Medan City, the Gateway of Sumatra [Archive]

Blue_Sky

August 14th, 2005, 05:44 PM

Medan, Indonesia

Medan is the capital city of the Sumatera Utara (North Sumatra) province of Indonesia. It is located in the north of the province, at , and has a nearby harbour, Belawan, and an international airport.

Officially Medan's birthdate is 1 July, 1590.

Demography
The city is Indonesia's third most populous after Surabaya and Jakarta, with approximately 2.5 million people. Compared to (Capital and largest city of Indonesia; located on the island of Java; founded by the Dutch in 17th century) Jakarta, the city might seem a little provincial, as it lacks most of the glossy Western skyscrapers and shops.

History
Medan's embryo was a village called Kampung Medan (Medan Village). Kampung Medan was founded by Guru Patimpus around the (Click link for more info and facts about 1590s) 1590s. Because Kampung Medan sits on Tanah Deli (Land of Deli), Kampung Medan is also referred as Medan-Deli. The original location of Kampung Medan is an area where the River of Deli meets River Babura.

The first inhabitants of Medan came from the Batak Karo community. It was not until the King of Aceh, Sultan Iskandar Muda, sent his warlord, Gocah Pahlawan Laksamana Khoja Bintan, to be the Kingdom of Aceh's representative in Tanah Deli, that the Kingdom of Deli started to grow. This growth stimulated growth in both the population and culture of Medan.

Medan did not enjoy vast development until the (The decade from 1860 to 1869) 1860s, when the (The West Germanic language of the Netherlands) Dutch colonialists began clearing the land for (Leaves of the tobacco plant dried and prepared for smoking or ingestion) tobacco plantations. Medan quickly became a centre of government and commercial activity, dominating development of Indonesia's western region.

The Dutch governed Tanah Deli from 1658, after Sultan Ismail, ruler of the Kingdom of Siak Sri Indrapura, yielded some of his once-ruled land, Deli, Langkat, and Serdang. In 1915 Medan officially became the capital of North Sumatera Province, and officially a city at 1918.

Places
There are many older buildings in Medan that still retain their Dutch architecture. Some buildings are: the old City Hall, Post Office Center, Water Tower which has been Medan City's icon, and Titi Gantung - a bridge over railway.

There are several historic places such as Maimun Palace and the Great Mosque (Masjid Raya) of Medan.

The newest food court in central of Medan city is Kesawan Square. Many kinds of Indonesian, Western and Chinese cuisine become special interest.

Transportation
A uniqueness of Medan is its motorized becaks found almost everywhere in Medan. Unlike traditional becaks, a motorized becak can take its passenger to anywhere in the city. There are also more common transport like taxis and minibuses.

Railroad tracks connect Medan to Tanjungpura to the northwest, to port of Belawan to the north, and to Binjai, Tebing Tinggi and Pematang Siantar to the southeast.

The seaport of Belawan is about 20 km to the north. Polonia International Airport is located in the heart of the city.

A tollroad connects Medan to Belawan and Tanjungmorawa. Medan–Lubuk Pakam and Medan–Binjai are being planned.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/m/me/medan,_indonesia.htm

Blue_Sky

August 14th, 2005, 05:50 PM

City view
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/cityview.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/cityview2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/cityview3.jpg

hypermount

August 14th, 2005, 05:50 PM

Blue_Sky

August 14th, 2005, 05:51 PM

Fountain
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/fontain.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/fountain.jpg

Blue_Sky

August 14th, 2005, 05:51 PM

if laba-laba online maybe he can help me right now
:):)

Blue_Sky

August 14th, 2005, 05:52 PM

Governor Office
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/kantorgubernur.jpg

Blue_Sky

August 14th, 2005, 05:53 PM

Maimun Palace
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/maimunpalace.jpg

sanhen

August 15th, 2005, 02:57 AM

What struck me most about Medan is the Chinese over there speak the kind of Hokkien spoken in Penang. 100% penang Hokkien!!! So differs from other parts of Indonesia.

There're quite significant numbers of Indians over there too.

Chinese Indonesian speaks many chinese dialect. I think different island speaks different dialect or similar dialect but with different variation.

I remember a friend meet another chinese from another indonesian location and can not understand each other.

And due the pressure from the government, many Chinese Indonesian can not speak chinese anymore.

Blue_Sky

August 15th, 2005, 05:04 AM

Chinese Indonesian speaks many chinese dialect. I think different island speaks different dialect or similar dialect but with different variation.

I remember a friend meet another chinese from another indonesian location and can not understand each other.

And due the pressure from the government, many Chinese Indonesian can not speak chinese anymore.

Pontianak (khuntien) in west kalimantan speak teo chew
Singkawang (san kew jong) in west kalimantan speak Hakka
and most of chinese in indonesia speak hokkien

but yes Medan is one place where the cinese community can speak their local dialect very fluently which is hokkien

Zorobabel

August 15th, 2005, 05:37 AM

I read some Chinese Indonesians speak the Southern Min dialect.

UMD

August 15th, 2005, 09:56 AM

I read some Chinese Indonesians speak the Southern Min dialect.

All Chinese in Medan speak Min nan Hua (Southern Min) dialect from Chuang Chiu (nearby Xiamern) region, which is known in Indonesia simply as Hokkien. The version spoken is 99% the same as the Penang version.

All Medanese Chinese who have moved to other parts of Indonesia also continue to speak Hokkien. You can find a lot of them in Jakarta, Batam and Surabaya.

Min nan Hua (Hokkien) is the lingua franca among all Chinese in Medan and surronding cities in North Sumatra. If you are a Cantonese in Medan, then you usually speak cantonese at home and Hokkien when you do any business dealings with other Chinese or at school and with your friends. If you are a Hakka (Ke Jia Ren) in Medan, then you speak Hakka at home and a Hokkien when you do any business dealings with other Chinese or at school and with your friends. So on and so on....

UMD

August 15th, 2005, 02:34 PM

Sun Plaza at night in Medan - look at the contrast between the new and the art deco houses next to the mall...I posted this once in the other thread but this thread is more more appropiate...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/umd_1970/Picture036.jpg

UMD

August 15th, 2005, 02:40 PM

This is Sun Plaza's main entrance during the early morning before the crowds....

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/umd_1970/SunPlaza1.jpg

UMD

August 15th, 2005, 02:42 PM

Another shot of the Tamil temple at night....I believe it is one of its kind (at least the one this ornate and colorful) in Indonesia.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/umd_1970/IndianTmplMedan.jpg

laba-laba

August 15th, 2005, 03:14 PM

Medan in photo at www.medancity.tk or original url at http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/ and
Medan Project Forum http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=110278&page=10&pp=20

Siang hari
Dari kawasan Kesawan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=507&nw=450&nh=600
hingga
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=508&nw=675&nh=900&fullsize=1

Kawasan Lapangan Merdeka
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=202&nw=640&nh=480

salah satu kawasan distrik di medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/graphics/index_logo_aqua.jpg
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=259&nw=640&nh=480

Malam
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=277&nw=800&nh=600&fullsize=1
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=491&nw=640&

NB; sebenarnya aku dulu sudah buat suatu Thread tentang Medan, tapi mungkin sudah di deleted :(

Blue_Sky

August 15th, 2005, 03:24 PM

thx UMD and laba-laba
:):)

@UMD
are u also from Medan??

@laba-laba
klo gt jgn ampe thread ini didelete lagi
thread yg 3 bulan gk aktif akan didelete

laba-laba

August 15th, 2005, 03:28 PM

thx UMD and laba-laba
:):)

@UMD
are u also from Medan??

@laba-laba
klo gt jgn ampe thread ini didelete lagi
thread yg 3 bulan gk aktif akan didelete

yes i know that. because i m so busy... :)

Blue_Sky

August 15th, 2005, 03:42 PM

ok because im the thread starter now i will take care this thread
no need to worry

:):)

ncon

August 15th, 2005, 04:57 PM

ok because im the thread starter now i will take care this thread
no need to worry

:):)

really 3 months not active delete

Blue_Sky i will help u busy with ur threads :D

AND U help me with my thread (i hope u know sunset wallpapaer and many more )! :D

Blue_Sky

August 15th, 2005, 05:36 PM

really 3 months not active delete

Blue_Sky i will help u busy with ur threads :D

AND U help me with my thread (i hope u know sunset wallpapaer and many more )! :D

easy mate
i have nothing but time

:D:D

UMD

August 16th, 2005, 04:12 AM

thx UMD and laba-laba
:):)

@UMD
are u also from Medan??

@laba-laba
klo gt jgn ampe thread ini didelete lagi
thread yg 3 bulan gk aktif akan didelete

I was born in Medan and used to live there until high school. I now lived in Sydney. However, I still have a brother in Medan who will be happy to take updated pictures of Medan. The pictures I attached here were taken by him.

By the way, laba laba can also help a lot.

laba-laba

August 17th, 2005, 03:41 PM

Blue_Sky, u can post my image of medan city from my website :)

laba-laba

August 19th, 2005, 04:56 PM

Pada tanggal 14 Agustus 2005

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=590&nw=640&nh=480

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=589&nw=640&nh=480

h4nh4n

August 19th, 2005, 06:09 PM

medan kena kabut juga?
senjata makan tuan juga donk :D

Blue_Sky

August 21st, 2005, 06:33 AM

Blue_Sky, u can post my image of medan city from my website :)

Thx mate...
that make my job easier

:):)

Blue_Sky

August 21st, 2005, 06:35 AM

tugu sib
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/tugusib.jpg

Blue_Sky

August 21st, 2005, 06:36 AM

city traffic
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/traffic.jpg

Mahaputra

August 21st, 2005, 08:19 AM

what's that nokia building with cool roof.. pretty nice
cool roof design

UMD

August 21st, 2005, 01:45 PM

laba laba,

Kalau ada waktu tolong dong foto-in Balai Kota Medan yang lama....yg diseberang lap. Merdeka....

Thank you

Patrick Highrise

August 23rd, 2005, 11:45 AM

this thread is nice because now I have some pictures of the city were my rountrip trough Sumatra, Java and Bali starts! :)
I am going to do that trip in may 2006 btw...:)

Blue_Sky

August 23rd, 2005, 12:17 PM

Thats great!!!
Specially in Jakarta coz soo many historical building that built under dutch colony in Indonesia

enjoy there...
:):)

laba-laba

August 23rd, 2005, 01:53 PM

what's that nokia building with cool roof.. pretty nice
cool roof design

in the night
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=281&nw=640&nh=480

laba-laba

August 23rd, 2005, 02:25 PM

Medan photo gallery www.medancity.tk

Bank
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=89&stage=2

Medan to Day
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=87&stage=2

From Sender
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=91&stage=2

Hospital
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=95&stage=2

Market
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=92&stage=2

Traditional Market
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=96&stage=2

Medan In The Night
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=88&stage=2

Medan Building
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=98&stage=2

Medan Old Building
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=93&stage=2

Medan Old Medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=90&stage=2

Medan Projects
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=86&stage=2

Medan Ruko
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=97&stage=2

Medan photo gallery is not complate yet..

laba-laba

August 23rd, 2005, 02:26 PM

waahh.. semua photo sudah ada di www.medancity.tk Tinggal ambil sajaa :) ya udah ku posting disini.

Balai Kota Medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=572&nw=637&nh=480

Medan Old Building.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=414&nw=640&nh=480
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=362&nw=640&nh=480
Kumpulan Medan Old Building ada di sini
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=93&stage=2&ref_imgid=414

The first "Plaza in Medan".
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=496&nw=640&nh=480

Tugu SIB dan air mancurnyaa
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=432&nw=640&nh=480

Tugu SIB in the night
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=273&nw=640&nh=480

7th floors Gleneagles Hospital
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=345&nw=640&nh=480

Adipura Kota Medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=456&nw=640&nh=480

Taman Makam Pahlawan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=444&nw=640&nh=480

Pengadilan Tinggi Sumatera Utara
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=376&nw=640&nh=480

Kantor Pos Medan ( dulu nya hotel dijaman duluuu.. )
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=371&nw=640&nh=480

Tugu Kembar GuanCho
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=224&nw=640&nh=480

Medan Penyedot Debu dijalan type kecil
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=232&nw=640&nh=480

Jalan Sudirman Medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=217&nw=640&nh=480v

Medan Trafics
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=212&nw=640&nh=480

Medan Stasiun Kereta Api
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=200&nw=640&nh=480

tata

August 23rd, 2005, 06:57 PM

@laba2: I like a lot old buildings in Medan. Really hope people and government preserve them.

Blue_Sky

August 27th, 2005, 02:13 PM

Aerial view
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/aerialview.jpg

Blue_Sky

August 27th, 2005, 02:14 PM

SOGO
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/sogo.jpg

tata

August 27th, 2005, 07:01 PM

a lot of greenery

Aerial view
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/aerialview.jpg

laba-laba

August 29th, 2005, 02:27 PM

Aerial view
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/dave_win/medan/aerialview.jpg

aku gak tau nih daerah manaa... ya pasti daerah pinggiran...

Blue_Sky

August 29th, 2005, 03:10 PM

Wah aku seh kurang tau mas laba-laba :D
Tapi wkt aku ambil foto ini di internet tertulis lokasinya seh di Medan

klo emang source tempat aku ambil pic ini salah ntar aku delete deh
tapi tolong dikonfirmasi dulu ya
klo udah tolong inform ke aku ya

:):)

Blue_Sky

August 30th, 2005, 03:11 PM

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laba-laba

August 30th, 2005, 05:46 PM

Aku jelasi yaa gambarnya.

Gambar pertama itu memang landasan polonia begitu dekat dengan rumah penduduk. Jadi kapal saat lending akan sangat dekat dengan rumah penduduk. Sungguh mengerihkan :) kapan terlihat sangat besar dan dekat.
Bila Bandara Kuala Namu telah selesai dibangun, makaa bekas lahan polonia akan menjadi kawasaan bisnis berisikan highrise building:)

Gambar kedua itu menunjukkan kawasan medan pinggiran yang berisikan rumah-rumah penduduk kelas menengah kebawah. Dilintasi oleh Tol dari medan ke Tanjung merawaa.

jaystar

August 30th, 2005, 06:19 PM

di medan juga ada smog yach???

laba-laba

September 21st, 2005, 06:01 PM

Istana Maimun
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=439&nw=640&nh=480

Jln Zainul Arifin
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=458&nw=640&nh=480

Daerah Kesawan Square disiang hari.
1.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=447&nw=640&nh=480
2.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=198&nw=640&nh=480
3.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=196&nw=640&nh=480

Blue_Sky

September 21st, 2005, 07:02 PM

Wah Jln Zainul Arifin kayaknya lega bgt ya
Itu pusat kotanya ya??

wonkcerbon

September 22nd, 2005, 02:12 PM

Gedung Kuno di Medan menarik ya ?

Omong2 siang kok di daerah Kesawan sepi ya

ncon

September 22nd, 2005, 02:15 PM

Gedung Kuno di Medan menarik ya ?

Omong2 siang kok di daerah Kesawan sepi ya

orang2nya pada ngatuk kali :hilarious:

laba-laba

September 23rd, 2005, 07:22 AM

Wah Jln Zainul Arifin kayaknya lega bgt ya
Itu pusat kotanya ya??

aku emang ambil foto menunggu pada saat sunyi tidak ada kendaraan melintas ( biasanya hari minggu hehehe ). dengan begitu akan tertampak bangunan dan jln.
Daerah-daerah tersebut sangat padat terutama pada jam sibuk.
ya pusat kota medan juga, 2km dari Bandara Polonia. Sering macet. Kadang2 jalan dialihkan ke arah lain. Dan bukan daerah termasuk yang paling macet. Daerah-daerah macet terutama banyak di daerah Ruko2an. seperti jalan Sudarso, Tamrin, dsbnya.

Daerah Za Arifin
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/graphics/index_logo_aqua.jpg

Titik 0 km kota medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=202&nw=640&nh=480

Dari Kesawan Square.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=507&nw=450&nh=600
dan bersambung
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=508&nw=450&nh=600

ncon

September 23rd, 2005, 07:25 AM

can we talk using English cos this is int forum so others can understand thanks ;)

laba-laba

September 23rd, 2005, 07:27 AM

more photos...

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=212&nw=640&nh=480

laba-laba

September 23rd, 2005, 07:34 AM

can we talk using English cos this is int forum so others can understand thanks ;)

hahaha.. yap.. i always tried. but my english very bad. i cant descript in english. but im trying..

ncon

September 23rd, 2005, 07:42 AM

hahaha.. yap.. i always tried. but my english very bad. i cant descript in english. but im trying..

use simple English :D

laba-laba

September 23rd, 2005, 01:38 PM

use simple English :D

OK BOS

wonkcerbon

September 23rd, 2005, 02:28 PM

Istana Maimun Gorgeous man !!! I should visist this city someday,

BTW I heard there's a place named Pangkalan Susu in Medan, is that true ??? ( LOL! Namanya agak porno Ya ? )

JAG2

September 23rd, 2005, 02:35 PM

can we talk using English cos this is int forum so others can understand thanks ;)

Thanks .

ncon

September 23rd, 2005, 02:38 PM

Thanks .

thanks me for what ?? :D

laba-laba

September 23rd, 2005, 07:32 PM

Istana Maimun Gorgeous man !!! I should visist this city someday,

BTW I heard there's a place named Pangkalan Susu in Medan, is that true ??? ( LOL! Namanya agak porno Ya ? )

Come to Medan lahh... :) hehehe..

"Pangkalan Susu" in Sumatera Utara 2 haurs from Medan. its about 150 km from Medan.

Zorobabel

September 23rd, 2005, 10:39 PM

thanks me for what ?? :D
We don't know Indonesian well. :runaway:

Alvin

September 24th, 2005, 01:13 AM

I wonder if Indonesia's other major cities, such as Medan, Palembang, Surabaya, Malang will ever undergo the same physical transformation (bleaming skyscrapers etc.) that chinese cities have in the last 10-15 years...I wonder why it hasn't happened, not even in the past during Suharto's boom years...

Zorobabel

September 24th, 2005, 02:24 AM

ncon

September 24th, 2005, 05:54 AM

Blue_Sky

September 27th, 2005, 03:56 PM

^^
they have to move the airport first then

indistad

September 27th, 2005, 05:58 PM

I think they will Alvin. It's kind of hard to compare Chinese cities to Indonesia's. Whereas China has never in its history had a centralized economy, and its capital usually changes every 50-100 years, Indonesia has had an economy centralized around the Jakarta region for the last 400 years. With decentralization and new demands from the people in municipal elections, it seems only a matter of time (10 years maybe?) that with increased economic activity many of these cities will start to witness transitions as local business hubs. Just my opinion though, and I'm probably wrong.

I don't quite agree with you Zorobabel. During the start of the 20th century, the largest city in Indonesia was Surabaya. It was also the industrial capital of the country. Centralization only truly started after independence, and was most intense during the Soeharto regime.

I think perhaps if we hadn't had that crisis, Indonesian cities would be comparable to Malaysian cities of today. Surabaya would have been pretty grand, it would have probably have more than twice the number of skyscrapers of today. As it is, we are slowly recovering again, and I also agree, in 10 more years, many Indonesian cities will probably have a healthy growth of skyscrapers.

laba-laba

October 11th, 2005, 05:20 PM

update old photo

Railway
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=591&nw=800&nh=495
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=593&nw=799&nh=600

Sh3r_sen

October 21st, 2005, 10:51 PM

I agree dats medan airports should be moved as soon as posible
it against the acts (laws) od international city plannin
some more it located in one of medan elite area
( it ever happened dat d top of Istana Plaza (now called: ramayana) been crashed)

i juz wonder if it is suitable to built a highrise building around d area
coz d area @ d moment is resident area (bungalow, semi detached hoz)

d suitable to built higrise building accordin to me are d road a long jln irian barat - cirebon (till novotel hotel), Prof HM Yamin (esp after kesawan square), Jln Pemuda (jln pandu junction to jalan palan merah junction) n jln ponegoro

and i think @ moment condominium's lifestyle havnt (cant) be acceptable for medan people,... so lets c cambridge n d one at jalan palang merah (behind danautoba hotel) build-ing soon

Sh3r_sen

October 21st, 2005, 10:53 PM

and i think wat is lack in medan is Plaza (gathering spot like jakarta's la piazza center, not shoppin center's plaza)

but i for sure d security must be tight

laba-laba

October 22nd, 2005, 07:44 PM

hypermount

October 23rd, 2005, 05:57 AM

All Chinese in Medan speak Min nan Hua (Southern Min) dialect from Chuang Chiu (nearby Xiamern) region, which is known in Indonesia simply as Hokkien. The version spoken is 99% the same as the Penang version.

All Medanese Chinese who have moved to other parts of Indonesia also continue to speak Hokkien. You can find a lot of them in Jakarta, Batam and Surabaya.

Min nan Hua (Hokkien) is the lingua franca among all Chinese in Medan and surronding cities in North Sumatra. If you are a Cantonese in Medan, then you usually speak cantonese at home and Hokkien when you do any business dealings with other Chinese or at school and with your friends. If you are a Hakka (Ke Jia Ren) in Medan, then you speak Hakka at home and a Hokkien when you do any business dealings with other Chinese or at school and with your friends. So on and so on....

It's based on Chiangchiu/Zhangzhou variant but it borrowed a lot of words from Indonesian/Malay hence it's evolving into a new dialect,

hypermount

October 23rd, 2005, 05:59 AM

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=198&nw=640&nh=480

wow am i seeing a motorised beca??

Nice pics of medan.

tata

October 23rd, 2005, 11:33 AM

wow am i seeing a motorised beca??

Nice pics of medan.

right, motorised becak is typical medan. We dont have it in other city of Indonesia.

cheers

Sh3r_sen

October 23rd, 2005, 03:05 PM

yeah,... i knoe its build-ing
but wat i mean is d market
hav u check d market bro,....

if they hav fulfil d market demand ( i think 70% unit hav been sold [in condominium case]) d work proggresion not dat slow

if u have rp 800 jt, which 1 u prefer? condo or ruko or maybe u can hav cheap semi detached hoz

if rp 250 jt - 350 jt per unit maybe considered, coz u cant find hoz as cheap as dat oledi in medan city main road

cOcO_cHaneL

October 24th, 2005, 08:21 AM

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=198&nw=640&nh=480

wow look at that traditional vehicle in the pic! looks so chinese~~ vV. niCe

UMD

November 7th, 2005, 01:46 PM

right, motorised becak is typical medan. We dont have it in other city of Indonesia.

cheers

Just so that this thread remains active.

Motorized becak in Medan is called "Becak Motor"
All cars in Medan is called "Motor"
Motorcycle is called "Honda" in Medan (at least that was what they used to call it)
Turn around as in turning is called "Pusing" instead of "Putar" :)

joko

November 7th, 2005, 02:01 PM

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=198&nw=640&nh=480

wow am i seeing a motorised beca??

Nice pics of medan.

Itu yang bergelantungan semrawut di atas apaan? lampu atau sarang laba-laba??? Mas Laba-2 jangan bersarang di sana dong...... hehehehehe...

Alvin

November 7th, 2005, 02:18 PM

Just so that this thread remains active.

Motorized becak in Medan is called "Becak Motor"
All cars in Medan is called "Motor"
Motorcycle is called "Honda" in Medan (at least that was what they used to call it)
Turn around as in turning is called "Pusing" instead of "Putar" :)

my dad's from Bangka island, where instead of saying "matikan TV!" ('switch off the tv') they say "bunuh TV!" ('kill the TV')

laba-laba

November 8th, 2005, 07:30 AM

Itu yang bergelantungan semrawut di atas apaan? lampu atau sarang laba-laba??? Mas Laba-2 jangan bersarang di sana dong...... hehehehehe...

lampu hias dimalam hari. :)

laba-laba

November 15th, 2005, 06:31 PM

Medan Old
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=299&nw=277&nh=416&fullsize=1
Medan 2004
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=206&nw=800&nh=600&fullsize=1
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OLD kesawan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=295&nw=376&nh=234&fullsize=1
Kesawan 2004
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=209&nw=800&nh=600

more to comes !!!

UMD

November 16th, 2005, 02:46 PM

Good Job, Laba laba. Keep this active....You know, old Medan was simply stunning. The local government should now preserve all the old buildings in the city.

laba-laba

December 10th, 2005, 05:14 PM

Merdeka Walk

1.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=595&nw=800&nh=600

2. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=594&nw=800&nh=600

3. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=596&nw=800&nh=600

PutraMaya

December 11th, 2005, 05:30 AM

my dad's from Bangka island, where instead of saying "matikan TV!" ('switch off the tv') they say "bunuh TV!" ('kill the TV')

Ha ha ... I find regional variants of Malay (Bahasa Malaysia / Bahasa Indonesia) in the Nusantara fascinating. :lol:

In KL, "switch on the TV" is "buka TV" or "pasang TV" and "switch off the TV" is "tutup TV" or "padamkan TV." It gets more interesting when you explore the regional equivalents within Malaysia (e.g., Kelantanese, Kedahan, Trengganuan dialects, not to mention our Borneo states). :dizzy:

These regional linguistic peculiarities (distinct differences in word usage and styles but still sufficiently similar for basic communication) are what makes travelling in the Nusantara very interesting.

cOcO_cHaneL

December 11th, 2005, 12:47 PM

haHAHAHa yeahh.. sometimes indo words when u translate it into malay it sounds funny and vice versa

laba-laba

December 11th, 2005, 06:18 PM

haHAHAHa yeahh.. sometimes indo words when u translate it into malay it sounds funny and vice versa

but be carrefully with that. some indonesia words its not ugly word catagory but not yet in malay lang :). i dont rembember what those words.

example : cilaka/celaka in malaysia lang. That why one of SO7 song got "cekal" in malaysia.

funny word : pusing-pusing means keliling :)

Ojak

December 13th, 2005, 01:24 PM

The tents in Merdeka Walk remind me of Bukit Bintang in KL. Are there any pedestrian cafes also?

laba-laba

December 14th, 2005, 05:26 PM

The tents in Merdeka Walk remind me of Bukit Bintang in KL. Are there any pedestrian cafes also?

no...
fastfood. junkfood, coffe, milk, kfc, pizza, etc.. need trying to make place like "Citos"

UMD

December 16th, 2005, 02:59 PM

Ha ha ... I find regional variants of Malay (Bahasa Malaysia / Bahasa Indonesia) in the Nusantara fascinating. :lol:

In KL, "switch on the TV" is "buka TV" or "pasang TV" and "switch off the TV" is "tutup TV" or "padamkan TV." It gets more interesting when you explore the regional equivalents within Malaysia (e.g., Kelantanese, Kedahan, Trengganuan dialects, not to mention our Borneo states). :dizzy:

These regional linguistic peculiarities (distinct differences in word usage and styles but still sufficiently similar for basic communication) are what makes travelling in the Nusantara very interesting.

But in Medan, "buka TV" and "tutup TV" are very popular phrases to use as well.

PutraMaya

December 17th, 2005, 07:53 AM

But in Medan, "buka TV" and "tutup TV" are very popular phrases to use as well.

Yes, indeed, as Medan (+ Jambi, Palembang, and the Riau Islands) have close historical/ethnic ties to the Peninsular Malays. Usually, a Medan or Jambi visitor/worker will be able to pick-up the KL/Selangor street dialect within a few mths and be indistinguishable from and totally assimilate into the local population.

laba-laba

December 17th, 2005, 12:20 PM

Yes, indeed, as Medan (+ Jambi, Palembang, and the Riau Islands) have close historical/ethnic ties to the Peninsular Malays. Usually, a Medan or Jambi visitor/worker will be able to pick-up the KL/Selangor street dialect within a few mths and be indistinguishable from and totally assimilate into the local population.

Sriwijaya

laba-laba

December 20th, 2005, 03:28 PM

cOcO_cHaneL

December 20th, 2005, 04:03 PM

dun understand the meaning of any of those words... hehehe

paradyto

December 21st, 2005, 02:23 PM

chitrakaar

December 23rd, 2005, 11:41 AM

I spent some of my childhood vacations in Medan some 30+ yrs ago. Back then, it was a laid-back provincial town. My favorite memory was eating 'Satay' in Kasavan - the best 'Satay' in the world (I think they were served by a Chinese woman).

How Medan has changed - I can't ever recall a traffic jam back then!!!!

Although I have mostly forgotten my Bahasa Indonesia - I have to say this:

Tengo, tengo - Medan ada bagus!

Trimakasi!

macgyver

December 23rd, 2005, 11:57 AM

laba-laba

December 25th, 2005, 04:15 PM

Some words in Medan dialek

1. Mentel kali kau ku liad
2. Cak kera dulu duit nya
3. Paok kali ko kuliad
4. Mantap kali kuliad abang ini
5. Cak abang duduk dulu di krosi itu. Trus kita pergi borbat naek spepa.
6. Montor abang lagi di bengkel ya ?
7. Slo ko sikit situ. Rusak ko nanti kubuat
8. Gelap ko nanti dibuat abang itu.
9. Ntah hapa2 abang ini kuliad
10. dll.. lupa.. nanti dilanjutin.

lanjutan
11. Nanti abang tengok aja ke dalam
12. abang bawak aja kereta di depan itu. ati2 lah bawa kereta nya bang
13. Udah jadi tadi ke pajak ?
14. Begok kali abang ini
15. gimana kita telan aja dia bang ? sor kali aku liad dia
16. sedeng2 ko
17. acam mana dia woi ?
18. dll.. besok2 lanjutin

laba-laba

January 3rd, 2006, 07:39 PM

iseng iseng posting pics

1. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=259&nw=800&nh=600

2. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=527&nw=640&nh=480

3. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=263&nw=800&nh=319

4. Jalan layang di Medan, start building 1985-2004. Lol
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=230&nw=800&nh=600

5. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=202&nw=800&nh=600

chitrakaar

January 4th, 2006, 12:49 AM

Great .. so where are you now ?

I am now in the US (Silicon Valley).

Some of Medan's new buildings seem a bit more eye-catching than the ones here - in terms of color and design!

laba-laba

February 16th, 2006, 01:21 AM

Medan
Diferent view angle of Medan city taken from SUN PLAZA
1.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=603&nw=800&nh=600
2.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=602&nw=800&nh=600
3.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=599&nw=800&nh=600
4. grand paladium
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=600&nw=800&nh=600
5. Medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=601&nw=800&nh=600

Zorobabel

February 16th, 2006, 01:48 AM

I need to visit Medan.

Blue_Sky

February 16th, 2006, 04:03 AM

I need to visit Medan.
Indeed...
City in Indonesia that I want to visit the most

UMD

February 16th, 2006, 03:45 PM

Remember when you go to Medan, you have to sample the food. A true mixture of Chinese, Malay, and Indian. Even the Javanese Nasi Goreng has a different twist and taste in Medan. This was taken at one of my favourite Nasi Goreng kopitiam ( or kedai kopi) across from the Tamil temple. 100 servings of delicious Nasi Goreng are fried every 25 minutes.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/umd_1970/NasiGoreng.jpg

Blue_Sky

February 16th, 2006, 03:58 PM

That seller is owesome :eek:

Mahaputra

February 17th, 2006, 03:20 AM

gilaaa.. banyak banget tuh nasi goreng..
tangan si abang tukang nasi goreng pasti segede ade rai.. ahhaha
cape tuh masaknya...

laba-laba

February 23rd, 2006, 02:31 PM

martabak bandung...

nyam2... nyam2...

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=548&nw=450&nh=600

UMD

February 24th, 2006, 01:15 AM

It is funny that Martabak Bandung in Medan is actually Martabak Bangka in Jakarta. The best Martabak Manis, I think, is the original Kue Mancing (don't know if that is how you spell it but to me that's how it sounds like) from Medan- a variation of martabak but smaller in size and a lot thinner. You could buy Kue Mancing at Jl. Semarang hawker street and several other places in Medan. I remembered growing up on Kue Mancing from Pasar Ramai and Pajak Sambu in Medan.....They are good. I remembered they were used to be sold on a bicycle.

Before the invasion of Martabak Bandung, people in Medan only knew 1 type of Martabak that you eat with Goat Curry Sauce from the Tamil / Indian seller around Kampung Keling. Until today, the visit to the "Kopitiam" that sells Indian Martabak can also end up of you having sweet or spicy Roti Canai from our Tamil friends.

My other favourite Kue from my old days was Kue Pancung. This is very different from Kue Pancung that you could buy in Jakarta. Kue Pancung in Medan is full of coconut, santan, and sugar.......It is almost like a "Bounty" bar without the chocolate coating.

glitz_boy

February 26th, 2006, 05:24 PM

UMD

February 27th, 2006, 01:15 AM

ooooo ..... so nice arr medan..... really want to go there if got time :D

hahaha about martabak bandung/manis, we in Surabaya called it Terang Bulan. while the martabak daging we called simply Martabak. :D

that fried rice looks nice *krug krug* :O

language used in medan is not pure hokkian as the one used in taiwan or fujian. theirs mixed with a lot of malay word liao.... good is in surabaya is still pure if you can speak ^_*

Yeap. In Medan, people speak Penang Hokkien (or Medan Hokkien) depends on how you want to call it. Even in Fujian proivince, there are different versions of Hokkien depending on which area you are from. I guess that is the Southern Min language for you.

For sure, the Hokkien spoken in Medan and Penang (Malaysia) has several Malay words. In Surabaya, I found out that most people, if they can speak at all, will speak Cantonese. Medan Cantonese and Hakkanese people also speak pure Cantonese and Hakkanese at home. But, the lingua franca among all the Chinese in Medan is Medan / Penang Hokkien.

Alvin

March 4th, 2006, 01:25 PM

Medan cited as a city where the US 'must be'
Azhar Ghani , Indonesia Bureau Chief
579 words
1 March 2006
Straits Times
English
(c) 2006 Singapore Press Holdings Limited
JAKARTA - WITH a population of about 2.5 million people, the city
of Medan on Indonesia's Sumatra island is the bustling capital of
a province that is rich in oil, natural gas, timber and palm oil.
But for almost a decade after the previous US consulate shut down
in 1996, the country's third-largest city was a little off the
American diplomatic radar in Indonesia.
Until the Medan consulate was re-established in June last year,
the city was one of the 'nearly 200 cities worldwide with over one
million people' without a formal US diplomatic presence, as
described by US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice in a speech
last month.
She said these cities were 'where the action is today' and where
America 'must be'.
To reach out to people in these cities, the US could not always
build new consulates, she said.
Rather, it should move its best diplomats outside the embassies in
capitals and deploy them to secondary cities.
To illustrate what she planned to do, Dr Rice cited the spread of
America's diplomatic presence in Indonesia as an example.
After China and India, the country with the largest increase in
diplomats under current planning is Indonesia, with the addition
of five positions.
Besides the Medan consulate, the US embassy in Indonesia also has
a second outpost, a consulate in East Java's Surabaya which has
been around since before Indonesia achieved its independence in
1945.
In Medan's case, the Americans never really left, even during the
closure of the consulate.
It was served by what the embassy calls 'accredited diplomats on
temporary duty' who divided their time between Medan and Jakarta.
The value of having a formal outpost in the Sumatran city came to
the fore in the aftermath of the tsunami and earthquake disasters
that devastated the island's Aceh province in December 2004.
Medan is a 2 1/2-hour drive to the border of Aceh, and a one-hour
flight to Banda Aceh, where the disaster claimed at least 167,000
victims.
For the first week after the tsunami hit, when the Indonesian
government was reluctant to allow foreign aid into Aceh directly,
the city became a gateway for relief efforts, especially those
from other countries and international aid agencies.
American aid for the rebuilding of Aceh so far amounts to some
US$400 million (S$649 million).
With the rehabilitation and rebuilding of the affected areas still
very much a work in progress, the province remains a focal point
for aid and relief.
This, said the US embassy in an e-mail reply to The Straits Times,
was one of the reasons why Medan had been picked again to host an
American presence - currently, two US diplomats including Consul
Paul Berg.
Other reasons the embassy cited were the city's size and its
position as a commercial centre with a major port linked to
neighbouring Singapore and Malaysia.
In an interview with The New Yorker magazine last year, Mr Berg
also pointed out that there were three major oil companies with
large interests in Sumatra: Exxon Mobil, Chevron and Conoco
Phillips.
The embassy said the move to re-open the Medan mission was 'to
provide US representation to an area that might otherwise not
receive enough attention'.
It also said there were no plans to establish more American
outposts in Indonesia.
Document STIMES0020060228e23100020

Addictive

April 7th, 2006, 09:15 PM

Addictive

April 7th, 2006, 09:19 PM

I need to visit Medan.

Yeah......... Just visit and you're welcome............ :D

Addictive

April 7th, 2006, 09:32 PM

We don't know Indonesian well. :runaway:

So I'll tried to use English to participate here.......... Dont blame me if I can't exactly describe anything right in English. That's make me frustating while I'm trying my best to type in english :D
If I can't find more words in English, so I will use Indonesian....

laba-laba

April 8th, 2006, 02:29 AM

btw, Addictive where r u rightnow ? and where r u come from ?

Addictive

April 8th, 2006, 10:55 AM

btw, Addictive where r u rightnow ? and where r u come from ?
Me? ofcourse I'm in Medan right now.......... :D My whole live is in Medan...... :D

laba-laba

April 8th, 2006, 11:52 AM

Me? ofcourse I'm in Medan right now.......... :D My whole live is in Medan...... :D

cool.. help me untuk lebih aktif di thread ini :)

Addictive

April 8th, 2006, 04:34 PM

roger that............ :D
gw akan bantu update tuk thread ini deh........ tapi segera setelah balik dari luarkota.
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I'll help to update this thread.......... But soon after I'm back from uptown

Blue_Sky

April 8th, 2006, 04:37 PM

lol...
sip sip
bilingual neh postingannya

Addictive

April 9th, 2006, 10:22 AM

LOL......

Gw akan coba post dalam bhs inggris deh.... soalne inggris gw payah neh... :D
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I'll keep to post in English....... but sorry to my poor English.. :D

netsurfe

April 11th, 2006, 10:00 AM

HI,
Im also a proud medaner...

I hope, I can help in this thread....

but, as english is not my second language (and not at all first)
please excuse me for any mistakes.... :)

here are some photos of medan ..

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2328/medan028cp.jpg

What do you make of it?
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5343/medan010wc.jpg

laba-laba

April 11th, 2006, 12:13 PM

wow.. im happy. Semoga topic medan berkembang. since my own computer shop opened, i really2 dont have much time to take photo of medan.
maybe someday i will take a foto north of medan. that place i never/less visited :)

laba-laba

April 11th, 2006, 05:53 PM

edited : wrong place

laba-laba

April 11th, 2006, 05:54 PM

i will give some medan semeraut photos.
1. http://www.geocities.com/andi_lagi/day/1.jpg

2. http://www.geocities.com/andi_lagi/day/semeraut.jpg

Pajak iklan lama. adalah tempat menjual baju, kain, dsbnya. luas 1km2
3. http://www.geocities.com/andi_lagi/day/pajakikanlama.jpg

laba-laba

April 11th, 2006, 06:35 PM

chect this url
http://medan.m-heritage.org/results/medan150.html

Blue_Sky

April 11th, 2006, 06:40 PM

OMG...
The 1st pic reminds me of some corner in Pontianak
I love those shots :okay:

Fir3blaze

April 11th, 2006, 07:09 PM

Nice pics laba2! Great to see ur photo posts again :)

laba-laba

April 12th, 2006, 04:26 AM

Nice pics laba2! Great to see ur photo posts again :)

i still have more pics to come. i dont have time .. i dont have much time... sad..

laba-laba

April 30th, 2006, 05:03 PM

here the picture
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=611&nw=800&nh=582

original pictures are :

http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=611&nw=2267&nh=1650&fullsize=1
1
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=612&nw=800&nh=600&fullsize=1
2
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=613&nw=800&nh=600
3
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=614&nw=800&nh=600
4
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=615&nw=800&nh=501
5
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=616&nw=754&nh=600

laba-laba

May 6th, 2006, 07:25 AM

guess what ? what it this ?
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=617&nw=800&nh=600

Addictive

May 11th, 2006, 07:03 PM

@up :
at the roof of plasa medan fair?
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sepertinya dari atap plasa medan fair yah... <gambar diatas ini maksudnya apa yah?>

laba-laba

May 12th, 2006, 05:26 AM

@up :
at the roof of plasa medan fair?
--------------------------------------------------
sepertinya dari atap plasa medan fair yah... <gambar diatas ini maksudnya apa yah?>

Gambar bangunan ruko-ruko sarang walet di medan. Sepertinya membentuk suatu distrik :) ketinggian ruko disekitar ruko walet ada min 3 tingkat. Jadi dapat dilihat ketinggian ruko walet di medan.
Ruko sarang walet sangat menjamur di sumatera utara, terutama di medan. Untuk daerah luar medan ada hingga 7 lantai ruko untuk walet.

laba-laba

May 23rd, 2006, 03:41 PM

Edisi: 19-MAY-2006
Masyarakat Sumut banjiri RS di Penang Malaysia

http://www.bisnis.com/servlet/page?_pageid=267&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30&id=440183&tanggal_awal=16-MAY-06&tanggal_akhir=23-MAY-06&kata_kunci=medan&edisi=000000&di_mana=Isi%20Berita&kategori=BIMBI&sort=DESC&ptopik=A01&tgledisi=23-MAY-2006

MEDAN: Pagi itu udara terasa panas. Suasana di Bandar Utara Internasional Polonia sesak. Nampak sejumlah orang sakit dan keluarganya memenuhi tempat duduk di ruang tunggu. Mau pergi berobat kemana mereka? Setelah ditanyakan, ternyata mau ke Kota Penang, Malaysia. Negeri Jiran itu menjadi tujuan untuk berobat dan cek kesehatan.

Sudah umum diketahui, warga Sumut menjadikan Penang sebagai tempat berobat favorit. Tidak heran jika dalam lima hari penerbangan Medan-Penang selalu penuh. Singapura yang selama ini menjadi pilihan berobat perlahan mulai ditinggalkan. Kecuali penyakit yang susah sembuh dan sebagian kecil orang kaya di Sumut masih berobat ke Singapura.

Masyarakat Sumut ternyata sudah tidak asing lagi dengan rumah sakit di Penang. Setiap tahun sedikitnya 250.000 orang berobat ke Penang. Kalau ditotal dengan warga yang melakukan cek kesehatan, jumlahnya bisa membengkak menjadi dua kali lipat. Mereka meninggalkan rumah sakit di daerah ini.

Membanjirnya warga Sumut berobat ke Penang tidak lain disebabkan rendahnya mutu pelayanan kesehatan rumah sakit lokal. Walaupun sudah ada UU pembatasan praktik dokter, maksimal hanya bisa buka praktik di tiga tempat, ternyata belum membantu peningkatan pelayanan kesehatan di berbagai rumah sakit di Sumut. Para dokter di Medan lebih mengutamakan kerja di praktiknya, dibandingkan dengan tempat tugasnya di rumah sakit. Jadi tidak heran manakala ada dokter di Medan memberikan resep kepada pasiennya hanya lewat telepon melalui petugas paramedis di rumah sakit tempatnya bekerja.

Jumlah rumah sakit di Medan
No Tipe Unit Tempat tidur
1. A 1 750
2. B 1 750
3. C 4 690
4. D 44 2.600
5. Puskesmas 39 -
6. Klinik bersalin 282 -
7. Rumah sakit ibu dan anak 8 -
8. Rumah sakit mata 4 -
9. Rumah sakit kusta 1 -
10. Rumah sakit jiwa 4 -
Sumber: diolah dari berbagai sumber

Rumah sakit di Medan sebagaimana disebutkan ratusan pasien, ternyata kurang memanusiakan manusia. Pelayanan diberikan hanya mengejar uang semata, bukan atas dasar kemanusiaan. Seorang pasien bisa telantar berjam-jam karena tidak membawa uang muka. Atau pasien dibiarkan menunggu di ruang tunggu tanpa pengobatan dari dokter.

Pasien merasa ditelantarkan oleh dokter. Hal ini membuat pasien merasa tidak dihargai dan lari berobat ke luar negeri. Apalagi, biaya yang dikeluarkan untuk berobat di Penang ternyata lebih murah dibandingkan dengan berobat di rumah sakit di Medan. Sekadar perbandingan, cek kesehatan lengkap di Penang cukup dengan Rp1,5 juta, sedangkan di Medan paling murah Rp2 juta.

Minim peralatan

Persoalan lain yang dihadapi para pasien yang berobat ke rumah sakit di Medan adalah minimnya peralatan operasional. Banyak pasien harus ditandu atau dinaikkan ke mobil ambulan hanya untuk melakukan USG (ultrasonografi) atau photo torach (untuk mengetahui TBC). Akibatnya, pasien yang sudah parah penyakitnya bertambah sakit karena terguncang-guncang di dalam mobil. Tentu ini tidak nyaman bagi pasien.

Hal lain tentu berkaitan dengan kualitas obat yang diresepkan oleh seorang dokter. Sudah tidak rahasia lagi, seorang dokter hanya memberikan resep obat keluaran pabrik tertentu karena dokternya mendapatkan fee dari setiap resep yang dikeluarkan. Padahal, obat yang diresepkan dokter tersebut belum tentu cocok untuk kondisi pasien. Obat-obat antibiotik buatan pabrik tertentu, misalnya, sering tidak pas untuk seorang pasien.

Akibat kesalahan memberikan resep obat tersebut, mengakibatkan pasien mendapatkan penyakit tambahan. Artinya, penyakitnya bukan sembuh tapi mendapatkan penyakit baru.

Seorang dokter di Penang pernah mengatakan pasiennya dari Medan harus menjalani terapi agak lama (satu bulan), karena harus mengeluarkan obat-obat yang sudah dimakan selama ini. Obat yang diberikan dokter di Medan ternyata menjadi racun di tubuh pasien. Racun tersebut harus dikeluarkan dulu dari tubuh pasien, baru diberikan obat yang cocok untuk penyakitnya.

Lari ke luar negeri

Ikatan Dokter Indonesia (IDI) Sumut memperkirakan Rp400 miliar sampai Rp500 miliar uang penduduk Sumut lari ke luar negeri hanya untuk berobat ke Singapura dan Malaysia.

Rustam Effenfi, Ketua Umum IDI Sumut, mengatakan capital outflow setiap tahun untuk berobat mencapai Rp400 miliar sampai Rp500 miliar.

"Masalah ini harus dipikirkan bersama. Bagaimana agar dana sebesar itu tidak bertambah besar lagi hanya karena pelayanan kesehatan di nilai kurang memuaskan," ujarnya belum lama ini.

Menurut dia, sedikitnya 600.000 masyarakat Indonesia berobat ke luar negeri. Sekitar 200.000 orang, lanjutnya, berasal dari Sumut. Alasan mereka karena biaya relatif murah dan diagnosa dokternya lebih akurat dan menyembuhkan penyakit. Selain itu, peralatannya lengkap dan canggih.

"Kemudian, pasien ditangani oleh dokter spesialis yang sangat ramah dan memberikan pelayanan secara profesional."

Dari sisi pengetahuan, menurut dia, dokter di Indonesia tidak kalah. Bahkan banyak dokter dari Tanah Air mengajar di sejumlah universitas di Malaysia. Hanya saja, pelayanan para dokter yang diberikan kepada masyarakat sering tidak memuaskan pasien.

Misalnya, di ruang praktik dokter hanya menanyakan bagian mana dari badan pasien yang sakit, lalu diberikan resep. Pasien mau konsultasi lebih lama, pasien lain sudah banyak yang antre sampai berjam-jam menunggu di ruang tunggu praktik dokter.

Semestinya, kata Rustam, pelayanan seperti itu sudah harus ditinggalkan. Para dokter harus memberikan waktu relatif lebih lama kepada pasien dan keluarganya untuk mengetahui jenis penyakitnya. Dengan demikian obat yang diresepkan pas dan cocok.

Langkah yang harus ditempuh untuk menahan agar masyarakat tidak lagi berbondong-bondong lari berobat ke luar negeri, menurut dia, sistem pelayanan kesehatan di negeri ini harus diperbaiki.

"Pasien harus dilayani secara profesional dan ramah. Dengan demikian pasien tidak memilih berobat ke luar negeri," tuturnya.

Menurut dia, masalah lainnya yakni rumah sakit harus dilengkapi dengan peralatan alat-alat kesehatan modern. Pemerintah, katanya, harus mewajibkan setiap pengelola rumah sakit melengkapi peralatannya. Rumah sakit yang tidak memiliki peralatan memadai harus merujuk pasien ke rumah sakit yang lengkap peralatannya.

"Jangan seperti selama ini, sebuah rumah sakit tetap menahan pasien di rumah sakit itu walaupun peralatannya tidak memadai. Akhirnya, pasien meninggal dan citra rumah sakit jadi jelek."

Sementara itu, Wali Kota Medan Abdillah mengakui jumlah warga Medan yang berobat ke luar negeri lebih dari 300.000 orang per tahun. Hal ini terjadi, paparnya, karena pelayanan rumah sakit di daerah ini sangat buruk dan peralatan yang dimiliki tidak memadai.

Rumah Sakit Umum (RSU) Pirngadi Medan (milik Pemkot Medan), ungkapnya, akan dilengkapi dengan peralatan canggih. Para dokter yang praktik pun harus diberikan remunerasi yang memadai. Kalau tidak, tegasnya, jangan harap pasien kelas menengah ke atas akan memilih rumah sakit di di daerah ini sebagai tempat berobat.

Secara bertahap, tambahnya, RSU Pirngadi Medan yang memiliki tempat tidur sebanyak 750 unit, ditata dengan membangun gedung baru. Selanjutnya, tinggal melengkapi dengan peralatan yang lebih canggih. Apapun alasannya, katanya, rumah sakit pemerintah dan swasta di Medan harus berbenah agar pasien tidak lari ke luar negeri.

Wali Kota Medan menambahkan jumlah anggota masyarakat Sumut yang berobat ke luar negeri jauh lebih besar dibandingkan dengan angka yang dirilis IDI Sumut. "Saya mempunyai angka jauh lebih besar. Sekitar 600.000 orang per tahun warga Medan dan Sumut yang berobat ke luar negeri," tuturnya.

Jika diteliti di Polonia Medan dan Belawan, banyak yang tercatat sebagai pelancong yang bepergian ke Penang. Padahal, lanjutnya, orang tersebut mau berobat ke Penang.

Abdillah mengaku sudah mengunjungi rumah-rumah sakit di Penang. Ternyata hampir 80% pasien rumah sakit di Penang adalah warga Medan dan Sumut. Sebagian kecil, lanjutnya, berasal dari Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam (NAD). Kalau kondisi tersebut tetap dibiarkan, menurut dia, maka rumah sakit di daerah ini hanya akan dimasuki oleh pasien-pasien miskin yang mengandalkan Askeskin (kartu berobat bagi warga miskin) dan Askes (kartu berobat para pegawai negeri sipil). Sedangkan warga kelas menengah dan atas sambil melancong akan berobat ke luar negeri. (master.sihotang@bisnis.co.id)

Oleh Master Sihotang
Wartawan Bisnis Indonesia

Beberapa rumah sakit di medan
1. Rumah Sakit Pemerintah : PRingadi Medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=618&nw=640&nh=480

2. Gleaneagles Medan
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=345&nw=640&nh=480

laba-laba

May 31st, 2006, 06:38 PM

Banyak Diplomat Berkunjung ke Medan untuk Berbelanja
Walikota Medan Terima Kunjungan Silaturahmi Konjen Malaysia

Medan (Analisa)

Walikota Medan Drs H Abdillah Ak MBA didampingi Kadis Pendidikan Drs H Irwan Effendi Lubis MAP, Kabag Hakda H Ikrom Helmi Nasution SH menerima kunjungan Konsul Jendral Malaysia Fauzi Omar, di rumah dinas Walikota Jalan Sudirman Medan, Selasa (30/5)

Fauzi Omar, menjelaskan kunjungan ke Medan merupakan kunjungan silaturahmi sekaligus nostalgia selama beliau menjabat sebagai konjen.

“Banyak pengalaman yang saya terima selama menjabat sebagai konjen, seperti di Islamabad (Pakistan), Brazil dan sekarang ini di Kota Medan (Indonesia). Lain negara lain budayanya, dan paling berksean bagi saya waktu menjabat di Brazil selama 3,5 tahun,” tuturnya.

Dia juga mengutarakan, pihaknya sangat berminat untuk berperan di dalam pembangunan di Kota Medan, peran tersebut dibidang investasi dan bisnis, seperti konstruksi, infra struktur, konsorium, industri maupun impor gula. “Selain itu, pemerintah Ipoh (Perak) ingin menjalin hubungan kota kembar dengan Kota Medan,”kata Fauzi.

BERPROSPEK

Dikatakannya, Kota Medan sangat berprospek sekali untuk itu, dia yakin Kota Medan bakal menjadi tumpuan para diplomat asing untuk melakukan hubungan kerja sama di berbagai bidang, sehingga nantinya pekerja tidak perlu lagi pergi ke negara lain untuk mencari pekerjaan.

Kunjungan para diplomat ke kota Medan pada umumnya lebih banyak berbelanja, dan ini merupakan kontribusi bagi Kota Medan. Namun ada hal yang menjadi hambatan bagi para pengusaha atau investor, yakni sistem birokrasi di Kota Medan umumnya Indonesaia, tidak seperti di Malaysia, “ di Malaysia pengurusan mulai dari izin sampai cukai dilakukan pada satu sentral saja.

Sedang di sini ungkapnya, pengurusan tidak pada satu tempat, dan banyak cost lain yang harus dikeluakan, hal ini perlu pembenaan dan efesiansi, ujarnya.

Walikota Medan Drs H Abdillah Ak MBA mengatakan, sangat menyambut baik atas tawaran ini, dia yakin kerja sama ini akan segera terwujud, sebab Malaysia sudah tidak asing lagi bagi Kota Medan, sebagai bangsa sendiri dan satu rumpun lagi.

Peran pihak Malaysia tersebut akan membantu Kota Medan, selain perkembangan pembangunan juga menciptakan lapangan pekerjaan, “ Melihat kondisi arus lalulintas di kota Medan cukup padat, saya berkeinginan untuk membangun jalan Tol, sehingga nantinya dapat mengurangi kepadatan arus lalulintas “ ujarnya. (maf/hers)

laba-laba

May 31st, 2006, 06:40 PM

Kota Medan di Mata “Orang Bali”, Lebih Bersih dan Tamannya Lebih Indah

Medan, (Analisa)

14 anggota komisi A anggota DPRD Provinsi Bali dipimpin ketua komisi A, I Made Arjaya SE melakukan studi banding ke Kota Medan. Kedatangan mereka diterima Walikota Medan diwakili Sekda Drs H Afifuddin Lubis MSi, Senin (29/5) di Balai Kota Medan.

I Made Arjaya SE menjelaskan, study banding ini dimaksud untuk mengetahui secara lebih mendalam terhadap berbagai hal terkait bidang tugas komisi A DPRD Provinsi Bali, meliputi bidang pemerintahan, kependudukan, pertanahan, hukum, ketertiban, dan masalah lainnya, yang dapat dijadikan masukan di dalam memacu pembangunan di Provinsi Bali. Sekaligus promosi bahwa Bali lebih bagus dalam segi pengaturan pariwisata, dibandingkan dulu.

Dikatakannya, pasca bom Bali I dan II, kondisi Provinsi Bali menjadi bangkrut, perekonomian menjadi drop dimana awalnya masukan untuk sektor Pajak Hotel dan Restoran (PHR) 100 persen, kini hanya 30 persen dan ini baru merupakan estimasi, masyarakat Provinsi Bali 93 persen kehidupannya tergantung dari pariwisata. Segala permasalahan kehidupan di Bali terkait dengan pariwisata.

Dijelaskannya juga, heterogenitas di Bali sangat terjaga, disetiap daerah ada pemukiman etnis, seperti kampung Jawa, kampung Bugis, kampung Madura dan lainnya, namun diakui heterogenitas di Bali ini lebih dahulu Kota Medan.

TRAGEDI

Dikatakannya, Bali sebelum tragedi Bom ramai dikunjungi, setelah tragedi bom kondisi Bali menjadi sepi, prekonomian drop, dan masyarakat Bali mulai melakukan perlawanan terhadap kebijakan pemerintahan, dulunya tidak ada demo dan suasana selalu aman aman saja. Sekarang mulai ada demo, dan mulai adanya pencurain yang dilakukan “demi perut”.

Untuk itulah lanjut I Made Arjaya, pemerintah Provisi Bali mulai menata dan membuat pengaturan terhadap Bali, sehingga Bali sekarang lebih bagus dibanding dulu sebelum ada bom. Saat ini Bali sepi sehingga mudah untuk melakukan pengaturan dibanding dulu Bali sangat ramai tidak sempat mengatur.

Jumlah penduduk Provinsi Bali sekitar 2 juta jiwa lebih dengan 9 kabupaten/kota dengan APBD sebesar Rp1,4 trilyun, ada dua pemerintahan otonom yang berjalan di provinsi Bali. I Made Arjaya juga mengakui Kota Medan relatif bersih dengan taman yang indah diband-ingkan dengan kota yang pernah dikunjungi, ujarnya.

Sekda Medan Drs H Afifuddin Lubis MSi mengatakan, masyarakat Kota Medan merupakan masyarakat multi etnis terdiri dari 18 etnis awal sedangkan seluruhnya berjumlah 24 etnis. Kota Medan berpenduduk 2 juta jiwa lebih dengan luas 26.510 hektar atau 565,10 km bujur sangkar, terdiri dari 21 kecamatan dan 151 kelurahan serta 2000 lingkungan.

Dikatakan Kota Medan sebagai ibukota provisi Sumatera Utara dari 25 kabupaten/kota yanfg ada di Sumatera Utara mempunyai pelabuhan Belawan dan Bandara Polonia yang akan dipindahkan ke Kwalanamu Deli Serdang.

Kota Medan juga merelokasi kawasan industri, ada dua kawasan Industri yaitu Kawasan Industri Medan dan Kawasan Industri Baru yang terletak di bagian utara Kota Medan, untuk para investor dalam mengembangkan usahanya.

Untuk menyuksukseskan program pemberdayaan kelurahan, ditingkat kelurahan dan kecamatan selain menerima gaji juga menerima dana insentif, bahkan sampai kepada kepala lingkungan menerima honor, hal ini demi penigkatan pelayanan kepada masyarakat. (hers)

ncon

June 1st, 2006, 04:57 PM

the Gleneagles Hospital looks almost the same as Singapore's one :lol:

laba-laba

June 15th, 2006, 03:55 PM

the Gleneagles Hospital looks almost the same as Singapore's one :lol:

we called with Hotel hospital
first class room have :
1 large room for pasien with bed and sofa set with tv + toilet
1 room for visitor + bedrom + toilet
1 room have 1 set meja makan
1 room have 1 set sofa with tv
with luxuries 4+ level stuff.

laba-laba

June 22nd, 2006, 02:32 PM

Sparkling ??

ini ada gambar yg aku ambil tahun 2004 yang lalu ( no effect )

1. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=595&nw=800&nh=600
2. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=491&nw=800&nh=600
3. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=284&nw=800&nh=600
4. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=287&nw=800&nh=600
5.
http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=275&nw=800&nh=600
6. http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/get_thumbs_on_fly.php?imgid=276&nw=800&nh=600

More Medan sparkling pics at http://labz.saranasukses.co.id/gallery/images/viewer.php?albid=88&stage=2

laba-laba

June 28th, 2006, 06:07 AM

Kota Medan akan berulang tahun pada tanggal 1 Juli nanti.

wisnuario

June 28th, 2006, 07:20 AM

Kota Medan akan berulang tahun pada tanggal 1 Juli nanti.

Wow! Kenapa yah rata-rata ultah kota-kota itu antara Juni-Juli-Agustus?
Btw, great pics, laba-laba!

laba-laba

June 30th, 2006, 07:16 PM

Hapy Birthday Medan city yang ke 516

netsurfe

July 1st, 2006, 11:55 AM

Medan looks so nice in pictures.......... especially the night ones (other cities as well)

cheeke

July 6th, 2006, 09:52 PM

laba-laba

July 7th, 2006, 06:10 AM

Wow, looking at the pictures helps reconfirm what I felt about Medan, my hometown. She has been stagnant for way too many years. I left Medan 14 years ago. Occasionally when I went back, I could still see not much development. All I saw was signs of self-enriching schemes of local government (streets redirections - that caused more traffic, unecessary projects (air mancur, food squares) that had nothing to do with welfare of the citizens; all costing billions of taxpayers money). For comparison, look at Penang, who is much more successful in catching up with 21st century.

Btw, the fact in the beginning of the thread is incorrect. I believe Bandung has surpassed Medan to be the 3rd most populated City in Indonesia.

populated city its not important. Malaysia who less populate than indonesia
is much more successfull compare to Indonesia. I was 3 days in Penang.
Damn.. Penang so cool compare to Indonesia cities. Only Jakarta can beating
Penang.
Facts the reason why penang so successfull than Medan its about The type or structural economic of Indonesia and Culture management Goverment and LAW. In Indonesia only Jakarta have first priority of developments, than others
cities in JAVA.
Penang have owned geverment dont shared +80% of income to Jakarta like
indonesia cities.
Bandung maybe can surpass Medan like Surabaya. because those city in java island.

netsurfe

July 7th, 2006, 09:06 AM

Only Jakarta can beating
Penang.

But I think Penang wins over Jakarta in term of "population of medan people"
:D :D

laba-laba

July 7th, 2006, 09:51 AM

But I think Penang wins over Jakarta in term of "population of medan people"
:D :D

not really. My half friends in highschool have work in jakarta/java rightnow

cheeke

July 7th, 2006, 04:59 PM

populated city its not important. Malaysia who less populate than indonesia
is much more successfull compare to Indonesia. I was 3 days in Penang.
Damn.. Penang so cool compare to Indonesia cities. Only Jakarta can beating
Penang.
Facts the reason why penang so successfull than Medan its about The type or structural economic of Indonesia and Culture management Goverment and LAW. In Indonesia only Jakarta have first priority of developments, than others
cities in JAVA.
Penang have owned geverment dont shared +80% of income to Jakarta like
indonesia cities.
Bandung maybe can surpass Medan like Surabaya. because those city in java island.

Well, I was just correcting the wronged fact. I was not trying to say population was important.

What you said just reiterated my point. Medan is stuck in 20th century while the rest of the world moves on to 21st century. The development is centralized in Java (not only Jakarta). The decline in growth is a combination of regulation and the people. Businesses need to constantly thinking about bribing their way out of government officials obstacles. This was even worse if you are a Chinese of course. This is not the way to stimulate growth.
(Btw, the racism in Medan is still worse than Jakarta)

Most of my friends, after graduating from high school, either moved to Jakarta or Pekan Baru Or Kalimantan to look for better opportunity because they didn't see much future in Medan; of course the ones with family businesses stayed. This is a brain drain and will hurt the growth as well.

laba-laba

July 7th, 2006, 10:45 PM

cheeke

July 8th, 2006, 07:55 AM

no future ? LOL

not much future != no future
? LOL

laba-laba

July 8th, 2006, 03:40 PM

wisnuario

July 8th, 2006, 04:24 PM

UMD

July 8th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Well, I was just correcting the wronged fact. I was not trying to say population was important.

What you said just reiterated my point. Medan is stuck in 20th century while the rest of the world moves on to 21st century. The development is centralized in Java (not only Jakarta). The decline in growth is a combination of regulation and the people. Businesses need to constantly thinking about bribing their way out of government officials obstacles. This was even worse if you are a Chinese of course. This is not the way to stimulate growth.
(Btw, the racism in Medan is still worse than Jakarta)

Most of my friends, after graduating from high school, either moved to Jakarta or Pekan Baru Or Kalimantan to look for better opportunity because they didn't see much future in Medan; of course the ones with family businesses stayed. This is a brain drain and will hurt the growth as well.

I don't think discrimination against the Chinese is worse in Medan than it is in any other part of the country. Laba Laba is correct that the Medanese Chinese pratically live, build, and own the downtown area of the city of Medan. The Chinese community there, similar to other Chinese communities on the other islands, still hang on to at least some of their culture and roots except with much stronger conviction. A Chinese in Medan is definitely more Chinese than any Chinese who lives in the other areas of Indonesia. Medan Hokkien (which is similar to Penang Hokkien) is the lingua franca among all Chinese in and around North Sumatra. You would be surprised as well to see how many Bataknese and Indian are also fluent in Medan Hokkien. Laba Laba is also correct that discrimination comes mainly from our government (from central all the way down to the council level). As always, the discrimination level against the Chinese by any of the other ethnic groups in Medan is not too different from any level of racial discrimination that we all can find within ourselves. We are human after all.... :) Have you listened to any of the Hokkien & Mandarin broadcast lately in Medan? There is no doubt that the Medanese Chinese culture is being allowed to fluorish again and this is a good thing.

The reason a lot of Chinese move away from Medan is not because of the discrimination but it is just Jakarta / Surabaya / Bandung / Semarang offer a much better opportunity. This is so because of the focus of the central government on Java and because of the reputation of the true Medanese Chinese who is known to be very good and cunning business people. Put Medanese Chinese anywhere in Indonesia, and they will take over the business from the locals (Chinese included) - this is what Laba Laba labeled as "Kesombongan". :)

I do feel the pace is changing now in Medan and the vibe that I have got so far is that it is moving towards the right direction. I do hope, however, Medan will forever maintain its distinctive trademark of being the only major city (still officialy the 3rd biggest city in Indonesia) that is more "Truly Asia" than the rest of Indonesia. Medan to me is after all Penang 25 - 30 years ago - we lost these 3 decades to Penang purely due to mismanagement from our government.

UMD

July 8th, 2006, 07:25 PM

not really. My half friends in highschool have work in jakarta/java rightnow

But, there are a lot of Medanese in Penang as well...... :scouserd:

cheeke

July 10th, 2006, 04:50 PM

Actually, hehehe, Medan Chinese is more notorious for being snake-y (spell???). I had lived in Jakarta for a few years, and everytime I mentioned I was from Medan, all of the sudden I can tell people just become more cautious with me, whether it was business dealing or just having casual relationship.
(Org2 di Jakarta takut kalo dagang dgn org Medan, takut ditipu). It's already a stereotype.

Regarding Medan's racism, I did not say that the Chinese got worse treatment from officials. I was saying, in day-to-day live, the natives in Medan on the street still held stronger prejudisms against Chinese more than any cities I had seen in western Java. When I walked on the street in Jakarta, unless I went to the slump, I did not get slurs like 'Hey, Cina!' (or the natives staring at my female companion - btw, they only did that when there's more of them). But I got a bunch of those even as I was walking from my parking spot to the sate padang in Kesawan. Maybe it's just me and some of my friends who who felt the same way.
As far as social live as well, Medanese Chinese are much less integrated to the natives compared to Java's. If you don't agree, and if you are a chinese and live in Medan, how many natives friends that you are really close with (and hang out) do you have? Compared to Java's Chinese, the answer is usually much smaller.

A little note about government officials: I do not have much experience. But I was told by friends who have to earn government contracts by bidding. It used to be a chinese dominated business (some 10-20 years ago), but today the officials prefer to hand the business to natives even they bid at higher prices.

If you understand Indonesia, you know Medanese Chinese has a strong ego about themselves, and they like to show it off materialistically (newest cellphone, bling2 jewelery, cars, huge houses, even mistresses) - I had even seen somebody wearing burberry wool scarves to the movies in a 35-degree weather LOL!!!. But most of them are shallow (not all). Most of people like me who had ventured out of North Sumatra or had dealt with out-of-the-island businesses and had seen the borguois in Java; know better to shut our mouths. The rich people in Java are in totally different level. It's true what you all say about the 'Chinese control this and that', that's basically true for most of Indonesian's major cities (look at Kota, Pasar Baru, Tanah Abang in Jakarta). And I am not dusputing that fact.

Medanese businesspeople are very sharp and yes, cunning. I do not dispute that. Hence the reputation. But to say Medanese will take over from local businesses, I do not agree. If you are talking about food business, maybe. but in general - like trading, banking, real-estate, maybe not. If they did, then they would have dominated Indonesian business landscape right? Take a look at the top 50 richest Indonesians (or top 500), they are mostly chinese and they come from various parts of Indonesia. Hint: TW, A Guan, Riady, Om Liem, Pak William, texmaco group (non chinese), Sinar Mas and so on. Note: actually, there're many non-chinese rich(er) people, they just don't show up on the list for obvious reasons (such as Bakrie, the Cendanas, etc). If you don't believe me, go to Plaza Senayan (or PI) in Jakarta and you can see what I mean.

After all these, I still love Medan. The food is great, my friends and family are awesome. It's still a place I'd love to visit.
But as far as development, the city seems to be stuck slowly in second-gear while the rest of the world is cruising in the fifth gear.

laba-laba

July 20th, 2006, 06:48 AM

i have two news, good and bad.

good : 2 areas deployed for contruction..

bad : i dont have digital camera anymore

edited : upss.. wong thread ...

fairul

July 27th, 2006, 03:47 AM

i'm thinking of going to Medan later this year..so i would like to know..can u guys list down the places to visit while I'm there..and how far izzit medan form lake toba?
thanks! :)

laba-laba

July 27th, 2006, 11:29 AM

i'm thinking of going to Medan later this year..so i would like to know..can u guys list down the places to visit while I'm there..and how far izzit medan form lake toba?
thanks! :)

btw. where r u come from ?
please check www.kotamedan.com it would be help you
Hotels http://www.kotamedan.com/main/hlocation.htm

u can go to lake toba by bus or by taxi/car. take about 4-6 hours go there.
but buy taxi town its more expensive.

laba-laba

July 27th, 2006, 01:03 PM

BAD news : i will lost web hosting on my www.medancity.tk :bash:

paradyto

July 28th, 2006, 04:26 PM

Laba-laba, do you have a pic of Artha Graha Bank in Jl. Sutomo Medan?

Btw, Happy birthday Friend!!! Full of Joy with a great job, love, family and keep healthy in your life:)

laba-laba

July 29th, 2006, 01:19 PM

Laba-laba, do you have a pic of Artha Graha Bank in Jl. Sutomo Medan?

Btw, Happy birthday Friend!!! Full of Joy with a great job, love, family and keep healthy in your life:)

some day.. when i have new camera, i will take that picture.

thanks my friends :) july its my happy month, 25th july its my wife`s birtday too :)

fairul

July 29th, 2006, 06:28 PM

btw. where r u come from ?
please check www.kotamedan.com it would be help you
Hotels http://www.kotamedan.com/main/hlocation.htm

u can go to lake toba by bus or by taxi/car. take about 4-6 hours go there.
but buy taxi town its more expensive.

thanks a lot dude...really appreciate that...anyway..im from KL :)

laba-laba

August 9th, 2006, 08:15 AM

Seminggu ini medan mengalamin pemadaman Listrik sepihak oleh PLN selama 4-5 jam Per HARI. baik pagi maupun malam hingga pagi.

Gimana pendapat kalian semua ? ada masukan ?

Blue_Sky

August 9th, 2006, 09:47 AM

^^

Hal itu mah udah biasa bagi Bpp maupun kota2 di Kalimantan lainnya

PLN emang suckzzz!!!

laba-laba

August 10th, 2006, 10:59 AM

^^

Hal itu mah udah biasa bagi Bpp maupun kota2 di Kalimantan lainnya

PLN emang suckzzz!!!

iya.. sepertinya mereka tidak merasa bersalah..
gimana kalau pejabat PLN gajinya di potong aja karena kasus PLN tersebut..

kan asik tuh.. jadi sama2 menderita menanggung beban PLN yang bobrok..
contoh.. Aku setiap hari harus mengisi Genset aku untuk menyalakan toko aku selama 4-5 jam sehari.. pemborosan !!

Blue_Sky

August 10th, 2006, 04:19 PM

Skrg walikota Bpp lg nego ke mentri energi buat minta tambahan power plant soalnya proyek2 yg lg dibangun itu terancam gelap

menurut SK department energi Bpp masuk kategori krisis listrik dan harus dibangun power plant baru
menurut SK menteri Bpp gak masuk kategori ini

ckckck...
Indo bgt birokrasinya :D:D

Yg aku tau kota di kalimantan spt Pontianak, Samarinda juga menderita krisis listrik sehingga harus digilir pemakaiannya

laba-laba

August 11th, 2006, 08:25 AM

From Analisadaily.com http://analisadaily.com/1-1.htm

SPSI Ancam Unjuk Rasa, Jika PLN Terus Padamkan Listrik

Medan, (Analisa)

Intensitas pemadaman listrik yang semakin sering dan berkepanjangan akhir-akhir ini sangat mengganggu masyarakat khususnya dunia usaha. Akibatnya pekerja yang tergabung dalam Serikat Pekerja Seluruh Indonesia (SPSI) mengancam akan melakukan unjuk rasa besar-besaran.

Demikian Ketua Serikat Pekerja Seluruh Indonesia (SPSI) Sumatera Utara, H Mukhyir Hasan Hasibuankepada Analisa di Kantornya Jalan Gatot Subroto Medan, Kamis (10/8).

Menurutnya, dari hasil temuan pihaknya ketika melakukan survei bersama dewan pengupahan daerah, banyak pengusaha dan karyawan yang mengeluhkan dampak pemadaman arus listrik.

“Mereka mulai tidak sabar dengan ulah PLN mematikan listrik yang berkepanjangan setiap hari. Sehingga mereka mengancam akan melakukan aksi jika pihak PLN tidak segera menghentikan pemadaman listrik,” sebutnya.

Pemadaman arus listrik hingga lebih dari dua kali sehari sangat merugikan masyarakat dan dunia usaha, khususnya industri kecil yang tidak mampu menyediakan genset untuk produksi.

Akibatnya banyak karyawan yang kehilangan mata pencarian, karena perusahaan tidak dapat operasional dengan normal. “Bahkan banyak yang terancam PHK karena perusahaan terus merugi,” ujarnya.

KELUHAN

Dikatakannya, saat ini pihaknya semakin sering menerima keluhan dari pengurus SPSI yang ada di perusahaan. “Kita sudah banyak mendengar masukan, sehingga dalam rapat bersama seluruh pengurus SPSI se-Sumut 19 Agustus mendatang kita juga akan membahas masalah ini,” jelasnya.

Dia meminta pihak PLN tidak main-main dengan kondisi sulit yang dialami para pekerja akibat pemadaman arus listrik. “PLN jangan memancing-mancing para pekerja marah. Jika pemadaman terus berlanjut maka pihaknya akan mengadakan unjuk rasa besar-besaran ke kantor PLN,” tegasnya.

Pihaknya sangat kecewa dengan kinerja PLN yang terkesan tidak pernah memikirkan dampak dari pemadaman listrik yang berkepanjangan.

“Kita kecewa, kenapa ketika piala dunia listrik bisa normal, sementara sekarang kondisinya sangat bertolak belakang,” tandasnya.

Untuk itu, pihaknya juga akan meminta pertanggungjawaban pemerintah terhadap upah buruh yang terus berkurang akibat dampak pemadaman arus listrik.

“Bagaimana mau bicara UMP jika kondisnya seperti saat ini. Akumulasi dampak pemadaman listrik telah banyak merugikan pengusaha, pekerja dan masyarakat,” terangnya.

Dijelaskannya, dampak ini akan semakin buruk jika investor asing hengkang karena iklim investasi buruk. Pihaknya menilai pemerintah tidak serius untuk menjaga agar investasi asing tetap bertahan.

Hal ini terlihat dari kondisi infrastruktur yang buruk, seperti pasokan listrik dan gas yang tersendat-sendat, sarana pelabuhan dan jalan yang tidak memadai dan lainnya.

“Jangan pernah menyalahkan Undang-undang Ketenagakerjaan sebagai penghambat investasi, karena yang menghambat investasi seperti saat ini, pemadaman listrik, pasokan gas tersendat-sendat, pelabuhan dan jalan yang tidak memadai, kutipan siluman dan perda yang tumpang tindih,” urainya.

Sehingga apapun alasan PLN, pihaknya sudah tidak dapat mentolerir karena sudah berlarut-larut tanpa penyelesaian yang jelas.

“Sepertinya PLN hanya tahu kesalahan konsumen. Ketika konsumen terlambat langsung didenda, sementara ketika mereka yang melakukan kesalahan masyarakat hanya menerima dampaknya,” sebut Mukhyir. (msm)

inside_us

August 11th, 2006, 03:56 PM

halooooooooo saya masih nubi neh, udah lama muter2 di skyscraper, dan baru kali saya berhasil masuk di channel medan :D

salam kenal buat semuanya :D

laba-laba

August 12th, 2006, 06:06 AM

halooooooooo saya masih nubi neh, udah lama muter2 di skyscraper, dan baru kali saya berhasil masuk di channel medan :D

salam kenal buat semuanya :D

welcome.. welcome...
we r u know ?
introduce ur self here and in warteg subforum..

laba-laba

August 12th, 2006, 06:07 AM

semalam gila aja !!
mati lampu dari jam 6 sore !! hidup jam 10 pagi esok harinya !!
gimana ini !!

inside_us

August 12th, 2006, 07:43 AM

welcome.. welcome...
we r u know ?
introduce ur self here and in warteg subforum..

teng kyu peri mex :D
my name's s toni, i know this forum 2 month ago, when i try looking for medan pict in google to post in kaskus forum n indosiar forum, then i see there's so much beauty medan pict in skyscrapercity, n by this posting forgive me 'coz i've been moveing some picture to another forum :D, and they are so happy when see laba laba's picture posted :D

thanks

laba-laba

August 12th, 2006, 09:14 AM

teng kyu peri mex :D
my name's s toni, i know this forum 2 month ago, when i try looking for medan pict in google to post in kaskus forum n indosiar forum, then i see there's so much beauty medan pict in skyscrapercity, n by this posting forgive me 'coz i've been moveing some picture to another forum :D, and they are so happy when see laba laba's picture posted :D

thanks

what forum ? i want to see and read... maybe join... kaskus ?? indo girl only ?? hehehehe

Blue_Sky

August 12th, 2006, 11:19 AM

^^
lol...

UMD

August 13th, 2006, 02:40 PM