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Schmeek July 25th, 2007, 06:51 PM Oh yeah good find PJ:) It is of quite a significant size isn't it? A lot taller than I would have imagined. I'll have to take another look at the site 'cos I can't remember what is behind it; I would have thought the larger block would block the(great)views that some of the houses enjoy behind on the slopes of Totterdown?
PJ1979 July 27th, 2007, 10:45 AM I can't believe you could actually get that many buildings on the site at all! Not sure what the effect on the views from Totterdown might be, but I guess its quite a long way down Bath Road, where the hill is really steep and high, so it might not even block any view or even appear on the skyline!
What do you think the chances are of it getting permission?
I saw a digger parking at the bottom of the ramp this morning, looks like they might be clearing more of the site again! Quality if this happens, makes me think they will go the same all along the river bank back to the arena.
dronkula July 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM Which old Garage site is this? The one near the Turnpike pub on the side of the road leading into town or the one by the bridge next to The Paintworks site on the other side of the road?
Both sites are prime sites for redevelopment though. And I like the idea of more 4 storey terrace houses rather than just apartment blocks. It's more in keeping with the rest of the area.
PJ1979 July 27th, 2007, 02:19 PM Its the one by the bridge next to paintworks. I know what you mean, it has a some town houses but a few more might be better!
The other garage next to the turnpike has recently got permission for a 4 storey block of 21 apartments with access from stanley road at the rear.
The link is:
http://e2eweb.bristol-city.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?keyval=J8VM01DNLM000&searchtype=PROPERTY&module=P3
Schmeek July 27th, 2007, 02:23 PM I'd assumed that it was the garage on the turnpike side of the road. Looking at the plans again it is clearly the one under the bridge, which is great news! Could be the start of something great happening along the river, as PJ says. And I suppose there is no danger of it blocking views being that far down.
PJ1979 July 31st, 2007, 11:35 AM Dear all. Just found a bit more about Bridewell Island. Urban Splash are working with Space Craft Architects and the following is from their website:
http://www.spacecraft-architects.com/spacecraft1.htm
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Urban Splash working with Space Craft Architects has won the competition to restore and develop the Bridewell Island site in the heart of Bristol. Following a shortlisting process they beat off competition from five other teams in a hotly contested selection process. This fantastic group of listed buildings includes a former fire station, police station, prison and magistrates courts, dating back to 1890 and forms an entire city block located in a strategically important position between the main retail centre of Broadmead and Harbourside. The site, which has laid derelict for a number of years will be converted into a mixed use scheme based around shops, cafes, restaurants, offices and studios. There will also be a small number of serviced apartments, but no flats in the conventional sense. These will be located as new pavilions on the roof of the fire station; hardly visible when viewed from the tight nearby streets but providing a striking symbol of change from a distance. The Court Yard will be the beating heart of the scheme bringing life to the rejuvenated Bridewell Island.
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5505/bridewellcourtyardkd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Nik Randall, Director of Space Craft Architects says;
“This is a fantastic opportunity to breathe new life into these fabulous buildings. We developed our ideas around a ‘light touch’ as we felt the buildings themselves had so much to offer and we wanted to avoid just carving them up into flats. We also wanted to preserve the external appearance which is very familiar to the people of Bristol, and so we have internalised the scheme. The central service yard will become a vibrant courtyard with shops, cafes and bars. We’ve even got a health club in the basement which will use the former cells as steam rooms! It’s strange in a way, as we have almost designed ourselves out of the scheme.”
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9559/bridewellplanxy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The proposals will be worked up in close consultation with the Bristol City Council and local people in readiness for a planning application early in 2007.
dronkula July 31st, 2007, 05:27 PM I just wish they'd get on with this one. When the Cabot Circus stuff is open late next year, this end of Broadmead is going to really suffer because everyone will go to the other end.
It looks like they're going after a very similar demographic as the development around Quaker Friars. Can Bristol sustain two developments with the same target audience as this?
Looks fab though.
Delirium July 31st, 2007, 09:21 PM I don't think it would suffer too much at all as you have to remember that there is a great deal of pedestrian traffic that travels from one centre (Broadmead) to the other (Park street etc.)
and if anything it would lead to a more even distribution of things in the centre as it is closing the gap between those two areas,
plus it's the start of the redevelopment around Nelson street which i quite like to be honest because its sort of canyon-esque but there is nothing here (aswell as being rather grotty) and considering its in a very Central location is rather shameful.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/dsdsd.jpg
This area sort of creates a 'plug' that stunts internal growth of the centre methinks :shifty: those streets in between it and Corn St. (small and Broad street)are rather dead most of the time becuase of it (if that makes sense) as no-one really goes down there (but there are some clubs and restaurants but they're on a rather precarious existance from what i've heard...)
bristolboy August 1st, 2007, 12:02 AM Has anyone seen the design for the Cinema De Lux in leicester it is very impressive with metal cladding. shame bristols cinema isnt going to be as bold as that.
http://www.highcrossleicester.com/galleryview-435.htm
Delirium August 1st, 2007, 12:28 AM Its impressive though with all thats going on in Leicester, there's some really top notch things going on there! hopefully their image problem of being rather bland, dull and grim will be gone in the next decade :yes:
bristolboy August 1st, 2007, 10:44 AM Its impressive though with all thats going on in Leicester, there's some really top notch things going on there! hopefully their image problem of being rather bland, dull and grim will be gone in the next decade :yes:
Mind you Leicester needs it as it does look rarther grim up there.
iv signed your petition hope New Street does get developed as it isnt a very good gateway into birmingham. Shopping center is dark and very dated.:cheers:
PJ1979 August 1st, 2007, 01:27 PM For those that are interested in Broadmead
Due to start later in the year, continue after christmas and complete before the opening of Cabot Circus. The Broadmead Bid Phase Two works are intended to improve the standard of the public realm in the existing Broadmead. The work includes new paving for all the four main streets in broadmead, new benches, bins, bollards, lighting, planting and market trader stalls. This is the plan:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2541/untitled1so4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Broadmead Bid Webpage has newsletters with more detail and the pdf of this plan. The link is: http://www.bristolbroadmead.co.uk/BID/
The plan appears to define some areas in broadmead as puclic seating areas. Long term the installation of further kiosk buildings and short term the removal of the vending vans to new market stalls is Merchants Street North will help improve the street scene.
Personally I think improving broadmead is a good thing, I don't think the work will make existing broadmead amazing but hopefully it will help it to attract new occupiers. Clearly there is a worry the Cabot circus will result in alot of vacant units in Broadmead. Having just got back from Norwich and seeing its retail offer, I'm reasonably confident that existing broadmead will prosper after the inevitable shuffle round of stores.
In addition work on the Galleries is also on going, including the remove of the blue cannopies on Merchant Street South, the relocation of the lifts in the centre and the extension of TK MAXX into the roof space.
PJ1979 August 1st, 2007, 04:18 PM This is a link to the latest St Pauls Planning Policy Document
http://www.stpaulsunlimited.org.uk/spnp/report/index.htm
Contains information on the multitute of development sites in St Paul's include One Dove Lane.
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7564/stpaulsgf0.png (http://imageshack.us)
Schmeek August 1st, 2007, 07:38 PM Has anyone seen the design for the Cinema De Lux in leicester it is very impressive with metal cladding. shame bristols cinema isnt going to be as bold as that.
http://www.highcrossleicester.com/galleryview-435.htm
Yes I noticed Leicester's version whilst trying to find info on Bristols cinema de lux. Has anyone seen any renders? I can't believe there only seem to be about three images of the whole Cabot circus dev. floating around out there, and they're all internal. Or have I missed something?
I think by the end of next year Bristol will be pretty smart in general with all the work happening at the moment. One building that will especially let the side down is the Premier travel inn by st. James Barton. It is in dire need of knocking down or at the very least a substantial re-clad, although I would much prefer the former.
Schmeek August 1st, 2007, 07:45 PM Oh actually there is this one but it dosen't tell thee much really.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/mq_model_banner.jpg
yogib52 August 1st, 2007, 08:09 PM Afternoon Guy's
I was walking down Victoria Street today and I have noticed that they have started removing the scaffolding /shroud around Hartwell House (http://www.hartwellhouse.net/) as soon as it is completely down I will try and get some pictures.
Also talking about pictures of building, it would be great if we could get some pictures added to the list of building under Bristol's entries for the UK & Eire Quick search. How do you go about adding pictures? We haven't even got a pic for Castlemead our current tallest!!!
Cheers
Yogib52
Schmeek August 1st, 2007, 09:00 PM Yes I noticed the scaffold coming down and first impressons are good.
Schmeek August 2nd, 2007, 01:52 AM Don't know if anyone has seen this one before - it says in 'properties' it was created a few weeks ago, but does this mean it was just added to the website on that date? I don't think the buildings behind the bridge are going to happen anymore but I prefer them to the latest plans I've seen. I pulled it from the Niall Mcloughlin website by the way http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.niallmclaughlin.com/Images/0310_R_E_004.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.niallmclaughlin.com/0310_3.html&h=400&w=367&sz=29&hl=en&start=20&um=1&tbnid=0BsUeP1OTfZ32M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbristol%2Btemple%2Bquay%2B2%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX
Temple quay2
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Delirium August 2nd, 2007, 03:15 AM ^^ They look alright though but i wish there was something taller and more bulkyish
hopefully in a few years we will have a "proper" city centre (of which will be incredibly extensive and dense when you think about it) so to speak rather just a few random areas in the middle of town, (i still forget Redcliffe is meant to be in the centre :shifty:)
One of the main things i really like is how St Pauls is beginning to reattach itself to the surrounding areas to the south :yes: its actually very pretty for the most part.
I just hope The area around nelson street starts soon ( the height and density of the buildings around there is perfect but the architecture is grotty and grim and the place at ground level bar a few cafes and restaurants such as Fuschia/shanghai nights is dead and sort of seedy.)
And thank you BristolBoy for signing the petition, Birmingham has been through and had to put up with ALOT of Shit for along time it needs respect dammit!
Pickle33 August 6th, 2007, 07:39 PM They've started putting the blue glass panels on the Raddison Hotel (Old B&W Tower). They're really dark blue at the bottom, but looking at the renders they get much lighter blue towards the top.
bristolboy August 7th, 2007, 08:19 PM Glad to hear that the glass is going up. This development seems to be taking ages with very little happening. Looks like we are going to need a new photo update of all the Bristol developments soon.
BRISTOL
CAPITAL CITY OF THE SOUTH WEST
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Schmeek August 7th, 2007, 10:25 PM Don't worry schmeek's camera is coming out very soon.....just been hanging on a bit to ensure things have moved on significantly from my last update.
Any special requests people?
Delirium August 8th, 2007, 06:03 AM just curious as to whats going on with the old Bristol brewery etc. 9you know where) and whether they have actually started anything...
also just a little question, what's the type/ brand etc. of camera you use Scmeek?
dronkula August 8th, 2007, 03:50 PM On a different subject(ish).
Points West are reporting that the Harbourside development was criticised today in a major national newspaper and one of the new buildings was listed as one of the worst new developments in the country.
Anyone know which newspaper this was?
Delirium August 8th, 2007, 07:00 PM ^^ the Times.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/architecture_and_design/article2208677.ece
fair enough, its been quite the anti climax.
I swear that hotel Ibis chain has some of the ugliest buildings around (for the UK at least)
the one in Amsterdam is alright, but still.
clarky August 8th, 2007, 07:43 PM Sorry for the pic quality i had to use my mobile.
8th August 2007
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Delirium August 8th, 2007, 09:58 PM well for a mobile thats some amazing quality there. (or maybe i should get a new phone...)
Schmeek August 8th, 2007, 10:29 PM Nice 1 clarky. I'll leave a few of my photos out as you've already covered some angles. I totally agree with that article about the crescent building and harbourside in general. It makes me angry to see what is being built there, a pile of (shiny) shite which dosen't deserve to sit on a piece of land that importance. How on earth did we end up with all this after so much consultation and beauracracy? I had to force myself just to go down there for a few photos!
Anyways, heres a photo fest:
Cabot circus
The anchor store with most of the glass panelling in place
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01708.jpg
Far left is the support which will eventually hold the bridge(well i presume anyway!). In the middle/left is phoenix court.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01710.jpg
Norwest Holst's car park from rear.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01707.jpg
From the south looking towards the Quakers' Friars section.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01700.jpg
Looking down new North street with the roof well underway.
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Central street. Not sure whether the bridges are permanent.
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The Brewery/Finzels area.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01694.jpg
Steel frame progressing
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Demolition works
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The rear of the brewery. Most demolition appears complete now.
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Redcliffe
St. Thomas street east, New offices
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01689.jpg
St. Thomas street/Portwall lane site.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01688-1.jpg
Temple quay 2
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This is the other side of Avon street. They had an open day last weekend which displayed all the artifacts which had been found through excavation-Old glass towers and furnesses. It now appears they diggers are at it again flattening the site which could mean we're one step closer to construction here:)
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Broad quay
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Harbourside:ohno:
The latest building to emerge....
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Schmeek August 9th, 2007, 01:31 AM Its a sony cybershot DSC F-88 Helium.
danz013 August 9th, 2007, 03:32 AM looks like theirs lots of stuff going off in Bristol.... how tall is that tower... have you got a summary page to this thread? maybe you should update the first post into a summary so we can all see whats going ...it seems you have much more than whats displayed on the front page.
bristolboy August 9th, 2007, 10:27 AM Great pictures guys well done for taking those. The bridges you see in the cabot circus photos are going to be part of the development so are there to stay. The roof structure is looking good should be amazing when it is finished.
The old bristol and west building is looking good good with the blue glass so will be an improvment on what it was like before. Im just amazed how much development we have got going on in bristol. Cant wait till 2008 when most of it is finished. Bring on more!!!!:cheers:
BRISTOL
A GREAT BRITISH CITY
Delirium August 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM Thank you for all the effort you went to:cheers::cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: it must of been quite the walk! very much appreciated.
I need a new camera as my old one's packed up completely now (but to be fair it wasn't that good to begin with :shifty: it would scream whenever you'd turn the thing on.) i think i'll start a Photoblog come the end of this month like some of the other forumers have been doing for a while,
Cabot circus
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01710.jpg
Probably one of the few good things to come from the postwar planners is the the Temple way Bond street road, it makes things seem less 'provincial' and more 'urban' of sorts :shifty: granted it severed off Old market street but still-
(and i'm sort of starting to like phoenix court)
The Brewery/Finzels area.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01694.jpg
You can see how the fire dept. HQ is starting to become an anomaly or sorts in these pics.
St. Thomas street east, New offices
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01689.jpg
It looks quite nice! i can remember when it was garages, there's an east asian supermarket and the restaurant Dynasty (thats quite popular with the chinese)right by it
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One word for the Harbourside-Abysmal,
i say we find some art students and the like, and give it a makeover cover it in graffiti and stencils and a giant North korean mural.
still better than hving the orion though ;)
Schmeek August 9th, 2007, 12:50 PM Yes it took a bit longer than I had anticipated! I decided to leave out a few other projects(in case you were wondering), as I deemed them to be at an irrelevant stage; Colston Hall, Flats on winterstoke road(where the megabowl was), Paragon, Urban splash Lake shore, and the Stokes croft/gloucester rd site were all pretty much at the same state -pile of rubble, with the exception of Lake shore which is basically still just a steel frame.
Phoenix court has grown on me as well. I think it is more the case that it has highlighted the tired ochre building next door as in need of a makeover. Or pulling down for something better! The hotel should add nicely to the urbanity down that side once that gets going.
Delirium August 9th, 2007, 01:15 PM Yes it took a bit longer than I had anticipated! I decided to leave out a few other projects(in case you were wondering), as I deemed them to be at an irrelevant stage; Colston Hall, Flats on winterstoke road(where the megabowl was), Paragon, Urban splash Lake shore, and the Stokes croft/gloucester rd site were all pretty much at the same state -pile of rubble, with the exception of Lake shore which is basically still just a steel frame.
Phoenix court has grown on me as well. I think it is more the case that it has highlighted the tired ochre building next door as in need of a makeover. Or pulling down for something better! The hotel should add nicely to the urbanity down that side once that gets going.
i think it should be kept for a while, lest we end up something like whats on the harbourside, or the orion... (although something as tall as it would be nice.)
yeah im also looking foward to seeing how the hotel turns out.
jjmacjj August 9th, 2007, 01:34 PM Great photos chaps; much appreciated!! I'm gonna stick me neck out on the harbourside stuff though (not being one to shy away from controvesy) & stand firm with the view that the finished product is gonna be above average. Now, i realise that all the evidence points to the contrary & from some angles some of the buildings are a disgrace but I think the new orange & white one with the wraps coming off (pictured above) is the low cost homes provision & whilst i don't agree in any way with Crest chucking up an abortion of a building 'cos it's for poor people' i spose it's inevitable that they make it look worse than their -ahem- 'luxury' offerings near by. I think the 2 all glass offices that'll be built (pending approval) on Anchor Road will be pretty slick & will mean the one shown will be hidden away in a fairly dense area. The backs of the Crescent & the semi circle thingys will also be less prominent when the rest of the development is completed - One of the biggest problems is the phased delivery of the area, some of the most prominent bits now will soon be just the roadside elements in a development that will be massively pedestianised, dense & full of people milling around (Office workers, residents, Cafe goers etc). The perception of the space when wandering around it finished will be very different to the perception at the moment of walking round a part building site, part wasteland, part 'oddly out of place' buildings. Having said all that; if, when the wraps come off the front of the crescent it looks shit, I'll have to agree with you all.......
dronkula August 9th, 2007, 06:09 PM I've updated the first post on this thread to be an overview of everything that's going on - but I know I've missed loads so tell me what's missing and I'll add it in.
Schmeek August 10th, 2007, 12:26 AM Nicely done Dronkula. Which hotel is number 16? And have you seen any plans of what they're doing at the industrial museum?
I know what you are saying JJ, and I realise the finished article will be an all-together different experience. But I just wish they had gone for something completely different and maybe unique. There's no imagination there, on a prime location in what has been historically a very imaginative city. An opportunity wasted.
IMO it should have been something which made the country/Europe stand up and take notice. Like the Clifton suspension Bridge does. Not just a fairground of tacky shops and apartments.
Does anyone know if there have been any plans to build a new bridge between the industrial museum and the Plimsoll? I think the city is sooo badly crying out for this connection. It surely would boost/regenerate the island on which the ss GB sits? And perhaps solve many traffic problems.
PS don't know if many of you are aware of this?
On Sisk's website http://www.sisk.co.uk/sisk/sisk/www/default.asp?magpage=28&id=248&wid=3
The Western Region is delighted to have been appointed as the main contractor for the exciting St Catherine’s Court development in the heart of the Clifton area of Bristol.
Work will commence shortly on the construction of the £8.5m six storey office development on Berkeley Place, Clifton for developer Ashfield Land.
The initial phases consist of clearing the site followed by work ‘in the ground’ to, firstly, stabilise the existing ground and, secondly, to provide the reinforcement to enable the actual construction work to start.
Once finished the transformation of the site will be complete, with the addition of a magnificent commercial building. Senior Contracts Manager, Ray Woodhouse said “this is an exciting project, in a prime location and we are looking forward to working with the appointed consultants AWW Architects, APS Project Management and Cyril Sweett Quantity Surveyors ”
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jjmacjj August 10th, 2007, 03:32 AM I think you're spot on Schmeek with those comments - what they are building will be alright but, at the end of the day, non descript - it's this that's the real shame. As you say, it's the imagination that's lacking from this sort of developement. George Fergusan (the reknowned architect with the suspect dress sense) was a big advocate for a little venice type scheme down here.... this was ignored f& they went for the big box scheme we've ended up with!!!
As for the bridge, it must just be a matter of time... there was certainly an intention & a need identified years ago. Spike Island is coming on strong & with the new Museum, the big development around the SS GB, the pending Wapping Wharf development (big mixed use behind the new museum), the new Aardman HQ & the recently revamped Spike Island Art Gallery; there will be a big flow of foot traffic from the harbourside!!
The Sisk development is part of the Pro Cathedral site at the top of the Triangle. There are some beautiful buildings around here that'll be getting the full treatment so i'm thinking it's gonna be one to look out for....
dronkula August 12th, 2007, 02:59 PM Just a small minor update on the Lakeshore scheme.
Last night I went to the Nightglow at the Balloon Fiesta (which was pretty darn amazing as always btw) but while I was there I noticed that Lakeshore had a stand next to the main arena.
Unfortunately, it was closed cos this was around 9pm (although all the staff seemed to have stayed to watch the Nightglow themselves). But what I did notice was a big date - 6th October 2007, plastered all over the outside.
I'm going to assume that that's the date that the apartments in the complex are going to go on sale. So, by then, all the plans must be finalised and I would expect some work to have started on the site.
bristolboy August 12th, 2007, 04:23 PM Does anyone know when they are gonna start building the new offices in broadmead?
http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries/entries/66/66.pdf
As nothing seems to be happening down there at the moment. It will be a shame if they are not ready at the same time as the rest of the development.
Delirium August 12th, 2007, 06:11 PM ^^ looks good nonetheless, i think its becasue thast by the electric station thingy (:shifty:) is there thats why...
Schmeek August 12th, 2007, 06:41 PM Might be the electric sub-station but think it is more to do with staggering the building work, like they have been doing at harbourside. There has already been enough disruption to the roads down there as it is over the last few years, and I think the logistics of getting all the car park works traffic through another building site might be a little far-fetched for a site as busy as this. Hopefully they will start it next year sometime, when the car park shell is complete ready for fit-out.
Zenith August 12th, 2007, 09:51 PM Hi guys I used to live on the junction of city road and gloucester road, above a pub called the Bristol Comedy pub, not far from Jesters..and a Wetherspoons they were building. Stokes croft basically. Anyway opposite the pub was a derelicty old building that just stayed as it was for years. What has happened to this building, and area? Any pics? I left in 2000.
Delirium August 12th, 2007, 10:01 PM ^^ there are several buildings i can think of, what era was it from?
bristolboy August 13th, 2007, 07:25 PM Hi guys I used to live on the junction of city road and gloucester road, above a pub called the Bristol Comedy pub, not far from Jesters..and a Wetherspoons they were building. Stokes croft basically. Anyway opposite the pub was a derelicty old building that just stayed as it was for years. What has happened to this building, and area? Any pics? I left in 2000.
I think you mean westmoreland house,Im afraid to say it is still direlict, the council have done nothing about having it pulled down. the Wetherspoons pub AKA The Magic Box has now closed down and has been left to ruin. So stokes croft is still pretty much run down. Sorry i couldnt provide you with more postive feedback.:ohno:
bristolboy August 13th, 2007, 07:32 PM just found a pic for you on the bbc website
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content/image_galleries/demolition_list_vote_gallery.shtml?5
bristolboy August 13th, 2007, 07:35 PM Just found a website dedicated to it have a look
http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/westmoreland_house_in.htm
Schmeek August 14th, 2007, 02:04 AM Yes the magic box has gone - it was one hell of a weird place full of freaks when it was open - I suppose I was one of them at times!! The owners of Westmoreland house were supposed to have commenced work renovating it by this summer, or the site would be under compulsive purchase order by the council. This hasn't materalised yet, and the owners are now blaming the council saying they have made planning application but have heard nothing........seems we will be waiting a little while longer.
PJ1979 August 14th, 2007, 10:32 AM Yeah they have been talking about developing Westmorland house forever. Recently the suggestion has been for residential and a community arts/theatre for the Kumba group.
Incidentally the Magic Box has an application to change it into a Comedy Club. Jesters want to move over the road basically.
Other new application news is Temple Way House, (The Clerical Medical Building on Temple Way). An application is in for demolition of existing buildings and construction of 2 no. eight-storey buildings to provide a mixed use development comprising 28,582 sqm of B1 office space and 148 sqm of A1, A3 and A4 floorspace at ground floor level, a new public plaza and associated landscaping, undercroft car parking (to provide 141 spaces) and servicing, access and ancillary works.
Its only just been put in, so the associated documents have not been uploaded yet, but his is the link for then they are:
http://e2eweb.bristol-city.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JMI68MDN0LD00
My friend who works there says that the date for the move out is set for late October early November and I've heard that the Carlyle Skelton Development Group who now own the buildings are really keen to get going. You never know they might start knocking it down after Christmas!!!
On a slightly shitter note, two applications for temporary car parks at temple meads have been granted. The sites are the two plots north of the station adjacent to temple quay (the south of the river bit) They are for two and three years. Dump really, means nothings gonna happen development wise for a while!
Good work on the photos though.
PJ
Bristol Mike August 16th, 2007, 10:28 AM Wow - I don't know how I missed this thread so easily when it's about my home city - stupid! Anyway, so many fab photos of what is actually going on.
To be honest, I don't mind what is going up down at Canon's Marsh. I guess the Ibis Hotel is a bit of a disppointment and maybe a scar but the rest is alright. There's also a new building going up between the Cathedral and Grosvenor Casino down on Anchor Road. I may post some pictures when I have some.
yogib52 August 16th, 2007, 10:52 PM Here's some very disappointing news that made the front cover of the today’s evening post.
MUSEUM'S PLANS HIT BY DELAYS
The new £19 million Museum of Bristol has been hit by delays, which have pushed back the opening date to 2010.
Full story can be seen here:
http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144913&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231190&home=yes&more_nodeId1=144922&contentPK=18126318
On a lighter note - I have been away on a week’s holiday and I am amazed on how much the Cabot circus development has moved on - they have even taken down the two tower cranes working on the large tower above the Harvey Nic's store and the building adjacent to it. I have also noticed that they have started putting the cladding on the tower – which looks very smart, hopefully this building can be an asset to the Bristol skyline.
Am I right in thinking the very top of this building is going to be a restaurant run by Harvey Nic’s? I’m sure I read this somewhere.
dronkula August 17th, 2007, 01:33 AM Well it was inevitable really. It's a project that's being pushed by the council so it was bound to be delayed.
I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the Colston Hall to be finished on time either...
jjmacjj August 17th, 2007, 07:32 AM Not quite sure where this one is? The address is shown as 33-49 Victoria Street & it's an upgrade if a current building.... anyone know which one?
http://www.stridetreglown.co.uk/Architecture/images/offices/RedlandHouse1.jpg
It's on the Stride Treglown website with the follwoing blurb
"This scheme has been submitted for planning permission after a successful stakeholders meeting and redevelops an existing building to provide an extra 3000 sqm net area. The aim is to achieve a landmark gateway building to Bristol that is modern and unapologetic, avoiding pastiche and responding to the local environment through a modern contemporary design.
Natural red sandstone is utilised for boundary treatment, ground level walls and ramp enclosure and details at street level; limestone in panel form to certain expressed elevations; copper standing seam wall cladding; colour coated (silvery grey) aluminium double glazed curtain walling; sun shading to west and south elevations also in the colour coated aluminium; timber soffits to be up lit at night time."
jjmacjj August 17th, 2007, 07:42 AM hmmm.... false alarm, under further investigation (see link) it looks like it's an upgrade of redland house in redland (just north of the city centre) - Stride had the wrong address on their website.... looks quite snazzy though
http://www.urbina.co.uk/u8D.htm
PJ1979 August 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM Latest Image of the Temple Way House redevelopment.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4802/templeway1and2pz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The scheme is two buildings of eight storey's called Temple Way 1 and 2.
jjmacjj August 17th, 2007, 11:59 PM ^^ They look pretty nice but only in Bristol could these be called 'Tower 1' & 'Tower 2'................
It's starting to seem like every development is good quality (which is massively important) but we are lacking that landmark building to give it some identity. Doesn't have to be a skyscraper (though the St Pauls Eco-Tower would fit the bill nicely if ever built), just something iconic, something a bit daring & a bit special........
Bristol Mike August 18th, 2007, 12:25 AM Some pics I've taken within the last week. I'm quite impressed by what is going up, predominantly. Of course there's always a glitch somewhere but here is what I captured.
The New Broadmead Shopping Centre:
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Bristol & West
This is the demolition of the old building which was a bit of an eyesore and seems to be taking forever to demolish!
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?Unkown?
I'm not sure what this is under the scaffolding and what is going to happen with this just outside Temple Meads.
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The Clerical Medical Building
This quite frankly has got to go. It had its place once but now it sticks out like a saw thumb!
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Canon's Marsh
I think it would be fair to say that the constructions here have either been beautiful in every way and really to add to the city or have been sickly additions that actually ruin the whole look of what is intended to be a wonderful new part of the city.
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Maudlin Street
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The Colston Hall
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STATUS - A complete mess (though I'm sure the turn out will be fantastic!)
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Bristol's Biggest Construction - New Broadmead!
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The future Harvey Nicholl's Building along Cabot Circus
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Hopefully I'll have some more pictures to show tomorrow and Sunday.
If you want to see anymore of Bristol just follow this link:
BRISTOL MIKE'S BRISTOL PICS (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=509930)
Delirium August 18th, 2007, 12:55 AM :cheers: You'd need to leave some Bristol for the rest of us! you'll have the whole city covered and i'll have only the dodgy bits of Hartcliffe and Southmead left :lol:
i see what you mean about the Harbourside, what im really glad is that they've planted trees and when they become mature enough they'll make the place very leafy (or hide the ugliness ;)).
i swear wehn one new forumer comes in another goes! the forumer schmeek was on here quite abit (well for a Bristol forumer!) till recently but he seems to have gone abit AWOL.
Bristol Mike August 18th, 2007, 01:22 AM You'd need to leave some Bristol for the rest of us! you'll have the whole city covered and i'll have only the dodgy bits of Hartcliffe and Southmead left
Sorry - couldn't resist. Once you get me going - I'm gone! :lol: Glad to be part of the forum though.
It's funny you should say it but I was just thinking where schmeek has gone to. I'm sure we'll hear from him soon.
Delirium August 18th, 2007, 01:34 AM Sorry - couldn't resist. Once you get me going - I'm gone! :lol: Glad to be part of the forum though.
It's funny you should say it but I was just thinking where schmeek has gone to. I'm sure we'll hear from him soon.
yes it is rather lonely here! :cry: your stay is most welcome:yes::banana:
, its been a while since i've been in town (in fact your pics have shown me how much its changed! usually Brizzle's such a backwater), are there any spots that you recommend photographing? just got a camera coming in for my b-day! and its been ages i wouldn't know where to start! all i can say is we better have a bloody beautiful autumn (yellow red orange leaves galore)
EDIT: did i say ''dodgy bits'' of Hartcliffe and Southmead? what the hell! there are no nice bits ;)
Bristol Mike August 19th, 2007, 01:03 PM I think it''s important to keep this thread going! Here are some pics I took yesterday of the Temple Way area.
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Although the whole design of building 4 is very nice and attractive, I'm not sure about terracotta red. It just doesn't look quite right. But the rest is awesome - some lovely developents. :cheers:
Delirium August 19th, 2007, 03:00 PM its just that for those coming from Temple meads its rather souless don't you think? :shifty: although i think that was more of a problem a few years ago...
Bristol Mike August 19th, 2007, 03:08 PM It was more of a problem then but I think it's beginning to get better. I think the important thing isthat there is an essence of arriving in a big city when you arrive in Temple Meads. You see when you come down the Long Ashton bypass and see the Bristol skyline it looks awesome and when you come down the M32 with houses followed by low-rise department stores followed by tower blocks then the new Broadmead - you feel like entering a big city. If Temple Way had a mix of new offices AND apartments and I guess some shops, the whole area will become alive a bit more.
(The traffic around there is a pain though!!)
dronkula August 19th, 2007, 03:08 PM Still - it's better than the wasteland that was there for about 20 years before hand!
What the area needs though is for the ground floor of those offices to be changed into shops and cafes to add a bit of life to the area. With all those workers there now, you would've thought there would be the demand for more places to cater for them for lunch and stuff.
Bristol Mike August 19th, 2007, 03:09 PM Hi, dronkula. Must have replied at the same time! Great minds think alike, heh heh.
Delirium August 19th, 2007, 03:16 PM unfortunatly the way the buildings were designs its rather awkward at times doing that :ohno: but hopefully the area around Victoria street will become a future main hub for the area.
Schmeek August 19th, 2007, 09:11 PM Hey I'm not AWOL! Been braving the wind and rain in cornwall on a camping holiday:down: , had to abandon last day(today)because our gazebo collapsed along with many other tents on the campsite! Worst summer ever......thought we'd come back to the comfort of urbanity.
Nice 2 see you noticed me gone(or should that be an indication of the level of my geekyness, being too prolific a poster?!)
Some great pics there:cheers: - they say too much time on the computer can be detrimental to your health/fitness, but as I'm sure Bristol Mike knows, it takes a lot of energy walking around on a photo session!
Delirium August 19th, 2007, 10:33 PM :wave: where abouts did ya go?
the strange thing is though while all the bad weather was going on that time (flooding in tewkesbury etc.) Cornwall was basking in the sun so to speak! but its sort of been average here!
Bristol mike seems to have gone to the centre every single day ( i hope he didn't take the bus... it cost way too many££££££££££££ :shifty:)
Bristol Mike August 19th, 2007, 10:46 PM Hope you had a good time in Cornwall despite the rain, hasn't been too bad here at all.
helium - I sometimes catch the bus or I cycle or a I get driven. Whilst a parent goes to work in the morning, I spend the day in town with my camera whether it's specifically to do a photo shoot or to see friends or go shopping - like yesterday when I went to the Galleries.
Delirium August 19th, 2007, 11:06 PM Hope you had a good time in Cornwall despite the rain, hasn't been too bad here at all.
helium - I sometimes catch the bus or I cycle or a I get driven. Whilst a parent goes to work in the morning, I spend the day in town with my camera whether it's specifically to do a photo shoot or to see friends or go shopping - like yesterday when I went to the Galleries.
ah i see! i just hate the Bus thats all :ohno: well the journey is great but its not worth its weight in gold so to speak. plus the inconsistancy :shifty:
bristolboy August 19th, 2007, 11:29 PM Great pics Bristol mike keep them coming. Shame you didnt have a pic of osbourn clakes headquarters as that is my favourite building down there. Just love all the glass and the big atrium. I know what you mean about the building clad in terracotta iv never really taken to it myself.
Gee31 August 19th, 2007, 11:38 PM Does anybody know when they will start on the Small Tower (13 Floors or so) next to the Premier Travel Inn on St James Barton Roundabout??? I thought they would work onit when they did the Magistrates Courts (which is almost finished).
Schmeek August 20th, 2007, 02:40 AM No, I was wondering about that myself.....talking of people going AWOL, it's been a while since you last reported for duty, Gee. Been anywhere nice?
Nice to see we're getting a bit of interest on the Bristol forum now.
Delirium August 20th, 2007, 03:18 AM ^^ don't jinx it :runaway:
PJ1979 August 20th, 2007, 10:46 AM Does anybody know when they will start on the Small Tower (13 Floors or so) next to the Premier Travel Inn on St James Barton Roundabout??? I thought they would work onit when they did the Magistrates Courts (which is almost finished).
Last I heard they had applied for a few changes in the permission for that building, that and they have probably phased it to start when the other finishes to maintain access etc. Its still due to be Key worker housing though!
PJ1979 August 20th, 2007, 10:54 AM Some great Photos Bristol Mike
Your luck is in for the Clerical Medical building, The Developer is planning to demolish it in the new year, so a nice little present for everyone! If they get permission!
Also they are not knocking down the Bristol and West Building. It's taken ages and doesn't really look like it but the site is actually going up not down!
Interesting pic of the flood works scheme at the back of the Colston hall. I would love to see the redevelopment of Trenchard Car park, and the ice rink! The building could be massive because of the change in levels!
Bristol Mike August 20th, 2007, 03:32 PM Thanks for all the kind comments everyone. Just follow the Bristol link in my signature for daily updates with loads of Bristol pics.
It's just as well that the Clerical Medical is going - I've had enough of it. Funny I should discompliment it when I heard they're replacing it with an 8-storey and 4-storey office blocks with shops underneath. Will look interesting - all that has to be done now is for the construction lot to get on with it!
Gee31 August 20th, 2007, 04:51 PM No, I was wondering about that myself.....talking of people going AWOL, it's been a while since you last reported for duty, Gee. Been anywhere nice?
Nice to see we're getting a bit of interest on the Bristol forum now.
I was away for about 8 weeks in Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore about 2 months ago and have just come back from a 2 week trip to... Wait for it... ESSEX!!!... :lol:
I dont think alot of people that are interested in the development of the city (Bristol) know about this forum... Maybe we should tell them somehow... Put reader comments on Evening Post Web Page etc telling them about this website...?
Gee31 August 20th, 2007, 04:57 PM Thanks for all the kind comments everyone. Just follow the Bristol link in my signature for daily updates with loads of Bristol pics.
It's just as well that the Clerical Medical is going - I've had enough of it. Funny I should discompliment it when I heard they're replacing it with an 8-storey and 4-storey office blocks with shops underneath. Will look interesting - all that has to be done now is for the construction lot to get on with it!
Its not a nice building I suppose but still I would have liked a bit of a High rise building here... A Nice 30+ floor skyscraper as this I thought was one of the sites that were earmarked as being potencial hi rise and now we find out its only 8 Floors... Hmmm, we are going to run out of space to build our tall buildings if companies dont put in applications for them. They need to try...
I hope the St Pauls one goes through as beleive it might be a catalyst for other companies to put in higher/taller applications.
Maybe we will have our very own Canery Wharf at Avonmouth with the amount of construction and business going on there... But then again maybe pigs can fly...:ohno:
Gee31 August 20th, 2007, 05:00 PM Last I heard they had applied for a few changes in the permission for that building, that and they have probably phased it to start when the other finishes to maintain access etc. Its still due to be Key worker housing though!
Do you know what the changes entailed???
bristolboy August 20th, 2007, 05:40 PM Its not a nice building I suppose but still I would have liked a bit of a High rise building here... A Nice 30+ floor skyscraper as this I thought was one of the sites that were earmarked as being potencial hi rise and now we find out its only 8 Floors... Hmmm, we are going to run out of space to build our tall buildings if companies dont put in applications for them. They need to try...
I hope the St Pauls one goes through as beleive it might be a catalyst for other companies to put in higher/taller applications.
Maybe we will have our very own Canery Wharf at Avonmouth with the amount of construction and business going on there... But then again maybe pigs can fly...:ohno:
There is an artical about the clerical medical building in todays evening post. I would have prefered to have seen a taller building going there myself. But we have a council member wanting to save the old building. God help us!:ohno:
PJ1979 August 20th, 2007, 06:10 PM Gee
The changes for the Bus depot key worker building were a variation on the approved drawings to change of internal layout to provide 362 bed space instead of 323. Other than that the building remains largly unchanged! It got permission a couple of months back. This is the link: http://e2eweb.bristol-city.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JFNVY4DNCL000
On the Clerical Medical building, I can't believe that this Councillor wants to save it, has he ever been inside, its like stepping back in time!!! Typical councillor trying to make a stand on another pointless issue. Why do they do this and then simply sit on the fence when it comes to stuff that really matters!
Delirium August 20th, 2007, 06:15 PM i have to admit i do like the outside! its appearance considering todays buildings is very unique, and anything that is going to be built on it is just going to be the same old same old...
PJ1979 August 20th, 2007, 06:41 PM I agree with you that its unique, but for me its a landmark for all the wrong reasons. Guess that's the style of architecture for you, polarises opinion!
Schmeek August 20th, 2007, 06:46 PM ^^ Yes i'm glad i'm not the only one going against the grain helium - I quite like it's quirkyness as well - and if the sun is shining, at a certain time of day the yellow glass reflects onto the dual carriageway! It has a certain uniquity, which I admire. I'm not all for saving it however, as long as the replacement is a worthy improvement. Which I don't think the current plans are TBH. Yes it's quality clean office space, but we've seen enough of that down there already. If they're gonna demolish a unique building they should replace it with a unique building.
Bristol Mike August 20th, 2007, 08:23 PM I'm not all for saving it however, as long as the replacement is a worthy improvement. Which I don't think the current plans are TBH. Yes it's quality clean office space, but we've seen enough of that down there already. If they're gonna demolish a unique building they should replace it with a unique building.
Nice one Schmeek. :cheers:
I was just beginning to think the same thing. I took a picture of it yesterday and really began to appreciate how different it was to every other building in Bristol let alone around it. Though, I still think taking it away from there is a good thing and as you say - really it should be replaced with a special building. Look at the financial districts of say Paris and London or even a smaller city like Birmingham and Manchester - they all have landmarks. It would be great to have one built there intead. :)
That councillor should be shot! :lol: He must be very old fashioned himself!
Delirium August 21st, 2007, 01:07 AM On the plus side an eight story building would still look prominent given how lowrise the place is (bar the hills...) although tall is the way to go with the Area around temple, i would kill for something black and glassy (sort of a mini glass version of the Bullring selfridges is sort of what im getting at but by that i mean all curvy and slightly space age-y...) tbh as im rather tired of all usual stuff. and black does have this conservative professional look to it... ah well i can dream...
Bristol Mike August 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM Yeah - something quite tall, taller than everything else but something that fits in. We wouldn't want anything that stands out in a bad way.
PJ1979 August 21st, 2007, 02:26 PM As we are discussing the merits of new office building architecture I though people might be interested in these images of ND4 at Temple Quay North. Its the building next to the new bridge on the waterfront.
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/4669/nd41nk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Personally I think it'll be interesting to see what the buildings on the harbour edge turn out like when their done. On paper they seem alright, nothing to write home about perhaps, but the south facing coloured glass reflections of the water might produce something pleasant. Some of the best prospects for landmark building designs seem to be the Colston hall and EPR building. What does everyone think?
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Bristol Mike August 21st, 2007, 04:15 PM The Colston Hall plans look awesome. I think anything will be better than what there is (was). That building was so shabby.
As for the new waterfront building - looks nice. The idea of having a different architect for every building seems a very good idea, just to put some more diversity in the area.
Schmeek August 21st, 2007, 05:30 PM I'd give that waterfront office 6.5/10. Or maybe a seven.
I've been studying the plans for the bus station building and it looks like it will improve the area somewhat whilst breaking up the awkwardness of that great thin ugly slab above the beefeater. Just wish they were able to pull it down and build a nice new tall on the whole site.
I think most of my interest now lies in the outcome of the broad quay development. I think we might be pleasantly surprised by this one.
Delirium August 21st, 2007, 05:57 PM ^^TBH if they pulled it down i'd highly doubt they'd build anything near as tall as it, given the councils usual stance on things :bash: i think there should be two options-
Completly reclad etc. it like they are doing with the old Bristol and west building now.
or knock it down and build something tall, equal to or greater in height* of which it would be nice to have one that is quite glassy (so it compliments and contrasts with the more bulky large buildings around it) :yes:
bristolboy August 21st, 2007, 06:39 PM Guys just for your information i thought you should know that cabot circus is having a public opening weekend 19th-20th september. to have a look around. might be worth emailing them and letting them know about the interest this great site has in there development. Could get some great pics as well as inside information on what new exciting stores are going to be coming to bristol.
Delirium August 21st, 2007, 10:29 PM ^^ great info Bristolboy!
although i just hope i have the day off at least...
yogib52 August 21st, 2007, 11:34 PM 6)
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Greetings!
Does anybody know what is happening with the building shown in this picture? There was almighty rush to get it finished and then nothing has happened with it for the last six months. I walk past this building everyday and nothing is happening with it (even thro it’s externally complete it is far from finished internally).
Any info would be greatly appreciated (just being nosey!)
Kind Regards
Yogib52
yogib52 August 22nd, 2007, 12:01 AM I dont think alot of people that are interested in the development of the city (Bristol) know about this forum... Maybe we should tell them somehow... Put reader comments on Evening Post Web Page etc telling them about this website...?[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same as you Gee - I have noticed that you added a link to this forum on the article about the building which is going to replace the old Clerical and Medical building - Good work ! It would be great it be could get the details added to some more websites (maybe the BBC Bristol website?) or even printed in the Evening Post. You never know we might drum up enough traffic to get out own South West sub forum!
Cheers
Yoigb52
Schmeek August 22nd, 2007, 12:03 AM ^^ That's amazing you've just posted that, because I drive past it every day, and today as I went past I was thinking exactly the same thing - was gonna see if anyone on here knew what the hell is going on in there? - Like you said it was rushed to meet it's completion date(august last year), which it appeared to almost make externally. But it's a mess inside isn't it? Don't know what the hold up is, but it would be nice to see some lights in there at least for this winter because it looks a little gloomy down that side of the road compared to the rest when it gets dark.
Schmeek August 22nd, 2007, 12:08 AM Well it would be nice to have our own wouldn't it, and this is the busiest i've seen the Briz thread since I first noticed it back in late '06. Good stuff.
Delirium August 22nd, 2007, 01:32 AM hmm that reminds me, there are trees taller than castlemead by more than half.
ah im done.
also has anyone actually been in the architecture centre down on the harbourside just up from the Arnolfini? i keep meaning to go in but never do :bash:
oh and one last thing, anymore news (no matter how oold i guess) on the old Imax and wildwalk?
Gee31 August 22nd, 2007, 10:37 AM It would be awsome to have a "Bristol" Sub Forum and I think we could as theres enough people that are interested in the development of the city. However, we need to get through to them.
If everyone did the posts, and a little pluging etc we could have a few more Bristol members on our Hands and then pull up a sub forum for Bristol... Its one of the fastest growing and largest citys in the UK and deserves its own sub forum... Even our Football tems are doing well... LOL
Schmeek August 22nd, 2007, 04:48 PM There's also a new building going up between the Cathedral and Grosvenor Casino down on Anchor Road.
It's College square house. http://www.cubex-land.com/
It's only a small building and haven't been able to find much in the way of renders, but I presume it'll be smart considering it's location. Then all they need to do is knock down the casino(probably won't be there for long anyway with the new one next door), and the bathroom showroom place.:)
Delirium August 22nd, 2007, 06:07 PM Cubex? thast the name of a japanese CGI tv animation. :shifty:
Schmeek August 23rd, 2007, 03:12 PM It's nice to see the cladding going up on the Harvey Nicholls tower(is this it's proper name? A bit crap if it is. I suppose cabot tower is taken. Maybe we should it the CC tower from now on..). I'm hoping the cladding might 'bulk' it up a little, as at the moment it looks a little bit anorexic compared to the chunky Castlemead next door.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/camera3.jpg
And it looks as though the contractors are now moving into the land earmarked for the Future Hotel, so work will hopefully commence in the next couple of weeks.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/camera107-08-23_11-00-00-88.jpg
Also, is anyone else experiencing really shitty quality on the CC website video 'Beyond Cabot circus'? It's really blurry(and a bit pointless!).
PJ1979 August 23rd, 2007, 03:49 PM Yeah, my quality is also poor, Not sure it would improve the video anyway. Like you say a bit pointless, a few decent aerial photos would have been better.
Good to see the roof coming along and the car park rising from the rubble. Its gonna be massive that car park! I spoke to a guy from the bristol alliance and he said that it will be covered with a variety of metal claddings and have an information system installed that tells you which floor has vacant spaces.
God knows what they'll call the tower, something to do with Quaker Friars possible? Probably find out when they start marketing!
PJ1979 August 23rd, 2007, 04:02 PM A couple of other Developments have started on site recently. Both off the Trangle up in Clifton. First the Former Pro Cathedral on Park Place is being coververted into apartmetns and a little bit of commercial.
http://www.cathedralapartments.co.uk/#home
http://http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9895/procathedralgn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/514/procathedralxs1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The second Is St Catherine Court adjacent to La Tasca at the top of Jacob Wells Road. Demolition is underway of the existing buildings completion of the project is due at the end of 2008. The office will total approximately 31,129 sq ft.
http://www.ashfieldland.co.uk/bris_portfolio.htm
http://http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5148/stcatherinesve2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Delirium August 23rd, 2007, 06:46 PM ^^looks like that last one's getting the go ahead then?
PJ1979 August 23rd, 2007, 06:52 PM Yeah it looked like it, they were on site when I went past.
This is the only image of the Cubex College House. The development is part office and part facility for the Cathedral school.
http://http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3610/collegehouseedupage03boes5.gif (http://imageshack.us)
bristolboy August 23rd, 2007, 10:45 PM Yeah it looked like it, they were on site when I went past.
This is the only image of the Cubex College House. The development is part office and part facility for the Cathedral school.
http://http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3610/collegehouseedupage03boes5.gif (http://imageshack.us)
I love this development in college square as it fits in really well in the location.
I thought they were going to demolish the public toilets there ,Nothing has happened to them though. They need to go as they are a bloody eyesore.
Gee31 August 24th, 2007, 07:23 PM on the same ashfields website is the following... (I have not heard of this)...
Cribbs Causeway, Bristol
Close to Junction 17 of the M5, The Mall Regional Shopping Centre and only 15 minutes from the City Centre, this 80 acre development site is bounded by Cribbs Causeway and the East/West Railway line.
North Bristol is currently short of suitable options for employment uses, and this offers an enormous potential opportunity for businesses and organisations keen to be close to the defence and high-tech clusters.
Ambitious plans are now being drawn up for over 800,000 sq ft of employment space, a new railway station, a 200 bed hotel with conference facilities and a park and ride. The proposals were presented at the Local Plan Inquiry during 2003/4.
http://www.ashfieldland.co.uk/images/big/cribbs2.jpg
yogib52 August 24th, 2007, 07:50 PM 15 minutes from the city centre??? there having a laugh aren't they? when an earth did they do that journey in that time? perhaps they mean by helicopter!!!
[QUOTE=Gee31;14966489]on the same ashfields website is the following... (I have not heard of this)...
Cribbs Causeway, Bristol
Close to Junction 17 of the M5, The Mall Regional Shopping Centre and only 15 minutes from the City Centre, this 80 acre development site is bounded by Cribbs Causeway and the East/West Railway line.
North Bristol is currently short of suitable options for employment uses, and this offers an enormous potential opportunity for businesses and organisations keen to be close to the defence and high-tech clusters.
Ambitious plans are now being drawn up for over 800,000 sq ft of employment space, a new railway station, a 200 bed hotel with conference facilities and a park and ride. The proposals were presented at the Local Plan Inquiry during 2003/4.
Delirium August 24th, 2007, 10:33 PM ^^ unless they took the journey in the dead of night :?
15 minutes... honestly (even if you take the M5 then the portway...)
dronkula August 26th, 2007, 11:55 AM Also, the comment about a new railway station is interesting cos if I'm looking at the map and location of this site correctly, the railway line that runs alongside it is actually the Henbury loop - which has been closed for passenger traffic since the 60's.
It's part of the network the Friends of Suburban Bristol Railway have been trying to get restored (which inc. the Severn Beach and Portishead lines as well) but they're fighting a loosing battle.
jjmacjj August 27th, 2007, 10:12 AM Great photo on flickr from Neil Hobbs showing the current progress of the east side of the Finzells reach development
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1322/1241510944_79b14f0019_o.jpg
Gee31 August 27th, 2007, 02:14 PM Great photo on flickr from Neil Hobbs showing the current progress of the east side of the Finzells reach development
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1322/1241510944_79b14f0019_o.jpg
anybody got a picture of what this is supposed to look like once complete??? Nice to compare and see what we will eventually end up with...
Gee31 August 27th, 2007, 02:41 PM Does anybody have any Idea on to whats going on that ABSOLUTLY MASSIVE SITE opposite Filton college???
I keep goig past and the Blue construction boards have been up for ages and I also keep seeing cranes, diggers and 100s of workers (Constuction) in there.
I would love to know whats happening...
Gee31 August 27th, 2007, 02:43 PM Theres more planning up around the Filton Airbase... This time by Rolls Royce...
http://www.epost.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145365&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145191&contentPK=18202032&folderPk=83726&pNodeId=144922
danz013 August 27th, 2007, 03:44 PM I was just about to say that you guys should change your original post to include much more of Bristols latest projects that I realised you already had. I've just said something similar in the Hull thread and I'm not trying to cause an argument but i'm a little baffled at how Gee31 claims that "Bristol has as some of the biggest developments going of in the country"... well after looking at your front page... Bristol Dosn't have as innovative, as large, or as many project as Nottingham... and considering that Notts is one of the smallest (if not the smallest) of the Core Cities... i'm unsure how you guys make this claim??
Take a look at the Nottingham Thread...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505694 bare in mind this dosn't include many of our smaller (but still innovative) projects.
Gee31 August 27th, 2007, 04:40 PM I was just about to say that you guys should change your original post to include much more of Bristols latest projects that I realised you already had. I've just said something similar in the Hull thread and I'm not trying to cause an argument but i'm a little baffled at how Gee31 claims that "Bristol has as some of the biggest developments going of in the country"... well after looking at your front page... Bristol Dosn't have as innovative, as large, or as many project as Nottingham... and considering that Notts is one of the smallest (if not the smallest) of the Core Cities... i'm unsure how you guys make this claim??
Take a look at the Nottingham Thread...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505694 bare in mind this dosn't include many of our smaller (but still innovative) projects.
OK, I have no idea what on what planet your on... The fact is if you look through the projects you have listed quite a few of them are still in Planning and even more are in Pre Planning... These dont constitute as projects under development. You have some good projects but before you come into another thread and try to start a argument over whose city is doing more projects please get some facts o your side...
Please check the other forums and government reports also... Bristol is the second Fastest growing ciy in the UK... Wheres Nottingham??? One of the fastest growing Airports in the UK... Had the highest population growth in 2005/6... Best unemployment rate 05/06... the second highest Property boom (after london) and the stats go on... Its was also the 3rd most visted tourist destination in 2005/2006 after London (Obviuosly) and Liverpool (Damn)... Second in Capital of Culture comp (After Liverpool - Damn again) Hmmm and Nottingham???
Also you have put down many projects (0-£20m) for which its not even worth writing down and you have put down loads of pics and info etc... These are super small projects in Bristol terms and we have so many of those going on that it would seriously fill up the forum if everyone is accounted for. We only really talk about the bigger projects...
Also, One thing made me laugh... Are Notts Forest really going to build a new stadium...? For a cash straped Football Club I cant believe this to be serious... Stil in pre planning so I would hold my breath!!
I never said anywhere that Nottingham is bad... I have been there once (didnt really like it that much but it was ok... I liked the Tram/rail thing you have) I never even metioned the place though... But for you to come in and try to justify Nottinghams place over BRISTOL is STUPID!!!
danz013 August 27th, 2007, 05:06 PM Lol.... I clearly said I'm not trying to start an argument..however.. here we go...
OK, I have no idea what on what planet your on... The fact is if you look through the projects you have listed quite a few of them are still in Planning and even more are in Pre Planning... These dont constitute as projects under development. You have some good projects but before you come into another thread and try to start a argument over whose city is doing more projects please get some facts o your side...
....then show me the innovative and amazingly large projects you have that aren't in construction?
Please check the other forums and government reports also... Bristol is the second Fastest growing ciy in the UK... Wheres Nottingham???
Thats my point!!! Nottingham is one of the smallest of the Core Cities... so where are the big developments you have that are so much bigger or as big as the the ones we have here in Notts? It is that...and that point alone that I am querying?
Also you have put down many projects (0-£20m) for which its not even worth writing down and you have put down loads of pics and info etc... These are super small projects in Bristol terms and we have so many of those going on that it would seriously fill up the forum if everyone is accounted for. We only really talk about the bigger projects...
Most of the projects we listed are in construction or in development
But...using ur theory... projects like these don't deserve a mention?? (Both of which are in construction)
Largest Arts Exibition centre outside London?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/1108052562_fbc61b9279.jpg?v=0
Award Winning pod with was part of a two stage design competition..
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1036/1108052194_941262653a.jpg?v=0
Does it require over £20m to create things like these?? Noooo...?
Also, One thing made me laugh... Are Notts Forest really going to build a new stadium...? For a cash straped Football Club I cant believe this to be serious... Stil in pre planning so I would hold my breath!!
I think you need to read the forest thread...than you'll begin to understand more why forest have proposed a new stadium. If you read it and still don't understand...pleassee let me know...
Listen...i'm not trying to start an argument... Let me give you an example...
Nottingham has developments like these...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1053/1107219119_77c2e005c0.jpg?v=0
we have 2 more of a similar size (I will not post them as I don't want to spoil a Bristol thread with lots of pictures of Notts). Where are the developments of this size?..
Now excluding the redevelopment of the Broadmead or whatever its called...what do you have of this scale...
Remember...my point is...you claim to have the "some of the biggest developments in the UK"... where are they? If you have them...fair enough... if not...then your claim is false.
danz013 August 27th, 2007, 05:39 PM Please check the other forums and government reports also... Bristol is the second Fastest growing ciy in the UK... Wheres Nottingham??? One of the fastest growing Airports in the UK... Had the highest population growth in 2005/6... Best unemployment rate 05/06... the second highest Property boom (after london) and the stats go on... Its was also the 3rd most visted tourist destination in 2005/2006 after London (Obviuosly) and Liverpool (Damn)... Second in Capital of Culture comp (After Liverpool - Damn again) Hmmm and Nottingham???
I never said anywhere that Nottingham is bad... I have been there once (didnt really like it that much but it was ok... I liked the Tram/rail thing you have) I never even metioned the place though... But for you to come in and try to justify Nottinghams place over BRISTOL is STUPID!!!
I noticed you've added a little since your original post
Honestly Gee... I think you need to really assess what planet your on not what planet i'm on. No one here was trying to justify any city over any city.... but if you think the stats you mentioned above make Bristol a greater city than Nottingham....then you'd also be Greater than Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Glasgow... because with the stats you listed... all those cities are way below Bristol Too. Bigger cities...have bigger problems... But they also have Bigger plans ;)
Just to mention as well...i though bristol was much bigger than it is because of your lies... I read somewhere that you claim Bristol has a conurbation of 1million people? Where do you get these stories from... Government statistics show this figure at about 550,000 with Notts having over 100,000 more???
Its asif you want me to go ahead and list all of Nottingham's pluses over Bristol... well..i'm going to list just one... We have some of the most innovative and largest projects in the country... this thought is backed up time and time again by Non-Notts memebers.... Unlike Bristol..our claim is a true one.
danz013 August 27th, 2007, 05:55 PM Also you have put down many projects (0-£20m) for which its not even worth writing down and you have put down loads of pics and info etc... These are super small projects in Bristol terms and we have so many of those going on that it would seriously fill up the forum if everyone is accounted for. We only really talk about the bigger projects...
Lol....you might want to start talking about some smaller proejcts to create some more activity in the thread then lol.... then your request for a metro area may one day be granted.
The new Nottingham thread was created about 3 weeks ago and already has 3387 threads. That is 12% of the 27,166 Bristol has accumulated in two years!!!
I think those figures speak for themselves... Gee31... There is a lack of interest in Bristol across the forums...ask yourself why?? Because is has less forum members?? Noo... i don't think so... Nottingham only has 5 or 6 who reguarly contribute....so pleaaasee...justify this for me?
Schmeek August 27th, 2007, 09:39 PM The new Nottingham thread was created about 3 weeks ago and already has 3387 threads. That is 12% of the 27,166 Bristol has accumulated in two years!!!
Eh??
I think those figures speak for themselves... Gee31... There is a lack of interest in Bristol across the forums...ask yourself why??
It's called ignorance.
If you're an example of the type of person we're missing on our forum then all the better - I pity your fellow Notts. forumers who have to interact with you.
I think maybe you should read your first post on here again from a neutral perspective and try to tell yourself it's not provocative or childish. Just because you state that you are not wanting to start an argument does not change the fact that you are actually doing just that.
You are not welcome on here. Shut up and piss off.
Schmeek August 28th, 2007, 02:00 AM Just a quick one. I noticed that on the castlemore website it says they have obtained the BT building at market gate for conversion into student accommodation. This is the ochre building next to phoenix court. They have planning permission but I don't know whether the conversion will involve any changes externally. Does anyone know any more?
Gee31 August 28th, 2007, 02:44 AM Lol....you might want to start talking about some smaller proejcts to create some more activity in the thread then lol.... then your request for a metro area may one day be granted.
The new Nottingham thread was created about 3 weeks ago and already has 3387 threads. That is 12% of the 27,166 Bristol has accumulated in two years!!!
I think those figures speak for themselves... Gee31... There is a lack of interest in Bristol across the forums...ask yourself why?? Because is has less forum members?? Noo... i don't think so... Nottingham only has 5 or 6 who reguarly contribute....so pleaaasee...justify this for me?
Cant justify this but can explain it... WE HAVE JOBS!!! and the 5/6 of you sat there on your computers all day obviously dont...
Come to Bristol and im sure we can fit you in... theres loads of jobs here what with all the major companies leaving places like Nottingham and setting up down here in the South... LOL
Gee31 August 28th, 2007, 02:48 AM Just a quick one. I noticed that on the castlemore website it says they have obtained the BT building at market gate for conversion into student accommodation. This is the ochre building next to phoenix court. They have planning permission but I don't know whether the conversion will involve any changes externally. Does anyone know any more?
Ummm, Does BT have a new building in Temple Quay???
Im not sure what they are going to do with the building but I would not have thought that they are going to knock it down or make any major changes from the outside... I thought they got that building ages ago...
Delirium August 28th, 2007, 06:16 AM :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:
what the hell!!!!???
if i just want to mention one thing
Just to mention as well...i though bristol was much bigger than it is because of your lies... I read somewhere that you claim Bristol has a conurbation of 1million people? Where do you get these stories from... Government statistics show this figure at about 550,000 with Notts having over 100,000 more???
I think that people should realsie that this whole 1 million population conurbation thing refers to what was orginall until 11 years ago the County of Avon
this should explain it nicely. :yes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Bristol
From what i've learnt Bristol as city was very restricted in its growth so rather than the city expanding, (hell alot f cities did this
many of the surrounding towns did (some of which i've lived in for very short spells), there are towns such as Yate, Clevedon, Nailsea, Portishead And Keynsham (especially so) and the many villages on the outside of Bristol that expaned and are pretty much suburbs except they're seperated by swathes countryside, but i must point out strongly how connected they are to the city,
its the same scenario in places like Glasgow or the M25 commuter belt or virtually most large cities only in microcosm.
although i cringe at the idea that this a concrete metro (although in a few years at this rate it could be, howver i say could be-) there is quite abit of truth but you could say exactly the same with Nottingham,so i dont think its wise to go round liberally appling the term.
jjmacjj August 28th, 2007, 10:15 AM anybody got a picture of what this is supposed to look like once complete??? Nice to compare and see what we will eventually end up with...
http://www.h4mail.com/3d/h4_news_big.jpg
http://www.h4mail.com/3d/h4_news_big1.jpg
http://www.h4mail.com/3d/h4_news_big10.jpg
http://www.h4mail.com/3d/h4_news_big6.jpg
http://www.h4mail.com/3d/h4_news_big5.jpg
http://www.h4mail.com/3d/h4_news_big4.jpg
Gee31 August 28th, 2007, 01:51 PM :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:
what the hell!!!!???
if i just want to mention one thing
I think that people should realsie that this whole 1 million population conurbation thing refers to what was orginall until 11 years ago the County of Avon
this should explain it nicely. :yes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Bristol
From what i've learnt Bristol as city was very restricted in its growth so rather than the city expanding, (hell alot f cities did this
many of the surrounding towns did (some of which i've lived in for very short spells), there are towns such as Yate, Clevedon, Nailsea, Portishead And Keynsham (especially so) and the many villages on the outside of Bristol that expaned and are pretty much suburbs except they're seperated by swathes countryside, but i must point out strongly how connected they are to the city,
its the same scenario in places like Glasgow or the M25 commuter belt or virtually most large cities only in microcosm.
although i cringe at the idea that this a concrete metro (although in a few years at this rate it could be, howver i say could be-) there is quite abit of truth but you could say exactly the same with Nottingham,so i dont think its wise to go round liberally appling the term.
Thank You!!!
Also I would like to still point out further that where as many cities (I lived in London so thats one I know of) have postcode issues...
I.E London (City Of) Postcodes begin with S,SW,N,NW,W,E,NE... Etc Etc... where as some of their outskirts are under their own i.e. Hounslow have TW shows its really is seperate but still under london right...?
Bristols Postcodes (BS) run all the way to Weston, Thornbury, Yate and even parts of Nailsea etc etc. So this would show these places have at least some links with this city (Bristol)... Alot of them have Bristol in their address aswell... i.e. 123 The Street, Yate, BRISTOL, BS35 H3G... Thats what the Greater Bristol area is...
dronkula August 28th, 2007, 02:06 PM Ok I've updated the first post again with more stuff but still left out loads - pretty much all the 'standard' office developments really.
At some point I'll go back and stick them in. I got up to page 14 in this thread doing that update - so only another 18 pages to go through!
dronkula August 28th, 2007, 02:09 PM On a side note, I found it funny that on the very first page, there's someone else from Nottingham making comments about how much better they are than Bristol is. Is it just people from that city that seem to have building envy and feel the need to go around telling people in other cities how much better they are than everyone else?
PJ1979 August 28th, 2007, 03:19 PM Ok I've updated the first post again with more stuff but still left out loads - pretty much all the 'standard' office developments really.
At some point I'll go back and stick them in. I got up to page 14 in this thread doing that update - so only another 18 pages to go through!
Good Work Dronkula, its a fine start. I have a word document that summarises a lot of the developments in Bristol if that would be useful?
I can't believe that guy, if he actually took the time to read our thread, he would see that we do have some of pretty large and exciting developments! I can't recall anyone ever writing that Bristol had all the biggest and most exciting developments in the country and everywhere else was shit! To further add insult he then proceeds to invade our thread with pictures of developments in Nottingham, if somehow this will convince us that what we didn't actually say isn't really true!
Really useful I'm sure you'll all agree!
dronkula August 28th, 2007, 04:54 PM I also had a sneak peak at the Nottingham stuff to see what he was talking about.
Strangely, all the Nottingham threads in there were created by him, and a quick look through the threads themselves seems to show that he contributed more than 50% of the postings.
City Pride is all very good, but you can go a bit too far sometimes.
Back to Bristol though, has anyone got any updates on either the St Bridewells Island redevelopment by Urban Splash, the Bristol Uni masterplan (someone mentioned a crane seen up there a few months back) or the old Post Office depot on Cattlemarket Road?
Oh, and another development that I've not put up on the first post yet is Hengrove Park - new Hospital, Olympic Size Swimming Pool + Sports Centre, new office park and homes. Still in planning at the moment though.
pharmj August 28th, 2007, 07:13 PM Hi guys, just been looking through the developments here, they look really good! its been years since i was Bristol, I used to work at the Lloyds TSB doughnut and from what i gather, the view from the offices has changed somewhat!
I love the work being done on Broadmead, that should become a great vibrant part of town, the Harvey Nics tower is a great addition to the skyline!
Looking at the above Bristol/Nottingham aminosity (which I am not going to get involved in), i feel the only startling thing is actually how similar the two cities are, in the developments we either have/are having or will have. Both cities have increasingly popular international airports, have/will have parkway stations, will have new shopping complexes on a scale not seen in the cities, new cultural quarters, damn great hills in the middle of the cities...i could go on!
Lets put this aside, and appreciate the projects going on in each others cities, rather than compete! We have Leicester to argue with, we dont want to fall with Bristolians as well!
Leicity82 August 29th, 2007, 12:34 AM On a side note, I found it funny that on the very first page, there's someone else from Nottingham making comments about how much better they are than Bristol is. Is it just people from that city that seem to have building envy and feel the need to go around telling people in other cities how much better they are than everyone else?
I also had a sneak peak at the Nottingham stuff to see what he was talking about.
Strangely, all the Nottingham threads in there were created by him, and a quick look through the threads themselves seems to show that he contributed more than 50% of the postings.
City Pride is all very good, but you can go a bit too far sometimes.
At least your not only 25 miles away from him :lol: - no offence danz. :)
On many occasion has danz come on the Leicester threads and said how great things in Nottingham are and how Leicester will never be able to complete; though not in so many words. It doesn't matter whether Nottingham has got anything to do with what you're discussing-it just has to be involved according to danz.
Anyway this is your thread and can I say that some of your schemes look really exciting, especially your Broadmead scheme. It's odd how Hammerson have used the same coloured cranes for both the Leicester and Bristol main new shopping malls and new car parks? Sad I know but just something I noticed. :)
danz013 August 29th, 2007, 01:45 AM Lol i've been watching this thread progress throughout the day and I must apologise for the controversy i've created... I sincerely offer my apology... on a good note though...many good things have come out of this...
1. Bristol's thread has been busier than it has been for quite a while
2. The front page got its change...
Please remember...all of my original comments were based on what was on the front page...since this change.. I must say.. Bristol seems a lot more exiting. I do regret the way I originally approached you guys....maybe i should have come with more of an open mind... ;)
Gee31 August 29th, 2007, 02:15 AM Lol i've been watching this thread progress throughout the day and I must apologise for the controversy i've created... I sincerely offer my apology... on a good note though...many good things have come out of this...
1. Bristol's thread has been busier than it has been for quite a while
2. The front page got its change...
Please remember...all of my original comments were based on what was on the front page...since this change.. I must say.. Bristol seems a lot more exiting. I do regret the way I originally approached you guys....maybe i should have come with more of an open mind... ;)
Appology Accepted!!!
Gee31 August 29th, 2007, 02:16 AM At least your not only 25 miles away from him :lol: - no offence danz. :)
On many occasion has danz come on the Leicester threads and said how great things in Nottingham are and how Leicester will never be able to complete; though not in so many words. It doesn't matter whether Nottingham has got anything to do with what you're discussing-it just has to be involved according to danz.
Anyway this is your thread and can I say that some of your schemes look really exciting, especially your Broadmead scheme. It's odd how Hammerson have used the same coloured cranes for both the Leicester and Bristol main new shopping malls and new car parks? Sad I know but just something I noticed. :)
Thats a funny thing to notice...:lol:
Gee31 August 29th, 2007, 02:21 AM I also had a sneak peak at the Nottingham stuff to see what he was talking about.
Strangely, all the Nottingham threads in there were created by him, and a quick look through the threads themselves seems to show that he contributed more than 50% of the postings.
City Pride is all very good, but you can go a bit too far sometimes.
Back to Bristol though, has anyone got any updates on either the St Bridewells Island redevelopment by Urban Splash, the Bristol Uni masterplan (someone mentioned a crane seen up there a few months back) or the old Post Office depot on Cattlemarket Road?
Oh, and another development that I've not put up on the first post yet is Hengrove Park - new Hospital, Olympic Size Swimming Pool + Sports Centre, new office park and homes. Still in planning at the moment though.
I have been up around Bristol Uni alot latley, but havent seen any Cranes... I think the plan is very near approval though...
Also I saw a bit of the construction going on behind the BRI and trust me... its HUGE!!! the amount of work going on there is mad... Its coming on nicely though... If your driving up past the new magistrates courts towards the BRI you can see cranes and parts of the new building poping out behind the buildings fronting the road...
Thought I would ask again if anybody knows what the masses amount of construction going on opposite Filton College is???
Gee31 August 29th, 2007, 02:29 AM Location Bridewell Island, Bristol - UK
Client Urban Splash
Competition June 2006
Urban Splash working with Space Craft Architects has won the competition to restore and develop the Bridewell Island site in the heart of Bristol. Following a shortlisting process they beat off competition from five other teams in a hotly contested selection process. This fantastic group of listed buildings includes a former fire station, police station, prison and magistrates courts, dating back to 1890 and forms an entire city block located in a strategically important position between the main retail centre of Broadmead and Harbourside. The site, which has laid derelict for a number of years will be converted into a mixed use scheme based around shops, cafes, restaurants, offices and studios. There will also be a small number of serviced apartments, but no flats in the conventional sense. These will be located as new pavilions on the roof of the fire station; hardly visible when viewed from the tight nearby streets but providing a striking symbol of change from a distance. The Court Yard will be the beating heart of the scheme bringing life to the rejuvenated Bridewell Island.
Nik Randall, Director of Space Craft Architects says;
“This is a fantastic opportunity to breathe new life into these fabulous buildings. We developed our ideas around a ‘light touch’ as we felt the buildings themselves had so much to offer and we wanted to avoid just carving them up into flats. We also wanted to preserve the external appearance which is very familiar to the people of Bristol, and so we have internalised the scheme. The central service yard will become a vibrant courtyard with shops, cafes and bars. We’ve even got a health club in the basement which will use the former cells as steam rooms! It’s strange in a way, as we have almost designed ourselves out of the scheme.”
The proposals will be worked up in close consultation with the Bristol City Council and local people in readiness for a planning application early in 2007.
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PJ1979 August 29th, 2007, 11:49 AM This is a pretty big development that has been really quiet over the last few years. Wapping Wharf is the site behind the industrial museum and runs back to Cumberland Road and the Gaol Ferry Bridge to Southville. It's one of the last really big Harbourside sites and got outline planning permission for a major mixed use devlopment back in 2004. Which unfortunatly is before online records.
The permission was for a masterplan to create a new city centre community on the Wapping Wharf site, with 600 new homes, shops, restaurants, a 150-bedroom hotel, A new public square and pedestrian route between the Gaol Ferry Bridge and a new Waterfront Square adjacent to the new Museum of Bristol called Princes Square. I don't think the development was very high, a series of 4 to 6 storey buildings, but the density was good creating a nice urban feel. The scheme also restored the old Gaol gatehouse on Cumberland Road, as an entrance to some of the residential. The site is closely linked with the new museum and has had to wait for existing tenancies to expire, but hopefully the Developer Umberslade should show signs of activity over the next year.
This is the only image I have:
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Another large development in a similar situation is Redcliffe Village. This site also has outline permission for a mixed use scheme including 500 apartments, office space, retail, leisure, gym and creche. The site is pretty much bounded by St Thomas Street, Three Queen Lane, Redcliffe Street and St Thomas Lane and contains the Dynasty Restaurant, the chinese supermarket, Kwik fit and what used to be Pattersons Wholesale and Porsche Tech.
Again I think the issue for Crown Dilnum and Midshires Estates the Developers have been existing tenancies. These are the old images I have:
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These are the web links:
http://www.redcliffevillage.co.uk/
http://www.midshiresestates.com/
Be good if this one could finally get going, as it will probably fund the final amount needed for the new bridge to King Street.
PJ1979 August 29th, 2007, 12:00 PM Had a look at the first post and thought that I might post a few development summaries and images I have to help. The first is Harbourside:
Harbourside - £287 million covering 16.3 acres (6.59 hectares):
Significant regeneration of the northern side of Bristol’s Historic Dock by Crest Nicholson. The site is currently under construction and consists of
• Total mixed use floorspace of 1,093,281 sq ft (101,568 sqm)
• Approximately 500 residential units
• New Harbour inlet and marina
• 383,552 sq ft (35,633m2) of office development predominantly College Square
• 153,381 sq ft (14,494 sqm) Leisure and retail
• 50,206 sq ft (4664.2 sqm) Hotel
• Innovative public art light wall and public spaces
For more info see: http://www.bristol-harbourside.co.uk/default.asp
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PJ1979 August 29th, 2007, 02:48 PM Cabot Circus - £500 million covering 36 acres (14 hectares):
The largest development site in the city since WW11. Cabot Circus will provide a major retail led mixed used scheme in the City Centre. The scheme is currently under Construction by the Bristol Alliance (Land Securities and Hammerson) and includes:
• Total retail and leisure area, including restaurants and cafes of 1 million sq ft (92,900 m)
• A four-storey, 170,000 sq ft (15,800 m) flagship department store, to be occupied by House of Fraser
• 37,000 sq ft (3,450 m) store, in Quakers Friars, to be occupied by Harvey Nichols
• A 100,000 sq ft (9290 m) Cinema de Lux with 3,000 seats in a 13 screen state-of-the-art auditoria
• 15 major stores and more than 120 new shops, 20 of which will be restaurants and cafes
• over 2,600 car park spaces
• new cycle routes, bus and coach stops
• new dedicated public spaces, including; an open square around the refurbished Quakers Friary buildings, featuring shops, restaurants and residential apartments and a new covered civic space in front of the proposed department store
• over 250 residential units, including 24 affordable homes in the heart of the city
• more than 161,500 sq ft (15,000 m) of office space
• 120 hotel bedrooms, in a building of more than 60,000 sq ft (5574 m)
• 280 student bed spaces, a development of 103,000 sq ft (9570m)
For more info see: http://www.bristolcitycentre.com/default.asp?PageID=1
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Finzels Reach - £255 Million covering 5.68 acres (2.3 Hectares):
Major waterfront redevelopment of a former brewery in central Bristol by HDG Mansur. The scheme includes the redevelopment of the listed generator building and a new landmark footbridge called the Mobius Bridge. The site is currently under construction and consists of:
• Total floorspace of 993,148 sq ft (92,300 Sq m)
• 402,183 sq ft (37,362 q m) of office development
• 384 residential units
• 87,155 sq ft (8096 sqm) of retail/leisure
• Public space, harbourside walk and Mobius Bridge
For More Info see: http://www.finzelsreach.co.uk/
Broadquay Central - £30 Million
The development comprises the partial demolition and regeneration of a series of buildings on a prominent site in Bristol City Centre. The landmark former Bristol & West tower is retained and re-clad as a 178-bed hotel and the remainder of the site is to be re-developed to provide 160 residential apartments and 2800m² of A1, A2 & A3 retail and leisure uses. The site is currently under construction by Rex Developments.
Temple Gate
Located adjacent to Temple Meads station this major redevelopment provides a true mixed use scheme including offices apartments, retail units, community space, cafes and restaurants and a new public square. The developer Ballymore has full planning permission and is expected on site in 2007. The scheme consists of:
• 220 residential units
• 4,295 sq m of office space
• retail and community uses
• new public squares and private gardens
For more info: http://www.ballymoreproperties.ie/site/ba_frameset.php
Schmeek August 29th, 2007, 07:26 PM Some great work going on here!:applause:
Firstly, I had no idea about the Wharf project behind the industrial museum. I lived in southville for about 7yrs and the walk from the gaol bridge into town is one I love, but always thought it needed a lot of work. It seemed to be such a crucial location (as some of you might know it is teaming with human traffic in the mornings and afternoons), but somehow the patch opposite the luisiana just seemed to get mothballed. I love this plan, especially the route through from the bridge to the docks, and rejuvenating the gate might even bring a tear to my eye!!:cry:
For those who haven't seen the Gaol Gate here's a photo but it dosen't really do it justice -you have to see it in person.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/lead-gaol_wide.jpg
Delirium August 29th, 2007, 09:01 PM perhaps it could become an entrance! :happy:
PJ1979 August 30th, 2007, 10:49 AM Nice pic Schmeek. When they had the masterplan exhibited in the Architecture Centre, they proposed to do up the gatehouse and use it as an entrance to the residential, for parking and pedestrians. but not as a through route. The Gaol Gate is a real piece of History, after the Bristol Riots in the 1800's they hung the lead conspirators from the Gaol, much to the sadness of the crowd that gathered and even some of the guards.
I agree the route from the Gaol Ferry Bridge to the Waterfront will be great. Its so busy with people walking across from Southville. For me what would make real sense would be a new footbridge from that point to the Lloyds side. Have to be able to raise to let the tall ships through though.
I think that there is supposed to be funding for a shuttle ferry service instead. Like the one from the SS Great Britain to Capricorn Quay.
I think that the Harbour and cut, could do with several new bridges.
PJ1979 August 30th, 2007, 11:16 AM Here are a few other summaries that I have that might be useful:
Cabot House - £23 Million
Located behind Bristol Council House, Cabot House is a commercially led mixed use scheme by Westmark. The site, which lies within a Conservation Area and is directly adjacent to a number of listed buildings including the Council House and Central Library. The site involves a demolition of existing buildings and car park to provide 8,500m² of office space, 25 new residential units and assorted A1/A3 units, as well as reinstating all the existing public car parking currently occupying the site.
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St Catherine’s Court - £6 Million 30,666 sq ft (2,850 sq m)
A new office development currently under construction in Bristol’s West End. St Catherine’s Court is located on the site adjacent to the former Pro Cathedral. The new building will consist of five-storey office, with parking and ancillary functions at ground and upper ground floor levels. The net office area is approx 2,850 square metres with 14 secure car parking spaces in the lower level. The external elevations of this contemporary new building are constructed from a combination of facing brickwork, natural stone, colour-coated aluminium window, curtain walling and panelling elements.
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Portwall Lane - £25 Million 170,000 sq ft (15,793 sqm)
Currently under construction and comprising 170,000 sq ft of offices, close to Temple Meads Station and in the heart of the City's commercial area. The site, previously occupied by Dick Lovett Porsche Dealership, faces St Mary Redcliff Church and fronts onto the City Council's proposed 'Millennium Mile'' pedestrian link and cycle route linking Temple Meads & Harbourside. The design responds sensitively to its context, with office space organised around a glazed atrium. Active ground floor uses are incorporated on St Thomas Street and Portwall Lane.
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Glassfields - £65 Million, 32,000 sq m office development
Located On Temple Way, the scheme will provide 32,000 sqm net office development on a brown-field site adjacent to Bristol’s inner ring-road and close to the floating harbour. A 1970s office building will be replaced by 3 new-build office buildings varying between 5 & 8 floors together with a 4-storey office with ground floor A3 use, all ranged around a new city square. The offices have been conceived to represent a new high quality threshold for Bristol offices. The design uses the best of modern materials and presents a dramatic fully glazed frontage to the corner of Temple Way and Avon Street, Bristol.
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O and M Shed - 18,256 sq ft (1,696 sq m) leisure and residential
An imaginative waterside setting for this mixed use residential and leisure opportunity, superbly located in the heart of Bristol opposite the historic St Mary Redcliffe Church and Queens Square. This waterfront development will consist of essentially 4 leisure units and numerous residential apartments, set within the original dockside shed which will be full restored to its historic dockside character, open plan space, excellent natural light, traditional materials and with views across the floating harbour. The creation of a new build which will offer the rare opportunity to create some striking and modern waterside space overlooking St Mary Redcliffe Church.
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Hartwell House - £9.5 million 59,718 sq ft (5550 sq m)
Located in a prominent City Centre location, 5,550m2 of new build office accommodation on a former car showroom site. The building, which is under construction features curtain wall façades and includes a double-height entrance area and the extensive use of Portland stone to the principal elevations.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6532/hartwellhousetm6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Cathedral - 83 residential apartments and 420 sqm of office space
Currently under construction by Urban Creation, this scheme provides 83 residential units and 420 m2 of office space within and in the curtilege of the Grade II listed Pro Cathedral. It is believe to be the first conversion of any cathedral in the UK and prevents the continued demise of this listed building at risk.
Internally the building will be sympathetically converted for residential and office uses, with the full volume of the existing building expressed in the aisles and transept spaces. The residential blocks externally have been designed to be subservient to the dominant bulk of the existing building whilst having design integrity of their own by employing layers of materials to create depth and interest to the elevations.
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PJ1979 August 30th, 2007, 01:53 PM Also for you dedicated souls out there. The Bristol City Centre Strategy can be quite an interesting read. A few years old now but the 3D maps of the City centre are particularly good. This is the link:
http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/stream/asset/?asset_id=5333025&
Schmeek August 30th, 2007, 06:22 PM I agree with you PJ about a footbridge carrying through from the new scheme to harbourside, it makes alot of sense. And also I agree spike Island needs at least one more bridge further down(perhaps including light road vehicles as well), to fully open up the harbourside and Bristol itself to some extent.
Am I right in thinking that Cabot House is the future headquarters of Steve Lansdown's(Bristol city FC chairman)company?
PJ1979 August 31st, 2007, 10:54 AM No idea about Cabot house, sorry.
Yeah another bridge from the new harbour inlet on harbourside to the SS great britain is certainly in order, particulalry if combined with a bridge from the end of Gas Ferry Road adjacent to Aardman across to Beauley road in Southville.
Imagine that, walking from the Tobacco factory on North street to the Clifton triangle in about 10 to 15 mins!
Someone in my office told me about this application in on harbourside. Its the old Purifer House. this is the link but the documents have not been uploaded yet.
http://e2eweb.bristol-city.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JN4D7ZDN0NR00
jjmacjj September 1st, 2007, 01:09 AM drifting into the world of EARLY planning / concept, lets not forget the RPS proposals around the Feeder Canal - carrying on from Temple Quay2...
""A Run-down wasteland in St Philip's could be transformed into a thriving waterside community in a £280 million redevelopment. This artist's impression shows the modern glass- fronted offices which will be built alongside the red brick warehouse which lines the Feeder Canal opposite Feeder Road.
Property consultant RPS has drawn up a scheme to transform a 30-acre piece of land by the canal into offices, shops and homes. It estimates the site could provide employment for up to 2,000 workers and homes for the same amount of people. Under the scheme the majority of the buildings would be used for office space and its position next to the water raises the possibility of some workers being able to commute to work by river boat.""
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Sorry - not a good pic but.... it'll be cool if it happens!!!!
Delirium September 1st, 2007, 01:28 AM ^^from that tiny pic, i hope the lighting etc. in any building built there looks like that!
although maybe its the cynic in me but... nevermind :shifty:
Delirium September 1st, 2007, 04:19 AM there's nothing wrong with a bit of shamless self promotion is there! :shifty:
i have a thread thats featuring Bristol, feel free to visit and comment.
(its in me sig.)
dronkula September 1st, 2007, 04:08 PM This is the site of the old proposed Project 360 tower. Not sure how a building that's only 8 storeys high will be an 'instantly recognisible landmark building' though.
FAREWELL TO FINAL EYESORE
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08:16 - 01 September 2007
The final eyesore site affecting a gateway to Bristol city centre is set to be transformed in a major redevelopment.The site near Temple Meads station is to undergo rejuvenation, with developers wanting to build two towers in place of two derelict hotels, on a site which has been in decline for decades.
The triangular piece of land next to Temple Way roundabout is in the middle of major roads in and out of the city.
Bass's plans would mean keeping the shell of the derelict George Railway Hotel but demolishing the Grosvenor Hotel next door.
In its place would be two offices, six and eights storeys high, separated by the route of the ancient Portwall - the city's ancient outer wall. There would also be a "plaza" public space with art and underground car parking.
Most of the site, including the listed George Railway Hotel, also known in Bristol as the George and Railway, is owned by leisure and brewery firm Bass.
Some of the site is owned by the city council.
The scheme, which is about to be submitted to Bristol City Council, is the latest attempt to develop the site, which has been derelict for many years.
A similar proposal for offices, but including a plan to build an £80 million skyscraper, was rejected by planning officers about six years ago because they said it did not go far enough to develop the entire triangular site, which is bounded by Victoria Street, Portwall Lane East and Temple Gate. Bass said the scheme would be a "landmark development" that would become a recognisable feature for those arriving in the city either by train or by car, from the south on the A37 or from Bath on the A4.
Delirium September 1st, 2007, 04:12 PM :no:
i should be happy, but its just going to be completely identical to the other offices,and its just going to look completely souless and uniform (not in a good way)
landmark my arse.
bristolboy September 1st, 2007, 04:43 PM This is the site of the old proposed Project 360 tower. Not sure how a building that's only 8 storeys high will be an 'instantly recognisible landmark building' though.
Im just glad something is going to be done with the site. It has been an eyesore for years. I drive past it everyday and iv been wishing someone would burn down the grosvenor hotel as it looks a mess down there!
We will just have to wait and see if it gets planning permission now. Or The civic society start kicking and screaming that the building should be saved! those bastards have stopped a lot of good developments.
Gee31 September 1st, 2007, 05:54 PM Im just glad something is going to be done with the site. It has been an eyesore for years. I drive past it everyday and iv been wishing someone would burn down the grosvenor hotel as it looks a mess down there!
We will just have to wait and see if it gets planning permission now. Or The civic society start kicking and screaming that the building should be saved! those bastards have stopped a lot of good developments.
BRING BACK PROJECT 360!!! We should start a campain as sombodys got to stand up to this STUPID council!!!
P.S The feeder road development looks great... The cattlemarket road site should get the planning soon and they should be on site before the end of the year... I think it will also push the Bristol Arena plans through quicker if Templegate, Cattlemarket Road and Feeder Road projects were started!!!
El_Greco September 1st, 2007, 06:06 PM Confusing thread.
Update the first page using this template please :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=483225
Also what is happening here?I hope theyre not demolishing these warehouses?
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Gee31 September 1st, 2007, 06:34 PM Confusing thread.
Update the first page using this template please :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=483225
Also what is happening here?I hope theyre not demolishing these warehouses?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/El_Greco/Bristol20.jpg
They have been braced (The green metal things on the exterior) and I dont think they are going to knock them down... They are Listed I think anyway...
Where did you get the picture from???
Thanks
Schmeek September 1st, 2007, 06:46 PM Gee I think you misread template..:)
El_Greco September 1st, 2007, 07:22 PM They have been braced (The green metal things on the exterior) and I dont think they are going to knock them down... They are Listed I think anyway...
I see.Thanks.
Where did you get the picture from???
Mmm?Its my pic.Taken from somewhere near SS Great Britain.
Bristol Mike September 2nd, 2007, 01:42 AM Nice pic. I wouldn't want those warehouses to be knocked down. They should be kept and renovated into something functional like a history mueum or an art gallery or just some more apartments.
As for the Temple Meads article - yippee!!!
dronkula September 2nd, 2007, 02:09 PM Confusing thread.
Update the first page using this template please :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=483225
Ermm, no - sorry don't have time to do all that.
However, If PJ wants to create a new 'Official Bristol Thread' and stick his great descriptions as the first post, we can ask for have this thread locked and move into the new one.
Bristol Mike September 3rd, 2007, 12:44 AM Took these pictures today.
Firstly, this rather interesting building down by Denmark Street. This is isn't the only penthouse type building in that area of town but I'm quite impressed by it and think more of them should be built like that (on the right buildings that is).
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x137/Bristol_Mike/P1090217.jpg
And an update on the old Bristol and West Tower on St. Augustine's Parade, nothing much seems to be happening.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x137/Bristol_Mike/P1090225.jpg
Delirium September 3rd, 2007, 01:03 AM great pics mikey :yes:
i went by that penthouse development on Denmark street and even then it looks like a lot of work is being done (around the base from what i saw)
it was enshrouded in scaffolding for god knows how long,so its nice to see its going to be finished soon *hopefully* :yes:
PJ1979 September 3rd, 2007, 10:28 AM Yeah I agree those Unity Street Apartments look really good. The old Merchant Venturers College building is one of my favourites.
I posted this before the weekend, bizare really as this is one of the buildings that people are talking about and El Greco posted a pic of. Its the old Purifer House on harbourside. This and the old gas works next door are the last link between harbourside and capricorn quay.
Refurbishment and conversion of Purifier House to provide office use (Class B1), retail use (Class A1) and restaurant/cafe use (Class 3). Erection of three/four storey building to provide ten residential apartments, retail use (Class 1) and restaurant/cafe use (Class 3). Associated car parking, cycle parking, landscaping and boundary treatment. This is the link with associated documents:
http://e2eweb.bristol-city.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JN4D7ZDN0NR00
The purifier House is the one on the right in the photo. The new harbour inlet is directly south of the building and will have active uses fronting the harbour. This refurbishment could look pretty smart.
On the updated thread, I'm happy to put together a summary along the lines of the template El Greco provided, if thats what everyone wants. What's the general consensus?
Scazmattaz September 3rd, 2007, 03:36 PM Had a look at the first post and thought that I might post a few development summaries and images I have to help. The first is Harbourside:
Harbourside - £287 million covering 16.3 acres (6.59 hectares):
Significant regeneration of the northern side of Bristol’s Historic Dock by Crest Nicholson. The site is currently under construction and consists of
• Total mixed use floorspace of 1,093,281 sq ft (101,568 sqm)
• Approximately 500 residential units
• New Harbour inlet and marina
• 383,552 sq ft (35,633m2) of office development predominantly College Square
• 153,381 sq ft (14,494 sqm) Leisure and retail
• 50,206 sq ft (4664.2 sqm) Hotel
• Innovative public art light wall and public spaces
For more info see: http://www.bristol-harbourside.co.uk/default.asp
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1112/harboursideaerialkp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/39/harboursidethecrescentyz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I just wanted to invade your forum and make a few comments: Theres seems to a be hell of a lot of office development going on in Bristol at the moments... whats your unemployment like? Have you got an over or under supply of apartments?
Coventry seems to have a total oversupply of apartments at rediculous prices (i.e. 180K + for a 2-bed) and the commerical sector is very cautious about office development, unless it is out of town (we seem to have literally 10 business parks on crappy edge-of-town sites).
Is this sustainable and is there the demand for new office space in central areas without making other office space in the centre redundant?
Gee31 September 3rd, 2007, 04:49 PM I just wanted to invade your forum and make a few comments: Theres seems to a be hell of a lot of office development going on in Bristol at the moments... whats your unemployment like? Have you got an over or under supply of apartments?
Coventry seems to have a total oversupply of apartments at rediculous prices (i.e. 180K + for a 2-bed) and the commerical sector is very cautious about office development, unless it is out of town (we seem to have literally 10 business parks on crappy edge-of-town sites).
Is this sustainable and is there the demand for new office space in central areas without making other office space in the centre redundant?
The amount of office space here is crazy and its not cheap to have offices here either, its one of the most expensive in the country for office space but they keep building and it keeps getting rented...
The amount of HQs in Bristol has risen like mad and thats one reason it think we can afford to keep building office space.
The apartment front is crazy to... Its really is mad pricing, again some of the most expensive in the country esspecially with the massive property boom Bristol went through. Just to give you a idea... There was a Single Garage sold in Bristol about 3 weeks ago for over £100k. its MADNESS!!! Theres loads of Housing and apartments being build but the cant seem to build enough. They are selling to fast. I dont understand though cos they are madly priced so whos buying all this expensive property???
I think Bristol becoming more sustainable but we want higher projects to be built but our council is seriously backwards!!!
Our unemployment rate (According to the recent thread in the CITY TALK section) is the best in the country so obviously all this development is helping in some way.
Pickle33 September 3rd, 2007, 04:57 PM Bristol Council placed an embargo on any new office space in Bristol City Centre during the mid-80’s until the late 1990’s because of what they viewed as an over-supply problem. As a result all major office developments in the greater Bristol area migrated to out of town locations, especially at the M4/M5 junction at a massive business/technology park called Aztec West.
Since the 2000 Bristol has suffered from a severe shortage of top quality office space and there has recently been a rush of major office schemes which all seem to have started construction at the same time. Bristol has the lowest unemployment rate for any major English city (3%) and the highest GDP per capita of the English Core cities (which is a group of the leading provincial cities in England). In terms of major “UK” cities Bristol is 4th after London, Edinburgh and Glasgow.
As far as city centre flats are concerned there are quite a lot going up, but nothing like on the scale of Manchester or Leeds. Historically, there have been fairly decent housing areas in central Bristol in contrast to places “oop north” where the city centres are usually ringed by deprived and run down housing areas. There is nowhere near the same amount of brownfield land in Bristol compared to northern cities. In saying that Bristol metro area is growing quickly in population terms and the city is virtually built up to the green belt in most areas, so the pressure to build up is going to grow in future years. In saying that a large urban extension is planned for south Bristol to accommodate a large amount of new housing and I think a major new science park is also planned in south Bristol to serve the Airport.
Bristol Mike September 3rd, 2007, 09:50 PM This is really interesting. Thank you for having discussions on this. On the apartment front of things, i took this today up in Clifton and if there is a boom in apartment building still - then plenty more of these would be great, just about anywhere. They fit in with all Bristol's architecture fantastically.
Bogies to terracotta! :nuts:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x137/Bristol_Mike/P1090705.jpg
Scazmattaz September 4th, 2007, 01:41 PM http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x137/Bristol_Mike/P1090705.jpg
That looks well nice!!! So jealous right now :ohno:
Schmeek September 4th, 2007, 11:29 PM Nice shots Mike. That site near Denmark st. hseems to have been in progress for donkeys years! Nice to see it was worth it. And I think the B&W building is actually being transformed quite quickly now that they've got the archealogical stage out of the way.
Anyway, just a few shots for the now.....sorry some are a bit blurry - was driving:ohno:
Harvey Nichs
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01832.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01833.jpg
By the fire station (ps does anyone have any renders of this one?), progressing well.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01831.jpg
Temple quay 2(or Central). You can see the work continuing apace in the background, whilst on the riverbank, diggers and the like preparing the land for the next stage of offices next to the floating harbour.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/DSC01839.jpg
More update to follow later this week.
yogib52 September 5th, 2007, 12:19 AM By the fire station (ps does anyone have any renders of this one?
here you go schemeek, courtesy of Pj19179 a while back, thanks PJ!
I think there is also a Broadquay image from Queen Square floating about, but I don't seem to have it.
Attached are images of Temple Back which is currently under construction. So far the site is being cleared, the building partially demolished, (they are keeping the facade) and they have been driving girders into the harbour bed to expand the harbour wall to create space for a walkway. the first image is from Temple way.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2974/templebackpr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
These are the Temple Back frontage
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4708/templeback01315dk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9938/templeback02fulloz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The last one is the residential element of the scheme at the Brewery end.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5763/templebridgeuq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Schmeek September 5th, 2007, 05:18 PM Cheers yogi.
From stride Treglowen
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/victoriastreet.jpg
The location of this landmark building on the intersection of Victoria Street and St Thomas Street provides an unbeatable opportunity for signalling the entrance to Redcliffe Village.
Through close consultation with local residents’ groups and Bristol City Council, the project seeks to be a key site in aiding the area’s redevelopment.
Our design proposals include an enhanced ground floor. This will utilise a fully glazed façade in order to provide extensive new views of the surrounding listed building frontages. Set back upper levels and a green roof will provide the ultimate roofscape.
The façade has been designed to use the latest shading technologies; using material treatments that are contemporary yet contextual.
I had always wondered what they would put here. And it looks exactly like what I was thinking of. That old office building there presently looks very tired.
Also has anyone got any idea what they're gonna do with the green space in this shot - it's been there for years now, and is the last piece remaining on this patch. If they intend to leave it as a green space they should pull the surrounding boards down.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/Commercial-TempleQuay.jpg
Delirium September 5th, 2007, 05:38 PM ^^woah schmeek that new proposal looks amazing! Brizzle doesn't really have any truly good glassy buildings.
the temple back ones look alright but i dont think it will look that good, (although still good enough however)
hull.co.uk September 5th, 2007, 05:53 PM Bristol new stuff looks fab.
And I loved it before it got all modern so it should be amazing in a few years time, a new European destination, and apart from London, my favorite city in the south and most of the north.
Gee31 September 5th, 2007, 05:55 PM Cheers yogi.
From stride Treglowen
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/victoriastreet.jpg
The location of this landmark building on the intersection of Victoria Street and St Thomas Street provides an unbeatable opportunity for signalling the entrance to Redcliffe Village.
Through close consultation with local residents’ groups and Bristol City Council, the project seeks to be a key site in aiding the area’s redevelopment.
Our design proposals include an enhanced ground floor. This will utilise a fully glazed façade in order to provide extensive new views of the surrounding listed building frontages. Set back upper levels and a green roof will provide the ultimate roofscape.
The façade has been designed to use the latest shading technologies; using material treatments that are contemporary yet contextual.
I had always wondered what they would put here. And it looks exactly like what I was thinking of. That old office building there presently looks very tired.
Also has anyone got any idea what they're gonna do with the green space in this shot - it's been there for years now, and is the last piece remaining on this patch. If they intend to leave it as a green space they should pull the surrounding boards down.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/Commercial-TempleQuay.jpg
Where are they going to put this Glass Tower thing??? Victoria street I know but what plot???
Also the Green in your picture is part of the temple quay 2 development... It will be built on very very soon...
Gee31 September 5th, 2007, 05:57 PM Bristol new stuff looks fab.
And I loved it before it got all modern so it should be amazing in a few years time, a new European destination, and apart from London, my favorite city in the south and most of the north.
Thank You... We are sort of Proud of Bristol!!!
Gee31 September 5th, 2007, 06:31 PM So its finally here then...
Heres some info on the Biggest development in South Bristol!!!
Its going to cost £250m all in and should be ready for the first phase to to open in summer 2009...
First Phase is as follows:
The £45m community hospital is set to open in the summer of 2009, with the academy, costing £30m, following in the autumn. By the spring of 2010 they will have been joined by a £21m "healthplex", or leisure site, with an eight-lane, 50-metre swimming pool.
The full article is on the following link:
http://www.epost.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145365&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145191&contentPK=18303465&folderPk=83726&pNodeId=231305
Heres some pics...
The Skills Academy:
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/academy/academy-images/academy-visual-1-900px-wide.jpg
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/academy/academy-images/academy-visual-2-900px-wide.jpg
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/academy/academy-images/academy-visual-4-900px-wide.jpg
South Bristol Hospital:
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/hospital/hospital-vis-colsketch-900px.gif
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/hospital/hospital-vis-front-900px.gif
The HealthPlex
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/leisure/leisure-vis-foyer-600px.jpg
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/leisure/leisure-vis-pool-600px.jpg
All this is the first Phase and all is in one big area...
http://www.hengrovepark.com/development/map/map.jpg
http://www.hengrovepark.com/images/hengrove-aerial-600-wide.jpg
The following was approved in a outline plan in 2006:
A newly landscaped park of 48 hectares providing a range of informal spaces for a variety of uses (including 15 hectares of ‘The Mounds’ which is an area of ecological conservation).
11 hectares of residential land for up to 690 new homes
South Bristol Community Hospital
A 50m swimming pool and sports centre
Over 8 hectares of employment land for a range of office and light industrial units
'Common infrastructure’ comprising roads, car parking and footpaths.
So what do you guys think???
Delirium September 5th, 2007, 06:34 PM ^^the skills academy looks very good, the hosital looks standard seeing as its well, a hospital!
yes we are sort of proud of this city, sort of ;)
djmaxliving September 5th, 2007, 06:42 PM there is some really nice bit and there some sad bits i think the old stone building should be keeped and add more green bits which alway have a good image but there not alot of tall building which is good its a lovely small city
Schmeek September 5th, 2007, 08:12 PM Where are they going to put this Glass Tower thing??? Victoria street I know but what plot???
Also the Green in your picture is part of the temple quay 2 development... It will be built on very very soon...
Sorry Gee, struggling to find an image to show you. It'll be obvious when you see it. The current office tapers to an angle, but not quite to the point that this render shows the new one will. As you pass 1 Redcliffe street towards temple circus, its on the right where st. thomas street joins at a 30degree angle(the one way section of st. Thomas st.). It is in the space between these, or coming from the other direction down victoria st., next building on from the new hartwell house. Hope that clears it up for you...:)
What are they building on that green patch 'very, very soon'?
Also, the south bristol stuff looks kinda cool dosen't it? I had a newsletter in the post the other week about this but couldn't scan it.
Red Source September 6th, 2007, 01:13 AM http://www.londonandcounty.co.uk/projects_bristol.htm
Not a lot more info but details from the developer
As for the "green space" at Temple Quay.......a temporary car park!
Delirium September 6th, 2007, 01:15 AM ^^OH! a new member!
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
:banana: :banana: :banana:
hellooooo!
Red Source September 6th, 2007, 01:36 AM A forum / thread that discusses all things Bristol.....couldn't resist!
Never realised there were so many people out there with the same enthusiasm for the way the City is developed.
My home City has always been a passion of mine and i'm always sniffing around and digging to find news and info....with a few good sources!
Will be happy to share and discuss:gossip:
Delirium September 6th, 2007, 01:42 AM ^^try to get out onto to the other forums too :yes: although beware its fairly flame-ish (if you know what i mean, arguments seem to break out as much as a greasy greasy teens skin)
not entirely too sure how many Brizzle forumers are now, but its growing :yes:
you're a welcome edition Red source, very welcome.
the other forumers will introduce themselves sometime come daylight :D
Red Source September 6th, 2007, 02:03 AM Thanks for the welcome Helium
I'll probably just stick to the Bristol Developments forum, available time will dictate that and I'm not really interested in getting engrossed in discussing / arguing with other Cities members. It seems to end up a like a playgrounfd fight "my Dads bigger than your Dad".....a bit like the guy from Nottingham earlier in the thread! :gaah:
Till the next time......
Schmeek September 6th, 2007, 02:16 AM Welcome:) Or is it just re-registered? Seen that avatar before from cuidad Bristol.
Yeah I saw that render as well - it looks to be about 7or8 stories but is hard to tell....
I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any plans for the temple circus roundabout? I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that they were considering putting a huge wind turbine there(which would be cool), but it definately needs something. The road will be looking pretty smart all the way up to it from the m32 once construction has finished on cabot circus, glassfields, and clerical medical, plus all the work either way down the harbour, and I think there is an ideal opportunity to place a landmark of some kind at the end of the 'corridor'. 360 would have done the job but that is history, as we all know. I was thinking about the special glass in the C/M building and wondered if they could save it and incorporate it into some sculpture or something high that would reflect it all over the shop from the roundabout itself. Kind of consolidating the historic link between the city and concorde. Here's something I came up with earlier - ok don't laugh, it's pure geeky visionary, I know....:lol:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/sculpure.jpg
Delirium September 6th, 2007, 02:48 AM ^^ thats very good P:yes: something maritime based (Bristols history) but also aerospace too (the future-ish) although it has to look different from teh spinnaker tower would be good, the city definitley needs something to break away from the lines so to speak, but it needs to be so absolutely amazing though, that way maybe the council will possibly accept some more talls nearby , or at least until an unfortunate series of natural disasters finishes off the cretins.
Gee31 September 6th, 2007, 02:55 AM A forum / thread that discusses all things Bristol.....couldn't resist!
Never realised there were so many people out there with the same enthusiasm for the way the City is developed.
My home City has always been a passion of mine and i'm always sniffing around and digging to find news and info....with a few good sources!
Will be happy to share and discuss:gossip:
Welcome indeed...
Just out of interest, how did you find the site???
Gee31 September 6th, 2007, 02:56 AM Welcome:) Or is it just re-registered? Seen that avatar before from cuidad Bristol.
Yeah I saw that render as well - it looks to be about 7or8 stories but is hard to tell....
I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any plans for the temple circus roundabout? I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that they were considering putting a huge wind turbine there(which would be cool), but it definately needs something. The road will be looking pretty smart all the way up to it from the m32 once construction has finished on cabot circus, glassfields, and clerical medical, plus all the work either way down the harbour, and I think there is an ideal opportunity to place a landmark of some kind at the end of the 'corridor'. 360 would have done the job but that is history, as we all know. I was thinking about the special glass in the C/M building and wondered if they could save it and incorporate it into some sculpture or something high that would reflect it all over the shop from the roundabout itself. Kind of consolidating the historic link between the city and concorde. Here's something I came up with earlier - ok don't laugh, it's pure geeky visionary, I know....:lol:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/sculpure.jpg
That would be one BAD ASS monument... good luck trying to get the council to agree in letting somthing being taller than castlemead... LOL
Gee31 September 6th, 2007, 03:04 AM there is some really nice bit and there some sad bits i think the old stone building should be keeped and add more green bits which alway have a good image but there not alot of tall building which is good its a lovely small city
Sorry I have no idea what your talking about here... Please elaborate... Are you a new member from Bristol???
P.S Bristol is quite a large city...
Pickle33 September 6th, 2007, 10:14 AM http://www.londonandcounty.co.uk/projects_bristol.htm
Not a lot more info but details from the developer
As for the "green space" at Temple Quay.......a temporary car park!
I work in Temple Quay and know a wee bit about the "grass site". Originally a hotel was planned for this site, however all interest in it dried up in the wake of 9/11. Its contaminated land and would be expensive to develop. I thiink that Castelmore want to hold it back until the new bridge alignment and design is finalised as part of the TQ Central development. It'll probably come forward in conjunction with the Temple Meads Station developments. There'll be no talls though since the station is Grade 1 listed. For now its got temporary permission for a car park...think they will need this when they start redevloping the car park and parking shed at the station.
PJ1979 September 6th, 2007, 10:53 AM Blimey, out of the office for a day and loads happens. Welcome to Red Source, good to see another new member.
Nice renders of the Healthpark Gee. Finally actually looks like this might happen, been talked about for ages now.
Interesting new glass block on Victoria street. The building would replace the old Norwich Union Building and possibly the Lyons Davidson Building. As Schmeek says its on the junction with St thomas Street opposite the Paragon Development. Really visable building as you see it from loads of directions, so personally think it would be a great location for a landmark, especially given its flat iron profile.
Nice update on the vacant Temple Quay site from Pickle, I have heard similar things, Temporary car parks for this site and the one running back towards the industrial museum, is a bit lame but understandable given the rest of temple quay and the bridge etc. The RDA guy I spoke to a while back said they would be brought to the market in Autumn. Hopefully this will happen and some scheme will be drawn up in conjunction with the station so these can start on site when the temporary car parks permission expires.
Finally some quality creative thinking for a sculpture by Schmeek. I really like the fact that you have reused the temple way house glass windows. Landmark art would be perfect for this roundabout.
Red Source September 6th, 2007, 11:03 AM Welcome indeed...
Just out of interest, how did you find the site???
Kind of fell upon it whilst browsing the web. I usually check out a number of sites on a daily/weekly basis to update on any news and have been viewing this site for a few weeks. Decided it was time to join and add my two pennies worth
Schmeek September 6th, 2007, 01:58 PM Excellent, RS. The more the merrier. Looking forward to hearing some juicy news!
This thread has really started to pick up a head of steam these past few weeks, which is important because at times(in the past) the thread would stagnate for days on end, which means less views from foreign(other than Briz)forumers. We should be able to push on and maybe claim our own sub-forum in the new year. It's totally reasonable not being given our own at the moment due to lack of interest, but Bristol is definately a big enough city with enough happening to warrant one once the views/replies indicate this.
This highlights the situation:
Confusing thread.
Update the first page using this template please
It is all over the shop, and would be so nice to have one thread per subject/building/development....
PJ1979 September 6th, 2007, 03:08 PM I'm happy to start a new Bristol thread as Dronkula suggested using some of the summaries I posted as the starting point. Shall we go for it?
Schmeek September 6th, 2007, 04:26 PM I'd say so but not really my call...:)
PJ1979 September 6th, 2007, 04:42 PM Not my call either. The thread as stands is starting to attract some more attention. By creating a new one we could really put together a good summary post and this might help us to attract more attention. Would we be effectively starting again or could we get this thread moved into the new one?
Like you say I don't think we are anywhere near getting our own subforum just yet, so are there any other benefits for starting a new Official Bristol thread or is it simply about trying to attract new member to the bristol Forum?
I think we really need a general consensus of this issue.
Who wants to continue with the thread as is?
Who wants a new thread with the existing one moved in (potentially)?
Gee31 September 6th, 2007, 05:23 PM Not my call either. The thread as stands is starting to attract some more attention. By creating a new one we could really put together a good summary post and this might help us to attract more attention. Would we be effectively starting again or could we get this thread moved into the new one?
Like you say I don't think we are anywhere near getting our own subforum just yet, so are there any other benefits for starting a new Official Bristol thread or is it simply about trying to attract new member to the bristol Forum?
I think we really need a general consensus of this issue.
Who wants to continue with the thread as is?
Who wants a new thread with the existing one moved in (potentially)?
This threads fine with me... Need to update the first page so the effort you will put into the new thread you could just put in the first page of this one...
But its up to you...
I dont normally make sence so just ignore me... :-)
dronkula September 6th, 2007, 06:15 PM Start a new thread. Even the title of this thread doesn't 'conform' to the standard titles (it should really be called the 'Official Bristol Thread'). And, like I said, if you want to first post updated in this one, you'll need me to do it and I don't have the time, or the pictures, to do that.
So, PJ, can you start the new one and use the summaries that you've put together as a good first post?
Once the new thread is created, make the 2nd post a link back to this thread, and likewise, make the last post in this thread link to the new one and then get this one locked (so none of what's been said get's too lost). I don't think you'd be able to merge this thread into the new one because it'll still list the posts in date order.
dronkula September 6th, 2007, 06:18 PM Oh, and just to make it that little bit more complicated, when you're putting together the first post, it might be worth splitting the developments into 'Under Construction' (eg. Finzels Quay, Broadmead), 'In Planning' (eg. Bristol Arena, Bristol University) and 'Vision' (eg. One Dove Lane).
PJ1979 September 6th, 2007, 07:39 PM I think that format would help.
Do you think there is any way that access to the first post in this thread could be changed with your consent Dronkula to someone with the time to update it.
I have know Idea if this is possible but if it was then we could keep this thread and get the updated summary page too!
Gee31 September 7th, 2007, 01:39 AM Plans for the redesign of Knowle's Broadwalk shopping centre have been unveiled by its owners.
Frogmore wants to give the centre a facelift and yesterday held an exhibition showing plans to build 80 new flats, extra office space, and a new facade to the existing structure on Wells Road.
But local traders who have expressed concerns over the fact they were not consulted prior to the unveiling, said they were still not satisfied and that they could lose out on future trade.
Hanne Puttonen, Frogmore's planning manager, said there were no plans to turn the shopping centre into an entirely residential development.
She said: "We are trying to revive the shopping centre and give it a new face. I am sure that when it was built it was state-of-the-art, but now it doesn't attract as many people as it could.
"We are looking at how we can get trade in the centre going in the long term, and we have ideas about flats overlooking Redcatch Park and the entrance. The idea is not to lose the retail outlets."
She denied a suggestion the firm could sell the shopping centre once it gets planning permission.
The designs unveiled were merely design studies on which people could express their opinions prior to any planning application, she said.
They include re-cladding the front of the centre, turning the offices on top into flats, and using a currently unused part of the car park for more apartments on two floors. More office space could also be placed on the roof, while the car park would be landscaped, she said.
Traders in the area said the centre attracts shoppers to Knowle and they would not want to lose them, especially as their shop rents are high.
Matt Savage from Knowle Traders' Association, who previously complained that local businesses had not been consulted prior to the unveiling, said: "I still have reservations because the plans look a bit pink and fluffy - in that they don't tell us much.
"As Hanne said, this is just to get the ball rolling but I think this is just to see what people's reaction is before they put their real plans in."
He said Frogmore had agreed to meet his group.
Other traders were cautious.
Will Appleby of M &W Meats in Wells Road said: "It will bring more people to the area, but I still can't understand why they didn't tell us about it beforehand, so we could have helped push the scheme."
Pedro Nunez of The Barber Shop in Redcatch Road said: "It doesn't look as bad as I thought it would, but it would have been nice to have known more about it before they unveiled the plans."
Amir Amrabadi of Mr Crispins Fish and Chips in Wells Road said: "One of my worries is that the dentist inside the centre might go, which has thousands of patients and brings people into our shops."
Knowle councillor Gary Hopkins, who was present, said: "There is some concern in the community about the investment in the revamp when there are empty shop units in the existing centre. If we can get the investment, we can get the units filled."
The exhibition continues at Broadwalk today from noon to 5pm.
Has Anybody got any pictures of this development???
Gee31 September 7th, 2007, 01:40 AM A Bristol landmark building is set to be renovated as part of the Harbourside regeneration scheme.The Purifier House, near the docks in Anchor Road, has stood derelict since the 1950s after a former gasworks was closed down.
Now its owner, the Service Apartment Company (Saco), wants to turn it into office space with a shop on the ground floor, a new "boat house" with 10 flats and a shop or restaurant.
A planning application has been submitted to the city council with the hope of winning planning permission so work can start. The site has already been decontaminated.
The building is one of two in the former gasworks close to Anchor Road, but plans for the other one have not yet to be announced.
Ian Neary, for the developers, said the grade-II listed building would be revamped inside and the roofline raised.
He said: "We bought the building a year ago and looked at a number of options for the use of it - retail, residential and more.
"We have consulted with English Heritage, the civic society and the council to understand their views. The building used to be a purifier house for processing gas, and was largely open plan, so if we had put homes into it, that would have meant putting a lot of partition walls in.
"What we have tried to do instead is restore it to its former glory and make it commercially viable."
Mr Neary said repairs would start on Monday, prior to planning permission being granted, to shore up the building and a wall on Gas Ferry Road leading into the site because they were deteriorating quickly.
A total of 33,000 sq ft of open-plan offices would be created in the building on three floors if the redevelopment gets the go-ahead. The original window shapes will be used and a total of 25 parking spaces have been included in the proposals, along with cycle parking.
Mr Neary said Bristol Ferry Company, which provides water taxis in the docks, had already expressed an interest in taking on the shop space in the Purifier House for ticket sales. The flats will be split into five one-bedroom and five two-bedroom, double-storey flats.
The development would use harbour water for cooling and feature solar panels and an electricity-generating windmill.
The Purifier House and adjoining buildings are understood to date back to the 1850s. The site is close to the Canons Marsh development by Crest Nicholson, which features new flats, shops, a hotel and casino.
jjmacjj September 7th, 2007, 07:52 AM Cheers yogi.
From stride Treglowen
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/victoriastreet.jpg
The location of this landmark building on the intersection of Victoria Street and St Thomas Street provides an unbeatable opportunity for signalling the entrance to Redcliffe Village.
Through close consultation with local residents’ groups and Bristol City Council, the project seeks to be a key site in aiding the area’s redevelopment.
Our design proposals include an enhanced ground floor. This will utilise a fully glazed façade in order to provide extensive new views of the surrounding listed building frontages. Set back upper levels and a green roof will provide the ultimate roofscape.
The façade has been designed to use the latest shading technologies; using material treatments that are contemporary yet contextual.
I had always wondered what they would put here. And it looks exactly like what I was thinking of. That old office building there presently looks very tired.
Chaps - hate to be the bearer of bad news but, i'm pretty sure that this isn't happening.... it's been on the tride streglown website for ages without anyone hearing anymore about it & i'm pretty sure i saw a proposal for this site the other day which wasn't half as striking (although, to be honest, anything to replace the Norwich union building would be very welcome). I'll have a dig around & see if i can find the proposal i saw..... if anyone can find info to the contrary that suggests this glass one IS being built - Fan - bloody - tastic.... if you look closely at the picture, i think the wording states Victoria Tower!!!!
As for the new thread - i'm all for it if PJ is willing to put the effort in. The first upmteen pages are filled with pics that are now so out of date they're a bit pointless. A clear intro showing whats going on & whats proposed etc can only attract more users....
Have to say that i'm lovin a few of the developments that have popped up on here in the last few days - the purifier house looks perfect for the site.... only bristolmikes suggestion of an art gallery or museum type thing could improve it for me... the South Bristol developments also look amazing - lets not forget that the urban splash development under construction at Lake shore will be next door to this (sort of - not sure of exact geogaphy)...... this'll transform life south of the river hopefully
Schmeek September 7th, 2007, 01:39 PM Bugger. I should have known it to be too good to be true. You must have great eyesight to read 'victoria tower' cos I can just about make out victoria but the rest is a total blur. Good spot though if you are right...
I came into Bristol Temple meads this morn(on the northern line), and have to say - the city looked great! You get a pretty good view coming in that way and the sun was shining. There seemed to be cranes everywhere, like the whole city was under construction! It will be even better when temple quay central is finished.
PJ1979 September 7th, 2007, 02:56 PM Ok, I have started to work on a new first post so hopefully i'll be able to start a new thread pretty soon with a half decent post that can be improved as time goes on.
A while back there was talk of access to Cabot Circus during the construction. This is the article in today's post on the subject;
People will have the chance to walk along the newly-created streets of Cabot Circus later this month, during a special open weekend.There is just one year to go before the £500 million extension to Broadmead shopping centre is completed.
Developer Bristol Alliance has announced plans for a public open weekend on Saturday and Sunday, September 22 and 23, from 9am to 4pm.
Visitors will be given a free guided tour of the construction site by a member of the Bristol Alliance project team.
They will have the opportunity to see the shops under construction and the dome structure supporting the creation of the curved glass roof.
Computer-generated images will also be on display to show what the area will look like when completed.
Bristol Alliance project director Bob De Barr said: "Having worked on this project for many years since its inception, it is incredibly exciting to have reached the milestone of one year until opening.
"The city centre has changed beyond recognition over the last two years and we are delighted to be able to welcome the people of Bristol on to the site to see for themselves the shape of things to come."
As well as witnessing first hand the transformation of the area, visitors will be entertained by performers from Bristol-based Cirque Bijou over the weekend.
There may be queues so anyone wanting to take advantage of this one-off opportunity is advised to arrive in plenty of time.
Safety equipment will be supplied but visitors are required to wear sensible, flat-heeled shoes and are also encouraged to travel light, as any bags will have to be searched prior to site tours for security reasons.
Cabot Circus is being built by the Bristol Alliance, which is a partnership between two property companies, Land Securities Group plc and Hammerson plc.
It will have a total retail and leisure area, including restaurants and cafes, of 1 million sq ft (92,900 sq m).
The four-storey House of Fraser store was the first building to be completed and is now about to be fitted out.
A 37,000 sq ft (3,450 sq m) Harvey Nichols store is under construction in Quakers Friars and there will be a 3,000-seat 13-screen cinema, as well as 15 major stores and 120 smaller units, 20 of which will be restaurants and cafes.
The public spaces include a square in what was the Quakers Friars car park, which will be surrounded by shops, cafes and apartments, and the glass-covered square in front of the House of Fraser store.
Offices, a 120-room hotel, 280-bed student accommodation and 24 affordable homes are also part of the development.
PJ1979 September 7th, 2007, 03:44 PM Dear all, I've finally taken the plunge and started a new Official Bristol Thread. I'll endevour to get this old thread locked so please follow the link to continue to discuss the many exciting development in Bristol:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=15234319#post15234319
Many Thanks
PJ
Schmeek September 7th, 2007, 09:17 PM Nicely done with the new thread!:cheers:
There's a good article on 'the island' development in today's observer. The render is fairly good as well, can someone scan it in please?
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