Fictional stadium in APF 2K8. Wild.
http://i.cnn.net/si/2007/images/08/02/gameroom_apf2k8_2.jpg
Yeah, it's not a real stadium but it is unique.

The MCG claims to have the world's tallest light stands at approx 75 metres tall.

From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCG :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/CG-MelbCricketGround-Pano.jpg/800px-CG-MelbCricketGround-Pano.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Renovated_MCG_for_Commonwealth_Games.jpg/800px-Renovated_MCG_for_Commonwealth_Games.jpg

Roof.
Best ever.

"The MCG claims to have the world's tallest light stands at approx 75 metres tall."



Don't say that to a Man Citeh fan or they'll start going on about the size of the floodlights @ maine road!

Everybody new exactly what you were saying, there was alot sarcasm in the last couple of posts. Oh and the majority of arenas be they in the US or elsewhere tend to be in downtown locations.

MSG is not located in downtown Manhattan, it is in midtown Manhattan, which also makes it very unique.

I never said it was, I was pointing out that most US arenas are in downtown locations, you had seemed to think that they were largely in suburban or very in accessible spots.

Starting from the ground up, which stadium of capacity 50,000 upwards, football/athletics, has been built in the shortest amount of time since 1990

Alltel Stadium in Jacksonville would have to be up there. HOK and co. had to demolish 90% of the Gator Bowl, Design and built the new 73 000 seat stadium in 20 months to be ready for the Jaguars first season of 1995. They were successful.

Alltel Stadium in Jacksonville would have to be up there. HOK and co. had to demolish 90% of the Gator Bowl, Design and built the new 73 000 seat stadium in 20 months to be ready for the Jaguars first season of 1995. They were successful.

so no earthworks needed? no roof?..am i correct in saying that a roof and earthworks would have added another 10 months of work?

Wembley :colgate:

Nou Mestalla in Valencia is necessarily to be finished in 25 months time.

well, it is only 33,000 but the olympiakos stadium was built very very very fast/

Roofs usually don't take long to build as the infrastructure work for them are usually done as the rest of the stadium is built. If anything roofs seem to go up quickly. And if we want to qualify what is a complete stadium, then a roof needs to be fully closed to count. That's why we can't just count roofed stadiums. Some roofs are more complex than others.

why is no one interested ???

Wembley :colgate:

a sense of humour is always welcome

Roofs usually don't take long to build as the infrastructure work for them are usually done as the rest of the stadium is built. If anything roofs seem to go up quickly. And if we want to qualify what is a complete stadium, then a roof needs to be fully closed to count. That's why we can't just count roofed stadiums. Some roofs are more complex than others.

Agreed if anything set a standard as a 20 000 seat open stadium will beat a 60 000 roofed stadium.

well, it is only 33,000 but the olympiakos stadium was built very very very fast/

50 000+ only...

Kolkata has two stadiums with a 75,000+ capacity:

Saltlake Stadium-120,000
Eden Gardens-90,000

I don't know if it was mentioned :)

Kyiv, Ukraine: NSK Olimpyysky - 83450
http://www.bass-attack.com.ua/image/DSC04179.JPG

Dublin - Croke Park (Páirc an Chrócaigh) - 82,500

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/65/197369124_9b77fb1c57.jpg
http://www.themountcarmel.com/images/croke_park.jpg

Canada doesn't have a single stadium that has such capacity. The closest is Edmonton's Commonwealth Stadium (~66 000) and Montreal's Stadium Olympique (~70 000?). I know Stadium Olympique isn't being used as much as it is not meeting the needs of today anymore - I know the Montreal Alouettes left for a smaller but nicer stadium.

Edmonton has a capicty of 60,217. Montreal is listed at 65,255.

The only sporting facility in Canada to exceed 75,000 is Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in Montreal with a capacity of 100,000 for auto racing.

Los Angeles has at least 3, with the LA Colosseum at 92,000 (has had games with over 100,000 before), Rose Bowl - 92,000 (also had matches with over 100,000) and the Fontana Speedway - 120,000 i believe.

Rose Bowl

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/RoseBowl2.gif
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/los_angeles_rose_bowl192000.jpg

Colosseum

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/los_angeles_memorial192000.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/300px-Los_Angeles_Memorial_Coliseum.jpg

Fontana SpeedWay

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/fontana_speedway.jpg

other possibilities include Hollywood Park and Santa Anita, although im not sure of their capacity.

Edmonton has a capicty of 60,217. Montreal is listed at 65,255.

The only sporting facility in Canada to exceed 75,000 is Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in Montreal with a capacity of 100,000 for auto racing.

Ok, I got the numbers mixed up. Didn't know about the numbers for CGV. edmonton has a makeshift circuit at the airport which can get to ~200 000 capacity. But it's not a sports facility so it doesn't count by far.

You were close. Just refining the numbers a bit. Not sure if any race track qualifies, but Montreal, Toronto, Edmonton and Vancouver would all be over 75,000 permanent and temporary seats.

Just been to Budapest....are there any plans for an Olympics from this city??

Hungary is a strong nation in the Games. Budapest is a big city and seems capable. A nice break from the traditional Western European hosts.

What does everyone think?? especially hungarians...

What a bull.... thread
see you local worldstadiumssite I would say...

I've heard that they have/had plans to organize a bid.

Yes, this thread would be better if it were "How many cities have more than one stadium greater than 75,000", otherwise we're just naming stadiums.

Hungary (with Croatia) did bid for Euro 2012. So Olympics in Budapest is a good idea.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=507712

Yeah nice, shame of the atleticstrack...

Don't like the roof (in the second image) and the tracks, but I like that it's completely below ground level.
And the cap is of course nice too.

well thanks for the help guys. Don't know what we would do with out you.

Don't like it...

From the olympic competition of Budapest:

http://www.budapestiolimpia.hu/?lang=eng&page_id=21

Hosting a European Cup (and at that, only bidding for it, not even getting it yet let alone hosting the event properly) and hosting the Olympic Games are two completely different things, IMO.

Wembley :colgate:

That will win it any day ;)

It would be fantastic if the Olympics were held in Budapest. First of all, our sporters really deserve it. It would be a great occasion to upgrade the infrastructure of the city, especially the sporting facilities, providing a great environment for the future champions.
I think we have more chance for 2020 than 2016 because the games won't be given to Europe after London IMO.
What's more, it could be a "home race" for all the Central and Eastern-Europe countries (the same way as the home race for the Hungarian 125cc motorbike racer Gábor Talmácsi is the Czech GP at Brno :))
I don't think that the organization would cause problems, Budapest and Hungary has already been host to many world competitions. The Olympics would be almost the same, just much bigger than everything ever experienced here :)

It would be fantastic if the Olympics were held in Budapest. First of all, our sporters really deserve it.

Why?

It would be a great occasion to upgrade the infrastructure of the city, especially the sporting facilities, providing a great environment for the future champions.

This is true for pretty much every city that bids for the Olympics.

I think we have more chance for 2020 than 2016 because the games won't be given to Europe after London IMO.

I agree.

What's more, it could be a "home race" for all the Central and Eastern-Europe countries (the same way as the home race for the Hungarian 125cc motorbike racer Gábor Talmácsi is the Czech GP at Brno :))

Prague is also preparing a bid as far as I know. IOC members from Central Europe will probably be split between the two cities. Others might not vote for either one to make sure a bid from their own country in the near future (4 to 8 years time) would not be pointless.

I don't think that the organization would cause problems, Budapest and Hungary has already been host to many world competitions. The Olympics would be almost the same, just much bigger than everything ever experienced here :)

The Olympics are huge and sofar are only becoming bigger. If it keeps growing the way it does it will require an investment Hungary cannot affort.

Why?
Just take a look at the Summer Olympic statistics. We are on the 7th place on the list of the Olympic points collected so far:

1. United States
2. Soviet Union
3. United Kingdom
4. Germany
5. France
6. Italy
7. Hungary
8. Sweden
...
10. Australia
11. Japan
12. China
13. Finland
...
17. The Netherlands
18. Canada
...
21. South Korea
...
27. Belgium
...
29. Greece
30. Spain
...
40. Mexico

These are the countries who already held the olympics (China will in 2008) and Hungary. I think it speaks for itself. In the first 13, only Hungary has never been a host to the games (the 9th is the German Dem. Rep. but they won't have the games for obvious reasons).

Prague is also preparing a bid as far as I know. IOC members from Central Europe will probably be split between the two cities. Others might not vote for either one to make sure a bid from their own country in the near future (4 to 8 years time) would not be pointless.

Of course those will win who have the best relations, just look at the Euro 2012 bid.

The Olympics are huge and sofar are only becoming bigger. If it keeps growing the way it does it will require an investment Hungary cannot affort.

I think if Greece did it in 2004, then we can do it as well. Investments have to be done in a way that the Olympic facilities can be used after the games as well, even at non-sport purposes.

I am not so sure Athens would be picked if it weren't not for its Olympic legacy. Budapest is a great city that could host but market sizes do come into play for the IOC. If Beijing were in Taiwan it wouldn't be hosting the Olympics lets say.

The days of a Sweden, Greece, or say Portugal getting a summer games will be fewer and far in the future I think.

Budapest is a great city, and would make a nice host in Eastern Europe.

I am not so sure Athens would be picked if it weren't not for its Olympic legacy. Budapest is a great city that could host but market sizes do come into play for the IOC. If Beijing were in Taiwan it wouldn't be hosting the Olympics lets say.

The days of a Sweden, Greece, or say Portugal getting a summer games will be fewer and far in the future I think.

Thats where you are wrong. The IOC under Rogges presıdency ıs cappıng the sıze of the Games... and cullıng back redundent sports (lıke baseball.. WTF was that doıng there anyway??).

The poınt of thıs ıs to keep the Games accessable for smaller hosts (not to say Budapest ıs small).

Western Europe ıs overdone... personally I thınk Europes next summer Games should be ın the former Eastern Bloc... and Budapest ıs perfect.

west/east is passed. Budapest is central europe. and central europe is more developped that eastern europe for olympics that's sure.

west/east is passed. Budapest is central europe. and central europe is more developped that eastern europe for olympics that's sure.

An overwhelming majority supports Budapest
to host the Olympic Games
BOM (BUDAPEST OLYMPIC MOVEMENT)
PRESS RELEASE
26. FEBRUARY 2007


Eight out of ten Hungarians think that bringing the Games to Hungary would be one of the greatest achievements in the country's history. 77 per cent of the population supports that in 2011 the government should submit Budapest's application for the 2020 Games. To achieve this, 73 per cent of the population believes that the Parliament must pass the Olympic Act with a five-party consensus as early as this year. Despite the economic restrictions 61 per cent is ready to support the issue with a donation of HUF 4000 - concludes a recent survey done by Szonda-Ipsos to the commission of BOM.

The national, representative, phone survey of 2000 respondents conducted between 12 and 16 February investigated how strong the support of a Hungarian Olympic application is in the country.
79 per cent of the respondents thinks hosting the Olympic Games would be one of the greatest achievements in Hungary's history. 53 per cent believes the issue of the Games is just suitable for creating a sense of national unity in today's divided political world.

The survey concludes that the support of the Olympics in Hungary is still strong irrespective of the present economic, political and social situation. Seven out of ten people think that elaboration of a so-called Olympic Act is needed as early as this year so that the Olympics related codification procedures can be started by the parliamentary parties.

77 per cent of the respondents believes that in year 2011 the government should submit the application for the 2020 Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games. This view is shared by 70 per cent of Budapest's population, 74 per cent of those living in county seats and 83 per cent of those in townships.

The survey also points out that most of the respondents understands clearly the long-term positive social and economic impact of staging the Olympic Games. 72 per cent of the population thinks that the Olympic Games in Hungary would strengthen the country's economic, political and cultural reputation on the global scene and also position the country as a regional leader on the long run. While 77 per cent believes that the state of traffic would improve due to the Games, 66 per cent reckons that the Olympics would have an immensely positive impact on the development of the country-side. 81 per cent of the respondents expects the tourism to boost that would be also beneficiary to the provinces.

The researchers were surprised to conclude that, despite the economic constraints, 61 percent of the Hungarian population is willing to support the issue of Olympics with an annual sum of HUF 4000, whereas last year only 53 per cent of the population agreed with the initiative (based on a survey conducted by Szonda-Ipsos in May 2006). To top it all, 62 per cent of the tax payers would offer 1 percent of their tax for the issue of the Olympics.

The survey has also pointed out that 68 percent of the respondents regard BOM's one year Olympic activity to be worthwhile and valuable.

78 per cent of the Hungarians shares BOM's view that the freedom statue (Szabadság-szobor) is an inseparable symbol of Budapest, therefore it could be worthy emblem of the future Olympic Games, itself. This is a considerable step forward compared to the 47 per cent support rate reported in May, last year.

The recent poll also supports that the Olympic Games in Hungary would serve long-term social and economic objectives not unknown for the majority of Hungarians at present, who would like to see those government and municipal measures to happen that would pave the way for Budapest in 2011 to apply for hosting the 2020 Olympic Games.

well, it is only 33,000 but the olympiakos stadium was built very very very fast/
Sounds strange for a Greek stadium. I saw this stadium along with a few other when I was in Athens and have to say I did not notice until looking closely at a photo from the Acropolis how built up the surrounding area it is.

http://www.stadionbesuch.de/Willkommen.htm if you go to "nutzlose statistik" you can see all the visited stadiums.

free state stadium in bloemfontein took 11 months

The shorted is the stadium in Montevideo, Uruguay where they staged the 1930 World Cup.

They knocked up a 100,000 stadium in 10 months and it is still standing and operating today.

Swiss grounds and some international stadia by region and leagues:

http://www.swissgrounds.ch/

Detailed, with a lot of photos about Swiss grounds - including a lot of small ones:

http://www.stades.ch/

The shorted is the stadium in Montevideo, Uruguay where they staged the 1930 World Cup.

They knocked up a 100,000 stadium in 10 months and it is still standing and operating today.

wow...wonder how many people were working on this?

The working in the Estádio da Luz began at... hum... October 1, 2001. They first had to demolish some... stuff. Well, the stadium was opened on the... 25th of October, 2003. So less then 24 months I guess. The stadium capacity is around 66.000.

Budapest succeeded in bidding for the 1920 Olymics, but because Hungary was on the losing side in WW1, the games were hosted in Antwerp instead.

So if we win the 2020 bid, that would be exactly 100 years from the 1920 bid we won and then lost.

-Ataman

Budapest succeeded in bidding for the 1920 Olymics, but because Hungary was on the losing side in WW1, the games were hosted in Antwerp instead.

So if we win the 2020 bid, that would be exactly 100 years from the 1920 bid we won and then lost.

-Ataman

The committee must have had a hard time deciding if the olympics could go to an axis country:) BTW,the monarchy or Hungary submitted the bid?

Hungary, I believe. If it were the monarchy, then Vienna would have been the host city rather than Budapest.

-Ataman

The 35,000 capacity Riverside stadium in Middlesbrough took 32 weeks (8 months) to build.

Hungary, I believe. If it were the monarchy, then Vienna would have been the host city rather than Budapest.

-Ataman

Then we were very optimistic regarding the war,if we submitted such bid.

The bid was probabbly submitted in 1911, 3 years before the war.

-Ataman

The bid was probabbly submitted in 1911, 3 years before the war.

-Ataman

Yes,but wars dont happen from day to day...If it was submitted before the war,as you said,it would have been held in Vienna. We became independent after the war,so in that state,the leaders were very optimistic.

This weekend, in Aarau, Switzerland, the federal "Schwing- und Älplerfest" is taking place. Schwingen is a traditional Swiss style of Wrestling. For this event the assumably biggest temporary stadium of the world has been built within 4 months. Capacity: 48'700. And it's sold out.

The Swiss company which built it (Nüssli AG), is market leader in this area - has been also responsible for the Beach-Volleyball stadium at Bondi Beach during Sidney Olympics 2000 and many other mass events around the world (sport events, Pope visits, etc.).

Most spectators left their home towns with special trains yesterday around 4 am and arrived at the stadium between 6 and 8 am. Nüssli AG has gathered 2'500 tons of material to build the stadium shipped from various locations in the world (like Cricket World Cup Barbados or Show Jumping European Championship in Germany) to Aarau.

Other sports featured at the event are Steinstossen (stone throwing) and Hornussen (a traditional form of Baseball). Today at 16:45 CET the Wrestling Final will take place, and soon after that the stadium will be already gone again.

Here some impressions:

http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sportdiashow/volle_rnge_szq_w_h347_m.jpg

http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sporteventsschwingenartikel/esaf_grab_abderhalden_szq_w480_h_m.jpg

http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sportdiashow/schwingen_arena_szq_w_h347_m.jpg

http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sportdiashow/schwingen_cropt_szq_w_h347_m.jpg

Video (Impressions):
http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?videourl=http%3A%2F%2Freal.xobix.ch%2Framgen%2Fsfdrs%2Fvod%2Fspak%2F2007%2F08%2Fspak_20070825.rm%3Fstart%3D0%3A17%3A32.295%26amp%3Bend%3D0%3A19%3A23.611

edit: Impressions 2nd day with bird view of stadium:
http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?videourl=http%3A%2F%2Freal.xobix.ch%2Framgen%2Fsfdrs%2Fvod%2Fsportpano%2F2007%2F08%2Fsportpano_20070826.rm%3Fstart%3D1%3A00%3A10.87%26amp%3Bend%3D1%3A02%3A35.848

Video (Sport):
http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?videourl=http%3A%2F%2Freal.xobix.ch%2Framgen%2Fsfdrs%2Fvod%2Fspak%2F2007%2F08%2Fspak_20070825.rm%3Fstart%3D0%3A12%3A34.333%26amp%3Bend%3D0%3A17%3A32.295

edit: 2nd day with comments:
http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?videourl=http%3A%2F%2Freal.xobix.ch%2Framgen%2Fsfdrs%2Fvod%2Fsportpano%2F2007%2F08%2Fsportpano_20070826.rm%3Fstart%3D0%3A01%3A35.796%26amp%3Bend%3D0%3A07%3A05.107

well Nussli are the masters of temporary sports structures especially seating

hey do racing/automotive venues count....Bristol...150,000k...and yes its city name is Bristol, TN - USA
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4168/08of5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

many other stadiums in the world have well over 75k

This weekend, in Aarau, Switzerland, the federal "Schwing- und Älplerfest" is taking place. Schwingen is a traditional Swiss style of Wrestling. For this event the assumably biggest temporary stadium of the world has been built within 4 months. Capacity: 48'700. And it's sold out.

The Swiss company which built it (Nüssli AG), is market leader in this area - has been also responsible for the Beach-Volleyball stadium at Bondi Beach during Sidney Olympics 2000 and many other mass events around the world (sport events, Pope visits, etc.).

Most spectators left their home towns with special trains yesterday around 4 am and arrived at the stadium between 6 and 8 am. Nüssli AG has gathered 2'500 tons of material to build the stadium shipped from various locations in the world (like Cricket World Cup Barbados or Show Jumping European Championship in Germany) to Aarau.

Other sports featured at the event are Steinstossen (stone throwing) and Hornussen (a traditional form of Baseball). Today at 16:45 CET the Wrestling Final will take place, and soon after that the stadium will be already gone again.

Here some impressions:

http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sportdiashow/volle_rnge_szq_w_h347_m.jpg

http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sportdiashow/schwingen_arena_szq_w_h347_m.jpg



Fantastic and bizarre at the same time. I think it's brilliant when something you've never heard of, and never would have thought about, turns out to be so big.

Not sure if it was in Switzerland, but on another thread there was also a fantastic shot of a football stadium being used for ice hockey - I love stuff like that!

Stanford Stadium (both the original, and the reconstruction) might hold or be very close to the record.

In 1921, when it was originally built, it took 4 months to construct a 66,000 seat stadium. It was completely demolished in Nov 2005, and rebuilt onsite before the start of the next football season in Aug of 2006. That was appx 10 months to demolish an 85k stadium and build a 50k stadium.

Just to kill another useless thread and put in one which is a bit more of a challange...
Also this thread remains useless ofcourse.
I´ll kick of!

Sevilla
Glasgow
London

Not that many

New York if you include the suburbs (East Rutherford, NJ)

You can't include East Rutherford for New York :) some countries are smaller in size than the distance between NY and East Rutherford

Cali Colombia has 2 and a 30,000 one.

Seoul.
Olympic Game 1988
World Cup 2002

Seoul has 5 stadiums over 50,000

Olympic Stadium
Seoul Sangam World Cup Stadium
Incheon Moonhak Stadium
Suwon World Cup Stadium
Goyang Stadium

^^ wow.

Los Angeles:
Rose Bowl (92.542)
LA Coliseum (92.000)
Dodger Stadium (56.000)

Tokyo:

Olympic - 57k
Dome - 55k
Ajinamoto - 50k
(also has the 223k Racecourse)

Houston:
Astrodome (62.439)
Reliant Stadium (71,500)
Rice Stadium (can hold 70,000)

Atlanta:
Georgia Dome (71,149)
Bobby Dodd Stadium (55,000)
Turner Field (50,091)

Seoul has 5 stadiums over 50,000

Olympic Stadium
Seoul Sangam World Cup Stadium
Incheon Moonhak Stadium
Suwon World Cup Stadium
Goyang Stadium

That's Seoul and some surrounding towns and cities right?

Atlanta
Georgia Dome - 71,228 - Downtown, Atlanta
Bobby Dodd Stadium - 55,000 - Downtown/Midtown, Atlanta
Turner Field - 50,091 - Summerhill, Atlanta

Glasgow
Celtic Park - 60,832 - Parkhead, Glasgow
Hampden Park - 52,103 - Mount Florida, Glasgow
Ibrox Stadium - 51,082 - Ibrox, Glasgow

London
Wembley Stadium - 90,000 - Wembley, London
Twickenham Stadium - 82,000 - Twickenham, London
Emirates Stadium - 60,432 - Holloway, London

Los Angeles
Rose Bowl - 92,542 - Madison Heights, Pasadena
LA Coliseum - 92,000 - University Park, Los Angeles
Dodger Stadium - 56,000 - Chávez Ravine, Los Angeles

Tokyo
National Olympic Stadium - 57,363 - Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo
Tokyo Dome - 55,000 - Bunkyo, Tokyo
Ajinomoto Stadium - 50,000 - Chofu-shi, Tokyo

London
Wembley Stadium - 90,000 - Wembley, London
Twickenham Stadium - 82,000 - Twickenham, London
Emirates Stadium - 60,432 - Holloway, London

It's very likely Spurs, West Ham and Chelsea will be looking at 50,000+ stadiums within the next decade. So London may have 6 in a few years.

Stanford Stadium (both the original, and the reconstruction) might hold or be very close to the record.

In 1921, when it was originally built, it took 4 months to construct a 66,000 seat stadium. It was completely demolished in Nov 2005, and rebuilt onsite before the start of the next football season in Aug of 2006. That was appx 10 months to demolish an 85k stadium and build a 50k stadium.

Impressive!

Fantastic and bizarre at the same time. I think it's brilliant when something you've never heard of, and never would have thought about, turns out to be so big.

Not sure if it was in Switzerland, but on another thread there was also a fantastic shot of a football stadium being used for ice hockey - I love stuff like that!


Yes, that was in Bern last January I think. The stadium was sold out with 30'000 people.

Not sure if it was in Switzerland, but on another thread there was also a fantastic shot of a football stadium being used for ice hockey - I love stuff like that!

I guess, you mean this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=14345668#post14345668

London
Wembley Stadium - 90,000 - Wembley, London
Twickenham Stadium - 82,000 - Twickenham, London
Emirates Stadium - 60,432 - Holloway, London

It's very likely Spurs, West Ham and Chelsea will be looking at 50,000+ stadiums within the next decade. So London may have 6 in a few years.

Don't forget the Olympic stadium as well.

Just to kill another useless thread and put in one which is a bit more of a challange...
Also this thread remains useless ofcourse.
I´ll kick of!

Sevilla
Glasgow
London

Technically are all located within London city limits? I thought the city of London from a technical stand point included only the very center of the metro within city limits.

If so then either cities like New York should be included or London excluded from the list.

As for Los Angeles, The Rose Bowl is in Pasadena, not Los Angeles.

Buenos Aires
River Plate Stadium - 67000
Boca Juniors "La Bombonera" Stadium - 57000
Velez Sarsfield "Jose Amalfitani" Stadium - 56000
San Lorenzo "Pedro Bidegain" Stadium - 52000
Racing Club "El Cilindro" Stadium - 50000
Independiente "Libertadores de America" Stadium (Finished in 2008) - 54000

That's Seoul and some surrounding towns and cities right?


yepp

That means seoul metro.
but seoul metro is the similar size of Greater London.
seoul city is 605㎢, seoul metro is 1600㎢

City proper has 2 stadiums (Olympic Stadiium, Sangam worldcup stadium)





http://kr.img.blog.yahoo.com/ybi/1/a7/9c/sndgreat/folder/2090933/img_2090933_1187_0?1181536853.jpg

Istanbul
Atatürk Olimpiyat 80.000
New Galatasaray stadium 52.500 (2010 :D )
Sükrü Saracoglu 52.500

Maybe Besiktas will change his plans and will also built a +50.000 stadium

Technically are all located within London city limits? I thought the city of London from a technical stand point included only the very center of the metro within city limits.

If so then either cities like New York should be included or London excluded from the list.

As for Los Angeles, The Rose Bowl is in Pasadena, not Los Angeles.

You're a little bit confused, the city of London is a borough in London also known as central London and is only the size of a square mile or so. This is where the CBD is(a neighbouring borough is called 'City of Westminster' but this is not technically a city either). But all stadiums such as Wembley, Twickenham and Emirates are all in London and its boundaries otherwise known as Greater London(this is the actual 'City' boundaries).

You have to be careful because when people in London say the city they only mean that very small(smallest) area of central London and its not being referred to a city as a whole. Im not too fond of the name City of London because it confuses foreigners(and even Brits).


The map below shows the whole of London and its Boroughs and right in the middle is the borough of The 'City' of London:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3465/boroughmap2cp0.gif

Seoul has 5 stadiums over 50,000

Olympic Stadium
Seoul Sangam World Cup Stadium
Incheon Moonhak Stadium
Suwon World Cup Stadium
Goyang Stadium

then.. what about a solo bid for the Fifa WC? :D

Europeans and Africans,South Americans wont agree ^^

they wont make it because of the time difference not many will vote

http://www.paul-andreu.com/images_coul/ll_b.jpg


http://i15.tinypic.com/673ao3o.jpg

more staduims in morocco


those are in construction

at 2008 it will be finished


Marrakech 61.000
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/marrakesh_stade.jpg


Tanger 69.000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/tanger_stade.jpg


agadir 40.00
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/agadir_stadium.jpg

How many cities have 3 football stadiums over 50000? When I say football I mean proper football...not American rugby.

How many cities have 3 football stadiums over 50000? When I say football I mean proper football...not American rugby.

Thread topic says nothing about soccer. It only asks for three stadiums.

Its AlL gUUd, thanks for clarifying that a bit.

Thread topic says nothing about soccer. It only asks for three stadiums.


Yes....I know....that's why I asked a new similar question! Are you not allowed to ask questions any more?

and it's called football.

You can't include East Rutherford for New York :) some countries are smaller in size than the distance between NY and East Rutherford

Even San Marino is bigger across than the distance between Manhattan and E. Rutherford. In fact, Shea Stadium is further from central Manhattan than the Meadowlands. I think the structure of American cities and its commuting culture requires suburbs be included.

south africans stadiuns are better ... now i understood how south africans received the WC :D

nice stadia for a country of it's size.

Europeans and Africans,South Americans wont agree ^^

they wont make it because of the time difference not many will vote

That and the fact that no city may have more than 2 stadiums.

Does give rise to another suggestion for a topic though...

Any cities have 8 venues of 40k capacity of greater, suitable for football, which could thus host a world cup (if FIFA 'forgot' the above rule)

I can't think of any, even London only gets:

Wembley
Twickers
Emirates
Stamford Bridge

planned redevelopments/moves for:
West Ham
Charlton
Spurs

plus (if the timing was right, before the demolished the temp seating):
Olympic Stadium

I guess, you mean this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=14345668#post14345668

You guess correctly. Love it.

There's another on there -

"Possible future Stadium: Riddes
- The stadium would not be designed uniformly, but rather feature one big stand holding 10’000 spectators in order to be able to use these seats also for concerts opposite the stage"

I'm involved with a club at the moment and I'm trying very hard to get them to do something similar. It's a hard sell though! I've suggested 7500 seats set back behind one of the goals (with retractable rows at the front) so that a stage could be constructed between the end of the pitch and the front of the seats, thus protecting the pitch and at the same time creating a 7000 seat concert venue.

New Rugby Stadium in Montpellier...12 montns

Yes....I know....that's why I asked a new similar question! Are you not allowed to ask questions any more?

and it's called football.

You didn´t ask a question, you made a note...
Nothing about footballstadiums, because then the list would be very very short...

The only football stadium is the one in Marakech...
Marroko mop is quiete a big footballnation. Does anyone have photos of clubstadiums that allready are finished?

Cape Town(might come close but only in 2009)

2007:
Newlands 50,000
Athlone 30,000

2009:
Newlands 50,000 (will prob be knocked down)
Athlone 45,000
Green Point 68,000

The only football stadium is the one in Marakech...

I always wondered how a stadium with relatively small stands like that could have a capacity of over 60,000. It turns out the grass surface is big enough to fit two football pitches in there. The fans will be miles from the field, not much of a real football stadium after all.

How many cities have 3 football stadiums over 50000? When I say football I mean proper football...not American rugby.

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i second that :lol:

That and the fact that no city may have more than 2 stadiums.

Does give rise to another suggestion for a topic though...

Any cities have 8 venues of 40k capacity of greater, suitable for football, which could thus host a world cup (if FIFA 'forgot' the above rule)

I can't think of any, even London only gets:

Wembley
Twickers
Emirates
Stamford Bridge

planned redevelopments/moves for:
West Ham
Charlton
Spurs

plus (if the timing was right, before the demolished the temp seating):
Olympic Stadium

Maybe a European Championships? :D im sure London is the only city in Europe that can be close to capable.

just a thought:)

Atlanta U.S.A

Georgia Dome 71,149

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/georgia/atlanta_dome1.jpg

Bobby Dodd at Grant Field 55,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/georgia/atlanta_dodd1.jpg

Turner Field 50,091

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/georgia/atlanta_turner2.jpg


LA U.S.A

Rose bowl 92,542

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/california/los_angeles_rose_bowl1.jpg

Memorial Coliseum 92,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/california/los_angeles_memorial1.jpg

Dodgers Stadium 56,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/california/los_angeles_dodger2.jpg


Buenos Aires, Argentina

Antonio Vespucio Liberti 66,449

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/south_america/argentina/buenos_aires_liberti1.jpg

Alberto J. Armando 57,446

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/south_america/argentina/buenos_aires_bombonera1.jpg

Estadio José Amalfitani 50,000

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/south_america/argentina/buenos_aires_amalfitani1.jpg

Glasgow must be the only city with three 50,000+ seater football stadiums!!

Seoul has 5 stadiums over 50,000

Olympic Stadium
Seoul Sangam World Cup Stadium
Incheon Moonhak Stadium
Suwon World Cup Stadium
Goyang Stadium

how far is Incheon away from Seoul then? is it inside Seouls aglomeration?

Phoenix, Arizona

ASU Stadium 74,000
Cardinal Stadium 64,000
Chase field Stadium 49,644

Buenos Aires
River Plate Stadium - 67000
Boca Juniors "La Bombonera" Stadium - 57000
Velez Sarsfield "Jose Amalfitani" Stadium - 56000
San Lorenzo "Pedro Bidegain" Stadium - 52000
Racing Club "El Cilindro" Stadium - 50000
Independiente "Libertadores de America" Stadium (Finished in 2008) - 54000

wow. I think that money could go else where. Giving a little too much importance to soccer there.

Glasgow must be the only city with three 50,000+ seater football stadiums!!

You are probably right. Buenos Aires has six 50,000+ seater football stadiums...

yes we give too much importance to soccer here!!!, but, only the river plate, boca and velez sarsfield stadiums are in the buenos aires city, the racing club and independiente stadium are in the grater buenos aires.

The River plate stadium was made for 76.609, but the lastest rebuild take to 66.000, it was builded in 1936..

http://www.solesdigital.com.ar/Imagenes2005/estadios_monumental_aerea.jpg

wow. I think that money could go else where. Giving a little too much importance to soccer there.

I don't think that's possible.

Detroit Metro:

Pontiac Silverdome-83,000
Ford Field-66,000
Tiger's Stadium-53,000
Michigan Stadium-107,501
Comerica Park-41,000

Dallas-Ft. Worth:

Cotton Bowl-68,252
Texas Stadium-65,595
Amon Carter Stadium (TCU)-46,008
Rangers Ballpark-49,178
future Cowboys Stadium-~80,000
Texas Motor Speedway-212,585 (with infield capacity)

New york, LA.... ummm tons of american cities...

New york, LA.... ummm tons of american cities...

Not as many as you think. Most baseball stadiums are less than 50'000 and most cities have one pro and one or so college football stadiums.

Let me put in some pictures of the beautifull stadiums in Sevilla

http://i8.tinypic.com/4ul3waw.jpg

http://i1.tinypic.com/61xohsi.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/5yueqfo.jpg

how far is Incheon away from Seoul then? is it inside Seouls aglomeration?

Yes, the seoul subway goes there. Incheon downtown is about 20 km away from seoul city.

Phoenix, Arizona

ASU Stadium 74,000
Cardinal Stadium 64,000
Chase field Stadium 49,644

First two of those are not in Phoenix, third is not 50,000.

how far is Incheon away from Seoul then? is it inside Seouls aglomeration?

Incheon is a completely different city. With almost million inhabitants.

You didn´t ask a question, you made a note...
Nothing about footballstadiums, because then the list would be very very short...

maybe i'm a bit daft...but the last time I checked...the following statement would be classed as a question by any sane person - "How many cities have 3 football stadiums over 50000?"

You are probably right. Buenos Aires has six 50,000+ seater football stadiums...

I'm not sure that's true....South Americans are very excitable and tend to exaggerate a lot. I remember another South American claiming Buenos Aires had 6 football stadiums over 50000, and after a short investigation, it turned out it had 2 (Avellaneda is not Buenos Aires)-

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Dh34anddR3cJ:www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/ARG.html+atgentina+football+stadiums&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk

First two of those are not in Phoenix, third is not 50,000.

It is Phoenix metro.

do you think Dallas, Detroit and the majority of the cities listed here has those stadium only in within the city limits?

I doubt that

wow. I think that money could go else where. Giving a little too much importance to soccer there.

I don't think that's possible.
a 3rd world country with all those soccer stadiums??? I can asure you they could've put that money to good use.

It is Phoenix metro.

do you think Dallas, Detroit and the majority of the cities listed here has those stadium only in within the city limits?

I doubt that

And this is where this thread falls down. The defenition of what is 'within' a city may seem a bit pedantic, but it is especially valid given the extent to which large stadia are built outside of cities or (more commonly in the US) between cities. Texas Stadium may be home to the Dallas Cowboys, but it is I believe deliberately located between Dallas and Fort Worth (historically to maximise its catchment). The proximity of the two extends the terminology from merely 'Dallas' to 'Dallas/Fort Worth' or 'DFW'. See the nearby airport. Suddenly, it is open to interpretation whether Texas Stadium is actually 'in' Dallas or not.

Similarly, any analysis of New York City would probably invoke the inclusion of Giants Stadium, understandably enough to most. You may say that NYC is quite easily defined because of the '5 boroughs'. Even then it is debatable because until 1898, Brooklyn was a city in its own right (and I'm sure even today it could claim to be America's 4th largest 'city'. Anyway, I digress...

Giants Stadium in East Rutherford is not only not within NYC's 5 boroughs, but as ER is in New Jersey, it is not even within New York State. To most, this is a rather tiresome technicality, but someone's going to base an argument around the fact.

With College grounds, very few are within accepted cities (like UT at Austin, for example), mostly as campuses are almost cities on their own right, like 'State College, PA'.

Therefore, my off-the-cuff list is as follows:

London, UK

Wembley Stadium 90,000
Twickenham 82,000
Emirates Stadium 60,000

Glasgow, UK

Celtic Park 60,506
Ibrox Park 51,082
Hampden Park 50,670

Seville, Spain

Estadio La Cartuja 72,000
Manuel Ruiz de Lopera 55,000
Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán 55,000

Also, my definition of 'stadium' excludes race tracks, or I'd include Barcelona.

Incheon is a completely different city. With almost million inhabitants.

There's no urbanization division between seoul and incheon. They are part of the same agglomeration. It is not a "completely different" city, just a different area of urban seoul with the name of incheon city. ;)

Prince is correct, you can walk from Seoul to Incheon and never leave a street that is as busy as any street in London, Paris or Manhattan.

Trust me, I've done just that.

Seoul's main airport is in Incheon.....actually on a reclaimed island past Incheon.

maybe i'm a bit daft...but the last time I checked...the following statement would be classed as a question by any sane person - "How many cities have 3 football stadiums over 50000?"

Yes you are and no, only by a shortsighted/minded it would.

http://i16.tinypic.com/5yueqfo.jpg

Ah! The home of one of the biggest robberies in world football (UEFA Cup Final 2003)!

Still a beautiful stadium, though.

i do not understand why some sites wrote 72,000 for the capacity of the Sevlla olympic stadium
its "only" 57.000

It´s 72 000!:bash:

It´s 72 000!:bash:

Ok, your thread so what defines a city, metro or city population? Big difference in defining whether or not a city has 3+ 50'000 seaters.

But Sánchez Pizjuán is definitely less than 50'000 at the moment, 45'500 if I remember correctly.

It´s 72 000!:bash:

according to fusballtempel, wiki and UEFA its only 57.000 :D

57k or 72k, it still puts Seville on the list.

57k or 72k, it still puts Seville on the list.

I'm sure Seville only has 2 stadiums over 50000. Sevilla FC's stadium is 45500.
The 2 over 50000 are Real Betis's stadium and the Olympic stadium.

Istanbul will have 3 when Galatasaray finish their new ground in 2009.

I highly doubt Hawaii will host the 2009 WBC since Aloha stadium has been permanently loked into its football configuration.

according to fusballtempel, wiki and UEFA its only 57.000 :D

Should be 72 k!!!! (don´t no why, but hey!!!)

But it isn't :D

A difference of 15,000 is big. Might the 72,000 capacity include temporary stands? Or did Seville's bid for the Olympics included an upgrade of La Cartuja with an extra 15,000 seats?

then.. what about a solo bid for the Fifa WC? :D

Buenos Aires has 6 stadiums for over 50k people.


How many cities have 3 football stadiums over 50000? When I say football I mean proper football...not American rugby.

Buenos Aires has 6 of them.

a 3rd world country with all those soccer stadiums??? I can asure you they could've put that money to good use.

thats just ridiculous. Its private money from clubs.

Buenos Aires has 6 stadiums for over 50k people.

6 seating only stadiums?
Or are there still terraces in the Primera Division in Argentina?

I'm not sure that's true....South Americans are very excitable and tend to exaggerate a lot. I remember another South American claiming Buenos Aires had 6 football stadiums over 50000, and after a short investigation, it turned out it had 2 (Avellaneda is not Buenos Aires)-

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Dh34anddR3cJ:www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/ARG.html+atgentina+football+stadiums&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk



stupid prejudice from your part. South Americans here are not more excitable and exagerated than any other people.


Just to start, people from many other countries are giving estimates of their stadiums sizes. So saying only south americans do that is BULLSHIT

Also, crowd capacity figures may vary along the years. Maybe Buenos Aires HAD 6 stadiums over 50k but crowd capacity was reduced for safety reasons according to more modern standarts.

To finish, many other people here, including US and South Koreans, are counting metro cities.


So Allavaneda stadium must be counted too.

6 seating only stadiums?
Or are there still terraces in the Primera Division in Argentina?

whats the problem with terraces? Seating sux. Well, of course Europe needs seater only stadiums, since 90% of the european population is over 90 years old. :lol:

Our current stadium reached also 55.000 without seats ;)
24 714 seats - without +50.000 :D

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/TUR/Ali_Sami_Yen.html
So, stadiums without seats are cheaters :D

whats the problem with terraces? Seating sux. Well, of course Europe needs seater only stadiums, since 90% of the european population is over 90 years old. :lol:

I personally like terraces in stadium too and hate it that there are none in the top divisions in Spain, England, France and Italy.
But to compare the size of stadiums you need to have the same conditions.

I personally like terraces in stadium too and hate it that there are none in the top divisions in Spain, England, France and Italy.
But to compare the size of stadiums you need to have the same conditions.

how about giving the same economic conditions to all countries on the globe and just then comparing the stadiums? :|

stupid prejudice from your part. South Americans here are not more excitable and exagerated than any other people.


Just to start, people from many other countries are giving estimates of their stadiums sizes. So saying only south americans do that is BULLSHIT

Also, crowd capacity figures may vary along the years. Maybe Buenos Aires HAD 6 stadiums over 50k but crowd capacity was reduced for safety reasons according to more modern standarts.

To finish, many other people here, including US and South Koreans, are counting metro cities.


So Allavaneda stadium must be counted too.

It's not prejuduce...we all know South Americans get all hot and bothered very easily. Passionate Latin types and all that.

Seated or unseated, Buenos Aires does NOT have 6 stadiums with a capacity over 50000, not even close...it has 2....and some would argue they are not really over 50000 as if they were all seated they would be well under 50000 (personally I love terraces). Avellaneda is not Buenos Aires......it's like me including Motherwell or Hamilton when talking about stadiums in Glasgow??? Even if Avellaneda was in Buenos Aires...that would be 3 not 6. Check the link -

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Dh34anddR3cJ:www.fussballtempel.net/conmebol/ARG.html+atgentina+football+stadiums&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk

As for Metro's etc.....just include bloody stadiums within city limits...not ones 25km's away from a city centre...as that's just stupid. All these stadiums are in Glasgow and all are within a few miles of each other. If a stadium is 25km from a city centre...it isn't in that city! For example, Glasgow has 3 stadiums over 50000, and they are in Glasgow...not Motherwell, Paisley or Falkirk...but in the City Of Glasgow -

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6996/gl8zp.jpg

Mince the distance from city center is not the issue. Being 1 km or 25 km doesn't matter. The stadium serves the local city population and is in the boundary, whether city metro or borough boundary.

Everyone here remembers the threads of old Glorifying Glasgow and it's three stadiums. Bubomb LIVES!

Mince the distance from city center is not the issue. Being 1 km or 25 km doesn't matter. The stadium serves the local city population and is in the boundary, whether city metro or borough boundary.

Everyone here remembers the threads of old Glorifying Glasgow and it's three stadiums. Bubomb LIVES!


No...I disagree...I don't buy the yankee model of building stadiums 3000 miles from the city centre. For me a stadium in a city has to be in the city proper...that's one of the attractions in stadiums...you can go to real pubs in the city...enjoy the atmosphere and history of your surroundings etc....not drive for miles to some fake theme park!

For example, that new stadium outside Istanbul is gash...it has no history or culture as it is in the middle of nowhere and takes about 1.5 hours to get to from the city centre.

For me...I only include stadiums within city boundaries, that's my rules, you will have to stick to them...and who the hell is Bubomb?

It's not prejuduce...we all know South Americans get all hot and bothered very easily. Passionate Latin types and all that.



thats stupid prejudice. From what we see in this forum, latins are as passionate and get hot and bothered as easily as europeans and americans and chinese.

by the way... look at where those Avellaneda Stadiums are located. Buenos Aires is HUGE and incredibly dense. The urbanity between Bombonera Stadium and the Independiente Stadium at Avellaneda is 5 times denser than that Glasgow picture you posted above!!

Btw, as you can see, in Avellaneda, the two stadiums are side by side. And its VERY CLOSE to Buenos Aires downtown.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9977/avellanedauw1.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2645/avellaneda2qb9.jpg

No...I disagree...I don't buy the yankee model of building stadiums 3000 miles from the city centre. For me a stadium in a city has to be in the city proper...that's one of the attractions in stadiums...you can go to real pubs in the city...enjoy the atmosphere and history of your surroundings etc....not drive for miles to some fake theme park!

For example, that new stadium outside Istanbul is gash...it has no history or culture as it is in the middle of nowhere and takes about 1.5 hours to get to from the city centre.

For me...I only include stadiums within city boundaries, that's my rules, you will have to stick to them...?

jajaja Since when its your thread? jajaja You can't put ANY rules here. To begin with,If the stadium serves the CITY it BELONGS TO THE CITY.. WE DONT CARE IF YOU DONT BUY THAT YANKEE MODEL.. IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.. so Stop bothering other people with your mental issues. We are talking about 50,000 + stadiums in cities, not neighborhoods.

thats stupid prejudice.

Well, duh. Bubomb is stupid and prejudiced.

Sorry mince but this thread was started by skaP187, so until he rules his rules apply. Bubomb go home!

As for 3000 miles little less than that bub, by maybe 2990 miles!

Personally any stadium 20 miles from the historical city center is included inside the city. Because as all North Americans know, if it ain't worth driving 20 miles for it ain't worth going too!

Hasn't been locked yet, but should be after the latest renos!

Sorry mince but this thread was started by skaP187, so until he rules his rules apply. Bubomb go home!

As for 3000 miles little less than that bub, by maybe 2990 miles!

Personally any stadium 20 miles from the historical city center is included inside the city. Because as all North Americans know, if it ain't worth driving 20 miles for it ain't worth going too!

Nope...sorry...this is Europe...our rules are the only rules. It will be a cold day in hell when I let someone outside of Europe decide what's right and what's wrong!

However, I did check Google Earth and it does seem like Buenos Aires does have 3 stadiums over 50000....it doesn't have 6 though seeing as only 3 stadiums in Buenos Aires are over 50000.

Some would say Buenos Aires shouldn't be on the list as if they were all seater then only 1 would be over 50000, but I would say stadiums with standing do count.

Yep a very cold day in hell until anyone here follows your rules to bud.

FYI the World stopped revolving around Europe a few hundred years ago. Currently North Americas turn to be the center of the Universe soon to be replaced by Asia, China!

3 more pictures from yesterday. The fascade is more or less finished.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t294/dewrob/IMG_6671.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t294/dewrob/IMG_6672.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t294/dewrob/IMG_6675.jpg

it's nice,good structure...but i'd prefer another color instead of yellow...and what about the surrounding of the arena? g.j

nice, but 12,000 capacity doesn't make it big.

Very nice arena

To many hater.
Good for Skopje

Realy nice arena and 12,000 is perfect for Skopje.

Looks great, this is a big project for a country like Macedonia and 12,000 capacity looks big enough.

What's the major event they're planning to hold in there?

Looks great, this is a big project for a country like Macedonia and 12,000 capacity looks big enough.

What's the major event they're planning to hold in there?

Well Skopje needed a new arena real bad anyways, but the first event that's gonna be held there is European handball championship (Female) AFAIK.

@Southern European

the surrondings will come out nice, at the moment there is a 5 star hotel next to it, an indoor swimming pool and dozen of tennis courts on one side and empty land on the other. Soon a large shopping mall should pop up right next to it as well. It's an attractive location so it's only natural that the surrondings will probably improve rapidly.

Here is a GE shot I made for the Skopje construction thread

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t294/dewrob/salalokacija.jpg

1. Sports Arena Boris Trajkovski
2. Hotel Aleksandar Palace
3. Tenis Club
4. Karpos Indoor Swimming pool
5. Bonsai garden
6. Future Mercator Centar (shopping mall)

The San Francisco area has:

Memorial Stadium (UC Berkeley) 73 347
Monster Park (49ers) 69 734
McAfee Coliseum (Oakland Raiders) 63 026
Stanford Stanford Stadium 50 000 after the rebuild

Tokyo
Olympic Stadium 57 363
Tokyo Dome 55 000
Ajinamoto Stadium 50 000

Buenos Aires
River Plate Stadium - 67000
Boca Juniors "La Bombonera" Stadium - 57000
Velez Sarsfield "Jose Amalfitani" Stadium - 56000
San Lorenzo "Pedro Bidegain" Stadium - 52000
Racing Club "El Cilindro" Stadium - 50000
Independiente "Libertadores de America" Stadium (Finished in 2008) - 54000

Thats way too many. That's why football dominates the culture of Argentina and Brazil. I wonder what Sao Paulo got?

Sorry mince but this thread was started by skaP187, so until he rules his rules apply. Bubomb go home!

As for 3000 miles little less than that bub, by maybe 2990 miles!

Personally any stadium 20 miles from the historical city center is included inside the city. Because as all North Americans know, if it ain't worth driving 20 miles for it ain't worth going too!

Eh yeah...

Someone mentioned if it serves the city, I like that!

Nope...sorry...this is Europe...our rules are the only rules. It will be a cold day in hell when I let someone outside of Europe decide what's right and what's wrong!

However, I did check Google Earth and it does seem like Buenos Aires does have 3 stadiums over 50000....it doesn't have 6 though seeing as only 3 stadiums in Buenos Aires are over 50000.

Some would say Buenos Aires shouldn't be on the list as if they were all seater then only 1 would be over 50000, but I would say stadiums with standing do count.

Who cares about this guy??? I dont care if HE doesnt agree about the rest of the opinions written here in the thread. If he doesnt care and he doesnt respect the thread and people in it, why should we have respect for him??

BUENOS AIRES HAS 6 =50,000+ STADIUMS. PERIOD.

we only have one stadium over 70k
Qualcomm Stadium 71,294

Petco Park 46,000

Lisbon;
Estadio da Luz: 66.000
Estadio de Alvalade: 52.000
Estadio do Restelo: 40.000

a 3rd world country with all those soccer stadiums??? I can asure you they could've put that money to good use.

All depends if the stadiums are owned/paid for by the clubs or with public money. How often they get used, and how much the facilities give to the local people. You'd probably have a lot of complaints from the locals if you said, we're going to take away your stadium and give you a nice new hospital.

South American is not that poor.

^^Thanks. No doubt the area will become Skopje's sports, entertainment and shopping hub.

It's big, but I don't like the design of the arena!

Due to the popularity of collegiate athletics in the USA there are a number of cities with stadia with a capacity larger than their host cities population.

I'd like to gather a list of such situations. As an example:

Universtiy Park, Pennsylvania: population 38,420 has Beaver Stadium capacity 107,282

In Pullman, Washington (population 24,675) the Cougars play in Martin Stadium with a capacity of 37,600

Both cities are very isolated from larger metropolitan areas. What are some other examples of this? I want exclude suburban stadia such as Giants Stadium which serve a metro. Only ball-sports count. No motor sports or horse-racing please. The former is very common.

Lens, France: population 36,823 has Stade Félix Bollaert, capacity 41,233.

Ralph Wilson Stadium (Buffalo Bills) - 73,967

Orchard Park, NY - 27,637

But is it really valid? Orchard Park is technically a suburb of a city with just under 300,000 in a metro area of 1,200,000. The "Market" size for the Buffalo Bills who draw from all of Western NY, and Southern Ontario is more like 4-6 million or so (depending on how much of Southern Ontario you factor in)

FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein), 5'000 inhabitants, Swiss 2nd Division Football, is playing in a 8'000-stadium.

Vaduz, Rheinpark:

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/LIE/Rheinpark.jpg



HC Ambri-Piotta, Swiss 1st Division Hockey, Ambri is a 200 inhabitants hamlet, is playing in a 7'000-stadium which is often sold out. It's a team from a mountain village in its heroic fight against the big city teams, the frenetic fans (more than 25 official fan-clubs) are coming from Italian-speaking and German-speaking valleys in a radius of ca. 50 km. A well-known aspect in the 90-ies has also been the local Celio-family which had at times 4-5 brothers/cousins playing together at the same time on the top national level (3 of them also in the national team).

Ambri (commune: Quinto), Valascia:

http://www.hcap.ch/repository/Image/Valascia/curva_sud_coreografia.jpg

Chievo is a small district of Verona that has only a few thousand inhabitants, yet they play in the 42,000 capacity Stadio Bentegodi:

http://www.stadiumguide.com/marcantoniobentegodi.htm

Ann Arbor Michigan has a population of 114,000 including the student population of the U of Michigan student population of 37,000, so about 77,000 full time residents. Michigan Stadium seats 107,501 and is always over capacity (although if they keep losing to II-A schools that might change). So depending on how you factor capacity, its somewhat larger, or slightly smaller than Ann Arbor.

SC Heerenveen is planning to raise the capacity from 26.400 to over 30.000 with a population of 28.000. its an IF. but though, right now they are very close to it anyway.

Well Skopje needed a new arena real bad anyways, but the first event that's gonna be held there is European handball championship (Female) AFAIK.


And who will be the most important regular tennants? A basketball team from Skopje? Will there be also business fairs and the like?

And who will be the most important regular tennants? A basketball team from Skopje? Will there be also business fairs and the like?

most likely it will be a basketball team as Macedonia is joining the NLB League (http://www.adriaticbasket.com/) which is something like an ex-yugoslavian basketball league. The lack of a good venue has prevented us to join this league before. Also Kometal GP (http://www.kometalgp.com.mk/index.php?lang=en) which is a female handball team from Skopje will probably play here as they are regular participants in european club campionships and they often rank high so they attract decent amounts of spectators (we generaly suck at sports so female handball being one of the more sucessfull ones probably attracts more atention here than in most other countries).

From non sport activities I presume it will mostely be used for concerts.

Lisbon;
Estadio da Luz: 66.000
Estadio de Alvalade: 52.000
Estadio do Restelo: 40.000

eh ... 50 000+

Chievo is a small district of Verona that has only a few thousand inhabitants, yet they play in the 42,000 capacity Stadio Bentegodi:

http://www.stadiumguide.com/marcantoniobentegodi.htm

But the stadium is located in Verona proper. Apart from that, the topic opener made it very clear not to include suburban stadia. Therefore, the Buffalo Bills one doesn't count either according to my book. Neither would the new Everton stadium in Kirkby (not mentioned here)..

Leksand, pop 5 861 has an arena taking 7650 spectators.

But the stadium is located in Verona proper. Apart from that, the topic opener made it very clear not to include suburban stadia. Therefore, the Buffalo Bills one doesn't count either according to my book. Neither would the new Everton stadium in Kirkby (not mentioned here)..
I would dispute that as a stadium is for purpose rather than place. The exact geography of its location doesn't effect my point that the stadiums purpose for district of Chievo is actaully larger than that area, let alone its footballing spectators.

I would dispute that as a stadium is for purpose rather than place. The exact geography of its location doesn't effect my point that the stadiums purpose for district of Chievo is actaully larger than that area, let alone its footballing spectators.

The topic dealt about stadiums being bigger than the city it is located in. Stadio Bentegodi has a capacity of about 42,000 which is not bigger than Verona's population of about 260,000. The fact that Chievo plays there doesn't all of sudden make it a Chievonese stadium (it is Veronese), just as San Siro didn't become a Turinese stadium when Juventus played a few home games there in the past.

Since Chievo is just a Veronese district and as far as I know not an independent municipality (I might be wrong so please correct me if I am) one could argue that they are just as Veronese as Hellas Verona and we should therefore use the population of Verona proper. After all, there are loads of clubs named after their respective district's that play in stadiums that are bigger than the district's population (for instance FC Schalke 04 and Aston Villa FC).

Tokyo
Olympic Stadium 57 363
Tokyo Dome 55 000
Ajinamoto Stadium 50 000

If you include the metro you could also add:

Yokohama International Stadium 72 370
Saitama Stadium 63 700

I not a fan of including metro areas though, that way we could also include the Rhein-Ruhr area which seems to far fetched to me:

Signal Iduna Park 81 264
Veltins Arena 61 027
LTU Arena 51 500
Rhein Energy Stadion 50 997

If Mönchengladbach is considered part of the Rhein-Ruhr metro Borussia Park could be added as well (capacity of 53 148).

Until last year, Davidson, NC. The town has grown since though. The stadium holds 6,000, town is now 7,000.

Davidson is suburban Charlotte, but it's Davidson's stadium, Davidson College uses it.

A plethora of US College stadiums come to mind:

Tuscaloosa, AL:
City population (2006): 83,052 - Bryant-Denny Stadium capacity: 92,158

Auburn, AL:
City population (2006): 51,906 - Jordan Hare Stadium capacity: 87,451

Starkville, MS:
City population (2000): 21,869 - Davis Wade Stadium capacity: 52,884

Oxford, MS:
City population: 30,756 - Vaught-Hemingway Stadium capacity: 60,580

Fayetteville, AR:
City population (2006): 67,158 - Razorback Stadium capacity: 76,000

Stillwater, OK
City population (2000): 39,065 - Boone Pickens Stadium capacity: 49,000 (and being expanded)

College Station, TX
City population (2006): 82,429 - Kyle Field capacity: 82,600

Manhattan, KS
City population (2005): 49,462 - B. Snyder Family Stadium capacity: 50,300

Iowa City, IA
City population (2006): 62,649 - Kinnick Stadium capacity: 70,397

East Lansing, MI
City population (2000): 46,525 - Spartan Stadium capacity: 72,027

Blacksburg, VA
City population (2000): 39,573 - Lane Stadium capacity: 65,115

Charlottesville, VA
City population (2005): 40,437- Scott Stadium capacity: 61,500

Clemson, SC
City population (2006): 11,939 - Memorial Stadium capacity: 81,473

These are just some that I was arsed to look up the numbers for. Here are some more that I didn't want to find the numbers for ;)

Urbana, Illinois
West Lafayette, Indiana
Bloomington, Indiana
Chapel Hill, NC
College Park, Maryland
Storrs, Connecticut
Morgantown, WV

And then there are a TON of smaller schools in even smaller towns.

SC Heerenveen is planning to raise the capacity from 26.400 to over 30.000 with a population of 28.000. its an IF. but though, right now they are very close to it anyway.

They want to build a new 40.000 stadium in heerenveen if they get the wc2018 to the benelux.

Lisbon;
Estadio da Luz: 66.000
Estadio de Alvalade: 52.000
Estadio do Restelo: 40.000

and the Portuguese National Stadium (also known as Estádio do Jamor) - 50 000

1. State your city/town
2. Image(pref google earth/map) of the location
3. State why

Too small we need something much larger here. 70,000 seats and oval for Aussie Rules.

No.

1. Phoenix, AZ, USA
2.
http://www.fodors.com/miniguides/maps/phoenix_metro.gif
3. Yes, if it comes with a retractable roof. Even if the MLS and it minor league affilates change their schedules to coinside with the rest of the world, there will still be times where it's unbearable to play without a retractable roof.

well im designing a 35k football stadium and im looking for a great location

1. Phoenix, AZ, USA
2.
http://www.fodors.com/miniguides/maps/phoenix_metro.gif
3. Yes, if it comes with a retractable roof. Even if the MLS and it minor league affilates change their schedules to coinside with the rest of the world, there will still be times where it's unbearable to play without a retractable roof.

u got an exact location of the stadium site? try google maps just search for it on google.com..retractable roof could be fitted, would actually suit the design i have come up with

Probably not Minneapolis/St Paul (pop. 3,000,000 in metropolitan area) already has NFL/MLB/NHL/NBA teams, minor league baseball, USL football (soccer) and a full range of D-1 athletics. a new 70,000 seater will be in order for the Vikings (NFL), but the odds of an MLS team getting good attendance is a little sketchy in a smaller market that already has everything else. A new 10,000 seater for the Thunder (USL 1) would be nice though.

Flushing Meadows Park in Queens, NYC needs a 35, 000 seat MLS stadium for the expansion MLS side Queens Park Rangers......
Looks for Willets Point Blvd. that's where the new MLS stadium must be.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.75649,-73.84057&spn=0.012743,0.033302&z=15&om=0

The Oslo club Vålerenga is looking to build a stadium with an ititial capacity of 20-25,000. I imagine a covered pitch would be preferable for multi-use. The probable site is called Valle Hovin where the club has its training facilities.

http://www.gulesider.no/kartshare/kart2/71FD461B8862081F.gifThe subways stations are noted with the blue t.

There's an existing stadium here in Melbourne which is desperately in need of an upgrade. Bob Jane Stadium, once considered the best 'soccer' venue in Victoria, now a run down tip - which is ironic as it has a fantastic location with the city skyline behind it, the Melbourne Grand Prix circuit around it, and the beach not too far away.

They could really use a quality (budget conscious) re-modelling. However, the only way they seem likely to get the budget is if Athletics Victoria relocate there, which will mean the dreaded running track!

Can't figure out how to grab a map from google and paste it in here - but if you GoogleMap or GoogleEarth Melbourne and search for Albert Park or Bob Jane Stadium, it comes up right away.

There's an existing stadium here in Melbourne which is desperately in need of an upgrade. Bob Jane Stadium, once considered the best 'soccer' venue in Victoria, now a run down tip - which is ironic as it has a fantastic location with the city skyline behind it, the Melbourne Grand Prix circuit around it, and the beach not too far away.

They could really use a quality (budget conscious) re-modelling. However, the only way they seem likely to get the budget is if Athletics Victoria relocate there, which will mean the dreaded running track!

Can't figure out how to grab a map from google and paste it in here - but if you GoogleMap or GoogleEarth Melbourne and search for Albert Park or Bob Jane Stadium, it comes up right away.

Once you said "Grand Prix Circuit" I knew right where to look...

http://www.emkayusa.com/misc/melbourne.jpg

Thanks eMKay,
As you can see, the ground is pretty poor. The main stand (lower part on that shot) is in pretty poor state, the rest is all uncovered bench seats and bare concrete steps. The biggest problem for a radical redevelopment of the stadium would be the red roofed pavillion to the left of the main stand, it's heritage listed (as with so many heritage listed buildings though - no one is interested in paying to make is operational, so they are just leaving it to fall down of it's own accord).

The three Atlanta stadiums previously mentioned are all located in the city...actually Downtown Atlanta.

The Georgia Dome...72,000
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/116/302000731_8a779d818a.jpg?v=0

From inside Turner Field...51,000
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/465263849_92588c8b80.jpg?v=0

Bobby Dodd Stadium...55,000
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/235593811_72fe6a208a.jpg?v=0

Atlanta Motor Speedway...125,000
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/119660924_454ca25afb.jpg?v=0
(flickr)

San Diego needs a soccer stadium to attract an MLS team. :D

San Jose may soon be getting one (closer to the 20,000 side) pending a city council meeting in November. They'll decide whether or not to develop the vacant site (formerly occupied by FMC) next to the airport. Another meeting in February will determine if Lew Wolff is allowed to convert a lot of land in south SJ to residential zoning and allow for development of condos. This would provide the funding for the stadium. I have no idea why the two issues are separated, being that one is contingent upon the other.

1. City: Belfast, Northern Ireland (Population: 276,459, Metropolitan Area: 579,554)

2. Location: - Red shaded area below:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/nicolinadavidson/Belfast-1.jpg

Why this location?

For many years, Belfast City Council have been trying to move the city centre east, in order to bridge the river without much success. With the commencement of work on Titanic Quarter to the west of this area, it seems they may well be in a position to achieve this aim. Currently, this space is close to being waste land - it contains buildings but they are unused and there are no current plans for this development. Over and above this, the busiest railway line in Northern Ireland passes by the site, just on the other side of the Sydenham Bypass, the M3 motorway tails off less than 500metres from the site, linking the areas east of Belfast, the M2 linking the North and the M1, liking the West of the country, also stop near by and have excellent access to the site. Much of the necessary transportation structure is already in place and there is a considerable area around the site for carparking, not to mention carparking for 10,000 people already in place at the near by Odyssey Arena (a two minute walk away). There is also an airport almost directly north of this site.

3. Stadium infrastructure in Northern Ireland is put to shame by that in most third world countries. The international soccer team play in a stadium that was, recently, declared as a firehazard and has had its capacity reduced over the years to 14,000, which is unsatisfactory for current demand. Add to that the Ulster Rugby side who will have to look for a stadium outside of Northern Ireland, should they reach the quarter final or semi final of a Heineken Cup and the fact that Casement Park, the GAA stadium in Belfast, while holding 36,000, is almost entirely terrace and has little more than very basic facilities. Disturbingly, the latter is probably the stadium in the best condition in Northern Ireland.

1. St. Helens,
2. Cba finding an image, but it's (very) roughly equidistant between Liverpool and Manchester.

3. Yes, 20k at the most though. We currently have the best rugby league team in the UK, maybe the World. Our current stadium holds at most 18k and is over 100 years old. A new stadium has been so many years in the making, and lately it looks like we might finally be getting one. Hopefully it will be of JJB Stadium standard.

1. City: Belfast, Northern Ireland (Population: 276,459, Metropolitan Area: 579,554)

2. Location: - Red shaded area below:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/nicolinadavidson/Belfast-1.jpg

Why this location?

For many years, Belfast City Council have been trying to move the city centre east, in order to bridge the river without much success. With the commencement of work on Titanic Quarter to the west of this area, it seems they may well be in a position to achieve this aim. Currently, this space is close to being waste land - it contains buildings but they are unused and there are no current plans for this development. Over and above this, the busiest railway line in Northern Ireland passes by the site, just on the other side of the Sydenham Bypass, the M3 motorway tails off less than 500metres from the site, linking the areas east of Belfast, the M2 linking the North and the M1, liking the West of the country, also stop near by and have excellent access to the site. Much of the necessary transportation structure is already in place and there is a considerable area around the site for carparking, not to mention carparking for 10,000 people already in place at the near by Odyssey Arena (a two minute walk away). There is also an airport almost directly north of this site.

3. Stadium infrastructure in Northern Ireland is put to shame by that in most third world countries. The international soccer team play in a stadium that was, recently, declared as a firehazard and has had its capacity reduced over the years to 14,000, which is unsatisfactory for current demand. Add to that the Ulster Rugby side who will have to look for a stadium outside of Northern Ireland, should they reach the quarter final or semi final of a Heineken Cup and the fact that Casement Park, the GAA stadium in Belfast, while holding 36,000, is almost entirely terrace and has little more than very basic facilities. Disturbingly, the latter is probably the stadium in the best condition in Northern Ireland.

k i think this will be the location of my new stadium design.
Ill need more images and perhaps some more info.
Could send you an image of the stadium concept which is pretty much final so no major changes.

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All the cities in europa, (expecially brit), USA and Australia has 3 or more stadiums.
In fact, all the cities in the world..
The only one that has not is Buenos Aires
Repeat all but not Buenos Aires.
By the way.. all the big stadia in Buenos Aires are private. NOT PUBLIC.

What exactly are you trying to say?:bash:

Chapel Hill, N.C. population - 48,000
UNC/Kenan Stadium capacity - 60,000

Boone, N.C. population - 14,000
Appalachian State University/Kid Brewer Stadium capacity - 28,000

Cullowhee, N.C. population - 3,500
Western Carolina University/Whitmire Stadium capacity - 12,000

Lexington, VA population - 7,000
VMI/Foster Stadium capacity - 10,000

Ann Arbor Michigan has a population of 114,000 including the student population of the U of Michigan student population of 37,000, so about 77,000 full time residents. Michigan Stadium seats 107,501 and is always over capacity (although if they keep losing to II-A schools that might change). So depending on how you factor capacity, its somewhat larger, or slightly smaller than Ann Arbor.

Appalachian State University is not a Division II school, it is I-AA...which has a name change effective in 2007 - Division I Football Championship Subdivision. I-A is now called Division I Football Bowl Subdivision.

Mo doesnt that mean we'll have to make the stadium rugby and GAA capable. and the stadium is more of a 20000 seater atm with a option for expansion 35000.

Mine doesn't. We have two 50,000+ seater football stadiums.

Dandenong (25km SE of Melbourne CBD), Australia

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=dandenong&ie=UTF8&om=1&t=k&ll=-37.990295,145.205934&spn=0.011178,0.023496&z=16&iwloc=addr

Why??? - A-League expansion.

With the Victory firmly entrenched in the CBD with it's own 34k stadium about to start construction, Dandenong is the perfect location for this city's second team. It's located in the disused stocklands site in Dandenong just south of Melbourne's geographical center, which is also the second largest population growth area in Australia. It's adjacent to a train station and has good road access.

k i think this will be the location of my new stadium design.
Ill need more images and perhaps some more info.
Could send you an image of the stadium concept which is pretty much final so no major changes.

Sounds good. Here's a couple of satellite images of the location. To put it into context, the city centre is about 5 - 10 minutes walk east from this site, at most.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/nicolinadavidson/Belfast2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Oval_home_end.jpg

To put the size of the site into context, the stadium directly to the south, across the Sydenham Bypass, is The Oval, home of Glentoran:

http://www.chilvers1.demon.co.uk/images/oval.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Oval_home_end.jpg

The silver dome that can be seen at the very east of the lower of the two images is The Odyssey, which is where the carparking for 10,000 is already in place.

San Diego needs a soccer stadium to attract an MLS team. :D


I agree.
Though maybe San Diego can start with a USL D1 team and work their way up?

I live in State College, PA (38,420) home of Beaver Stadium (110,000+)

http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/beaver-stadium-lg.jpg

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/ncaa_blog/beaver_stadium1.jpg

Morgantown WV - 28,654

Mountaineer Field - 61,000

http://www.skylinepictures.com/West_Virginia_University_wvu1_large.jpg

1. Toronto, Ontario, Canada

2. http://i8.tinypic.com/549s6c4.jpg

3. Because the local gridiron team, The Toronto Argonauts, are trying to get out of the Rogers Centre (SkyDome) so they could play in a building of their own. (BTW I guess this should be a 40 000+ seat stadium but...yeah)
The old Lamport Stadium would be a good place IMO, but the lot is a bit small.

Why not work out a deal and share BMO? It's got plastic turf, that makes laying down and washing off temporary lines easier.

I live in State College, PA (38,420) home of Beaver Stadium (110,000+)

http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/beaver-stadium-lg.jpg

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/ncaa_blog/beaver_stadium1.jpg
That is such an impressive stadium for a such an isolated community. I get the impression so many college stadia are cheap, dilapidated bowls but Beaver Stadium is hardly that. Gorgeous facility.

I live in State College, PA (38,420) home of Beaver Stadium (110,000+)

http://naproom.mu.nu/pics/beaver-stadium-lg.jpg


:eek2:

What are good stadium sites? I know two good sites:

http://www.stadiumzone.net

http://www.worldstadiums.com

On a game day we go from not even being in the top ten to the 3rd largest city in the state after only Philadelphia and Pittsburgh

Pretty good. Thank you!

the second one rocks !

the first site is poor.. i don't recomend about it personally

another site:
http://www.stadiumguide.com

Chapel Hill - 48,000
UNC/Kenan Stadium - 60,000

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/47614735_3ab3d51430.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1288/1309526403_5e087aec8e.jpg?v=0
(flickr)

Clemson - 12,000
Clemson University/Memorial Stadium aka Death Valley - 86,000

"The most exciting 25 seconds in college football"
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/106/253911295_cce6e9f461.jpg?v=0

Howard's Rock
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/361684265_1a7ee87e14.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/1044385757_58c15ce0e7.jpg?v=0
(flickr)

Charlottesville - 40,500
UVA/Scott Stadium - 61,000

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/351625059_34fbdf9665.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/86/240872705_2602bda302.jpg?v=0
(flickr)

www.seatdata.com
www.stadia.gr
www.swissgrounds.ch
staiony.net
www.austadiums.com

hertha- or should I say psveindhoven... maybe you should just drop it instead of promoting same sh.t you put everywhere else.

Everyone- this person only posts links to a website he has done using other people's work. This is pathetic- if your website is good, people will notice it. If not- no guerrilla advertising would help. Not mentioning what I've told you before- you steel from other people.

And yest- Stadiumguide is a thousand times better with nice reliable database and good navigating and own effort, something you miss.

I'd have to say australia because its high standard for only 19 million people

I believe most stadiums in the world are under 25 million, but then again, I'm from a small country.

^ yes I agree, is it safe to say that nearly all countries have stadiums under 25 million people. Which is the best is a matter of personal taste.

stadia.gr

Is the question "Which country with a population below 25 million people has the best stadiums?" ?

I'd have to say australia because its high standard for only 19 million people

LOL, where have you been in the past decade? Australia's population is 21 million.

Anyway, this will end up in a flame war. And inevitable negative comments about Australians as a whole.

The Netherlands ofcourse!!!