#NEWS: New Stadiums and Arenas [Archive] - Page 30

michał_

June 2nd, 2008, 03:14 AM

its for US readers. So what?

so read carefully. If it was supposed to be an accurate (word you used) list of super stadiums based on any consequently used criteria, there would be no room for a puny ground like the Red Bull Park, would there? [puny here- compared to real super stadiums in my opinion] Or maybe you know what makes it so super? For me being possibly best stadium in poor MLS (poor globally, I know USA has no better league of football [the global one, to avoid controversy]) is still no comparison to most new stadiums rising in Europe's big leagues. It's not even a strong comparison to stadiums being built in my country. Which means- the author didn't care about listing the stadiums that are super worldwide but made his way short and just took some info of pretty much random places he had in hand's reach.

For example I have no idea what exactly he means by being super and where is the advantage of Red Bull Park over a dozen of huge grounds under construction in Europe and Asia.
Is it stands being built just 21 feet from touchlines? Actually, that is a standard set by FIFA and UEFA for stands alongside the pitch a few years back...
Another super feature given in the text: "trenslucent roof will cover every seat". No bloody way! Every seat? You mean like if I buy a ticket I will be under a roof?! In case they don't know- it's a standard for decades. And translucent materials are normal since 90's at least, but I could bet they were introduced much earlier in stadiums.

So I'm saying it's for American readers and not those looking for a lot of in-depth info- it's just an "editorial junk food", giving very few details about the stadiums really, making it impossible to compare several figures in different stadia in the same article...

Concerns stadia close to Americans (can't blame), in different American divisions (can't blame), but is of very poor quality- to me it's actaully ignorant. I wouldn't care a bit, but it's labeled with the title FORBES, which I always viewed as reliable and giving a good review of the issues covered.

Just try to compare Red Bull Park to Sergiej Kirov Stadion (Gazprom Arena) in any single way and I could laugh in your face, even though I'm not Russia's biggest friend. But I guess Lyon and Lansdowne were easier to find just one phonecall away in a HOK office... It's a bit of a shame, cause taking the easier way gives worse quality to the readers.

My opinion only.

en1044

June 2nd, 2008, 03:23 AM

so read carefully. If it was supposed to be an accurate (word you used) list of super stadiums based on any consequently used criteria, there would be no room for a puny ground like the Red Bull Park, would there? [puny here- compared to real super stadiums in my opinion] Or maybe you know what makes it so super? For me being possibly best stadium in poor MLS (poor globally, I know USA has no better league of football [the global one, to avoid controversy]) is still no comparison to most new stadiums rising in Europe's big leagues. It's not even a strong comparison to stadiums being built in my country. Which means- the author didn't care about listing the stadiums that are super worldwide but made his way short and just took some info of pretty much random places he had in hand's reach.

For example I have no idea what exactly he means by being super and where is the advantage of Red Bull Park over a dozen of huge grounds under construction in Europe and Asia.
Is it stands being built just 21 feet from touchlines? Actually, that is a standard set by FIFA and UEFA for stands alongside the pitch a few years back...
Another super feature given in the text: "trenslucent roof will cover every seat". No bloody way! Every seat? You mean like if I buy a ticket I will be under a roof?! In case they don't know- it's a standard for decades. And translucent materials are normal since 90's at least, but I could bet they were introduced much earlier in stadiums.

So I'm saying it's for American readers and not those looking for a lot of in-depth info- it's just an "editorial junk food", giving very few details about the stadiums really, making it impossible to compare several figures in different stadia in the same article...

Concerns stadia close to Americans (can't blame), in different American divisions (can't blame), but is of very poor quality- to me it's actaully ignorant. I wouldn't care a bit, but it's labeled with the title FORBES, which I always viewed as reliable and giving a good review of the issues covered.

Just try to compare Red Bull Park to Sergiej Kirov Stadion (Gazprom Arena) in any single way and I could laugh in your face, even though I'm not Russia's biggest friend. But I guess Lyon and Lansdowne were easier to find just one phonecall away in a HOK office... It's a bit of a shame, cause taking the easier way gives worse quality to the readers.

My opinion only.

All that, but it was still written for American readers, in the US section of the site. Its not the end of the world.

michał_

June 2nd, 2008, 04:25 PM

All that, but it was still written for American readers, in the US section of the site. Its not the end of the world.
I never said it was. Still, the shift to "super stadium mode" was done in Europe and there are really more decent stadiums rising here and in Asia (look at Singapore Sports Hub for instance)- would reading about this hurt American eyes? That's why I, stadium enthusiast, am dissapointed. Nothing more.

CorliCorso

June 2nd, 2008, 04:53 PM

Most are scaled down models of the old giant soccer stadiums emphasizing seating rather than standing room, the better to minimize the chances for hordes of standing, leaning fans to fall and cause a crush.

:ohno:

michał_

June 2nd, 2008, 05:25 PM

:ohno:
You know, in the "here be dragons" part of the world :lol:
thank God at least Americans build new stadiums not based on any solutions seen before in other locations :)

Dallasbrink

June 3rd, 2008, 12:54 AM

accurate about what? Sorry but the list concerns almost only USA, is made for US readers and doesn't show at all the best "super-stadiums", but only some of those rising in North America.

The website stadiumguide.com lists 78 new soccer venues across Western Europe that either opened recently or planned for the near future, along with a handful of others in Eastern Europe and South America. Most are scaled down models of the old giant soccer stadiums emphasizing seating rather than standing room, the better to minimize the chances for hordes of standing, leaning fans to fall and cause a crush.

Two standouts: the 365 million euro ($576 million) Landsdowne Road Stadium in Dublin, Ireland, expected to open in 2009. Home to the Irish National Soccer Team as well as rugby, it will hold 50,000 fans and have 110 luxury suites, 10,000 premium club seats, fine dining and lounge bars. In Lyon, France, the 60,000-seat Olympique Lyonnais will open a year later. With a green design featuring solar power and reusable water, construction cost 240 million euros ($379 million) and will have 130 luxury suites and 5,000 premium club seats.

What more are there? also, your right, it is an American Magazine, they will loose readers if they talk about Euro stadiums

michał_

June 3rd, 2008, 02:03 AM

What more are there? also, your right, it is an American Magazine, they will loose readers if they talk about Euro stadiums

true... nothing more than scaled down models of old giant soccer stadiums with hordes of leaning fans eager to cause a crush.
And sure- no more readers would be left- spare me. Are there only rednecks interested in nothing but their front and backyard left? I thought Forbes had a different target.

en1044

June 3rd, 2008, 02:05 AM

Are there only rednecks interested in nothing but their front and backyard left?

I hope your not talking about what i think your talking about...

michał_

June 3rd, 2008, 02:30 AM

I hope your not talking about what i think your talking about...

I have no intention getting inside your head so bring it on.
People who don't want to know about fantastic stadiums this text was supposed to be about, who would read it only because it's about American stadiums, even if they're incomparably worse than in other parts of the world and even if the best examples of super stadiums are outside the US may in my opinion be called rednecks as they present the "we don't take kindly to your type" attitude.
But hey- this question was ironical. Be calm, I know it's not the case.

en1044

June 3rd, 2008, 03:59 AM

I have no intention getting inside your head so bring it on.
People who don't want to know about fantastic stadiums this text was supposed to be about, who would read it only because it's about American stadiums, even if they're incomparably worse than in other parts of the world and even if the best examples of super stadiums are outside the US may in my opinion be called rednecks as they present the "we don't take kindly to your type" attitude.
But hey- this question was ironical. Be calm, I know it's not the case.

Well let me present you with some information. If thats how you define a redneck then i guess i am too because i dont take to kindly to you calling us that. I honestly dont care what basis or reasons you have for saying it, just dont do it. You want to bring it on, then fine. Do not insult me with your stereotypes of Americans. I have to deal with it all the time and it just pisses me off. Keep your biased comments elsewhere. Maybe to you youre criticizing the US for being "centrist", but to me all youre doing is being the typical European who thinks that if something isnt the way they like it then its wrong. If you read this board then you will probably realize that almost every American here has to defend themselves from other people for being different, while at the same time really never criticize others. By saying that Americans dont have good stadiums or that they arent up to par with the rest of the world is just ignorance and in my opinion is shameful on your part. The US happens to have many of the worlds best stadiums.

hoosier

June 3rd, 2008, 04:01 AM

Lucas Oil Stadium is the best of the bunch. And the best team out of all those tenants plays there.:banana:

GO COLTS!!

Dallasbrink

June 3rd, 2008, 04:12 AM

i didn't know all Americans were rednecks, just like i didn't know Polish wankers gave up so easily when attacked quickly. but i would have to say, there have been few impressive stadium built in Europe minus Wimble, Lyon and that new field in Liverpool, and these new stadiums are scaled down versions of those piss holes you tried to kill each other in, the fact is America is building some of the most impressive stadiums in the world at the moment and that was pointed out by an american magazine released in AMERICA. its from www.forbes.com, not www.forbes.eu.
wanker!

Carrerra

June 3rd, 2008, 05:49 AM

For American stadiums I think they deserve to be called Super staidums except for a few MLS stadiums with a capacity of less than 30K.

marrio415

June 3rd, 2008, 06:18 AM

i can think of Bejing that would whoop anything American dude thats being or been built at the mo

en1044

June 3rd, 2008, 06:25 AM

i can think of Bejing that would whoop anything American dude thats being or been built at the mo

Id say that the new stadium in Dallas will be the best in the world when its completed.

marrio415

June 3rd, 2008, 06:31 AM

Id say that the new stadium in Dallas will be the best in the world when its completed.

Yeah that stadium looks like it will kick arse.I do like it

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/mazza75/WembleyStadium.jpg

Thats a Super Stadium.Wembley. Photo by Sparks in the uk forum

michał_

June 3rd, 2008, 12:51 PM

If thats how you define a redneck then i guess i am too because i dont take to kindly to you calling us that.
If you don't like being insulted, then no, you're not. But I didn't want to insult you (since you felt this way: sorry), please try to understand my point of view:
I responded to an opinion that Forbes would loose readers if it wrote about non-american stadiums. That would have to happen only if all of its readers were complete rednecks not interested in anything outside their home town. Which I deeply believe is NOT TRUE (and that is why I felt dissapointed with the article, especially that we do have Forbes in Poland and I'm sure every other European country has it as well).

Do not insult me with your stereotypes of Americans. I have to deal with it all the time and it just pisses me off.
Read above... (btw: I could easily use the word redneck to describe many people in other countries, also Poland. Although maybe it's reserved for some specific group in US only and my english skill is too low?)

Maybe to you youre criticizing the US for being "centrist", but to me all youre doing is being the typical European who thinks that if something isnt the way they like it then its wrong.
Oh, sorry- I'm the one using stereotypes, ain't I? ;)

If you read this board then you will probably realize that almost every American here has to defend themselves from other people for being different, while at the same time really never criticize others.
Well, actually I haven't noticed that (in fact I have pretty good relationships with a few Americans, also on this borad), but I don't follow every thread.

By saying that Americans dont have good stadiums or that they arent up to par with the rest of the world is just ignorance and in my opinion is shameful on your part. The US happens to have many of the worlds best stadiums.
Please get back to where I started this and read carefully. I ONLY referred to putting Red Bull Park in the same row with huuuuge and veeeery impressive stadiums from Indianapolis or Arlington (I don't like them just like I don't like another design of HKS- the new Anfield in Liverpool, not for being American, but it's not my aesthetics; still I would never say these stadiums are poor, they're top class), while I am sure nobody would turn their backs on Forbes if they described for example the World's first super stadium- Amsterdam Arena... Not because it's European, but because it changed the way of thinking about stadiums (and that is not my opinion, but one of football specialists).
So you're trying to accuse me of things I haven't done. I never said all the venues mentioned aren't super stadiums, I only referred to one- proove your point and I will apologize.

I don't know why so many Americans think everyone is against them and if there is any criticism (I don't refer only to this case, happened quite a few times on this forum), you just say someone attacks your country, whole nation or sth like that. Come on, we're not kids. there are many nations here that stereotypically would have to hate each other, yet not every argument ends up with accusations of attacking other people's nations. But Americans really tend to take it that way- ask me why, I don't know?

I said Red Bull Park doesn't deserve to be in the bunch and think that European stadiums were treated purely stereotypically ("scaled down models of old stadiums" while RBP is just a copy of what was started in Europe over a decade back; "hordes of shouting, leaning fans"- sorry, if that isn't stereotypical, than what is? What does it have to do with super-stadium mode?). And I end up being a wanker who dared to attack the greatest country in the world which gives itself the right to have the best and (almost)only superstadiums...
peace.

Then I see this:
i didn't know all Americans were rednecks, just like i didn't know Polish wankers gave up so easily when attacked quickly. but i would have to say, there have been few impressive stadium built in Europe minus Wimble, Lyon and that new field in Liverpool, and these new stadiums are scaled down versions of those piss holes you tried to kill each other in, the fact is America is building some of the most impressive stadiums in the world at the moment and that was pointed out by an american magazine released in AMERICA. its from www.forbes.com, not www.forbes.eu.
wanker!
... and I think stereotypes aren't that far from truth sometimes (thankfully rarely). Bravo Dallasbrink, once again you've shown class.
Emirates Stadium, Santiago Bernabeu, Camp Nou (2012), Nou Mestalla, la Peineta, Gazprom Arena (!), Seyrantepe, Shachtar Stadium, NSK Olimpiys’kyi (2011), Stade de France, Allianz Arena, Arena auf Schalke, Nordbank Arena, LTU Arena, Waldstadion, Amsterdam Arena, Estadio da Luz, Kayseri Stadium, Estadio Jose Alvalade XXI, Estadio do Dragao, Swedbank Arena, Stadion Narodowy, Stadionul Nacional, Baltic Arena, Wroclaw Stadium, Astana Stadium, Stadion Ukraina, Nueva Romareda, Stadion Spartak, Votanikos Arena, then comes Asia, Africa, Australia and Latin America... nothing impressive, nothing more than Red Bull Park has to offer. Cheers. :cheers:

Carrerra

June 3rd, 2008, 05:17 PM

After adding several Brazilian stadiums which were proposed to FIFA for WC 2014 and others, this has become the list of 40,000+ football-oriented stadiums with no athletics tracks which will be newly built or completely reconstructed (Editing date : AM 02:00, 07 June 2008)

If you can't see just a single of images don't hesitate to say about it. I'll immediately fix it. I'll always let all 40 images shown to everyone who is into this thread as far as it remains in this forum

1. Soccer City Stadium (94,700), Johannesburg, South Africa
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2. Nou Mestalla (75,000), Valencia, Spain
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3. Green Point Stadium (68,500), Cape Town, South Africa
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b51e30a9e6f304cd8eadc19751c3&f_no=7ff3da36e2

4. Estrela dos Reis Magos (65,100), Natal, Brazil
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66676470d345178adf51b79aaca4ea11c08e1584eed342ea461950ca6ef982407d4427b931bf5f92d3470bad0&f_no=23bcc427e99c32b669

5. Gazprom Arena (62,200), Saint Petersburg, Russia
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6. New Anfield (60,000), Liverpool, England
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7. OL Land (60,000), Lyon, France
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8. New Tofik Bakhramov Stadium (60,000), Baku, Azerbaijan
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0e51e63ace6a2059c8ea9c19751c3&f_no=7bf3da36e2

9. New Maksimir (60,000), Zagreb, Croatia
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=design&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d664764507284c7da2cef52752c7008272b39367f4c7dc7a95bef0335a3c74ce10e4ab&f_no=75f3da36e2

10. Estadio Deportivo Cali (58,000), Santiago de Cali, Columbia
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66a76470d345178ad174f2760f9a2e9b82d6eca71ca31efa8650e507b9f5c67daed97669d7477b4c74f95cc8fcbf5095cc73ff5f941088c368f84580c10&f_no=08aec427e1db37994abac6ba04c52d2bd3649918c659b650bbb5

11. New San Mames (56,000), Bilbao, Spain
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b21f30fbbda6039e8ea8c19751c3&f_no=7af3da36e2

12. Amakhosi Stadium (55,000), Johannesburg, South Africa
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b04764ffbef2049f8ea6c19751c3&f_no=74f3da36e2

13. Stadion Narodowy (55,000), Warsaw, Poland
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b11167aabcf3019f8eaedfd34bd4a6&f_no=7ced9e2cf5d5

14. Lia Manoliu Arena (55,000), Bucharest, Romania
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b11e63aab9f658988eaeded34bd4af&f_no=7cec9e2cf5d5

15. Estadio Chivas (54,500), Zapopan, Mexico
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b94332abbca2559a8eda9c8940c0e0606e63c0ca71e5aa857a9d&f_no=08aec427e1db37a566b6c0b4059f2e2d48

16. Aslantepe Stadium (52,500), Istanbul, Turkey
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b61739a9e9a701c88eaeddd34bd498&f_no=7cef9e2cf5d5

17. Estadio do Corinthians (51,848), Sao Paulo, Brazil
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b44567a9edf1579e8eaedcd34bd416&f_no=7cee9e2cf5d5

18. Arena do Gremio (51,000), Porto Alegre, Brazil
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19. Stade Borne de l'Espoir (50,186), Lille, France
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b61431a9eefb029d8eaedad36bf43b&f_no=7ce89e0cd5f5

20. Shakhtar Stadium (50,000), Donetsk, Ukraine
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b71533f9eef755cf8eaed9d34bd495&f_no=7ceb9e2cf5d5

21. Lansdowne Road (50,000), Dublin, Ireland
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22. SwedBank Arena (50,000), Stockholm, Sweden
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b44430fbbbf5509d8eaed7d34bd45f&f_no=7ce59e2cf5d5

23. New Goodison (50,000), Liverpool, England
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b44467ade7a659ca8eaed6d34bd44b&f_no=7ce49e2cf5d5

24. AEK Arena (50,000), Athens, Greece
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25. Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium (48,000), Port Elizabeth, South Africa
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26. Mbombela Stadium (46,000), Nelspruit, South Africa
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27. Poznan Municipal Stadium (46,000), Poznan, Poland
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66676470d345178adf51b79aaca4ea11c08e1584eed342ea461955ba3ea90740186457bcf4eaff23169&f_no=7fe99e2cf5d5

28. Recife Arena (45,500), Recife, Brazil
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b64765f9edf157958efb889945c3dc9b3610&f_no=29bad422e29c129649

29. Arena Zagallo (45,337), Maceio, Brazil
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66676470d345178adf51b79aaca4ea11c08e1584eed342ea4619508f0b9cd705b87177b871be6f92dcfc5443cd189&f_no=37bcd727e9de37e864afd1

30. Peter Mokaba Stadium (45,000), Polokwane, South Africa
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b71137fdbef306948ecf8a8944d63c7bd9015f4781469e2597ac72dd4b4492b5e8&f_no=1db8c423f79215a965bed4b456e2303cb92723b87381d1a4

31. Arena da Bahia (44,100), Salvador, Brazil
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=design&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d665764507284c7da2357626faf6a60e73a6e0e3b6f2bd4a4ed8cb4b66852e16fbfedba81a9580bcd4f04d6441&f_no=2cafd528e4ed3aa766b6d7fb1cc123

32. Wroclaw Stadium (44,000), Wroclaw, Poland
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66676470d345178adf51b79aaca4ea11c08e1584eed342ea461950ff3ef91720084157bcf4daff231ce&f_no=7fea9e2cf5d5

33. Baltic Arena (44,000), Gdansk, Poland
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=design&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d667764507284c7da2310ffc887c79cbb1752e6a355494f13b70b6bfeeea5679d23bf005&f_no=7fe59e2cf5d5

34. Euro Stadium (42,700), Strasbourg, France
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66a76470d345178ad174f2760f9a2e9b82d6eca71ca31efa8650e537fca08608bec9066bd7271bad0f9ef500ab6edac1fd24dad&f_no=28a8c229f6c639a267aadbe758db343a

35. Votanikos Arena (42,000), Athens, Greece
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66676470d345178adf51b79aaca4ea11c08e1584eed342ea4619558f5bbcd7753d3447bcf43aca96f46dd55&f_no=7fe49d77abd828a1

36. New Besiktas Inonu Stadium (42,000), Istanbul, Turkey
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=design&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d665764507284c7da2357626faf6a60e73a6e0e3b6a6be1d4e1a7552dcd4056f547dce2a315c52d8925a085a25be1fc072499ff9f274&f_no=23b8c719410236a960aa968602d020346168a010e8c2

37. Spartak Stadium (42,000), Moscow, Russia
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66676470d345178adf51b79aaca4ea11c08e1584eed342ea461955df0ee907050d4407bcf43aff2316c&f_no=7fe49e2cf5d5

38. Estadio Nou Sarria (41,000), Barcelona, Spain
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=design&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d665764507284c7da2357626faf6a60e73a6e0e3b6f3e945491b21fc9cf272481d401c4791e937322cf8a832f24b&f_no=1f9ef419c0c128a760a6d9b958db343a

39. Sochi Olympic Park (40,000), Sochi, Russia - It will be turned into football arena post the 2014 Games
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=design&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d665764507284c7da2357626faf6a60e73a6e0e3b6a6bd194b075195e18a335a198a57d16aeb93&f_no=1eb2d32eec9c32b669

40. Juventus Arena (40,000), Turin, Italy
http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=design&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d665764507284c7da2357626faf6a60e73a6e0e3b6a1ef1918e704084a023b9474a2f1f81d0c29a4f5511b778d92fd&f_no=18abd528f1c72b994fadd3bb179f2e2d37

masterpaul

June 3rd, 2008, 05:27 PM

terrible Pics for every sngle polish stadium

masterpaul

June 3rd, 2008, 05:38 PM

Baltic Arena:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/97/24870296kx2.jpg

http://www.e-gdansk.gov.pl/ogolne/foto/baltic_arena/foto/BalticArena07.jpg

http://www.e-gdansk.gov.pl/ogolne/foto/baltic_arena/foto/BalticArena05.jpg

http://www.e-gdansk.gov.pl/ogolne/foto/baltic_arena/foto/BalticArena17.jpg

Wroclaw:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/gesah/DSCF0587.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/gesah/DSCF0580.jpg

GdZIiGcgSo0

Warsaw:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4905/z4905102X.jpg

http://i32.************/2z5n78k.jpg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/19774/stadion_narodowy_jsk512_2.jpeg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/19774/stadion_narodowy_jsk512_1.jpeg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/4/4891/z4891514X.jpg

Poznan:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8591/49577077lz3.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4342/stadionzb2.jpg

Cs1HiDOLYhk

Votanikos Arena:

http://www.arishellas.com/images/projects/118/1196430612_big.jpg

http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/gi/gipedo3_2008_5_28_16_29_49_b.jpg

http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/gi/gipedo4_2008_5_28_16_30_27_b.jpg

http://www.arishellas.com/images/projects/118/1196430789_big.jpg

http://www.arishellas.com/images/projects/118/1196430898_big.jpg

Spartak:

VV9P-2iwOK4

Benn

June 3rd, 2008, 05:40 PM

I'd probably say
1. Gazprom Arena
2. Nou Mestalla
3. Estadio Chivas

Definately my top three, athough I have a little bit of a hard time picking one.

masterpaul

June 3rd, 2008, 05:53 PM

The top 6 is:

1) Mestella

2) Votanikos

3) Baltic Arena

4) Spartak Arena

5) Warsaw Arena

6) Wroclaw Arena

And the least favourate is:

Liverpool's Stadium.

You also missed out 2 stadiums from greece in the list ,and 2 from poland.

Dumbof

June 3rd, 2008, 05:57 PM

Which project did you put for maksimir? The blue volcano or the older one?
I fancy green point stadium, shakhtar and Wroclaw

ZZ-II

June 3rd, 2008, 05:59 PM

number 2 looks cool :)

Carrerra

June 3rd, 2008, 06:11 PM

Which project did you put for maksimir? The blue volcano or the older one?
I fancy green point stadium, shakhtar and Wroclaw

I prefer the older one and that's why I chose it. I also know the final winner will be decided on the upcoming referendum. ^^

LMCA1990

June 3rd, 2008, 06:27 PM

I personally like Valencia's and New Anfield ;)

www.sercan.de

June 3rd, 2008, 07:04 PM

1) Soccer City
2) New Anfield
3) Aslantepe :D

fidalgo

June 3rd, 2008, 07:08 PM

my top 5
in no specific order

Gazprom arena
Baltic arena
Warsaw stadium
shaktar stadium
votanikos arena

lpioe

June 3rd, 2008, 07:47 PM

Nou Mestalla, Gazprom Arena and New PAO stadium are my favourites.

christos-greece

June 3rd, 2008, 08:01 PM

The most stadiums are great! Very futuristic designs :lol: :)

Walbanger

June 3rd, 2008, 08:02 PM

Perth Stadium
http://www.perthstadium.com.au/assets/images/Perth-Stadium-Update-for-web-1.jpg

Seriously though, thats a hard list.
I'll go with...

1. Warsaw Stadium
2. Green Point Stadium
3. Gazprom Arena
4. Shakhtar Stadium
5. Lansdowne Road

OL Land is starting to grow on me.

uA_TAGA

June 3rd, 2008, 08:04 PM

14. Aslantepe Stadium (52,500)

http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_new&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d66176470d345178ada622ba6fe0d71ad98e8f9492d903dd4554c0b61739a9e9a701c88eaeddd34bd498&f_no=7cef9e2cf5d5

:okay:

somataki

June 3rd, 2008, 08:13 PM

1.Baltic Arena
2.Votanikos Arena
3. New Tofik Bakhramov Stadium

But no poll??

michał_

June 3rd, 2008, 08:15 PM

I really like almost all of them so I'll just name the few I like least here:
Poznan Municipal Stadium,
Gremio Arena,
Amakhasi,
Stade Borne de l'Espoir,
Mbombela stadium
(which doesn't mean I don't like them).

If I had to choose the most favorites: Sankt Petersburg, Istanbul and Lyon I guess...

Nacho_82

June 3rd, 2008, 08:19 PM

nou mestalla hands down

Carrerra

June 3rd, 2008, 08:27 PM

1.Baltic Arena
2.Votanikos Arena
3. New Tofik Bakhramov Stadium

But no poll??

Unfortunately I coundn't attach a poll becuase I didn't make it to pole-attaching deadline - within 5 minutes after posting. In fact 5 minutes already passed while I was writing the poll. My poor typing was the cause :ohno::ohno::ohno:

dudu24

June 3rd, 2008, 09:20 PM

You can replace New Maksimir project with Kajzerica stadium

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2008/05/01/28.wide.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2008/05/01/24.wide.jpg

Anyway my top 3 would be Nou Mestalla, Gazprom Arena and Shaktar

en1044

June 3rd, 2008, 09:22 PM

I don't know why so many Americans think everyone is against them and if there is any criticism (I don't refer only to this case, happened quite a few times on this forum), you just say someone attacks your country, whole nation or sth like that. Come on, we're not kids. there are many nations here that stereotypically would have to hate each other, yet not every argument ends up with accusations of attacking other people's nations. But Americans really tend to take it that way- ask me why, I don't know?

Its good to have this cleared up, i hate having these kinds of discussions, but i thought i would clear up what you stated above...

Americans take offense to many things said about them on this board, and many others too, because Europeans seem to be the least accepting of American culture. It appears that based on what they have seen in their media, or just ideas they have come up with on their own, that Americans are fat, corporate, and have no creativity. Many of the Europeans on the site criticize American stadiums because they dont look like the ones in Europe. Americans almost never criticize other stadiums for having a roof or or other European qualities, but receive criticism back times ten. We might be the nicest people on the board, but when we get crap over and over again for not having the standard (European) kind of stadiums it gets old. Thats when you see us fight back.

But its not just that. Any American can turn on the TV and see people that hate us and we think "well i didnt do anything to you. I go to work every day, take care of my family, do things that anybody does". Were just regular people. An American takes crap for no reason. Dont forget that there are people out there who would like to see every one of us dead (even though i know were not the only ones) Being the worlds number one target in politices and culture can put a strain on someone. Personally, im fed up with it.

We arent European, we live across the Atlantic, therefore we arent mashed together with other countries and share the same ideas. Theres no one else like us and that seems to threaten some people i think. Obviously, our genius of a President gets Americans a lot of crap, but no one likes him anyway, i dont see why we have to pay for his many mistakes. So im just trying to say, Americans are different, and people are just going to have to learn and accept it. What I just wrote might seem like common sense, but amazingly some people dont think about it at all.

en1044

June 3rd, 2008, 09:31 PM

ØlandDK

June 3rd, 2008, 10:39 PM

Nou Mestalla is my favorite!:yes:

ÜberMaromas

June 3rd, 2008, 10:54 PM

Nou Mestalla FTW!!

Carrerra

June 4th, 2008, 12:34 AM

Nou Mestalla, Gazprom Arena and New PAO stadium are my favourites.

Your stadium designs are fantastic indeed :okay:

en1044

June 4th, 2008, 01:09 AM

no american stadiums, of course

infernal

June 4th, 2008, 01:10 AM

Spartak is my favorite :D

marrio415

June 4th, 2008, 02:01 AM

you might not like your president but he was voted in for two terms

soy chiva y que.....

June 4th, 2008, 02:59 AM

New render chivas stadium... U/C

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8383/estadiochivfh9bz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8383/estadiochivfh9bz9.dcc7cb71ac.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=526&i=estadiochivfh9bz9.jpg)

Carrerra

June 4th, 2008, 03:12 AM

no american stadiums, of course? en1044, Is that all you can say about this? I didn't know you are so narrow-minded :ohno:

masterpaul

June 4th, 2008, 03:18 AM

Stadiums that shoudnt be on that lit

Stadium:

Yankee Stadium

Why?

Its hardly better then the last one, and way too expensive and not impressive.

Stadium:

Citi Field

Why?

Theres nothing impressive about it. It only has a huge capacity.

Stadium:

Pittsburgh Hockey Arena

Why:

There a lot more impresive indoor halls (or hockey stadiums) out there, being built or planned or already built.

Stadium:

Red Bulls Park

Why?

a typical stadum football stadium

Stadium:

Salt Lake City Soccer Stadium

Why?

Your serious? The roof hardly covers any spectators, it it awfully expensive for what u get in the pack, it looks like a 2nd league stadium (or a really poor league stadium) from the inside, and maybe even from the outside.

en1044

June 4th, 2008, 03:39 AM

I dont think you really realize what happened in those elections though

en1044

June 4th, 2008, 03:44 AM

These stadiums do belong on the list because it was written for American readers. And what arenas are better than the one being built in Pittsburgh??

Other problems in your post:
1. Yankee Stadium is MUCH better than the garbage its replacing, and fits the idea of a super stadium with its luxury suites and small capacity
2. Citi Field doesnt really belong on the list but it doesnt have a huge capacity by any means

en1044

June 4th, 2008, 03:47 AM

These stadiums do belong on the list because it was written for American readers. And what arenas are better than the one being built in Pittsburgh??

Other problems in your post:
1. Yankee Stadium is MUCH better than the garbage its replacing, and fits the idea of a super stadium with its luxury suites and small capacity. It also is very impressive being that it resembles the ORIGINAL Yankee Stadium
2. Citi Field doesnt really belong on the list but it doesnt have a huge capacity by any means

en1044

June 4th, 2008, 10:41 AM

no american stadiums, of course? en1044, Is that all you can say about this? I didn't know you are so narrow-minded :ohno:

No im not narrow minded, it just seems as if you pulled stadiums from everywhere but the US...just a statement.

Imota

June 4th, 2008, 12:00 PM

My favourite is Nou Mestalla - definately

Durbsboi

June 4th, 2008, 12:09 PM

Nice list, but Im dissapointed you dont have Moeses Mabhida stadium there :(

http://www.sa2010.gov.za/slideshows/stadiums/durban.jpg

en1044

June 4th, 2008, 12:24 PM

Other planned stadiums

San Francisco 49ers

http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/future/49ers751.jpg

Ney York Jets/ Giants

http://stadiumsofnfl.com/future/meadowlands900.jpg

Demetrius

June 4th, 2008, 01:30 PM

1. New Mestalla-An elegant fresh version of the classic "bowl"
2. New Anfield-It was about time to see something different that's not too eccentric or bizarre
3. Votanikos-Perfect example of how a very stylish original (Dragao) can transcent into a new fresh version with unique character
4. Romanias' new national stadium: The Latins of the Balkans have style!
5. New Saktar: That's the kind of stadium I would like my team (Olympiacos) to have!

michał_

June 4th, 2008, 01:36 PM

No im not narrow minded, it just seems as if you pulled stadiums from everywhere but the US...just a statement.
Why did I know this would happen?
Carrerra- you should have made a more complete list, accusations like this were bound to happen.
en1044- please notice this list lack many stadiums from other countries as well: Singapore, Kazakhstan, Japan, Ukraine, Germany, Spain, Brazil, Australia, Canada, Russia or even Bulgaria.
Just remember this is a pretty subjective list with what someone concerns as his top 30 list. And I haven't seen others trying to say that they're not being pulled in on purpose... stay cool.

Demetrius

June 4th, 2008, 01:41 PM

edit.

Toadboy

June 4th, 2008, 02:26 PM

Anfield's the only one that doesn't look like an off the shelf job.

The sad thing will be when football loses two of it's great bear pits - Anfield and San Mames, 2 of the great football cathedrals.

Gherkin

June 4th, 2008, 02:37 PM

I was going to vote for Liverpool's new stadium but number 15 looks awesome!

Carrerra

June 4th, 2008, 02:44 PM

I was going to vote for Liverpool's new stadium but number 15 looks awesome!

But Corinthians was relegated to 2nd division this year. This will be a serious damage to the building plan.

michał_

June 4th, 2008, 03:09 PM

These stadiums do belong on the list because it was written for American readers.
There we go again. If it's for Americans, does it have to show rubbish if it's American rubbish? Really, there is absolutely nothign super in ANY MLS stadium, maybe Vancouver or some new franchise I don't realize would change it, but not sure about that. Still I think that most new stadiums rising in dozens of o****ries would make a better example and American readers wouldn't really mind, would they? It's not about replacing all American designs, but showing a good example of the subject journalist writes about.

Keyser Soze

June 4th, 2008, 05:54 PM

New Anfield is stunning. It'll be 76,000 as well.

EPA001

June 4th, 2008, 07:17 PM

New Anfield is stunning. It'll be 76,000 as well.

I thought that "only" 71.000 was possible as the maximum capacity? That is already an increase of 11.000 compared to the initial capacity of 60.000. Is there room for 5.000 more seats?

infernal

June 4th, 2008, 07:24 PM

Chivas kind of looks like a potty trainer :tongue2:

Zeno2

June 4th, 2008, 08:10 PM

favorites :

Soccer City Stadium (94,700)
Nou Mestalla (75,000)
New San Mames (56,000)
Lansdowne Road (50,000)
Peter Mokaba Stadium (45,000)
Votanikos Arena (42,000)

least favorites :

Aslantepe Stadium (52,500)
Gazprom Arena (62,200)
New Anfield (60,000)
OL Land (60,000)
New Maksimir (60,000)
Stade Borne de l'Espoir (50,186)
New Anfield (60,000)
SwedBank Arena (50,000)
Mbombela Stadium (46,000)
New Anfield (60,000)

Carrerra

June 4th, 2008, 08:22 PM

Chivas kind of looks like a potty trainer :tongue2:

But one thing is missing. Backrest! :llama:

Goothrey

June 4th, 2008, 10:17 PM

They are all pretty nice.

Benn

June 4th, 2008, 11:58 PM

Red Bull park is going to be pretty nice, the proposed Philly one wasn't bad either, certainly not super stadiums. That implies something either huge, or revolutionary. Wembley, maybe the Nou Mestella, Jerryworld, Soccer City. When the Skydome opened up it would have certainly qualified. The Technical inovation at the Siatma Super Arena or Veltins Arena could qualify. But the article is crap, seem like propaganda, and I am American.

As Far as NHL arenas better than the new Pittsburgh one, the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul and Nationwide Arena in Columbus will almost certainly be better as far as Hockey arenas go, both are just fantastic. We don't know exactly what the new Penguins arena will be like, It may well be in the top few, but the last couple of arenas from HOK seem pretty uninspired, and this doesn't look much better at the moment. The Glendale Arena, as well as the Rock and the Sprint Center are Genaric and boring on the inside (Sprint Center has a nice exterior, but the bowl is crap for basketball, and is IMO really boring). It could be great, but I am not holding my breath.

Benn

June 5th, 2008, 12:02 AM

you might not like your president but he was voted in for two terms

We didn't the first time, Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000, but we really need to get rid of the elctoral college, it was outdated 100 years ago. Only a few more months of dealing with the first President in US history who can't speak english:banana:

Benn

June 5th, 2008, 12:08 AM

There we go again. If it's for Americans, does it have to show rubbish if it's American rubbish? Really, there is absolutely nothign super in ANY MLS stadium, maybe Vancouver or some new franchise I don't realize would change it, but not sure about that. Still I think that most new stadiums rising in dozens of o****ries would make a better example and American readers wouldn't really mind, would they? It's not about replacing all American designs, but showing a good example of the subject journalist writes about.

It seems like there is an assumption that only Canada would be able to deliver a good MLS stadium, even though Red Bull Park is essentially a smaller fancier version of the Hypo-Arena in Kalgenfurt, which seems to be very well regarded. Also BMO field is kind of mediocre (great fans, but the facility itself) with the Fieldturf pitch, and structural issues in the first year of operation. Saputo in Montreal could be nice with an expansion and the Whitecaps plan looked good, but I don't know how either could be put ahead of Red Bull Park (bedsides the rediculous name). And I certainly agree that the MLS would do well to take a long hard look at newer facilities in Switzerland, Austria, Scandanavia, the smaller English and German stadiums and ect.

michał_

June 5th, 2008, 12:43 AM

It seems like there is an assumption that only Canada would be able to deliver a good MLS stadium, even though Red Bull Park is essentially a smaller fancier version of the Hypo-Arena in Kalgenfurt, which seems to be very well regarded. Also BMO field is kind of mediocre (great fans, but the facility itself) with the Fieldturf pitch, and structural issues in the first year of operation. Saputo in Montreal could be nice with an expansion and the Whitecaps plan looked good, but I don't know how either could be put ahead of Red Bull Park (bedsides the rediculous name). And I certainly agree that the MLS would do well to take a long hard look at newer facilities in Switzerland, Austria, Scandanavia, the smaller English and German stadiums and ect.
No, sorry if you feel that I consider Canada a better source of grounds. It's just the fact that I've seen several versions of the Vancouver Waterfront Stadium and building over a huge railway hub plus on the waterfront (stadium open for the bay), plus up to 30 000 seats- this is the only ground I might have considered better than RBP, within MLS of course. But I'm sure you know more possible candidates for MLS and I may not have seen all their proposals.

However, I will never agree that RBP is a smaller and fancier version of the Hypo-Arena. Mostly because I feel they're incomparable. Woertherseestadion was designed as a stadium to cope with several thousand capacity and as you know it will loose almost 20 000 seats after Euro 2008. That is a major factor that determined the construction. In fact I think that the stadium in Klagenfurt may be seen as better than other grounds of this kind [to have capacity reduced] seen worldwide, because the whole facade and roof structure is to be preserved, but lowered after Euro.
My subjective opinion is- Hypo-ground is still more aesthetic than RBP (but it's a matter of taste only). And definately not because of my sympathy towards Austrians :)

That implies something either huge, or revolutionary. Wembley, maybe the Nou Mestella, Jerryworld, Soccer City. When the Skydome opened up it would have certainly qualified. The Technical inovation at the Siatma Super Arena or Veltins Arena could qualify. But the article is crap, seem like propaganda, and I am American.

huge, revolutionary, green or efficient- I would say. This article seems more about ecnomocis, so why not LTU Arena? Why not Amsterdam ArenA or Euroborg? and so on...

cichy87

June 5th, 2008, 01:02 AM

1. Baltic Arena
2. Nou Mestalla
3. Soccer City
4. New Anfield
5. Warsaw Stadium

Benn

June 5th, 2008, 01:04 AM

michał_

June 5th, 2008, 01:22 AM

Absolutely great stadiums, although fantastic LTU is not a trend setter, Amsterdam Arena will get the nod for being the first retractable roof Football stadium, I don't really know what is special about Euroborg, other than being a nice little 20,000 seater. The Sapporo doem could qualify for how well it handle the Football/Baseball transition and has a retractable field. The Stade Suisse's roof might make it in too, I don't know of any stadium that had a PV roof earlier.

And I do understand the temporary nature of the upper teir Hypo-Arena (I thought there had been some discussion of keeping the capacity, but I may have been thinking of Salzburg). However they are strikingly similar in terms of form. Also it's not just you (and completely understand if it were unintended) but seems every time the conversation comes up the general sentiment is that Canada will probably deliver better Football(soccer) stadiums. But it just be me.

Also as far as I know the Whitecaps situation is totally up on the air, maybe a 15,000 seater, maybe 30,000 (the most recent one didn't impress me as much, but the renderings were pretty raw). We will have to see.....

LTU is said to be most effective in handling multi-sport and non-sport activities, but to me it's also one of the most beautiful. Thankfully, not a trendsetter, it's quality would be lost, like Allianz's.
Euroborg has a similar advantage- it has an ascetic form made of "cheap" concrete panels and corrugated iron, but has a school, casino and multiplex integrated, plus an unnaturaly high rate of skyboxes for such a small stadium. Agree about Sapporo Dome, but as for Stade de Suisse- I'm 90% sure that St. Jakob Park had it before...

as for temporary nature- I think you thought of Salzburg, Red bull (f#ck, them again) wanted to keep it, but as far as I know, they didn't convince the authorities and 2nd tier will be torn down. As for my sentiment- no. :) I really like Canada, love the way FC Toronto have changed MLS's image, but I realize where the potential is and it's the US. Still, MLS hasn't shown too much so far, so I treated Whitecaps proposal as innovative in it's scale. I also heard about their problems, but I just wish 50% club owners in Poland had Kerfoot's determination...

But it seems we went off track ;)

Carrerra

June 5th, 2008, 01:33 AM

It looks like Polishes have great pride in their own stadiums. Good!

krudmonk

June 5th, 2008, 03:01 AM

I like the few that aren't saddles or bedpans.

nyrmetros

June 5th, 2008, 04:31 AM

Fields of Dreams
Here Come The Super-Stadiums
Tom Van Riper, 03.31.08, 12:00 PM ET

Major League Soccer's New York Red Bulls are also building a cozy new home with 20,000 seats in nearby Harrison, N.J. The fledgling league is hoping to strike a chord with casual soccer fans by rescuing some of its teams from monstrous football stadiums--mausoleums to a soccer club playing to less than half capacity much of the time--and into soccer-only venues that bring fans closer to the action.

"The first row of seats will be just 21 feet from the touch lines, "says Red Bulls spokesman Andy McGowan, who also notes that a translucent roof will cover every seat in the house. "It will be the benchmark stadium by which all other soccer stadiums in North America are measured."

Top 10 Super Stadiums underway
http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/31/sports-stadiums-yankees-biz-sports_cx_tvr_0331stadiums_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=30000

A roof over every seat in the stadium ?? Can we dream ???? I can't wait!!

Sagaris

June 5th, 2008, 05:31 AM

Nou Mestalla, Baltic Arena, Wroclaw. I also like the Irish one and the one for Internacional though I dont see it here.

Carrerra

June 5th, 2008, 05:06 PM

Nou Mestalla, Baltic Arena, Wroclaw. I also like the Irish one and the one for Internacional though I dont see it here.

I excluded renovations. All of them listed are the ones which will be newly built or totally reconstructed(I mean old stands are completely demolished)

GNU

June 5th, 2008, 06:35 PM

Difficult question, Id say:

Nou Mestalla - design
Aslantepe - value
Soccer city - cap

Carrerra

June 5th, 2008, 09:13 PM

Probably some people including me wonder how stadiums look like in renderings and in real life. If you have any renders of existing stadiums why don't you post them with their real life pics? It would be kind of interesting to compare both. Unfortunately I don't have any stuffs to start with. Sorry :ohno::ohno::ohno:

www.sercan.de

June 5th, 2008, 09:29 PM

Allinaz Arena
Rendering
http://www.orf.at/050215-83793/architektur_dach_rot_popup_allianzarena_de.jpg

real
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2075/1964888180_02e7810b9c_o.jpg

www.sercan.de

June 5th, 2008, 09:35 PM

Olympia Stadion Berlin

Rendering
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4996/110gi3.jpg

Real
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2408/2473074755_643990fe2e_o.jpg

AWD Arena

Rendering
http://www.schulitz.de/projekts/sport/stadion/stadion_innen_mq.jpg

Real
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2240/2410119154_24c6eb79b7_b.jpg

fenderen

June 5th, 2008, 09:42 PM

Sercan, we can't see your Stadionwelt.de links :(

Carrerra

June 5th, 2008, 09:53 PM

sercan, stadionwelt images are not shown to those who are not paid members like me. Why don't you try other sources or download the images to your computer temporarily and uploading them on web hosting site and then link them to us? If you don't mind... :D

carlspannoosh

June 5th, 2008, 10:23 PM

Ashburton Grove/ Emirates Stadium
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/carlspannard/ashburton1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/carlspannard/475866493_fbd89dc43c.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rimski/475866493/

nosehairuk

June 5th, 2008, 11:00 PM

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8906/wembleycomparefq8.jpg

www.sercan.de

June 6th, 2008, 11:41 AM

edited my post

rover3

June 6th, 2008, 05:24 PM

I'd like to see an exterior evening shot of Birds Nest vs. the rendering. I don't think that 'glow' in the renderings is really there. Or not unless the pollution haze is at a 10 count! :lol:

Carrerra

June 6th, 2008, 07:06 PM

People, my list just got a major renovation. Ignore the title "among 30 stadiums". Practically it's about all 40,000+ stadiums across the world. See the list again and show your favorites!

Scba

June 6th, 2008, 10:02 PM

Yeah, glows are irritating me. I'd just like to see a render of what the stadium will look like on any old day, not with crazy nightlights and festivals in every image.

www.sercan.de

June 6th, 2008, 11:18 PM

Aslantepe Stadium wil cost 170 mil. USD

AUTO

June 6th, 2008, 11:51 PM

The best:

1. Nou Mestalla
2. Votanikos Arena
3. Stadion Narodowy
4. Shakhtar Stadium
5. Baltic Arena
6. Gazprom Arena
7. Soccer City Stadium
8. Wroclaw Stadium
9. Aslantepe Stadium
10. Lia Manoliu Arena

The worst:

1. Estrela dos Reis Magos
2. Estadio Chivas
3. Estadio do Corinthians
4. AEK Arena (Old Version)
5. Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
6. Bahia Arena
7. Arena Zagallo
8. Mbombela Stadium
9. New Goodison
10. Lansdowne Road

Dallascaper

June 7th, 2008, 05:24 PM

People, my list just got a major renovation. Ignore the title "among 30 stadiums". Practically it's about all 40,000+ stadiums across the world. See the list again and show your favorites!

Some of the stadiums on your list are very impressive - they certainly push the envelope for stadium design. Many of the stadiums seem rather mundane, as if they were designed by the same person, but maybe that is just me. Thanks for sharing – I had never heard of most of these stadiums before.

Though not technically 'planned', because it is already half-finished, the Dallas Cowboys new stadium (http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/)is certainly in a class with the best.

Iain1974

June 7th, 2008, 05:48 PM

Wow. You put a lot of effort into this highly informative thread.

I didn't realize just how much stadium construction was going on in the world, especially Europe, these days. Europe is constructing enough stadiums to host a Euro Nations Cup every year in new stadiums.

My personal favorite is Gazprom. It looks very imposing.

The Dallas Stadium looks very impressive also. Didn't the construction only start quite recently? It's a fast build.

Stifler

June 7th, 2008, 07:50 PM

Nou Mestalla and Gazprom Arena are the best for me.

Nice compilation, by the way.

Carrerra

June 7th, 2008, 09:46 PM

I added two stadiums. Estadio Deportivo Cali in Columbia and Euro Stadium in France

AUTO

June 7th, 2008, 09:56 PM

^^

And what about Kiev stadium?

bing222

June 8th, 2008, 07:40 AM

The best:

1. Melbourne Cricket Ground
2. Sydney Cricket Ground
3. Sydney Football Stadium
4. Wembley stadium
5. Shakhtar Stadium
6. Baltic Arena
7. Gazprom Arena
8. Soccer City Stadium
9. Wroclaw Stadium
10. Aslantepe Stadium
11. Lia Manoliu Arena

soy chiva y que.....

June 8th, 2008, 07:47 AM

the best:

1. gazprom arena
2. new mestalla
3. soccer city stadium
4. wembley stadium
5. shakthar stadium
6. baltic stadium
7. warsaw stadium
8. chivas stadium
9. aslantepe stadium
10. ol land

|R|@|D|U

June 8th, 2008, 04:24 PM

Top 3:
1. Mestalla

2. Gazprom arena

3. Lia Manoliu Arena :banana:

Other images of Lia Manoliu:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9746/lia3ai8.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4296/stadium3un2.jpg

koolio

June 9th, 2008, 04:46 AM

Carrerra

June 9th, 2008, 05:09 AM

larsul

June 9th, 2008, 05:53 AM

my top stadiums are:
Mestalla
Chivas Stadium
Soccer city
Gazprom arena

infernal

June 9th, 2008, 06:32 AM

But one thing is missing. Backrest! :llama:

Mines didn't have one...

Harkeb

June 9th, 2008, 06:45 AM

Nou Mestrala, Valencia, & Sochi look out of this world!

Carrerra

June 9th, 2008, 06:52 AM

Mines didn't have one...

Maybe Brazilian potty trainer has no backrest? That might be more useful for training babies to take a poop :lol:

www.sercan.de

June 9th, 2008, 12:04 PM

I don't wanna sound ignorant but have all the stadiums secured their financing? I'm looking at these ambitious projects and I'm surprised as to how many of these stadiums are being built in nations that I did not think were capable of sustaining such expenses.

And aside from the noticeable absence of any stadiums outside of Europe and South America, I'm surprised that a nation like India does not have any new mega stadiums in the pipe. There is a country that would be capable of handling the expenses due to its booming economy and has sports like cricket and even football that are extremely popular.

1. Soccer City Stadium (94,700), Johannesburg, South Africa
World Cup 2010 Final stadium. Very very secured

2. Nou Mestalla (75,000), Valencia, Spain
Looking at the conctruction pics i would say there is no problem with the finance

3. Green Point Stadium (68,500), Cape Town, South Africa
Like 1. a WC 2010 stadium

4. Estrela dos Reis Magos (65,100), Natal, Brazil
Don't know. But a possible WC 2014 stadium

5. Gazprom Arena (62,200), Saint Petersburg, Russia
Gazprom : D

6. New Anfield (60,000), Liverpool, England
I think current problem is not the money. Waiting for the permission?

7. OL Land (60,000), Lyon, France
?

8. New Tofik Bakhramov Stadium (60,000), Baku, Azerbaijan
?

9. New Maksimir (60,000), Zagreb, Croatia
?

10. Estadio Deportivo Cali (58,000), Santiago de Cali, Columbia
?. nearly finished.

11. New San Mames (56,000), Bilbao, Spain
?

12. Amakhosi Stadium (55,000), Johannesburg, South Africa
?

13. Stadion Narodowy (55,000), Warsaw, Poland
EURO 2012 stadium

14. Lia Manoliu Arena (55,000), Bucharest, Romania
?

15. Estadio Chivas (54,500), Zapopan, Mexico
?

16. Aslantepe Stadium (52,500), Istanbul, Turkey
like Valencia

17. Estadio do Corinthians (51,848), Sao Paulo, Brazil
maybe will be never built

18. Arena do Gremio (51,000), Porto Alegre, Brazil
possible WC 2014 stadium

19. Stade Borne de l'Espoir (50,186), Lille, France
i think its currently to expensive. so project could be changed

20. Shakhtar Stadium (50,000), Donetsk, Ukraine
nearly finished

21. Lansdowne Road (50,000), Dublin, Ireland
i would guess no problems

22. SwedBank Arena (50,000), Stockholm, Sweden
?

23. New Goodison (50,000), Liverpool, England
?

24. AEK Arena (50,000), Athens, Greece
?

25. Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium (48,000), Port Elizabeth, South Africa
WC 2010 stadium

26. Mbombela Stadium (46,000), Nelspruit, South Africa
WC 2010 stadium

27. Poznan Municipal Stadium (46,000), Poznan, Poland
EURO 2010 stadium

28. Recife Arena (45,500), Recife, Brazil
?

29. Arena Zagallo (45,337), Maceio, Brazil
?

30. Peter Mokaba Stadium (45,000), Polokwane, South Africa
WC 2010 stadium

31. Arena da Bahia (44,100), Salvador, Brazil
?

32. Wroclaw Stadium (44,000), Wroclaw, Poland
EURO 2012 stadium

33. Baltic Arena (44,000), Gdansk, Poland
EURO 2012 stadium

34. Euro Stadium (42,700), Strasbourg, France
?

35. Votanikos Arena (42,000), Athens, Greece
?

36. New Besiktas Inonu Stadium (42,000), Istanbul, Turkey
waiting for permission

37. Spartak Stadium (42,000), Moscow, Russia
?

38. Estadio Nou Sarria (41,000), Barcelona, Spain
?

39. Sochi Olympic Park (40,000), Sochi, Russia - It will be turned into football arena post the 2014 Games
i would say no problems

40. Juventus Arena (40,000), Turin, Italy
as i remember they are waiting for an sponsor

Carrerra

June 9th, 2008, 01:01 PM

I add a few comments to what sercan said. My additional comments are marked bold. Before I start the commentations you need to know that construction itself won't be started if there is any problem in financing the projecct. Of course I'm not the person in chare of each project but that's a kind of common-sense, which will be agreed by most of people.

[QUOTE=www.sercan.de;21548157]1. Soccer City Stadium (94,700), Johannesburg, South Africa
World Cup 2010 Final stadium. Very very secured

2. Nou Mestalla (75,000), Valencia, Spain
Looking at the conctruction pics i would say there is no problem with the finance

3. Green Point Stadium (68,500), Cape Town, South Africa
Like 1. a WC 2010 stadium

4. Estrela dos Reis Magos (65,100), Natal, Brazil
Don't know. But a possible WC 2014 stadium -> To be more precise, one of 18 venues presented to FIFA by Brazilian government at the time of bidding

5. Gazprom Arena (62,200), Saint Petersburg, Russia
U/C now!

6. New Anfield (60,000), Liverpool, England
I think current problem is not the money. Waiting for the permission?

7. OL Land (60,000), Lyon, France
?

8. New Tofik Bakhramov Stadium (60,000), Baku, Azerbaijan
?

9. New Maksimir (60,000), Zagreb, Croatia
Of New Maksimir and Blue Volcano Zagreb citizens will decide the final winner on the referendum due on autumn this year!

10. Estadio Deportivo Cali (58,000), Santiago de Cali, Columbia
?. nearly finished.

11. New San Mames (56,000), Bilbao, Spain
?

12. Amakhosi Stadium (55,000), Johannesburg, South Africa
U/C now!

13. Stadion Narodowy (55,000), Warsaw, Poland
EURO 2012 stadium

14. Lia Manoliu Arena (55,000), Bucharest, Romania
?

15. Estadio Chivas (54,500), Zapopan, Mexico
U/C now!

16. Aslantepe Stadium (52,500), Istanbul, Turkey
like Valencia, U/C now!

17. Estadio do Corinthians (51,848), Sao Paulo, Brazil
maybe will be never built

18. Arena do Gremio (51,000), Porto Alegre, Brazil
possible WC 2014 stadium

19. Stade Borne de l'Espoir (50,186), Lille, France
i think its currently to expensive. so project could be changed

20. Shakhtar Stadium (50,000), Donetsk, Ukraine
nearly finished

21. Lansdowne Road (50,000), Dublin, Ireland
i would guess no problems

22. SwedBank Arena (50,000), Stockholm, Sweden
SwedBank confirmed its sponsorship for the stadium officially so there will be no problem in getting to work on schedule.

23. New Goodison (50,000), Liverpool, England
?

24. AEK Arena (50,000), Athens, Greece
?

25. Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium (48,000), Port Elizabeth, South Africa
WC 2010 stadium

26. Mbombela Stadium (46,000), Nelspruit, South Africa
WC 2010 stadium

27. Poznan Municipal Stadium (46,000), Poznan, Poland
EURO 2010 stadium

28. Recife Arena (45,500), Recife, Brazil
One of 18 venues presented to FIFA by Brazilian government at the time of bidding

29. Arena Zagallo (45,337), Maceio, Brazil
One of 18 venues presented to FIFA by Brazilian government at the time of bidding

30. Peter Mokaba Stadium (45,000), Polokwane, South Africa
WC 2010 stadium

31. Arena da Bahia (44,100), Salvador, Brazil
One of 18 venues presented to FIFA by Brazilian government at the time of bidding

32. Wroclaw Stadium (44,000), Wroclaw, Poland
EURO 2012 stadium

33. Baltic Arena (44,000), Gdansk, Poland
EURO 2012 stadium

34. Euro Stadium (42,700), Strasbourg, France
Main sponsor( or naming sponsor) is already fixed - Electricity company based in Strasbourg.

35. Votanikos Arena (42,000), Athens, Greece
Naming sponsorship process is underway. They have 2 companies shortlisted now. Construction is expected to start within the year and finish in 2010

36. New Besiktas Inonu Stadium (42,000), Istanbul, Turkey
waiting for permission

37. Spartak Stadium (42,000), Moscow, Russia
U/C Now! More than half finished

38. Estadio Nou Sarria (41,000), Barcelona, Spain
U/C Now! More than half finished

39. Sochi Olympic Park (40,000), Sochi, Russia - It will be turned into football arena post the 2014 Games
i would say no problems

40. Juventus Arena (40,000), Turin, Italy
Fiat B/D decided to build the arena(press release)

Dutch_Mentor

June 9th, 2008, 01:53 PM

Nou Mestalla :-)))

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=506222&page=73

Elensar77

June 9th, 2008, 02:50 PM

1- Valencia
2- Aslantepe :D

pompeyfan

June 18th, 2008, 07:40 AM

Does anyone have any pictures of this stadium? I've looked around on the internet, and can only find 5 or so, most which have massive watermarks on them. Does anyone have any more?

Just for those who don't know, this is the stadium in Doha, holds 16000 and is home to Al-Sadd FC

theespecialone

June 18th, 2008, 07:53 AM

its qatar's international homeground
neat, compact stadium with qatari music blaring throughout the game

www.sercan.de

June 18th, 2008, 10:42 AM

http://www.fussballtempel.net/afc/QAT/Al_Sadd.html

Wezza

June 18th, 2008, 11:05 AM

Apparently it was modelled on Old Trafford!!! :lol:

pompeyfan

June 18th, 2008, 12:41 PM

Apparently it was modelled on Old Trafford!!! :lol:

I think that was just some made-up story by Manchester United. Wouldn't be the first time they've done that this month!

theespecialone

June 19th, 2008, 11:45 AM

lots of stadiums were modelled on old trafford.

especially because of the way the stand wrapped around the corners and the fans' proximity to the pitch.

GNU

June 19th, 2008, 01:05 PM

Very interesting article that I found (Sorry its only in german)

Stadionarchitektur: Kathedralen für das Fernsehen

Er baut Fußballstadien, obwohl ihm die Verschandelung durch Werbung und Vip-Tribünen auf die Nerven geht. Deswegen mag er seine Bauwerke am liebsten leer.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/storage/scl/fotos/sport/216722_m1w590q80s1v57538.jpg
Marg entwarf viele Arenen für die WM 2006 und auch für die WM 2010 (Kaptstadt) und EM 2012 (Chorzow).

Der Profifußball ist heute Teil der modernen Unterhaltungsindustrie, des Kommunikationszeitalters. Bei den Griechen dienten große Sportveranstaltungen kultisch-paramilitärischen Zwecken zur Körperertüchtigung. Die römischen Imperatoren nutzten sie, um die Massen abzulenken und zu beschäftigen. Heute haben wir es beim Fußball mit kommerzialisierten Gladiatorenkämpfen zu tun, die nicht vorrangig für die Zuschauer im Stadion veranstaltet werden, obwohl sie Eintritt bezahlen, sondern für das Fernsehen, das den wesentlichen Profit bringt. Die Gleichung ist die: Masse = Quote = Werbeeinnahmen.

Die modernen Fußballstadien werden also weniger für die Fans bei den Spielen gebaut, sondern vielmehr für die Fernsehwerbung. Ohne ein kochendes Stadion bekommt man zu Hause auf der Couch kein authentisches Spielgefühl. Das Stadionpublikum wird zum Claqueur fürs Fernsehen, dessen Hintergrund die Bandenwerbung ist und dessen Gliederung die Einblendungen der Werbespots.

Schon immer hatten die Stadien den Zweck, Menschenmassen in einen Rausch zu versetzen. Das ist auch heute noch so. Trotz unserer Millionen Jahre zurückliegenden Abspaltung vom Tier sind wir im Grunde immer noch die alten Primaten. Und diese sind, wie alle Affen, natürlich Hordentiere. Das führt zu dem Phänomen, dass wir auch als rationale Menschen manchmal die gebremste Spontaneität freilassen wollen, die Besinnung verlieren möchten. Diese Triebabfuhr ist durchaus gesund und ein zutiefst menschliches Bedürfnis – da schließe auch ich mich überhaupt nicht aus. Der Aufschrei einzeln und im Kollektiv wirkt enthemmend und befreiend. Auch Soldaten lässt man beim Sturmangriff schreien, damit sie kollektiv ihren skeptischen kritischen Verstand ausschalten und in der Massenhysterie ihre Hemmungen verlieren. Wenn einen dabei die Strömung beim Bad in der Menge treibt, fühlt man sich mächtiger, als man es alleine wäre. Auch die Voyeure in den Logen und auf den „Business-Seats“, die sich für etwas Besseres halten, spüren das – allerdings ohne von der Plebs, von der sie sich distanzieren, angerempelt zu werden. Fein säuberlich abgetrennt von den anderen.

Beim Bau eines Profistadions für die kommerzialisierte Unterhaltung ist eine von der Vermarktung vorgegebene Segregation programmiert – und alle nehmen das inzwischen hin. Anders als in den früheren Volksstadien für öffentlichen Breitensport wird unterschieden zwischen Super-VIPs, VIPs, Businesskunden, Normalbesuchern und Fans. Die VIPs und Super-VIPs gehen ins Stadion, wie sie in die Oper gehen: um sich gegenseitig zu sehen. In den holzgetäfelten Logen begießen sie ihre Geselligkeit mit Sekt und stopfen sich am Buffet voll. Die Businesskunden müssen anstelle von Separees mit Lounges und Tresen vorliebnehmen, sie trinken aus Pappbechern im Stehen. Die Mehrheit, das ist die inszenierte Masse. Die soziale Entmischung im Stadion merkt man spätestens, wenn La Ola an der Ehrentribüne abstirbt.

Alle modernen Fußballarenen kann man als Hysterieschüsseln verstehen. Sie sind ähnlich konzipiert, um den synchronen Ur-Schrei zum kollektiven Ur-Erlebnis zu potenzieren. Sie sind eng, steil und haben ein Dach als Schalldeckel. In der Schalker Arena wirkt das extrem. Beim Umbau des Berliner Olympiastadions wollte ich beweisen, dass diese verdichtete Atmosphäre auch über die Distanz einer Leichtathletiklaufbahn in einem Universalstadion funktionieren kann. Früher ging der Schall komplett nach oben weg, heute bleibt er im Resonanzkörper des Stadions.

Beim Entwurf eines Stadions geht es in erster Linie um eine Massenchoreografie. Das beginnt bei der Ankunft. Das Berliner Olympiastadion zwang die Menschen 1936 zu einer monumentalen Prozession. Das Olympiagelände in München lud 1972 mit seiner Hügelbaulandschaft und seinen geschwungenen Dächern dazu ein, sich frei und beschwingt zu bewegen. Der Architekt kann also beeinflussen, in welcher Stimmung Menschen sein Stadion betreten.

Als Zweites ist da die Lenkung der Besucherströme in Bezug auf ihre Sicherheit. Betrete ich als Zuschauer ein Hochsicherheitsgefängnis voller Gatter und Zäune? Oder wird meine Sicherheit ganz unmerklich gewährleistet? Zäune finde ich abstoßend – die sind auch innerhalb eines Stadions so unerfreulich wie ein Zaun zwischen Nachbarn. Als Drittes stellt sich die Frage, wie die Orientierung inszeniert wird. Mein persönlicher Ehrgeiz ist, den Menschen sogleich einen Überblick zu verschaffen, sobald sie das Stadion betreten. Es gibt leider Stadien, in denen sie sich wie Herdenvieh durch Gatter und dunkle Gänge zu ihrem Sitzplatz tasten müssen. Ich finde das zutiefst entwürdigend. Man muss dem Besucher sinnvolle Ausblicke, Überblicke und auch Rückblicke geben. Dazu kommt schließlich auch die Inszenierung durch die Illumination, das hatten schon die Nazis mit Fackelläufen für das olympische Feuer und mit Lichtdomen rund um das Stadion erfunden. Heute haben wir das Flutlicht, das sich sogar dynamisch einsetzen lässt, wie zum Beispiel mit dem „Ring of Fire“ beim umgestalteten Olympiastadion.

Leider sind die Stadien inzwischen als Gebäude zu Werbeträgern reduziert worden. Die Werbeindustrie nutzt jede Mauer und mittlerweile sogar die Namen dafür. Das einstmals gemeinnützige Frankfurter Waldstadion heißt jetzt Commerzbank-Arena, Konrad Adenauers Kölner Stadion für den Breitensport ist nun das Rheinenergie-Stadion. In der Kultur ist es noch nicht ganz so weit. Stellen Sie sich vor, die Münchner Staatsoper hieße Siemens-Oper, oder es gäbe das Hamburger Hapag-Lloyd-Theater.

Wenn Sie jetzt sagen: Das ist doch schizophren, der Mann hat so viel Skepsis und baut trotzdem weiter Fußballstadien, dann sage ich: ja, trotzdem. Im Mittelalter gab es für Baumeister nichts Größeres, als eine Kathedrale zu bauen. Dieses überwältigende räumliche Ereignis! So geht es mir heute mit Stadien. Ich fühle mich wie ein Atheist, der eine Kathedrale bauen darf, denn ich liebe eigentlich leere Fußballstadien. Halb voll ist furchtbar, ganz leer oder ganz voll, so müssen sie sein!

Zurzeit baue ich mit unserem enthusiastischen Architektenteam drei Stadien für die WM 2010 in Südafrika und weitere zwei für die Europameisterschaft in Polen. Ich wünsche mir, dass die Sportbegeisterung nicht nur gut ist für die Unterhaltungsindustrie, sondern auch für die Völkerverständigung – wie bei der WM 2006 in Deutschland.

Volkwin Marg ist Mitbegründer des Architekturbüros Gerkan, Marg und Partner und hat unter anderem die WM-Stadien in Frankfurt am Main und Köln entworfen und das Berliner Olympiastadion umgestaltet.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/storage/pic/fotos/sport/216723_3_volkwinklein.JPG
Greenpoint Stadium, Cape Town

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/sport/EM-2008-Volkwin-Marg-Stadionarchitektur;art17481,2550380

Carrerra

June 20th, 2008, 04:29 AM

Maybe is there anyone who knows what's going on in this stadium?

The wall stadium, Qatar

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2589099602_6a710274db_o.jpg

Big Texan

June 20th, 2008, 05:28 AM

very green.

en1044

June 20th, 2008, 05:40 AM

Maybe is there anyone who knows what's going on in this stadium?

The wall stadium, Qatar

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2589099602_6a710274db_o.jpg

seems like a waste of money

www.sercan.de

June 20th, 2008, 10:08 AM

I stillwait for a 100k stadium from the arabs.
Worlds everthing tallest and biggest in there
Why not worlds biggest stadium?

Carrerra, you can pm him ;)

GNU

June 20th, 2008, 12:42 PM

@Carrera: Interesting find. But thats a rather strange design.

I stillwait for a 100k stadium from the arabs.
Worlds everthing tallest and biggest in there
Why not worlds biggest stadium?

Not enough people and no big sports culture.
Would be great though. Maybe theyll get something done in Dubai just to attract a big international sporting event.

dudu24

June 25th, 2008, 03:13 PM

New "Aldo Drozina" stadium, home of NK Istra Pula, nothing special but its nice stadium for club of their size. Tho at the end they decided to add roof on east stand as well :)

http://regionalexpress.hr/images/uploads/AldoDrozdina15.jpg
http://regionalexpress.hr/images/uploads/AldoDrozdina04.jpg
http://regionalexpress.hr/images/uploads/AldoDrozdina03.jpg
http://www.barkun.hr/gallery/albums/userpics/no%C4%87na.jpg

matthemod

June 25th, 2008, 04:07 PM

That's a pretty tidy stadium. What's the capacity? Also what division/average attendance do NK Istra Pula get?

dudu24

June 25th, 2008, 05:23 PM

Capacity is 10k, they are currently in second division but its very traditional club with good fanbase, average attendance is around 3k (thats about the capacity of their current ground, i guess its lower now in second division) but that will rise i guess with new stadium and promotion to 1st league which is very likely to happen this season.

Carrerra

June 25th, 2008, 06:04 PM

Fit for pre-season games? Wow the recovery is incredibly fast!

Carrerra

June 28th, 2008, 04:45 PM

Future homeground of Incheon Utd which plays in K-League(Top professional division in South Korea). The anena will have the capacity of 20,000 with future expansion up to 22,000 and is under construction now, due to be completed in 2010. Construction began on the 13th of this month with explosive demolition of old Soongeui Stadium which was built in 1934. In fact Soongeui Arena is a part of Soongeui redevelopment plan in Incheon. As you guess in the renderings, besides football arena, the project includes housing and commercial complexes which are represented by 3 high rise buildings with 47, 51, 52 stories each, on the total plot of 90,127 squre meters.

On one end of the stadium there is no wall so that it's open to citizens for tour and recreation in non-match days. As you see in the overviews, the project will be executed so compactly in space that there is practically no room for expansion except on one behind-goal side of the arena and that's why the stadum cannot help having so small expansion(2K) in the future. Soongeui Arena is scheduled to be augurated in 2010 but the whole project, taking 3 more years, will be completed in 2013.

[Rendering]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2617376309_d404147f36_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2618200282_83dd4535c0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/2617377317_f35e652f90_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2618199816_16e2eb42f4_b.jpg

[Present home of Incheon Utd]

Incheon Worldcup Stadium. As you guess from the name, it is one of ten 2002 Worldcup stadiums on Korean side. It will be used for special or big matches since the completion of the new arena in 2010.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2616388928_2070407f55_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2616388776_4bf701830b_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/2616389096_005412d149_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2615560801_3463962ae7_o.jpg

[old Soongeui Stadium which is now gone away]

Built in 1934, the stadium had 25,000 seats and 35,000 capacity including up to 10,000 standing spectators. As you can guess in the first picture, in fact the stadium was a part of Soongeui sports complex including baseball stadium and gymnasium. The gym and the baseball stadium will be knocked down in upcoming September and October of this year respectively, in conventional demolition method using cranes and excavators. Fyi, substitues for soon-to-be-demolished gym and baseball stadium has already been built and used by other professional sport clubs based in Incheon from many years ago.

http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_k&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d46a76470d345178ad14d101fbd63e6b055ab12274a5998fcd1062f9e03d4da1c2b467249aec9953ed706e7bac28edecf349b6d2e540e2616c2e8fe7cef532&f_no=a1551daa182ab273a2332870479f2e2dce

http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_k&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d46a76470d345178ad14d101fbd63e6b055ab12274a5998fcd1337f4b16f49f6c0b467249aec9953ed8de3a49349da3aa96599af468a623e65a03b49d7f6dc&f_no=a1551daa182ab273a2332870449f0e0d26

http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_k&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d46a76470d345178ad14d101fbd63e6b055ab12274a5998fcd4130feb13e1ba1c3b467249aec9953ed82fec6bc451c0db1c7cfeb7fa0f7c9a37f3db31b41b7&f_no=a1551daa182ab273a2332870459f2e2d99

http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_k&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d46a76470d345178ad14d101fbd63e6b055ab12274a5998fcd1231faec681ef7cbb467249aec9953ed30b650105dca7bb26f53d464aca40afcb103f7369381&f_no=a1551daa182ab273a2332870429f2e2d75

As I said before, demolition of the old stadum occurred in 13th June 2008, using 20Kg explosives and 490 detonators and the stadium said goodbye to the world in just 5 seconds.

http://img2.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=football_k&no=29bcc427b48677a16fb3dab004c86b6f9a697bf10be2d1d46a76470d345178ad14d101fbd63e6b055ab12274a5998fcd1236ffe0694ba1c4b467249aec9953ed91f6f89aab5ff2e3b2be7c432fc639e1eb7c2ae98ecf892d8722d374188bdc4c97697e567a616b415364bb5f6361b808108483&f_no=a1551daa182ab4709b3503799a2fe1b65da123a42aafa217be6e6a20019423

berkshire royal

June 29th, 2008, 04:21 PM

^^
That stadium is beautiful very impressive and a good size for a k league side it’s a shame that after the WC stadiums capacities were left so high as plain and simply stadiums of 40,000+ are too big. Many of them should have been refitted such as what they did to the Kobe wing stadium. Does anyone know why so many stadiums were left with capacities so high?
Also does anyone know what or have seen pictures on what Bayer Leverkusen are going to do with the stand behind the goal that has 2 tiers of exec boxes? For some reason I really like this stand for me it is a distinctive feature of Bayer Leverkusen.

Carrerra

June 29th, 2008, 04:52 PM

Here is the only case in Korean side you would be happy about. Jeju Worldcup Stadium. During 2002 WC it had the capacity of 42,000, including hemisphere temporary stand with approximately 8,000 seats on the second tier of east stand. Of course, after the tournament, they were moved to other small stadium in 2004. So, the current capacity of Jeju Worldcup Stadium is 34,000

(Past)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2611175548_d185c4a55d_o.jpg

(Present)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2610342355_1ebe3766f6_o.jpg

(The stadium to which temporary seats are moved)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2611175102_cf85ee0023_o.jpg

GNU

June 29th, 2008, 05:04 PM

Thats a shame that theyve taken that stand down. Ok, they might not need it but I usually oppose reduction works on new stadiums. (even though that was just a temporary stand)
Maybe they should have just left it empty for the time being.

Carrerra

June 29th, 2008, 05:23 PM

GNU, we have a good reason for Jeju Worldcup Stadium to be the only case in Korea where original capacity was reduced. Although the official name is Jeju Worldcup Stadium, it's located in a small city of Seogwipo with only 150,000 population in Jeju Province. In addition to it, Seogwipo is so far away, about 1.5 hour drive, from Jeju City the main city of the province which has the population of 300,000.

In conclusion, they have to turn solely on 150,000 people to fill the stadium and this is almost impossible in Korea where football fanbase and their loyalty are not as strong as in Europe. To be honest, I think, they would also have many troubles filling 42K stadium with 150K population in Europe.

GNU

July 1st, 2008, 02:29 PM

^^ Probably, although there examples where it has worked. (Kaiserslautern for instance)
Still a shame though just from an architectural viewpoint to downsize a stadium.

Carrerra

July 1st, 2008, 04:13 PM

Hosting Euro 2012 develops other sports arenas (and hopefully their economy) as well as football stadiums. Very good!

krzysiu_

July 1st, 2008, 05:47 PM

michał_

July 2nd, 2008, 01:06 AM

Well, construction of 3 main E2012 stadiums (Gdansk, Wroclaw, Warszawa) will begin in the end of this year. Now they are finishing projects and deciding whos gonna build these stadiums...Everything's going fine...Slowly but fine..

I don't think so. If the construction tender ends in mid-April, how can construction start several months before?

dande

July 13th, 2008, 10:02 PM

Is it up to the people or the venue to create the best atmosphere for sporting, music or other events?
As far as my country, Sweden, and our Scandinavian neighbours go I can say that as far as concert crowds go Sweden is by far the best. One of the best and knowledgeable. Danes at Parken tend to be rather reserved, norwegians at Valle Hovin aswell. But I think, the venue contributes to that a lot by being essentially non-existing, so to speak. I have seen a lot of rock acts at Ullevi and despite being really outdated, rather dull looking stadium it always inspires people and the artists. The old Wembly was also one of those places, MSG too.

nayki

July 14th, 2008, 04:45 AM

Shoe Mart (SM) Arena - Mall of Asia Complex, Pasay city, Metro Manila, Philippines

SM Arena

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/SMArena-MallofAsiaPhilippines.jpg?t=1216002445

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/SMArena-MallofAsiaPhilippines2.jpg?t=1216002562

SM Arena at the lower left of Mall of Asia Complex

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/MallofAsiaComplexPhilippines.jpg?t=1216002631

(another angle) SM Arena at the upper right of Mall of Asia Complex with Manila Bay below

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/MallofAsiaComplexPhilippines2.jpg?t=1216002662

nayki

July 14th, 2008, 04:53 AM

A 12,000 - SEAT ARENA WITH FACILITIES FOR LUXURY SUITES AND RETAIL FACILITIES ON A 206,000 SF (19,160M2) SITE WITHIN A NEW CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IN SOUTHWEST METRO MANILA DESIGNED BY ARQUITECTONICA

www.sercan.de

July 14th, 2008, 12:00 PM

is 12k the basketball capacity or concert capacity

erbse

July 14th, 2008, 12:07 PM

SM Arena? Jeez, I had no clue they even build stadiums for that 'sport' :hilarious

GunnerJacket

July 15th, 2008, 12:02 AM

IMO, it is a combination of places, people and culture.

Any place has a responsibility to fulfill its function, and to a degree that should include inspiration of the participant. Churches and opera houses are a classic example of this ideology. True, particularly in the day and age where money has a greater influence over design, sometimes there is but a minimum of inspiration. The issue today as it applies to sporting facilities is clarifying the difference between inspiring the fan and simply having fan-friendly environments. Nice seats, banners and spacious gift shops are nice, but they don't necessarily increase the fans investment (IMO). This is why many die-hards favor tighter stands with steeper angles, literally bringing them closer to the game and raising the value of their participation.

But people and culture play a huge part as well. Many a dull, unoriginal stadia can be brought to life via the crowd by sheer will, assuming the audience takes that mission to heart. Juve's facility is less than inspiring but arguably their crowd and create quite the din for a big game. Thus, the architecture will often respond to this. Not as much is needed to inspire a college football fan, for instance, but baseball fans tend to be more fickle. I'd say that almost any stadium could be energized if it had a standing-only section, and that could in turn create a more self-inspired audience.

So I would answer your question by saying "Architecture is supposed to inspire its participants to the height of its intended purpose, but it's up to the people and the culture to act out that inspiration as they feel compelled." Even the most passionate fan will sit on their hands if everyone else in their section is doing the same.

rover3

July 15th, 2008, 02:06 AM

SM Arena? Jeez, I had no clue they even build stadiums for that 'sport' :hilarious

I think you mean S "&" M. SM doesn't quite cut it. :)

dande

July 15th, 2008, 02:33 PM

I think Alain de Botton has writte a book about architecture and people during the centuries.

WeimieLvr

July 16th, 2008, 03:07 AM

One of my favorite venues for live music, Chastain Park Amphitheater in Atlanta:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/31456900_a4bfc63efc.jpg?v=0http://farm1.static.flickr.com/138/326102219_24ea38887a.jpg?v=0
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iveyb/31456900/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/louisbustin/326102219/

Chastain is considered a very classy venue. It is set up with tables for patrons to bring a picnic, and there is a grassy area in back where the tickets are less expensive. Many people bring elaborate table decor - there is usually a contest for best table.

The acoustics are excellent, but the crowd varies from show to show depending on the style music. Performers range from Jill Scott to Santana to Atlanta Symphony to Patti Labelle to John Mayer to Morrissey to Black Eyed Peas - various types of crowds with different energy.

theespecialone

July 16th, 2008, 04:37 AM

places with history i.e old trafford, wembley, nou camp, san siro

en1044

July 16th, 2008, 09:09 AM

i think its the people. It doesnt matter in the long run IMO, if you are a true fan and care about whatever sport is being played it shouldnt matter. Architecture and history are nice, but the play on the field is what counts.

dudu24

September 19th, 2008, 10:14 AM

http://www.mucic.hr/images/STADION_DUGOPOLJE/Dugopolje%20final%2001.jpg
http://www.mucic.hr/images/STADION_DUGOPOLJE/Dugopolje-final-05.jpg

Small but nice place in Dugopolje (near Split, currently in third division).

Capacity is 5k. All seats are covered with roof.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5/Imota_2008/P1010029-2.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5/Imota_2008/P1010033-2.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5/Imota_2008/P1010039-1.jpg

Tnx to Imota for pics!

GNU

October 2nd, 2008, 01:53 PM

One of the two stadiums currently uc in Luanda, Angola for the 2010 African Nations Cup. It will have a cap of 50k.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m69/topstar_01/Stadium1.jpg
http://www.suakay.com/portfolio/sport_leisure/05_estadio_luanda/images_roll/00.jpg

hkskyline

October 21st, 2008, 04:26 AM

FEATURE-Afghan soccer field haunted by Taliban executions

KABUL, Sept 13 (Reuters) - The grass has grown in Kabul's soccer stadium where the Taliban used to stage public executions, but few Afghans dare visit in the evenings, believing that the souls of the victims still roam the sprawling grounds.

"Too much blood has flown here," says Mohammad Nasim as he mowed the lush green grass in the stadium under a warm afternoon sun, a little oasis ringed by brown hills away from the bustle of the street.

The goalposts, where the black-turbaned Taliban used to force convicts to kneel before executing them or from which they hung the severed arms or legs of thieves for all to see, have been given a fresh coat of white paint.

New portraits of Afghanistan's leaders, including late King Zahir Shah, President Hamid Karzai, anti-Taliban hero Ahmad Shah Masood and the country's latest star, Olympic taekwondo bronze medallist Rohallah Nikpai, hang from the empty stands.

The Afghanistan Olympic Committee has set up its office in the stadium's red building and there are pictures of Nikpai, the country's first Olympic medal winner, being feted.

But try as they might, few Afghans can put behind them the brutality of the Taliban years when men, and sometimes cowering women in their pale blue, all-enveloping burqas, were brought into the stadium to be either stoned or shot dead at close range.

Others had limbs amputated for crimes ranging from robbery to adultery and murder.

The stands would be full of people, including children, either coming of their own volition or brought in to witness how the Taliban enforced its version of justice.

"Now nobody comes here in the evening, even we don't go inside," says Nabeel Qari, a young guard at the entrance to the stadium. "Everyone believes the place is haunted, that the souls of the dead people are not at rest even now."

BODIES FLUNG INTO VANS

The Taliban also executed convicts in a huge open ground across the street from the stadium, where they would bring them in the back of open-topped vans, shoot them in the head at close range and fling the bodies back in the vans.

Nasim said he saw two of his relatives shot dead and another hanged in the soccer stadium for possessing arms that a Taliban court concluded in a summary trial were intended to be used against them.

He remembers people streaming into the stadium to watch the executions. It was usually over within minutes, with the men lined up near the soccer field's penalty spot and shot, blood oozing out as they slumped to the ground.

Some people shouted Allahu Akbar (God is Greatest) from the stands as they watched.

"My relatives were innocent, like so many others who died here," Nasim said.

So much blood has been spilled on the football field and seeped into the soil below that Nasim says a previous attempt to grow grass there failed.

Then the Afghan government asked the company that he worked for to redevelop the stadium in a project costing about $50,000. The soil was dug up to a depth of half a metre and replaced.

"We put a new layer of soil so that players would not be stepping on to the blood of so many people," Nasim said.

Last month his team worked overtime to make sure the grass was freshly watered and the stadium spruced up for taekwondo star Nikpai's welcome party.

"We are working hard to ensure this again becomes a good place for sports," Nasim says.

Wezza

October 21st, 2008, 11:06 AM

Sounds like a huge project.....

hendrix83

October 27th, 2008, 12:46 AM

Any renderings of those last three stadiums you mentioned?

Yes check them out....

Chivas omnilife stadium - under construction -

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/guadalajara_chivas2.jpg

Cali stadium - almost done

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/cali_deportivo.jpg

Peñarol project - no construction date yet -

http://elcorresponsal.blogia.com/upload/20080701155859-proyecto-estadio-penarol.jpg

New Costa Rican National stadium - construction starts in November 2008, final date may 2010

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3797/estadiobn4.jpg

http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/abril/29/_Img/1983933_0.jpg

JYDA

October 27th, 2008, 03:49 PM

Well hopefully Costa Rica can start playing their games in the national stadium when it's finished and get off that horrific concrete plastic pitch at Saprissa.

lpioe

October 27th, 2008, 05:40 PM

I read in the newspaper today that Palestine had their first game in their new national stadium with 7'000 seats last weekend.
Anyone has pics of it?

bing222

October 28th, 2008, 08:16 AM

Any webcams yet?

ccfc-4-life

November 3rd, 2008, 04:27 PM

What is the smallest town / city you can think of with more than one sports team of the same sport and what stadiums do they play in?

(For example, London has many football (soccer) clubs, but of course this city is very big)

Patrick

November 3rd, 2008, 04:42 PM

my home village used to have 2 different football clubs some years ago (population around 2500 inh. at that time), of course each club with its own ground. but I think there are smaller villages with the same.

oh, you said "teams", ok, there is the A-team of the one club, and then the B-team and so on :D

in Germany, the cities with 2 or more football TEAMS in the first three divisions are:

Frankfurt:
1. BL: SG Eintracht Frankfurt
2. BL: FSV Frankfurt

Stuttgart:
1. BL: VfB Stuttgart
3. BL: SV Stuttgarter Kickers
3. BL: VfB Stuttgart II

München:
1. BL: FC Bayern München
2. BL: TSV 1860 München
3. BL: FC Bayern München II

Bremen:
1. BL: SV Werder Bremen
3. BL: SV Werder Bremen II

Hamburg:
1. BL: Hamburger SV
2. BL: FC Sankt Pauli

Berlin:
1. BL: Hertha BSC Berlin
3. BL: 1. FC Union Berlin

but these are all cities bigger than 500.000 inhabitants.

London maybe is comparable with the entire Rhein-Ruhr-Area in terms of population:
1. BL: TSV Bayer 04 Leverkusen
1. BL: FC Schalke 04
1. BL: BV Borussia Dortmund 09
1. BL: 1. FC Köln
1. BL: VfL Bochum
1. BL: VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach
2. BL: MSV Duisburg
2. BL: TSV Alemannia Aachen
2. BL: SC Rot-Weiß Oberhausen
3. BL: TuS Fortuna Düsseldorf 95
3. BL: Wuppertaler SV Borussia

www.sercan.de

November 3rd, 2008, 05:31 PM

Sorry, this is more about sports club and not stadiums or arenas.

Benjuk

November 4th, 2008, 08:13 AM

To re-tool a closed thread... What's the smallest town/city to have 2 or more stadia.

Example:
Dundee, population 141k.
Stadiums - Tannadice Park (14k) home of Dundee Utd,
Dens Park (12k) home of Dundee FC
(trivia - the two stadiums are on the same street and are only 5 mins walk apart)

Chimaera

November 4th, 2008, 12:17 PM

It all depends. Do you want stadiums used by top division clubs? Or do you mean "decent" stadiums? +10k? Because I can think of a bunch of smaller cities/towns (pop. <100k) in Belgium that have more than one stadium, but often they are really small and/or are used by a team playing in the lower divisions.

Mechelen: population 79k. Stadiums: Veolia Stadion (KV Mechelen, first division), 14,1k (4,7k seated); Oscar Van Kesbeek Stadion (RC Mechelen, third division), 13,7k (1,9k seated)

Lier: population 33k. Stadiums: Herman Vanderpoorten Stadion (SK Lierse, second division), 14,5k (10,2k seated); Lyra Stadion (K. Lyra TSV, fourth division), 6k (1,7k seated)

Sint-Niklaas: population 70k. Stadiums: Puyenbeke Stadion (Red Star Waasland, second division), 6k (1,7k seated); Stedelijk Sportcentrum (FCN Sint-Niklaas, third division), 2-3k

Waregem: population 36k. Stadiums: Regenboogstadion (Zulte-Waregem, first division), 8,5k (will get an expansion and facelift in the near future); Mirakelstadion (RC Waregem, third division), 3k.

Roeselare: population 56k. Stadiums: Schiervelde (SV Roeselare, first division), 9,6k; Rodenbachstadion (FC Roeselare, third division), capacity?

Oostende (pop. 69k) also had two stadiums, but the smaller one was recently demolished.

I could go on (after some research though)...

mavn

November 4th, 2008, 02:11 PM

Heerenveen, the Netherlands

Population: 28.479

Abe Lenstra Stadion: 26.800 (1000 standing) (capacity will go towards 44000 in the near future)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Abe_Lenstra_Stadion_pano_03m.jpg/1000px-Abe_Lenstra_Stadion_pano_03m.jpg

"Thialf" (speed skating) 10.750

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/netherlands/heerenveen_thialf2.jpg

cinosanap

November 4th, 2008, 02:58 PM

(trivia - the two stadiums are on the same street and are only 5 mins walk apart)

They're barely 30seconds apart!

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/scotland/dundee_dens_park.jpg

bongo-anders

November 4th, 2008, 09:16 PM

Køge in Denmark, population 40.000.

Køge stadium 10.000 (800 seats) :)

http://www.stadions.dk/koge.asp

Herfølge stadium 7.500 (3.500 seats) :ohno:

http://www.stadions.dk/herfolge2.asp

Alx-D

November 5th, 2008, 12:45 AM

You guys should use a formula like: Total capacity of the multiple stadia / population

Benjuk

November 5th, 2008, 12:54 PM

They're barely 30seconds apart!

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/scotland/dundee_dens_park.jpg

I walk slow after a few pints.

BeestonLad

November 6th, 2008, 12:11 AM

Nottingham doesnt do too bad, population circa 280k.

City Ground 30,600
http://www.flightcrewshop.com/cityground12.jpg
http://www.u-reds.com/images/trent_end.jpg

Meadow Lane 20,300
http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/92310750-B17F-4727-AA0A-759EA34FD39C/121025/NottsCounty_MeadowLane_L1.jpg
http://img.skysports.com/08/07/480/Notts-County--Meadow-Lane-General_1068494.jpg

Trent Bridge 17,500
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/78000/78021.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/20080617/12/1496103507-cricket-third-npower-test-match-day-england-v-new-zealand.jpg

National Ice Centre 6,500-10,000
http://www.latemeetings.com/images/Venue/nottingham-arena-exterior.jpg
http://www.theverve.co.uk/assets/media_images/cache/Nottingham-Arena_470x383.gif

Nottingham Tennis Centre 3,000 ish
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/1569558.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A623A44B6543C4724F9930FDCFC4C15FBB

berkshire royal

November 9th, 2008, 10:54 PM

You´re right! But it should be good enough for La Segunda...
I Think also that it is a shame that this is the final design, if you look at their current stadium, it´s original and you recodnize it directly.
When you´ll see this stadium, you would think Bayern is playing Alaves for some kind of reason...

I agree completely. It really is annoying me that architechts play it so safe with their interior stadium designs, they seem to think that the only thing that can be unique and original is the exterior + roof. I really cannot understand why it is so hard for the people at HOK, HKS, Miller Partenership etc. to come up with something that is unique on the interior rather then the exterior. I mean for goodness sake who cares what the outside, last time I checked the sport was played on grass with four stands around the pitch not behind a pretty office block. :ohno:

GunnerJacket

November 10th, 2008, 09:22 PM

Just to play devil's advocate...
I Think also that it is a shame that this is the final design, if you look at their current stadium, it´s original and you recodnize it directly.However, being original doesn't equate to being better or highly functional. Ask those who criticize Atlanta's Olympic stadium, for example.
It really is annoying me that architects play it so safe with their interior stadium designs, they seem to think that the only thing that can be unique and original is the exterior + roof. I really cannot understand why it is so hard for the people at HOK, HKS, Miller Partenership etc. to come up with something that is unique on the interior rather then the exterior. To be fair, it's more often the clients "fault." Either they don't ask for it or they don't want to pay for it. Few, if any, architects want to play it safe but they're under the guidance of those paying the check.

berkshire royal

November 10th, 2008, 11:31 PM

To be fair, it's more often the clients "fault." Either they don't ask for it or they don't want to pay for it. Few, if any, architects want to play it safe but they're under the guidance of those paying the check.

Sadly you are right, the clubs put no emphasis what so ever on stadium design + originality, the funny thing is every time one of these copies open's they self pro-claim to be hugely impressive and the best new stadium built. The annoying thing is that when clubs do put the effort in they generally get something extremely impressive, but sadly people are very conservative and generally these stadium’s never get built so I don’t blame clubs for going down the quick and easy route I just wish It didn’t have to be that way.

I understand clubs have financial constraints and believe me I'm not expecting every stadium to be a masterpiece, but I do believe many of these clubs + architects could put in a greater effort into producing something functional, original + quality. At the moment they are not doing that and this stadium definitely falls into that category.

Genç

November 12th, 2008, 12:32 AM

Maybe is there anyone who knows what's going on in this stadium?

The wall stadium, Qatar

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2589099602_6a710274db_o.jpg

Woooow what an inspiring design! I was dreaming of something like 200,000 capacity to suit a design as extraordinary as this.

But the planned capacity is just 11,000!

More info and pics:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2752267475_242a172703_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/2753101652_f57439a23f_o.jpg

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The World's First Underground Stadium

If all goes to plan, ‘The Wall’ stadium in Doha, Qatar’s capital city, will claim two firsts: The world’s first underground stadium and the world’s first open-air, air-conditioned stadium. There’s a long way to go however and the stadium is not due to be completed untl 2010 at the earliest, however if the finished product looks anything like the plans released by MZ & Partners Architects then paying spectators are in for a treat.

After looking at the stadium from above you can immediately see why The Wall has already gained the nickname ‘The Laptop’. The stadium’s main stand sits upright, the majority of its height emerging from the underground pitch as if having been lifted opened by an enormous referee. There will be no traditional floodlights, a feature the architects seem to be quite proud of, as all lights will be embedded within the surrounding architecture, adding to the stadium’s mystical feel.

So why underground? Obviously it’s a great coup to have the world’s first underground stadium but there’s one invaluable benefit, especially in a climate such as Qatar’s: temperature control. A subterranean stadium should ensure that the pitch and its spectators retain a cool, bearable atmosphere naturally without the need to spend millions of pounds on air-conditioning.

The stadium is apparently part of Doha’s forthcoming bid to host the 2018 World Cup and if the location was decided purely down to stadium architecture, they may have a chance. The one concern? The Wall will only be able to seat 11′000 people.

http://fantasyfootball.timesonline.co.uk/worlds-first-underground-stadium

EDIT: sorry if all this info was a total repost btw :D :nuts:

Carrerra

November 12th, 2008, 01:09 AM

What's the meaning of the placard in the third picture?

staff

November 18th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Malmö Stadion, November 17;

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/3040919967_b630448592_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/3041761768_271dfc7349_o.jpg

Bonus (restroom view);
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/3040920169_11d9875f50_o.jpg

KingmanIII

November 18th, 2008, 08:16 PM

Bonus (restroom view);
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/3040920169_11d9875f50_o.jpg

Now that's sharp thinking! :okay:

Neda Say

November 19th, 2008, 07:47 PM

Now that's sharp thinking! :okay:

Yes it really is no more missing a goal because one had too much beer!:cheers:

Aka

November 19th, 2008, 10:19 PM

But imagine their team scores exactly at that moment...

KingmanIII

November 21st, 2008, 06:16 PM

But imagine their team scores exactly at that moment...

"I missed." (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7d3FlHZOY)

Alle

November 21st, 2008, 06:24 PM

There is no way Qatar can get a WC on their own, maybe together with the other emirates.

Aiwa

January 6th, 2009, 10:32 AM

Darius & Girenas stadium is an oldest stadium in Lithuania built in 1921 and looked like this:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4058/scan10001ng6.jpg
Then it was reconstructed in 1979 where wooden tribunes were replaced with reinforced concrete structures and placed in a half circle with a capacity of 12 000.After the independence it was reconstructed again several times, plastic seats were added, capacity reduced to 8,500. On the last reconstruction some seats were added and now stadium has 9,180 seats, ad currently looks like this:
http://www.sportohale.lt/images/foto/foto_1.jpg
http://www.sport1.lt/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sirgaliai.jpg
And some years ago (2007) a project of reconstruction was proposed by “UBIG” company, which owns a local soccer team “FBK Kaunas”. This project would add tribunes on all sides, roof, underground parking and a hotel near the complex. The capacity of the stadium would grew up to 14,000 seats and the stadium it self would look like this:
http://g.delfi.lt/images/pix/file14228755_stadikas3_b.gif
http://g.delfi.lt/images/pix/file14228734_stadikas1_b.gif
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cholo3pa

January 7th, 2009, 05:44 PM

Buf, I don't like the stadiums with athletism track

BosniaHerzegovina

January 24th, 2009, 01:34 PM

Zenicka Arena

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Zenica_panorama.jpg

Zenica: Population
- Total 127,334 (estimate June 30, 2007)

BosniaHerzegovina

January 24th, 2009, 01:36 PM

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BosniaHerzegovina

January 24th, 2009, 01:42 PM

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SpicyMcHaggis

February 4th, 2009, 10:53 PM

So.. as it seems we will get another arena :)

This project has been given green light by our prime minister:

http://www.d-a-z.hr/ostalo/natjecaji/zagreb-rukometni-svetice/rukomentni_dom-1nagrada-3.jpg

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http://www.d-a-z.hr/ostalo/natjecaji/zagreb-rukometni-svetice/rukomentni_dom-1nagrada-4.jpg

Location they are talking about is next to Arena Zagreb

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(where those cars are now)

"ZukiChirO"

February 8th, 2009, 11:50 AM

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Laos National Sports Complex for the 25th SEA Games 2009

The US$70 million, Chinese government funded, Laos National Sports Complex will be completed by March 2009, for the Laos 25th SEA Games, to be held in Vientiane and two other cities in Laos, in December 2009.

The Laos National Sports Complex is located about 20 Km from the centre of Vientiane City and comprises a 20,000 seating capacity main stadium, a 2,000 seating capacity indoor aquatics complex, with a outdoor warm-up pool, a Tennis centre consisting of 2,000 seating capacity centre court plus 6 other tennis court, two indoor stadia each with seating capacity of 3,000 and a indoor shooting range with 50 seats. There is however no facilities for skeet and trap events in the shooting range. Whether the equipment for skeet and trap will be added later is uncertain.

The sports complex is in a sprawling 185 ha site, with an Olympic Park, adequate parking lots, lakes and open spaces. An archery centre could be constructed in the open space next to the shooting range. There is adequate space for a trap and skeet range to be added later, if required.

Construction work started from October 2008 and the sports complex is now about 50% complete. Work was delayed due to the massive flooding in August. The work force comprises around 1,400 workers from China and around 400 local Laotians. The estimated cost is expected to increase due to global increase in material, fuel and food prices and last month’s flooding. Provision of the competition surfaces, such as the running track for athletics, and other sports and sports equipment has not commenced.^^

"ZukiChirO"

February 8th, 2009, 12:00 PM

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bing222

February 11th, 2009, 09:10 AM

Great photos

the spliff fairy

February 13th, 2009, 09:52 PM

Kiaohsiung International Stadium, 100% solar powered, Taiwan

almost done!! someone's flickr site:

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alot more photos here in arthurchengjca's flickr album:

http://flickr.com/photos/35328700@N00/page9/

Cubo99

February 27th, 2009, 06:54 PM

MFK Košice
SLOVAKIA First League

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Capacity: 19,300
Start of construction: November 09

lpioe

February 28th, 2009, 11:23 AM

Exterior looks great, certainly one of the best for a stadium of this size.
Are there any interior shots?

m_m

February 28th, 2009, 12:10 PM

It's a really good project. It reminds me a little bit a project of stadium in Bialystok in Poland.

Dequal

February 28th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Looks great! Indeed missing some interior shots and details of the hotel.

Cubo99

February 28th, 2009, 07:15 PM

sry, currently I havent any other pictures...

Timbu

March 8th, 2009, 05:18 PM

Arena Recife better images - World cup city

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hkskyline

March 19th, 2009, 06:11 PM

ANALYSIS-Cricket-Unloved Antigua stadium faces uncertain future

ST JOHN'S, Antigua, Feb 14 (Reuters) - After the farcical scenes that led to Friday's second test between West Indies and England being abandoned, the Sir Vivian Richards Stadium is in danger of becoming a very young white elephant.

Unloved, unused and, at the moment, unfit for international cricket, the venue faces an uncertain future after hosting just one full test match and another that lasted only 10 balls due to unsuitable field conditions.

Antigua risks losing the chance to host test matches until it gets a field and stadium that is up to scratch and wins back the confidence of organisers and officials -- a blow to tourism and another setback in attempts to revive the popularity of the game on the island.

"I would recommend they play soccer there from now on. The amount of funding it would take to make that into a test venue again will be significant," West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) chief executive Donald Peters told the BBC.

"The West Indies Cricket Board will not go back to the Viv Richards Stadium. We are not prepared to take the risk." The ground is just two years old, cost an estimated $60 million -- mainly from Chinese investment -- to build and has hosted six one-day games at the World Cup in 2007, a test match against Australia last year and a few minutes play on Friday.

On Sunday, after hasty re-arrangements, a new test will be played at the traditional home of cricket on this small island, the decaying Antigua Recreation Ground, where most local fans wish the game had stayed.

Whatever the success or otherwise of the rescheduled game at the 'Rec' it is possible the International Cricket Council (ICC) will remove test status from the Viv Richards ground.

"The ultimate measure we can adopt is the sanction of the accreditation of a venue and that is what is at risk for this ground," said ICC chief executive Haroon Lorgat, adding that fines and suspension from use for tests could precede such a decision.

Even if the ICC did not take any action, it is hard to imagine the West Indies choosing to risk another game at the ground in the near future.

EXPENSIVE PLANS

England fans, forced to rejig expensive travel plans or miss the final two days of the re-arranged test, were left asking how a match was allowed to start with a sandy outfield described on Friday as 'unfit and dangerous' by match referee Alan Hurst.

One of the central problems afflicting many areas of cricket in the Caribbean is that West Indies are made up of independent nations and each has a strong degree of autonomy despite the existence of the central WICB.

It was therefore no surprise that WICB president Julian Hunte explained the mess-up by citing the advice he had received from the Antiguans.

"We did not move the test match because we were given assurances that the outfield and the facilities were in good order," he told reporters while accepting that the WICB had "ultimate responsibility".

The farcical scenes on Friday, with groundstaff taking out shovels to dig up the sandy run-ups, was another body blow for the image of West Indies cricket.

The World Cup in 2007, which should have been a carnival of Caribbean cricket, disappointed many with poor crowds and little atmosphere due to overpriced tickets and unpopular restrictions on fan behaviour.

The West Indies team, once treasured as the most entertaining in the world, have faded in the past decade.

Last week's innings victory over England in Kingston, Jamaica indicated that a revival could at last be under way to the delight of many fans over the world.

Less than a week later, though, West Indian cricket looked a shambolic mess once again.

"The Antigua Cricket Association have dropped the ball and should be ashamed of themselves," said West Indies great Viv Richards, whose name adorns the stadium.

"This is not a shot in the foot for West Indies cricket, this is an arrow right through the heart."

mud777

March 22nd, 2009, 08:22 PM

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The Sports Park Stožice integrates a football stadium and a multi-purpose sports hall with a big shopping centre, covered by the artificial landscape of the recreational park. As a result 182,000sqm Sports Park Stožice becomes one of the major focal points of Ljubljana's urban life, attracting people of different interests and generation both during the daytime and in the evenings.

The two storeys of the shopping centre and the interior car park fill the 12-metre deep disused gravel pit. The park that covers the roof of the shopping centre continues the natural landscape across the northern section of the outer ring road with the green urban space all the way to the city centre. The entire newly-built premises are integrated into the site, emphasising the horizontal, planar character of the open space.

The recreational park on the roof of the shopping centre is an artificial technical landscape composed of recognisable micro-ambients that withstand the pressure of the crowd before major sporting events and still offer pleasure and comfort to an afternoon stroller, a skateboarder, or children on the playground. The plateau of the park is pierced by vertical connections of accesses from the lower car parks, ventilation shafts, and light wells belonging to the shopping centre. The big central atrium with its pavilions represent the main access point to the shopping centre's two floors.

The football stadium for 16.000 spectators is laid out under the plateau of the park. As a structure, it's therefore 'sunk' into the park. Only the roof over the stands rises above the plane of the park as a monolithic crater.

The rest of the roof of the stadium on the west, north, and south side represents a green, partially accessible continuation of the park's plane. The plane is pierced by four flights of stairs that provide access and lead to the stadium's concourse. Towards the east side of the stadium, the park's plateau gradually descends for 6m down to the eastern platform. Seen from this point, the stadium reveals itself as an open building.

Over the concourse and the stands stretches a 4x4m grid concrete roof. The grid of the roof determinates the 'crater' of the stadium and emphasises the sensation of the interior. The stands descend downwards from the concourse and surround the football pitch, which enables the spectators to be very near to the action, yet still be covered with the roof.

The sports hall for 12,000 spectators is located in the north-western part of the park. The four levels of concourses and the lower, VIP, and upper stands are covered by a shell-shaped dome. The park's plateau, the edge of the shell scallops and opens towards the interior. The ridges continue all the way to the top, where the facade meets the dome. This outlines the shape of the hall, a shell that opens towards the perimeter with large crescent openings overlooking the park. Along the entire perimeter, there is a canopy encircling the hall, acting as a derivative to the scalloped shell. Like the stadium, the entire shell of the hall is also finished in exterior cladding that changes colour depending on the exterior conditions and viewing distance.

The sports hall is a partially recessed building. Its volume is determined by the required seating capacity and the size of the basketball and handball court, which are the two sports that the hall is primarily intended for. The position of the stands ensures maximum compactness of the interior space and allows the spectators to be as close to the action on the court as possible. VIP seating is situated between the lower and the upper stands.

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