I'm hoping we get some proper snow this winter at some point - would make for a great view. :)

No offence taken.

£795. (with parking). 2 beds. Dandara.

I don't care if they're characterless with a massive balcony and a view like that! Besides, it's renting. Who cares. Won't be here for ever.

Not a fan of the Northern Quarter to live to be honest. Too busy, too intense, too noisy. A lot of the flats I viewed were really dark inside too, not surprising given the nature of the architecture round there, especially flats looking out on to back streets. Ancoats is just a bit grim as well, would rather be at this end.

All totally subjective of course.

I have a preference of neither, nor any city centre apartment bar one near Picc which was the best thing I’ve ever seen. What I am saying though, is for anything near that price, in a perfect world, which it isn’t, I’d want something more for the money I was paying, (closer to the city, secured gated parking etc) given that its virtually wasted money (balcony views aside). Like you said its subject to preference, but also value for money. I’m just bitter that I once had a converted mill flat and lived next to a cricket bat wielding, wheelchair bound scally madman who got his through DSS.

I’m a snow enthusiast, but the time has come and gone for me. No snow at Christmas and its the long wait til summer.

Not too personal at all! See my other post. :)

Glad you liked the photos.

Thank you for all the advice in your above post too. :)

As I said this is something I have to start thinking about now, so I suppose I have to start somewhere. I've taken your opinion into account, Season's too, but I want to test the water in a few areas first (while I'm young ;))

Thanks again :)

given that its virtually wasted money


A commonly held but misguided point of view. Renting is not wasted money, you're paying for somewhere to live.

It's only 'wasted' if you buy into the Thatcherite dream of the bank buying a shitty semi in the 'burbs so you can spend the best years of your life repaying the debt.

Only in the UK do we have this bizarre fascination with 'owning' a home.

Debt is slavery. :)

Only in the UK do we have this bizarre fascination with 'owning' a home.

Debt is slavery. :)

definition of mortgage :shocked:"mort"=death "gage"=grip.

From Flickr

Runcorn in the distance;

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6044/6292593313_3ee6ed73a6_b.jpg

^^ worst pic of Runcorn I've ever seen...;)

Just found this in an obscure title on Flickr.

Nice shot. :banana:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6504992957_50105501e6_o.jpg

Dan Heron. http://www.flickr.com/photos/danheron/6504992957/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Has there been some dodgy editing on that photo of manc/runcorn? How is it that big/close on the skyline?

Has there been some dodgy editing on that photo of manc/runcorn? How is it that big/close on the skyline?

It happens when using a high zoom

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74486058@N04/6708863853/
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6708863853_89d8ea62e8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74486058@N04/6708863853/)
Manchester Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74486058@N04/6708863853/) by pawelmtrzpis (http://www.flickr.com/people/74486058@N04/), on Flickr

Brilliant! :)

Nice view - You should have a SSC party and invite us all round ha ha

Sunset in Salford was amazing again tonight -

http://s3.amazonaws.com/files.posterous.com/cloud23/QWGJP1xlKGw2pBz5Nl5ijGaglnkWxZPUTyUiYgHeMxgudCYk9NUnsJNDe3Db/image.jpeg.scaled.1000.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJFZAE65UYRT34AOQ&Expires=1326738402&Signature=wGt6diMx9WYbyOLRXBGDjghbgKw%3D

Pic from http://cloud23.posterous.com/

thought might bang on a full view...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6709483291_949a8228d4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74486058@N04/6709483291/)
Untitled_Panorama1a6 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74486058@N04/6709483291/) by pawelmtrzpis (http://www.flickr.com/people/74486058@N04/), on Flickr

A commonly held but misguided point of view. Renting is not wasted money, you're paying for somewhere to live.

It's only 'wasted' if you buy into the Thatcherite dream of the bank buying a shitty semi in the 'burbs so you can spend the best years of your life repaying the debt.

Only in the UK do we have this bizarre fascination with 'owning' a home.

Debt is slavery. :)

Lol.

If you're renting you're still paying a mortgage... Somebody else's...

I think I'll stick to paying my mortgage of £500 a month for a 3 bed house over paying £550 in rent for a 2 bed flat, somewhat secure in the knowlege that I'll get a chunk of that back when I choose to move on (and not when my landlord chooses).

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6760675139_7784d98436_b.jpg

Lol.

If you're renting you're still paying a mortgage... Somebody else's...

I think I'll stick to paying my mortgage of £500 a month for a 3 bed house over paying £550 in rent for a 2 bed flat, somewhat secure in the knowlege that I'll get a chunk of that back when I choose to move on (and not when my landlord chooses).

You're limited in terms of your freedom. You can't move easily, you have to maintain a certain level of steady income regardless of possible changing circumstances. Basically you're trapped. Which for many people I guess is fine. I have other people's rent pay my rent. The perfect situation. :)

You're limited in terms of your freedom. You can't move easily, you have to maintain a certain level of steady income regardless of possible changing circumstances. Basically you're trapped. Which for many people I guess is fine. I have other people's rent pay my rent. The perfect situation. :)

It's quite interesting that if you have a flat and you lose your job the council will pay your rent for you (up to a pretty ridiculous amount), yet if you have a mortgage and you lose your job, you lose your house.

Anyway I'm sure most people who decide to buy a house are pretty financially and geographically stable. I'm young so I rent but there's no doubt that once I'm settled I will look to buy a house.

But I would have to earn a steady income to keep renting (how can I put this without sounding a tit?) at a standard of housing I want. Like i said before, I found renting more expensive than buying and my mortgage is much more affordable in comparison.

Also, I don't want to move for a while. I moved so many times in the last decade while renting I've almost lost count. Mostly due to the whims or greed of a landlord. I suppose if I wanted more flexibility I could do what you seem to have done and rent somewhere while I rent this place out, knowing that I won't still be paying rent in my old age and be less of a burden on society or my kids then, as i will have paid off my mortgage and be living for 'free'. Oh and with the right life insurance policy your mortgage gets paid if you lose your job ;)

Which ever way you look at it, it's lots of hundreds of pounds out of you bank account to put a roof over your head! But with a mortgage I'm a £100 a month better off and will have something to show for all those payments at the end of it.

here is a repost from today, shud av popt in in hither.

Lets me see if one can remember how to post an image.
I was amazed my photo bucket account was still active.

I took this from the top floor of the maxwell building at uni of Salford Manchester the other day. note - Co-op HQ

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/chasedwar/Mcr_pano_from_maxwell_blding.jpg

Copied across from my Metrolink update today...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6777704793_5f436a8962_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlf18/6777704793/)
IMG_0348 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlf18/6777704793/) by carlf18 (http://www.flickr.com/people/carlf18/), on Flickr

Lovely photo Chas. Brings back bad memories of final year Control Engineering exam, thinking I'd fluffed my degree - turns out nobody knew any of the answers! Is the restaurant/cafe still on the 6th floor? Can anybody go in? I've not been in there since '93.

Not the whole skyline, just the Beetham Tower, but here's one I took from the Salford Quays :) (Sorry about the blurs on the photo, that was from the design on the bridge!)

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd388/akeller94/SAM_0255.jpg

Big up ya biatch! Innit!

http://www.ptchaw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/wright_rob.jpg

http://www.ptchaw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/wright_rob.jpg

CIS Building seen from Atherton, M46
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6795299357_69f2be8349_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6795299357/)

Fog over Lower (New) Broughton
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6795302071_2bc48c6d95_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6795302071/)

over Lower Broughton towards the hills in Ramsbotttom
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6795355819_b1c64c62ba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6795355819/)

Salford Precinct during the riots
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6795393841_bf9ab13070_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6795393841/)

Tyres on Fire 15th August 2011
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6795423937_03ea31a274_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6795423937/)

My old bedroom window, 3rd from top left in the block (Bramall Ct) in the last photo!

Chew that server up! :banana2:

Credit goes to Paul Gregory "Monki"'s photostream

A. For his wonderful pictures.
B. For allowing them to be copied and pasted.
C. Thank you.

More here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/monkiphotos/

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5169/5212209538_9de62e8d36_o.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5301/5596040507_5c8320a2b7_o.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6007/5924056952_a7501303b5_o.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6133/5923492147_878f4b89ab_o.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5143/5688679928_932087f07f_o.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2615/4179826268_cd9b8fb411_o.jpg

^^ :applause:

Fog over Lower (New) Broughton
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6795302071_2bc48c6d95_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6795302071/)


AWESOME!!

very nice....

Chew that server up! :banana2:

Credit goes to Paul Gregory "Monki"'s photostream

A. For his wonderful pictures.
B. For allowing them to be copied and pasted.
C. Thank you.

More here.

Absolutely stunning pictures there JRB :)

Whoever said Manchester doesn't have a skyline was most definitely mistaken.

Probably the best city centre skyline shot from Beetham I've seen so far.

Shame it's not bigger.

http://i.imgur.com/mhzQm.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/harrypotts/

PS. Must sneak up to the upper floors of the Hilton and get some shots through the windows at the end of the corridors.

^^ That's quality JRB. It just shows how Beetham skews the skyline, being disproportionately larger than anything else.... not that I'd rather it wasn't there, just sayin'.

^^ That's quality JRB. It just shows how Beetham skews the skyline, being disproportionately larger than anything else.... not that I'd rather it wasn't there, just sayin'.

I genuinely would rather have had two seperate towers, one for the hotel and the other for the apartments.

Picture by Aiden O'Rourke at http://www.aidan.co.uk/

Aiden's not too keen on people hosting his pictures, so please pay a visit to his website, look at his other wonderful skyline pictures, and perhaps buy some of them.

Pretty up to date picture. You can see the reclad towers(orange and brown) in front of Beetham. Obviously taken last Summer.

Note the red crane to the right of the picture. There now currently stand a 33 storey tower. As if you 'all' didn't know that.

http://i.imgur.com/HAOvF.jpg

Taken today from Shidehill car park.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1775/coophq069j.jpg

Great photo Jerbster, lovely sky. High Street is deserted - it looks like you had Town all to yourself!

Different view with Jodrell Bank on show

http://cdn.geolocation.ws/geolocation_media/panoramio/01704/p-017041233.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6876773811_1d777c5f62_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/explore-the-darkness/6876773811/)
Tempus Tower Manchester 31/52 Explored 14th Feb (http://www.flickr.com/photos/explore-the-darkness/6876773811/) by explore the darkness (http://www.flickr.com/people/explore-the-darkness/), on Flickr

^^ I used to live in Tempus Tower and this was my exact view.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6876773811_1d777c5f62_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/explore-the-darkness/6876773811/)
Tempus Tower Manchester 31/52 Explored 14th Feb (http://www.flickr.com/photos/explore-the-darkness/6876773811/) by explore the darkness (http://www.flickr.com/people/explore-the-darkness/), on Flickr

how come my work has been taken from my flickr account with out permission being asked or even a quick mail being sent asking if it can be used on this site ?

why not?

why not?

due to the fact that ive never been asked if they could use it ?

would you not be pissed if your work was taken and added to a random forum and no one asked first ?

Jesus, you break into buildings to produce your 'work' and you complain when someone benignly shares it, sorry 'uses' it on a forum and links to your page in doing so?

Jesus, you break into buildings to produce your 'work' and you complain when someone benignly shares it, sorry 'uses' it on a forum and links to your page in doing so?

can you prove ive ever "broken in" to any where ?

Hmmm, I dunno, I guess I'd be flattered that my photos were being enjoyed and promoted, they are correctly attributed to you, linked to your flickr account and they're not bring used for commercial gain. If didn't want other people to enjoy them why put them on flickr? Are you a pro?

im pro on flickr yes. i dont mind it being used to be fair but it would have been nice to have some sort of contact first letting me know that it was being used in the first place.

can you prove ive ever "broken in" to any where ?

Wow you just blew my mind.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/6920648015_1ce2123da4_b.jpg

Prove you didn't in court.

Wow you just blew my mind.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/6920648015_1ce2123da4_b.jpg

Prove you didn't in court.

that was a walk in site :D

so come again

A pro on flickr? I meant a pro for real as in you pay your rent eat and drink with the money hard earned from clicking away, that sort of pro? I ask as your photos a pretty good, hence somebody here wanted to raise people's awareness of it, it's a double edged sword this internet lol

For clarification, are you saying that isn't trespass?

For clarification, are you saying that isn't trespass?

you need to learn the law before proposing that i have broken it

trespass is not illegal as it is a civil offence :D

come again sir.

A pro on flickr? I meant a pro for real as in you pay your rent eat and drink with the money hard earned from clicking away, that sort of pro? I ask as your photos a pretty good, hence somebody here wanted to raise people's awareness of it, it's a double edged sword this internet lol

oh no im not that sort of pro

i hate the internet

its full of keyboard warriors

And insomniacs lol.

And insomniacs lol.

to true

you need to learn the law before proposing that i have broken it

trespass is not illegal as it is a civil offence :D

come again sir.

Right. And posting someone's photo on a forum is?

I'm just trying to clarify whether you respect property or not. You're all over the place.

Right. And posting someone's photo on a forum is?

I'm just trying to clarify whether you respect property or not. You're all over the place.

i have more respect for property than most people ever will

i live by the rule of "take nothing but pictures leave nothing but foot prints"

i know there's alot of explores who dont live by this and thats why we have a bad name.

You were trespassing on the sites you took the photos from. You didn't have permission to be in those places and you don't have a problem with that, fair enough. Yet you do miraculously have a problem when someone reproduces your pic without your permission. This is baffling to me.

You were trespassing on the sites you took the photos from. You didn't have permission to be in those places and you don't have a problem with that, fair enough. Yet you do miraculously have a problem when someone reproduces your pic without your permission. This is baffling to me.


can you not read

i dont mind it being used but i would have liked to have been told where its being used

how come my work has been taken from my flickr account with out permission being asked or even a quick mail being sent asking if it can be used on this site ?

Your first post. As I was saying:

You were trespassing on the sites you took the photos from. You didn't have permission to be in those places and you don't have a problem with that, fair enough. Yet you do miraculously have a problem when someone reproduces your pic without your permission. This is baffling to me.

As I say I just think it's weird. I have no quarrel with urban explorers. Just this particular scenario.

Your first post. As I was saying:



As I say I just think it's weird. I have no quarrel with urban explorers. Just this particular scenario.

ok well you get up high take some nice shots

then

find them on a forum with out you knowing about them being used

i bet your some old dude who enjoys view from the safety of your arm chair and never gets out to view them for your self.

Lol. Yeah you got me.

You tell the site owners you're going to trespass on their property before you get up high next time then I might take your pleas seriously. Your position is a joke.

are your 8k posts all troll to people who do stuff ?

No. Do you understand how ridiculous your position is?

in what way is my position ridiculous?

i asked why my work had been used with out telling me ? simple

You want to give permission before someone reproduces your photos on the net yet you don't seek permission yourself when you trespass on property to take the photos, and you mean not to seek permission. This is ridiculous. Goodnight.

just disable the "share" button on your page if you don't want people sharing it..

plus if I like the photo I click on the link to that persons flickr to see more shots and sometimes add it to my favorites

in what way is my position ridiculous?

i asked why my work had been used with out telling me ? simple

Exploring the darkness, this is the modern world. Plagiarism is rife and is something you're going to have to accept if you post stuff in public on the internet.

Ultimately you have legal recourse if you want to take it. Sue kids for damages. In a court. Oh wait, that won't be possible for obvious reasons.

So I guess you just have to take it as it comes.

Nice photo though.

in what way is my position ridiculous?

i asked why my work had been used with out telling me ? simple

You again. You’ve got around this week haven’t you, asking for your work not to be posted and demanding revisions in descriptions of what you do on other forums. Yes you sound familiar, I’ve seen you before.

Exploring the darkness, this is the modern world. Plagiarism is rife and is something you're going to have to accept if you post stuff in public on the internet.

Ultimately you have legal recourse if you want to take it. Sue kids for damages. In a court. Oh wait, that won't be possible for obvious reasons.

So I guess you just have to take it as it comes.

Nice photo though.

Is this plagiarism though? the author of this picture was clearly referenced. This means in my mind he has done nothing wrong other than share a good picture - what a load of nonsense this is!

You again. You’ve got around this week haven’t you, asking for your work not to be posted and demanding revisions in descriptions of what you do on other forums. Yes you sound familiar, I’ve seen you before.

where have you seen me before ?

A quick summary:

chap 1, an amateur snapper, takes photo after gaining access to roof top 'without permission'.

chap 1 uploads said photo onto popular photo website where most people are happy to share their photos provided its not for commercial gain and they're properly credited.

chap 2 sees a rather good photo and shares it on an internet forum, without any commercial gain and he properly accredits it, but doesn't ask permission as there is no clear indication that they can't be shared.

chap 1 gets the hump that someone is promoting his photo, that he got without the proper permission, without his permission. and has a good whinge.

chap 2 and many other a bit baffled as no harm was done or intended.

no plagiarism, no ones out of pocket, no one gets hurt, chap 1's quite good photography gets noticed by a few more people. storm in a tea cup. the end.

Criminal trespass perpetrator asks for his referenced pictures to be removed when hosted with sharing option set to active.

Brilliant

Devils Advocate.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTX234V5Y_OJ4sbJ9czCXCbIuQnql8E0iPZ3A0yIh8ehWUIKb3UFw

A few weeks ago I saw my arse because an architectural practice used one of my Pictures of the Wakefield Street Tower on their website without asking me first. No credit was given either.(jrb)

Not long after seeing my arse somebody from the practice took the time out to join the forum and promised to credit the photos/photographers.(inc other SSC forum members) Fair play to them.

As a rule my photos can be used by any idiviual, as long as it's not for gain. If my pictures are being used by a business to promote it directly or indirectly, I would at least like some credit for the privilage. If they'd prefer to send me a big fat cheque, all the better. :)

The thing is.

If you want a individual to ask your permission first before using your pictures, either state it above or below the picture, and/or, add your contact details. Don't just post a picture on a forum and not expect it to be used/posted on another or similar internet forum/site.

Like you and many others on SSC I go all over the city centre taking pictures. I've lost count of the vanatge points and car parks I've found and been on/to. If I'm challanged as to why I'm taking pictures near the said point, I've always explained myself. 9 times out of 10 that's enough to get to where I want and what I want. If it isn't enough I leave. End of.

Apologies to Explore The Darkness for implying in my post that he may have broken into premises to take pictures.

He has informed me via PM that he hasn't.

PS. Above posted edit.

You think they were allowed into the central library site at night and to go up on the scaffolds without hard hats?

^^Its all bollocks mate. They’ve been on other forums this week ‘correcting’ people, and saying that they are not breaking in, but instead teleporting in. They’re just covering themselves and saying that trespassing is different, and that teleporting in is not an act of ‘breaking’ in. It might well be, I really couldn’t care less.

Yeah, he didn't "break-in" i.e. physically break his way in, but it was trespass jrb. Very conniving isn't it? As I say I don't have a problem with this sort of trespass per se it's just the fact that he wants respect for his intellectual property created on those visits on the one hand when he shows blatant disregard for others' property himself in creating it.. it is unbelievably obnoxious and concieted.

To be honest though he had already lost me when he said flange was "using" his pics, fs :bash:.

You think they were allowed into the central library site at night and to go up on the scaffolds without hard hats?

?

He said 'he hadn't broken in'?

Play on words?

I've given him the benefit of my doubt, hence the apology.

Perhaps he would like to expand and explain how he get's into these places without breakng in?

Yeah it is just a play on words. He's definitely an urban explorer look at some of his other rooftop pics and the comments underneath them.

Yeah it is just a play on words. He's definitely an urban explorer look at some of his other rooftop pics and the comments underneath them.

have i ever said im not an urban explorer ?

PM sent again.

'Define breaking in'. (define sending a pointless PM)

You got your apology.

Now do one.

have i ever said im not an urban explorer ?

You're an idiot.

Same guy, so much better
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6928897793_8017a24b5d_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7185/6782776852_684da3cfd8_b.jpg

Messing about.

If Manchester city centre, Salford Quays and Salford were one shot, it would look something llike this.

Boom!

http://i.imgur.com/bdjYb.jpg

So your right eye's got extra zoom? :P

Refreshing viewpoint:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pollylew/6927034625/

Manchester Skyline pics on a role ATM.

Nice to see Wakefield Tower making an impact.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/6791842700_5c13bd5c1d_b.jpg

The new COOP HQ making an impact.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6931941361_3fca605242_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6785812472_57a4e88438_b.jpg

Excellent photo I'd love an apartment round there.

Is that taken from the abandoned tower project thingy on Great Ancoats St?

Top pix you found there JRB

here some taken from the Millenium tower

http://www.rookiekamerawerk.com/2011/02/millenium-tower-salford-quays.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m15aOeCfXH0/TVSh6Y5JmfI/AAAAAAAAA4Q/sJLiHVzTGM4/s1600/P2086876e.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zuI6x_Vm__4/TVSh4GwpCbI/AAAAAAAAA4I/yquPUaEpfr4/s1600/P2086867e.jpg

^^^Great pics and views^^^

More from the same website....

http://www.rookiekamerawerk.com

From Tempus tower

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-2pP-poCME0/TS0U8u1draI/AAAAAAAAA2c/YG34Xr7xRy8/s1600/P1026658_stitch.jpg

From city gate

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-2pP-poCME0/TBVUbT_CmMI/AAAAAAAAAjo/nBozeB_0qVc/s1600/P6034793+edit.JPG

Hail the slab.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/images/episode/b00z1z5n_640_360.jpg

:master:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z1z5n

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/6800308498_49bd7b0472_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iancarroll/6800308498/)
Stormy Manchester (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iancarroll/6800308498/) by Caza_No_7 (http://www.flickr.com/people/iancarroll/), on Flickr

no one gonna have a go about how hes roof topped with out permission ;)

No, because its not from a rooftop, its from the 18th floor of City Tower :D :D :D

no one gonna have a go about how hes roof topped with out permission ;)

You really are special aren't you?

the tempus tower one is from the roof for sure :D

Well then it must be down to the reason I was too kind/polite to mention last time:

They're not whinging numpties who don't mind others enjoying their photography

Lol.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6953046409_813f4528f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6953046409/)
Salford Precinct Tower Blocks at Night (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38655193@N05/6953046409/) by Irwellian (http://www.flickr.com/people/38655193@N05/), on Flickr

It's big! Scroll>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)

I spy with my...............

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21913923@N03/6955971205/

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6955971205_2d780b46f2_o.jpg

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/YLAup/DSC00712.jpg

After a quick visit to Manchester yesterday, I've decided that my favourite skyline view of the city is when approaching from Bury New Road. There are a good few factors that make it look impressive from this vantage point, the main one being that the Arndale and City tower/CBD are raised up, and very imposing. North tower and Tempus being at the foreground make them good contributers, you have the wheel spinning around and the CIS, Co Op and the Lighthouse adding to in the background, Beetham is clearly visible but not taking all the glory. It is one of few times you get a condense cluster that allows you to appreciate the heights of the midrises in the city.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a camera :(

Got to be taken from the Town Hall.

Great shot.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6841137128_b743d00c39_o.jpg

Anyone got any new shots of Salford Shopping Centre tower? I want to see if they've changed or taken down the red name sign.

It's an other jrb beast, taken from Flickr.

Wakefield Street and the new COOP HQ are in full view.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6835461708_eb546df069_b.jpg

Scroll>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6835461708_da02a422b1_o.jpg

^^

Where's that taken from? Ancoats?

Anyone got any new shots of Salford Shopping Centre tower? I want to see if they've changed or taken down the red name sign.

I went past it on the bus tonight and it looked unchanged

Just posted it on the City Talk thread, hence the Twitter.

Boom tastic!

CBD slightly left. Piccadilly Tower straight ahead. New Wakefield Street tower to the left.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/7017140241_bc0af7a9f0_o.jpg

Beetham GNT to the left. Spinningfields/CJC straight ahead. Mediacity/Salford Quays in the distance.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7136/7017141001_0de5a85a40_o.jpg

CBD in your face. Cis Tower and COOP's new HQ far distance. Manchester wheel/Arndale Tower ahead.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7040/7017140655_77e614594e_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sue_langford/7017140655/in/photostream/

^^^Great pics^^^

pics too much big!!!

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5464/6896690618_b06bbf7932_b.jpg

I stayed at my mates in the Bailey a few weeks ago and woke up to that view. Lovely stuff. :)

SO........MANYYYYYY......SCROOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLSSSSSS!!!!

Place North West.

http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/assets/_files/cached/img/402x326.625/apr_12/pnw__1335194502_Middlewood_Locks.jpg

Jrb is the large area of grass in the fore front Middlewood Locks? I am more than certian it is.

Jrb is the large area of grass in the fore front Middlewood Locks? I am more than certian it is.

It is Neil.

Cheers jrb!!!!!

http://www.athernet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/manchester_pano_1.jpg

The left of that photo is brilliant. Canal, mill chimney and look how well integrated the court looks with the warehouse buildings on canals street. Whats the ugly 60’s build backing on the the car park? Thats a future redevelopment site right there.

The left of that photo is brilliant. Canal, mill chimney and look how well integrated the court looks with the warehouse buildings on canals street. Whats the ugly 60’s build backing on the the car park? Thats a future redevelopment site right there.

Westminster House on Portland Street.

Well it should be squashed like Elizabeth House. That’s where a big iconic sculpture should go.

Well it should be squashed like Elizabeth House. That’s where a big iconic sculpture should go.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SiA_UGC8DNw/S7y_EEgnZPI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/s5FMDnWxLdw/s1600/The-B-of-the-Bang-Manchester.jpg

Imagine this in the middle of town. :drool:

That, but in cobalt blue.

I’m wet for a big iconic sculpture now. Just want some class architect and backers to come along, plough a stinker of a building to the floor and pitch up a dock off sculpture, that’s not a effing wheel.

It would look as shit in the middle of town as it did on the edge of town.

interesting view from Longsight

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philedmonds/7128881635/lightbox/

Same view from a few years pre Beetham (labled april 2006 but Beetham was up then)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philedmonds/7064655005/in/photostream/lightbox/








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Boom!

Wakefield Street.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7261/6998777396_79606193d7_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6998780886_d08c0c4198_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7001999196_42051d575c_b.jpg

Hav it!

Photomerged 3 seperate pictures from your man.http://www.flickr.com/photos/jandnphotos/7001999196/in/photostream/ Hope you don't mind?

http://i.imgur.com/E6h7I.jpg

Nice pix Jrb

That last one is a facking cracker mate.

Can anyone crudely draw in ONESPQ in to that shot on paint to see its potential massing effect?

Thank you for merging my photos - it is great!
Jdphotos

Thank you for merging my photos - it is great!
Jdphotos

Hi.

Thanks for coming onboard.

Like I said, hope you don't mind?

Cracking pictures that man. :cheers:

Hi.

Thanks for coming onboard.

Like I said, hope you don't mind?

Cracking pictures that man. :cheers:
Fantastic jrb! What software do you use for that?

Fantastic jrb! What software do you use for that?

Adobe Photoshop Elements 8. Think it's at 10 now.

They've improved the photomerge no end compared to earlier versions.

However, it's still not perfect on certain photos.

TBF that came out well. Didn't expect it to be that good.

Adobe Photoshop Elements 8. Think it's at 10 now.

They've improved the photomerge no end compared to earlier versions.

However, it's still not perfect on certain photos.

TBF that came out well. Didn't expect it to be that good.

Thanks for that, will check it out. :)

I am not biased, I'm from the East Midlands (born and raised), just wanna say, I LUV MANCHESTER, hands down my fave British City. That's all! :cheers:

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City tower needs a twin (in size that is, certainly not in looks) just looks far too isolated for its location.

Some cracking aerial shots at the start of the video.

http://vimeo.com/42123170

taking my new DSLR out at the weekend (if the weather holds); any top vantage points for a skyline opportunity?

taking my new DSLR out at the weekend (if the weather holds); any top vantage points for a skyline opportunity?

Shudehill Car Park

Car Park on the corner of Upper Brook St & Booth St East

Car Park on Higher Cambridge St across from the Dental Hospital might offer good views although I haven't been up there myself

Car Park at Exchange Quay. Best to get the Metrolink out to Exchange Quay

Car Park at the Lowry Mall

Car Park at Kendals

Heaton Park Hill

A580 at Irlam's o'th' Height

Queens Road, North Manchester (or Collyhurst Area)



Happy snapping!

North Manchester Golf course is good for fairly long range although not sure if the public can get in.

North Manchester (Harpurhey, Miles Platting, Collyhurst etc.) is the best place for a skyline shot in my opinion.

http://images.webcams.travel/webcam/1303290779.jpg

Webcam link: http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/1303290779-Weather-Manchester-centre-ville%2C-vue-des-bureaux-de-LateRooms.com-Manchester-City-Centre

180 degrees from Piccadilly Place by Andy Marshall

http://360.io/VAWBwM

^^ Even better a 360 version of it.

http://360.io/Byc4Z4

If someone has a good camera and a good lens, Pestfurlong (sp?) Hill in Birchwood, Warrington has an awesome view from Manchester.

http://www.2eimages.co.uk/places/birchwood/pestfurlong/1581.jpg

This is zoomed though, so it looks further away than that.

taking my new DSLR out at the weekend (if the weather holds); any top vantage points for a skyline opportunity?

Hartshead Pike, see link :)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=70414919&postcount=2731

View From Werneth Low towards Manchester-Time Lapse

http://vimeo.com/42770616

Close up of the Manchester skyline from Alderley Edge on this fine day, the new additions to Manchester fitting in so well.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5629/alderleyedgewoods26thma.jpg

And then full on panorama.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5629/alderleyedgewoods26thma.jpg

Stunning!

Love all the trees in the foreground! Great photos

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/YLAup/DSC00779.jpg