Interesting portfolio.

http://www.scarboroughgroup.com/

There may be but access is fenced off, or supposed to be. There is a gap in the fence under the arches, which I went through. I noticed a set of steps going down but I didn't venture down them. There is a lot of 'stuff' under the arches and it looks like people have been sleeping rough there. Should be okay if the whole place gets developed and there's lots of people about but it looks a bit dodgy at the moment. I didn't linger.

Just had a thought - the steps may be for boaters to access the locks.

will be very handy that if you can get under trinity way unrestricted.

Think this plot has been recently advertised, going by the date on the spec PDF. Affected by the curve this one?

http://property.joneslanglasalle.co.uk/property-search/property-details.aspx?t=c&id=jll27703

http://i40.tinypic.com/szbm2q.jpg

There is a new sign up aswel.

I still cannot quite visualise how the Ordsall Curve is going to fit in and whether there will be any need to slew the existing track from Salford Crescent to Ordsall Jubction slightly north to permit a reasonable north west to south curve to be put in place. Will the as yet undesigned elements of the Northern Hub here have an impact on any potential developer who might find fhimself subject to planning blight if not compulsory purchase if part of the plot is needed - Is this plot really saleable?

I still cannot quite visualise how the Ordsall Curve is going to fit in and whether there will be any need to slew the existing track from Salford Crescent to Ordsall Jubction slightly north to permit a reasonable north west to south curve to be put in place. Will the as yet undesigned elements of the Northern Hub here have an impact on any potential developer who might find fhimself subject to planning blight if not compulsory purchase if part of the plot is needed - Is this plot really saleable?

the curve will cross trinity way and move away from middlewood wont it?

the curve will cross trinity way and move away from middlewood wont it?

Yes - we all know the general line from the recent consultation documents but
it still looks like a very tight and hence low speed,and if check railed, noisy and expensive to maintain curve. I await the final drawings with interest.

Scarborough Developments by Salford site

17 February 2012

By Sarah Stewart

Scarborough Development Group has purchased the Middlewood Locks site in Salford.

Scarborough Developments, a subsidiary of Scarborough Group, is thought to have paid £10m for the 21 acre brown field site which comes with extensive planning consent for 2.6m of mixed use development. The planning consent for the site expires in 2014.

The site was purchased through administrators, Grant Thornton when Valley and Vale Properties collapsed last year.

Scarborough Development Group managing director Mark Jackson said: "We will be re-evaluating the plans in light of the current market and intend to present the best possible scheme for Salford."

The purchase of the site was funded by a £45.5m facilities agreement with Santander.

http://www.propertyweek.com/news/news-by-region/scarborough-developments-by-salford-site/5032205.article

http://www.propertyweek.com/news/news-by-region/scarborough-developments-by-salford-site/5032205.article

Still scope for compulsory purchase under the TWA if the chord requires any land take here. If they are sitting on the HS2 site they will have made a good punt. Santander have rolled some or all of the debt owed by the original borrower on to Scarborough so at this stage it is mostly a book rather than a substantial cash transaction. See sale advice detail here:
http://www.uklandforsale.org/England/LandForSale/NorthWest/Manchester
Reasonably quick turn round on this - good for the bank's balance sheet.

Scarborough snaps up 'snow dome' site

February 21, 2012

The site of Salford's ill-fated snow dome has been sold to a Yorkshire developer for around £10m.

The Middlewood Locks site has been bought by Scarborough Development Group. The site has a long and tangled history of failed projects, including a £60m snow dome.

It currently has planning permission for 2.6m sq ft of new development and is regarded as one of the most promising sites in the north west. Scarborough Development Group, controlled by Yorkshire entrepreneur Kevin McCabe, is now expected to re-examine plans for the site. Its future could be linked to the adjoining ITV studios site at Quay Street, Manchester.

The future of the 21-acre Middlewood site has been in doubt since Spanish-owned bank Santander forced the former landlord, Valley and Vale Properties, into administration in 2010.

Mark Jackson, managing director at Scarborough, said: "We are entering into a programme of consultation with the council and local community to bring the project forward.

"Whilst the site has planning consent for an extensive mixed-use development, we will be re-evaluating the plans in light of the current market."

The £60m snow dome plans were proposed in 1999, but abandoned in 2002 in favour of a £300m 'urban village'. That grew in value to £600m as the boom inflated prices, but the Stockport-based developer collapsed in 2010, owing £32m.

? The owner of Salford's Lowry Outlet Mall has given a cool response to suggestions that property tycoon John Whittaker is interested in buying it.

Whittaker, founder of Peel Holdings and the creator of The Trafford Centre, has reportedly expressed an interest in the 180,000 sq ft shopping centre, which is opposite Peel's MediaCityUK development.

However, Alderley Edge-based Orbit Developments, which owns the Lowry, has reacted with little enthusiasm to interest in its successful site, which attracted 4.7m visitors in 2011, with sales up seven per cent.

In a statement, Tony Jones, managing director of Orbit, said the firm has had numerous approaches in the past and that its chairman Peter Jones knows Mr Whittaker. Property insiders suggest Orbit would be unwilling to sell unless Peel offers a premium price.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/business/commercial_property/s/1485973_scarborough-snaps-up-snow-dome-site

Blimey, I remember Snodome!

http://www.natives.co.uk/news/1100/salford.jpg

There are currently numerous cabins and workmen set up on the site... a huge area has already been dug up by a digger and it is still digging as i type this...

lots of work seems to be going on on the site... shall take some pics when i get chance...

Sounds interesting considering they wanted to re-evaluate the plans. Can you see what company is doing the work?

^^

What're the current plans?

^^

What're the current plans?

Flats, offices, retail, leisure.

Flats, offices, retail, leisure.

... big massive 200m tower.

Okay cool I get it ;)

^^ the highest it could've gone under what was outline approved in 2007 seems to be 135m/32 storey.


Seriously, where do you even start with an area this big.

Looking at the history of that Scarborough division, Scarborough Development Group, seems it was set up in 2010 with a focus on retail developments, specifically foodstores. But with the proximity to Regent Retail Park???

http://www.europe-re.com/system/main.php?pageid=2616&articleid=15753

Scarborough Development Group Ltd is the property development arm of Scarborough Group and focuses predominantly on the food store sector, an area which has proved to be defensive throughout the period of economic downturn.

http://www.scarboroughgroup.com/real-estate.html

If this sale went through in August last year, they've had 6 months to work plans up.


Any pics? :) (even if it is just dirt being moved around)

Oh god please don't let it become a retail park! :ohno:

Looking at the 'past projects' section of their website there aren't that many supermarkets, just the odd retail park but mostly new build offices. Some residential and sone warehousing too. No clear indication of what may end up there if you ask me.

I think we need to wait, 5-10 years or so. Until we're out of the recession, and back in the boom again. When mass-housing and mass-construction is needed and this site can be filled with something worthwhile and sustainable. Something which generates a lot of jobs and a lot of footfall (both for the site itself and for neighbouring Chapel St

Looking at the 'past projects' section of their website there aren't that many supermarkets, just the odd retail park but mostly new build offices. Some residential and sone warehousing too. No clear indication of what may end up there if you ask me.

That main website is for the entire group though, so the past projects cover various arms of the business. Just looking at the list of sites they picked up in 2010, when they formed the sub-venture, mixed use developments centred around food stores. Probably diversified since then.

But yes, only guessing at the moment as to the direction, what development would be feasible short-term?

Mark Jackson, managing director at Scarborough, said: "We are entering into a programme of consultation with the council and local community to bring the project forward.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/business/commercial_property/s/1485973_scarborough-snaps-up-snow-dome-site

Anyone locally been consulted yet?

Website for Middlewood Locks has been updated now that Scarborough have been confirmed as the buyer, although nothing of any interest on there...

http://www.middlewood-locks.com/

Would make an amazing park. Only just realised this.

That main website is for the entire group though, so the past projects cover various arms of the business. Just looking at the list of sites they picked up in 2010, when they formed the sub-venture, mixed use developments centred around food stores. Probably diversified since then.

But yes, only guessing at the moment as to the direction, what development would be feasible short-term?



Anyone locally been consulted yet?

Yes, in a way. Scarborough came in force to talk to a local forum last week. All we usual suspects were there so we could hear what they had to say. Interesting chat from their lead person, who has worked in loads of places including Úrban Splash and various local authorities so knew how to handle us.

Interestingly, they don't have a plan!

It's being looked at as a multi-year investment and they are going to (I loosely quote) "keep the architects in a box...get the boffins to look at the economy of Salford...work up what is viable...then let the architects out to play with their crayons...come out to consult and listen to comments...test the ideas against the market"

Other than that, nothing for now, apart from they are keen to demolish the old Taylor Wimpey (Fusion) sales office asap (within weeks) in order to clear the site and they will be paying British Waterways a reasonable sum each year to keep the canal maintained.

I keep seeing orange diggers on site but could be anything.

Birse seem to be building a new access road or footpath from Oldfield Road down to the top bit of the canal. No idea why.

Bit more info about the Snodome for those like me who weren't around at the time:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010223214801/http://www.snoworld.co.uk/menu/menu.htm

Scarborough to revisit Middlewood consent

23 Apr 2012, 16:24

Scarborough Development Group has demolished a former sales building for a housing scheme at Middlewood Locks in Salford after complaints about vandalism and safety concerns from the local community.

The two-storey building on Middlewood Street was built by Taylor Wimpey as a sales office for its Fusion development but the second phase was not developed and the office became derelict.

Scarborough Development Group, the property development arm of Scarborough Group, acquired the 21-acre Middlewood Locks site in Salford from Valley and Vale Properties, acting through its administrators Grant Thornton, in February 2012. Following consultation with the planning team at Salford City Council and with local residents, Scarborough Group took the decision to demolish the building as soon as planning permission was granted.

Lee Savage, development director of Scarborough, said: "Since acquiring the site we've been consulting with the local community and the council and the vandalism of the site office was causing concern so we worked immediately to get it demolished.

"We'll continue the programme of consultation to bring the whole site forward. Whilst the site has planning consent for an extensive mixed-use development, we will be re-evaluating the plans in light of the current market and intend to present the best possible scheme for Salford."

Middlewood Locks has existing outline planning consent for a 2.6m sq ft of mixed-use development to include residential, commercial, retail and leisure facilities.

Ross Spanner, neighbourhood manager of Salford City Council, added: "We are pleased that this empty building has been demolished. Local residents have been concerned that it was attracting crime and anti-social behaviour. We look forward to working with the Scarborough Group in developing options for the Middlewood Locks site."

http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/11492-scarborough-to-revisit-middlewood-consent.html

Further details regarding consultation dates from Salford Online:

Local people will have the chance to share their views at the following events:

· 14th June Angel Centre – The Community Café 11:30am until 2:30pm

· 15th June at St. Philips CoE Primary School 09.00am until 10am, and then 2:30pm until 3:30pm

· 17th June at St. Philips Church 10:45am until 11.45am

http://www.salfordonline.com/localnews_page/35587-public_consultation_set_to_take_place_in_ordsall.html

Further articles from today in PlaceNW and MEN, nothing really new though:

http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/11557-middlewood-locks-proposals-up-for-discussion.html

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/business/s/1492520_scarborough-development-group-demolishes-two-storey-middlewood-locks-building-

Not 100% but the works currently being carried out by Birse might be in relation to the new sub-station. This is required for the electrification of Manchester - Liverpool/Blackpool . Supposed to be somewhere around there anyway :)