Crowngate,,,This is going to be a huge mixed use development by Dandara,,,it's going to be situated on the land they aquired facing St George's church on the Chester Rd roundabout,,,remember that link jrb found a few months ago saying that a 750,000sqft of development was planned for there...the link
http://www.************/dandara_brochure.pdf

Well look what's on the hoarding's thats surrounds the new HQ for Dandara,some serious development or what,,,and it contains a tower :)









http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/manchesterpics9aug006.jpg

At last! A curvy tower!

That link is fucked ,,,but if ya go on google ,type crown dandara,,,you'll find it



CAW ,could you change the title to Crowngate, i put fuckin Castlegate like a pleb :)

Good work Highrsier!

Another tower for Manc! :)

Knew it all along, like most of us did!

It had to be somthing big and tall for that area, considering the amount of land available!

Looks like the 10-20 proposed towers is slowly coming true! Exciting times ahead for Manchester! :cheers:

Thats the old Dandara PDF! Seen it before! Theres no information about Crowngate in that PDF!

From that basic render its roughly about 25 storeys!

jrb,,,its called Crowngate,,,i made a mistake

looks good, the area around chester road and beetham is going to be be very dense.

Can anybody work out if the tower fronts Chester Road, or am I pissing up the wrong tree? :)

I'd say between 28-30 storeys meself.. We need curves! Anyone be able to do a mass of it on the skyline, I'm not familair with this area to be honest.. Also I'm I getting this confused with the Chester tower or whatever? (that was curved too :s) where does everything relate to each other?? :S help! lol

Tower looks about 25 floors max.

I *think* this development must be the area of land above the roundabout on the right of this image:
http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/manchester/mf17.jpg

Left of that roundabout you have Citygate. Just above that, where the canal bends, is where 2-4 Chester Road will be. The 20 storey ASK Tower will be just across the road from this on the site of the grey roofed building with blue walls. Towards the top right you have River City, Hill Quays and the Southern Gateway. At the very bottom of the image is where St. Georges is going, and off the bottom is Vie.

And I expect a developer to do something with the warehouses/car parks in the bottom left of the photo.

Looks nice. Thanks highriser.

That's superb location, will work wonders with Beetham from there... You know it just seems more and more likely with each new development that Manc could end up with a single cluster, lol... If taller buildings dotted up from there near to Portland, it would join Beetham and co up Eastgate.. Superb if it eventually happens.

Interesting but i wouldnt rely on that old image :)

Come on Subtract, spill.

ha ha knew that would invoke a response, im saying i wouldnt rely on it as it might be different, who knows? :)

different in a more kick-ass way I imagine?? Surely you can tell us that much!! Not askin for much, just give us somet ya big tease!

Aw cocktease, it's bigger!

remember bigger is not always better as 2-4 shows, that part of town is going to look great i think and be a great gateway into the city as a statement 'this is manchester'

if im honest thats the first time ive seen that dandara render from them

Huh. That bigger one in Leeds is better.

Why though? just because its big? i like 2-4 because of its size and all of the facets plus its purely residential situated in a great area with great views of castlefield, Leeds is completely different to be honest

Sulk.

He's right though. Given the 2 proposals, I'd much rather have 2-4 sitting by Castlefield than some huge twin towers. Don't forget, 2-4 has been around for years now. West Central was probably just a twinkle in IS's eye so I highly doubt we're getting something bobbins. This was approved before we even heard of Beetham. Considering how the designs evolved, I can't wait for 2-4 to start. Mincing around Castlefield will be quite a lovely experience once it's up. The mish mash of buildings (citygate, 2-4, warehouses, that fancy dan bridge and the old viaduct that the metro goes over) will really make the area one of the most beautiful spots to live in England. I reckon anyway.

Interesting but i wouldnt rely on that old image :)
Come on Subs you know were on the trail,,is the the ISA spectacular ,that is going to over shadow the Citygate apartments,you hinted at a few months back?

I do recall seeing a similar render to this a while back. Subs is now saying this is out of date, along with his comment that Citygate will be 'overshadowed', I can deduce that the tower has in fact been increased to 70 storeys. ;)

ha ha well its the only way forward!

Ive seen something else thats all, it looked better than that so that must be quite old and i dont remember seeing a 70 storey tower!

And i cant remember where i saw it sorry

united utilities were diggin up pipes right next to the department of employment building today, perhaps in preparation for the demolition?? ;)

Different thing danny.

The Crown Building/Albany Assets tower is the one you're thinking of. This is something else, something which is pretty much visionary right now.

ok; sorry was just in a bit of a rush last night

Is there a pic of this I tried a few PDF's off Google to no luck, I walk past this site when I walk into town (over Hulme Bridge past the 3M site).

Theres no pic of it yet mate,,BITN said last week we should hear something about this in November,he heard that from the Dandara party a couple of weeks ago.

2 Renderings of Crown, showing what the top of the tower will look like! (looking at it from Piccadilly Basin)

Erm, probably wrong, but I don't remember seeing them?!(the rest of you probably do?)

http://www.iansimpsonarchitects.co.uk/site/main.htm

wrong thread, this is the one opposite castle quay by dandara don't forget!!!

As I said a few posts above, this is Crowngate Tower, not the Albany Tower.

I'll just change the thread title to stop this confusion.

I think this belongs here. Thanks to jrb for this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0788.jpg

:yes:

..edited

..edited

Very interesting model , looking forward to hearing more about this one. :)

Confused?!

I was told this was the Chapel Warf development? But I can't see how a development of this size would fit in to that small parcel of land? Either way, its Chapel Warf or Crowngate! BITN will know!(don't shoot the messenger!)
More pics to come!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture041.jpg

:runaway: :runaway: :eek2: :eek2:
Looks identical to the model that supposedly was crowngate.

Wow mega. That looks like it's 56 storeys tall.

Looks like London´s Columbus Tower.

The other pics!

I'm lovin that, how tall?

OOOh yes please.

wow! top project!

I went onto the Dandara website and looked at their corporate brochure pdf page 8, and the site resembles their 750,000sqft "Crown Street" project. It's the wrong shape for Chapel Wharf.

This link won't work but change dendara to dandara and then it will.

http://www.dendara.com/about_dandara.html

Putting Birmingham to shame, Nice tower

I went onto the Dandara website and looked at their pdf brochure pdf, and the site resembles their 750,000sqft "Crown Street" project. It's the wrong shape for Chapel Wharf.
Its better than a square box.

Putting Birmingham to shame, Nice tower
You're really asking for it there, but I'm going to refrain... :colgate:

WOW That is FANTASTIC cant wait.

That will make for a superb gateway. We are looking several years into the future here though.

Any ideas who the architects might be? Obviously this is just a visionary masterplan at this stage, not a million miles conceptually or physically from Southern Gateway.

That will make for a superb gateway. We are looking several years into the future here though.

Any ideas who the architects might be? Obviously this is just a visionary masterplan at this stage, not a million miles conceptually or physically from Southern Gateway.

No later than 2010, and people are already working behind the scenes on this one, more to follow lads !

No later than 2010, and people are already working behind the scenes on this one, more to follow lads !

So it is Castlegate and not Chapel Warf as I thought!

BITN! Can you tell us the proposed height, if nothing else?

Apparentely the MD of Dandara was there today? Thats why I had to be discrete with the camera! :)

andysimo: the site, not the building. The site is the wrong shape to be Chapel Wharf.

Things are hotting up round here again. Just when you think the amount of new developments have levelled out, BANG, you're hit with designs or proposals for even more. Lets hope some of the older proposals (Eastgate etc) start construction now, then when they near completion these new proposals might have started constuction! :cheers:

That is a beauty. Thanks for the pics jrb.!

BITN: Not asking you to post them up, but are there any renderings knocking about that could be posted up in the near future, and have you any idea of the height/storeys? Cheers!!

Interesting one!

Not the Dandara scheme, but very close to it!

Rang the planning office this morning, planning officer not in yet! Will get some more info afterwards, height, etc!
What with this, Crowngate and Simpsons wonderful glass building across the way! We will have another wonderful entrance into the cityt centre!

See ya Tom! :wave:

City Centre Ward 077114/FO/2005/C3 20/10/2005 Tom Garner Site Chester Road/ Deansgate/ Owen Street And Great Jackson Street City Erection of a mixed use development of three buildings comprising 210 residential apartments (Use Class C3), business use (Use Class B1) and a multi-deck car park and landscape and public realm works

Interesting one!

Not the Dandara scheme, but very close to it!

Rang the planning office this moring, planning officer not in yet! Will get some more info afterwards, height, ect!
What with this, Crowngate and Simpsons wonderful glass building across the way! We will have another wonderful entrance into the cityt centre!

See ya Tom! :wave:

City Centre Ward 077114/FO/2005/C3 20/10/2005 Tom Garner Site Chester Road/ Deansgate/ Owen Street And Great Jackson Street City Erection of a mixed use development of three buildings comprising 210 residential apartments (Use Class C3), business use (Use Class B1) and a multi-deck car park and landscape and public realm works

You beauty!

Info!

Residential, 16 storeys.
Office, 8 storeys.
Car Park. 7 storeys

Devlopers. City Lofts, Ask, Prudential.

Architects. Aedas.

Is this just proposed at the moment? Anyway it should be decent quality, same architects as 201 Deansgate and Rossetti Place

Thank you once again jrb, you veritable gold mine of golden nuggets you!

Good News! I assume it's this one.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad1.jpg

Also a nice scheme :)

Should look nice next to Dandara... Shame about the flats across the way though, they shouldve made more effort with them.

http://www.hosted-fabermaunsell.com/visionfm/images/article/2-4%20CR03.jpg

opposite

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad1.jpg

Bring them on!!!

Forgot about that too, this will be a great entry into town :-) Shame the old Quay Bar is looking so shabby.

I'll try and nip to the planning office this week, with my friend! :)

Its funny that theyve incorporated the board advertising the Dandara Scheme into this rendering isnt it?

BTW does anyone know if that old building is being incorporated into the Dandara Scheme at all?

I really hope something happens in the land between this and River city too, esp that horrible 3M factory.

Thanks for that jrb, it's about time Ask started one of there proposal's .The Chester Rd area is going to be a hive of activity with this ,2-4 and Dandara's developments all expected to start in the next year :)

http://www.hosted-fabermaunsell.com/visionfm/images/article/2-4%20CR03.jpg



http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad1.jpg

It's lookin good, and and from the opposite direction.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad3.jpg

However don't think these are the final renders. Didn't jrb's post mention 16 storeys; this is more like 19. Whatever happens, hope they follow the the overall design concept that is shown here, I really do like.

Ah haaa, thanks jrb. So this is the mystery Citylofts development "near Deansgate" that was maybe mentioned in the Conran interview.



Residential, 16 storeys.
Office, 8 storeys.
Car Park. 7 storeys

Devlopers. City Lofts, Ask, Prudential.

Architects. Aedas.

City Centre Ward 077114/FO/2005/C3 20/10/2005 Tom Garner Site Chester Road/ Deansgate/ Owen Street And Great Jackson Street City

Erection of a mixed use development of three buildings comprising 210 residential apartments (Use Class C3), business use (Use Class B1) and a multi-deck car park and landscape and public realm works



Are you sure the architects are Aedas though? Here is an extract from the interview with Chief Conran architect, Philip Thornton, from the MEN a couple of weeks ago.



.......WHEN Sir Terence Conran chose Manchester as the site for his first Habitat store outside London in the 1960s, it dispelled the myth that "them up north" were clueless when it came to cutting edge design.

These days the Conran name can be found all over the city and Conran & Partners, the architectural side of the business, is behind some of Manchester's most talked about buildings - some complete and others about to start.

Chief architect on these ambitious schemes is Philip Thornton, a laid-back Lancastrian, who has lived in London, New York and Berlin and thinks Manchester ranks alongside those great cities when it comes to urban style and cool.

He bundles into a taxi for a whistle-stop tour of sites and points out that, while Conran & Partners are synonymous with bold new design, the firm's love affair with Manchester began with the conversion of the former BT Interchange at 25 Church Street into 78 apartments and a health club.

Breakthrough

Next door, 38 High Street was one of the first experiments in new-build in the city and was hailed as a breakthrough in urban design, thanks to its black, terracotta and zinc exterior.

At Piccadilly Basin they created Vantage Quay with its distinctive purple brickwork, steely-grey balconies and massive slatted timber screen. There were queues when developer City Lofts launched it and was one of the fastest-selling developments in the UK ever.

They are currently working on another City Loft's scheme down at Salford Quays next to The Lowry, which will have Britain's tallest timber-clad tower - due to be completed in June 2007 - and are in discussions with the same company about another site near Deansgate.

And Thornton is currently working on the detail of the Northern Quarter's most startling building to date, the redevelopment of Pall Mall House at the back of Debenhams........


Hmmmm. Somewhat consusing. I wonder if Aedas are architects for the office portion with Conran designing the residential tower?


http://www.askdevelopments.com/images/viewprojects/chesterroad2.jpg
CITYLOFTS / ASK CHESTER ROAD (DEANSGATE) DEVELOPMENT RENDER 1

http://www.askdevelopments.com/images/viewprojects/chesterroad1.jpg
CITYLOFTS / ASK CHESTER ROAD (DEANSGATE) DEVELOPMENT RENDER 2

http://www.askdevelopments.com/images/viewprojects/chesterroad3.jpg
CITYLOFTS / ASK CHESTER ROAD (DEANSGATE) DEVELOPMENT RENDER 3

Where does this proposal sit in relation to the Dandara Crowngate model? Must be near neighbours?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture042111111.jpg



PS We could really do with the Southern Gateway thread resurrecting with all the activity of late.

Are you sure the architects are Aedas though? Here is an extract from the interview with Chief Conran architect, Philip Thornton, from the MEN a couple of weeks ago.

Yep! According to the planning officer!

Well like I say, maybe Aedas are the architects for the office portion with Conran designing the resi tower which would still be consistent with the article.

I doubt that Citylofts are involved in two projects on Deansgate.

Well like I say, maybe Aedas are the architects for the office portion with Conran designing the resi tower which would still be consistent with the article.

I doubt that Citylofts are involved in two projects on Deansgate.

Why don't you give the planning office/officer a ring Sleepy?!

It's lookin good, and and from the opposite direction.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad3.jpg

However don't think these are the final renders. Didn't jrb's post mention 16 storeys; this is more like 19. Whatever happens, hope they follow the the overall design concept that is shown here, I really do like.


At last it doesnt look like the world ends at the Knott Pub, the City Centre is expanding nicely. Loving this

Where does this proposal sit in relation to the Dandara Crowngate model? Must be near neighbours?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture042111111.jpg



PS We could really do with the Southern Gateway thread resurrecting with all the activity of late.


Correct me if Im wrong, but this thread said this was Chapel Wharf,

But aint Chapel Wharf round The Lowry Hotel/Edge Area? Not Chester Road

No, that model is Crowngate, the subject of this thread.

Matey that model is of Crowngate , just off Chester Rd, there was a bit of confusion the other week , but this is definatly NOT Chapel Wharf .

Cheers people


:cheers:

Good boozer in Knotts Fringe/End/Landing to watch these go up though eh (joining the effervescent Atlas)?

Ive just realised Crowngate seems to face torward the city centre not away from it, almost staring Beetham in the face (or more realistically looking over Castlefield)... I guess this will give the look of the city centre officially stops here.

Some of you will be dissapointed, some of you will be pleased! But one thing is for sure! Its nothing like the original rendering what so ever! :wink2:

Spit it out then!

Well?

Whats your first impressions, thoughts?

Looking from Castlefield!

More images and information to come!!

My first though was that it looks like a University Building. Reminds me of the main Salford Uni Building. Not a good thing.

First impression: some second rate Sixties council block from the "Before" part of a Before & After picture.

Quick. Somebody please tell me that is not a mark2 version of this:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad1.jpg

Well?

Whats your first impressions, thoughts?

Looking from Castlefield!

More images and information to come!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture019.jpg

It's horrible. Surely it's not replacing this, is it. Or I am getting confused - hope so !

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/2-420CR03.jpg

Little confused here is that instead of this??

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad1.jpg

Then thats a major disappointment.

I don't like to be negative, but it does looke dated and to be honest, not really the sort of impact/gateway bulding that the previous design represented. I loook forward to further images....

Perhaps Simpson's Twin Diamond towers will lesson that impact?

When you see the other images you might change your mind!

The development consists of 3 different buildings! 2 residential, 1 office!

The tower is 15 storeys and the office/residential about 9!(lost the paper with the info) There will be an open space aswell(trees, courtyards, etc)

The cladding is a mixture of copper, meshed steel, glass, wood, sandstone, etc!(very nice)

Yes its another box, but its different again! Note the slashed windows! Which most of us like! (MIB, Picaddilly Place)

A bit of Moho, Mib, Timber Warf, RBS, all mixed together! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0188.jpg

looks like that big estate in the centre of Sheffield.

i like it :)

It's horrid, a total hotchpotch. Sorry!

or the Elephant and Castle

http://alexander-fleming-house.wikiverse.org/media/e/e9/alexander_fleming_house.jpg

Don´t think it looks too bad. But still feel it´s a let down compared to the earlier version.

i like it :)

Spot on Kids!

Why does every development have to be glass, tall and uniformed! (This will come via Dandara)

No one moans about Moho, etc! This development will essentially be the same!

Why does every development have to be glass, tall and uniformed! (This will come via Dandara)

They don't, but they shouldn't look like they have been put together by a five year old let loose with a box of stickle bricks either. I'm gaining a serious dislike for this developer.

or the Elephant and Castle

http://alexander-fleming-house.wikiverse.org/media/e/e9/alexander_fleming_house.jpg

Issac! Its nothing like that! :bash:

It's very Erno Goldfinger

Big letdown in my humble opinion. Mayve it would look good in Ancoats but this isnt the place for it.

Might have looked good in Ancoats in about 1960.

jrb: I'm confused and concerned. Is this a new version of the Dandara Chester Road 750,000 sqft scheme replacing that beautiful glass curvy tower?

Frightening Similarities

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2001/09/06/trellick1.jpg

Might have looked good in Ancoats in about 1960.

jrb: I'm confused and concerned. Is this a new version of the Dandara Chester Road 750,000 sqft scheme replacing that beautiful glass curvy tower?

Yep!

Looks like me and kids are in the minority! I like it! :)

Remember this is Castlefiled! Apart from 2-4, all the other residential developments/office are similar in shape! Nothing wrong with that, as long as the development(apperance and cladding) are quality!

More renders!

jrb: I'm confused and concerned. Is this a new version of the Dandara Chester Road 750,000 sqft scheme replacing that beautiful glass curvy tower?

No. The 15 storey thing is for the Tom Garner car showroom site which is basically next to the 750,000sqft development with 40+ storey. It is indeed replacing the initial design. :(

And the other project mentioned in this thread, 2-4 Chester Road, is across the road from Tom Garner. And it was recently redesigned to this:
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/17802-4ChesterRoad_pic2.jpg

Is this what its replacing?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/chesterroad1.jpg

Yep! :)

Is this what its replacing?

Yes. Total madness!

Groan. The replacement reminds me of Michael House.

http://www.connellbrothers.co.uk/mands.html

Only it's worse. My eye wants to sleeken the roof and straighten all those wibbly windows.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture011.jpg

Compare and contrast with:

http://www.broadwaymalyan.com/bmalyan/dms/36CBA278D7D4B704BAD4E2020AB23AA2.jpg

Oh well

View from Deansgate!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture020.jpg[/QUOTE]


From this angle it's starting to look a bit more interesting. Maybe it will compliment / set off the diamond shaped towers on the other side. Whatever the the outcome were in for interesting times ahead in this part of town.

I'm not sure, its not as modern looking as the previous design but if the cladding is quality it won't look out of place, it could turn out nice.

Groan..
Aspirations to mediocrity.
Wouldn't look bad on the Slough Industrial Estate but in an up n coming European City Centre?
Will compliment nearby CityGate and Badway schemes :sleepy:

Just to reiterate what Caw has said as there seems to be a bit of confusion.

THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DANDARA SCHEME AND SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS THREAD.

It is however the Ask Developments scheme which is pretty much adjacent.

Here is another view of the proposed development and a bit of blurb. Im not impressed with what I see.

http://www.property-week.co.uk/Pictures/web/y/s/b/45_p81_central_station.jpg

Ask to sell individual offices in Manchester Property Week

11.11.2005

Developer launches concept to sell rather than lease city centre offices


Note that this is only a proposal thus far. Im sure people can make comments to the planning department on this application if they are not happy with the design. You will have to be quick though.

What? how can you say this is crap, the area will have loads of gleaming glass tower (2-4, crowngate) why not go for something different. It's class, IMO, looks alot like the new design for 3 piccadilly place. We'll have Crowngate round the corner, whats the need for a smaller version when we can have a bit of variety, come on people.

This view would be totally obliterated when 2-4 is built

http://www.property-week.co.uk/Pictures/web/y/s/b/45_p81_central_station.jpg

In my opinion it's a take it or leave building really, i much prefer the original design, this design does not warrent a place fronting onto Chester Rd, it would be much better set back a block on the Owen St carpark.

The Crowngate scheme is would be just at the bottom of this picture. The new post by JRB (The ASK scheme) is going on the Tom Garner garage, bottom right of this picture. Maybe someone with a graphics package can throw a few arrows onto this picture to highlight the affected areas:

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/manchester/c8692.htm

http://www.property-week.co.uk/Pictures/web/y/s/b/45_p81_central_station.jpg

Hmmm two big slabs. It looks both modern and retro. They don't seem to sit very well together and I don't see where the promised open space comes in (did you get a shot of the plan view jrb?).

I do feel that the curved, sloping nature of the taller residential block of the previous version seemed to work well against the Chester Road-hugging lowrise block. It just seems much better proportioned and the different masses and textures worked well. Now the blocks dont seem to bear much relationship to each other and the higher rise block is now much longer and slab-like. Disappointing. Perhaps they make sense in the context of the wider masterplan for the area??

FROM THIS........


http://www.askdevelopments.com/images/viewprojects/chesterroad3.jpg







TO THIS..........


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture020.jpg

Anyway, this is all in the wrong thread. I'll start a Southern Gateway thread to collect all these projects together.

Couldn't they have moved the Maths Tower here instead (as with Sinclairs Oyster bar - brick by brick), hey presto - similar/cheaper option.
Understand there may be subtle qualities a la Moho, but that Deansgate View screams Stockport Merseyway shopping centre Car Park to me.

Can't warm to this building at all. It's either an architect who is trying to be too retro brutalist or is just completely crap at his/her job. It's about as interesting and stylish as the mess opposite the Library - Elizabeth House. It looks like some of the worst 1950s slabs put up in Birmingham or Plymouth after the war. It's awful. Would be ignored, because of all the other great buildings that will be surrounding it, but what a shame to waste the Peugot site. The Peugot garage has more merit architecturally. I very much doubt the City fathers will allow this pile of shite to be built.

Good spot!

Wrong thread!

Correct heights! Tower, 15 storeys, office block, 8 storeys!

It's hideous. The architect probably studied here:

http://www.gamblingstudies.salford.ac.uk/assets/MaxwellBuilding.jpg

Design cue.

Shitty design change.

^^ I actually prefer Weasty's University of Salford building.

Great, a design with some flare...turned into a box, cos we don't have enough already

Great, a design with some flare...turned into a box, cos we don't have enough already

The first design did have flare - it was great. Can't imagine the logic of swapping this excellent first design for this piece of shit. I just don't understand??!!!

I think the newer design looks much better, the old one was just a typical lump of glass, the shape was quite interesting but come on, glass cladding is the laziest, dullest cladding there is. It looks souless and boring. The new desing may be a box, but at least it will be descently clad, and has 10 times as much charachter as the old design. Your typical back to back has more charachter and charm than the old design. Ugly ugly ugly.

aye aye skopie, i totally agree with you :)

Thats 3 now! :)

Thought I'd have a butchers at the Dandara office today incase there where any new renders or models on display. Unforunately there was'nt. However, the Crowngate model had been moved next to the main window, so I thought a few more pictures of the proposed tower would get the juices flowing again! This time the pictures are a lot clearer then the previous ones!

Come on BITN, when are you going to give us some information on the Crowngate development? :)
I clearly remember you saying you were going to give us some info very soon. That was a few months ago! :rant:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00148.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00149.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00151.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00152.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00153.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00154.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00150.jpg

Good things will come to those that wait Mr JRB ,,there was a few hint's in BITN's last post, something that is going to be released on the 5th,,lets hope its somethings to do with this aswell as Chapel Wharf :)

Good things will come to those that wait Mr JRB ,,there was a few hint's in BITN's last post, something that is going to be released on the 5th,,lets hope its somethings to do with this aswell as Chapel Wharf :)

Friday it is then H!

An announcement/article via the Dandara website, MEN, or MCC Planning apps?

Friday it is then H!

An announcement/article via the Dandara website, MEN, or MCC Planning apps?

Oh please dont call me H , people might think im that TWAT from Steps :)


But yeah, im very confident BITN is not talking bullshit, we will find out soon enough :)

Any news on this 'startingly similar to the central spine bbc trap'?
Along with the 1HS project, we could see a couple of gorgeous looking towers that jumped ship before the box mould was applied (not that there's anything wrong with our current boxes but we need to smash that particular pattern up somewhat).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00150.jpg

Has BITN packed his bags?

Any news on this 'startingly similar to the central spine bbc trap'?
Along with the 1HS project, we could see a couple of gorgeous looking towers that jumped ship before the box mould was applied (not that there's anything wrong with our current boxes but we need to smash that particular pattern up somewhat).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/DSC00150.jpg

Has BITN packed his bags?

I doubt BITN will be back Northy? Similar to the Subtract situation. It's a shame their employers exert such confidentiality pressure.

Wrong thread.

:sly:

:)

Interesting little piece in the Property Investor and Homebuyer Shoe Magazine.

Dandara Concept.

These apartments are not found within a conventional building site setting or plush completed city centre apartment scheme, but in a former warehouse located on a industrial area on the edge of Manchester's city centre - adjacent to Castlefield.

On a site which Dandara has plans to develop onto a mixed-use gateway scheme in the future.

I don't think we will see the proposed Crowngate development rise for a long time yet? This warehouse will probably be used to showcase the Chapel Wharf tower apartments as well? Unless BITH knows any different of course? :wink2:

Anyone else notice all the Dandara banner's that are around one of the building's on this site ?

Anyone else notice all the Dandara banner's that are around one of the building's on this site ?

been there a while now

At last some news.

Should cheer up those of us who can be bothered with the Manc forum anymore. (then again)

Detailed planning application to be submitted summer 2007. (Won't hold my breath) Let's hope it's similar (height wise) to the model below. Info below.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/348667239_b5cddde874-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/crow.jpg

Will be interesting to see how the scheme has evolved, the slightly blobby look to the tower in that model always looked awkward to me.

Also interesting to see the Grt Marlborough St scheme there, didnt realise that had planning. Was quite keen on the look of that one, but does show a lot of blank wall to the platforms at Oxford Rd Station.

I hope the design doesn't change much, if at all. It'd really silence the 'Box critics' if this beaut was put to planning! Anyone like to guestimate the height?!

Would be a good site for a 150m+ tower quite clost to Betham we could do with some good news for a change this forum has become quite stagnant recently, hopefully thats because things are being planned but i fear that developers are expecting a property crash soon and don't want to throw their money away.

Well, luckily, this is next to the Owen St Tower proposals, which itself is a stones throw from Beetham and Central Spine. This part of the city, along with Greengate and Media City will be a flurry of cranes soon! :)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/jcg/PICT2529.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/jcg/PICT2532.jpg

^^ Should be good when hulme and the city join.

^^ Should be good when hulme and the city join.

Hulme Park is going to be buzzing I feel, if done right

Its staggering to think of the change over the past few years, Just imagine that view only 5 years ago, what was there? nothing, carparks and a few derelict buildings. I'd love to see a year 2000 shot and compare.

Hulme Park is going to be buzzing I feel, if done right

Yup with 9 millis whizzing part your ears yup :lol:

Nothing going to happen for another two years atleast on one of Dandara's Car parks visible on the photograph below.

Extension of permission for temporary parking use (ref 068508/FU/2003/C3) by an additional 18 months

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/selecteddoc.aspx?080311-DLP-0001.pdf

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/manchester/mf17.jpg