NAME: BAB-E-PAKISTAN
TYPE: Monument
CONSTRUCTION START: March 23, 2005
CONSTRUCTION END: September, 2007
LOCATION: Near Walton Road, Lahore
COST: Rs 400 million


The design of Bab-e-Pakistan would be reflective of national identity, Islamic history and the epic struggle of Muslims of the Sub-continent for the achievement of independence. The monument is being constructed at the place where the first refugee camp was set up at Walton in Lahore on August 14, 1947. Bab-e-Pakistan project would help us remember the sacrifice made by Muslims during Independence. the monument would be a masterpiece of Islamic architecture.



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Beauty!
President has shown a personal interest in this project and hopefully it will be ready by sep 2007

This'll bring down the poverty rate manifolds!!!

well it will generate economic activities which will help reduce poverty..... the brighter side of the picture :)

Wait one minute!

Wern't they suppose to build this in Islamabad?

Nope! It is in Lahore.
It was always planned to be built on the place where people got the first refuge when they migrated from India in 1947. That is why you will see all those white camps like things on the pics which symbolises camps of that time.

I think they should have picked a better place to build it...Lahore already has its fair share of tourists, and this monument won't really make as much of an impact as it would in an area that receives less tourists, such as ISlamabad.

The alternate theory is that if tourists already go to a city like lahore then maximise that cities potential by building stuff like this over there. The site is an historic one because of the first refugee camp being built there ... and therefore that cant just be shifted to Islamabad IMO. Mind you on the other hand I can see the greenery, water and architecture of this project fitting in so perfectly with Islamabads green surroundings !!

Absolutely beautiful.

Amazing looking!

put it in Lahore its desperatly needs more greenry

Wait one minute!

Wern't they suppose to build this in Islamabad?

that's a different monument you're talking about... and with a nice design too! I saw its design somewhere, can't recall where... it had flower shaped structure in the middle with petals and stuff.

Yeah but .. Bab-E-Pakistan .. Babe Pakistan?!

J/K

there are some really good monuments coming up.

check out http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/ and click monuments.

I think it should be built on the grounds opposite the Mazar-e-Quaid in Karachi... that city has the most immigrant community and also, the only patriotic monument in Karachi is the lonely Mazar-e-Quaid. Also, since Karachi bore the brunt after the migrations from the separated India, it would be more deserving there.
Also, the design would have looked better if instead of whitewashed concrete they had used red sandstone like the Badshahi-Mosque or Yellow Sandstone like the colonial buildings in Karachi.

May be Govt of Sindh can built one in Karachi too......!!!

yeah, good idea... since both of these cities were key players after the partition, I think both of them should have befitting monuments!

Bab-e-pakistan is an excellent project, it was around the cornor for quite somtime but partly due to unavailability of funds and more often lack of commitment, the construction did not started. I have a sentimental attachment to this project as my grandfather along with his family and relatives migrated from Indian Punjab (Gurdaspur, to be precise) to Pakistan (few were died or killed in that migration) and the first relief camp they arrived at, is now the construction site for Bab-e-Pakistan. I will give you guys updates and pictures of the construction work as I live very near to the consteuction site in Walton, Lahore, after march 23, 2005 as it is the proposed starting date for construction.

Are Statue's allowed in Islam? Im a bit confused regarding that, and if they are indeed allowed then we cant' we have a statue of Jinnah somewhere near the Mazar.

well we have pictures of Mr. Jinnah already all over the place... a statue would be just as iconic as a picture

Thats a good point actually, there isnt really a statue of the Quaid anywhere, he certainly deserves one. Perhaps this could be built in Karachi.

Yeah definately, maybe a park right opposite of the Mazar with his Statue!

ISLAM has nothing to do with government affairs so let them make a statue infact make it the largest statue!

and then lol when the americans come to invade us they will think they are liberating us from the quaid and infact they will be making civilians angry LOL

ok that was weird and random btw

Yes that was a bit retarded.

Lol

any picture or structure resembling a human or an animal is not allowed in islam.

really you say so?

so i guess the arab Saddam went against Islam


i am not sure about animals because pics of animals or humans are all over lol yaar thats just for Maulvis yaar i remember a maulvi that used to come to my house and i put all the pictures in the house and all this crap on the table in front of him and he got so pissed!

OHHH B AHAHAHA

Well PakistanUnited with all your due respect.....It is difficult to take your interpretation of Islam as a guide and which is mostly start with "I think...." or " I guess......". And most importantly you donot have the qualification or prerequisite to pass any judgement on Islam.....Just like to operate a patient you need to have a medical qualification as a prerequisite...!!
It would be nice if you can also give some evidence or at least a solid argument SOMETIMES instead of just abuse or just opinions...lol

Before we turn this thread to a discussion of religion and fiqh and morality and whatnot, lets get back to the topic. What we were deliberating on, is that a monument of similar magnitude as the Bab-e-Pakistan is needed for the City of Karachi which also played a humongous part in the days of Partition. Actually, still is playing a huge part. We can't ignore one major city for the same purpose while honoring another.

i dont need proof its common sense!


we watch TV we have pictures of people on the wall we take pictures of humans and hell we even make statues in some countries(arab) what are forums for? they are to voice opinions!

I think we need of a statue of Jinnah waving and with nice smile like disney world LOL

LAHORE: "Bab-e-Pakistan project will recreate for our young generation, the spirit and patriotic zeal that ignited the freedom struggle among the Muslims of the sub-continent at the time of independence," stated Punjab Co-operatives Minister, Colonel Malik Muhammad Anwar (Retd). Foundation ceremony of the said project will be held on March 23. Talking to a delegation of senior citizens here Saturday, he said that design of Bab-e-Pakistan would reflect Pakistan's identity and the people's long political struggle for the country's independence.

The project, to be spread over 110 acres, will mirror the cultural heritage of all the provinces of Pakistan, and will consist of a national monument ,parks and a library with books on Pakistan movement and various aspects of national history.

He said the first phase of the project will be completed at a cost of Rs 800 million, adding that completion of project within the scheduled period of two and half years would be ensured, said a handout

some times i think PAkistan united you talk soo much..
I agree theres no statue's or like these things allowed in islam but there are many we see it in t.v in pictures like u said.. and even long metal fake statue gaurds in front of the house.. I agree they should make statue of Jinnah but Not like u said make him smiling like disney world or something.. :weirdo:
He was our founder soo.. We need to if we make his statue in the honuor and respect like the sitting in chair with PAkistan flag beside him .. or something like the president statues in washington..
You really need to think its no joke..

Karachi Hero you always make those polls in international section comparing us to cities that are well known and at the same time you provide no info about Pakistan to promote it ... leaving us open to bashing.

and faith is mostly opinionated because look we have our fundo's moderates and our secularites all different ways to follow the faith.

Zees and PU, please calm down and move back to topic, youve both made your point so now any further posts that are not related to the topic will be promptly deleted. Thanks.

me.........calm down.......for what

Ground breaking was done by Pervaiz Musharraf on 14th August and the construction will be supervised by Pak Army so it will be constructed at a great pace.

There was a notice in the newspaper last year that invited applications from construction companies for the construction of Baab-e-Pakistan Complex, according to it the Structure will be 150ft tall, the base is also elevated.

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Location:
It is going to be the first Landmark of New Lahore.
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If you want to know more about it mail to: amjadm@pol.com.pk

Really nice and elegant design.

very nice and beautiful project for Lahore

Musharraf inaugurates Bab-e-Pakistan for second time
LAHORE: President General Pervez Musharraf inaugurated Bab-e-Pakistan for second time on Walton road here on Monday.

Former Prime Minister Mian Nawaz Sharif inaugurated the same project (Bab-e-Pakistan) on August 14, 1991.

Governors of four provinces, chief ministers, members federal cabinet, MNAs and MPAs of that time attended the ceremony held in connection with the opening of said project.

Late Ghulam Haider Waein, the Former Punjab Chief Minister, presented the project to Ex-Prime Minister Mian Nawaz Sharif who approved it (project) in a meeting on August 1, 1991.


http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=85546

Wow looks beautiful!

Bab-e-Pakistan reflection of tremendous sacrifices: CM
LAHORE: Punjab Chief Minister, Ch. Pervaiz Elahi, expressing the hope that the 'Bab-e-Pakistan' project would prove to be a magnificent monument to the transmigration which took place at the time of the establishment of Pakistan and the sacrifices rendered for the sake of freedom, has said that the monument would always keep reminding the nation and the generations to come that as many as 14 million people had to migrate with the emergence of Pakistan.
Speaking at a function held in connection with the 'Bab-e-Pakistan' launching ceremony, the Chief Minister reminded that eight million out of the total number of migrants, were Muslims and in order to get the nation to have the blessing of freedom, seven lakhs Muslims laid down their lives. He pointed out that the presence of the provincial chief ministers of various provinces and other peoples representatives in the function, reflected the peoples solidarity and common national objectives. He said that the day of 14th August dawned on the country with the freedom songs on the lips and the colours of those sacrifices in the eyes which the forefathers of the nation rendered during the struggle for freedom.

The Chief Minister further expressed the hope that the 'Bab-e-Pakistan' project would be reflective of both sort of sentiments. He proposed that the nation should also pay tributes to the officers and the Jawans of the Pak Army with regard to the independence day who laid down their lives in defending the Pak land during various wars fought for the defence of the motherland. Pointing out that President, General Pervaiz Musharraf had announced to get the 'Bab-e-Pakistan' project construction completed under the supervision of the army, Ch. Pervaiz Elahi expressed gratitude to the Lahore Corps Commander and his team for taking extra-ordinary interest in the project.

Concluding his speech, the Chief Minister assured the President of the country that he would find the Pakistani masses everywhere neck and neck him in the struggle for the uplift and integrity of the Quaid-e-Azam's Pakistan and his war against ignorance and indigence.

look where the idiots are building it!

Near Walton Airstrip and Lahore intl

^ its no where near Lahore Intl

There are historical reason behind the selection of the location. It was the first refugee camp setup in 1947 and people who has any connection with that camp has an emotional link!

i saw the Ground breaking in the news on ary

look where the idiots are building it!

Near Walton Airstrip and Lahore intl

Walton was the camp in 1947, building it somewhere else doesnt make any sense, Baab-e-Pakistan was proposed in 1980's but the army wasnt ready to clear the area. But now army has cleared the area and Musharraf says its a gift to Lahore from Pak Army.

Walton is not a military airbase anymore, it is used as a drag strip.

And this is atleast 15Kms away from Lahore Intl.

walton is just a flying club were the rich b*tches of lahore and punjab go.

^ well somebody's pissed off at someone ;) :D
pakboy, you want to share something with us? any bad experience(s)?? ;)
c'mon yaar, let it out - you'll start feeling better - itna bojh akelay na uthao! ;) :D

The Bab-e-Pakistan project would be completed within two years, as the President said. Its a beautiful project, and I'm look forward to seeing it done by 2007, Insh'Allah.

walton is just a flying club were the rich b*tches of lahore and punjab go.
Please explain the term "Flying Club", it's confusing when it comes to Walton. ;) :D :jk:

Walton was the camp in 1947, building it somewhere else doesnt make any sense, Baab-e-Pakistan was proposed in 1980's but the army wasnt ready to clear the area. But now army has cleared the area and Musharraf says its a gift to Lahore from Pak Army.

Walton is not a military airbase anymore, it is used as a drag strip.

And this is atleast 15Kms away from Lahore Intl.
Walton is still a airstrip but if it really was a historical site why the hell is the airstrip thier? :sleepy: According to flight sim its very close to Lahore INTL

Walton is still a airstrip but if it really was a historical site why the hell is the airstrip thier? :sleepy: According to flight sim its very close to Lahore INTL

The air strip is really old, I dont have official info but on the 50th Anniversary of Pakistan, Walton Club arranged a special programme in which visitors were given a ride in an airplane which Quaid-e-Azam used in the 40s at Walton. So it was built before partition.

Its atleast 15Kms from Lahore Intl.

any updates on this project ? any new pics ? is the work going ? whats happening with this project plz update it thanks...

there is no construction work going on. no building material is available there no construction machinery... nothin is happening there just a deserted area

HAHAHA....THE USUAL CONSTRUCTION SCENARIO OF MEGA PROJECTS!! LOL!!

This is a good chance for local Pakistani companies to build infastructure in order to meet the counstruction companies demands.

:hahaha:

i guess there will be another inaguration by shaukat aziz soon too...ahahaha

there is no construction work going on. no building material is available there no construction machinery... nothin is happening there just a deserted area

Sad news!!!

Does anyone know what is preventing the construction work from being started?

Sad news!!!

Does anyone know what is preventing the construction work from being started?


well construction work is going there slowly on ground.it will be completed on 14 august 2007.

news about project
Monday, March 27, 2006
PML playing historic role in Pakistan: CM

LAHORE: Punjab Chief Minister Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi said that the PML, under the leadership of President Musharraf, was playing a historic role for the achievement of the objectives of Pakistan’s creation. The chief minister appreciated the services of the PMWT for workers of the Pakistan Movement, and for creating awareness among the younger generation about the movement. He said that work on the Bab-e-Pakistan project, a monument to commemorate refugees who camped in Walton during the partition, had been initiated. “The Punjab government has provided Rs 330 million for the project while President Pervez Musharraf is taking keen interest in it, and himself laid the foundation of the monument,” Elahi said. “It will hopefully be inaugurated on August 14.” The chief minister also offered complete support to the Nazriya-e-Pakistan Foundation’s project for the establishment of a library in Johar Town. He expressed his satisfaction at the completion of work on the Madir-e-Millat Park. The chief minister said that PML’s centenary celebrations would continue throughout the year. Seminars would also be arranged to highlight the sacrifices of leaders of the Pakistan Movement, so that the younger generation could be apprised of the objectives of the creation of Pakistan, he said. The chief minister also announced the approval of a grant for the installation of an elevator at the PMWT’s headquarters. staff report

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well construction work is going there slowly on ground.it will be completed on 14 august 2007.

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well i pass that site every day and let me tell u there is no construction going on. the only thing which is happening is the cutting of the trees to widedn the walton road for dha entry as stated by Core commander lahore. the construction site is deserted. the last news what i heard was there are having problems from railway police they havent given the possesion of the land yet to the army for the construction

It would be quite nice if this was built at Wagah so it would be clearly visible in Hindustan.

Don't see this finishing in 2007...

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well i pass that site every day and let me tell u there is no construction going on. the only thing which is happening is the cutting of the trees to widedn the walton road for dha entry as stated by Core commander lahore. the construction site is deserted. the last news what i heard was there are having problems from railway police they havent given the possesion of the land yet to the army for the construction


well site is not exact on main road.so how can you see the construction site.its 45-50 feet far from main road.i wonder how u see a desert there.thats a crowdy place.there r also two schools(boy scouts girls and boyz).those school will also shifted to another place.trees are cutting by them,may be they will also add that all place.

are you sure constructions going on, any pictures

Work on Bab-e-Pakistan Complex starts
02.11.06

Press Release


LAHORE: Work on the Bab-e-Pakistan Complex on Walton Road has started under President General Pervez Musharraf's directive. The President approved the construction of the monument on the recommendations of Punjab Chief Minister Mr Pervaiz Ellahi.

http://www.thepost.com.pk/images/DtlImages/66563.jpg

Bab-e-Pakistan signifies great sacrifices and unprecedented courage displayed by the young and old who migrated from India to this cherished homeland of Muslims. It will be a befitting tribute to those who laid down their lives for Pakistan and will be a source of motivation and guidance to our future generations

Though the idea of constructing a national monument by the name of Bab-e-Pakistan was approved by the late General Zia Ul Haq in 1985, but the project could not commence due to various reasons.

President General Pervez Musharraf's decision to assign the project to Lahore Corps facilitated the project's construction in a most economical manner.

The Punjab government has extended financial assistance to Pakistan Army and is maintaining close liaison with the army in execution of this project.

thepost.com.pk

Itefaq Steel mills providing the steel for this project~!
cant wait to c it begin too~!

so finaly its starting

yup

How big is this going to be?? I mean size wise.

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When will the construction begin?

When will the construction begin?
READ!

Work on Bab-e-Pakistan Complex starts

I found an official site for this project:

http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/

Although the idea behind the project is good, in my opinion the design of the monument is extremely mediocre. I wish that they had come up with a better design.

To give you an idea of what I mean, look at the Mughal era monuments and compare them to the monuments we're building nowadays. The Minar-e-Pakistan is pathetic, it doesn't even compare to the Qutub Minar that was built 638 years ago. The Mazar of Quaid is lame compared to Taj Mahal. The neo-Mughal Prime Minister's residence is plain horrible. The proposed Bab-e-Pakistan is another in a long line of awful design that gives me the creeps.

does any one have a Biigger pic???

This is how this projected conceived. The following letter also bears the signature of Late General Zia-ul-Haq.

http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/messofdignitaries/originalmessage.jpg

1985 lmao

totally useless project in my words...dosent add anything to the worth of the country...that money should be spent towards infrastructure development and restoring the existing historical and heritage sites that are in sheer neglect due to lack of funds.

totally useless project in my words...dosent add anything to the worth of the country...that money should be spent towards infrastructure development and restoring the existing historical and heritage sites that are in sheer neglect due to lack of funds.
:nuts: :down:

Any update??

I think adding new monuments and renovating old ones would be the best option...

Where is this place being built and are there any updates on this?

Where is this place being built and are there any updates on this?
http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/messofdignitaries/originalmessage.jpg

work started...

baab-e-epakistan site seems to be hacked if u check there homepage

http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/

some pathetic & hopeless piece of sh!t

Thats an Iranian flag?!?

It says nuclear energy is their right, dumb shits dont know that Pakistan actually supports their bid for nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. :lol:

^^ I'm sure it's 'you know who' and they just put Iranian flag to cover their tracks. :)

^^ I'm sure it's 'you know who' and they just put Iranian flag to cover their tracks. :)

Well I can understand that but then it also pleads Irans case for nuke technology?

their site: deltahacking.persiangig.com

& persiangig.com is a free webspace provider

their site: deltahacking.persiangig.com

& persiangig.com is a free webspace provider

No I was referring to the little Persian flag on the defaced website and the text also. Ofcourse they are not going to buy a domain name because then they will be traceable.

The government should atleast disable the website or put it offline, no website is better than a defaced website! But the morons are probably unaware of their website being hacked

^^ have already sent couple of emails to government.

^^ have already sent couple of emails to government.

Good work!

It says nuclear energy is their right, dumb shits dont know that Pakistan actually supports their bid for nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. :lol:
These dumb haramzaddays can not comprehend such facts because they have their arrogant heads up their asses.

looks like that my emails to president musharraf, other government departsments & Geo worked!


Meanwhile, work on bab-e-pakistan is at full pace. Foundation work almost complete. I couldn't take pictures very close to the site because on duty army Major was unavailable and i wasn't allowed to go further near to the site. This is what i took.


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if iam not wrong this project was handed over to army to construct ^^^ but it says Husnain Cotex

Its being constructed under the control of army.

Can anyone update with some new photos of the renders?

The first post is filled with Red X's.

the website is still hacked, LOL

but good news is project is in full flow.

^^ it was back and now hacked again!!!

LAHORE: Minister for the Chief Minister’s Inspection Team Shuja Khanzada said on Sunday that the Bab-e-Pakistan monument is being constructed on 103 acres at a cost of Rs 2.09 billion.

The monument was a tribute to those who laid down their lives for the sake of Pakistan, he said. The minister was speaking to newsmen at the Bab-e-Pakistan site on Sunday.

The minister expressed his satisfaction with the pace of work. He said that the project would be completed in August 2009. The minister appreciated the efforts of the Project Steering Board and Corps Commander Lieutenant General Shafaat Ullah for removing bottlenecks in the execution of the project. Shuja Khanzada said a modern chahar bagh would be laid.

The minister also commented on the support and keen interest of President Pervez Musharraf, Punjab chief minister Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi, governor Khalid Maqbool for reviving the project.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C04%5C09%5Cstory_9-4-2007_pg7_36

BTW, Rs. 2.09 billion is about $34.4 million US.

2 billion is too much. so it is not the monument only but the area around it will be developed as well. Should be an excellent place after it is completed. However, they are taking too much time until 2009!!!

Such a waste of public money!
The cost of the monument constructed in Islamabad is 1/4th of this!

they are taking so long, i could have completed this in a year, why 2009

i think the they are talking of the whole project which includes school libraries and etc so 2009 is not that bad if they do complete it

can someone show its location on google earth

2 billion is too much. so it is not the monument only but the area around it will be developed as well. Should be an excellent place after it is completed. However, they are taking too much time until 2009!!!

When the project was launched in the Zia period the cost was in millions. U delay the project by 20 years, the cost would be ofcourse in billions then!! :bash:

Never heard of this project.

What is it and how does it benefit Pakistan?

^^ memorials for benefits ?

just another way to get some money in their banks haha

has this been completed? anyone have pictures?

I hope they won't build this.

The need of hour is to follow his principles rather than making statues.

I hope they won't build this.

The need of hour is to follow his principles rather than making statues.

Man dont you ever get freaking tired?

I hope they won't build this.

The need of hour is to follow his principles rather than making statues.
The need of the hour is the END OF....

SENSATIONALISM
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
EMOTIONAL REACTIONS
ILLOGICAL THOUGHT PROCESSES

and other crap that Pakistani's love to spew out of their ass.

Man dont you ever get freaking tired?

Nop :lol:


The need of the hour is the END OF....

SENSATIONALISM
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
EMOTIONAL REACTIONS
ILLOGICAL THOUGHT PROCESSES

and other crap that Pakistani's love to spew out of their ass.

Agree with you so don't become emotional. It was just my personal opinion. No emotional reaction.

Quaid-e-Azam is a founder of Pakistan. All of us think that construction of Bab-e-Pakistan would be a good tribute to his good work. I have no doubt it’s a good thinking but have we ever payed attention to his principles. Jinnah stood for "ordered progress", moderation, gradualism and constitutionalism. Seriously we need to ask ourselves these questions? That was the only motivation behind my thoughts nothing else. Pictures could be hanged any where. Even we have picture in over national assembly too and then all corrupt leaders do corruption right under his picture. Corruption wise we stand at number 7 in the world. We only need to think?

Any way I am not against the construction of his statue. He deserved one but it would be great if we can construct some kind of unique historical buiding which protrays his good work.

Nop :lol:




Agree with you so don't become emotional. It was just my personal opinion. No emotional reaction.

Quaid-e-Azam is a founder of Pakistan. All of us think that construction of Bab-e-Pakistan would be a good tribute to his good work. I have no doubt it’s a good thinking but have we ever payed attention to his principles. Jinnah stood for "ordered progress", moderation, gradualism and constitutionalism. Seriously we need to ask ourselves these questions? That was the only motivation behind my thoughts nothing else. Pictures could be hanged any where. Even we have picture in over national assembly too and then all corrupt leaders do corruption right under his picture. Corruption wise we stand at number 7 in the world. We only need to think?

Actually we're better than 38 countries, equal to 4 other countries and worse then the rest. The 2007 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index (http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/2007-transparency-international-corruption-perceptions.html)

i say this is a good development which would give an uplift to the area with software park being made there is well, this can become another potential commerical district which could generate alot of revenue. they should just get rid of the sabzi mandi, and build a new state of the art one somewhere in johar town and use that land for another big real estate project or expansion of software house

yes, agreed that the project will be an interesting addition.....BUT whats the completion date now? Has it even started?

Agree with you so don't become emotional

There was nothing emotional about my STATEMENT.:)

completion date is september 2008

Do you think they will be able to complete it till Sep 2008???

LAHORE, Aug 20: The deadline for the completion of the historic Bab-i-Pakistan project, a monument being built in the memory of hundreds of thousands of Muslims who came here from India after partition in 1947, has been extended to six months or so.
Conceived some 23 years ago, the project on Walton Road kicked off in November 2006 with a target period of 30 months for its completion.

“Sixty per cent of the work has been completed, but improvement in design and its overall layout has necessitated extension in the deadline for another six months or so,” Bab-i-Pakistan Project Director Brig Asif Murad told Dawn on Wednesday.

He said raising of the adjacent Walton Road level forced the project builders to review its design accordingly. Besides the monument, he said, a library, an auditorium, an art gallery, a jogging track, six bara daris, a number of fountains, two high schools and a picturesque landscape had been developed on 103 acres. The construction of high schools for boys and girls would begin this month.

Brig Asif said the Punjab government had allocated Rs2.5 billion for the whole project while the Project Steering Board, headed by the Lahore Corps Commander, is implementing it. The Pak Army Engineering chief was monitoring the project and the army engineering was also giving its input, he added.

He said after completion of the project, it would be given under the administrative control of the provincial government’s information and culture department.

Answering a question, he said top-quality material tested by laboratories of international standards was being used in the construction. He said Hasnain Cotex was awarded the contract of construction for being the lowest bidder and Nespak, too, was giving its valuable advice.

The Bab-i-Pakistan project will be the biggest monument of the country. According to Brig Asif, a presidential directive was issued in 1985 regarding its construction. More than 700,000 refugees had gathered at this point (the largest refugee camp) and it was also visited by Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah.

Former Punjab chief minister, the late Ghulam Haider Wyne, whose family members were among the refugees, announced the construction of the monument in 1992 to pay homage to the people who lost their lives and property during the Independence Movement.

Nawaz Sharif, the then prime minister, laid foundation stone the same year.The proposed project was, however, put on the backburner till former president Pervez Musharraf ordered its revival in early 2000 and performed the ground-breaking of the project in 2005. Musharraf in his last speech to the nation as president had claimed credit for launching the project.

There were an army unit, a police post, two schools, scouts camp and a katchi abadi on about 50 acres of (103-acre) land. The government, however, managed to retrieve it from them.

The two high schools for boys and girls and scouts camp have been functioning in the vicinity of the Bab-i-Pakistan.


http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/belxeeb_2008/baab.jpg

Source: Dawn E-Paper

I think Mushy spoke about this project in his last speech.

Hopefully it will be completed within a year.

I think Mushy spoke about this project in his last speech.

Hopefully it will be completed within a year.

Yes he did :no:

this project should be completed by now

The site of this momument is near my house althu not clearly visible from road due to trees and wall. I cant remember when last time i saw some activity over there.

why dont you try to take some pictures from the site

i belive they are waiting for walton road to complete before they start.

where is the site?

Walton Cantt Lahore

how pathatic are the contractors in paksitan. this has been in the pipeline for 23 yeras and still only 60% completed. Compare this with NCA in islamabad that took 28 years to be completed. God help us all.

Look at our persistency and dedication :lol: we dont give up.

come on man cheers. lets pray for a good leader.
well about NCA i have never seen a single NCA student who is in favor of another campus. same with teachers. they say that isloo campus should be given a different name, Lahore campus has a rich history and bla bla bla...

^^ yeah a good leader rather than a feeder. We need someone Like the man on your avatar.

http://www.app.com.pk/photo/photo_lib/10-02-2009/41ac76de1bd39ea28a5152e2d8db8560.jpg

Shahbaz annoyed at delay in completion of Baab-e-Pakistan

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

LAHORE: Chief Minister Mian Shahbaz Sharif, expressing dissatisfaction over the delay in the construction of the Baab-e-Pakistan on Tuesday, said that like other schemes, the project had also been delayed during the past eight years despite the availability of funds.

He said the criminal negligence was also displayed in the accomplishment of the other projects for the welfare of masses. He issued directions for the review of all the aspects of the project and constitution of a high level committee for its early completion. While taking strict notice of importing marble worth more than Rs700 million for the project, he said the country could not afford expenditure of huge foreign exchange on the import of the costly stone.

The chief minister stated this during a briefing held to review implementation of the project of Baab-e-Pakistan at Walton. Member National Assembly Khawaja Saad Rafiq, members provincial assembly Col (retd) Shuja Khanzada, Yasin Sohal, Project Director Brig Asif Murad, Secretary Finance and other officers concerned were also present on the occasion. Col (retd) Shuja Khanzada and the project director gave a detailed briefing regarding the pace of work on Baab-e-Pakistan.

The chief minister said the Baab-e-Pakistan Project should have been completed in the last year and there was no hurdle in its completion as all the funds were available for the project but the construction company unjustifiably delayed its completion and the pace of work was also slow. He lamented over delay in the project, being carried out in the memory of those who made sacrifices for the Pakistan Movement

wow after so many months we got atleast some news abt it "Qaiser Bhai nai to ghar say nikalna nai Bab e Pakistan ki update k liye" :wink: hamain to isi tarhan guzara karna parey ga

I thought that this project was dead can any one tell us that how much amount of work had alredy been completed

wow after so many months we got atleast some news abt it "Qaiser Bhai nai to ghar say nikalna nai Bab e Pakistan ki update k liye" :wink: hamain to isi tarhan guzara karna parey ga

I thought that this project was dead can any one tell us that how much amount of work had alredy been completed
:laugh:

hahaha sorry yar i will try my best to take some photos asap

why they taking so long to build that? due to financial crises or the reason is something else?

the construction is halted for more than a year before the new goverment cause of unknown reasons

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=180661


modz !!!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=180661


modz !!!!

you are trying to take us back in the past?

you are trying to take us back in the past?

no i want to merge both threads

Good idea rana ji modz could u plz take this up and merge both threads. thanx

CHIEF Minister Mian Shahbaz Sharif on Friday expressed his indignation over the delay in the completion of Baab-e-Pakistan project.

He said that despite his instructions last year, neither the pace of work on the project was accelerated nor any boys and girls schools, which were part of the project, were completed.

During his visit to Baab-e-Pakistan on the Walton Road, the chief minister said the historic project to mark the sacrifices of the forefathers of the nation for the creation of the country was vital and no further delay would be tolerated in this regard. He said the criminal negligence was shown by the former rulers during the last eight years towards the project and the project was still incomplete despite the availability of funds.

Shahbaz said that during his visit to the Baab-e-Pakistan last year, he had issued instructions for the early completion of the project but the pace of work had not been expedited satisfactorily. He said nothing could be more important than education but the boys and girls schools had also not been completed.

The CM said that though the common man was deprived of even basic necessities, there was a plan to import stone worth Rs 700 million from abroad for the project which was immediately stopped and instructions were issued for using only the local material. He said the country could not afford wastage of resources and along with maintaining quality of development projects, austerity would also have to be ensured. He said that no effort should be spared in the early completion of the project and schools should also be completed on a priority basis.

Earlier, Project Director Brig Asif Murad gave a detailed briefing regarding the project. He said the project, which was started in 2006, was to be completed in 2008.

Member National Assembly Kh Saad Rafiq informed the chief minister about the causes of the delay.

Members Provincial Assembly Col (Retd) Shuja Khanzada, Mian Naseer Ahmed, Muhammad Yaseen Sohal, and officers concerned were also present.

does any one have any new images or the final render how it would look like [please)

^^ i think there was no change in the render . the render is still the same as it was during the start of the project. www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/pakistanproject.htm

Anyone has any idea how much it is completed?????

it was very much complete as said b QM coz its near his home in walton but dont know the current status

Here are some pics I took today! pic quality is really bad, but It seemed like a dead project to me! there was no worker & machine at site!

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/stronghearted87/Lahore%20Infrastructure/06042010021.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/stronghearted87/Lahore%20Infrastructure/06042010025.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/stronghearted87/Lahore%20Infrastructure/06042010026.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/stronghearted87/Lahore%20Infrastructure/06042010027.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/stronghearted87/Lahore%20Infrastructure/06042010029.jpg

@Mohsin Shahbash

banda aik hi eyy kam da hahahah

Well done Satrong Hearted :)

@Mohsin Shahbash

banda aik hi eyy kam da hahahah

Well done Satrong Hearted :)

:laugh:

Thanx Rana saab:D

wo punjabi main kaha hai hahaha pata acha lagta hai satrong kehna hahaha :)

for these pics, StrongHearted!!! I am a researcher based in the US and have been following the progress of this monument for a while. The pics and comments posted by you and other folks on this thread have been really helpful for me to keep up with the latest on what's happening with the the Bab-e-Pakistan memorial. Thank you :)

So I never figured it out! Why are they making this again!

^^What do u mean by again???
Its not even close to finish first time....

^^What do u mean by again???
Its not even close to finish first time....

When I said "again" I meant that as a question! I know its weird but I hear people say it all the time!

What the Question really meant is "Why are they making this. Whats the memorial for".

^^:)

i went through whole thread couldn't find a good render so i decided to share few pics of render.
http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/archiotecture_bab/3.jpg
http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/archiotecture_bab/2.jpg
http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/archiotecture_bab/1.jpg
http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/archiotecture_bab/4.jpg
http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/facilities/2.jpg
http://www.bab-e-pakistan.gov.pk/facilities/1.jpg

When I said "again" I meant that as a question! I know its weird but I hear people say it all the time!

What the Question really meant is "Why are they making this. Whats the memorial for".

here is a bit information i hope it will be helpful:)
The idea of Bab-e-Pakistan was conceived by Late Lt. Gen. Ghulam Jillani, Governor Punjab, in 1985. He discussed it with the President of Pakistan who readily accepted the idea and immediately issued a letter under his own signatures to Governor Punjab for a go ahead on the Project.

The project was formulated in 1991 under the name and style of National Memorial Bab-e-Pakistan with the following aims:-



1) To set up a befitting complex in memory of those who in the words of
Quaid-i-Azam were “The valiant fighters in our cause who readily sacrificed all they had, including their lives, to make Pakistan possible”.

2) To create a part of our history, by preserving significant remains of the Walton Camp and developing the vast surround in the Walton, so as to provide a place where one could pay respect to the memory of those who died and suffered in the march to Freedom: to the memory of those who passed through the perilous process, millions who dreamed, struggled but could not make it to Walton even.
3) To acknowledge and commemorate selfless contribution made by those who
contributed in some measures small or large to the alleviation of the trials, tribulations and miseries of the mass of refugees who arrived daily in Pakistan in search of the promised land.

So I never figured it out! Why are they making this again!

Dude you gotta start using your question marks :laugh:

CM reviews Bab-e-Pakistan’s construction

Punjab Chief Minister Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif presided over a high level meeting to review the progress on the Bab-e-Pakistan complex project at the Chief Minister’s Secretariat on Thursday.

The CM said the Bab-e-Pakistan was important as it was dedicated to the nation’s forefathers who rendered sacrifices for the country and that the project would highlight their sacrifices and make the youth aware about the Pakistan Movement.

He directed that the project, which had been delays, be completed within the specified time frame. A number of decisions regarding the project’s completion were also taken. The Bab-e-Pakistan Project Director Col (R) Shabbir and Project Secretary Dr Allah Bakhsh Malik gave a detailed briefing about the project’s construction and the reasons behind the delay. Corps Commander Lt Gen Rashid Mehmood, GOC Maj Gen Azeem Asif, Planning and Development chairman, the finance, communication and works and information departments’ secretaries, Lahore division commissioner and other officers were also present.

ENOUGH of these monuments...use the money to build a school or hospital

leaving that aside I think this one is under construction for more than 4 yrs.

leaving that aside I think this one is under construction for more than 4 yrs.

If I remember correctly, its foundation stone was laid in early 90's during the first tenure of Nawaz Sharif as PM:old::omg:

any updates....cancelled, completed, or wht....????????????????

^^
On hold

Is this still on hold or have they restarted work

^^
I saw a crane a couple of months back while driving on Walton road. Don't know what was it for.... Will confirm about this soon.

yesterday SS stated that tiles/Stones were being imported from Paris so he didn't approved it and he didn't answered the question about completion date of Bab-e-Pakistan. To me he didn't seem interested in completing pervez ILahi's project.

yesterday SS stated that tiles/Stones were being imported from Paris so he didn't approved it and he didn't answered the question about completion date of Bab-e-Pakistan. To me he didn't seem interested in completing pervez ILahi's project.

It was actually Musharrafs project not elahis, just like Ring road and expo center, he only took credit for being CM but it was all directed by Musharraf.

It was actually Musharrafs project not elahis, just like Ring road and expo center, he only took credit for being CM but it was all directed by Musharraf.
Original idea was under Zia, so it's been kicking around forever. It was revived under Musharraf.

so we will have to wait for another dictator for its completion

Musharraf will return in next few months, so we can expect all these projects to be completed.

May be this project hurts democracy :lol:

Original idea was under Zia, so it's been kicking around forever. It was revived under Musharraf.

There was only a vision. just like RR which was not taken seriously by any gov.

But when Musharraf came to power, they turned the vision into actual plans and started working on them.

so we will have to wait for another dictator for its completion
That's what I'm thinking.

Musharraf will return in next few months, so we can expect all these projects to be completed.

:rofl:

There was only a vision. just like RR which was not taken seriously by any gov.

But when Musharraf came to power, they turned the vision into actual plans and started working on them.

+1, they worked really hard for 8 years to complete a single interchange of RR.

+1, they worked really hard for 8 years to complete a single interchange of RR.

project started in 2005 and the gov. went in 2007, that's 2 years according to my calculations unless you use a different type of mathematics.

..and secondly there were 3 intercharges they worked on, not one.

project started in 2005 and the gov. went in 2007, that's 2 years according to my calculations unless you use a different type of mathematics.

..and secondly there were 3 intercharges they worked on, not one.

Dude I agreed with you that they worked really hard to turn the 'visions' into 'actual' plans. Don't get hyper and no need for clarifications.

This is a discussion on Bab e Pakistan, no Mush vs. SS/NS vs. Zardari vs. AH. Please.

i dont think this project is as important as eduction, electricity and a lot of other projects of greater urgency so it can be put in the backburner. and this thread should be locked.

By that criteria a lot of threads would need to be locked. Education, electricity, clean water, affordable housing and other national development are important, and have their own threads already, I believe.

ok i take back the 'lock this thread' part. But dont lose sleep over it.

There was only a vision. just like RR which was not taken seriously by any gov.

But when Musharraf came to power, they turned the vision into actual plans and started working on them.

+1, they worked really hard for 8 years to complete a single interchange of RR.

project started in 2005 and the gov. went in 2007, that's 2 years according to my calculations unless you use a different type of mathematics.

..and secondly there were 3 intercharges they worked on, not one.

Dude I agreed with you that they worked really hard to turn the 'visions' into 'actual' plans. Don't get hyper and no need for clarifications.
thats so typical you, pehle use uksagte hai, aur jab wo react karta hai, with valid argumentation, you try to act smart :-) haha tu cheez hai waise...

Agree with SH!

What is it that you agree with?

MODs plz remove the irrelevant discussion. For the time being, no work is going on, so its better to lock this thread...

There was only a vision. just like RR which was not taken seriously by any gov.

But when Musharraf came to power, they turned the vision into actual plans and started working on them.

Give me a break. During Musharaf rule no big development happened in Lahore. I will give credit to Musharaf for finishing up mega project Gawadar and the costal highway thats about it :)

What is it that you agree with?

About Ring road :)

@Mods! Yes lock this thread.

WALTON | Baab-e-Pakistan | Monument | On Hold

Also lock this thread.