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mynamesnotdave
August 12th, 2005, 04:22 PM
Hi,

I work at the University of Manchester and everyday, I look out and see the scaffolding growing around the Maths tower. Its taken about 8 weeks to get to this stage. I've become increasingly intrigued about how they are going about the demolition on a day-by-day basis. What process are they using? Do they simply demolish layer by layer from the top?

http://www.tsy.co.uk/mathstower.jpg

dgnr8
August 12th, 2005, 04:25 PM
Aye, it'll come down from the top, little by little. Welcome Dave.

caw123
August 12th, 2005, 04:29 PM
Welcome dave.

Now that they've removed all the asbestos they'll probably go in with jackhammers and drills etc, smashing walls to bits and stuff. One possible method is that all rubble will be dumped down the lift shafts so it can be cleared away by guys at the bottom.

Accura4Matalan
August 12th, 2005, 04:29 PM
I'm no fan of the Maths tower, but that is a sad sight :(

ferge
August 12th, 2005, 04:35 PM
it is a sad sight, thats why its being demolished :P :D

skit_uk
August 12th, 2005, 04:43 PM
Hell Dave

Since you work at the uni do you know what any plans are with Owens Park tower?

There have been many rumors over the years as to when/if it's being demolished.

bundy
August 12th, 2005, 04:51 PM
Construction News 14/04/2005


The Maths Tower at the University of Manchester is one of the city's tallest buildings and one of the least loved.Now, thanks to local demolition firm Connell Brothers, it will soon be subtracted from the skyline.



THERE is no small irony in the fact that a building that has stood for the past 36 years as a hotbed for the study of some of the most complex equations known to mathematics should be consigned to history by a simple act of addition.

It was the merger last October of the University of Manchester and UMIST to form a single university that signed the death warrant of one of the city's most famous yet least cherished landmarks.

The unsightly design of the Maths Tower on Oxford Road is said to be based on that of a slide rule. But, like the slide rule in an era of calculators and computers, the Maths Tower has become obsolete.With £300 million to be spent revamping the campus over the next decade, the tower site has been earmarked for redevelopment.

The responsibility for bringing down the tower has fallen to Connell Brothers, a firm with a CV dotted with high-profile jobs in the city.

Following the IRA bomb in the city centre in 1996, the firm brought down the Marks & Spencer store that bore the brunt of the blast. Since then, it has also knocked down the iconic Hacienda nightclub and flattened former Manchester City ground Maine Road last year.

Yet the Maths Tower project might presents the firm's largest challenge to date.Not only is it the 18-storey, 75 m-tower the tallest building ever demolished in the city, but its irregular profile means that scaffolding the building is a trial in itself.

Add to this the obvious issues of working at height and the fact that the demolition has to be carried out slap bang in the middle of a campus of more than 30,000 students without causing any disruption.

Site manager Mick Dowling explains: "At the moment things are quiet because the students are away but in a few weeks, when everyone comes back, it's going to be a lot busier.We're going to be paying special attention to the minimisation of dust, vibration and noise.We want people to be able to work and think without our disrupting them."

The team has been on site since December but, other than a couple of banners on the sides of the tower and some demolition work on a low-rise building behind the main tower, you wouldn't know it was there.

"Pretty much everything that isn't concrete is taken out during the soft strip, " says Mr Dowling."First of all, you take the ceiling tiles down and the aluminium runners that they are hanging from.You also take out the door casings, architraves and skirting boards - everything you can.The more you rip out now, the less you have to deal with once the building is down."

This is because as much material from the building as possible is expected to be recycled, including the timber, which is processed into chipboard.The concrete is also recycled for use as aggregates. But this relies on good segregation of material.

Mr Dowling says: "If you leave the wood in there, you only have to pull it out of the concrete debris before it is fed into the crusher. Better to pull out one 3-m piece of timber than try to separate it once its been broken into hundreds of 30-cm pieces."

Once the soft strip has been completed and the asbestos teams have given the building a thorough clearout, the whole building will be scaffolded.Using a mobile crane, three 3-tonne mini diggers will then be lifted up to the top floor of the tower and will be used to bring it down floor by floor.

"They will be equipped with hydraulic breakers and shear attachments for cutting rebar.They will work from the roof down, crunching the concrete and then dozing it into the lift shafts.There will then be another machine in the basement that will be used to take the material away and sort it, " says Mr Dowling.

Once the tower has been reduced to around 30 m from ground level, it can then be attacked by larger, ground-based plant. Long-reach excavators with pulveriser attachments will be used for the final stretch down to ground level.

The removal of a concrete ramp that joins the Maths Tower to the neighbouring Kilburn Building presents a more delicate task.As the ramp is attached to the Kilburn Building, the team will have to first construct a new scaffolding access ramp, then detach the old ramp by hand to avoid damaging the Kilburn Building.Only once the team has worked the ramp back around 3 m from the building will it be able to go in and pull down the rest mechanically.

As the nerve centre for much of the university's computing power, the Kilburn Building offers a second test to Connell Brothers.The ground surrounding the Maths Tower is dense with telephone and fibre optic cables, as well as gas mains and other services. Since a 90-tonne excavator is to be used as part of the project, it was vital that a full audit was carried out to relocate service ducts that could otherwise have been damaged, potentially knocking out computers across the campus.

But, having notched up around 10 major demolition projects in and around Manchester city centre, Mr Dowling is confident his team is more than capable to meet this and any other tests, bringing the tower down on schedule in August.

"Each time we do one of these jobs, we learn a little bit more.Our last job was the Eagle Star building. It had the Metrolink running past it, so that was a new thing to learn.Most of the lads on site are long-term employees, so they've worked on many projects and have learned these lessons."

So with the knowledge the firm has built up and the possibility of a further £300 million to be spent on the campus development, this may not be the last time Connell Brothers' sums add up for the university.

Clearing the asbestos

ALTHOUGH the Maths Tower has less asbestos than many buildings of its era, Connell Brothers is taking no chances during its demolition. Before the firm set foot on site, a full asbestos survey was carried out, which pointed out all the likely risk areas.All workers have also been trained to spot further material that may have been missed during the survey.

On site, the main threat comes from Artex, which sometimes contains small amounts of white asbestos. It has also been found in bulkheads above windows in the tower and in fire doors.

The firm has its own specialist asbestos removal team, which is currently picking its way through the building, rooting out the problem.

Its first task was to make the whole building airtight, sealing any possible vents airborne asbestos fibres could escape through.Once the building was sealed, a single point of entry was established in the tower basement.Only trained asbestos operatives can go through this tent-like entrance that maintains a negative pressure, sucking back into the building to prevent any escape of material.All the workers wear full PPE, including chemical suits, masks and gloves. Each man also has a backpack that provides him with filtered air while he is working.

"Any asbestos found is sealed in a taped-up bag, " explains Mick Dowling."This bag is then placed in a second bag, which is also taped shut."

These bags are then placed in a sealed skip that only the workers have keys to access, further reducing the risk of fibres escaping into the atmosphere.When the skip is full, it is taken away for specialised disposal by a registered hazardous waste firm.

caw123
August 12th, 2005, 05:03 PM
Interesting. First time I've seen a height for it, 75m. It's our tallest demolition by far.

Hell Dave

Since you work at the uni do you know what any plans are with Owens Park tower?

There have been many rumors over the years as to when/if it's being demolished.

That's staying.

skit_uk
August 12th, 2005, 05:53 PM
Hell Dave

Since you work at the uni do you know what any plans are with Owens Park tower?

There have been many rumors over the years as to when/if it's being demolished.


Ooops

Didn't mean to take your name in Vain Dave

Farsight
August 12th, 2005, 06:52 PM
Thanks for the pic Dave, and the info bundy.

Sigh.

mynamesnotdave
August 12th, 2005, 09:27 PM
Cheers for all the info, it really interesting and answered a lot of questions.
There's rumours every year that they are going to pull down Owen's Park Tower. One I heard when I lived there 5 years ago, is that it needed re-wiring, and it would be cheaper to pull it down than rewire it.....not sure there is much truth in that though!

dgnr8
August 13th, 2005, 12:20 AM
From what I understood, Owens Park was a certain for demolition but somebody somewhere along the line had a change of heart. Somebody on here posted this.

Jongeman
August 13th, 2005, 04:16 PM
I wasn't aware that the Maths Tower was so unpopular. I've always liked it, mainly because it pinpoints the university from the train into Piccadilly. It was like a token highrise southern extension of the city centre.

It'd be great if Manchester Uni had a small cluster of towers in this area.

DUBAI
August 13th, 2005, 09:56 PM
apparently owens park is staying, they were gonna pull it down, but the fallowfield campus is in too much debt at the moment.

but it is getting an update. the rooms will now have this new fangled Internet thing. *shock horror*

im a student btw!

2020
August 14th, 2005, 01:02 AM
i thought they were still rebuilding some of the low rise, renovating other bits, but keeping the tower for the time being. that was the word in student direct a few months back anyway.

i think OP is ok how it is, just needs a bit of modernising and a few licks of paint here and there. after all, there is no point building luxury accommodation for first year students - i was too off my head in the first year to know where the hell i was most of the time! :drunk:

dgnr8
August 14th, 2005, 01:24 AM
Somebody just clarify this up for me. Let's say we're stood with our back immediately to the far end (from town) of the Waterhouse Uni building. You've got that road that cuts between the mix and match chemistry (?) building straight on to Upper Brook Street with Kro2 etc on your far right and Maths tower on the far left of the massive green space. Now, am I right to believe the Nursing (and all that guff) building will replace the Maths tower and the AMPS building will sit on the left side of that road that leads to UBS (Almost North East from the Maths tower)?

The whole Unity masterplan confuses me greatly.

Farsight
August 22nd, 2005, 07:33 PM
Yes. There's a plan somewhere with all the buildings in pink. Maybe it was on the website?

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/

I reckon The University of Manchester are confused too, with some kind of 19th century backward-looking vision that involves destroying iconic buildings like the Maths Tower. As an alumni, I'll damn make sure my children don't go to Manchester. I ain't chipping in for the Maths tower to be replaced by some low rise world class rip off shed. Or contributing to the sort of University where modern high rise student accommodation doesn't exist because it's not our responsibility and they can piss off to some bedsit in Didsbury. And don't I just know that the people behind all this will fuck up and fuck off to Oz or whatever. Aaargh!!!!!!!

Sorry, I was thinking the MIB looked dreadful from the South side, and it got me annoyed again.

andysimo123
August 22nd, 2005, 09:55 PM
If only they would do the same to city tower and its little hotel friend, those two crapy hotels at the end of deansgate and also that yellow block called the arndale and then replaced them with special sleek buildings. Then we would have a truly cracking skyline.

SleepyOne
August 23rd, 2005, 01:32 AM
http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/MMU1.gif42dbc4107e711.gif

Imagine yourself hovering over 'Czech Bar' Higher Cambridge St looking over the university campus. You can clearly see the new cross cutting pedestrian route running from Oxford Rd, alongside the new Student and Nursing Centre (on the site of the Maths Tower) through the new AMPPS buildins and out onto Upper Brook St.

As for the old Maths Tower, well its losing height rapidly now. Surely won't be long until that brutal old thing has finally gone.

SleepyOne
August 23rd, 2005, 01:33 AM
Somebody just clarify this up for me. Let's say we're stood with our back immediately to the far end (from town) of the Waterhouse Uni building. You've got that road that cuts between the mix and match chemistry (?) building straight on to Upper Brook Street with Kro2 etc on your far right and Maths tower on the far left of the massive green space. Now, am I right to believe the Nursing (and all that guff) building will replace the Maths tower and the AMPS building will sit on the left side of that road that leads to UBS (Almost North East from the Maths tower)?

The whole Unity masterplan confuses me greatly.

http://www.mcaslan.co.uk/upload/MMU1.gif42dbc4107e711.gif

Imagine yourself hovering over 'Czech Bar' Higher Cambridge St looking over the university campus. You can clearly see the new cross cutting pedestrian route running from Oxford Rd, alongside the new Student and Nursing Centre (on the site of the Maths Tower) through the new AMPPS buildins and out onto Upper Brook St.

As for the Maths Tower, well its losing height rapidly now. Surely won't be long until that brutal old thing has finally gone.

andyains
August 23rd, 2005, 01:55 PM
I wasn't aware that the Maths Tower was so unpopular. I've always liked it, mainly because it pinpoints the university from the train into Piccadilly. It was like a token highrise southern extension of the city centre.

The Maths Tower seems to split opinion evenly between the likes and the don't likes. Before we lost umpteen threads, there was a good Maths Tower thread which included a poll. I remember that voting was split almost 50:50, although I think it was generally accepted that its design was impractical and that it had to go and be something a bit more user friendly.

Farsight
August 23rd, 2005, 07:19 PM
I imagine most people wouldn't have minded if there was some other iconic building that would put the University on the map, the skyline, and the picture postcards.

The big deal issue is that their 21st century vision seems to involve demolishing all highrise. Have a browse at the website and see if you can see a lot of old stone.

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/

pookey
August 28th, 2005, 02:19 PM
Today

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/pookey1967/mathstower.jpg