Listed below are developments and attractions that have recently been proposed, but have yet to be developed!

A stunning new landmark observation tower designed by the team that created the London Eye could make its debut in Manchester.

The i-360 attraction, which at 429 feet is more than twice the height of the Big Wheel which towered above shops and offices in Exchange Square, are keen to bring it to the city.

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A £28m indoor slope for Trafford in Manchester

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In Manchester a consortium led by Kerzner International Limited and Manchester-based Ask Developments (and including partners Artisan and MANCAT) has been appointed by the Manchester City Council to develop £260 million casino and family entertainment complex at Sportcity, East Manchester

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THE world's first indoor extreme sports adventure centre could be built in Manchester.

The team behind the £60m Venture Xtreme project say it will combine 20 adventure sports under one roof if it gets the go ahead to open in 2006.


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The Reds have submitted detailed proposals to build a 20,000-seat ground
next to the M60 at Barton.

These include a casino hotel and a shopping mall, rent from which would help finance the running of the stadium.

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HORSERACING could return to Greater Manchester within four years - with a £100million scheme creating 500 jobs.

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Imperial War Museum North Extension.

BOSSES at the Imperial War Museum North are planning a huge extension. Daniel Libeskind will be asked to add a fourth "shard" on the so-called "shattered earth" building by the Manchester Ship Canal.

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Proposals have been announced for Quays Point in Salford, Manchester for four new landmark towers as part of the growing residential cluster there. The four tower plan on what has been dubbed the 'Dock 9 Site' consists of buildings of 52, 36, 36 and 25 floors.

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Frank Cohen Gallery, Spinningfields

Frank Cohen made his money from DIY retailing. Now based in Manchester, he claims to have the largest contemporary collection outside London, with 1000 works.

If you can think of anymore developments and attractions, Let me know and I will add them to the top of the thread!
Please do not include developments or attractions that we know will never get built! These include, Danile Libeskind's Holocaust Museum! Salford Aquarium! Salford SnoWorld! Etc, etc!

Don't jump the gun jrb, the i-360 is at present a piece of wild fantasy.

And the Quay Point scheme is not 'proposed'. It's in pre-planning and could be for some time!

would another horse track in the north west really be successful, manchester already has 2 of the worlds best racetracks already practically on its doorstep (haydock park which is literally just outside of greater manchester and aintree a little further out) plus chester race course isnt too far away either

Possibly the reason why it hasnt been re-opened for the past 42 years.

well itd be quite risky, but the developers could try and genrate more interest in horse racing it might work though could justas easily backfire

As nice as it'd be to have a race course, wouldn't the market for them up North become a wee bit saturated? What would we have, Aintree, Salford, York.... and I'm sure there're more I've forgotten about.

Personally I think we should sod it and get back in talks with CART about bringing a race over to Manc. That really would kick shit out of anything else.

Indy 500? That ed' be fantastic....

Must've been 13 months ago now since it was mentioned. I saw it on the front of some racing paper our old hall's shop was selling. Massive frontpage headline like, but I never got to properly see what it said. Tates (I think) found something plodding about on the net which was a bit more indepth than my incoherent ramblings but since the "talks with Council chiefs" line, nowt's been heard of (in mainstream media). Not a sausage.

The Salford Chairman was on GMR Rugby League Night last Thurs stating that the new stadium at Barton WILL go ahead. Its just a matter of fine tuning the application now to suit the Governments criteria.

Something that could be added to that list is Peel's plans for Manchester's second airport on the site which is currently Barton Aerodrome. They recently bought the site.

Looks like the champ car idea is dead. Cant find the original 'Motorsport News' article I posted but did find this with a quick google search. The champ car forums also appear to have gone dead with talk of Manchester

http://www.cart-racing.com/news/index.php?type=news&ID=3623

http://www.champcarfanatics.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-19668.html

Whats so special about these things that Marks Barfield are trying to peddle? Other people have been making them for years

http://www.ridetrade.com/r_products_towers.htm

Something that could be added to that list is Peel's plans for Manchester's second airport on the site which is currently Barton Aerodrome. They recently bought the site.


Think MAnchester needs a 2nd airport alright. And right next to the Reds stadium. :)

Peel aren't planning a second airport. They've told Barton to fuck off basically as the Salford Reds Stadium (or the race track) is to partially run through the aerodrome's site. My dad flies at Barton regularly, he says Peel are being right bastards with Barton. No second airport will be built.

Re the i-360 attraction. Doesn't Manchester need something to make it stand out? Something that instantly springs to mind when you think of the place? How many cities have got a CBD office cluster with an observation tower stuck in the middle? Sydney, Vancouver, Seattle, Toronto, Berlin and probably Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy for all I know......etc......the list is endless.

A couple of arches like the one in St Louis would be good, side by side to signify the letter M, but of course Ronald McDonald got there first.

I still want to see the (Vector) Victoria Tower built. I know someone who works for Network Rail at Picc, who reckons that land ownership of the shitty little car park at Victoria has caused all the problems with completing the redevelopment. Just goes to show how the proper private sector do all the good stuff, and govt controlled outfits like Network Rail and Metrolink give us under-resourced shit and let everything fester. IMO

Re the i-360 attraction. Doesn't Manchester need something to make it stand out? Something that instantly springs to mind when you think of the place? How many cities have got a CBD office cluster with an observation tower stuck in the middle? Sydney, Vancouver, Seattle, Toronto, Berlin and probably Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy for all I know......etc......the list is endless.


No, observation towers look like cack. I'd rather have a genuine building half the height than something like that thing in Seattle.

Vector Arena Tower. Aaaaah.

I can't see how an observation tower could pay its way. It surely is not sensible economics unless you need a tower anyway for something else.

No, observation towers look like cack. I'd rather have a genuine building half the height than something like that thing in Seattle.

That was what I was implying. I wouldn't complain if the thing was built, and yes I probably reckon it might pay its way in a city like Manchester, which has a huge number of visitors passing through (and if the current rate of development continues, a whole load more)

We need something really unique, right bang in the middle of town. Has anyone ever seen the crystal cathedral in Garden Grove/Anahein, CA? Summat like that.

Crystal Cathedral? Looks nice.

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Looks a bit Wizard of Oz!

Hows about Steve Penk's 'Walk of Fame'. Deansgate lined with named paved stars such as Gary Barlow and Terry Christian.

Crystal Cathedral? Looks nice.

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I think the fella who runs it, Robert Schuller is a wizard as well.

The Crystal cathedral is a bit wizard of oz, but when you drive past it on the Garden Grove freeway, it's fuckin amazing! The number of times I nearly slammed the car into stationary traffic

The obvious, and most important deveopment that has not happened yet is obviously phase 3.

Ha! Nobody's mentioned phase 3. I think we're all assuming it's going to happen anyway (minus Wyth hospital).

I mean, they can't prepare all the routes, and then provide admittedly stunning things like the Central Park interchange, and then not build it.........can they?

Jong - we'll know a lot more by Jan 06 - but I'm v confident.

Regards the Reds proposed stadium http://www.salford.gov.uk/council/pressreleases/pressrelease.htm?id=53212

Jong - we'll know a lot more by Jan 06 - but I'm v confident.

This drives me crazy. Here we are in Britain 2005, economy booming, practically full employment, the private sector doing amazing things with our cities, immigrants flooding in to take the work we won't do (!), evrybody's happy.

And then.......

Then What?

And then we have to wait for a really crucial bit of infrastructure, after years and years of governmental wrangling. First they announce there's funding for a big bang, then there isn't, or there may be if costs don't escalate, then we can again, then maybe, then they don't know, then it goes quiet again until the MEN get on the case.

I'm commenting on the fact that nobody actually knows for sure whether the funding will be there. Still.

Jongeman - we know that we have £520m, however, we also know that will not buy 2 off the lines.
I expect that work will start on the Rochdale line in 2007.

During this time funding will be worked on, and I hear people are confident that Ashton will start in 2008.

Should money become available through the Transport initiative fund (as expected) then the work on airport could (should) start late 2008 / early 2009.

Metrolink, thanks for those dates. Do you not agree that that's really sad?

GMPTE and Metrolink have already kept to their part of the bargain. They've already done the planning, groundworks, engineering and everything else except tracks, stations, trams and passengers.

It's mid 2005 now, and by the timetable you've given, nothing more will happen until 2007. The DTLR have fucked this up soooo badly. They've set the limit at 520 million, knowing damn well that the final cost would exceed this (it always does mate) and now they've changed their minds and decided that Crossrail and pre-Olympics projects must take higher priority. IMO

Jongeman - very very simplistic to blame this on London bias - there are many things that have cused this - rising costs, DfT going cool on light rail etc.

I just think ourselves lucky that we have the £520m, Leeds, Liverpool, Portsmouth (even Nottingham) seem to be stuck with no funding whatsoever for their plans.

Think if I have learnt one thing from the last 5 years of this, it is to be patient, don't expect anything too soon, just wait and you'll be plesantly surprised.

Metrolink: What's happening on January 2006? Is there anything else coming up which will be a definite positive rather than mere words? I've been thinking that the DTLR are deliberately stalling because they have no intention of coming good, and the money has already been diverted to "World City" London and the Olympics. But I really would like to be wrong about this.

Wrong thread sorry. I'll read everything on the Metrolink thread.

Jongeman - very very simplistic to blame this on London bias
Yeah I know, but it kind of suits my purposes...... :)

There is a London bias in one respect, and that is the belief that a successful and wealthy London will fuel a successful and wealthy rest-of-UK. This is true to a certain extent, but it's also really inadequate and very short-sighted.

There's almost been a blank cheque for building the Channel Tunnel Rail Link, and this is the scheme which the Confed. of British Industry (I think) said is of 'limited' economic benefit.

We don't need fast trains from London to the continent, but as I've said before, they're very very sexy. A tram through Failsworth isn't.

Dont forget the East-West rail link in London; Cost £10 billion, for one line going from east to west london, Like the fuckin tube isnt good enough and comprehensive enough, still no stopping them now they have the Olympics..

You've just hit the nail on the head. 10 billion for Crossrail?? I knew that figure had been earmarked, but fuck me.

Just so someone from Reading can get to work in Canary Wharf or Ilford ten minutes faster.....?? Where's the benefit in that? For 10 billion quid, there is no benefit.

Each couple of stations on the Jubilee Line extension probably cost the same as the whole of Metrolink phase 3.

Metrolink. I don't know what your connection (if any) to metrolink is. I appreciate your replies, and your honesty, but surely you must know that we (as Mancunians) are in the process of being screwed...........???

There isn't a lot you can say to that, is there?

(post severely edited because I was pissed when I wrote it!)

Super-casino back on track

RESULT: But is it worth the gamble?MANCHESTER'S plans for a "super- casino" are back on track after a report supported its bid over one from Blackpool.

A £50,000 study commissioned by the city council has supported their argument that a planned Las Vegas-style resort in east Manchester is the only realistic alternative to London.

The move comes after the crushing blow delivered by the North West Regional Assembly, which backed Blackpool as its preferred site for a super-casino.

The council study, drawn up by consultants Europe Economics, said the Manchester proposal was "highly competitive".

The consultants claimed the NWRA had failed to take into account how well a north west casino would fare against competing locations in Britain - including London.

The government originally said it was prepared to allow as many "super-casinos" - with unlimited-jackpot slot machines - as the market demanded. Under pressure from anti-gambling groups, they cut that number first to eight and eventually to just one pilot scheme.

An independent panel has been appointed to recommend the location. Its decision is not expected until December, but Blackpool is the favourite.

Scrapped

The plan for east Manchester includes a £265m investment on a casino, housing and a range of leisure facilities. Developers Kerzner International have made it clear that without the casino the whole plan would be scrapped.

Tom Russell, chief executive of the council-owned regeneration company New East Manchester, said: "The potential benefits of this scheme to east Manchester and the city are much greater than any other possible type of development on the Sportcity site."

The Liberal Democrats described the decision to commission the new report as a waste of taxpayers' money.

Their finance spokesman Marc Ramsbottom said: "These payments are wasteful. This is proof that if you pay consultants enough money, they will tell you what you want to hear."

Deputy council leader Jim Battle said £50,000 was a "very sensible" investment to try to secure a development that would create 1,500 jobs.

"It would be foolish for the council to walk away from this opportunity and it was worthwhile spending the extra money," he said.

No no no lads what Manchester realy needs is a world class THEME PARK! think about how far and w2ide ppl come from to go to alton towers, an its not even that great, they shud build it in heaton park or even on th land between vie and exchange quay tho thatd be a tad expensive.... but a theme park realy is a nessecity. a zoo would be a quality attraction to and a sealife centre.

It should go to Blackpool first. Manchester really doesn't need it! Fucking gimmick!

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The government originally said it was prepared to allow as many "super-casinos" - with unlimited-jackpot slot machines - as the market demanded. Under pressure from anti-gambling groups, they cut that number first to eight and eventually to just one pilot scheme.

Now I'm not and never have been a gambler, never been in a bookies in my life never mind a casino, but its amazing how much influence these pressure groups have in this country, if someone wants to throw their money away in a casino then surely that should be their choice? Its madness in this country when we get these "pressure groups" (no doubt made up of various anoraked church leaders and others with too much time on their hands) having a say in how the rest of us spend our money and have a good time. WTF has it got to do with them? :bash:

No no no lads what Manchester realy needs is a world class THEME PARK! think about how far and w2ide ppl come from to go to alton towers, an its not even that great, they shud build it in heaton park or even on th land between vie and exchange quay tho thatd be a tad expensive.... but a theme park realy is a nessecity. a zoo would be a quality attraction to and a sealife centre.

Sealife centres tend to be near the coast for logistical reasons - try shipping a Dolphin down the M62!

Otherwise this is a fantastic idea - and Ponoma seems like a good location too, just within walking distance of the centre. We need something like this to bring more tourists in.

Sealife centres tend to be near the coast for logistical reasons - try shipping a Dolphin down the M62!

Otherwise this is a fantastic idea - and Ponoma seems like a good location too, just within walking distance of the centre. We need something like this to bring more tourists in.

Salford Council recently shelved an idea about building a sealife centre as an attraction.

They have a sealife centre place in the middle of London on the river front I dont see why Manchester couldnt do the same in Salford Quays.

They have a sealife centre place in the middle of London on the river front I dont see why Manchester couldnt do the same in Salford Quays.

Never thought of that! Next to the IWM perhaps?

There's a sealife centre thingy in Birmingham - that's pretty far from the sea!!

One in Salford, near to Manchester city centre, would be a good idea.

Would it be viable? There's one just down the road in Ellesmere Port, and there is The Deep in Hull, which isn't a million miles away either.

Thinking on, I'd prefer a Greater Manchester Maritime Museum on the Quays, exploring the region's maritime heritage combined with a history of the building/planning/useage of the Ship Canal.

Its a good idea. Either on SQ or the former Boddingtons brewery.

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The government originally said it was prepared to allow as many "super-casinos" - with unlimited-jackpot slot machines - as the market demanded. Under pressure from anti-gambling groups, they cut that number first to eight and eventually to just one pilot scheme.

Now I'm not and never have been a gambler, never been in a bookies in my life never mind a casino, but its amazing how much influence these pressure groups have in this country, if someone wants to throw their money away in a casino then surely that should be their choice? Its madness in this country when we get these "pressure groups" (no doubt made up of various anoraked church leaders and others with too much time on their hands) having a say in how the rest of us spend our money and have a good time. WTF has it got to do with them? :bash:
Yeh, you never hear the anti-gambling lobby ranting against the state sponsored lotteries where you have a better chance of being struck by lightening twice before breakfast than you have of winning.
At least with organized casinos the punters has 49+% odds in their favour.

Also part of the huge tax revenues gleaned from gaming can be allotted to help people with gambling problems. Compare this to the way it is now, where gambling is quite prolific underground with no help for the 'compulsive' gamblers and not one red cent going into the national coffers. Under the present system the punter in large arrears can look forward to broken legs or worse.

You must wonder if these 'do-gooder-anti-gambling' groups are in the pockets of the underworld who will do anything to preserve the status quo.

Its a good idea. Either on SQ or the former Boddingtons brewery.
Boddingtons brewery is too far away from the docks for a maritime 'ship-canal' museum. Unless of course it was themed on the copious amounts of the bowel-loosening amber nectar consumed by merchant-seamen....

didnt think Manchester had that much of a Maritime heritage?? inland and all that or did I miss something? and dont say the Ship Canal, it doesn't really qualify as Maritime

didnt think Manchester had that much of a Maritime heritage?? inland and all that or did I miss something? and dont say the Ship Canal, it doesn't really qualify as Maritime
It's maritime 'heritage' may only go back just over a century but it's still quite a feat. When the canal opened most of the ships still had sails on them! It became one of the busiest ports in the country, peaking in the early 70's when containerization killed it (and many other) ports. Not bad for a city 35 miles from the coast.
Whether it's limited time-frame merits a dedicated museum is doubtful, but there should be at least some reference to it's history at some venue at the quays.
Btw, the canal is still functioning to a degree as a linear port owned by Peel Holdings, a Manchester firm who also owns Liverpool Airport, Liverpool Docks and the Trafford Centre. They still have a vision and a plan for the owld cut yet...'the big ship sails on the ally ally oh'....

Denmark have their Tivoli Gardens, Vienna their Prater (and we had Belle Vue before it was allowed to die thanks to Trust House Forte). Both are wonderful destinations in the heart of the city which combine rides, cafes and other traditional attractions in a green setting and which function for most of the year. The only problem with having one in Manc is what to do to stop all the scummy Manc scrotes and urchins ruining it.

I want a mega casino resort hotel. And I want it now. Fuck Blackpool, and fuck the North West Regional Assembly who no fucker voted for anyhow.

http://travelwithkids.about.com/library/graphics/atlantis/atlextaarch.jpg

No no no lads what Manchester realy needs is a world class THEME PARK! think about how far and w2ide ppl come from to go to alton towers, an its not even that great, they shud build it in heaton park or even on th land between vie and exchange quay tho thatd be a tad expensive.... but a theme park realy is a nessecity. a zoo would be a quality attraction to and a sealife centre.


Theme Park on Pomona would be a winner methinks.
Sealife Centre? When was the last time you went to one?...exactly.
They are so boring.. :runaway: and zoos? don't be daft they're closing all over the place mainly 'cos they're crap.
Alton Towers plus in a big city - ....yes

Was looking through some old threads (avoiding work) and came across this:


THE world's first indoor extreme sports adventure centre could be built in Manchester.

The team behind the £60m Venture Xtreme project say it will combine 20 adventure sports under one roof if it gets the go ahead to open in 2006.


http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/728.$plit/C_17_Articles_115217_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg


Never heard of it before, I'm guessing it faded away into the midsts?

I think it's still bubbling under the surface, someone I know was working on plans for something which sounded VERY similar.