http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/a2-photoFull.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/b2-photoFull.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/c2-photoFull.jpg

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http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/f2-photoFull.jpg

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NAME: The Sails
LOCATION: Durban Point
STATUS: U/C
FLOORS: 14, 11, 11, 10
HEIGHT: 42m - 50m
USE: Mixed Use (Residential, Retail, Commercial, Hotel and Conference Centre)

This is the largest dev in the first phase of Dev at the point. it consists of 170 apartments, a 85 suite hotel, conference centre, 1500m2 commercial space, 2500m2 retail space, 6F of parking (2 underground).

The hotel operator is Legacy Resorts (they run the Michelangelo hotel in Sandton).It will be a 4 star hotel.

Construction Update September 2005

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/sept2005prgrs/img0004.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/sept2005prgrs/img0005.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/sept2005prgrs/img0006.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/sept2005prgrs/img0003.jpg

the jury is out on this one, seems too busy for my likeing and its trying to be too many things with its architectuer. A smaller version of Hibernian tower

I love it. :) Its great to see so much diversity in architecture coming to Durbs, in Cape Town all the new developments all look the same IMO. I do wish it were a bit higher tho......

I must point out that changes have been made to the images that i have displayed above. Alot of the over the top detailing has been refined and lines have been made alot cleaner and not to busy. They have also added one extra floor to the main section of the building.

But the glass side, with the convention and business centre is my favourite part of the building, and they have left it rather unchanged, but added a bit more glass.

Cant put pics up cos i dont have them, but so as i do i will :)

i actually like this building its modern but different as a future architect i lov the ideas

sounds like improvement to the disgn is good. Cant wait to see it when Im back

its going to be huge! It will also be the last dev to be completed in this the first phase. All will be complete by Dec 2006

This is one update i'm sure you're going to like!

The main section of the building is now 10F and 43m.

The Drum is 11F and 43m (this is the parking structure and has 3 levels of apartments, it is separate from the main structure...does it count as its own building for emporis?)

The Sails hotel is the big news! It is 14F, 50m and is confirmed to have 65 suites.

so all in all we have alot more buildings to add to the durban tally on emporis :)

im on to it buddy, thanks
let me get this straight there are 3 buildings in the complex (which means I create a new complex for it), 1 building is the Sails hotel @ 14F 50m, 2nd building is called the drum? and is residential? and 11F 43m and the 3rd building is also residential? and 10F 43m.
This means Durbs gets 3 new U/C buildings on Emporis.
Any new renders ? Ill add the old one in the mean time

The Building is in 3 parts.

The largest being the main section which has 150 apartments. The drum forms part of the main structure, but is a separate building, accessed by sky bridges on certain levels from the main building. its primary use is as a parking garage, but the upper floors house 30 apartments.

The hotel is also separate, but conected to the parking structure via skybridges too on the lower floors. All three form The Sails, but are 3 free standing buildings!

No new pics to give sorry! But when i get i will post. they have cleaned the lines up alot and it looks alot better.

The building also use biometric scanning for access, and does not use keys at all!

Retail stores include a Moyo, Calvin Klein, Carlton Hair, Primi Piatti, Hilton Weiner, Charles Greig Jewelers, Fego cafe, Benidorms, Translucent and Ridal Wine and Cigar bar

fark, when I was there the only stores in the point there were meths, weed, Es and Lions from the shabeen

any revised renders as these are the old ones?

nope i cant get hold of them in digital form. Will try get the printed ones and scan them. It has really grown, for the pics we have are only 7F.

The detailing on the hotel has also been refined and alot more glass is used on the side with street frontage. It is basically a 10F glass wall on a 10F open atrium. V impressive.

Will get store details for other buildings asap

The Sails site as of 1 October 2005

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/oct2005prgrs/6.jpg

what crane is that in the background by thirstys?

that crane is for the underground tunnelling that is going on. they are building 2 tunnels under the harbour, one for services (elec, water, cables), the other will be a pedestrianised one to take people to the bluff headland, which is to be developed with a luxury hotel and shops/restuarants and the Africa Peace park. there will be a way up to the top and the millenium tower (which already has a public viewing deck). the views of the city will be amazing!

Update pics: 1 November 2005

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2005prgrs/Photo1.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2005prgrs/photo3.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2005prgrs/photo6.jpg

All piling is complete

Update: 1 December 2005

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/dec2005prgrs/Photo01.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/dec2005prgrs/Photo03.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/dec2005prgrs/Photo05.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/dec2005prgrs/Photo06.jpg

These pics are a bit old...this was the site in early January...

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2006prgrs/photo1.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2006prgrs/photo2.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2006prgrs/photo3.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2006prgrs/photo4.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2006prgrs/photo5.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2006prgrs/photo6.jpg

stocks building them. The Quatys behind must be close to completion guaging from these pics?
I think we need a mini point photo update anyone?

was that a not so subtle hint to get my ass down there?

any new renders of this as those I think are the older lower ones?

as i have said 100 times....i cant get new ones, cos they have not released them to anyone. all they have is the scale model showing the new height

Update:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1283.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1285.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1272.jpg

Looks cool, the surroundings are great too.
But it doesn't look like 8 floors.

thos are the old renders...it is actually 3 buildings in the Complex. two are 11F and the hotel is 14F

^^
Aha, well, the higher the better right;)?

true :) I just wish i could have new renders!

me too

April Update:

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/Apr2006prgrs/1.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/Apr2006prgrs/2.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/Mar2006prgrs/3.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/Apr2006prgrs/4.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/Apr2006prgrs/5.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/Mar2006prgrs/6.JPG

Update: May

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/May2006prgrs/01.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/May2006prgrs/02.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/May2006prgrs/04.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/May2006prgrs/05.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/May2006prgrs/06.jpg

Update:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1528.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1524.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1508.jpg

Does this place go down to a -2 ? or does it just have one basement?

-3 actually from what i was told

Does anyone know what the cylindrical structure is in picture 2? I saw it the last time I was there but couldn't figure it out.

It is the core of the "CONE" which will hav apartments on the one side and be the car lift to the different parking levels on the other...interesting building to look at due to all the odd components

The only new image i have found, but this is only the front canal facing block

http://www.businessday.co.za/mscsthumbnail.aspx?refId=3185&refRef=mm

July 2006 Update look at it now!!

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/july2006prgrs/Timeball%20Square.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/july2006prgrs/Signal%20Road%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/july2006prgrs/Escombe%20Terrace.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/july2006prgrs/South%20East%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/july2006prgrs/North%20Eastern%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/july2006prgrs/Northern%20View.JPG

looking good, looking good.

regards to that car lift, is it in the cilyndrical thing, or is it seperate?

Thanks for posting. Does anyone know the anticipated completion date of this project?

completion is july 2007

thanks for the updates dysan..things seem to be moving along well...looks like they have a chance of finishing before july next year,

August update...

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/aug2006prgrs/Escombe%20Terrace.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/aug2006prgrs/South%20East%20View.JPG

Amazing how such turgid pedestrian architecture gets you guys hot.
The septic excuse for a canal was suposed to add value, the Point
is overrated and under deliverred in terms of design, sorry, but to date
its a failure, no street life, no vibe, and probably slow sales now that the dream is a reality.

Amazing how such turgid pedestrian architecture gets you guys hot.
The septic excuse for a canal was suposed to add value, the Point
is overrated and under deliverred in terms of design, sorry, but to date
its a failure, no street life, no vibe, and probably slow sales now that the dream is a reality.

U gonna share those grumpy pills with the rest of us??? :scouserd: :runaway:

Biatch is back again I see :D

sheesh looks like burgerboy is picking up where enigma left off.
Mate if you dont like it then dont go there, if you dont like this site and cant add value instead of trolling then fuck off cos Im getting sick of your trolling at the moment.
I personally dont like this but its development and progress from the shit hole that the point was, thats adding value numbnuts or incase you havent learned that at school yet its the what happens when a masterplan is evolving and being developed over stages.

Do yuo truly expect "a vibe and people on the street" when only 3 of 16 developments are complete?

You dont seem to like ANYTHING. My word i wldnt be surprised if u never found a chick cos she would battle to please u too i;m sure...or put up...

Ok, I didnt realize that this was a support group for ex Durbabnites I thought there might be some interest in discussing design, both urban and architectural at a more critical level,
SA BOy, you obviously know dick about either, and thats why you live in a place like Dubai.

Woah everyone calm down!

QuarterPounder, I realize that you have some real concerns about the development, but you shouldn't be so negative. It helps, when trying to generate discussion, if you say something positive, or atleast invite people to discuss with you.

Anyways, back to the development...

Ok, I didnt realize that this was a support group for ex Durbabnites I thought there might be some interest in discussing design, both urban and architectural at a more critical level,
SA BOy, you obviously know dick about either, and thats why you live in a place like Dubai.
Hey macburger

which town/city u from?

looks alright, I guess.

Ok, I didnt realize that this was a support group for ex Durbabnites I thought there might be some interest in discussing design, both urban and architectural at a more critical level,
SA BOy, you obviously know dick about either, and thats why you live in a place like Dubai.
Mate you have no intrest in design and come to troll, every single post of yours is the same .

I know more about design and archietcture than you will even my little friend cos I probably the only on in this entire website who has developed a 300m plus tower, never mind the $10 billion worth of projects I have been either the development director or senior project director , so dont bring words from your text books and get clever trying to show off.

Have some humility and be respectful of this site we have built from scratch. Be critical where its warrented and supportive where its needed and for your information I am not an Ex-Durbanite, I simply go where my work takes me.

So get off your little podium and contribute or fuck off , We have had many little tossers come here and either they played nicely,pissed off or were banned, its your call

Seeing that I never reply to Cheeseboi's first comment, let me do so.
First of all, we are not getting "turned on" by the pedestrian architecture, its just nice to see such broad walking area's that dont have vendors selling fruit & veg on it.

Your comment about the canals, every major city that has a water front or that lies on the coast, has these canal villa's or water front developments, why cant we?
The canal adds a nice touch, if it doesnt tickle ur arse, then dont make ur problem our's, because majority ( & thats most of the people not only the forumers) like the idea of the canal's it adds a different atmosphere to the place.

The Point is not over rated, its just marketing, how the hell are you going to sell something if you dont market it properly? shoes how much buisness sense you have.

Designs of many of the projects maybe abit stereotyped, but thats the typical design style you going to see thru out, u cant have a Taipei 101 next to a Taj Mahal now can you?

How can you say the place is a failure & have no vibe if the place is not complete as yet? (As Dysan pointed out) Thats like saying Burj Dubai is crap, when they obnly 35% comnplete. As for the sales, you know nothing, I am busy with 4 major projects in the point, Point Bay & 1,17 being two of them, both of these are almost sold out, with just 2 or 3 units left, Point Bay is goign to start in a few weeks time & 1,17 is awaiting design changes because the client wasnt happy with the original design. As for my other 2 projects, sales are going well.

I think you just bitter because you probably an engineer or architect & you dont have a finger in these developments..............shame

Well played DB.. The problem I have with most developments at the Point is that they lack activity at street level, this is the result of poor masterplanning that does not replicate the urban vitality of traditional cities and allows the creation of parking podiums that dominate the streetscape. The other issue is that the development is too dispersed and therefore it will take ages to get precincts that have a sense of "completeness" , and yet had the council drawn a line at Bell st and cleaned up the streetscapes with paving, planting and painting from day one, (and add policing )the
Point could have been far closer to an authentic harbour precinct.
As for SA Boy...grow up.

^^ oh my...

How can you say most developments in the point lack activity at street level? do you actually look at and analyse these development at all or are u simply talking out your ass? EVERY single development, bar Dockpoint and EastPoint have at least groundfloor retail. In total there is close on 25 000m2 of retail space in the current crop of developments. now how can that not create a street atmosphere once complete? Strike 1

Too dispersed? hmmm...when each and every development in phase one are on sites directly abutting one another? Where, come July next year, the whole of Timeball square will be a near completed precinct with 9 developments within 100m? hmmm...yes the 30F+ skyscraper area is futrther away, but they are on land that was NOT owned by the Durban point committee and the city, hence they are not in the durban point development framework plan for precinct rollout. So Stike 2

had the council drawn a line at Bell st and cleaned up the streetscapes with paving, planting and painting from day one, (and add policing )the
Point could have been far closer to an authentic harbour precinct.

Hmm...Well if i am not mistaken, the streets have all been done up and i think the many photos i have taken and posted will show this. The CCTV camera's and renewal have all but elimanated the crime and grime from the development precinct.Strike 3

As for your comment to Giles (SABOY), that just shows your intelligence or lack thereof.

While you may feel that we are a "pat Durban on the back society", you are completely deviod of any factually based argument to support any of your broad swipes and accusations.

You have yet to positively comment on anything. Do you hate everything about Durban? Because that is the narrow minded impression that you give. If your sole ambition is to talk about things you obviously dont have enough knowledge of and make critical statements based on no factual or reasonable summation, then i dont understand the possible reason you are here.

You talk of disscussion on a critical level, but show no sign being able to do so yourself. We welcome new people with contributions that encourage people to think, however so far none of yours have any validity whatsoever. I could understand if you just didnt like this development, or even the point. But you dont like umhlanga and u dont like the stadium...i am just wondering if you like anything at all??

well said mike, Burgerboy obviously knows something about deisgn and or planning but fails to actaully add value to his posts. We are all critical of each of these projects and there has been a fair amount of catfights in here over the years but its done in a constructive way.
Please feel free to tell us about yourself in the intro thread and tell us why you hate every project in Durban and what you feel is a good project (if one exists at all).

And if you still think i know nothing then check this thread out as it was my last big project I worked on before taking on my new roll out of 40 hotels over 8 years in 16 countries, not bad for someone who knows dick??
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=9570009#post9570009

Thats nothing, I was busy with Spice Emporium in Durbs, now thats a big project ;)

did you get some mother in law? hotest farking curry power this side of bombay.

That is the shit. Auntie Premraj next door gives us some every now and then and probably revels in the sight of us choking to death...except my dad, who will beat any chaarro in chilli and spice tasting, the man is freaking wierd

lol, auntie premraj, "u got an aunty in the curry buisness"
Nah all we got from spice emporium was free coconut milk!

Mike is there any updates in the form of pics or renders for these cos on Emporis I have no pics or renders.
Listed under U/C
5. Sails Hotel 50 m 14 2006
6. The Sails Building 1 43 m 11 2006
7. The Sails Building 3 43 m 11 2006
8. The Sails Building 2 43 m 10 2006

well...i can can go take some, but the buildings are all SO close together that i dont think i will be able to distinguish them separately at this stage

a more hi def render.

The hotel is on the right that i started a separate thread for.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/CopyofSailsApartments_PerspsceneDay.jpg

October Update:

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/oct2006prgrs/Timeball%20Square.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/oct2006prgrs/Signal%20Road%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/oct2006prgrs/South%20East%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/oct2006prgrs/Escombe%20Terrace.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/oct2006prgrs/Timeball%20Avenue.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/oct2006prgrs/Northern%20View.JPG

November Update...rising nicely

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2006prgrs/timeball-square.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2006prgrs/signal-road-view.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2006prgrs/south-east-view.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2006prgrs/timeball-avenue-view.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2006prgrs/escombe-terrace.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/nov2006prgrs/northern-view.jpg

Just some updated renders too

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/gallery/sails1.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/gallery/sails2.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/gallery/sails3.jpg

January 2007 update

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2007prgrs/Timeball%20Square1.jpg

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2007prgrs/Signal%20Road%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2007prgrs/South%20East%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2007prgrs/Timeball%20Avenue%20View.JPG

http://www.durbanpoint.net/images/jan2007prgrs/Northern%20View.JPG

Nice updates... thanks!

awesome, looks big.
any chance of a mega point update? spinnaker, mast etc

Uh, why are they worker's on that site??? dont the builders only get back to work this week :?

^^ its like the umhlanga sites that have been working during the whole builders off period....they dont stop cos they have very strict time frames to work in

Giles, Spinnaker is scheduled for completion later this year (according to developers). Construction on the Mast is beginning March 2007 (according to the developers, as reported recently in the media). Construction on San Raphael is scheduled to begin 1st quarter of 2007 (according to developer's website).

^^ its like the umhlanga sites that have been working during the whole builders off period....they dont stop cos they have very strict time frames to work in

........oh, I hope they were'nt working @ Point Bay too, coz if they did, Im in big shit

these pics are 3/4 months old, but show the internal courtyard

http://www.pwr.co.za/secure/images/173994e8eb.jpg

http://www.pwr.co.za/secure/images/985a2b798f.jpg

http://168.144.146.174/_imagedata/issues/843949669599/timeball%20(4).JPG

Construction Review

December 2007


Located in the coastal city’s Durban Point Waterfront precinct, the recently completed Sails on Timeball is a showpiece of consummate luxury and style.

At 19 584m2 the Sails mixed-use facility, is Durban Point Waterfront’s foremost development in size and value. At R250 million (US $36m), it comprises 170 luxury apartments, 20 retail shops and restaurants, 550m2 of office space and a 280--vehicle parkade. In addition, construction of the five-star luxury Sails Hotel at the north end of the development will commence next month. Other resident friendly facilities include a voluminous communal indoor swimming pool, recreational area, gymnasium, coffee shops, boutiques, launderette, travelling agency and even a crèche for busy parents.

Distinct buildings
The development is divided into three buildings: The Crescent, The Drum and The Gallery. The Crescent has a retail component on the ground level; one level of parking and six levels of residential accommodation equating with 105 apartments. The Drum comprises of four levels accommodating 12 apartments over a vehicular ramp, which gives access to the parking levels below. The Gallery features three levels of parking, a retail component on the street level and four levels of residential providing a total of 52 apartments. Central to all these buildings is a large exposed public courtyard that is landscaped with water features, palm trees and pedestrian bridges. The courtyard offers a “café society lifestyle” with the restaurants spilling out into a peaceful garden area that the restaurant staff will use to enhance an opulent, yet serene ambiance while serving patrons.

All three blocks of apartments feature a mix of one-bedroom, two and three-bedroom units. Each apartment is finished with lavish designer choices ranging from polished porcelain tiles to fully-fitted kitchens and Bosch appliances. Located on the top floor are immaculate penthouses, each with a private landscaped and grassed roof garden, portable gas grill and a private swimming pool or Jacuzzi.

The Sails Hotel
Hospitality is furthered by The Sails’ residential blocks attachment to The Sails Hotel linked via walkways on the lower levels. Collaboration between inVeno Hotels and Baseline Design Studios in Johannesburg resulted in a design for this truly remarkable contemporary building, which epitomizes the central theme of blending luxury with passion while optimising the utilization of space.

Servicing both the corporate and leisure segments of society the 9-storey hotel will consist of 114 deluxe rooms, a roof garden, a double volume reception area, 12 exclusive club floor rooms, meeting and event rooms as well as a popular coffee shop. A unique aspect of the main restaurant will be its specialised food selection. The cuisine, which will exclude any pork products, will be a fusion of Middle Eastern, Northern African, Asian as well as South African foods. Aside from not serving any pork products, the hotel will not serve alcoholic beverages or allow their consumption on public premises.

Interior design elements will truly reflect the truly contemporary theme of a 5-star hotel. Amenities such as plasma/LCD televisions and Dolby Digital equipment will be standard as well as the immaculate in-room fittings, which will leave guests and visitors with a lasting experience of having basked in style and luxury.

will scan pics of it, when I get my magazine next year.

We don't have to wait until next year for some exclusive pics. Below, what the development is currently looking like from the inside (courtyard, roof garden, apartment interiors). Looking very, very nice, in my opinion. Once its fully occupied by Old Mutual and retail outlets (restuarants etc), this building will be a very nice place to stay and visit. Will quickly become a favourite at the waterfront.

Now, onto the exclusive photos (a special thanks to the PWR agent who took me around :) )

Overview

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-124.jpg

The elevated pool overlooking the courtyard

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-129.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-128.jpg

The courtyard and bridges in more detail

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Clipperfinalday017.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Clipperfinalday018.jpg

Now for stunning roof gardens...

Spiral staircases leading up

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-130.jpg

The dip pools on the roof (there are several of them!). Now how sweet is that view???

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-131.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-134.jpg

Now for the inside of an apartment

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-017.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-019.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-018.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-016.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/ja65sin/Dec1-015.jpg

ah Jerome, awesome pics! the apartments look stunning. The view from the top is unbelievable! & that pool on the balcony is soo cool. Looks like they gonna have a canal in this place as well.